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T minus one hour and 45 minutes until the new Zestiria episode airs.

I completely forgot what happens after they reach Lastonbell in the game besides fighting Sergej and eventually getting the temples after Pendrago and it looks like they're gonna do their own thing already anyway.
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>one hour left
>no one cares
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I guess I can just post girls until the episode starts.
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>>152268916
I care. It's still too soon anyways.

Edna will make me care more though.
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Is bilibili working? I only get a black screen with two anime girls.
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>first ep of s2
>removed alisha
>everyone sucking rose's cock
>fujoshi still don't care because not enough meebo

being ufotable is suffering
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>>152269457
Works fine for me
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Rose is dogshit.
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>>152269572
Rose is a handsome devil.
10/10 would let myself get stabbed by.
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>>152269172
I'll join in
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>>152269457
neet is on
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Kaze no Uta music video again.
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Is this guy singing along?
He's terrible.
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>>152269508
It's their own fault for not learning their lesson last time.
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>>152269508
>being ufotable is suffering
Anyone retraded enough to not realize who thye should have pandered to and how by now deserves the suffering
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>leaves at evening
>comes back at dawn
She's terrible at these assassination things. It shouldn't have taken this long
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>>152270210
>Meebo is not happy at his lack of screen time
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Sergej the cutest
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>even Sergei is Team Rose
What the fuck is ufo doing? Do they not know what people hate?
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Sergei x Rose OTP
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>>152270278
He's too pure. He only wanted to apologize for yesterday.
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>>152268208
Hope they stop licking rose' clit in this episode.
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>inb4 Rose killed a puppet and that captain is the real bad guy
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I take it from the screencaps this is still the Rose show, with little to no screentime for the others, much less bait for the fujos?

Ufotable must be trying to sink themselves
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>>152270210
And here we have the characters who are all more popular and relevant than Rose getting sidelined.

Ufotable deserves their shit sales.
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>>152270461
They'll fuck up Touken Ranbu, watch.

Though at least it will make companies aware of the fact that it's Ufotable that's the problem, not the IP.
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>>152270461
Nah, just no one cares to post Sorey or Mikleo caps.
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>>152270520
Touken Ranbu has a different director.
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>>152270364
>they still putting Rose on pedestal
really ticks my blastia off
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>>152270604
But is using the same in house writers, they're fucked.
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>>152270251
Rose a cute! A cute!
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>>152270614
It's like the Ufotable has been living under a rock.
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>>152270626
We still don't know who is the series composer. I don't think the studio has writers that take charge of an entire series anyway.
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ED
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>The ending looks cooler than the OP
Why
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>Zaveid joins Alisha
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?????
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>>152270701
They do, in fact they're using their in house writers for Zestiria.

Considering how they also fucked up God Eater, at this point it's foolish to be optimistic about Ufotable.>>152270706
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The ED sounds and looks way better than the OP.
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>>152270520
>yfw they include female characters and left all the boys, from the mediocre to the best one being irrelevant background characters
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bouya
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Ufo making Alisha and Rose more relevant than the actual MC.
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>>152270278
They ruined Sergei. What the hell were they thinking?
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This episode's rating
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Fuck you. Sergej was great and is going to get some actual focus than be a throwaway character.
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>>152270278
>hoping sergey paired to alisha since they both will do the job on the other end together
>get paired with rose instead
what were they thinking exactly?
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>>152270764
Interesting, Hikaru Kondo himself is indeed handling the script. Curious that the studio founder himself would bother with such a role. Honestly I don't give a shit if the show panders to fujos since I'm not one and so far Zestiria is just an inoffensive generic JRPG tale so it's no big deal.
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>>152270909
OT3
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>>152270755
Two outsiders together.
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>>152270815
>alisha is there
true nakama
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>>152270848
And they'll once again feel the burn when their BD sales tank.

>two irrelevant waifu characters cause trouble for the game
>neither waifu are really popular
Ufotable
>let's focus on them
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>>152270975
>>152270791
>>152270755
This actually makes a bunch of more sense over Zaveid suddenly being there when Dezel dies to replace him.
Since Alisha is going to get her purify Ladylake arc with Maltran shenanigans she needs a Seraph. And Uno is too much of a non character to use.
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>>152271010


Jesus you are the biggest sperg I've seen in a while and I've been in threads with XV-KUN
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>>152270916
>Hikaru Kondo himself is indeed handling the script. Curious that the studio founder himself would bother with such a role.
Which makes it worse because it's essentially showing that their incompetence is from the very top.

You'll see the problem with focusing on Alisha and Rose when you get to the ending.
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>>152271089
I'm not even the only person pointing this out.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but Ufotable is incompetent.
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>>152270848
>Ufo making Alisha and Rose more relevant than the actual MC.

Yes, I should watch this
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>>152271109
I just can't bring myself to share your pessimism but we'll see. I didn't mind the focus on Alisha in the first season to be honest. Rose comes off as a bit of a mary sue at times but she could use an arc and we'll get it out of the way soon.
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>>152271089
Anon's autism aside, sidelining the protagonist in a setting where he actually matters is generally not a good idea.
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>>152271166
Everyone got the fucking memo already. It isn't selling because Ufo didn't pander to fujos. You don't need to post the exact same thing in every post you make in every Zestiria thread that exists. You just sound like a whiny salty bitch because it wasn't what you wanted.
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>>152271109


>Thinks Kondo is incompetent

If you think an anime studio should focus on things that increase BD sales you are a giant retard. UFO figured out ages ago that it's best to get tertiary means of income which is why they opened up multiple cafes that sell merch and opened up theatres, and probably get income due to how much money they bring into the city of Tokushima like how PA works gets income from the city they're in.
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>>152271196
The problem is that Rose and Alisha are actually irrelevant, and they're side lining all the relevant characters, including the MC, to give them more screen time.
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>>152271297
Not my problem because I don't give a shit about Sorey and his story.
Rose and Alisha are far more fun to watch.
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Shit show. Dropped.
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>>152271360
Took you half a year?
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>>152271269
But retard they're still an animation studio, and if they can't move sales and even piss of fans, then why should IP holders give them their IP?

And if they lose IPs then what merchandise can their cafe even sell?
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>>152270786
>>yfw they include female characters

It would be awesome if they're badass politicians and rulers willing to send their pretty boys to battle
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>>152271166


Did it ever cross your fujoshit mind that not every studio wants to pander to the lowest common denominator just for easy disc sales? ( That are increasingly becoming less and less important as Chinese streaming comes into play and increases merch sales)
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Rose is fucking garbage.
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>>152271259
Except half of these posts aren't even me.

