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Overlord
Overlord
Overlord
Overlord
Overlord
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>>152306555
Why are you making a new thread when the translations aren't gonna be up for another 10 hours?
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Has there been an announcement for the new volume?
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>>152306652
>translations
Wait, unironically what's supposed to be out? Drama CD?
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>>152306555
>Overlord
>Overlord
>Overlord
>Overlord
>Overlord
>>152306956
>;-]
Cancer alert. Why is this allowed?
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>>152307759
Cancer huh?
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Is there any news on the movies?
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>>152307759
>why is this allowed
Don't even start, you're not going to get anywhere. These threads are good until the cancer rises.
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>>152307849
>until the cancer rises.
So this thread should already be bad, right?
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>>152307658

Guess some Anon compile the translations and adding it to the CD drama.
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More Beholder Mage Girl when
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>>152308750

Go to the usual place. BMGAnon posts updates there.

Asking here will not get you answers.
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>>152308832
BMG is hiatus though, and he's been around in the thread lately
Also is Nigel BMGanon or something?
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>>152308867

Don't think Nigel is BMGAnon. He could be one of Nigel's body double. To throw FBI-kun off his game
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I want Shalltear as my sex slave
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Does anyone have the ronnie edit of "I have no idea what I'm doing right" with ainz?
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>>152309148
This picture is garbage
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Whoah these threads ares still going on? Isnt the next book in more than a month?
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>>152309764
They got deleted accused of being generals

Missed you, entomafag. Which number of entoma pics are you right now? Last time I checked you was in 80 or something
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>>152309578
you are garbage
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>>152309920
I know ;_;
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>>152309764
>in more than a month
It's in like nine months.
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>>152309148
Get in line.
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>>152308832
>>152308867
>>152308962
It's coming along, but I have to balance it with reTLing the rest of the volumes.
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>>152310697
>BMGanon is literally fucking Nigel
Holy fucking shit
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>>152310697

Damnit Nigel! How you find time! I can't find enough time to restart my Baby Ported to Nazarick fic.
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>>152309798
Well. I still need to sort. it´s a pain. But its over 100 I´m sure.

Sadly almost no new art http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%83%9E

>>152309578
I know. You gotta have feet to induce the hurt real good. Pic related.
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>>152311806
I have some Entomas I bet you don't
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There wont be more adventures with Momon?
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>>152306555
S2 fucking never.
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Does anyone have the MEGA
Not the reddit one
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>>152313010
reddit has their own mega ?
nice to know i guess
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>>152313054
fuck off memelord I've been looking for the lost bookmark forever
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>>152312251
I want to see Ainz go with momon to new lands, but Ainz disguise himself AGAIN. As a propor mage this time maybe.

>>152313010
You can´t have mine. I got it from my senpai it´s a treasured gift.

>>152312078
No bully, you of all people should know.

>>152312577
good riddance and good numbers.
Hope movie catches some more of 2nd book.
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>>152313237
Stay there then?
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>>152313431
But FBI-Kun didn´t you come from there?

stop this meme
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>>152313431
I can't stay somewhere i don't go to, sorry pal
atleast you tried
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>>152309148
but anon you are the sex slave
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No seriously, does anyone have the MEGA? I lost the address when I upgraded my computer.
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>>152313613

Even if I have it, I can't post here. Even in spoilers.

Threads were nuked and Anons banned for doing it.

Just Ask FightDaPowerAnon.

No wait he was banned.
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>new pleiades ova screend along with the movie
>pleiades novel with 8 color pages movie attendance gift

Nice and we should get even more stuff with the BD releases.
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>>152313613
overlrod in /a/ archive. It´s way back but easy to find with overlord and mega key words. You should know this by now fbikun?

>>152313679
I though you were dead? want to have sometea?___
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>>152312577
At least you're getting novels, it's almost two fucking years since the last update for Log Horizon.
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>>152313679
> aib
> bans for pirate content
where did we go wrong
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>>152313758
That's because Yen Jews killed all interest.
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>>152313869
Around the time mods started banning loli threads.
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>>152311806
I found a new entoma pic for you anon.
spoilered because its nude
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>>152313756
#3 never dies. I am always posting.
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>>152313237
Yeah. They have 'high quality' versions too, which I think means full-size scans.
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>>152313883
>loli threads banned

Wait a minute. Maybe we should stop posting pics of Shalltear, CZ and Entoma.
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>>152313679
>Threads were nuked and Anons banned for doing it.

This website is starting to suck serious shit.
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>>152314064
how about no?
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>>152314144
>le global rule 8 faec
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>>152314064
furniture doesnt have an age of consent

neither do toasters.

or insects.
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>>152314222
We both know that the rules are only enforced if the mods feel like it. They're basically excuses, not rules.
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>>152314366
That was the original intention of the rules anyway, to have a rule there so you're not surprised when you're banned. That being said GR8 is probably the most enforced besides the CP one and GR15.
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I want to deito the meido known as Lupusregeino Beido.
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>>152313873
>Yen Jews killed all interest
Oh god there is yen press in overlord already will it have the same fate as log horizon?
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>>152314644
Nigel is based and continues translating.
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>>152314660
God bless his soul
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>>152314745
fucking retarded shit
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Are there any light novels/anime/manga like overlord?

Like op (or not op) mc building his own kingdom/army?
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>>152314828
> dangeon defence
> release that witch
> Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki
> Summoned Slaughterer
> Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
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>>152315012
Dungeon Defense started out good but is just too fucking edgy, and I do mean edgy, there's grimdark for literally zero purpose.
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>>152315192
For zero purpose? I've always though Dungeon Defense did edge rather well, as it's always in service of either the plot or character development.
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>>152314960
I want the bug to step on me
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>>152315304
Really?
Firstly, his plans are nowhere near as genius tier as he thinks, even disregarding the fact that he has benefit of hindsight.
Secondly, the entire Lapis Lazuli arc left me feeling empty - it made no sense that the reason Lapis was empty was because 'muh revenge muh target', it would've made far more sense, considering all the flashbacks and 'you'll be like me' from his dad, for the MC to have realized that he had become what he hated the most - someone driven by love instead of logic - and that Lapis was repulsed by this change.
Thirdly, the entire concept of controlling his minions with fear simply doesn't add up. Fear only works within discipline and respect. That Datalian is a weak demon lord is common sense. He isn't using fear to his advantage, he's simply being a tyrant without offering a carrot and only using a stick.
Foruthly, all of the raiding villages and stuff simply served no purpose. There was simply no reason to do so, it didn't serve character development, it didn't move the plot forward, it simply was a show of 'look how edgy Datalian is'.
Fifthly, under normal circumstances someone like Paimon would have simply nuked Datalian. Politics loses meaning in the face of overwhelming power.
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>>152315364
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>>152315541
I get hard imagining getting my insides devoured by a giant crawling bug while I'm still alive, specially if it starts with my intestines and the crippling pain makes me shit and pee myself.
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>>152315599
I wonder just how strong healing magic is...we could arrange a happy farm type deal for you. cute bug girl eatting your guts every day sound like heaven to you?
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>>152315753
That would be a dream
Specially if she can lay eggs inside me that explode my insides as they hatch
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>>152315469
Well thought out.
In order to respond I'll need to re-read the earlier chapters.
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>>152315840
Yeah
I know I'm being pretty butthurt but it's what happens when I start something, get hooked with high expectations, and get let down
It's the same reason Evil God Average fags get angry at Teleporting at Random.
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>>152310697
Not needed a job must be awesome.
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>>152314064
>entoma a loli

I will not bring myself to that level of shame. I am a devout "medium" man. except when it comes to punnishment. It should always be as hardcore as possible. Nothing loose
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>>152316372
>he needs a job
Poorfag detected
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>>152316428
Must be awesome to have your mommy pay your bills
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>>152316373
>Giant Asian Hornet/Warrior Wasp vagoo

heard they're really friendly if they're alone and you have honey on your hand, they'll just crawl around and lick it off calmly..

Now dip your dick in honey and put it in it's hornet mouth
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>>152312577
Fucking madhouse.They love doing this kind of shit
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>>152316439
Flat chest is the best chest anyway

People who like big breasts are disgusting, the flatter the better. Nothing tops a flat chest with thin waist and slight wide hips.
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>>152316503
>needing a job to pay your bills
Again, poorfag detected.
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>>152309216
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>>152317520
Is Jircniv Rune Farlord El-Nix the most tragic character in Overlord?
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>>152313613
DesuDesuTalk
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>>152313758
>>152313873
Wait, wasn't author in jail for tax evasion?
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>>152315469
>his plans are nowhere near as genius tier as he thinks
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>>152317627
No
That probably killed a lot of interest too
The media went apeshit over it when it was already cleared up
This is what actually happened:

Japanese IRS: Faggot where are our taxes
Marmalade: What, I thought the studio did it?
Japanese IRS: No dumbass that's not how it works
Marmalade: Aw shit
Japanese IRS: Aw shit is right pay up fag
Marmalade: Ok here's my info here you go
Japanese IRS: Thanks. Don't let it happen again
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>>152317585
Not really, since it's self-imposed. If he learned to stop worrying and learn to love The Bone, he'd realize he's just multiplied both his dynasty and his nation's strength essentially overnight, along with Ainz being so very, very lonely that if Jirky decided to be friendly with him, he'd more or less shower him personally with magnificent gifts of the gods.

I mean, a single Death Knight is the power of a small country. Let's say that the well-trained and equipped Baharuth Empire's knights are around ten Death Knights just for the benefit of the doubt on their strength and training.

He could ask for some Death Knights as border guards or if he's brave enough, personal guards. He just needs to provide corpses for Ainz to get ONE, much less a bunch of dead prisoners.

Every single Death Knight he has is worth hundreds if not thousands of well-trained and powerful men due to how ridiculously power scales in the NW for powerful individual men/units.

Nigga has nowhere to go but up, but he's too busy thinking Papa Bones is spooky and thinking himself into ulcers.
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>>152316503
Unrelated passerby anon: you can have remote job and enough time to rot in your boredom three times over.
At least the man is doing some good in his free time.
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>>152317686
That's literally it though
Smart people writing smart characters, or at least people who know how smart people think writing smart characters, create plausible plans that seem geniunely intelligent but sometimes strikingly obvious in hindsight, because the breakthoughs of most geniuses are strikingly obvious in hindsight. They create an end situation and work backwards, adding details here and there.
Dumbasses just say BECAUSE I'M SMART LOOK AT ALL THIS RANDOM SHIT I KNOW LIKE A TRIVIA SHOW KING. They confuse intelligence with knowledge.
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>>152317761
>Not really, since it's self-imposed.
That's exactly why it's tragic.
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>>152317585
Yes.
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>>152317690
Oh, that's enlightening, thanks anon.
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>>152317835
I wonder how healing potions work on ulcers. They're not stress-induced, they're stress-aggravated. Jerky already has the H. pylori bacteria that cause them, so his healing potion-holicism fixes the pain temporarily and most likely any internal damage.
I'm wondering how healing magic affects bacterial infections? If Ainz gives Jerky a God's Blood healing potion as pocket lint, would his infection be permanently cured?
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>>152316858
Tell me anon, how do you pay yours?
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>>152318033
By working a job in the finance sector, did you think I'm not a poorfag?
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>>152318029
It can be purely somatic anon.
You can't heal shit that's in your head with HP potion.
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>>152318029
Healing pots don't usually work on diseases but there's spells that do.
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>>152318094
Child physician?
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>>152318112
>>152318029
>cure poison potion
>remove disease spell
Yeah, it's usually like that.
It's probably Divine Spell in NW\Yggdrasil too and Jircniv is at odds with Temples now.
Explains why his subordinate proposes him to go see the priests instead of chugging potions.
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>>152318239
In or out of your basement?
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>>152318346
Do you share your toys?
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>>152317761
>Implying any competent leader would leave the issue of national security to an extremely suspicious third party.
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>>152318454
It's about time for third frame anon.
Gotta accept the situation sooner or later.
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>>152318454
That third party is also god.

Regardless, after he proposed vassalization, he essentially threw in the towel. The Empire is going to get audited by Alfredo and Best Son inside and out and then a treaty of some sorts drawn up.
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>>152318454
>Implying any competent leader
>competent
THAT'S where your issue is. In hindsight, Jerky is just mediocre; it's the fact that everyone else in the NW is a feudalist retard that makes him look like a genius in comparison.
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>>152318499
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you sterilize your loli more than once?
To they like, grow back?
But really hygiene is important.
Though as physician you should know that sterilizing mucosa often will lead to serious negative consequences.
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>>152318564
>it's the fact that everyone else in the NW is a feudalist retard
You mean like how everyone else was in real life
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Beholders!
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>>152318734
>not him but
Well no, there were also warlords.
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>>152318850
>not gouging your central eye out for more magical dakka
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>>152318905
Yes, I actually d-don't have any b-basement whatsoever.
>autoclave
Why not just boiling water?
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>>152318881
Quagoa lad was obviously Genghis Khan in the making but in the face of god...
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>>152319039
Well I was only arguing about everyone being feudal retards IRL.
Not everyone.
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>>152319189
I never had it and now I'm afraid of coughing children.
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>>152318564
Like >>152318734 said, mediocre leader is great even in our world, with all the retards and everything. Hell I'm laugh my ass off if US has a case of stealth take over by Renner-tier Trump.
But enough of /pol/.
>>152317520
>>152317585
>>152317835
>>152317870
>>152318029
>Ainz visiting JUST
>Hair loss starting to become visible
>Populace already headcanoning that he made a deal with the ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶l̶ Ainz thus becoming undead/demon
>Of course rumor spread by yours truly Temple™
>Private meeting with Ainz in progress
>JUST is at SuperUlcer3 stage
>Temple™ hijacked the room with some basic rudimentary magic camera shit that both JUST and Ainz don't notice with intention of giving the populace the truth
>Shit is broadcasting all over capital, room guards charmed/MC-ed or some shit
>"JUST-dono are you not feeling well, you look ill"
>Some bullshit excuse about overworking that's received 50/50 by capital denizens but works 100% on Ainz
>"You should have told me about this earlier JUST-dono"
>"Nonono, I could never bother Ainz-dono about something so trivial I already have a solution for"
>Shows a potion or something
>"Ah I see"
>Ainz holds palm out towards JUST
>Shit.
>It's over.
>GG.
>I tried, I did my best.
>Lets hope he doesn't kill everyone.
>"[Detect Life Essence]"
>"Ah I see"
>"Maximize Magic: [Greater Heal]!"
>JUST 100% healed
>Even his age
>Now he's a baby
>Initiate Baby in Nazarick fanfic
YEEEEEEAH.
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>>152319400
>YEEEEEEAH.
No.
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>>152319400
>Even his age
In D&D, NOTHING can heal the ravages of age. Time truly devours everything in D&D unless you're a race unaffected by time like the Undead or someone with a divine rank.
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>>152319400
7/10
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>>152319400
>"Maximize Magic: [Greater Heal]!"
>InstaDeath + Necromancy specialist lich variant
Yeah, no.
At least use a wand.
6/10.
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>>152319505
Ainz doesn't give a crap about D&D rules.
And you can still go around that crap with Wish


>>152319474
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>>152319582
>And you can still go around that crap with Wish
You literally can't.
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>no mmo where you can build nazarick
>no mmo with cool heteromorphic character system
shape up developers
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>>152319552
>>152319577
Better than average, good enough for me.
>>152319596
Did they re-work time travel or something? I know it was still viable to go the route of
>Go to past
>Kidnap younger self
>Implant current self into younger self
>Redo when old
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>>152319725
>I once examined an 8 yo female child, her mom brought her because she had white vaginal discharge, it was semen.
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>>152319596
No, wish is literally becomes reality in NW.
You can do anything with ring unless WCI is involved.
>>152319725
>picrelated
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>>152319400
>Jircniv now a baby in Nazarick
>Ok, this is bad, I can't talk, where is this damn skeleton taking me
>What he heading me over to his maid?
>She is removing her top! Nice racks! She gonna feed me?
>Come to Daddy!! No, wait, what the hell? I'm being absorbed inside her
>NOOOOOoo!! Damn you skeleton!!
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>>152319771
>Daddy
Do I not know something about Solution?
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>>152319676
That's not really 'using wish', it's more like this weirdass loophole to cheat death, not cheat age - and if you keep doing that you'll get a literal horde of psychopomps on your ass.

>>152319764
>No, wish is literally becomes reality in NW.
No, Wish acts like what Wish actually is in D&D, 'anything goes as long as the DM feels like letting it slide and it doesn't go against the rules'. It still conforms to the rules.

>>152319771
Stop, the fanfiction is not as good as you think it is.
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>>152319771
>She's just cleaning him and giving him a massage
>Solution asks Ainz later if she can eat him with JUST still inside her hearing everything clearly
>Ainz short REEEEEE
>JUST is properly adjusted to monsters by time of adulthood and so is Empire since Ainz took up security
>Win
>>152319822
Thats Jircniv speaking
>>152319851
>Stop
Wasn't me that time.
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>>152318029
His ODing on healing potions to cure a perceived ulcer is probably what's causing it at that point in his life.
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>>152319851
>if you keep doing that you'll get a literal horde of psychopomps on your ass.
To be honest I'm not a really good or well versed D&D player, with crappy memory and all hell I didn't even notice one time that GM/DM used newest edition instead of 3.5.
>No, Wish acts like what Wish actually is in D&D
It's kinda different now, there is no DM and/so 'system'/reality now works on previously existing rules(fluff), so bar WCI interference Which I guess counts as DM/GM Wish is actually omnipotent spell.
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>>152319505
not with that attitude
One of the discussed methods to immortality in 3.5 was polymorphing yourself into a younger version of yourself and whether or not that would have problems.
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>>152319851
>It still conforms to the rules.
Source: your ass.
>Once the ripples of emotion faded away, Ainz realized that ‘Wish Upon A Star’ worked differently here than it did in Yggdrasil.
>When Ainz had first learned of Nfirea’s talent, he had idly wondered if he could steal it with ‘Wish Upon A Star’. Now, he realized that he could have done it.
>In this world, ‘Wish Upon a Star’ was a spell that would grant its caster’s wishes.
>Although it would still expend experience, ‘Wish Upon A Star’ was now a spell that could make the impossible possible.
>In addition, by sacrificing five levels — 500% of his experience, one could grant even more greater wishes.
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More botto when?
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>>152319596
What, did Wish not allow you to wish for immortality?
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Why is this specific isekai manga so popular? There are hundreds of them out there, and while the vast majority of them are shit, this one is by no means the best.
Is it the waifus?
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>>152320021
It has obvious problems, even with a permanency spell, since polymorphing yourself younger doesn't actually make you younger - your physical body has still existed for the same amount of time.

