Fall sales What went so right? 50,000 Yuri! It is! It is! On

Have we ever had a season where all the top five sellers were fujoshit before?

>>152035896
>**, 343 Nambaka
Sad.

>>152035896
>50,000 Yuri! It is! It is! On ICE
>20,632 Touken Ranbu - Hanamaru -
>11,546 Haiku !! Kurano High School VS Shiratorosawa Gakuen High School
>* 9, 860 DRIFTERS
>* 8,026 Bunraku Stray Dogs 2nd Cool
If there was anybody who was unsure that fujoshi are truly beginning to dominate, this season is the proof

>>152035896
can you fuck off already?

>>152035896
Utapri when?

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>>152035896
>Yuri! It is! It is! On ICE
>It is! It is!

What did they mean by this?

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>>152036092
>>152036256
Feels good.

>>152035896
It's over, the fujos won

>>152036256

Fujoshit sells good for years. It still sells less than yuribait heavy hitters like LL or Madoka though.

And disc sales barely even matter anymore. It's all about merch and streaming $.

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>>152036326
>disc sales barely even matter anymore

>>152036318
>>152036320
retarded newcancer

you probably never even bought merchs which is where yurifags shine on. and you will never win the otaku power since females also support our industry and yuri newcunts


you didn't win shit


>>152036426
as expected, hibefags are fujoshits

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flip flappers is not even on the list

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>>152036421
sou ka

>disc sales barely even matter anymore
>biggest source of income doesnt matter

Hehe

>>152036421
>>152036451
There, there. No reason to be upset.

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>>152036465
not strong, fujo

>>152036487
not mad just posting. Also you can stop claiming that you win something cause you didn't

>>152036463
it's good. A good show doesn't necessarily supposed to get fame and popularity

>>152036463
It isnt called flip floppers for nothing

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>>152036451
>hibefags are fujoshits

2016 fall anime was shit and some of the shows that the fujo were drawn too was the only interesting shows in that season.

>>152036962
yes

>watched 15 Fall shows
>only 3 listed

How should I feel about that?

>>152037085
good because the majority of the shows from Fall were shit anyway

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>Kyoani has the highest non-fujoshit show

Hmm really makes you think

Despite it being mediocre at best, I wtach Trickster. Anyone know how that faired in sales? Not that i'm expecting anything at all

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>>152036426

Have fun. Literally less than 5%.

>>152036451
>which is where yurifags shine on
Where?

>>152038126
When you stop baiting this where

>>152037900
You dont want to know.

>>152038053
>not knowing the difference between late night anime and animation in general
Can you imagine being this retarded?

>>152036256
At least Drifters and Haikyuu are good for non-fujos.

Flib flabbers status?

Yuri fags on suicide watch

>>152038284
How can someone retarded imagine being retarded?

>>152038313
Flopped hard

>>152038313
More like Flip Floppers LOL

>>152038248
I'm expecting something below Nambaka

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>>152038313
Less than Gakuen Handsome it seems.

>>152038530
Its not out yet, but I wouldnt get your hopes up.

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>>152035896
>929 Occultic; Nine
Holy shit! Was it really that bad? Were the tits too strong?

Every Winter show other than KonoSuba and maybe LWA will flop.

Didn't previous seasons of Natsume sell better?

>>152036256
I'm really getting tired of this fujo runing anime meme.
Putting aside that Yuri was actually good for everyone, if you removed it the rest of the sales would look like every other season, complete with some good shit not selling anything, and shit selling too much

>>152038861
LWA will sell 3k max

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Vivid Strike being in the top 10 gives me hope that it gets a second season.

>>152038949
Have you looked at stalker lately? 5k+.

>>152039901
Wait till episode 3 for a more accurate prediction because LWA is an existing property so it gets a boost in the beginning that may not carry through till the end.

>>152039901
It doesnt have any points
I doubt it

>>152040009
Episode 3 may not be all that indicative since people that went to the 1-3 screening said the stand-out episode so it may get a boost that may not last.

>>152040228
Yeah of course. Just generally if something looks like a flop by week 3 its probably RIP. But shows could still go down. Izetta was predicted for 7k at one point.

>>152040009
Ao no Exorcist S2 is also an existing property and it didn't climb at all.

>>152036326
>thinking LL and Madoka only sell as yuribait
Holy shit you are delusional, those are both almost normalfag tier shows. Everyone and their mom plays Love Live and Madoka is insanely popular with most demographics that watch any type of anime.

>>152040351
Guess it was gone for too long. Looks like a big flop if it could carry over an audience.

>>152036548
>mix of characters
>not a shrine to a single character like what you're replying to
Weak.

>>152040402
Couldn't

>>152038313
Wasn't around the 500? Maybe >>152038557 is right.

>>152040466
No. Its predicted at around 1.9k but 400 of that is in DVDs that won't rank. Its probably overestimated though.

>>152035896
>* 7,489 Echo! Euphonium 2

That's what Kyoanus get for baiting and not fully committing to the yuri.

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>Exactly 50k

Right?

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>>152040552
Yeah because the other yurishit shows sell so well right

>>152040563
It'll be 56k in 13 hours to be fair.

Yuri on Ice isn't fujo
Haikyuu isn't fujo
Utapri isn't fujo
Drifters isn't fujo
Stray Dogs isn't fujo

>>152040563
50,878.
Anon is obviously trying to downplay Yuri on Ice. It should be rounded to 51k.

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I can't wait to see Classicaloid sell 40 more copies than series that got threads.

>>152040619
But bait is.

>>152040929
It was pretty disappointing so far though.

>>152040929
Isnt it estimated at like 400? Its probably underestimated because of its female base but still.