Again just because you're upset about the truth, doesn't make it any less so.
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>>152271471
>>152271503
He's always top tier, even in the game he's a bro.
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>>152271461
Didn't it ever cross your mind that animation studios are businesses in business to make money? If a studio proves that they don't understand their own audience then why should IP holders trust them with their IP?
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>>152271425


Most IP holders could give less of a shit if you've seen the state of adaptations across any medium over the past decade. They literally only care about getting the name out to as many people.
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>died from an illness
A gaping throat wound is not what I would call an illness.
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>>152271594
They do care if people start bashing the IP because the advertisement media being mishandled.
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>>152271649

Cover-up story
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>>152271668
Zestiria's repuation is already dead.
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>>152271594
No they only care about whether or not the adaptation makes money, for them, not Ufotable. If they can't make money off of it because of an incompetent anime, then they won't trust that studio anymore.
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>>152271699
No it was on life support, now it's dead.
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>>152271668


>People are only NOW just bashing Zestiria.
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>>152271699
Remember, BAMCO is still peddling Berseria, so Zestiria anime being mishandled, and reminding people of why they disliked Zestiria reflects badly on it.
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>>152271794
I think what anon means is that fujos have joined in on bashing it.
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Someone post the ED sequence
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SECOND SEASON IS SAVED
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>>152271471
>>152271503
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>Alisha is canonically attracted to muscular male bodies
>a tall and buff half naked Seraph man is going to follow her around judging by the ending
>he's a huge manslut
>Alisha can see him now
I can't fucking wait for all the comedic shenanigans that might happen in skits with Zaveid bullying Alisha.
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I'm reminded of how cute and amusingly fun Rose is.
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>>152273015
Rose is ugly.
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Mikeleo is her boy?
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>>152273089
Her beauty can only be seen by the pure of heart
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Am I the only one who misses the first OP?
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>>152272665

all the humans are getting filled up by Seraphs!
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>>152270280
Rose is awefully cute in that shot, and I am an Alisha-fag.
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So Dezel is going to destroy the city to punish the clergies?
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>>152270875
Is this good or bad?
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>>152273310
I think he's destroying the church and messing with the soldiers so Rose can sneak in to check
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>>152273341
Ahhh thanks anon!
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>>152273332
Better than last week
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How come there's so less Edna x Meebo banter in this?
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>>152270791
Team Rose>>>>>>>>>Team Sorey
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>>152273731
I guess you could say they're more fly than the white guy.
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Ageless Moon rip when?
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I don't get some of the complaints here. Half of the episode was devoted to Rose, which is okay because she's a a "new" character. No one was really licking her feet either. Sorey was suspicious and her subordinate had to put sense in her head. Dezel was retarded and atacked the church but we can already see Sorey is not going to aprove of this crap and we all know that a Shepard + 3 seraphs can easily slap the shit of a a single fag.

The other half was Sorey + Sergei shenanigans, it set up the Cardinal plot and even gave us a anime original villain.

I don't see how the MC was sidelined.
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>>152273731
Would be true if Sorey didn't have Edna.
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>>152273985
Bunch of people will instantly mad when Rose is on-screen, no matter how short her screentime it is.
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>>152271705
Ufo got a lot of goodwill for their fate stuff but the way they chose to handle this series is going to reflect badly on them.
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>>152273985
>Half of the episode was devoted to Rose, which is okay because she's a a "new" character. No one was really licking her feet either
Except she got most of the last episode about her too, and two episodes devoted mostly to her is more than other characters got when they were introduced.

And this episode might not have licked her boots, but last one certainly did, constantly
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>Sergej gets the script cover with that other captain
>lilies
What does Ufotable mean by this?
Is Sergej actually the purest and most innocent girl in this series?
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>still no tickle scene
Explain.
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>>152274767
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I hope Rose dies
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I really don't mind that the episodes are focusing on rose since I fucking hate sorey.
But seriously it feels like nothing happened during those 2 episodes
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>>152274911
Because they were focusing on Rose, it was the same thing when Alisha was the focus.
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Why is he following her
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>>152275053
Because he is using her as a mere tool for his revenge, the other Wind Seraph thinks he is just a retard
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>>152274767
Sergei is literally male Alisha with less suffering
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>>152275053
He's a stalker
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This whole Lastonbell arc is 100% anime original, dunno if it will be a bad thing yet but Sergei better teach Sorey Lion Howl asap
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>>152270791
Cool team.

So they toned down the I want rose the fuck me silly with her futa dick? thank god.
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>>152274455
How? All we got was basically Rose is a good merchant. That is all the bootlicking we got. The last episode also dealt with Mavin who is gonna be important later and introduced Sergei.

I hate Rose in the gama as much as anyone else anon, but nothing in those last episodes have come close to circlejerk that was the game. She was already humbled in season 1 and season 2 is already putting her in a less positive line.
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>>152275512
Well, in the anime Rose seemed to want Alisha's futa dick just as much, so I guess they decided to balance it a little?
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>implyning Ufo won't make this happening somehow
https://youtu.be/fwdPwXc4lKA?t=17m24s
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Tales of Baba's waifu

Complete with Mary Sue and half an episode of her hogging the camera solely to reinforce that she isn't a cold blooded killer except when she wants to be.
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>>152275608
I think that people hate the fact that she's getting focus at all when the story should be moving forward.
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>>152275755
Those doubts make her more human, actually.
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Lack of Edna makes me sad.
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>>152275673
Depends on if they meet up again before the end.
Could be since the ending shows them together separate from Sorey's squad.
I do want them to have a proper fight against each other though. Last times Alisha didn't have a spear.
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Reminder everything bad happening in Zestiria is this asshole fault
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>>152275673
>when they start slapping each other
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>It's a best girl episode once again

Thank you BASED Ufo.
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>>152275893

In Fairness, he did do the sensible thing at the time.
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>>152275893
He didn't help but the fault lies even more on Apple Dragon's taste on girls.
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>>152275798
Well, that makes more sense. That being said there's not much more for the story is there? I doubt they are going to do the elemental temples, so we just have the Cardinal plot, a Berseria special episode (no spoiler, please. I'm a pleb who don't know moon), Dezel's death (which may not happen) and the flashback. And of course the final battle. Am I forgetting something?
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>>152276064

the dora needs to get slain, too.

Also, there had better be another alesha centric arc before it ends.
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>>152276117
Oh yeah, there's that.
Well, in that case they better hurry a little with this church business.
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>>152275975
>Sorey and Mikleo are the pure and innocent ones who only hold hands
>Alisha and Rose are the violent aggressive rival couple who'd rip their clothes, punch them into bed and fuck the other into submission to resolve a fight
The japanese were right, Sorey and Mikleo are yuri and Rose and Alisha are bara.
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>>152276064
Well there was a lot of things that Ufotable actually should have gone over that are important to the story, instead of focusing on Rose. Season 1 actually had a similar problem they focused on Alisha so much that a lot of facts and information was never established.
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>>152276046
Hedalf caring more about his men chosing to fled from an hopeless battle didn't really made him deserving that curse
Hyland Army deserved it more than him for razing to the ground Michael's village for the sake of having a good time killing and raping defenceless neutral civilians
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When she sees your ____
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>>152276604
job perspectives
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>>152276604

Malevolence
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>>152276329
Wasn't it also stated that they attacked Hedalf was stationed there? Not only that but Hedalf did say that he was going to proteect them.
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>>152276211

the purest form of love is wanting to roughly grapple a slut to bed and take her while OH HO HO'ing in a display of dominance
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>>152276890
Yes, he told them he would have protected the village in case Hyland would have attacked, but he had too few men and opted to leave the village, Hyland still gave no fucks and destroyed the town for the sake of it.
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>>152276064
They will do the temples, they can't skip them.
They could be done in 1-2 episodes if they skip travel and trials, still would like Earth and Water Temple episodes
>tfw the children cries during Minotaur fight
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>>152277127
She assuredly would not want your Dirt Leech. She's more an Ouroboros girl.
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>>152277194
They can, the manga skipped them too.
All they were good for were as power ups so he could fight Heldalf and they're already making him do training to do so without the trials.
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Does everyone here dropped the show?
The thread is so slow
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>>152277075
Hedalf and his soldiers were also causing a lot of trouble for the people, in addition to painting a target sign on them.