>>152320024
>literally how it works in D&D

>>152319989
True, but the problem is whether or not the age thing is part of the 'fluff'.

>>152320063
Nah it didn't
Ressurection, even True Resurrection, doesn't allow you to rez someone dead of 'old age' either.
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>>152320086
Which are the better?
Mushoku-change-MC-to-Isekai-Jesus-halfway-through-after-propagating-bullshit-polygamy?
Log-horizon->>152317686 ?
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What merch have you gotten to give praise to Ainz-sama and his loyal subjects?
Pic related.
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I am triggered by people using isekai as a genre. Nobody used the term a year ago and nothing really has changed since then.
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>>152320086
It's combination of everything is unique, as far as I've noticed.
>>152320104
>True, but the problem is whether or not the age thing is part of the 'fluff'.
But it is, as I've said there's no GM/DM to say whats allowed and whats s/he not going to allow, and Wish allows for anything to be possible, even immortality.

Hell you COULD stretch it into becoming undead skeleton with functional flesh of your old body covering you.
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>>152319851
>Stop, the fanfiction is not as good as you think it is

I wrote that, depending on which version you saw, there are 3

>>152319877
>JUST is properly adjusted to monsters by time of adulthood

Well that may not work since as a baby he gonna be:

>Sexually abused by Lupu
>Neglected by Narberal
>Entoma's "peek-a-boo" game
>Over "hugged" by CZ
>Yuri always keeping an eye on him at all times
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>>152320208
Eternal hide and seek is best end.
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>>152320195
Why does it trigger you? Why not use a name for stories that share a common basic premise?
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>>152320205
>But it is, as I've said there's no GM/DM to say whats allowed and whats s/he not going to allow.
The point of a DM was originally to be the representative of the world you're playing in anyway. The worldsystem itself technically makes the decision, the DM is just informing you.

>Wish allows for anything to be possible, even immortality.
Yeah it doesn't though.
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>>152320051
>botto

Uh? What is that?
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>>152320208
But it is going to work exactly because Ainz will hardcode order it, causing everybody to report anything others do in suspicious manner.
Basically everybody becomes screeching to Ainz that others are fucking up, causing Ainz to personally be the dad.
That or Sebas+Tsuare get to raise him since they can't have a child in this particular fanfiction.
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>>152320208
>Entoma's "peek-a-boo" game
Lost it.
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>>152320282
>The point of a DM was originally to be the representative of the world you're playing in anyway. The worldsystem itself technically makes the decision, the DM is just informing you.
Well thats the issue, DM is both the representative and the world itself, unless DM is running by the book adventure with preset guide then s/he's obviously going to eventually come up with a situation that rules don't cover, and going to have to wing it, and that's the hole that NW is experiencing.
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>>152320401
Except the rules cover everything. Just because it's not explicitly inside the rulebook doesn't mean it doesn't exist, if it didn't exist then the situation could never have arisen, the world would basically throw an exception and quit.
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>>152320266
I don't mind it used in a purely descriptive sense. But it just feels like another buzzword for /a/ to shitpost about 90% of the time
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>>152320178
Well it's obviously all subjective, but I would say that of the handful or so I've read, Log Horizon is definitely up there.
And for the OP-protagonist series I'd say Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken is a lot of fun, even if the only person doing the scanlations right now is absolutely garbage.

The MC in Overlord is just entirely unrelatable and all his decisions seem a bit contrived to seem extra "edgy" and "I'm-a-cool-undead-without-emotions". I don't know if that changes later in the LN, but I've only read the manga, so that's all I know.

But that's just my opinion. Still pretty happy about this genre getting more popular, there is definitely potential for some great series in the genre.
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>>152320442
>yfw Ainz dies by world having a BSOD due to a reality bug
kek
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>>152320442
>the world would basically throw an exception and quit.
I'm pretty sure we've seen NW complimenting Yggdrasil where it is lacking by pulling shit like filling NPC personality gaps with their creators quirks etc.
No DM = Wish does anything you want, limited only by volume of experience you're ready to sacrifice.
>>152320497
Tensei a shit after heroshit appears.
Log Horizon is 90% word and mc is obnoxiously Gary Stu.
>But that's just my opinion.
See?
Different tastes.
There's the answer to your original question.
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>>152320497
>but I've only read the manga
Ainz is super spoopy in the manga itself if you're read/watched everything else, otherwise it's just random "where's the edge coming from" moments.
Well that and people tend to forget that Ainz is above-divine tier undead and is Cthulhu scary due to having access to his PoV.
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>>152320561
>No DM = Wish does anything you want, limited only by volume of experience you're ready to sacrifice.
You fucking dumbass, the DM literally IS the fucking world. If the DM doesn't exist then neither does the worldsystem or the entire fucking world.
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>>152320086
It's power fantasy where everyone suck MC cock. Ainz is literally GOD and no one can even damage him. It's fun at beginning but then Ainz start bitching about his friends while killing and torture thousand innocent people. Especially it's become tedious later because all waifus are basically obedient dolls and all chapters either cock sucking or stomping. Good things - artist and author that actually played MMO/tablet games. Just don't take everything seriously and you enjoy fun
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>>152320612
It have no personality to decide what should and what shouldn't be allowed for Player to Wish.
Hence anything as long as you have XP.
How did you not understand it from this >>152320024 ?
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>>152320680
>it has no personality
Neither does a DM in theory. A DM creates the rules for his worldsystem, 'winging it' is when the player does something he didn't expect. In-world it's not literally the world winging it, the world is just saying yes or no based on preset rules (that the DM didn't think to make up but is now going to stick to). Are you stupid?
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>>152320746
>the world is just saying yes or no based on preset rules
>are you stupid
Are you?
Ainz explicitly said anything is possible with XP.
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>>152320630
>Just don't take everything seriously and you enjoy fun
This, just this, I can't emphasize this enough.
Overlord just hits a wierd "It's comfy but it's serious" spot for me.
It's like Dungeon Defense and Lazy Dungeon Master had a child.
Like DBZ Brolly since TFS just did that, He's so cool but he's so stupid.
Oh yeah >>152314828 , Lazy Dungeon Master is pretty comfy, It's that similar to Overlord, but if I had to describe it it would be Ainz building Nazarick from scratch whilst being comfy.
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>>152320832
>explicitly
Point out where. What he actually said was
>a spell that would grant wishes
>was now a spell that could make the impossible possible (which means shit all, since that's what magic is in the first place)
>even greater wishes for more experience (so obviously, the basic spell can't be omnipotent if you can get 'even greater wishes').
Fucking dumbass.
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>>152320919
>impossible possible
Means anything you twat.
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>>152320983
It doesn't though you faggot. If it meant "anything", how can you possibly get 'even greater wishes'? It's already sitting at infinity.
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>>152320919
>>152320983
>>152321015
Woah bros chill, try to keep things civilized here fellas
>how can you possibly get 'even greater wishes'?
Infinity+1, I guess?
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>>152321015
>If it meant "anything", how can you possibly get 'even greater wishes'?
Anything x 2!
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>>152321059
Infinity isn't a number in the real number set so you can't apply addition to it, and in the hyperreals addition doesn't work that way.
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>>152321089
It's an ordinal, however, and addition for ordinals works exactly in this way.
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>>152321089
>>152321174
>It's magic I ain't gotta explain shit.jpg
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Only Demi is assigned to the Holy Kingdom right? So Vol 12 is mostly going to be about him?
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>>152321217
Yes.
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>>152321174
>implying
You can't add "one" to an ordinal in the normal common sense way. ω+1 is just a "shifted" infinity.
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>>152321217
Probably going to be about him as much as the last time he used Jaldabaoth. I'm interested in how the Ainz dying lie is going to be used.
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>>152321217
How will he have won over the Holy Kingdom?
How much ROD OF THE INCUBUS comes into play?
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>>152321194
Oh, but I can explain shit.

See, we aren't adding 1 to infinity. We have a set of possible wishes, and we are adding one more element to this set. Or for every element of this set we are adding one more element, ala >>152321087 .

The cardinality of the new set will still sit at infinity.

>>152321307
ω+1 is an ordinal, larger than ω with 1. But here we're talking about cardinality of the set of the wishes, not about ordinal numbers. And that stays at aleph zero.
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>>152320264
>Eternal hide and seek is best end.

Till you fall to your death.

>>152320329

You do know how Entoma does that right?

>>152320419

Here in Singapore, we have no 4 leaf clover.

Damnit I am watching this, and imagining the hanging stuff are bugs and other stuff made by CZ and Entoma.
https://youtu.be/UuOjlw4RZ3U?t=43s
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>>152321448
ω+1 > ω but that doesn't matter, because as you said we're talking about the cardinality. ω+1 > ω but it's just shifted.

>Aleph-Zero
well now, who told you the wishes were countably infinite? I'd say it would be aleph-1, since a Wish can, for example, replicate a Greater Teleportation centered on any mathematical point within the worldspace. The number of mathematical points in a space of arbitrary size is aleph-1.
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>>152321426
>Rod of Inubus

I am wondering myself now, did Demi also tried out with breeding at the hsppy farm?
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>>152321560
You mean it would be at least aleph-1. I admit my mistake, and wonder if we can build a bigger set of wishes.
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>>152322071
Demi strikes me as too busy building things and planning to have sex; it's his hobby and his namesake after all. He may also in his own way be "saving himself" for Ainz, just in case.
Which would be hilarious.
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>>152322133
Post that fanfic with Ainz headpatting Demi by mistake.
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>>152322308
B-but thats too lewd !
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>>152322513
Best strategy to throw Nazarick into a disarray is to polymorph Ainz in something with a dick.
Second best - in something with vagina.
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>>152306555
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>>152322580
So wouldn't something with both maximize the chaos even more?
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>>152323642
The combined libido (and sexuality) of the Guardians would lead to literal gangrape of Ainz.
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>>152319577
>718 spells
Probably has it though.
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>>152321217
Overlord has a big climax every 3 vol so this is what will happen

>ainz asked to help subdue jaldaboath or beastmen army
>"dies" to jaldaboath which will lure out the other countries and to know who is loyal
>holy kingdom is turned into a fucked up biblical hell (part of the sasuga to make everyone realize how good ainz's rule really is)
>enri suddenly gathers her army along with the dwarves gear and charges in to avenge ainz
>something something momon and sasuga
>jaldaboath retreats
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>>152323824
Ainz can't cast cleric spells.
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>>152323865
Could be something similar though, and he could still probably do it, since he can summon freaking high level angels.
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>>152323865
He used it in manga 6 drama... On shalltear, but who cares
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>>152323856
You're probably right about 'Jaldabaoth' assaulting the Theocracy, but I'm placing my bet that Ainz really is going to die. One of the Godkin is going to actually deal a fatal blow to him. Ainz has the ring to resurrect though, noted in Vol 3, so he'll come back from it. Him being dealt fatal damage is going to piss off the denizens of Nazarick something fierce though.

At least I kind of hope something like that happens. I realize the point of the novel is supposed to be the world coping with the overwhelming force of Nazarick rolling over them, and 'SASUGA AINZ-SAMA', but it'd be nice to see them be bloodied up a bit more.
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>One of the Godkin is going to actually deal a fatal blow to him
Can't see it. Even if Evileye is level 85, Ainz is confident in not getting gibbed even if Nazarick were generally to turn hostile against him and being able to escape to safety - and Nazarick is full of minmaxed level 100s.
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What would Lord Ainz use Wish on?
Would it be a waste if he used it to have sex with Albedo?
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>>152324109
I believe in Suzuki's stupidity to lead to a death. Even his death would result in a win for him in the end somehow of course. Maybe he'll learn something more about the world by experiencing it.
>>152324159
He's a hoarder. That ring will never see the light of day again. Just like the poor Jewel of Death sitting in Hamsuke's mouth.
That would be the best use for it. Maybe he'd word it in some way that he could enjoy food and drinks again too, since he's been missing them.
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>>152324299
>I believe in Suzuki's stupidity to lead to a death
>stupidity
>Ainz
>stupid
>in a fight
He's literally anything but.
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>>152324299
>Spoiler
Would "I wish to be able to enjoy pleasurable sensations of the body" work?
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>>152324321
Fair enough, he is mostly an idiot in every other way. A WCI that the Godkin inherited could go against any and all of his predictions and planning though.
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>>152313596
This always make's me feel bad for Arche when I read the WN, dying sounds much better.
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>>152324409
>A WCI that
Slane only has one WCI from what we can tell and WCIs don't work on people with a WCI themselves.

>mostly an idiot in every other way
No he isn't. He's also a good negotiator.

>>152324378
Honestly that wouldn't even be a waste because sex aside (and sex really would be lowest on the priority list) he can now drink and eat.
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>>152324434
As long as it was quick at least. I still hate the idea of being eaten alive by cockroaches so numerous that they can literally go down my mouth, in my ears, etc. to eat me from the inside and out. That was a mental image I could've done without.
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>>152306555
Overlord as shown in Youjo Senki episode 02 railway billboard advertisement. What caught my eye was the juxtaposition of the subtitle and the big "Overlord" text together on the screen at the same time. I wonder if the screenplay writer intended that.
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>>152324492
To clarify here, I know that wasn't what happened to Arche, but it was still in the same volume. Seriously, what a horrible way to die.
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>>152324047
>on Shalltear
>undead vampire
You didn't think that through did you?
It was probably negative energy infusing spell, negative energy heals undead.
On Albedo he probably used a wand.
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>>152324049
>it'd be nice to see them be bloodied up a bit more.
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>>152314813
>fucking retarded shit
you're a real criminal at heart
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>>152324697
>That image
I mean, honestly now.
>Having overwhelming strength is pretty boring.
Clearly you should already know this. While it's a given that Ainz will eventually win in the end, something is going to have to give them another bloody nose here sooner or later.
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>>152324739
You can find them on wiki btw
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>>152324868
Post more Climb please. I want to see more of his eyes.
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>>152324825
>give them another bloody nose here sooner or later.
No, most likely few fuck-ups along the way.
Maybe hurting Nazarick operations indirectly, some cloak&dagger action at the fringes of AOG intelligence networks, maybe NW SKAOG collaborators killed, some futile partisan\false flag action.
But bloodied nose - no, not really happening.
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>>152324917
Renner plz.
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>>152324975
Adorable.
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>>152317627
>wasn't author in jail for tax evasion?
No, it was simply being late on taxes because the author thought the studio withheld enough of his earnings to cover for the taxes. But the default or whatever value Mamare set was not enough. It's the typical classic problem when the withholding is not enough and the person thinks it is and thus goes another quarter tax period.

Remember that corporations and individuals that have larger financial amounts are taxed monthly or quarterly instead of yearly. Thus, you can be delinquent on taxes in just 31 days since the last payment. I assume Mamare's case is quarterly. So if he was just 3 months late on taxes due to the previous quarter having more earnings than expected, he would get a delinquency notice.
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>>152324954
What moonrunes are saying here?
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>>152325035
>delinquent
A best
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Where are you guys reading the LN ?
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>>152325133
idk
>>152325152
FBI-kun plz.
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>>152325152
On my tablet. It somehow magically acquired all of them. I thank Ainz-sama every day, for it was likely the will of the Supreme Beings that put them there.
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How did Renner and Albedo become deep love buddies?
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>>152325275
It's a yandere thing.
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>>152325275
The shadows whatevers that have been in Renner's room retrieving and feeding information.
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I still think Lupu is playing a prank on Enri and Ainz didn't fake his death.
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Which SB has the most possibilities of becoming a degenerate if he comes to the NW?. I can see an obese Peroronchino doing lines of Laira Powder on Shalltear's chest, amongst a harem of Lolis spoils of war.
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>ainz nerfed albedo by accidentally making her a virgin
wew
Albedo is a virgin christmas cake succubus
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>>152325186
I guess I'm missing something on the secrecy, oh well, will eventually get my fill.
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>>152324654
But he had to use scroll in volume 3, so...i just think healing after a play is not something worth wasting something like that
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>>152325462
>Nerf
Christmas Cakes are the best kind of cakes though.
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>>152323865
>Ainz can't [x]
We've seen time and time again the solution Ainz/Maruyama has for this.

>I can't do something in my Arcane Wizard build?
>eh, I have a cash/magic item from Yggdrasil that will let me do it anyways at less efficiency that doesn't mean anything in this case anyways since I'm still the most powerful being on the planet
>thanks, shitty devs
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>>152324917 o-okay, here is your Climb. Don't hurt me Renner-sama.
Also, i wanted to add here just how much perfectly this pic>>152324868 illustartes my favourite part about overlord.
Such a classical shounen moment(or rather the moment of adventure), the seemingly invincible villain revealed himself and striked the hard blow to our heroes.
How their world will change?
What our heroes will do? What can they do?
And what kind of evil scheme the Sorcerer King prepared for them?
And then we see Ainz being Ainz
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>>152324455
>he can now drink and eat.
Drink all that girl cum and eat all that pussy!
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>>152325704
I should really spend more in cash shops just in case I get isekai'd
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>>152325738
What a cute puppy, thank you.
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>>152324654
Anon, Shalltear is a cleric, you only need a god to be a cleric, any god would do.
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>>152324868
Oh yeah, whats that in between and behind JUST and Climb?
To me it looks like front of some furry thing or Cocytus from sideways.
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>>152325152
In my bed or on my chair, you anon?
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>>152325741
I feel bad that we will literally never see Albedo in her grotesque form.
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>>152325961
I don't cause I have no idea where to read LNs beside Re:Zero
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>>152325999
Well first, checked
Second, http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=Overlord+Light+Novel
Third, you're welcome.
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>>152325985
I wonder if Albedo and Shalltear return to their base form when they climax, might be enough for Ainz to forever be scared of sex.
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>>152325985
Albedo as Ainz' waifu should not have a grotesque form. Leechtear was bad enough
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>>152325411
Tabula is next though he could go full occult cabbala jew.
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>>152325411
Blue Planet. He'd go full hippie to protect the environment of the NW so it wouldn't end up like his old world.
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>lakyus
>heavy explosion
>all those blondes that will end up canon fodder
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>>152325508
Mods ban for links.
Lurk archive.
>>152325516
Using scroll for what?
He can infuse negative energy in others as we've seen in Arena vol10.
That would heal any Undead.
>>152325885
Shalltear is cleric okay, but her god is evin and she don't have any healing\res spells, only regeneration and spuit lance drain ability.
What is your point?
Ainz can heal Shalltear but it's not a healing spell, it's negative energy spell.
We've seen Chagama negativehealing Ainz in Prologue.
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>>152325895
Pile of papers?
So-Bin is that kind of artist whose work you need to decipher sometimes, yeah. But his work is still nice to look at and helped to give overlord it's own style
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>>152326200
>Heavy Explosion
What are the odds she'll actually get something worthwhile enough to have Ainz/Nazarick cure her illness? I'm really hoping she won't be relegated to the trash like so many other things that get introduced, and then never brought up again.
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>>152326291
Doesn't look like it at all, gonna try to fuck around with it tomorrow if thread is still up and post the two things I see, but if it is just papers, well then fuck me up and over when FBI comes knocking.
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>>152326369
I agree with him, definitely a stack of papers. Jircniv is being overwhelmed with work after all, it was his major complaint before Ainz ruined his stomach with too much deep boning.
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>>152326419
I also remember that someone suggested that these red shadows is actually a shadow demon and not just a red shadows.
Interesting, maybe that someone is right.
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>>152326200
Don't worry, Anon. Ainz-sama will conquer the known human lands of the NW, and under his protection qt blonde girls will be protected forever.

