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Two heroines that represent the cheerful kouhai archetype. One got forgotten and undeveloped, the other became one of the best parts of the spin off.

What gives? What is the secret to having a character succeed in the eyes of the fandom?
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Utaha a best. A BEST.

Eriri a shit. A SHIT.
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>>152121830
>Utaha gets rekt in the main series
>Utaha gets rekt in her own spin off
>Insecure Utahafags throw dirt on best girl
Kill yourselves.
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>>152121830
Utaha a best!
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The quality of a girl in a harem series is directly proportional to her relationship and interactions with the MC.
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Eriri a shit, Megumi a best.
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>>152121923
>Utaha gets rekt in the main series
Not without also rekting Eriri before leaving to a better story.
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>>152122085
So Izumi would have done better if she had more scenes interacting with the fag MC?
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>>152121730
Izumi is underrated.
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>>152122267
>KM
>good
KM is boring, it doesn't have good drama because there's no Eriri.
You're delusional.
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>>152122615
>there's no Eriri.
But that's a good thing.
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>>152122439
True, its a shame that she hasn't had any good exposition as she had lots of potential. Feels bad.
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>>152122300
yes, or conversely, having the hots for her onii-chan. guaranteed popularity with incest.
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>>152122615
>>152121923
But Eriri's scenes were the worst in the anime and LN.
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>>152122734
There's no hope for exposition in the anime either. Only Eriri, Megumi and Utaha exist for the anime staff.
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>>152122874
>>152122674
>>152122267
>>152122006
>>152122185
>>152121830
Fuck off, Eriri was the most complex character in Saekano. She's miles better from the Megaboring and Utahaslut.
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>>152123114
I don't get why, the same thing happened in Nisekoi with some characters getting more exposition than others.
I guess its one of the flaws of having harems with lots of girls?
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>>152123183
>trying this hard
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>>152123224
At least in Nisekoi even girls like Ruri had some promotion.
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>>152123230
Fuck off Megumifag. You're so insecure you must insult best girl, I pity you.
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>>152123519
I'm not insulting Utaha, though.
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>>152123591
>Ugly cow tits
>Posting a meme
Utaha just became irrelevant and spends her time saying vulgarities. Unlike Eriri that is going to win the bowl.
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>the other became one of the best parts of the spin off
Who? Mayu? that shit is boring desu
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>>152123370
So basically Maruto ruined Izumi and Michiru by completely ignoring them in the series. Well at least there's romantic progression and...game. Oh who I'm kidding, the series became shit long ago.
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One is a main character and a plausible candidate for the main dude's affections. The other is the opposite.
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>>152123183
>Eriri was the most complex character in Saekano.
Wew, she isn't even convoluted.
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>>152123972
As if, she has pure feelings and has waited for Tomoya the longest. She is going to win the bowl, mark my words.
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Also her design sucked in season 1, they should have introduced her with the volume 8 design.
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>>152123709
Eriri didn't even win in her own spin-off. Utaha got a kiss, a manga better than the main story and the best body and design in the series.
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>poopoo posting without his trip
>thk
>yuipollfag

we need Lelouch and TLK to complete the gang
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>>152124057
>girl who waited the longest will surely win
I'm not on the Eriri wagon, but don't even joke about that. That's mean to childhood friends.
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>>152124347
>Had to steal the kiss because the MC wouldn't fuck her
>Spin off sucks
>Ugly cow tits and fat
Keep dreaming Utahafag
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>>152124640
Megumi doesn't love the MC, she's just acting! She has you tricked /a/!
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>>152124681
>typical Eririfag bad taste
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>>152124347
>the best body and design in the series
Shame about the personality.
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>>152124939
Is Utaha a kuudere? I've tried to type her in one of the archetypes and just like Megumi I'm not sure how to classify her.
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>>152125012
She's a Senjougahara clone.
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>>152124939
I love her personality.
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>>152124939
Yeah, what is even good about her? She just teases and says vulgar stuff. Nothing interesting.
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>>152123852
But the romantic progression is good. What other reason would you read this?
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>>152121923
>Replying to to THK
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>>152127536
>Poopooman !yUwmn6l67k
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>>152127559
>Anonymous 01/11/17(Wed)15:42:16 No.152127559
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>>152127353
It could have been a comfy slice of life dealing with the life of creators and giving commentary on what makes a character good. It could have been like Oreigaru but with meta commentary about the anime industry rather than high school hjinks.

It would have been better than waifuwars bait.
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>>152121830
Utaha a best.

Eriri is fine.