>>152277243
Yeah but the manga also took care to establish a lot of facts before hand.
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>>152277403
Has an Ouroboros class dick.
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>>152277377
Yup and you have Alisha and Rose to blame.
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>>152277377
Not much to talk about this episode.
There's probably only 20 or so people on /a/ who care about this show.
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>>152277127
>Well? it aint gonna suck itself.
Also, cute ufo milf.
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>>152277437
He doesn't need that though.
He can just use his wind though that might be a bit too big for her.
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>>152275673
Why is Rose much better than Alishit?
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>>152277792
Mage hand style fucking? Nice.
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>>152277844
Girls can't get enough of the big wind guys. Ufotable agreed.
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>>152277979
Is Rose pure?
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I like both this and GE's adaptations. Cry more fujos.
>but muh flop
Sales mean nothing except that you're a retard. Stop bringing them up.
And they did a solid job with GE considering the MC in the game was a totally customizable self insert with literally 0 dialogue. That works for games, but it doesn't for anime
So stop shitting on Ufo literally because they don't pander to you
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>>152278069
Probably not.
>Dezel
>Konan
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>>152278145
Dezel is top tier male tsundere, that he is also a nature lover and good cook makes him even better.
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>>152270679
How much until he dies?
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>>152278547
At least five episodes I think.
Though the anime has derailed so much it's pretty unpredictable at this point.
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I think Rose will use Kamui in the anime but only the Wind Kamui. Wind Kamui Rose is the one they use all the time, anyway. Besides, game's Rose few fans are just girls that ship DezeRose.
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>>152277377
I'm stalling this until next week after knowing this episode is yet another slow one, might drop this if stuff didn't start to picking up by the next episode.
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>>152278089
Sales only mean nothing if the animation studio isn't the one handling or producing the BDs, but that's not the case here. The ones who have to take on any losses in that area is Ufotable, hence why they're trying so hard to sell them on twitter.

FYI the ones who sell the merchandise and who make money off of that is Bandai, not Ufotable. So if the anime makes money in merchandising, then they're not seeing it.

also
>GE
>good job
Yeah if you're fucking delusional.

Cry more waifufag.
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>>152278089
If an anime adaptation fails to make money, then producers won't trust the animation studio with their IP.
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>>152278089
>Sales mean nothing
If those animation studio ran by ghoul, then maybe.
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>>152278716
I really can't tell anymore at this point.
I think they're definitely going for the two squires thing after Rose finishes her character development but there's been no hints to whether she or Alisha will armatize. Either neither of them will or both of them will. I don't think it will be only Rose seeing as how much they have equalized Rose and Alisha in the OP and the ED.
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>>152278941
Nice post that says nothing. Do you work at Ufo? Why do you care about their losses? My point was that sales mean nothing about a show's quality. Unless you want to tell me SnK's a fucking masterpiece.
>>152279014
Still says nothing about the actual quality. Which is my point. I prefer little sales if pandering to a demographic is needed to generate big sales. I don't work at Ufo, so I only care about the actual product, not the sales or their financial situation
>>152279104
Fuck off and don't come back until you can say something that makes sense. What do you even want to say?
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Rose and Alisha will have their own arc, probably.
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>>152279465
Alisha still has Maltran and is probably gonna purify Ladylake with her knight squad and Zaveid if the ED is to be trusted.
Rose's arc is happening right now with the assassins and Dezel issues.
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>>152279172
I don't work for Ufo so I don't care if their stupidity makes them fail, I was merely correcting your incorrect statement about sales meaning nothing. Also ToZX is boring and the story is going nowhere. It isn't even decent, ToZX is a waste of animation. Saying that it's shit because it doesn't pander to fujo, when it's shit because they're pandering to waifufags who won't even buy or watch their shit is both ironic and hilarious. So if you're trying to argue that ToZX has is doing shitty financially but has good quality, you're fucking wrong.
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>>152280023
*not
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They should have just catered to Meebo so at least those fujoshit faggots can be happy, though that won't make me watch it.
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>>152280063
At least then the story would be more interesting, as they'd be focusing on a main character and not a side characters.
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>>152280023
>>152280214
Keep raging, fujo. You're just mad you're not the one being pandered to. ToZX may indeed not be a masterpiece breaking new ground. But it's still decently entertaining as a fantasy show.
The moment you bring sales into the argument is the moment anything you say becomes worthless.
Sales only mean anything to Ufo. Which means, they mean nothing to anyone here
Now kill yourself
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>>152280214
Focusing on Sorey would make the show even more boring than it already is.
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I feel bad for Rose's VA. Doing the anime knowing the fanbase hates you.
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>>152280369
>H-he is more interesting than you think!!! T-the anime is just doing things wrong, and Mikleo!!! *swoon* Oh Sorey doing things with Mikleo *sigh* anime is doing things wrong!!!
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>>152280369
This. Rose has a much more interesting personality.
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>>152280453
Does anyone legitimately hate Mikakoshi for it though? She did a good job doing the voice and it's definitely not her fault all the shit happened.
Even the militant Japanese should know that and blame Baba instead of her.
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>>152280453
She earns a lot of money for this, you know?
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>>152280531
But Baba is sorry!
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Who picking up Berseria?
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>>152280343
What, he's the only character that has anything to do with the story, finding out that everything the characters know and think about their world and their duty is wrong, is infinitely more interesting than watching Alisha cry for 20 minutes, or watching characters sit around sucking Rose's futacock.
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>>152280646
20 minutes of Alisha crying would be great though.
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>>152280646
>finding out that everything the characters know and think about their world and their duty is wrong
So he's some kind of know it all of justice? Yeah, he's so interesting and novel of a main character. I'm not rolling my eyes at you or anything.

Sike, I am
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>>152280343
You mad, just because the anime is shit bro? I'm not pretending that the story is by any means a masterpiece, but focusing on boring, and shitty side characters who aren't even important for no other purpose than to appease to waifufags is by no means "quality writing". Also it was already established why your "sales don't matter" mantra is delusional bullshit.

Does the truth hurt waifufag?
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>>152280645
Me, will be vigilant for any further censorship too.
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>>152280646
>What, he's the only character that has anything to do with the story
You keep saying this as if relevancy to the most cliched and trite hero saves the world from big bad evil dude somehow helps his character.

I'd take both a side story about Alisha going around the destroyed countryside helping poor peasants while trying to make politics care about them instead of war or Rose travelan and tradan and occasionally finding bad guys to kill and being confronted about her judgement of good and evil over Sorey's muhlevolence journey.
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>>152280730
And you just proved that you're a shitty secondary, as well as an Ufotablefag, congraulations.
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>>152280587
Who can blame him? Mikako is ridiculously hot. Who doesn't want to fuck her?
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>>152280850
It's basic writing 101, a main character is a character who is the most relevant to the plot, hence their moniker, "main character".