And for all we know, they actually have an autosomal dominant mutation for blondes, unlike the recessive one in our world. No one says they evolved the same way as we did, considering they can interbreed with elves and dwarves (i.e. they didn't completely speciate off yet, in addition to the fact that there's fucking magic in their world that leads to unrealistic effects).
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>>152326320
We don't know where Maruyama will take her, and Maruyama has shown he's willing to go any which way Editor-sama wants after seeing how Arche was dealt with (and to a lesser extent, Brain and Gazef's death over Reavan).

We're not even sure she'll be a turncoat. Jerky is paranoid she is simply because she's told him outright she'll bug out if there's a cure for her curse, yet at the same time she's given the tsundere flag of saying "I want to repay your kindness, etc." Heck, some of the JP ooekaki bits have shown her in a tsundere pose.

Will she fall to the mighty bone, we don't know. If she does, that means only good things for her, but the fact that she does have some loyalty to Jircniv means she's fully able of getting completely fucked over by association and misplaced actions out of said loyalty.
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>>152326866
>Brain and Gazef's death over Reavan
I should really get around to reading the WN one of these days I guess. I've read all of the LN, but have been avoiding the WN since so much apparently gets changed anyways.

It would indeed be nice to see her stay by Jircniv's side. Maybe her sticking around could help him get back some of his confidence. I mean, shit, as a vassal state couldn't he just request Ainz for a healer to cure her disease as one of his most loyal subjects anyways?
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>>152327124
Cant Ainz break a deal to marry Jircniv to someone from Nazarick in order to have permanent surveillance without using the Mirror thingy so he doesnt get more ill?
>Ainz: I want you to marry the daughter of one of my friends
>Jircniv pictures some sort of eldritch abomination
>Jircniv: I-im flattered Gown-dono howev- *Solution enters*
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>got the drama CD
>15:20
>mfw >>152321059
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>>152319725
How come your cancerous post still up?

fuck mods and their false deletions and false moderation
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how can a lvl 100 mage using swords cant kill a lvl 30 rogue with right click auto attack?
he should have more agilty more str more everything even if he is a mage
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>>152327474
>>Ainz: I want you to marry the daughter of one of my friends
There's your problem. Ainz isn't going to marry off any of the named NPCs made by the original guildmembers. He would NEVER make them do anything they didn't want to already do, and none of them seem very partial to humans in the least (even Yuri and Shizu just don't mind humans, rather than liking them outright; Sebas trusts in their better nature but ultimately it's just a stepping stone to his belief in protecting the weak).

Jerky at best would get a summoned Mercenary, AT BEST. Even then it probably wouldn't happen because there's not a good way for Ainz to present Jerky a concubine without outright admitting she's "some monster I summoned; go make babies you crazy kids," or training her immensely so that she somehow SEEMS like a living, breathing creature that has led a "life" before being summoned to follow orders to their death.

It's a really convoluted plan.
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>>152327721
2/10 ESL
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>>152327721
Because he explained it; he has no technique, just pure strength and speed.
Clem and the NWers' Martial Arts are literally empowered by their techniques to the point that they're much, much stronger than their physical limits would let on.
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>>152327721
Talents boosting her beyond ordinary level 30 stats.
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>>152327474
>I want you to marry the daughter of one of my friends
Ainz wouldn't be a bad papa and force that on his daughters. Why do people keep asking this question? Unless the NPCs take a liking to someone Ainz isn't going to MAKE them do anything they would otherwise hate unless in extreme circumstances (like making Sebas kil Tsuare).
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>>152327819
it doesnt matter if you dont have technique. you have much much more agilty. he should be faster. he should have seen her in slow motion
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>>152327949
She's going faster and more efficiently than he can track even with his Level100 stats.
The fact of the matter is that he can't deal with it is objective; her Martial Arts make her able to go toe to toe with his pseudo-Level100 Warrior from the Perfect Warrior magic.
Martial Arts is essentially Arcane magic for melee fighters; it makes them do reality-bending shit. Gazef can hit things six times with a single Martial Arts attack. Logically that makes no sense unless it's magic-for-warriors.
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>>152328093
>her Martial Arts make her able to go toe to toe with his pseudo-Level100 Warrior from the Perfect Warrior magic.
No they don't, he didn't use Perfect Warrior in her mock fight.
If he did he'd literally steamroll the speed out of her.
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>>152328093
did he used perfect warior there ? i dont remember reading that.
if he used perfect warrior it would end in a second.
remember the fight with jaldabooth when he used perfect warrior. he was so fast not even evileye could see his moves
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PA must be so lonely, I really wish Ainz would give his son more love
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>>152328317
He just gave him permission to go back into the treasury like one volume ago, he'll be fine.
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>>152328317
>PA must be so lonely
I honestly think he's not. If anything he's sad being out of the Vault all the time.
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>>152328375
By accident, PA really got all the validation he'll need for several volumes of not appearing. He was acknowledged to be Ainz's son to his face; none of the other NPCs can claim that much closeness aside from Albedo.
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>>152328317
he is an idiot.
if i were him i would change my shape into ainz and fuck every nazarick citizen. and i mean everyone including males. n-no homo
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>>152328093
He wasn't using perfect warrior against clementine, only shaltear and demiurge.
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>>152328443
I want to cuddle sebas after I suck him off

no homo
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>>152326291
>>152326369
>>152326419
Alright done now, do forgive the cancer quality I just needed to get it out of my head.
I do now clearly see that it's a stack of papers, but those 2 circles are still annoyingly suspicious.
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>>152327765
Well I doubt Jircniv could resist a succubus, even a low level one, but I wonder if Ainz could develop feelings for Mercenary NPCs?
>Ainz summons succubus troupe
>Ainz: your job will be to ...e-entertain the adventurers in E-Rantel
>In Unison: Yes fath- Ainz sama.
>Ainz has a mental breadown. "That's right, regardless of wheter they come from they're all our children"
>Ainz: Demiurge lets ban prostitution, also let the servants select the tasks they want to do.
>Demiurge tries to decipher what Ainz is thinking.
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>>152327949
Ainz doesn't have high agility stats, both clementine and go-gin were out speeding him.
Which makes me wonder how he will fare when he fights an opponent with 90+ or out of chart agility, he should be helpless.
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>>152328530
Looks like a background shadows.
I suddenly remembered how we get pic bad quality pic related(before the translation) and people thought that Ainz here is wrecking three warriors with his bare hands by himself.
I was agreeing with them at the time.
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>>152328904
Gaddamnit, spare pic here.
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>>152325741
>!
cease and desist
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>>152328838
when you say go gin i remembered their fight
ainz promissed not to use any magic. then he used a weapon that can cast magic. it was idiotic.
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>>152328987
Shalltear really does look retarded in that form. Ridiculous bow
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>>152329812
Looks like something a baby would wear, maybe he was into baby play?
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Itty bitty kitties and big fat tats
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>>152324434
>This always make's me feel bad for Arche when I read the WN, dying sounds much better.

But she snaps out of it and actually reunites with her sisters.
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>>152332076
BIG
FAT
TATS
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>>152332076
>>152332311
TIG
OL
BITTIES
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Uploading a flac version of the drama cd for audio autists like me.
Check the comments of the blog post in an hour.
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>>152332076
Shouldn't Shalltear be sucking on those instead of being flustered? since she's a raging lesbian, or is Albedo not cute enough?
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Friendly reminder Volume 12 is going to be Overlord: Doom Edition, with Ainz's army of the undead batting in every city against Jaldabaoth's army of demons.
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>>152319400
Finally, JUST fanfics are back.
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>>152332076
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>>152325411
> I can see an obese Peroronchino doing lines of Laira Powder on Shalltear's chest, amongst a harem of Lolis spoils of war.

I think of Perorocino as like Log Horizon's Naotsugu. He probably is a legit closet pervert but would get really shy around a real girl hitting on him, and he's also anti-incest.

Shalltear hitting on him would creep out Perorocino to no end. Dude loses his erection just hearing Buku's voice out of his favorite girl.
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>>152332525
Crap I spaced out.
I'll bring them out eventually.
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>>152329180

I was annoyed by this at first as well, but if you take that agreement to a logical extreme it meant no magical weapons either. Go Gin's sword and armor are made of high-grade materials, but they're not enchanted. How are you going to kill a troll without fire or acid, as a human?

With Clem's stilettos at least, Ainz used a NW weapon he had acquired and didn't tamper with.
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>>152306555
Nice trips.
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>>152334043
>shy around a real girl
>anti-incest
Doesn't seem that way from Shalltear, since creations resemble their creator.
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Shalltear
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>>152335541
Shall tear what?
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>>152335629
Shalltear Shalltear
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>>152335534

They only resemble their creator where the bio doesn't contradict. Pero clearly wrote Shalltear to be lustful and lewd, but I think he'd be turned off if she directed those feelings toward him.

On that subject, I wish we got a transcript of PA's bio. Despite what Ainz might say, they are very very similar to one another. Or rather, PA is a better reflection of Satoru Suzuki than Ainz Ooal Gown is.

I also wish for more Mare development, since he's like Alt Pero but is so robotic inside.
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>“Ainz-sama, I fear to ask, but I have a question. Why did you have to give the emperor of the humans a place as a collaborator? Couldn’t we have just conquered the Empire by force?”
>Ainz glanced at the other Guardians. They all seemed to feel the same way.
>Even if they had no intention of going against the decision made by Ainz, their master, even if they thought it was the right way, the doubts would still keep welling up.
>First, I need to decide whether or not to affirm or deny Shalltear and Aura’s words. If I affirm them, that means conquering the Empire is part of the plan. If I deny them, it means we won’t be conquering the Empire for now… but which side are Demiurge and Albedo hoping for? Oh no, not good, I took too long…
>With a cold smile on his face, Ainz laughed.
>He took a deep breath.
>Shalltear is always messing up, so I should reject her in this!
>“―I feel that would be a foolish course of action, Shalltear."

>The light in the Guardians’ eyes brightened as they heard Ainz' words.

>That was probably not a mistake.
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>>152335877
>Mare
>Alt Pero
I thought Mare was going to end up being an Alpha and hitting on all the ladies in Nazarick, probably get some replacements for when he and Aura die and can no longer guard the Sixth Floor.
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>>152336785
How will the rest of the immortal guardians handle the death of Aura and Mare?

How much death and destruction will Ainz create in grief?
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>>152336865
Ainz has at least a century or two to figure out how to get all the mortal NPCs immortality somehow, even if he has to sacrifice millions of sapient lives to do it. He's ready, he's willing, and certainly equipped to do so; he just needs to FIND it.

I have no doubt that Ainz-sama will find a way once it starts to become pressing (most likely before Aura and Mare, Cocytus and Entoma and possibly even PA and Narberal will start to make him remember their lives are finite).
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>>152336865
>How much death and destruction will Ainz create in grief?
Unless he figures out how to lash out against reality itself he'd honestly just get depressed and despondent about it. Ainz is in his own words selfish but he's not particularly malicious unless he believes something has been stolen from him. He can't really send That Old Thief, Time to Demiurge's happy farm.
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>>152328838
>>152329180

What are you guys talking about? Go Gin's stuff was enchanted.

>"He had hired adamantite-ranked adventurers to gather the components for that armor, and then had the masterwork result enhanced with magic. At that time, he had sunk about 20% of his assets into that particular project. The club he carried was made of a magical alloy as well, and it had been made in a similar manner. The Martial Lord put on his magic rings, amulets, and the other components of his panoply."
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>>152337163
meant for
>>152335272 not >>152328838
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>>152337082
Im pretty sure most every NPC is already ageless immortal due to being of various minmaxed heteromorph races
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>>152337275
Aura and Mare will grow old and die slowly.
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Can't he just rebuy aging NPC like he did Shalltear? Memories seem to go over. The sticking point would be when.
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>>152337275
We don't know if ALL heteromorphs don't continue to age. Cocytus and Entoma are the tests here since they're just giant insect people.
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>>152337307
>they're dressed according to their actual gender
I don't know why but I feel this is wrong. What has happened?
Though Aura can wear cute feminine clothing all the time.
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>>152337644
It's the bottoms that Mare is wearing. What the fuck is that?
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>>152337744
Those are sock garters. They used to be a thing, back when men wearing suit slacks and button-up shirts as day-to-day wear regardless of your job or age was still happening (especially before the time of elastic being invented).
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>>152337082
Would Ainz love Aura and Mare's kids the same way as them?
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>>152328317
He literally got called Ain'z son.
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>>152315469
>Politics loses meaning in the face of overwhelming power.

'cept she's not overwhelmingly powerful. She's rank 9. Unthinking use of power is useful for attracting the attention of those truly power but otherwise uninterested in the actions of those beneath them. Politics is what gives that group of murderers and rapists structure so they can constructively interact at all. She follows the rules not because she cares about the rules (maybe she does), but because there are people who care about the rules or care about others also being subject to the rules.

No one murdered rank 71 because of the rules even though no one particularly cared about him.

The raiding of villages was Barbatos' thing. Dantalian went along because the was the path that led to the circumstances he wanted to exploit. He didn't care about the villages, he cared about what came after.
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>>152339439
>she's not overwhelmingly powerful
>she's rank 9
>rank 9
>not overwhelmingly powerful compared to 71
Come on.

>Politics is what gives that group of murderers and rapists structure so they can constructively interact at all
Which is illogical to begin with - why do they give people who were both weak and lazy (originally Datalian was literal garbage) power? And even moreso, if Datalian suddenly got his shit together and acted like a 'genius', I would imagine people would want to get rid of him - he's now a threat.

>barbatos' thing
Barbatos wasn't even around at the time, she was surrounded.
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>>152339573
Patamon is not powerful herself, nothing in the story so far suggest that, what she has is number and political power.
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>>152339573
>>152339739
>>152339439
>Dungeon Defense
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>>152339739
>nothing in the story
It's not explicitly stated but consider that ALL the low ranks are garbage, while the high ranks we actually know the power levels of are extremely powerful.

>>152339835
It's a natural derail.
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Is Climb a virgin or a cherry boy?
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>>152340210
A twat is all he is.
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>>152339573
>why do they give people who were both weak and lazy power?
Is seems to me like you don't understand what a Demon Lord is, apart from having a body that is sustained in mana they aren't any different than normal humans, if they want physical or magical power they have to train for it, like Barbatos did.
As cultural things go they are considerad royalty but that only takes you so far, If you want more power in their society you have to work for it, like Patamon did, this is why rank 71 and Dandy-boy are considered trash, they never work for anything and just sit in their nobles titles
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>>152340402
In which case one expects Paimon to also be powerful, since if she is not then once again - intelligence actually means nothing in the face of overwhelming power. Just imagine Renner trying to take on Nazarick with her intelligence.

>>152340210
Climb is a fucking faggot
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>>152340210
Climb manages to be an even bigger oblivious fuccboi than Fate route Shirou
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>>152340517
Paimon power comes from numbers and land, she has all the good land where all the shit grow and has good natural defenses while Barbatos has all the shitty land that was rape by all the wars
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>>152340653
If Paimon were actually that weak though then Barbatos would simply walk in and take all her shit, perhaps splitting it with the higher ups so they don't flip shit at her. Like we can talk politics all we want but in the end power is everything. China can get some concessions from the US in return for concessions of their own, they can engage in bilateral diplomacy. Libya cannot do so with the US.
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Gazef, come back!
They're shitting their Dungeon Defense crap all over the thread!
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>>152340915
>natural derail
Also Gazef Stronoff would do some retarded shit like mumble "muh freedumb of speech" and kill himself.
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>>152340915
Gazef was a bigger retard than Nabe

Unless his goal was to die a completely pointless death and abandon the Kingdom he swore to protect.
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>>152340984
>natural derail
Clem, plz poke some holes in these apologetic fools.
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>>152341089
To be fair, his death did stop Ainz's rampage and fulfilled his duty to the King.
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>>152340795
Why are you putting so much emphasis on individual power? Do you understand what it means to control more than 50% of the demons' armies?
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>>152341089
>>152340984
>>152341207
Gazef was a straight-forward man.
He saw the opportunity and could not let it pass.
Brain and Climb might eventually figure out timestop too not that it will help them in any way.
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>>152341256
Because someone like barbatos is powerful enough that claiming 'hey she might've caused the Black Death' doesn't raise any eyebrows.
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Something I've been wondering.
In volume 9, when ainz arrive at the empire camp. I wonder why the one of the four knight isn't briefed that Ainz is skeleton.
Ainz arriving wearing mask is normal, but why Jirc and the other four knight didn't tell him that their guest is skeleton.
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>>152341573
The knight that arrived riding Griffin or Hypogryph was aware about Ainz true nature behind the mask when he arrived at the camp.
It's the general who was oblivious.
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>>152335685
Shall one tear Shalltear's you know what?
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>>152341669
Navel?
I'd 11/10 tear into it.
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>>152341573
Nimble knew that he was a spooky skeleton, but nobody else did.
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>>152341635
Correct me if I remember wrong.
He is the one standing beside Ainz when he cast the spell right. After casting the spell, ainz take off his mask and the guy was "not surprised the one beneath the mask isn't human", meaning he didn't know Ainz is skeleton.
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>>152341824
It was referring to everyone in the army
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>>152341824
Nimble had heard about it from Baziwood and Leinas beforehand, he mentions it when Ainz is getting off the carriage.
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>>152341824
You're wrong.
>It was frightening. That was the emotion Nimble felt most keenly now.
>He had heard of Ainz' monstrous nature from his comrades.
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>>152341969
>>152341981
I remember there's lot of line saying nimble heard lot about ainz power, but there's none about his appereance.
And the line itself.