Megumi a shit.
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>>152127693
Megumi a best, a best!
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>>152127693
>Eriri is fine.
No. She's not.
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>>152127828
Mayu > Megumi
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>>152127866
Utaha > both
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>>152127649
Saekano would have been better with slice of life instead of Volumes 9 and 10, but drama is what drives the story forward and keeps it interesting.
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>>152127970
Eriri > Utaha > Izumi > Michiru >>> Megushit
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>>152128128
Utaha > Mayu > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi > Iori > Akane > Machida >>>>> Eriri
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>>152128073
The drama is not even good. The author just keeps teasing with the "will they or not?" between Megumi and the indecisive MC.

Eriri isn't even part of the circle and probably will lose. As a love triangle its not WA2 tier and the game making drama is already solved too given that they don't have anything that can compare with Akane.

They should have focused on the competition between circles rather than trying to copy WA2 formula. Just like with Classroom Crisis, its like the author only knew one type of plot twist.
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>>152128197
Mayu > Megumi = Utaha >>>>> Eriri
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Eriri>Izumi>Mayu>Utaha>Megashit
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>>152128419
Utaha > Megumi > Izumi > Mayu >>>> trash >>>> Eriri
Eririfags are the cancer that ruined Saekano.
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>>152128258
It is good. The author stopped teasing in Volume 11, and they're pretty much a couple now. Instead of ending just as the couple gets together like most LNs, Saekano will actually focus on what comes after.

People in Japan are sick of Utaha and Akane, and their only interest in Eriri is in seeing her lose. Focus on the competition between circles would ruin it.
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>>152128419
I'm conflicted about you. You're an eririshitter but a silverbro in oreshura.
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>>152128514
>People in Japan are sick of Utaha and Akane, and their only interest in Eriri is in seeing her lose
Probably because the author gave them too much focus. If he had the balls to let them go and focus on the new circle instead of keeping them around even though they were no longer supposed to be relevant the second part would have been great. Instead he decided to given them 2 whole volumes which are also the worst part of the series.

Plus we don't know how many volumes the novel has, they could focus one or 2 in whatever drama they will use and end with one which wouldn't be enough to show what comes after. Chances are he also throws an open end like in most harems.
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>>152128653
In-universe it's only September, there's plenty of time to focus on how the two act after actor getting together.
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>>152128419
Eriri is a slut that deserves every loss she has faced. I can't wait to taste your salty tears.
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>>152128503
>implying Megumifags aren't HIV, Utahafags aren't AIDS, and Eririfags aren't the side effects off their disease
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>>152128814
Provided he doesn't just time skip for the epilogue.
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>>152128419
Where's the fuck's Eriri?

She got flushed down.
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>>152128872
Tsunderefags are the cancer of every fanbase.
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>>152128836
But Maruto is a hack who's only purpose is to fuck over the normalfag shippers.
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I dont know who the best girl is, but I think every sensible person can agree that Eriri is the worst by far.
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>>152121923
Eriri is so ugly
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>>152128969
>Writes a shitty tsundere character
>Makes her the main competition over Megumi instead of goddess Utaha
You're right, he's a hack.

>>152128991
This anon knows.
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>>152128873
>skipping the dance at the fireplace
>skipping Christmas
>skipping graduation

There are so many other unresolved plot points too, he can't just skip them all, not when the series still has popularity.
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>>152128904
Nah she's at my work phone
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>>152129095
>Ugly cheap phone
>Ugly tsundere shit
Suits your shit taste /a/non
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>>152129095
Utaha was lost forever though
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>>152129165
It's a work phone anon I didn't pay for it.
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>>152129095
You're co-workers better be Megumifags.
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>>152129267
Nah they got those ugly Eva straps on their phone. They're not patrician enough to even know Saekano.
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>>152129395
>Implying Saekano and its fanbase isn't shit.
Kill yourself anon
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>>152127828
She's a miracle.
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>>152129453
Meh, Mayu is better.
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>>152129520
It's close, but Mayu just doesn't have those cute moments that make Megumi so good.
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>>152129710
Because she's a more recent heroine. If she had appeared since the beginning and been the focus like Megumi has she would have just as much if not more cute moments. Mayu thrives in them because of how cheerful she is.

Now whether she could support Tomoya as well as Megumi that brought the circle together, that's something I wonder.
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>>152129453
>>152129520
>>152129710
Eriri is cuter and better than your boring lame heroines.
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>>152130116
fuck off poopooshitter
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>>152130148
Fuck you and your plebian taste.
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>>152130116
This is Eriri's cutest moment, and it's not even in Saekano's top five.
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>>152130287
Fuck off, beats the boring Skype scene. They don't even kiss!
Eriri is better than Meguboring and Utahaslut in all ways. She got a cuter chest, better personality and she loves the protagonist unconditionally.
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>13 posters

wew
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>>152130495
Both Skype scenes are way better. How Megumi reacts to not being able to kiss is so cute.