Alisha's side story was boring as shit and so is Rose, if you want to be a waifufag who wants to suck Ufotable's cock, then that's fine, go ahead and do so, but don't pretend for one minute that it makes a show interesting or quality.
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>>152280955
Who cares if he's the MC and most relevant to the plot. The plot is bad so I want more stuff that hasn't anything to do with the plot.
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Why is Rose so shit?
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>>152281015
And that's fine for you, but don't pretend that it makes the show better for it to pander to you. Or pretend that Ufotable is a-okay with how things are, when by all means they aren't.
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>>152280863
Nah, Sorey is boring as shit and isn't anything that hasn't been done before. I'm not saying anything about Alisha or Rose being better, I'm just saying that you're overrating Sorey and possibly Mikleo by extension because of your fujoshit tastes.
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>>152281082
Because she's a dyke.
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>>152281164
Fuck man, you are the ones who constantly start shit and accuse everyone who likes it of waifufaggotry then try to start some meta discussion about how bad it sold because it didn't pander to fujos just to feel good about hating it when no one fucking cares.
I'm not even that guy who you talked about Ufotable with.
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>this shitfest gets an anime
>not Xillia which could have enough episodes for both games
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>>152281199
And I was saying that Sorey is interesting because of the interesting shit is connected to him and Mikleo. Case in point most of the things about Berseria connect back to Sorey and Mikleo. Hell the game itself actually cut out a lot shit about their journey.

Sorey's problem in the game was that he wasn't grow or be right. Sorey's problem in the anime is that he isn't allowed to be the main character. Mikleo is only interesting in the manga and the official book where they actually get into his head.
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They should have fully went with the two semi-independent parties approach, with half the screen time for each.
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>>152281406
I never even started the conversation, and the only reason why anyone would like ToZX is because of the waifufaggotry, in fact those are the only people who are okay with it.
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>>152281506
It's not interesting at all. You're overrating all that shit. And it's always about muh Sorey and Mikleo, that's how I can tell your interest in this is fujoshit levels. I'm sure you're actually a girl at this point.
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>>152281541
Completely agree with this. They should've just went full anime original and let Sorey do his things with just the seraphs. Fujos would be happy too because no human girls would interact with their Sorey.
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>>152281506
>Case in point most of the things about Berseria connect back to Sorey and Mikleo
You're delusional.
The only thing that has relevancy with Sorey and Mikleo is the idea that malevolence would be solved by making humans and seraphim coexist and that plotline is forgotten until the ending in all iterations of Zestiria.
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>>152281541
No, that shit is what fucked up the first season, the best thing for them to do is to forgo the separate party bullshit, and just make them all one party, so that you won't waste time with characters doing fuck all so that other characters can shine.

Then instead of focusing on two side characters, they should focus on characters in accordance to their importance to the story. That way a character won't take up time needed for other characters. First season should have focused on introducing all of the characters and world to us, not just on Alisha. That way season 2 has breathing room to tell it's story and end each character arc.
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>>152270764
>Considering how they also fucked up God Eater,
That's not their fault, it's the original IP.
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>>152281860
>Also, to be fair, they did a decent job after the broadcasting resumed.
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>>152281836
Putting too many characters into one party just makes all of them bland and satellite characters.
If you want to give anyone character building you gotta reduce their party size. Even Mikleo was the most interesting when he was alone.
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>>152281836
The director already showed that he can't focus more than one character at a time. Whenever Alisha or Rose is alone in the main party they'll get the attention.

With two parties they can focus on a tighter group interactions and plot points, like Alisha and Rose dealing with politics and each developing to be less idealistic/pragmatic based on the other, and Sorey and Mikleo dealing with the malevolence with Lailah and Edna as support.
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>>152282151
>>152282190
Case in point, episode 10 and 11 were the best episodes of the first cour and it focused on both parties.
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>>152281780
Actually not necessarily.

Yes, that is the most direct connection, but the connection is also with the fact that Artorius the main villain of Berseria was a shepherd. Long story short he was a shit shepherd, and Lailah actually wants Sorey to become like him, while Sorey idolizes him and believed that he had the key to turn humans and seraphim unity. Artorius was a prick who wanted to erase everyone's emotions. Sorey is also the one who decides to purify Maotelus at the end. In Zestiria itself, Sorey is also Hedalf's son, and Hedalf has a curse on him that was placed by Mikleo's uncle that causes him to be alone. Hedalf becomes interested in Sorey and actively tries to turn Sorey into a hellion so that he could stay with Hedalf. . And the current bullshit that Sorey is dealing with happened because Lailah didn't want Michael involved with political matters, those same matters could have prevented the entire war.
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>>152281780
In the game Sorey actually learns about Magilou, becomes interested in her writings and visits her grave.
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>>152282450
>>152282575
I know all this shit.
Artorius is nothing like Sorey.
Artorius was a prick because he didn't believe in free will and wanted everyone to be a tool. A tool for collective happiness of humanity but still a tool.
Neither Sorey nor Lailah want this.
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>>152282190
>>152282378
10 and 11 were actually boring when the focus switched to Alisha and Rose. It had the same problem, again what Alisha and Rose were doing wasn't important, so focusing on them itself was a waste of time.

I think that the director just favored Rose and Alisha and wanted to focus on them more, when he should be spreading out the focus, and if there was a character who needed most of that focus it was Lailah.
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>orginal characters
>literally nothing happens

What the fuck is the point of this episode and why didn't Sergei just teach him lion howl instead of that boring shit.
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>>152282733
Artorius is nothing like Sorey, but Lailah still wants Sorey to be like him, and Sorey does idolize him. We never found out until Berseria that Artorius was a prick who essentially wanted to turn everyone in the world into mindless drones.
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>>152282733
Lailah is wrong about everyone everything but doesn't realize it.
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>>152282952
Wtf, I love Lailah now.
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>>152282782
Clearly /a/ disagreed with you.
Alisha becoming an alpha was the most talked about thing in the threads after those episodes aired.
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>barely any interaction between edna and meebo outside the hilarious skits
Just kill me to be quite honest.
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>>152283123
actually when it aired there were people who were crying out how Alisha became a Mary Sue, and most people agreed that it was episode 8 that was the best. Episode 10 was forgettable, episode 11 was really only liked by Alishafags and /u/, and the episode after that was a giant trainwreck that again only Alishafags liked.
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>>152283219
I actually did think that that was 2B for a second, well played Meebo.

sauce
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Ufotable really stepped up with both the opening and ending. The visuals were amazing. ED2>OP2>OP1>ED1.
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https://u.nya.is/atwggv.mp4

Hmm, it makes me feel FLOW song should have been the OP song and vise versa
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Lailah is love.
Lailah is life.
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>>152284147
I would agree if it didn't have the still frame paintings but the battle animations definitely should be in the OP.
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>>152284147
I find the visuals should be switched too.
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>>152284349
Where is the fucking porn?
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>>152284147
So, what are they gonna pull to make Zaveid join Alisha?
It just feels so out of left field but also makes me really curious.
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>>152284349
Lailah is a slut who is just using apple dragons powers anyway.
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>>152284693
>ending of Berseria was so nice and hopeful
>Zestiria just fucks everything up.
Oneesans cannot be trusted.
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>>152284349

isn't Lailah's SHIT TASTE in Shepherds is one of the main reasons why Malevolence has gotten so bad over time, anyway?
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>>152284693
>>152284657
"Lailah The Pure" is literally her name.
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>>152284742
Who knows. The world was already getting fucked by the time Michael became shepherd.
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>>152284742
Lailah did nothing wrong.