> If the circumstances had been different, perhaps they might have thought he was wearing a mask under his mask. However, as they saw this, the hearts of Nimble and all the knights of the Empire sank.
> Anyone who could wield such power could not be human. It was because of this mindset that they were able to accept this as reality.

It even says nimble there.
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>>152342100
It's probably referring to the fact that seeing him in person is a lot different/scarier than just hearing about it from his comrades.
Especially after witnessing him casting that spell.
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>>152342100
There's a difference between having a qt with killer thighs tell you "so there's this spooky skellington that's really powerful" and seeing that spooky skellington show up with 500 armies worth of power (actually 1000, since the soul riders are each worth an army and the DKs / DWs on top of them are as well) then have that entire army sit on standby as he nuked 80 000 people for a spell setup then trample the other 120 000 effortlessly limited only by the number of people there, then 1v1 the strongest warrior in the Kingdom and kill his dumb ass before he moves.
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>>152332533
Shalltear is also a necrophiliac. That's why she's mostly a raging lesbo for her Vampire Brides, and then only to a lesser extent for other beings. If Albedo were in her original Tabula state then Shallter and Albedo might have done something despite still being rivals over Ainz (as Albedo would still want Ainz, but only to have sex with him, probably not to be his primary wife).
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>>152341760
The effect of this was basically just to add +500 NPC levels to Nazarick, right? Since we don't know the effects of the other WCIs Nazarick has it's hard to say this one is 'best' if so, but still super handy since it helped make such a robust cast of loyal followers for Ainz in the NW. I wonder what kind of NPCs the guild would have needed to cut without that +500.
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>>152342500
>The effect of this was basically just to add +500 NPC levels to Nazarick, right?
No, we don't know what the fuck it does. The name is The Throne of Kings, but you can simply buy extra levels iirc and conquering the dungeon in the first go might do it too.
Some people have speculated it has to do with whatever the fuck is going on in Floor 8, and other people think that the Throne lets them recruit any raid bosses they defeat (probably with conditions like being the first to defeat or something).
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>>152342555
I suppose so. I remember interpreting that first clear bonus as being the WCI, which then granted said +500 levels. They could just be completely separate as well I guess. So many details we'll literally never get, like all of the requirements for that stupid Goblin General's Horn, or the sword Ainz could use from the Dwarf vault.
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>>152342614
That's part of the fun
Also at least one of the gobbo horn's requirements can only be met in the NW, so perhaps
1. Be in command of goblins already
2. Have commander levels
Both of these are easily obtained in normal play, but the last one
3. Face an army of enemies in excess of 5000
May be a lot harder.
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>>152342500
>>152342555
In Yggdrasil the effect was to give +500 NPC levels and maybe some cosmetic shit.
In NW, nobody knows if it has any extra abilities as it seems pretty dense fluff-wise.

When I said 'best' I was being deliberately vague and subjective, what was said about giving Ainz a diverse roster of subordinates is only one of the reasons why I think it's the best WCI in Nazarick.
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>>152342737
Ainz should really take the time to cast his magic appraisal on all of the WCIs since it's been beefed up in the NW. May be extra details on them that didn't exist in Ygg. Also would give the author the chance to actually give us a bloody description of some of them.
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>>152342737
>In Yggdrasil the effect was to give +500 NPC levels and maybe some cosmetic shit.
Where is this stated? The prologue never tells us what the effect of the actual Throne is.
Plus my main issue is, what the fuck is going on in Floor 8? It would be more easily explained if the WCI that came with the dungeon actually had the ability to pull something like that.
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>>152342737
But +500 levels is a bonus for clearing it one go.
Throne WCI is a separate thing alltogether.
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>>152342803
>>152342802
Iirc it was said that they got the ToK for clearing it in one go and discovered that they had +500 more levels than they thought they would get.
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>>152342850
They only guessed the got the ToK for clearing it in one go, but I think it makes more sense that it was just there because like what happens if you take it on the second try, the throne just disappears forever?
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>>152342802
He'll have to do something with the 8th floor sooner or later. He can't just keep using it as the Boogeyman floor. It'll probably after the Theocracy is leveled or a subordinate state.

I'm curious at Rubedo though. I don't like the character already. I liked the power balance idea they established between Sebas, Cocytus, and Shalltear. Then he had to introduce Rubedo which was supposed to be overwhelmingly more powerful or something - boring.
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I've been re-reading the Overlord novels far more than is healthy and I still can't get over how the human characters are believable and undergo lots of dramatic character development (Ainz included), while the NPCs either don't change or change very slowly. Once the NPC development starts I think the excitement will really take off.

Volumes 8-11 are of exceptionally higher quality than Volumes 1-3. The end of Volume 7 is pretty awful though, even when you take into account there are misunderstandings and things not stated.

Additionally...if I'm reading this right, the Leader of the 13 Heroes started off weaker than anyone, but got stronger. This either means he has that broken-ass WCI or he was able to level up in the NW. That would be a huge development because no player or NPC so far has shown the ability to level up (though it might just be cause they're too strong, rather than there be a hardcap).
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>>152342916
That's why Rubedo is like a bogeyman. Also, there's never a powerbalance. Albedo > Cocytus > Sebas > Albedo or something but Shalltear takes apart all of them and Mare is compareable, while Rubedo towers above everyone.
It's speculated she's a literal World Class NPC, in that she might use a Caloric Stone as her power source.

>>152342917
No, everyone in the NW "levels up" - Gazef is not born at level 29, for example
It's more sensible that he was a god-kin, which is speculated to mean either higher XP gain, uncapped levels, or both.
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>>152342917
>That would be a huge development because no player or NPC so far has shown the ability to level up (though it might just be cause they're too strong, rather than there be a hardcap).
Ainz isn't leveling because he was already level 100. Maybe the leader of the 13 heroes was a new player that got swept up in it.

No clue on the NPCs not leveling though. Likely explanation is just that they're all too high level to do so compared to the weaklings they're facing right now.
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>>152342889
>He headed straight for the plaque, and slotted his orb into the final depression. A scroll descended from the sky, landing beside Momonga.
>In its place, the plaque vanished, replaced by a throne made from a single gigantic crystal.
>There was no doubt that the scroll was the ownership deed, which meant that the throne was some sort of artifact.
>Usually, the dungeon reward was one or the other, but this seemed like an exceptional case.

Seems to me that they got the ToK for beating it in one go.
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>>152342995
It sounds to me like the reward literally is the Throne.
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>>152342916

That's not the tier.

Strongest Floor Guardian: Shalltear
Strongest NPC: Rubedo
Strongest Warriors: Rock/Paper/Scissors between Albedo, Cocytus and Sebas

From the hints, it sounds to me like Rubedo might be over Level 100. Consider a 10 level difference is nigh insurmountable in Ygg, and if you combine that with Vitcim's super debuff it makes sense why the 8th Floor was unbeatable.
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>>152343039
Except the way people gave up doesn't sound like that
If it was just 'a really strong NPC with a broken debuff thing', that wouldn't be so ridiculous as to make people petition the devs for rebalance. Something major is up on Floor 8 and it's not just Rubedo - the strongest floor in general even without Rubedo is still Floor 8.
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>>152343039
>From the hints, it sounds to me like Rubedo might be over Level 100
Don't remember seeing any hints like that. Anything to her has been deliberately vague. I even looked over the wiki just now to see if I just forgot something. Though while looking it over, I also saw this.
>When Albedo asked to take Rubedo in her squad, Ainz rejected the idea but later allowed her to use Rubedo.
When in the world did the second part happen? I remember Ainz pretty thoroughly rejecting the use of Rubedo. I don't recall any follow up in a later volume to say she could use her sister.
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>>152343029
Exactly, they got rewarded with the ToK for beating the dungeon in one go.
They then discovered that they had +500 NPC levels to play with for a dungeon that size.

To me that seems that the ToK gives +500 levels.
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>>152343076
It's explicitly stated that the 8th Floor forces (combined, with WCI) are stronger than Rubedo. Lends a bit of credence to the idea that the 8th Floor people are former raid bosses.
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>>152343096
Albedo tricked Ainz by faking some shit like "I just wanted to assemble the strongest team" Ainz kekd and allowed it.
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>>152342984

Ainz is assuming that there is a min 1 XP bonus for killing things. That might not be right, he might get 0 XP from killing regular humans. There's one major thing suggesting this might be possible: no XP from summons is already a thing.

In D&D, you don't get XP for killing your own summons, even if the summons are super powerful or equal in strength to a real monster. But Ainz hasn't made that theory yet.

It's possible he could still level up if he battled a god or another player.
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>>152343096
>When in the world did the second part happen? I remember Ainz pretty thoroughly rejecting the use of Rubedo. I don't recall any follow up in a later volume to say she could use her sister.
In v7c4, to be precise. Ainz vetoed it at first but came around shortly after.
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>>152343136
Why do you space like a faggot?
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>>152343136
What if all life in the New World was originally a summon of the first players to cross over?
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>>152343135
>>152343154
I remember that line, but I don't remember interpreting it that way. I was thinking he approved of the idea of assembling the strongest team, but still rejected her using Rubedo. I guess I interpreted it wrong.
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>>152343170
Not him, but maybe for easier reading?
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>>152343105
>Exactly, they got rewarded with the ToK for beating the dungeon in one go.
>in one go
Again I feel like you're pulling this out of your ass and even if it's true in no way is it stated that the extra 500 levels are from the WCI. It doesn't make sense when you can cash shop the thing. Why would a WCI be nothing more than something anyone can get for 50 USD?

>>152343116
>with WCI
Yeah I think they might be raid bosses or at least unique NPCs, but still it just shows how ridiculously strong Rubedo is if you need WCI to even let raid bosses touch her. I remember it being explicitly stated she could utterly shitstomp Touch Me for example.
Maybe you need WCI, Super Tier, or T10 to even touch her? She'd have immunity to anything below level 100 like Ainz being immunity to anything below level 61.
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>>152343187
But summons have a set time limit unless it's an undead using a corpse.
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Rubedo is basically a walking WCI, since she was an alchemical creation from the Caloric Stone.There's no shame in saying she's the strongest NPC since her power would naturally overshadow everyone else without wielding a WCI themselves.
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>>152342500
>add +500 NPC levels to Nazarick, right?
No, no, that was just part of the Developer reward for AOG somehow conquering a super-high level dungeon in one go, along WITH the throne.
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>>152343135
>>152343154
Following up on my line here >>152343188, I pulled up the volume again. My bad, you're both right.
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>>152343193
Then why space?
I can understand starting every sentence with a new line, that's how I was taught to format business mail at work by senpais.
But spacing between sentences just looks like attentionwhoring.

You should only space like that if you really want to emphasize a point different from what you've previously wrote about.
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>>152343188
It's mainly because it was a general anti-player strike force and he was worried that sending anything less than his best would result in everyone going down, especially if it was a unified 6-man party or something. He even allowed PA to go.

>>152343218
The power ranking is:

1) 8th Floor Forces
2) Rubedo
3) Touch Me
4) Ulbert
5) Momonga in full divine gear
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>>152343218
>It doesn't make sense when you can cash shop the thing
Where is it confirmed they could purchase NPC levels anyways? They could purchase a lot of things to cosmetically change the dungeon, but it seems like the game developers would have to just not give a shit about balance at ALL if they let people buy NPC levels.
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>>152343261
>>152343170
For god's sake, you've been on 4chan however long and you've never seen people space out comments line by line?
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>>152343286
First of all straight power rankings don't quite work anyway, but second of all it's actually
1> 8th Floor w/ WCI
2> Rubedo
3> 8th Floor w/o WCI
4> Touch Me
.
.
.

>>152343292
>but it seems like the game developers would have to just not give a shit about balance at ALL if they let people buy NPC levels
Sounds about right laddo, remember Longinus exists in a game where you cannot make alts.
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>>152343286
What would their tactics be?
Drop Rubedo from the sky, wait for her to run out of gasoline then clean up?
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>>152343076
>If it was just 'a really strong NPC with a broken debuff thing', that wouldn't be so ridiculous as to make people petition the devs for rebalance.

I can imagine. Pretend Rubedo is a Level 120 NPC, and Victim's debuff basically resets your stats from Level 100 to Level 1.

See what I mean by unfair? Victim specifically, not Rubedo or Lastborn, was cited as the difference maker in stoping the raid.
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>>152343320
Yes and I call them faggots every time.
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>>152343292
Not everything can be cash shopped. The premise of YGG was exploration, so allowing a reward of exploration to be CSed would defeat the purpose.

I think it's more likely that you could CS to HELP in exploration, like powering yourself up for short periods, but you'd still need to explore to jack yourself up.

>>152343326
That is surprisingly similar to how Shalltear was intended to be used. Frankly speaking, nobody knows since nobody knows how Rubedo fights.
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>>152343218
It's explicitly stated that they got both the ToK and the deed as a special case, as well was having +500 more levels from somewhere.

You are right that it's never stated that the +500 levels come from the WCI, however a lot of Overlord lore determined by the fan base is founded from inference and speculation.

In this case I infer that the +500 NPC levels comes from the unexpected extra reward.
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>>152343381
>+500 more levels from somewhere.
I thought it was stated that the dungeon is SuperClass, one per each of Yggdrasil Worlds.
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>>152343406
Nazarick is not one of those, however. Those have NPC level caps of 3000.
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>>152343341
I think judging from Victim's weird relative strength and all of his classes being Messiah/Martyr-type, it might be the case that Victim's debuff grows exponentially stronger the stronger his enemies. So the problem becomes that if your party is too strong, Victim kicks your shit in, but if your party is weak enough that Victim doesn't have a debilitating effect, your party is also too weak to take on Rubedo and Floor 8.

>>152343381
>in this case I infer
I don't, it sounds too weak and also illogical because it'd imply that either everyone who clears a high level dungeon in one go gets a ToK, that AoG is the very first group to EVER clear a high level dungeon in one go, or that somehow Nazarick is the ONLY dungeon that drops a fucking WCI when you clear it on the first go. It just doesn't make sense.
I think it makes more sense that the ToK is some reward in addition to the extra 500 which is just a generic reward for clearing on the first run.

>>152343406
Nazarick isn't the Superclass of its world.
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>>152343475
>everyone who clears a high level dungeon in one go

There's the rub. People don't even try to clear dungeons in one go. And by 'one go' it means: the first time anything has ever attempted a clear.
Ainz Ooal Gown was the first guild to do this.
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>>152343475
>either everyone who clears a high level dungeon in one go gets a ToK, that AoG is the very first group to EVER clear a high level dungeon in one go, or that somehow Nazarick is the ONLY dungeon that drops a fucking WCI when you clear it on the first go. It just doesn't make sense.
Everyone who clears an undiscovered high difficulty dungeon in one go may get a WCI that isn't necessarily the ToK.
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what did she mean by this?
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>>152343568
>Gundam
I miss the 90's Gundam art styles. This new blob art is just too depressing to look at.
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>>152343475
>AoG is the very first group to EVER clear a high level dungeon in one go
For a dungeon of Nazarick's level, that's fully possible. I feel you're overthinking this.

It's not a 3k+ NPC level dungeon, but it's close. As well, it's probably fully expected in Ygg to die in dungeons or bug out from your initial attempt.

Ygg was fucking difficult from how Maruyama describes it considering how shit the PvP rules were and how big the world(s) were. It was probably literal fucking madness to conquer a dungeon of Nazarick's relative strength AND do it on the first try.

Like a lot of things related to Yggdrasil's mechanics, raw serendipity and luck seem to have a bigger impact on rewards than raw strength and otherwise smarter playstyles. While it seems a stupid idea for a game it does lend credence to how Yggdrasil favored forcing players to explore new things for the sake of it rather than stats and metagaming competitions.
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>>152343552
>Ainz Ooal Gown was the first guild to do this.
But this isn't stated anywhere.

>>152343561
And the effects of that WCI are to do something like add 500 levels? What happens in the case that you are not interested in starting a guild?
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>>152343568
She wants the D
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>>152343475

Nazarick wasn't the superclass of Helheim, but it might have been more difficult to 1CC than the actual superclass. Add that to the mythology of AOG as a small but powerful guild and it impressed the developers enough to gift them a WCI.
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>>152343596
IBO is something of a budget-cutter series to begin with for many things, both in anime and in merchandise. All the money has been put into marketing it (which speaks well as to its economic success).
Ban-Rise figured out that all gundam series are technically financial success, so they figured that they could easily put out a mediocre series and spam marketing to hell in a coordinated effort with gunpla kits with little complaint.
And it worked.
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>>152343605
But again, it simply sounds weak for what it is. 500 levels? That's not even applicable if you're not creating a guild and it's not like you can put a WCI on the Grand Exchange or something.

>>152343629
AoG wasn't even an actual guild at the time was it? Can you even be a guild without a guildbase?
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>>152343614
>But this isn't stated anywhere.
It is. After they clear it first try, it's said that they have never heard of any other dungeon being cleared in this manner, aka blind.
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>>152343662
I must've missed that but either way, it seems like a shitty WCI.
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>>152343652
+500 NPC levels is actually huge, considering the highest cap is 3000 for a large dungeon.
More NPC levels means more defense, in terms of firepower and diversity of builds.
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>>152343652
Who says I was talking about the Throne? I am of the camp that says the levels were an additional gift/bonus rather than the Throne giving extra levels.
I was stating that the fact that AOG did something that was probably nearly-impossible in Ygg, i.e. conquer a fucking ludicrous dungeon in one go, first try.
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>>152343614
>What happens in the case that you are not interested in starting a guild?
Sell it - WCIs are worth a lot after all. There would definitely be places willing to take it, like that Great Cat Kingdom. Imagine 500 more cute cat girls for your kingdom. What a fantastic WCI.
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>>152343724
>is actually huge
It's actually worthless if you're not starting a guild.