>cuter chest
>better personality
>loves the protagonist unconditionally

Those go to Megumi.
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>>152128653
But they never really get together. Megumi leaves after winter Comiket and even now they aren't a couple.
I don't see it happening.
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>>152130905
They aren't an official couple. Tomoya wants to but they probably will prevent it with some lame twist.
Then who knows how many volumes will be left, they may not show anything of their relationships which is what we were discussing.

Its not different from any other typical harem.
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>>152130495
Utaha beats Eriri in everything.
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>>152130952
>they know about each other's feelings
>they're going on a date
>they're planning to have sex
>but they're not a couple!

Look at how horny she is.
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>>152131186
They're going on a date but Maruto promised to delay the romantic development with some shitty twist.

Tomoya wants to have sex but that doesn't mean Megumi will accept just like that.
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>>152130905
Is it just the art or has Megumi become really attractive? You think the anime art does a better job making her look really average on the surface?
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>>152131305
Yeah they do, she's not supposed to be that attractive in the novel but average. Also they have sexualized her more in later volumes, probably to show that Tomoya is getting interested in her.
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>>152131244
Maruto never said that. He's just introducing some conflict, that's all.
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>>152130994
Only thing she beats Eriri in is being a shit.
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>>152131398
No, that's Eriri's area of expertise.
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>>152131374
>Epilogue 2
>“Let’s see… for me…”
>“….I don’t really want a “twist”, I think.”

>And then…
>The awaited day after tomorrow.
>September 23, 12 AM.
>Just a little while before the meeting time.
>“…., …….!”
>“Eh? What? Sorry, I couldn’t hear you…” (Tomoya)
>From that phone call which wasn’t too clear because of the noise.
>“…………………………….”
>“Wha—Wait for a second! Who did…”

>The “twist” that she didn’t wish for…
>…in that moment, has finally come.

It will probably take what, one or 2 volumes to be solved. With the series almost over, that doesn't really leave enough time to show them after they fully commit to a relationship.

Now a third arc with them in college and in a relationship would be cool. Like WA2's Closing Chapter.
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>>152131471
>implying it's not Megumi's
Utaha is ranked no.2 in a shit factor though
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>>152131571
Utaha is a goddess and is too good for someone as lame as Tomoya.
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>>152131482
Most people in Japan speculate either meeting with Eriri or something to do with Megumi's parents as the "twist" which really is closer to conflict. It'll probably only take one volume to resolve, and after that they'll be a full-fledged couple. They're only in September, and the LN has to last until graduation.
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>>152131636
Hope so, they make a nice couple and they have lots of potential if their relationship is developed beyond love triangle drama.
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>>152131571
implying I care about THKs opinion.
>inb4 meta THK
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>>152131739
THK > you
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>replying to tripfags
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>>152131707
There definitely is, one problem they've already raised is what the two will do about Tomoya's future.
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>>152131759
Implying I care about THKs(You) opinion.
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>>152131838
You care enough to keep replying :^)
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>>152131636
It's going to be Eriri getting shipped to America on the same day as the date and Tomoya chasing after her.
Maybe Utaha going into a coma and everyone becomes best buddies because Utaha shit is now a vegitable.
Or Eriri running away after she spots
Tomoya and Megumi on their date, followed by Megumi telling Tomoya to chase after her.

I wouldn't be surprised if the hack Maruto pulls something like that.
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>>152132184
INB4 Megumi loses her memories in a tragic accident and Tomoya has to use the game to remind her of their relationship.
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>>152131859
Same goes to you (o 3 <)
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>>152132184
At this point Tomoya cares more about Megumi than he does Eriri. He doesn't consider Eriri in a romantic light anymore and is utterly clueless on who Megumi doesn't want to be seen by with him.
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>>152132246
But the plan backfires because she doesn't like the way the game portrays her and she cuts all contact from the circle.
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>>152132334
We'll just have to wait for the "twist" heres me hoping that it's going to be a wacky mystery arc after Tomoya, Eriri and Megumi catch Utaha slutting around with a dirty old man.
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>>152132341
That'd be a Bad End fitting for a hack like Maruto.
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>>152132485
Utaha shouldn't even be in the story anymore. Maruto should have had the balls to force her to move away for college.
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>>152132334
Being this dense, what are you doing Maruto!
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>>152132612
Or as a UNICEF volunteer in africa
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Utaha should rape Tomoya and finally be at peace.
>>152132612
Or relegate her to supporting status. Heroines should get proper closure.
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>121 posts
>15 posters
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>>152132804
Welcome to every Saekano thread newfriend
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>>152132748
V7 was good closure though. Moving away would have made it complete.
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>>152132804
All actual fans have been driven away. This is a wasteland where only shitposters are left.
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>>152132842
This, Saekano would have been better without Eriri and Utaha. Or if they kept them, they should have been rivals and give the focus to Izumi, Iori and Michiru.
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>>152132703
With Megumi, he was surprisingly non-dense.
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>>152132896
>one of the main posters is literally a guy named poopooman
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>>152132959
Actually he sucked at understanding her, that's why she dumped his ass after Winter Comiket. That's also why he lost Eriri and Utaha, he has failed at understanding any of his companions since the beginning and he hasn't gotten any better.