She did her best with the shit hand she was dealt. That is all.
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>>152284852
Not really.

>Era of the Three Countries - decades ago - >The Hyland Kingdom, the Rolance Empire, and the northern power divided the continent in three and warred for dominance. The Church of Seraphim divided the churches of Hyland and Rolance. // The Shepherd Michael secluded himself at the latter end of his journey. He founded Camlann, and wrote and published the Celestial Record. Within the Rolance Empire, General Heldalf, who would become the Lord of Calamity, flourished. Also, a renaissance movement occurred within Marlind.

The current problems in the world are things that started during Michael's time, but Lailah doesn't like it when her shepherds interfere in human affairs but we later on learn that the war and the event started because of the disagreement in the church that Michael should have mediated.
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>>152284852
Berseria revealed that Zavied and Eizen fixed things, only for Lailah to break it again with her shit taste in shepherds.
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>>152285255
Dude
>Death Age - 200 years ago - The entire continent was hit with an abnormal plague, and the population was halved. The few Shepherds remaining disappeared from the public’s eye. Following this, the continent went into a state of seclusion and ceased exchange with other continents. // It is theorized that Maotelus’ divine protection was interrupted by the Lord of Calamity. Shipbuilding and ocean voyage technology was started, however important information was lost. The reason is unknown.
From the same timeline you cited.
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>>152285481
Also from what I've read from other people talking about the Berseria world guidance book that is the time when Eizen turned into a dragon when fighting and killing the Lord of Calamity of that time.
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>>152285481
Yeah but that problem was solved by Eizen and Zaveid. They were recovering from that. You actually find out in the Zestiria itself that quite a bit of shepherds with whom she was their personal prime lord before Sorey became Hellions.
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>>152285548
In other words they were recovering from that, the Death Age was over. In Zestiria itself it was stated that Lailah doesn't want her shepherds to get involved in human affairs. We also find out that a lot of the shepherds she chose looked after became hellions. The current strife could have been avoided had she allowed the shepherds to mediate between Hyland and Rolance.
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>>152268208
tales of xillia 2 would have made a better anime .
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>>152285255
>>152285481
Speaking of the timeline, it seems to mention a northern kingdom a lot.
So, should I imagine a Zesty Russia or Zesty Vikings?
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Anyone else liking Dezel's new 'a tornado for you and for you and one for you too' personality?
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>>152285993
More like Vikings it seems, Zesty has no russians.
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>>152285993
You HAD your Russia themed area in Graces, Vikings it is.
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>>152286134
>>152285993
Though when I saw the gate in Zaphgott, it had actual Hieroglyphics, so you may get some winter Egyptians.
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>>152270177
Investigation.
Dungeon crawl.
Interrogation.
Trial.
Execution.
All in one night.

Rose makes Japanifornia's legal system look absolutely lethargic.
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>>152286102
>>152286134
Holy fucking shit
Imagine
>Northern seraphim have more animal themes
>Bear, wolf or raven seraphim
>Northern shepherds make pacts with bears spirits
>turns into a fucking manbear for armatization instead of a faggy dude in white leggings
>actual Berserkers are just people who eat magic shrooms to be controlled by seraph
WHERE DO I PUT MY MONEY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN?
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>>152286335
The last time we had that kind of shit in a tales game it was a trainwreck, no werepeople.
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>>152286335
Dude seraphs don't have to have human forms, Berseria shows that shepherds can armatize with hellions.

>>152286436
Berserkers aren't werepeople
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>>152286502
>Manbear armitization
>Not akin to Werepeople
Reading comprehension, do you have any?
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>>152286568
Except it's not, that's not how armatization works, with regualr seraphim, unless your armatizing with a hellion and that shit would fuck you up.
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>>152286502
>Berseria shows that shepherds can armatize with hellions.
Eh, when did that happen again? You mean Theresa?

Also most normal human hellions are kinda werepeople already anyways.

Then how about people eating shrooms to be closer to seraphim cause they don't have Maotelus to give them a prime lord to make shepherds and only the ones that lose themselves actually become werebear hellions or the like?
Fuck man, I just really love a comfy and wild wintery viking setting.
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>>152286632
It may be controllable, but you're still talking about a man taking on a somewhat bestial form, in this case a bear. That is literally Werebear territory. Again, I must ask you, have you any reading comprehension?
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>>152268208
>OP2 still shows Velvet shit even when her garbage game flopped
JUST

At least ED2 is pretty good.
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So she's an improved version of the beloved Yuri yet people hate her because she's basically perfect? You faggots are retarded.
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>>152286687
Yeah, of course I'm talking about Teresa who else armatizes with a hellion?

They don't need to eat shrooms to feel closer to seraphim, they just need to have resonance. A berserker in viking lore is essentially just a shepherd using armatization in Zestiria. Not all seraphs have a human form after all.

>>152286768
It's not we already have it and it's called armatization, an that shit doesn't turn you into a werebeast, unless you're aramtizing with a hellion.
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>>152286973
People hated her because of the pure hearted assassin who is never wrong bullshit who just happened to be as powerful as the MC and because she doesn't get any character development at all.
The anime already did away with two of these things and maybe even the third so her anime incarnation is hated less.
She's also much cuter
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>>152287062
>>Northern shepherds make pacts with bears spirits
>>turns into a fucking manbear for armatization instead of a faggy dude in white leggings
Relevant lines right the fuck here jackass. Read them, love them. What I was protesting was this. The anon who posted these lines must not know how the process works.
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>>152286973
Biba please.
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>>152287218
That was just my fanfiction anyway, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
Plus isn't armatization an invention of the Abbey in Berseria anyway?
Who knows there isn't some other way some other culture in their world found out how to pact and fuse with Seraphim
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>>152287356
The abbey solved figured what was needed to make it work (high resonance) but they didn't invent it.
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This flop anime is still going?

Anyone got ED2 somewhere?
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>>152287413
Then, technically anyone with high enough resonance could become a shepherd and armatize with any seraphim, no? Exorcists all had random Seraphim and it worked just fine.
You only need a Prime Lord of Maotelus if you wanted purification powers too, right?
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>>152270901
Cute!
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>>152287808
>
>>152284147
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Edna as usual stealing the spotlight in the preview. Love it.

ED2 is pretty good. Wish it was the OP though.
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>>152287868
Should've been the OP.
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>>152287837
As long as they make a pact with a prime lord, yeah. Hell Lailah isn't even truly necessary to choose a shepherd it's just that it's easier for shepherds to also have purification abilities although it's not necessary for them to be a shepherd. All they need is high resonance and a powerful seraph whose willing to combine with them and create a pact, you don' even really need to be a shepherd. Hell Lailah doesn't even have to be the one to pick the shepherd (Sorey is an example of this).