>>152343767
Oh well that's my point of view too, it just doesn't seem sensible to me that a WCI would be so limited and also so mundane.

>>152343777
>sell it
To who do you sell it to? If you showed up with a fucking WCI in your possession people would Dimension Lock etc. etc. and pile on your dumb ass for showing up with one.
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>>152343767
You're not wrong in thinking that, but won't it be easier to tie the bonus NPC levels with the bonus item they were rewarded?
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>>152343652
>That's not even applicable if you're not creating a guild and it's not like you can put a WCI on the Grand Exchange or something.
Virtual land ownership has been sold for real money to real idiots. You probably could make fat money on people willing to pay outright for a nice base (if other more opportunistic players didn't learn of it first and then assault it to take over it themselves).

WCIs I can see as plenty possible to ostensibly auction once you have the ownership data.
It just probably never happened even once due to the fact that there's only 200 of them in the game and the second someone learned your PC has it, they'd come and gangrape-gank you for it if they believed they had a chance.
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>>152343807
>To who do you sell it to?
There had to have been a market for them, albeit an extremely small one. What else do you do with a WCI that your guild has no use for? Throw it in storage, and think "Wow, we have a WCI, woo!"?
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>>152343840
>won't it be easier to tie the bonus NPC levels with the bonus item they were rewarded?
It would be easier but I don't think it would make sense with regards to the setting.

There's only 200 World Class Items, I believe. 20 of them are use-once-it-goes-away.

Guild base levels seem extremely pithy compared to the fact that the Shitty Devs made the World Class Items expressly to be crazy-broken shit.
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>>152343807
>It's actually worthless if you're not starting a guild.
Who cares, if you're enough of a maniac genius madman to conquer a dungeon in one go and get its ownership deed you could probably just hock the property off for loot/real-money on future-eBay or wherever such things are sold.
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>>152343807
>It's actually worthless if you're not starting a guild.
How would you clear a dungeon like that if you weren't in a guild? Also they they rewarded with the deed, they could have sold it.

>a WCI would be so limited and also so mundane.
Not all WCIs have powers that rival the twenty. They are just objects that have powers/abilities that bend the conventional rules of the game, aka giving more NPC levels than a dungeon of that size would over wise allow.
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>>152343884
The ToK could just grant the +500 bonus on top of other things. There was that talk of turning Nazarick into a Fortress at the cost of Ainz' levels. Was that ever explained? I mean 'Throne of Kings', giving bonus NPC levels makes perfect sense for it, being able to turn your base into a fortress with it also makes sense. Could just have a passive and active effect to it.
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>>152343859
>there had to have a been a market for them
I highly doubt such a thing as an auction house for WCI existed. Ainz references some sort of market for minerals but we don't even know if that means there was an AH or GE thing or if people literally went around peddling wares and paying NPCs to do so. Even if it did exist, WCI and cashshop items are probably not sellable.

>what else do you do with a WCI that your guild has no use for?
Nothing. Having a WCI in and of itself was a badge of prestige and that's part of why I don't believe it'd be something so specific, WCI should be applicable in theory to almost any character. We haven't heard of one that seems to be useless to anyone who uses it.

>>152343921
>real money
Doesn't sound relevant for in-game terms
>loot
Again people would just kill your dumb ass for showing up with a WCI at all.

>>152343931
>if you weren't in a guild?
What if you were just a bunch of fags going around clearing dungeons for fun?

>>152343939
That's why people think it might be being able to recruit people you've defeated.
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>>152343996
>a bunch of fags going around clearing dungeons for fun?
The reward was the deed plus the bonus of the ToK for clearing it first go.
The bonus reward makes sense in context, you get the deed and the place is better than other guild bases of the same size.

If you had no intention of using a guild base in the first place, then you wouldn't care/would sell the deed after you cleared the dungeon.
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>>152343996
>I highly doubt such a thing as an auction house for WCI existed.
Saying a market exists isn't the same as saying there was an auction house or anything. When I said a 'market', I meant that there had to have been people who sold, or tried to sell, WCIs before. There's also most certainly people who would buy them.

Discussions of that would likely be out of game, and the actual transaction in game would have to be a very secretive thing. Both guilds would have a lot at stake potentially. The guild with the WCI would be trading for a bunch of stuff it found to be the equivalent of a WCI, so the purchasing guild would also be in danger of being robbed. I won't refute that such a deal would be highly risky, but with the game going on for 12 years or something it seems hard to believe that such transactions never took place.
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>>152344109
What about the ToK? Is it just a shitty +500 (and yes it's shitty, considering that it still doesn't make it 3k even)? Is it something else and the +500 is in the deed?
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They got both the 500+ lv and wci because they cleared it in one go which has never happened with a dungeon of that level.

>>152343939
The wci allowed them to keep the dungeon raid bosses.
That's why the players were pissed once they got to the 8th floor.
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>>152344144
Not that guy, but I still stick with my passive/active effect idea. Passive +500 NPC levels to the base it resides in, and an active effect on top of that. Plenty of RPG items do similar after all.
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>>152344134
I'm sure the transactions took place but to use fanfiction as an example (yeah I know >literal fanfiction), how would the BMG go about selling her WCI considering she's alone? More to the point, how would there even be a guarentee that the guild showing up to rob the WCI would even bring their shit?

>>152344186
>The wci allowed them to keep the dungeon raid bosses.
>They got both the 500+ lv and wci because they cleared it in one go which has never happened with a dungeon of that level.
This is specula, do not present it as fact.
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>>152344213
>More to the point, how would there even be a guarentee that the guild showing up to rob the WCI would even bring their shit?
Both guilds would go in expecting to be robbed. They would very likely be armed to the teeth. Both parties would make sure they knew the other party as much as possible before meeting in game.

There could also just be PVP free zones where they could do the transaction without being robbed.
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>>152344213
>This is specula, do not present it as fact.

So is everything in this thread.
Overlord is all about headcanon.
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>>152344277
Don't present it as fact though. Everyone else is adding "I think" or "it'd make more sense" or "I'm guessing".

>>152344269
Were there even PvP free zones? Maybe starter zones?
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>>152344342
>Were there even PvP free zones? Maybe starter zones?
Never established as far as I can recall from all the source material. It would be a highly unusual game to have 0 PvP free zones though. Said zones would likely be based on your race - IE, humans, demihumans, and grotesques. Human only PvP free zones, same for demihuman, and likewise for grotesques. Perhaps some shared demihuman/human PvP free zones. I can't imagine either of them would share a PvP free zone with grotesques though.
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>>152344449
Who knows
I mean YGGDRASIL is a highly unusual game.
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>>152344449
I'm guessing that if you attacked someone in certain areas city guards would get on your case like in RS Classic. If you could fight off the city guards it'd still work.
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>>152344144
>>152343939
There are 2 trains of thought here, one is that the ToK gives the +500 levels another is that the extra levels are tied into the base itself.

Since its never explicitly stated where the +500 levels comes from, we have to ask which option we prefer and why chose one over the other.

I think that the ToK gives the +500 levels as it is a bonus reward to the group that cleared the dungeon on the first try. This gives more weight to the item as a reward, the guild base is owned by whoever has the deed. The ToK belongs to the group that cleared the dungeon on the first try. Thus, it could very well be that the devs intended for the ToK to be taken/destroyed if the deed transferred hands (whether from hostile invasion or other wise), making it a more meaningful reward - the bonus belongs to the group who cleared the dungeon.

>Is it just a shitty +500
Firstly, I don't think that +500 extra NPC is a shitty ability. Second, since it's never stated what exactly the ToK does, it could very well be that it has other even more powerful effects.
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>>152343652

AOG has been a guild since Touch Me dissolved Nine's Own Goal, which at the time had more than just the original nine members in it. The only thing that keeps the guild together is the Guild Weapon, not the base itself. Nazarick could be destroyed but the guild AOG wouldn't be until the staff also met its end.

The current direction of this conversation is bizarre. The YGGDRASIL devs have the same bad personality as 4chan's mods, doing things at their own discretion. We know this because of the poor game balance in YGGDRASIL that was constantly being tweaked. It isn't surprising, like at all. that they'd give AOG bonuses other guilds didn't get because they were impressed by what they did.

I once played a MMORPG where a guy recognized and decoded a secret message, three years after it was created and had gone unnoticed, posted about it on the forums and was given special rewards just for that.
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>>152344638
>Nazarick could be destroyed but the guild AOG wouldn't be until the staff also met its end.
I still find this weird. I'm not disputing it, it was very clearly stated by Ainz in the LN, but it's still just extremely weird that the guild would cease to function without a guild weapon.

I mean it's not like the guild had a weapon from the get go, right? Or does that mean when you make a guild you have to designate a symbol for your guild? Or is that you don't have to, but if you do then destroying said symbol destroys your guild? Which then leads to the question of why even make the symbol, it would just be a highly pompous act purely for the sake of role playing. I guess their guild was big on RP though, a majority vote could have been put through to make one despite that risk.
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>>152344771
>why even make the symbol
Maybe because the guild weapons can be made into very powerful artefacts.
Ainz says that his guild weapon is a divine class item that approaches the power of WCIs.
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>>152344828
Which if destroyed also destroys your guild. It's an extremely risky move.

I have to wonder what would happen if the staff was destroyed though. Presumably all of the minions and POP spawns would lose their defacto loyalty, but would the NPCs as well? Or since they're in the NW would they still remember being loyal, but not be COMPELLED to be loyal?
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>>152344771
It sounds to me like a keystone of some sort, like a phylactery for the guild. It wouldn't make a difference if you don't have things that need to be owned by the guild since all it'd probably do is dissolve the guild screen, you still have your friend's list.
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>>152344866
No reward without risk. I guess if you wanted to min-max the firepower of your guild you would take that risk.

If the staff is broken, the guild would be dissolved, presumably that means anything associated with the guild would be deleted - the NPCs would disappear. Whether that would happen in the NW, I don't know.
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Wouldn't it be nice if there were a side story about past players prior to Ainz's arrival? What I want to see is how the fall out of the Eight Greed Kings began and their battle with one of the Six Great Gods, Surshana.
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Does Ainz have other cash shop items left in stock? Using that instant cast hourglass against Shalltear felt like such a waste
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>>152345076
>Does Ainz have other cash shop items left in stock?
A literal horde
>against Shalltear
>a waste
No it was literally needed against Shalltear, he couldn't survive Shalltear wailing on him when casting a Super Class without the hourglass
Using it against the army was kind of a waste.
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>>152345051
>their battle with one of the Six Great Gods
I don't think that part would be very interesting, probably would just be eight guys curb stomping 1 person.

But yeah, Maruyama should make a twitter story or something about the past players.
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>>152345115

He absolutely shouldn't. The most compelling storylines in Overlord right now are the events of the 6GG, the 8GK, and 13 Heroes and the power level of the Slane Theocracy. I can say very confidently that even with the demon v. undead megafight coming up in Volume 12, it isn't even modestly interesting compared to those storylines. So it would be a huge waste to just spoil things on Twitter.

The thing is, while I do enjoy Overlord I hope Maruyama doesn't go Eiichiro Oda and spend too much time worldbuilding while not delivering anticipated confrontations. I get that the Slane Theocracy is wary of AOG, but we've been waiting for those two orgs to clash since Volume 1.
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>>152345435
>clash
You mean get steamrollered?
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>>152345522
There is only one way for the ST to do anything close to hurting AOG, and that is to slander them and turn their people against Ainz.

AOG isn't even giving them the chance to do that. Whichever volume has AOG going up against the ST is either going to be a gripping tale of the human will to survive against the almighty power of the Supreme Overlord of Death, or 400 pages of torture porn.

Most likely both at once.
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>>152345644
More probable to me that it'll be torture porn than the former. The Sorcerer King will be wiping out Jaldabaoth, who had already been subjugating the Theocracy. This will lead to grudging treaties to Ainz for saving their kingdom, and public opinion of the Sorcerous Kingdom will be at an all time high.
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>>152345847
The biggest and best trigger for that is the knowledge that they brainwashed Shalltear. We're going to reach levels of REEEEEEEEEEEE the likes of which we've never seen before.

Maybe one of Ainz's adventurers talks to the ex-BS members and they let slip news about a "holy relic" that subjugates the wicked.
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>>152345847
>Theocracy
This is the Holy Kingdom, the Theocracy is different.
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>>152345971
Right, my bad. Torture porn is still most likely for the reason >>152345941 pointed out though, Ainz is never going to forgive the people who made him kill Shalltear. I don't think even Editor-san is going to be able to prevent them from reaching a particularly disturbing ending.
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>>152346050
Maybe the Republic/PDL can get off by just being skinned a few times and swearing vassalage to Ainz for attacking Shalltear.
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>>152345644
>gripping tale of the human will to survive against the almihty power of the supreme overlord of death
>gripping tale of the human will to survive against Death
It's like struggling against Time. Death comes for you in one for or another; it will not be denied. Just look at that chess game with death movie.
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>>152345522

We can't say confidently that AOG will be able to steamroll the Theocracy, as even Albedo who is programmed with a massive superiority complex is wary of them.

While the Cardinals were freaking out, part of the problem is they're fighting the elves and have so far missed out on dominating the Catastrophe Dragon Lord. We also don't know the exact ranks of the BS' gear or if any NPCs are left over from the 6GG's guild base.

While the BS Captain and Zesshi are the only demigods in the BS, it would be foolish to think those are the only demis in the entire ST. Likely, Ainz's army and the Pleiades won't be sufficient to take them on. He'll need to use the Floor Guardians which says a lot about how threatening they are.
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>>152346120
Well, it's like a Rocky movie. You know he's going to lose, but the point that he's going the distance.

>>152346121
>He actually thinks the ST has a chance.
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>>152346121
>We can't say confidently that AOG will be able to steamroll the Theocracy
We pretty much can.
The bulk of the BS is confirmed to be utter trash mobs because they have trouble with an equivalent number of DKs, which Ainz can summon twelve of as a spell like ability daily not to mention level 70 undeads four times and level ~20 undeads 20 times.

The Godkind are the only hope...but 'even the godkin' are powerless in front of the magic of the gods.
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>>152346161
They do also have at least one WCI. They could have one or two more.
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>>152346273
It's wholly irrelevant though because everyone of consequence in Nazarick has been given a WCI for their protection. The guild with the greatest number of WCIs after Nazarick had 3, so even assuming Slane has 3 WCI, they're not going to do anything besides do damage (other effects aren't going to apply), and if shit hits the fan Ainz will slap Rubedo's fine ass and say 'go fuck them up' and she'll blush beet red and KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA her way through nations.
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>>152346142

I didn't say that. I merely refuted "steamroll". Unless Nazarick uses the Floor Guardians, it will sustain losses against the ST, be it the form of the Death Knights or even Pleiades. And, using the Floor Guardians is dangerous when Nazarick doesn't know all of the ST's abilities. The Catastrophe Dragon Lord, for all we know, is a Level 85 dracolich, which would be much more dangerous than the brute attacker Zy'tl Q'ae.

Don't forget, not all of the NPCs have World Items and so are protected from Downfall. Imagine what would happen if the ST charms Rubedo and Sebas?
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>>152346121
>We can't say confidently that AOG will be able to steamroll the Theocracy

I haven't been to many Overlord threads lately. Is this some new thing that humiefags have latched onto?

Ainz can just send in his undead army and massacre the ST. Anywhere he senses significant resistance, he'll teleport over and cast Fallen Down - BS will be one-shot.
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>>152346362
Rubedo is speculated to literally be a WCI and if that's the case she's going to be immune to anything but direct damage attacks.

>it will sustain losses
The only credible threat to Pleiades is Zesshi Zetsumei and PDL presuming both of them are Tree tier or higher, which is a stretch but still plausible since the upper limit we have on ZZ's strength is only 'will lose to people spamming Super Tier'. Cocytus was about to 100-0 the tree with a single blow.
Everyone else is literally DK tier, and DKs can be spawned at a rate of twelve daily. If Ainz takes a carriage there alone, by the time he arrives he will have somewhere to the effect of 100 DKs, which will obliterate everyone but the God-Kin.
As for the God-Kin, let's leave ZZ aside and say that Kid Captain is at the level of Narberal, the strongest of the Pleiades SIX STARS, since he MIGHT be stronger than Solution Epsilon. He's going to get his shit kicked in by the six together. As for ZZ? Lastborn is level 100.
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>>152346161
>The bulk of the BS is confirmed to be utter trash mobs because they have trouble with an equivalent number of DKs

DKs are an unusual mid-tier undead, because they have the defensive ability of a Level 40 monster, which surpasses the strength of the non-demigod BS members. But at the same time I wouldn't think DKs offensively are much of a threat to the BS, who have levels in the 30-39 range. I wouldn't expect the BS to struggle as much against more balanced monsters like the Soul Eater.

Ainz likes DKs because, in spite of being mid-tier undeads, they have abilities that are still useful against higher tier opponents. So, I don't think that's a fair comparison.
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>>152346464
>DKs can be spawned at a rate of twelve daily. If Ainz takes a carriage there alone, by the time he arrives he will have somewhere to the effect of 100 DKs
>The Sorcerer Kingdom's passive strength growth is more than 12 small nations daily
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The DKs and Soul Eaters are only mid-tier undead summons, actual high tier undead would presumably be much more powerful.

Like, imagine if he summoned two Eternal Deaths and their AoE passive fuck you aura. They just do donuts through the ST and everyone is fucked.