He sucks as MC.
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>>152133079
That was four volumes ago. He's developed since then. By the end he knew Megumi wanted him to push her down on a bed and fuck her without her explicitly telling him.
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>>152133191
But does he? The story is given in his point of view. She seemed okay with the kiss in the Skype scene but that doesn't mean she automatically wants sex.
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>>152133314
He knows her pretty well. There's so much sexual tension between them that if they kissed, they wouldn't stop at just kissing. Megumi knows this with how she acts distant to him at school. She doesn't know if she can control herself.
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>>152132842
Then the author dun goofed. Don't backpedal, it's just insulting. It's commendable to even give non-OTP characters closure because it means you actually care about them beyond their usefulness.
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>>152133448
Actually she seems more worried about Eriri than Tomoya. While that may happen, that doesn't mean its because he's good at understanding her, just that he's too pushy and somehow he got her to like him because plot. She lacks standards, she could get a better chad anytime.
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>>152133623
Well its not like Saekano is a masterpiece in writing. He probably got afraid they would stop selling if he ended their plot lines so he decided to drag them into the mud.

I don't think he has written anything good since WA2.
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>>152133623
It's sad that we'll never see Maruto's original vision. Part 2 was probably going to be shorter than Part 1, but then the series got massively popular and he had to extend it.
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>>152133664
>she could get a better chad anytime
welcome to any harem novel
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>>152133664
She acted more distant than usual after the kiss scene though. She wasn't even willing to walk to school with him. And say what you will, but the reasons for Megumi falling for him are good. Other guys would treat her with too little affection or too much to the point it feels fake.
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>>152133846
It seemed to be more that she was afraid Tomoya was playing with her feelings like with the others. Once he communicated his intentions to have a real date she seemed more comforted, and that was because they lacked communication.

>Other guys would treat her with too little affection or too much to the point it feels fake.
How can anyone believe this? There's plenty of guys that aren't in the NiceGuysTM or asshole category and Tomoya falls more in the asshole category. There's a whole spectrum of guys so its impossible to reduce them to just those categories and all those could work well with Megumi, its just not realistic.
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>>152133962
>It seemed to be more that she was afraid Tomoya was playing with her feelings like with the others

This had a lot to do with it too. She just doesn't know how to act around him since she can't stay flat.

She's really cute, so most guys that meet with her would flirt with her too much and come off as fake. She explains it to him in the Skype scene. Since she's a introvert who's always on her phone, she doesn't have any ordinary male friends.
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>>152134138
>so most guys that meet with her would flirt with her too much and come off as fake.
Does everyone in her universe do this? Because I can't see it IRL. And given her standards it would be pretty easy for someone with experience to find the correct level of flirting.

I can believe the introvert thing though, if she doesn't go out of home and just stays on the phone she'll never meet any guy better than Tomoya.
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>>152134230
>if she doesn't go out of home and just stays on the phone she'll never meet any guy better than Tomoya

And that's why he got her. Well, and most guys would initially find her boring and move on to better targets. Tomoya did, and he only stuck with her because he was dead set on turning her into a typical moe heroine.
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>>152121830
Eriri a best.
Megumi a okay
Utaha a shit.
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>>152135895
Any ranking is fine by me as long as Utaha is near the bottom.
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>>152121830
Utaha isn't even the best of her own manga.
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>>152121830
I wonder who's behind this post.
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So when Megumi wins when does the Meguri ryona/NTR/rape doujins hit?
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>>152139148
As soon as Eriri sees them together. She was merciless with the Koisuru Metronome ones.
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>>152121730
>Every day is a forced daily shitstorm thread
Always the same group of posters baiting and shitting all day. Saekano being deemed worst fanbase is well deserved.
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>>152139494
But this thread has actual discussion.
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>>152139627
>80% of the thread is blatant to thinly-veiled mai waifu > your waifu
>actual discussion
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>>152140280
>ignoring discussion of the LN
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>>152140420
The 20%. Proud of that, are you now?
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>>152141299
Dammit anon now I'm hungry.
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>>152140493
Not much different from other harems.
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>>152139423
She did that to the Koisuru MMetronome heroines? Savage. Did it have any reason to do with Utaha trying to bark up Tomoya's tree?
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>>152143895
She just hates Utaha and knows KM's main heroine was modeled after Utaha herself.
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>>152144141
So it has nothing to do with Tomoya? They always seemed to get along with things that aren't Tomoya.
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>>152144613
It does. If Tomoya wasn't around, Eriri would have a much higher opinion of Utaha.
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>>152121730
>good character design
>meh story
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>>152149504
Saekano's story is great.
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