>You only need a Prime Lord of Maotelus if you wanted purification powers too, right?
Of course Artorius was a shepherd before Maotelus even became a prime lord.
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some of the ED images are really cool
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>>152288249
I think they're all pretty damn cool
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>>152288027
I knew it. I fucking knew it, /a/. Why are Edna and Meebo so perfect together?
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>>152288378
You have the worst taste imaginable if you actually ship them.
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Hopefully they won't skip the elemental trials.
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>>152272439
i still don't get why a character from another game is in this?
are the stories even connected?
it felt so disconnect in season 1 when she appeared.
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>>152288430
Why shouldn't they? The only good things about them were the soundtracks.
>>152288457
Berseria is a distant prequel. They are very much connected.
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>>152288457
They are connected. Berseria is a prequel set in the same world but in the past and Velvet's actions heavily influenced Zestiria's world current state.
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>>152288457
The stories are connected, Ufotable is just doing a shit job at connecting them.
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>>152288545
They couldn't have done anything to connect them in the two episodes they have anyway lest they spoil the game's ending before it even released in japan.
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>>152288603
but it was really weird because there was no connection at all
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>>152288687
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>>152288603
Actually they could have segued into it by talking about the first Lord of Calamity.
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>>152288727
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>>152288781
Wouldn't that be a spoiler too?
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>>152288795
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So I take it only Alisha or Rosefags watch this? It's arguably more mediocre than the game, sans a few changes. Then again, all the characters in this are garbage.
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>>152288430
They're skipping them. There's just no time for it. They're set on spending like 4-5 episodes just on this little Rolance-Lastonbell Arc. Just adding the conclusion/flashbacks/info dumps/war/dragon is enough to fill almost the entirety of the 12 or whatever episodes they're doing.

Unless they do the trials as some sort of montage thing. But that'd be lazy and I rather get nothing than that really.
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>>152288687
>>152288727
>>152288795
>>152288845
>fire
>water
>wind
>wind
Don't bully Edna!
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>>152288837
No, it's one of the first things that was revealed about Velvet.
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>>152288889
They're not. The PV shows Edna in the Earth temple and Lailah in the wind temple.
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>>152288937
Pretty sure it wasn't though? I remember people wondering if she would become the lord of calamity during the first few episodes of Zestiria before the game came out.
People only started talking about her being the LoC after the game released.
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>>152289015
And even Artorius being the Shepherd was only speculation before the game released.
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>>152289078
Artorius was outright called "doushi" in one of the previews. And in another one they had a quote from Velvet that made it clear that she was the Lord of Calamity.
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>>152289078
It was just like how people didn't realize that Malaks were in fact seraphs, it was pretty obvious and not something that was hidden from you.
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>>152288457
>are the stories even connected?
I wish they were their own things. The connection to Zestiria is Berseria's lowest point.
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Glotoun or Therion?
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>>152286973
Maybe it was lost in the shitty english version but Yuri had a ton of internal strife about his choices and the responsibility he ultimately choose to bear. Rose just says her way is best and is a mary fucking sue.
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>>152288457
Belbeto is the very first lord of calamity.
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>>152290357
Anime Rose is doubting herself now but the way she did didn't make any sense to me.
Why would she hesitate after learning that Guren got killed by the clergy? Wouldn't that rather strengthen her conviction since it would support her decision to kill the bishop?
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>>152290357
Yuri also gets called out on it by other characters, who judge him for it.
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>>152290789
Only Flynn judges him on it until he gets btfo. Estelle just was upset he kept it to himself mostly.
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>>152290527
The anime doesn't make any sense, if they really wanted to have Rose doubt herself then the last season was the best time to have her do so. She judged Alisha to be evil and tried to kill her, but she was wrong, not having her question herself from it makes her screentime in season 1 pointless.

This is one of those times where the game makes more sense.
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>>152290888
Doesn't Carol also get upset about it too?
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>>152290963
Not really.
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They made Sergei so gross in the anime.
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>>152290527
I didn't get it, either. For what purpose? Ufo is changing her personality.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIgZEvjr-A
>This scene is completely gone from the anime.
Why?
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>>152291208
this was the single best piece of writing in the whole game
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>>152291208
They took out everything that was even remotely amusing from the game.
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>>152291297
Ufotable has a very serious reputation now after doing Fate. Just like they took out anything even remotely sexual from Zero and UBW. They can't have people not taking their work seriously.
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>>152291127
>They made Sergei so cute in the anime
Fixed for you
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>>152291208
Whoever in charge can't do shit right. Now Zestiria is even blander than it's game.
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>>152291208
I loved that scene.
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>>152291208
>no tickle scene
>no "married couple" scene
>barely any interactions between the seraphs
Why is Ufotable doing this?
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>>152291336
But doing so to Zestiria only made things blander and boring. The sad thing is that they have the tools necessary to make this not so, but they just refuse to use them. It's just like how removing the sexuality from Zero and UBW didn't make it better, removing humor doesn't improve the writing.

Ufotable's staff seems so hyper focused on visuals, and making people "take them seriously" but it's having the opposite effect.
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>>152291580
It's really weird, especially since they did such a great job on UBW.
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>>152291654
UBW source material was good though.
Zestiria wasn't.
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>>152291684
I think what you mean is that UBW had an adaptation before so they weren't going in blind. Also UBW is also a action heavy not mostly plot, dialogue or character driven source like ToZ.

How is Heaven's Feel doing by the way.
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>>152291208
>dub
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>>152291802
>character driven
>Zestiria
Do you know what that word means?
Just because it's got lots of dialogue doesn't make it character driven.
All of the major story beats are purely plot driven.
>Hellions are about so become a shepherd
>Malevolence is bad so purify the dungeon
>War is going on so go to fight
>purify this purify that
>Oh you're too weak, go do these trials
>Collect these things to find out how to save the world
>Fight the bad guy and save Maotelus because else ecerything is fucked
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>>152292059
I know what that word means
You do know that when you over simpfly things then they're going to come across as simple. Though even so a lot of what you said was wrong, for instance.

>Hellions are about so become a shepherd
Was actually not the reason Sorey became Shepherd or chosen to do that.
>Malevolence is bad so purify the dungeon
Sorey actually doesn't purify dungeons.
>War is going on so go to fight
Again not the reason Sorey fought
>Oh you're too weak, go do these trials
That is true.
>Collect these things to find out how to save the world
Again not true, Sorey didn't need those balls to figure out how to save the world
>Fight the bad guy and save Maotelus because else ecerything is fucked
True, just like every RPG you win when you defeat the final boss.
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>>152292059
If you're talking about te anime then most of what you're saying is true, but if you're talking about the game or any of it's over adaptations then it's not.
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>>152292176
What point are you trying to make? Zestiria is not character driven. One of it's biggest flaws is how little it focuses on the main cast's perspectives and progression as people, as oppose to the roles they have to play for the sake of plot. This goes double for Sorey.