Plus, who's to say Sebas hasn't received a WCI or that Rubedo isn't a WCI herself?
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>>152346496
They're trash mobs insofar as Ainz Ooal Gown has the ability to summon 12 Death Knights (which is confirmed to be a tough struggle for the Black Scripture) on a daily basis, as well as 20 low tier undead who can harass or do shit like the leveldrain bullshit of wraiths. This is excluding his ability to summon things like Eyeball Corpses or Aeternal Deaths or Pale Riders four times daily which are level 70 or so.
I'm not even letting Ainz fight in any form besides summoning things on the way and sending them over. If Ainz got involved in any form, he could LITERALLY >The Creation the city into a lava field and have Guren gated in to pick off anyone who somehow managed to survive.
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>>152346619
Even Demiurge's Evil Lords can spam hordes of demons (they don't have a time limit, and Demi had enough to flood the Royal Capital with them) to just wear them out with fodder.
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>>152346619
>Creation the city into a lava field
Nah, all he has to do is activate his Despair Aura V and wonder around/teleport.
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>>152346668
I meant as a one-off. If he wanted he could literally just walk through the city and people die from being too close to him.
Which makes me think, it'd be pretty cool if there were a Seraphim player, since one of the abilities of a Seraphim (more like a curse) is that any mortal, or even any lower class angel, who looks at them directly has their soul overloaded and burns up in a flash of holy fire. You could literally enact judgement day as a Seraphim.
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>>152346668
He doesn't even need to do that in person, his Eternal Deaths have a built in Despair Aura V effect in their Aura of Death and Decay.
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>>152346668
>>152346705
>>152346758
Maybe Ainz embraces his inner Chunni, casts fly, activates his Despair Aura and flies around the city pretending to be an Apache helicopter.
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>>152346795
"Pew pew pew pew" *shoots off fireballs and lightning bolts*

"Skull Flight, this is Skull Leader, coming in for an attack run. Pew pew pew pew"
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>>152346758
>>152346668
You guys are forgetting there's 5 level 90 Overlords just lazing around the Great Library, presumably reading and doing some creative writing whenever they're not helping NPCs check out books, Ainz could literally just have them show up one by one and watch Slane despair
>holy fucking shit there's more like him
Also
>imagining NPCs taking out books
>dread wraiths: "do we have a copy of 'an idiot's guide to raising mountain goats', the ones I found keep running out of my pen'"
>overlord Titus: "say no more senpai"
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>>152346554

The location of 10 AOG WCI are known.

-The Floor Guardians have 6
-Ainz has 1
-The throne is on the 10th floor
-2 (presumably of The Twenty) are still in the vault

The Caloric Stone was also a 20, but it was not mentioned among the single-use items kept in the vault, so it's unlikely to be the missing item. In total, NOG/AOG has had control of 13 World Items including 3 of The Twenty during its existence.

Sebas was mentioned as not having one to act as bait in Volume 5.

>>152346554

Normal high-tier undead are only in the Level 50-60 range. There's about a 20 level difference between low, medium, and high tier undead.
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>>152346839
What if Ainz summoned a Seraph Empyrean and told it to "immanentize the eschaton of the Slaine Theocracy"?

The irony would be hilarious.

Also
>creative writing

So they're the ones writing all the porn about nubile maidens with bone polish.
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>>152346875
Except v10 says that most high level undead are level 70, and that by combining uses, he can make level 90 undead.
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>>152346875
High Tier Undead are explicitly level 70 and he can concentrate the summons into two summons of level 90 if he wants.

>>152346883
>seraphim empyrean
The mere existence of something of that order is likely to drill a hole in reality where it stands.
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>>152346839
>>152346883
>Ainz asks the undead in the library what kind of reward they want.
>"I want to learn more about the literature in the NW!"
>5 Overlord class undead wandering the Kingdom/Empire/ST asking directions to the local library.
>Maruyama does a section from the perspective of the country leaders.
>They'll freaking out about the overlords casually asking scared shitless librarians about mundane books.
>"How can there be more of Him!?"
>"How can they be so tame!?"
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>>152346925
>>152346933
>>at least Level 70

Damn well, this wouldn't be much of a fight unless the ST can pull a Shalltear out of a hat.
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>>152347037
>JUST pulling out his hair
>"Why do they want to know about goat farming!?"
>"What scheme is that monster thinking up now!?"
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>>152347092
Raw stats aside, the Eternal Deaths are rogue-type undead with an instant death aura, which suggests they can go at sanic speeds while passively attacking with Despair Aura V.

It's like Project Pluto but with undead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto
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>>152347100
>Jircniv's face when he realizes there are five more Overlords of unfathomable intelligence
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>>152347144
>Jircniv tries to become Saitama by pulling out his hair
>Becomes Hammerhead instead.
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>>152346503
I still have to wonder if there's an upper cap on how many undead he can make. Maybe not a system limit, but a mental limit. Having all those passive connections to your creations has to fuck with the brain a bit.
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>>152347115
>rogue-type undead
Wait, so these things just huddle down in a corner with stealth and setup a debuff for days while you have to hunt it down to turn it off, presumably while dealing with its more direct-combat brethren?
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It seems like a few anons here don't know how the low, mid, and high-tier undead ranking works. It goes like this:

Low: lvl 1 - 30

Mid: lvl 30 - 60

High: lvl 60 - 90
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>>152347329
Yeah, they're thief-type undead.

>>152347328
He's said to be reaching the mental limit in v10, but that's just because there's literally thousands of them running around and they all ping to him.
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>>152347328
He says he's reaching his limit but he's technically able to abandon direct control of the nonintelligent undead or even give them to Crypt Lords or similar entities.
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Who heard the Drama CD already? What's in it?

I just download
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>>152347393
Romeo and Juliet
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>>152347329
>debuff
They get Despair Aura V, meaning they have the ability to constantly proc a Wail of the Banshee-type ID on anyone in range. They could literally turn invisible and woosh through the city and everyone would get their strings cut for no apparent reason.
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>>152347393
Nazarick puts on a play, Ainz is Romeo, everyone fights it out for Juliet
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>>152346839
>there's 5 level 90 Overlords
Are they 90? They're at least 80, but I don't remember specific levels being mentioned in the LN.
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>>152341741
She shouldn't lie about a vampire's natural trait
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>>152347470
I thought it was level 90
Like either way though
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When can we talk about valkyries?
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>>152347492
What's there to talk about?
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>>152347553
Watch as the faggot brings up gender again for the ebin "shitstorm"
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>>152306555
I just wanted it to be known that i thought that was shitty cleavage from the catalog. I'm sorry
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>>152347414
They also get a Despair Aura I effect which debuffs people. Not that flashy compared to DA V but it works on people normally immune to mind affecting abilities and those people are usually immune to instant death too.
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>>152347662
Who the fuck in the Slane Theocracy is going to have instant death countermeasures? I somehow doubt they even have time stop countermeasures.
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>>152347679
Some clerical spells (at the upper end of which the ST can cast) might have things like Death Ward which immunizes against instant death.

The problem is that it's fairly short duration, very few people can cast it, and anyone who can cast it will be a priority target for a level 90 ninja undead.
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>>152347492
>>152347578
What do you think of male valkyries?
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>>152347750
Doesn't fit mythology.
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>>152347750
Why not?
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>>152347750

I get my knowledge of Germanic mythology from Springtime for Hitler, and I can assure you there were no male valkyries. Only male stormtroopers.
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>>152347782
Doesn't really matter, does it? Myths are altered all the time.
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>>152347735
Death Ward is what, tier 4 or 5? That'd be a tier 5 or 6 in the NW which is the upper limit of humanity. And of course you've got the issue of as you said, people sniping the ones who can cast DW
And Death Ward is single-target anyway and lasts on the order of minutes.

>>152347750
>>152347782
>>152347788
>>152347801
epic
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>>152347100
>Ainz notice Jircniv seems confused
>Emperor what troubles you?
>Jirxniv goes overdrive
>Nothing Ainz-dono, I seem to remember our magic schools seems to be short of scrolls to imbue magic
>Ah.. that would be easy, Nazarick found a way to harvest scroll materials easily. That might interest you.
>Easily? That I need to see for myself
>Demi, show the Emperor how we make scroll materials.

>As you wish Ainz-sama
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>>152347801
But male valkyries can be conceived in literature and other forms of media.
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>>152347821
Exactly. Not to mention, very few people actually use death spells which would require Death Ward to defend against them. So almost nobody would learn them since it would be a wasted spell slot for the most part.
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>>152347844
>male valkyries can be concieved
In the same way solid ghosts can be concieved, or light-emitting black holes can be concieved.
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>>152347868
Valkyries being female isn't a central trait. It can be altered.
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>>152347838
>JFW
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>>152347868
There's nothing wrong with male valkyries.
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>>152347735
>>152347821
Not to mention
The
Goal
of
All
Life
is
REEE
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>>152347901
It is a central trait in the same way succubi are always female or hydrogen atoms have one proton. A succubus (male) is an incubus that is called a succubus for metaphoric purposes.

>>152347939
Obviously there isn't anything wrong with a male valkyrie. It just isn't a valkyrie anymore.
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>>152347960
>IT'S NOT A VALKYRIE ANYMORE BECAUSE I SAY SO!!!!

No. Don't be such a lore autist.
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>>152347960
Why are you so autistic?
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>>152347995
It's not a valkyrie because it doesn't meet the criteria for being a valkyrie by the definition of valkyries. You're fundamentally saying that a helium atom is just a hydrogen atom with two protons - you'd be right, but an atom with two protons is not a hydrogen atom anymore.

>>152348024
Because you are an imbecile.
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>>152347960
>>152347995
>>152348024
Here we go again
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>>152348044
One of the retarded ESLs keeps baiting this shit every fucking thread
I guess someone bit.
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>>152348037
How about you try to understand the context of what we're discussing. We're talking about myths, not atoms. Myths are altered all the time. The vampires and werewolves depicted in modern media are very different from their original myths. This does not mean they aren't still vampires and werewolves. There is nothing wrong with male valkyries; they would still be valkyries.
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>>152348064
And the thread was going quite well up until this point..
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>>152348044
>>152348064
>>152348161
You people are lore autists.
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>>152348064

Keep calm. Help is on the way.
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>>152348138
We're talking about a defined term. The key component of valkyries is that they are essentially barmaidens for the Einhrjar and that they are one of a female host. What might change is their number of wings, their actual powers, their line of descent, etc.
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>>152348138
Why the fuck are you talking about valkyries? How is this relevant to Overlord?
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>>152348173
Better than the thread devolving into a retarded argument like a bunch of down-syndrome toddlers.
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>>152348178
Help isn't coming because of the retarded ESLs (not the good ones) never fucking off and because of autists who just want to stir shitstorms baiting every thread
Unless you're a mod who can delete a thread, in which case please do so, our discussion is finished for this thread anyway.
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>>152348221
There is nothing wrong with male valkyries.
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>>152348236
That's not relevant to what I said. Fuck off.
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>>152348186
No, what might change is their gender. And that's okay, because their is no absolute requirement that valkyries be female.
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Basically Ainz will never face any kind of challenge ever unless fighting enemies with auto res. Which seems to be only super high end entities from Yggdrasil.
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>>152348266
There is an absolute requirement though. The key thing that they do is be tavern wenches and lust for Einhrjar dick. You may as well say angels can serve Satan - in which case I mean sure you're just borrowing an name.
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>>152348178
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>>152348221
>OUR DISCUSSION IS OVER BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!!!

No. Kill yourself, lore autist.
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>>152348275
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>>152348206
A while ago in an Overlord thread, someone brought up male valkyries and the thread then descended into a giant flame war by people on the spectrum.
Someone keeps baiting this shit every thread after that.
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>>152348291
This discussion happened months ago. It's surprising how people tired of this retarded shitstorm that you try to bait out every fucking thread are suddenly lore autists.
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>>152348291
The discussion is over because you're a retard. If valkyries can be anything you want then why not just call every fucking species a valkyrie? Legends and myths can change right?
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>>152348313
But you're being a lore autist. Valkyries can be male. Mythology does not need to be strictly adhered to. Why can't you accept that?
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>>152348365
Because I'm not even involved you dumb nigger, I'm tired of your ESL ass trying to bait the discussion I remember you got BTFO in months ago.
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Why do you people even answer to a bait this obvious?
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>>152348384
It's like one guy who put out the bait, and one other guy who bit it.
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>>152348352
>"Valkyries can be male" = "lets call everything a valkyrie!!!"

Why are you lore autists so stupid? You really can't handle valkyrie cock?
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>>152348410
Explain to me in detail why Valkyries can't be anything I want to call a valkyrie. Myths can change.
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Leaving the lore aside let's look at what Ygg was based off.
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Valkyrie_%283.5e_Class%29
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/valkyrie
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>>152348421
The central characterisitcs of the mythological figure in question should at least remain the same.
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>>152348460
What are the central characteristics of the mythological figure? Can you list them?
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>>152348421
You can call your meager stub a penis, that doesn't mean everyone else will.
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>>152348440
Ygg does not strictly follow dnd. Male valkyries can exist.
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>>152348502
Source: Your Ass

>>152348492
>>152348502
Answer >>152348473 please.
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All you lore autists are so fucking stupid. Stop being whiny, triggered cunts and accept that not everyone takes mythology as seriously as you retards do.
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>>152348541
Looks like you're running away.
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>>152348277
Let's shitpost again some other time.
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More mindflayers when
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>>152348548
Valkyries are winged warriors. They have holy powers. A male can easily fit into thay role.
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>>152348520
Why did you quote me >>152348492?
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>>152348599
>warriors
Wrong.

>holy powers
Not always no, only the strongest like Brynhildr.
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>>152348548
LORE AUTISM IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
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>>152348631
Of course it is, do you not know what autism is? You don't even approach me if I want to try.
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>>152348599
Valkyries are female followers of God Odin.
Myths recorded in history as tales venerated by the people of the past.
You saying that Valkyries can be male does not change nor the past nor the myths.
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>>152348617
Myths can be altered. What don't you understand about thag?
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>>152348656
Myths can be altered so I should be able to call anything a Valkyrie.
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>>152348656
Myths is history, history is recorded, unless you've successfully overwritten history - myths can't be changed.
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>>152348648
I'm not seeking to rewrite history, you deluded lore autist. I'm saying there is no problem with creating male valkyries in media. Myths are not strictly adhered to when creating characters.
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>>152348599
A Valkyrie (lit. Chooser of the Slain) is a female figure under the command of Odin who goes to battlefields after the fact and attempts to find powerful warriors who will be useful at Ragnorak.

>>152348707
Yggdrasil has strictly adhered to just about all lore from what we've seen. There is no reason to believe that Valks are somehow the exception even from a gameplay point of view when one considers that D&D also has a metric shitton of gender-restricted classes.
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>>152348707
Then this is not a Valkyrie.
If you shove concept of Angel of War Michael into a nippon joshikokousei - you're just calling it.
It's not Michael.
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>>152348753
What is with you lore autists and these false equivalences? Changing the gender; one single trait, does not mean it isn't still a valkyrie.
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>>152348707
You can call it whatever you like but it isn't the same shit then. You can call an atomic nucleus with six protons and six neutrons whatever the fuck you want but it's Carbon-12, just because you call it Iron-56 doesn't make it so.
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>>152348801
Read this >>152348138
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>>152348790
>changing the proton count, a single trait, does not mean it isn't still the same element
Except the key components of being a valk, allowing for removal from the norse worldsystem, actually includes being female. Being tied to Odin leaves with the norse worldsystem as does Valhalla, but being a girl who is holy in nature does not.

>>152348832
So again, if you can change it however you want, I should be able to call my pet netherland dwarf rabbit a Valkyrie. Myths change all the time.
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>>152348790
Gender is centerpoint of Valkyrie myth.
You can complement certain archetype of women by calling one a Valkyrie but get confusion or a punch in the face if you call a man one.
Because in Norse Myths all Valkyries are female.
They're fanservice to the warriors like 72 virgins to mudslimes.
Media can call whatever they want with whatever name they like.
This does not mean this will be widely accepted.
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>>152348801
You're really comparing objective scientific facts with bullshit fairytales? You lore autists are next level retards.
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I'm glad all of this went on after the thread hit 500 at least.
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>>152348873
Objective scientific facts, because they are defined terms. We defined Carbon-12 as six protons and six neutrons. Valkyries are defined as being female. That's literally all that matters, you could change almost literally anything else about them besides their general holy nature and their general 'strong' nature (not necessarily in a fight but in some way strong) and it'd be a fucking Valkyrie.
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>>152348790
The job of a valkyrie is LITERALLY to give killer blowjobs and titfucks to warriors waiting for the end of the world.
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>>152348864
>This does not mean this will be widely accepted.

Yes, you lore autists will be so triggered and butthurt that someone didn't cater to your retardation.
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>>152348893
It can't be helped
Just imagine if some faggot did this earlier in the thread or worse if some moralfag did it.
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>>152348873
History is science.
Myths are history.
Media shitting on historical vampire and werewolf myths are nothing good either.
A skin-eating vampire is not a vampire because vampires drink blood, a cat polymorph is not werewolf because werewolves turn into wolves, a Valkyrie is not Valkyrie if it's male because Valkyries are female.
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>>152348920
Calling a Valkyrie a male is like calling nymphs male.
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>>152348920
Altering history is always such a good idea.
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>>152348873
Bullshit fairytales are literally the easiest thing to demarcate next to mathematics. 1+1 < 1+1+1 by definition. Valkyrie.getGender() returns Female by definition.
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>>152348943
>I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHETHER SOMETHING IS A VALKYRIE OR NOT REEEEEEE!!!!