The anime is only being character centric around the human waifus Alisha and Rose, but they shafted Sorey yet again.
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>>152292176
Let me fix that then. It doesn't change that the plot is the major driving factor in the story.
>become the shepherd because people are in danger right here and now in the shrine
>purify this drake because he makes malevolence
>go to war because of a damsel in distress
>go collect these crystals so someone shows you how everything got fucked and that just killing the bad guy isnt enough
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>>152291684
>>152291684
>UBW source material was good
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>>152292293
My point is that Zestiria's biggest plot twists are character driven, but yes the game's biggest problem was that they never expounded on the characters thoughts and history despite the fact the fact that it was both interesting and important. The anime only made it worse.

>>152292415
>become the shepherd because people are in danger right here and now in the shrine
Sorey was raised to be a shepherd by his grandfather, the danger was the incident just to add in tension but it isn't the reason he became shepherd.
>purify this drake because he makes malevolence
Anime-only bullshit, in the game they stopped him because he was making people sick.
>go to war because of a damsel in distress
true to a point, Sorey was blackmailed into going to war, but then he forgot about Alisha immediately afterwards.
>go collect these crystals so someone shows you how everything got fucked and that just killing the bad guy isnt enough
That was just another way to extend the game, in reality Sorey didn't need it.
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>>152292656
>Anime-only bullshit, in the game they stopped him because he was making people sick.
You do realize that's the same thing, right?
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Are they gonna have another Berseria episode?
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>>152292656
>Sorey was raised to be a shepherd
First off he didn't know that and "Become a Shepherd because it's your destiny" doesn't exactly help your case of a character driven plot.
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The pacing here is all wrong. They spend long minutes talking about obvious things probably because they've eliminated the trials entirely from the plot, which makes me wonder how Sorey is going to be able to survive Kittybeard's domain next time they fight.
I also wonder how Sorey is going to figure out the lord of calamity's past, since that's such a big deal.

Also why is Rose questioning herself now? Surely something like this has happened before, why start questioning herself now?
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>>152292823
That's the reason why Lailah was waiting for him, and the reason his resonance is so high.
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>>152292727
In the anime he does it because Alisha asked him to, in the game Sorey actually interacts with the people and even pays for their protection.
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>>152292966
In the end, he purifies the drake because it's the source of the malevolence and that was his purpose.
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>>152292922
>>152292966
None of this makes it character driven. Geez, you really don't know what that means, do you?
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>>152291618
they're focused on being epic
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>>152293047
>>152293092
But he actually had a personal reason for doing so, you're essentially oversimplifying it to say that he purified the drake because of malevelonce. The whole reason why Sorey even went to begin with was because he wanted to. Yes it does connect back to the drake having malevolence but that isn't changing the fact that he did it because he wanted to help the townsfolk.
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>>152293361
Yeah epically boring.
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>>152293375
No, look at the actual plot there, not what Sorey does around it.

Marlind is corrupted. A Drake is causing it. Someone needs to fix it.
This whole story beat is purely premediated by the plot. It has absolutely nothing to do with Sorey's personality, character interaction or otherwise that caused this plot point to happen. What he does to solve it doesn't matter.
What matters is the story beat happened by itself and it forces a character to do something about it.
Just take it absolutely literally. The character does not drive the plot. The plot would have happened with or without Sorey or his friends being there.
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>>152293710
only people with a low IQ level get bored
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>>152292823
Why not both?
Sorey was raised by Seraphim and loves the Seraphim. Being a Shepard means directly working for and with the Seraphim. Loving ancient ruins and cave diving was above and beyond anyone's expectations.

It's not just destiny. Becoming Shepard was a smart career choice.
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>>152292748
No, and thank fuck for that. The last thing this show needs is another diversion from where its focus should be, which is Sorey & Mikleo's Excellent Adventure. Bad enough skanks and whores are stealing spotlights they were never meant to stand in.
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>>152291802
>character driven
>Zestiria
t. Baba
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>>152292587
>HF faggot
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>>152294871
The Baba and Rose debacle certainly is a character driven story.
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>>152294923
Yeah, a question of Baba's character and integrity
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I'm just waiting for Rose to armatize. It will be a glorious day when she finally does.
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>>152296721
I love how this looks like Alisha with green eyes
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>>152275818
Edna episode WHEN
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>>152297149
That is edited to be Alisha
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>>152270706
That is an impossibly uncomfortable way to try to fall asleep. What the fuck is Alisha thinking? Just lay down.
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>>152270706
Why the hell is she still around in Rose's arc?
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>>152297149
>>152297238
It's a reminder of something you'll never get.
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>>152293712
You do realize that you could say the same thing about every single story there is. All events in a written story are premeditated by the plot if you take out character involvement. That's just a fact of writing.
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>>152294400
Only pseudo intellects with delusions of taste think that a story should be epic and one note, instead of well written, dynamic, and interesting.
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UFO makes some fine looking anime, I have to say
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I have been researching this but can't figure out where the entry point for this series is. I hear people saying the first couple of anime episodes make more sense and there is a billion assorted OVA's/Movies/Games, etc.
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>>152300053
It's supposed to be stand alone, but it's not doing a good job of it. The OVA is it's own thing.
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>>152300053
OVA is just adaptation of the beginning of the game.
Anime just adapts and alters the game.
Game is the canon version, so playing it first and watching the anime to compare is pretty much the incentive of most in these threads.
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Well, /a/?
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>>152270848
>was gonna comment on how Sorey had the game
>tfw I remembered he was just a yes-man
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>>152278089
>I like both this and GE's adaptations
>they did a solid job with GE
Jesus christ.
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>>152302025
>t. secondary who never played the game.
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>>152301680
I actually like game Rose. She's goofy and lovably ignorant about most things, but smart in that her logic is different yet flawless.
Anime Rose is just some tryhard badass who knows everything.
I'm really starting to believe the anime is more about her.
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>>152302590
>implying
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The girls are very cute, and Sorey and Sergei are very handsome. Meebo a cute, too.

I like this anime. The great thing about not having played the game is not having expectations. Feels great.
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>>152282733
>One guy tries to kill himself as a emotionless tool
>Collective happiness.
Happiness is an emotion.
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>>152289713
I disagree. It actually favored Berseria and helped shit on stuff in Zestiria.

Edna's bro believing in kill dragons first and worry about finding a way to purify them later. Just look at how he became BFFs with Zaveid after killing Zaveid's dragon turned waifu and him swearing to kill him in vengeance one day.

We also learn Dragon God is a good dragon god with a weakness for onee-sans.
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>>152303796
Not just any onee-sans but the best onee-sans.

Why is Lailah so perfect, /a/?
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>>152270875
Rose is growing on them

Smug of the season by the way
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>>152304351
Best girl.
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I feel like Season 2 lost all sense of direction now that it's completely doing it's own thing.

Both the first and second episodes were painfully dull and a chore to watch. Too much walking and talking about obvious things. The Seraphs basically being relegated to Sorey's color-coded hanger-ons is bullshit too. They're important -Lilah and Meebo especially- to the whole goddamn essence of the plot and Sorey's role. Instead Sorey himself gets sidelined for Alisha and Rose's Excellent Misadventures.

They didn't even try to make the protagonist a compelling, interesting character. Ufotable made tons of changes in an attempt to fix the narrative but they failed to give the MC a reason to exist between pulling out the sword and his final showdown with Kittybeard. If they killed Sorey off next episode and had Rose take over nothing would change.

Basically I'm pissed that the Seraphs are background noise because they're attached to Sorey and Sorey is a background character in his own goddamn show. We can't have funny moments with them because we need to see Rose being a bully and Sorey walking and talking about shit we know instead. Zestiria's only saving grace were the few funny moments it had. We can't have them because waifufagging is the top priority. The Shepherd isn't really so important after all I guess. If he was we'd see more of his thoughts, more of his actions, and more of the Seraphs coaching and talking with him. Nope have more sugoi Alisha and Rose adventures instead while the plot drags along like an anchor.

Yes I am THIS MAD.
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>>152305794
Baba, please.
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>>152306850
>Yes I am THIS MAD.
Why? It's just Zestiria and Zestiria is subpar either way. A subpar anime adaptation just follows the legacy.
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>>152306850

1 cour was enough to warm people to Berseria, this one is nothing but a mistake, just like Zestiria itself.
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>>152307304

I had high hopes that the anime would do better since it could learn from the game's mistakes. It also was free from some of the gameplay-related issues like the aimless "go anywhere!" bit after Lastonbell and trying to cram essential lore into skippable side-quests.

They knew the following: Alishia had a small but vocal group of fans who felt she was slighted, Rose has more passionate haters than fans, fujos were the only ones who ended up liking the game, the Seraphs were over half the life and spirit of the game's cast, and the morality/muhlevolance system was in need of some serious explaining.

They decided to: Make the entire first cour about Alishia to the detriment of everything else, Make Rose the focus of the second cour (so far), introduce the Seraphs then put them on a bus for more srs bsns, adhere to muhlevolance without explaining much how it works, and eliminate the parts the fujos liked.

Then they have to resort to begging on social media for people to buy the BDs and DVDs. The concept of an Arthurian Legend where wannabe Jesus-boy is told not to be such a self-sacrificing martyr is great. Exploring the concept of morality and absolutism vs. relativism is even better. But we got Zesty instead. I had too much faith in Ufotable.
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>>152307497
>I had too much faith in Ufotable.
Pretty much. I don't know how good or bad their other adaptations were, but this isn't even better than the manga's counterpart and it was gimped to 5 volumes.
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>>152304173
Best clothes
Cute hair and facial expressions
Her pun game is strong

There are many reason, anon.
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I still remember when we all thought Ufotable was saving Zestiria.

How wrong we were.
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What kind of monster would accuse this miracle of the universe of any wrong doing? It's just disgusting. Unbelievable.
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>>152308248
I still think it's better than the game
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>>152268208
Why is Sorey such a good name for extremely cute inflection
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>>152308248
It's great. Fuck off.
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>>152307497
>Then they have to resort to begging on social media for people to buy the BDs and DVDs
did this actually happen
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>raging landwhale fujos posing as normal people who unironically want more fujo pandering to increase sales
Literally no one is like that. Fuck off you disgusting cunts.
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>>152268208
>literally 2 episodes in
>people think the whole show is rose now
Do you retards understand the concept of certain characters having episodes to themselves? Are you all fucking stupid or what? Answer me
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>>152309445
Some people are retarded or blinded by their hate. Buy yes, your observation is correct.

Lailah got an episode focused heavily on her. Same for Edna and Meebo.
Alisha got an entire episode of her. All of it. She was literally the only relevant character on it.

Now it's Rose's turn but people are butthurt because it's Rose.
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>>152309609
>people are butthurt because it's Rose
I honestly don't understand the Rose hate. It must just be fujos strawmanning her because she's detracting from homo shit.
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>>152309656
Now now, Rose's plot was legitimately shit in the game.
She's getting better in the anime.
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>>152309733
Edna's a fucking slut.

Just this episode, Sorey asked Lailah to get inside of him. What did queen slut edna do?

>"Me too. I want to be inside you too!"
Fucking slut. What about her onii-chan? Did she forget about him already? Worst imouto.
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>>152309835
Do they finger his ass or what?
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>>152309870
I don't even want to know what kind of degeneracy goes on in there.
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>>152309835
How many Seraphim can fit into one Shepherd?
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I never played the game, but I like Rose now. More than Yuri even.
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>>152310066
Rose is great. Don't let the fujos tell you otherwise.
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>>152268208
Glad to see this shit flopping, though
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>>152310085
I always thought Rose had the most fun personality but should've been getting much more shit from the plot. It'd be great if the anime gave her a bunch of suffering to fight through before giving her the squireship and didn't just handwave away the Dezel backstory.
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>>152310510
Nah, it's okay. Rose has no malice whatsoever from being strung up like a marionette and swung like a sword.

Because she's completely insane.
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>>152310510
Suffering is for Alisha.
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>>152310749
As much as I'd like that they don't have the balls to go for the full blown sociopath route.
>>152310889
Everyone can have a little suffering. Just look at how cute her face looks when she's in doubt. Almost looks like I can hug her without getting stabbed.
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>>152310973
>without getting stabbed.
Rose only kills very bad people. You got nothing to worry about, Anonymous. Love Rose without worry. It is safe.
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>>152311103

Doesn't Rose kill anybody that you can trick her into killing?

>Trust me, Alisha is trying to start war, not Mr. Incredibly Shady Politician who is hiring you to assassinate a royal princess so he can pin the blame for the false flag on the border city he wants to invade and occupy
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>>152311177
Alisha can not be trusted, anon.
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>>152309374
Yup, check Ufotable's twitter.
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>>152311103
How do you know I'm not a bad person anon?
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>>152311254
Nice source you got there.
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>>152311224
What bad things could this pure and innocent face possibly do?
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>>152311508
>the company's official twitter account
>not a source
That's how stupid your logic is.
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>>152311254
>>152311619
Was it something like?
>BD vol.X is out! Buy it now on the store!
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>>152311784
No more like, the BD is in stores Alishafags and /u/fags! There aren't much of you is there? T-Then how about you fujos? Buy it fujos, it even comes with an event ticket, y-you're not interested either? But it comes with an event ticket. N-no. Then how about you hetfags...you don't care either? Up until a few days ago the BD advertisements were plastered all over their multiple twitter accounts, and I'm not talking about just the one post that they have on it now.
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What the fuck is going on with this fujo shitposting?

Are whales really that mad they are not pushing their homo pairing?

This is honestly a very well done adaptation and so far it's much better than the game.

And stop talking about sales. Disc sales only show how many fanatical fans you have. Normal people don't buy overpriced as fuck anime BD's. On average those make only 5-7% of series revenue.

What really makes a series successful or not are merchandise sales. And Zestiria merch is doing good.
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>>152312553
It's infuriating when faggots complain about how Alisha or Rose get screentime for actually doing something and then turn around and say how the series is shit because there aren't enough pointless comedic skits about Lailah or Edna.

Don't pretend this is about the plot or sales or anything with a higher purpose. Everyone just wants to see more of their own favourite character.
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