Stop being a retarded lore autist. Myths can be altered and there is nothing wrong with doing so. No one cares if you get triggered by that fact.
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>>152348993
>I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS TO DECIDE
Not really, history decides.
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>>152348993
No one cares if you get triggered by the facts of what Valkyries are
Next you'll say that Jotunn can be half a foot tall and Zeus controlled starlight because myths can change.
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Anons, what's the difference?
Male or female valkyrie, it doesn't matter.
The main point is that valkyries are cute! CUTE!
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>Overlord thread
>Male Valkyrie shitposter baiting
>Sit back in chair after a bit and think about current situation
>Sweden are total cucks, LGBT is on the rise
>Valkyrie job is giving blowjobs to warriors waiting for the end of the world
>Maybe modern day Valkyries would be trannies after all
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>>152348956
Jesus, you lore autists are really this fucking dense? We're not talking about re-writing the history books retard, we're talking about changing the myth to suit the purposes of whatever book/movie/whatever media form.
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>>152349030
Fuck off I didn't need that image in my head
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>>152349048
And what is your evidence that Yggdrasil did so when it followed the other myths more or less as close as possible? Fuck's sake even player characters looked like ass without using cash shop items to prettify yourself, if that was even possible in the end.
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>>152349004
Myths can be altered. What don't you understand about that?
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>>152349030
It's true though. Sweden is cucked beyond all recognition, Valkyries would probably be black traps who rape the corpses of the dead.
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>>152349069
So once more, I can call my pet bunny a Valkyrie right?
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>>152349048
>we're talking about changing the myth
Then you're talking about changing the history.
You can call the shit you adapted into media whatever you like, it's not the myth anymore.
Myths are from the past, not the present.
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>>152349069
History can be too.
Jews did it after they won WWII.
You need to rewrite all that books and archeological evidence about Valkyries being female - then we'll talk.
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>>152349048
Then you're just borrowing the fucking name, and since you're changing a key compnent you're literally doing that and nothing more
It'd be like making a lich, except it's not undead, it's not a spellcaster, and it's not rotting away or rotted away. You've gone and removed all the things that make liches lichs.
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>>152349106
>DA JOOS
kill yourself
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>>152349079
>>152349091

Change 1 trait. All the other 99 traits are still in place. You think this makes this an entirely different thing? You lore autists need to stop getting triggered over valkyrie cock.
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>>152349137
The other 99 traits are fluff. A girl with a penis and balls but not ovaries and a pussy is not a girl.
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>>152349121
We're talking about changing 1 trait, retard. Just one.
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>>152349159
And that's the defining trait. A physical ghost is not a ghost. A living zombie is not a zombie. A fleshy skeleton is not a skeleton. A saint condemned to Hell is not a saint. A boy without the XY gene is not a boy.
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>>152349158
Your valkyrie vag is fluff. Stop being so obsessed with lore. No one cares about your inability to understand what artisitc license is.
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>>152349200
So my bunny is a valkyire.
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>>152349200
>nobody cares
>he's been arguing about something he doesn't care about for 100 posts
simply eric
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>>152349210
1 trait. Gender. That's all, lore autist.
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>>152349227
So an incubus is a succubus.
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>>152349220
You've been getting triggered over this for over 100 posts. I think that makes you and all the other lore autists even worse.
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>>152349137
This is the trait Mythological character is centered around.
Valkyries were supposed to be sexual relief for warriors.
We can argue that some of them would like a blowjob from a bearded winged trannie, but most would prefer females.
Which is why the image of Valkyrie was female and this is how it gone down in history.
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>>152349227
>1 trait. That's all, lore autist
>men == women
>>>/sweden/
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>>152349258
Maybe because you're retarded. Imagine someone saying Jotunn are half a foot tall for 100 posts and another person patiently correcting them.
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>>152349227
1 trait.
Species.
Bunny is a Valkyrie now.
I changed the Myth.
Deal with it.
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>>152349227
One trait - gravity. That's all lore autist. The black hole is still a black hole without gravity.
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>>152349278
Obviously, a trait that isn't significant to the original myth.
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>>152349326
Prove to me that species is a significant trait to the original myth.
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>>152349326
The actual species of a valkyrie is acutally, unironically, insignificant to the original myth, since there's no special focus on what species it is. We're told they look like beautiful women but that's it.
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>>152349277
You know how many dozens of threads there have been about people getting triggered by this shit? Believe me, people are butthurt about this.
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>>152349365
If you shit up a thread with your bait of "let's talk about half-foot-tall Jotunn" then people aren't getting butthurt,they're getting annoyed at retardation.
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>>152348897
They don't have to be fucking Valkyries.
But it would please me if they were.
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>>152349326
>Obviously, a trait that isn't significant to the original myth.
The original myth is that Valkyries flew over battlefields and chose valiant warriors
When they got to Valhalla, they'd spend the rest of time until Ragnorak dressed in those Oktoberfest costumes serving mead to the warriors, sucking them off, giving them titjobs, and riding their dicks with literally divine pussies. That's all there is to it.
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>>152349350
>>152349354
Good, so you two agree that myths can be altered and that there is nothing wrong with doing so. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with male valkyries.
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>>152349431
So my pet bunny is a Valkyrie then?
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>>152349439
Male valkyries are a thing, lore autist. Stay butthurt.
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>>152349410
>Die on the battlefield
>Wild Valkyrie appears
>Rays of light, feathers everywhere, divine aura all the shit
>Proceed to caress you and blow you
>That's the shit
>Takes her armor and clothes off
>YFW a dick
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>>152349431
Jesus was a woman and the spear of Longinus pierced her vagina for all our sins.
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>>152349456
So my pet bunny is a Valkyrie? And Ainz Ooal Gown is a Valkyrie?

>>152349459
no
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>>152349456
>>152349431
No, you've got to admit that species is insignificant trait to Valkyries.
As insignificant as gender.
Or no male Valkyries.
I want my bunny Valkyrie.
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>>152343343
It's for easier reading. You'd know this if you've either written something long before like a thesis/book report or have been here long enough to realize that giant walls of texts are often memeposts.
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>>152349467
If Jesus was of God, would He even have an actual gender?
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>>152349430
Cut the bullshit back story fluff, it's worthless. Valkyries have wings and magic. That's all. Male valkyries could easily become a thing.
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>>152349497
>thesis / book report
>not using TeX
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>>152349510
But Valkyries literally don't have need to have wings and not all of them have magic.
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>>152349497
No.
This is for easier reading.
The spacing in reports are configured in text editor you use.

You do not deliberately add spacing rows in thematically unified paragraph.

Without being retarded.
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>>152349528
I ain't here to read your poems, anon.
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>>152349528
What the fuck are you talking about anyway?

>thematically unified paragraph
You don't add linebreaks at all within a paragraph, that's why it's a paragraph.
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>>152349521
The cool valkyries do have wings and magic, so let's stick with that, shall we? Male valkyries are perfectly fine.
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I've been in the Overlord threads but missed the initial male valkyrie thing.

Just ignore the troll. There's funner stuff to talk about.

Anyway it doesn't matter because >>152349027

Such has always been the will of 4chan
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>>152349528
>Without being retarded.
Oh so it's an ESL retard.

>>152349553
That's not a valkyrie anymore. So is my pet bunny a valkyrie? How about my older sister? What about the piece of shit in the toilet? What about my television or Demiurge?
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>>152349528
>>152349544
>>152349548
All you dumb fucks are lore autists. Stop getting triggered over valkyrie cock.
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>>152349553
Only if Bunny Valkyries are too.
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>>152349553
>The cool valkyries do have wings and magic
>IT'S A VALKRIE BECAUSE I SAY SO :DDDDD
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>>152349581
Lore Autism is a good thing and you'd know this if you were a fa/tg/uy, part of /a/, or really any respectable person.
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>>152349608
>autism is a good thing

Spoken like a true lore autist.
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>>152349633
At least I know what I speak of.
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>>152349589
Change 1 insignificant trait. Male valkyries are still valkyries.
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>>152349565
I don't know man, I like the idea these guys are throwing around of a bunny valkyrie at least.
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>>152349662
Change one insignificant trait. Ainz Ooal Gown the Valkyrie is still a Valkyrie.
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>Everything I want to call a Valkyrie is a Valkyrie
>Valkyries are not defined by their gender
>Crush patriarch sexualisation of Valkyries
>A Valkyrie is defined by it's mind not appearance
>All haters are just autists who can't handle a Valkyrie
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>>152349640
No, you don't seem to understand concepts like artistic license.
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>>152349662
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>>152349683
No, you don't seem to understand the concept of Yggdrasil following lore closely and the conept of the gender of a valkyrie being a key component (and one of the only key components) of its identity. Fuck off back to >>>/lgbt/, there's plenty of bulky dudes waiting to ride your cock and serve you mead there.
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>>152349702
>moot
;_;
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>>152349673
If Ainz were a male valkyrie, then yes, he would be a male valkyrie. Are you retarded?
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>>152349499
Who cares, Japanese don't, everything is a novelty to them. "Retsu havu Kingu Arthrur a kawai waifu desu" "Retsu havu 5 yearu oldu girl Hitleru desu". They take concepts, characters of myth and just turn them into fucking little girls and obscure plot devices. It makes entertainment and Diamond dicks but it is also shallow, shows lack of imagination and creativity.
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>>152349718
Maybe he still holds certification rights or something.
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If Ainz used his Wish on a Star ring to wish that Valkyries were male, would all of the Valkyries grow dicks, or would the names of each gender just be swapped? IE, what are called men now would be women, and vice versa.
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>>152349721
So you're telling me that just because the Valkyrie happens to be an Overlord of Death it's still a Valkyrie? Just because the valkyrie happens to be a nonsentient piece of shit in the toliet it's still a valkyrie? Just because my bunny has VALKYRIE written on its carrot stick it's still a valkyrie?
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>>152349708
Male valkyries are still valkyries. You whining does not change that fact.
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>>152349757
I'm not sure that would really parse since it's like wishing that female hairdressers were men.
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>>152349763
My bunny is a valkyrie, you heard it here folks
Kneel before the might of Odin, who owns this Valkyrie.
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>>152349757
No, DM which is world would deny it because it's absolutely logical for it to have a personality.
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>>152349776
Valkyries do not have to be female, lore autist.
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>>152349763
Male girls are still girls.
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>>152349800
You don't need to have personality to make decisions, but there's no reason to deny that one - anyone with the Valkyrie class would just grow a cock.

>>152349803
Men do not need to have the XY chromosome, biology autist.
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>>152349803
Girls do not have to be female, cis scum.
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>>152349758
If Ainz were a valkyrie then he would be a valkyrie. Are you genuinely retarded?
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>>152349721
Women are Valkyries and men are Einherjar.
Ainz would be a badass Einhejar, if he wasn't an average typical salaryman.
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OMFG, here we go again.
It's the same autist, I assume.
At least I abstained from replying him this time.
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>>152349838
But if a Valkyrie were an Overlord it's still a Valkyrie?
Again you are literally saying that if a woman had XY genes she's still be a woman. No. That's not how the definition of woman works.
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>>152349843
>Einhejar
Then Shalltear magical double have a dick?
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>>152349843
Einherjar don't TECHNICALLY need to be male, since there's nothing barring legendary shieldmaidens from getting in.
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>>152349735

At this point it's just taking names and costumes, not even the myth or understandings associated with them.

Overlord, at least, shows a clear understanding of D&D and its meta. By contrast it feels less confident in its MMO roots, which is how it should be. The New World is a D&D campaign, starring characters ripped from an MMO. The DM lets their MMO skills and abilities work as they originally did when they don't contradict, and everything else is translated over into the new system.

The Fate series is a bigger offender in this regard, completely rewriting the history of Gilgamesh, Arthur and Medusa.

Yet, that's not even as bad as something like Classicaloid. Did you know Ludvig van Beethoven, who went by Beetho for short, is a huge fan of the Japanese dish gyoza? Shit, I didn't. That's fucking awesome.
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>>152349864
What is with you lore autists and the false equivalences. I'm talking about making slight alterations to a bullshit fairytale, not re-writing biology or whatever idiocy you retards are spewing.
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>>152349902
>rewriting the history of Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh' myth is actually on point as fuck for the most part.
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>>152349913
But changing gender is a biological change. Is a woman still a woman if she is in fact a man?
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>700 posts
Simply eric
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>>152349945
It was going pretty smoothly right until 500. At least he waited until then, yeah?
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>>152349916
>Gilgamesh
>Slender bishounen in golden armor
>on point
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>>152349928
Why don't you use some brain cells, lore autist. We're not talking about valkyries undergoing a sex change, we're talking about a geuine male-born XY valkyrie. What is so difficult to understand about that?
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>>152349973
>the history of
I mean we don't actually know what the historical one looked like and Civ VI is an abomination do not post it.
The actual myth is followed pretty well, unlike Arthur's which is 'hurr le perfect king'.
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>>152349990
So a geniune male-born woman.
Sweden YES.
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>>152349990
>geuine male-born XY valkyrie.
>male-born
>born by male
>XY valkyrie
>male women are women
>>152349996
We know he was strong af and also couldn't have blonde hair and pale skin.
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>>152349996
>>152349973
>>152349962
>>152349945
You people are lore autists. Get triggered, retards.
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>>152349916

The real Gilgamesh didn't own the prototype weapons from all seven continents and so owns every magical weapon that ever existed in human history.

Gil's biography has been expanded to be more on-point in more materials, but if you just focus on stay/night it's bullshit. Medusa's background from hollow/ataraxia is bullshit.
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What's wrong with having male valkyries be a thing?
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>>152349897
This faggot forgot to add the word "Typically" at the end of his own post. Valkyries are typical male fantasy from the viking age where men who die in the battlefield simply imagine that they want to be ushered into Valhalla by a hot babe that's also a warrior. Shield maidens probably had the oposite ideas but since most of them did not care to write them down. Historically only women mentioned as Valkyries. Valkyrie came to have a feminine association to it. You can have a Trap Valkyrie but if you want a 100% manly man, one needs to rename it to something like Valkyrion.
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>>152350027
>lore autists
You mean someone who disagrees with you?
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>>152350048
Same thing as with male women.
It's disgusting and unnatural.
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>>152350026
>We know he was strong af
Yeah but I mean when he deadlifts an axe weighing sixty stone to take people down, it actually makes him less buff in my own mind because nobody can lift sixty stone as a weapon with one hand.
FSN Gilgamesh is skinnyripped anyway and as for his skin and hair color he's a fucking 2/3 god.

>>152350029
The GoB doesn't work that way, it's conceptual. The mythical Gilgamesh owned 'the world's treasures', but the reason he has shit he didn't even have is because he basically copyrighted being a hero.
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>>152350053
No, I mean someone who doesn't understand what artisitc license is. Like you.
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>>152350048
Because it's self contradictory. It's like having a negative positive number, a female man, a black hole without gravity.
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>>152349902
This anon agrees with you.
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>Myths can be altered
Wrong point. True believers of Odin and co. are gone centuries ago. Scandinavian mythology is unchangeable part of history now and any variation of it is kind of fanfic.
Maybe it's too late but i offer stop answering him since this post and ignore.
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>>152350086
You've been dodging the responses that kill your dumb ass this entire time.
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>>152350083
>he's a fucking 2/3 god.
Good point.
The whole purpose of his epos was to become 3/3 god but he got consolation prize instead and fucking lost it too.
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>>152350072
All valkyries are unnatural. No one cares about you getting triggered. So is there really a problem? Doesn't seem like there is one.
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>>152350110
>True believers of Odin and co. are gone centuries ago
Someone post a picture of some Aryan Neopagan
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>>152350123
You still did not allow my Bunny to be Valkyrie anon.
Species is insignificant trait for mythological creatures.
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>>152350123
So there's nothing wrong I guess with having a real number that is both greater than and lesser than zero.
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>>152350124
>implying neonazis are anywhere near nazis too
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>>152350111
No one has killed my argument because no one has put forth anyone valid reason as to why male valkyries shouldn't exist.
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>>152350159
muh true believer in muh paganism :DDD
the worst part is most of the chucklefucks never even read poetic edda, as butchered as that might be itself

>>152350165
Because it contradicts the core definition of a Valkyrie. If you think that the 'myths can change', then sure - as long as you admit that everything in the world is a valkyrie, since nothing is more important to a valkyrie than its gender.
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>>152350165
>reason that I don't recognize as valid are invalid
>my argument is still undefeated because of that
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>>152350158
But there's no contradiction with having a valkyrie be male.
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>>152350086
You don't know anything about me.

And you can call anyone whatever you want. The problem arises when you try to impose your vision on others. People don't have to agree with your autistic interpretation.
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>>152350165
You didn't put forth any good reason why male Valkyries should exist either.
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>>152350188
That's not what I asked. Can you find me a real number that is both greater than and lesser than zero? The answer to this question is also the answer to the question of whether male valkyries make sense.
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>m-muh lore autists are b-bullying me ;___;
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>>152350159
>NAZI > N A Z I > A N Z I > A N I Z > A I N Z > AINZ
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>>152350185
The only reason that has been provided is: lore lore lore. But myths can be altered and that's avery common practice which most people aren't bothered by. So is there an actual valid reason as to why male valkyries shouldn't exist?
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>>152350229
Well I mean to the rest of the world that's pretty much what he is
If you serve under him you are part of the Masterrace
If not, then he requires lebenstraum.

>>152350234
You avoided a more difficult point again.
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>>152350229
Bakana
>>152350234
Burden of proof.
You need to prove that male Valkyries have right to exist in contrast to mythological Female ones.
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>>152350234
I don't recognize that reason as a valid one.
Male Valkyries is bullshit.
What are you going to do about it?
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>>152350194
Because why not?
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>>152350234
>is there an actual valid reason as to why male females shouldn't exist?
If you replace every instance of Valkyrie with Woman, this unironically sounds like something straight outta Kotaku.
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>>152350276
Burden of proof.
We've got historical evidence about Scandinavian revering female Valkyries and none for males.
You need to provide valid reason for male Valkyries to be considered a thing.
So far you failed to provide one.
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>>152350199
But there's no contradiction with having a valkyrie be male.
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>>152350234
Nope: >>152350199
You try to impose your vision on others. That's the problem.
So my point still stands: "lore autists" = "people who disagree with me."
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>>152350276
You're the one saying they should exist in defiance of their definition, their mythology, their purpose, and what we have seen to be true in Yggdrasil and the system it uses as basis, D&D. Proof is on you.

>>152350305
That's not what I asked.
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>>152350305
No contradiction is no proof.
Historical evidence backs up existence of Female Valkyries in Norse myths.
What evidence back up existence of Mythological Male Valkyries?
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>>152350316
The first guy you quoted isn't me you dumbass, I'm agreeing with you.
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Serious guys, an OL thread suddenly turned Valkyrie dick.

Are we really that bored.
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>>152350305
>But there's no contradiction with having a valkyrie be male
Like besides the part where Valkyrie.getGender() invariably returns "female"?
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>>152350234
>But myths can be altered
So my bunny and everything else in the world is a Valkyrie.
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>>152350352
Shut up and hit that counter, we need at least 800 posts before bumplimit.
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>>152350319
But there is no contradiction.

>>152350300
People can create whatever character they like. No proof is required for that since nothing is being claimed.

>>152350263
Female valkyries don't exist either. So why not male valkyries?
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Holy Moly first time seeing over 700+ replies in an overlord thread before...
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>thread

Its been fun seeing you all 3 being triggered throwing shit at eachother. Till next time fags.
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>>152350384
>People can create whatever character
>No proof is required
Then this is fanfic, not a Myth.
Myths are history, fanfics are present days.
>Female valkyries don't exist either.
They exist in history as mythological creatures.
Male Valkyries don't.
Male Valkyries is modern day fanfic.
Fanfic is not a myth.
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>>152350363
Valkyries don't have to be female.
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>>152350384
>But there is no contradiction.
That is not what I asked.

>People can create whatever character they like.
Burden of proof is on you for this, since in Yggdrasil we're told that there are many requirements and prerequisites for everything and most of them aren't even publically displayed. You speak in direct contradition to the source material.
>No proof is required for that since nothing is being claimed.
You claim male valkyries make sense in defiance of the definition of valkyries, mythological representations of valkyries, the mythological purpose of valkyries, and the fact that the only valkyrie we've seen in YGG is female, and that in D&D, the basis of the system, "Gender: Always Female".

>Female valkyries don't exist either. So why not male valkyries?
So my bunny and everything else in the world is a Valkyrie?
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>>152350433
That doesn't mean they can be male.
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>>152350433
And we´re back to step one
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>>152350433
Burden of proof is on you.
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>>152350433
Sure, and women don't have to be women either.
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>>152350433
>Maximize Magic: Retardation
>Triplet Maximize Extended Magic: Logical Fallacy
>Super Tier Autistic Magic: Circular Logic
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>>152350456
Tell me why someone can't create a male valkyrie?
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>>152350433
I guess men don't need to be XY
Sweden YES.
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>>152350488
We've been doing that for the past 250 posts, go read
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>>152350488
Because male woman is a man.
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How the fuck are we still on page nine
Did the mods do some retarded shit to the thread?
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>>152350442
>LN said something something requirements
>therefore all Valkyries must be female!

What's with your shitty logic?
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>>152350488
Because the prerequisite for being a Valkyrie is to have a pussy and nice titties and lack a cock and ballsack.
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>>152350548
Good job ignoring all my other point, but even that one point is better than your no points.
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>>152350542
Valkyrie = wings + magic

Males can have that shit. Why are you being so autistic?
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>>152350580
>Valkyrie = wings + magic
Valkyries need neither wings nor magic.
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>>152350433
Just did a Google search for male valkyries. Did not find even 1 image. So to cure your autism i say this. Valkyries don't have to be female, but they ARE.
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>>152350487

We need Australia power now. Only that power can stop this.
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>>152350580
>Valkyrie = wings + magic
Proof or didn't happen.
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>>152350573
There is no contradiction.
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I use the seven world class items
Spear of /b/
Shield of /pol/
Helm of [s4s]
Pissbottle of [r9k]
Microphone of /soc/
Breastplate of /v/
Greaves of /gsg/
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>>152350591
People can create male valkyries, retard. Also, look again. There are pictures of male valkyries.
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>>152350617
There is a contradiction. Wow look at me and my flawless reasoning. By the way, I refuse to provide my logic and will not provide evidence, therefore you cannot say I am wrong. :DDDDDDD
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>>152350433
And people don't have to agree with you. It's your interpretation.
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>754
Muh cancer.
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>>152350655
>754
It's actually 760+
We've reached /vg/ tier.
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>>152350604
That's literally what it says in the myth.
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>>152348599
Yes, a male can certainly "fit" into that.
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>>152350617
No contradiction does not equal to proof.
>>152350637
Men can call themselves women.
Doesn't mean they are one.
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>>152350669
>Men can call themselves women.
>Doesn't mean they are one.
But anon
SWEDEN
YES
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>>152350667
>Valkyrie are female followers of Odin
That's literally what it says in the myth.
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>>152350667
>That's literally what it says in the myth.
No it doesn't. The myth is >>152349430, which while not specifying either wings or magic, does specify being female.
Get btfo.
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>>152350669
There is no problem with having valkyries be male.
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>>152350637
I can't see 3D.
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>>152350701
There is a problem with having valkyries be male.
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>>152350708
Who said anything about 3D? 2D male valkyries can be a thing.
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>773
Jesus fucking christ if you want to fap to your fucking male valkyries the fuck off and do so
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>>152350701
Same problems as men calling themselves women.
It's disgusting and objectively wrong.
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>>152350701
>there is no problem with having women be men
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holy shit how is this thread still alive
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>>152350715
What's the problem?
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>>152350742
Nobody knows, we're still on page fucking nine. I don't understand what hiro has fucking done
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>>152350742
>777
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>>152350751
>what's the problem
Valkyries can't be male.
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>>152350742
There's no male Valkyrie to take it to Valhalla.
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>>152350731
No one cares if you're triggered by it. You can just kill yourself. Is there any genuine reason as to why male valkyries shouldn't exist?
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>>152350724
They can, but they are not.
Now back to main topic. Lets make bets everyone, in which Volume will Albedo stop being a fucking virgin?
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>>152350779
More like the battle isn't over so the Valks aren't showing up
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>>152350789
Is there any genuine reason as to why male Valkyries should exist?
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>>152350789
>No one cares if you're triggered by it
No one cares if you're triggered by it.

>You can just kill yourself.
You can just kill yourself.

>Is there any genuine reason as to why male valkyries shouldn't exist?
Is there any genuine reason as to why male valkyries should exist?
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>>152350770
Why not?

>>152350803
Yes. Artistic license.
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>this fucking thread
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>>152350826
>Why not?
Because valkyries can't be male.

>Artistic License
>women can be men because of artistic license
SWEDEN YES
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>>152350826
>Why not?
Why yes?
>Yes. Artistic license.
>2+2=5 because it's my art.
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>>152350826
>Artistic license
My bunny is now a Valkyrie because of artistic license.
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>>152350826
>male Queens
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>>152350835
We're talking about bullshit fairytales, not overwriting real world biology. Why are you lore autists so fucking stupid?
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That's why D&D is a game for faggots.
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>>152350863
We're talking about myths, myths are history, history is science.
Male Valkyries is fanfic.
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>>152350863
That fairytale includes being female as part of its definition
Jotunn can be half a foot tall because of artistic license and still be Jotunn instead of something that just happens to be called Jotunn
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>>152350835
>>152350837
>>152350851
LORE AUTISM IS CANCER
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>>152350891
So 2+2=5 if it's my art, right?
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>>152350876
>D&D is a game for faggots
>a game that makes wenches and cockriders be 100% female is a game for faggots as opposed to a game where people who are tasked by the gods with sucking your cock can be male
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You faggots always amazes me a simple talk about Valkyries turned into a shit flinging catastrophe
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>>152350879
All of mythology is fanfic, lore autist.
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>>152350837
I'm sure an artist could very easily draw two 2's together to make a 5. You're absolutely right!
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>800+

>>152350891
So my bunny is a valkyrie right?

>>152350905
You're the one who baited.
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>>152350911
>2+2 = 5
>literally said 2+2 = 5
Is this a joke? Two plus two equals five for extremely large values of two or something?
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Someone nuke the thread pls.
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>>152350908
Mythology is history of the past.
History is science.
Your Male Valkyrie fanfic will be myths in 500 years if you manage to shitpost yourself into history.
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>>152350905
>>152350909
>>152350911
What's wrong with male valkyries?
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>>152350943
What's right about them?
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>>152350900
Sorts of faggots.
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>>152350911
That doesn't make 5 result of addition between 2 and 2.
That makes it a fanfic.
Male Valkyries exist in fanfic.
Female Valkyries is myth, myth is history.
History cannot be changed in modern days unless you win a war and rewrite it like Jews.
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>>152350943
That they're not Valkyries.
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>>152350911
Drawing is not the same as the mathematical operation of addition.
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holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck die please die faster
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>>152350959
So what you're saying is we need to let this autist rewrite history so that Valkyries are now men?
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>>152350951
Everything.

>>152350959
Myths are altered all the time, retard. Mythology is nothing more than fanfic of the past.
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>>152350986
No, it means we need to holocaust this fag
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>>152350986
I'm telling him condition for his fanfic to become a myth.
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>>152350993
>Everything.
Nothing.

>Myths are altered all the time, retard
So my bunny is a valkyrie? Yes or no answer - you do not have the right to speak otherwise and be taken as anything but an imbecile.
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>>152350993
>Myths are altered all the time
Prove this.
>Mythology is nothing more than fanfic of the past.
Yes, it's recorded and sealed.
Holy Scriptures are fanfic but the canon is sealed until next reformation.
You're not reformation of Norse Myths.
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>>152351008
What is your bunny?
>>
Sane person: I believe writers snd artists should have the freedom to adapt myths however they like.

Lore Autist: WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY HURRRR DURR

Why are lore autists this retarded?
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>>152351033
A netherland dwarf.
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>>152351033
A Valkyrie.
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>>152350993
Can we have mammal Dragons now?
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>>152351035
>Sane person: I believe writers snd artists should have the freedom to adapt myths however they like.
Yeah that's pretty fucking retarded, you'd be borrowing the name and nothing else.
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>>152351035
>adapt myths
Not change them.
It's not a myth anymore if you changed it.
Because you can't put it back in history.
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>>152351021
Read this >>152348138
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>>152351044
>wanting more scalies porn than internet already have
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>>152351035
Sane person: I believe that writers and artists should conform to the myths that they depict within reason in order the keep the essence of the myth intact
Retard: HURR DURR WHY MUH ARTISTIC LICENSE MEN = WOMEN STOP OPPRESSING ME
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>>152351063
Read this >>152351050
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>inb4 1000
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>>152351038
In that case, the answer would be No.
>>152351040
Your proofs?
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>>152351089
It's my art.
My Bunny is a Valkyrie in my fanfic.
Therefore Bunnies can be Valkyries.
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>>152351067
>WRITERS AND ARTISTS SHOULD CONFORM TO MY TASTES AND PREFERENCES OR ELSE A VALKYRIE ISN'T A VALKYRIE

Are you really this retarded?
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>>152351108
How do I supposed to understand what your bunny is a valkyrie?
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>Valkyries are male
>Momon is human Hero
>Narberal is genius
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>>152351046
>People should not have freedom of expression

Are you really this retarded?
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>>152351128
I don't care.
It's my art.
Bunnies can be Valkyries you bunnyhater scum.
Get triggered you loreautist.
>>
The fuck is going on here?
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>>152351154
But that's my vision. I haven't got any hints about bunny-valkyrie.
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>>152351154
What's wrong with male valkyries?
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>>152351153
Freedom of expression should be limited to subjective topics.
Genders are biology, biology is science.
Genders are defined by biology.
Myths are history, history is science.
Valkyrie gender is defined by history.

Going against science because of freedom of speech is libtard autism.
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>>152351179
Why would I care about your lore autist vision?
In art a Bunny is a Valkyrie therefore bunnies can be Valkiries.
This is fact and you can't do anything about it you hater.
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>>152351172
What do you think about male valkyries?
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>>152351204
Nothing.
No point thinking about something that doesn't exist.
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The best thing is that there already is a male Valkyrie in Overlord.
It's Holy Lord class.
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>>152351182
Myths = Bullshit fairytales

Myths are not science, no matter what kind of mental gymnastics you use to convince yourself otherwise.
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>>152351227
But they can exist. There's nothing wrong with male valkyries.
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>>152351235
Fairytales from 1000 years ago are history.

You can't change myths, no matter what kind of mental gymnastics you use to convince yourself otherwise.

You can create new bullshit fairytales and if they spread wide enough - they will be regarded as myths 500 years in the future.

You can also write like a faggot with dumb spacing.
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>>152351202
But I see bunny, not bunny-valkyrie. But if you give me information what your bunny is a valkyrie, then your bunny might be a valkyrie in my vision.
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>>152351256
There is nothing right with them either.
Which is a condition for them to exist in the first place.
Nothing is wrong with concept of God.
Doesn't mean God exist.
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>>152351281
Why should I care for what you see?
It's my art, not yours.
Why should my art be defined by your vision?
In my vision a Bunny is a Valkyrie therefore Bunny Valkyries exist.
Refute me faggot.
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>>152351276
People can adapt myths however they like, retard. No one's talking about rewriting history, you delusional lore autist.
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>>152351287
I'm talking about them existing in fiction. People can create male valkyrie characters.
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>>152351309
>People can adapt myths however they like
That doesn't make their adaptation actual myths.
That made them fanfics based on myths.
Myths are by definition a thing from the past.
Present day myth is not a myth, it's a rumor or urban legend.
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>>152351331
People can create Male Valkyries as characters although it would be dumb as fuck.
That doesn't make what those people create a myth neither it makes Male Valkyries a myth.
It makes it an adaptation of a Myth, a fanfic.
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>>152351338
Yes, which means a male valkyrie is still a male valkyrie.
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>>152351371
In a retarded fanfic - maybe.
Not in Mythology.
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>>152351362
Why would it be dumb to create a male valkyrie?
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>>152351362
Ok. So then, do you mean female valkyries exist because they are a myth?
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>>152351395
No, it would still be mostly accurate to the myth.
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>>152351401
Because Valkyrie is a female so you're not creating male Valkyrie.
You're creating male equivalent of Valkyrie.
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>>152351438
No, I'm talking about creating a male valkyrie. What's the problem?
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>>152351401
Because vampires suck blood, werewolves turn into wolves and valkyries fuck warriors.
Unless you want to start another flame about females being capable of being soldiers or gay soliders being a major part of military - we will have to stop at warriors being males and Godly followers that descend to pleasure them sexually - a females.
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>>152351426
I mean female valkyries exist in myths.
Male Valkyries don't.
Male Valkyries can exist in fanfic based on myth.
That does not make this fanfic a myth.
>>152351429
No it would not, see >>152351462
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>>152351459
Your DNA.
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>>152351462
An artist can adapt a myth however they'd like.
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>>152351459
Because Valkyrie is a female.
You don't have male nuns, you have monks.
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>>152351501
That doesn't make his adaptation historically accurate myth.
It's a fanfic.
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>>152351494
XY valkyrie. What's the problem?
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>>152351505
> you have monks.
Actually in Chan and Zen tradition history few females were accepted as monks but that's beside the point.
>>152351522
None, It's just not a Valkyrie.
It's a winged magical dude.
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>>152351522
valkyrie needs XX so you just made XXY valkyrie
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>>152351512
It doesn't have to be 100% accurate to still be considered a valkyrie.
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>>152351535
No, it's a valkyrie.

>>152351542
Nope, just xy. It's an XY valkyrie.
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>>152351543
It doesn't need to be anything if it's a fanfic.
But it will not immediately become a myth regardless of the contents and character traits.
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>>152351564
>No, it's a valkyrie.
You can call it a valkyrie if you want.
This does not change the fact that Valkyries are objectively females.
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>>152351567
Become a myth? What are you talking about?
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>mods just purged 2 threads

We're still alive.
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>>152351590
Mythological Valkyries are females, that's a history and a fact.
You can call your cat Valkyrie, that won't make it a Valkyrie but you can still call it that.
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>>152351585
Myths can be adapted with slight alterations. A male valkyrie is still a valkyrie.
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What the heck with a "myth" criteria?
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>>152351595
which threads did they purge? Probably loli threads again
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>>152351616
Adapted myth is a fanfic.
A male valkyrie in a fanfic is a fanfiction.
>>152351631
Fairytales recorded in history or scriptures.
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>>152351616
Just like male amazons are still amazons.
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>>152351615
Making a slight alteration to the original myth does not mean that a valkyrie isn't a valkyrie anymore.
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>>152351616
>slight alteration
Male succubi.
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>>152351652
You don't fucking understand
Valkyrie includes being female. It isn't a 'slight' alteration, it's breaking the entire concept of being a valkyrie
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>>152351652
That means it's a fanfiction character, not a mythological creature.
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>Valkyrie (Male)
There, I just solved all of your problems.
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>>152351644
Why do I need a myth for male-valkyrie?
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>>152351652
>slight alteration
>"I'm gonna take those female servants of Odin and make them male for no reason."
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>>152351674
Kill yourself, the (male) meme is the shittiest fucking meme I've ever seen and I've seen the unicycle frog
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>>152351667
No, it still adheres to the myth.

>>152351665
How? Valkyries being female isn't a central part of the myth.
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>>152351652
>freeing a slave doesn't mean he isn't a slave anymore
What the fuck?
>>
>>152351688
>How? Valkyries being female isn't a central part of the myth.
Holy fucking shit it's like you refuse to actually fucking read the myths. >>152349430. They are literally and EXPLICTLY said to be ALL FEMALE.
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>>152351687
>Mare (Male)
>>
I want this thread to die I so can finally rest in peace please
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>>152351688
You mean like X virgins waiting for you in heaven being females isn't a central part in Islam myths.
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>>152351697
Except valkyries don't have to be female.

>>152351710
Myths can be altered.
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>>152351674
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>>152351688
>No, it still adheres to the myth.
Pleasing warrior waiting for the end of the world?
Male warriors?
Male Valkyrie?
Pleasing?
Are you a fag?
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>>152351734
What OP pick do you prefer?
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>>152351743
>Myths can be altered.
And so you lose all track of what is needed to be a Valkyrie, and therefore everything and everything is a valkyrie.
>>
>>152351748
Good job, now that faggot is going to spam this image every thread too
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>>152351736
Do the girls get boytoys or am I retarded? Not him, just wondering
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>>152351769
>you lose all track of what is needed to be a Valkyrie

Changing one trait means a valkyrie isn't a valkyrie anymore? I don't think so.
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>900
900
>900
900
>900
900
>900
900
>900
900
>900
900
Fucking God in Heaven hear my plea
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>>152351780
Still better than papa bone threads.
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>>152351789
It's Islam, females don't go to heaven.
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>>152351761
Who said anything about pleasing warriors? Are you a fag?
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>>152351795
See >>152351761
You changed the purpose of the character.
The original purpose was to sexually please male warriors.
You are a fag if you think that Valkyries can be male.
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>>152351795
Except as I said here >>152351710, the gender of the valkyrie is the most central part of being a valkyrie. If you change the gender then you should also be able to change anything and everything else with no issue whatsoever ergo everything is a valkyrie. If myths can be changed, and the gender is changeable, then everything about the myth is changeable. Contrapositively, if anything is unchangeable, then the gender is also unchangeable, ergo valkyries must be female. This is a dichotomy problem - either only women are valkyries, or everything under heaven is a valkyrie.
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>>152351804
Aren't they supposed to have 41 females if they have a good karma?
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>>152351823
>Who said
Myth said.
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>>152351823
>Who said anything about pleasing warriors?
The central identity of a valkyrie?
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>>152351832
What's wrong with male valkyries? No lore bullshit, no one cares. What's the actual problem? Are you lore autists really so triggered by the idea of valkyrie cock?
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>89 IPs
Literal cancer. Fucking kill yourselves, post-2010 scum.
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>>152351864
>No lore bullshit
So you throw every aspect of what character is supposed to be in the lore and just call whatever you want a Valkyrie?
My cat is a Valkyrie then.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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