>>152036256
>>152036092
Then why did Gakuen handsome did so poorly? ;_;

>>152040929
Isn't state financed or something like that? Like that one puzzles anime.

>>152041299
It did fine for a short actually.

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50k and still no decent doujins

Does anyone know which skater Kubo wanted to rape/assault? I'm a bit curious.

>>152041299
It's funded by Japanese Kickstarter, it already got paid beforehand.

>top 5 are homosex

Disgusting, japan needs to get nuked again.

>>152040619
>YoI not fujo
Nani
Right on the next three and I dunno about Stray Dogs

>>152041540
Have you not checked sadpanda?

So what are the big fujo shows this season? I know there's Yowapeda season 3, but what else?

>>152041819
Super Lovers kek

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>>152041819

>20,632 Touken Ranbu - Hanamaru -
What the fuck did people see in this show? They're satisfied just by seeing their favorite dull game character in TV show? It was boring as fuck, it failed as slice of life and it failed as any kind of show. Where are your standards?

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>>152035896
>It's almost flat!

>>152041922
Same thing as KanColle.

>>152041819
ACCA
Marginal #4
Gintama
Ao no Exorcist
Tales? Season 1 sold like shit.

>>152040412
this is a fujo thing

cancer

but there some waifufags that does it. but it doesn't equal waifus since fujo is cancer by default.

>>152041922
they put all the fucbois in there instead of MUH FUBUKI like the competition

>>152041922
This, I saw the first episode and that was it, absolute shit with no pacing whatsoever, a truckload of dudes in an absent scenario.

>>152042155
>fujo money isn't real because they're cancer
weak.

>>152041922
It had a song about making noodles with your feet.

>>152036478
>>biggest source of income doesnt matter

>>152041922
Agreed. It was incredibly uninspired. There are so many other ways you can do a mobage inspired anime, this wasn't it.

>>152035896
does this mean sexism is over?

>>152042155
>this is a fujo thing
>but there some waifufags that does it

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>>152041922
The EDs were really nice, but the rest was awfully paced. Still enjoyable if you liked the characters though.
Let's hope that ufo will do a better job.

>>152035896
>It's almost flat!
The fuck is this?

>>152042219
Wasn't it literally just meant to be a slice of life showcase of all the swordgirls (male) to set up for the next Touken Ranbu-anime that will be more action-focused?

>>152042217
That sounds unsanitary ad unappetizing

>>152042190
>>152042264
Yes we talk about money?

you talk about an individual/additional character dedication vs mass purchase then

and then you spout shit like
>>not a shrine to a single character like what you're replying to

Are you a fujo by any chance?

>>152042299
Next show is completely different studio and staff but if the point was to get more people into it through this then they made a mistake. Literally only game fans could enjoy this.

>>152042299
No. They are unrelated anime. Wouldnt be surprised if this one does better though because fujos dont give a fuck about action

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>>152042163
You seem to be unable to realize that you are the furthest thing from the show's target audience, Anonymous. I wonder, do you also expect fujo to enjoy Highschool DxD?

>>152042366
>history drama
Fujos will love it.

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>>152041959
>>152042290

>>152042367
I'm a fujo and even I can see that it was pretty bad.

>>152042367
It's not about target audience, it's about the show being objectively bad anime which does nothing else than add a new boring character to the cast every episode.

>>152036092
>>152036256
>Drifters
>fujoshit
??????????

>>152041922
They probably added a code to some rare card for the mobagay in the DVDs or something

>>152042367
But anon, I'm a fujo. Just one that wasn't into it but wanted to see what the hype was all about.
I was dissapointed.

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>>152042316
It is the traditional method of superior nihon spaghetti.

>>152042446
Fujos like action shows with a cast full of dudes because there are dudes doing dude things, and Drifters is an action show with a cast full of dudes, therefore, Drifters is a fujo show.
That is how the logic of the current crop of /a/nons work.

>>152042391
I don't know what you are expecting from Ufo but you'll probably be disappointed. It will be all flashy fights with the worst swordsluts and do worse than a shitty SOL show.

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>>152042367
I'm a fujo and I love DxD
Kiba is best boy.

>>152042426
I'm not a fujo, but I thought the first episode was /okay/. I just couldn't keep track of all the characters. I imagine the show was, more than anything, for fans of the actual game.
Which I've heard is pretty popular.

>>152042148
Since when we call Gintama fujobait? The most popular ship (which is gay) won't even be together this season.

>>152042577
Gintama has always been huge with fujos, Anon. You have to have literally been under a rock.

>>152042148
Tales stopped being fujobait when Ufo committed suicide and cut the fujo scenes for waifufagging. It bombed.

>>152042525
By that logic, anything with more than a couple good looking guys in it is a fujo show. Ridiculous. You'd call almost anything fujo show if you really believe this.

>>152036463
>>152038313
It was the last to finish, remember?
Still no concrete data.

>>152042606
I'm a fujo and GinHiji is literally the only ship I've been obsessed with for years. I know how big it is but this doesn't make it a fujo show. Fujos are just a part of its audience but it targets a much bigger and diverse audience just like many shounens do. By that logic, you'd call even One Piece a fujo show. They're not. They just have fujos in their big audience as well.

>>152042735
Flip Flappers 2017/01/06
Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love Legend Star 2017/01/11
Bernard-jou Iwaku. 2017/01/20
3-gatsu no Lion 2017/01/25
All Out!! 2017/01/25
Fune wo Amu 2017/01/25
Classicaloid 2017/01/27
Soushin Shoujo Matoi 2017/01/27
Trickster: Edogawa Ranpo Shounen Tanteidan yori 2017/01/27
Idol Memories 2017/02/03
Anitore! XX 2017/02/24
Brave Witches 2017/02/24
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Tekketsu no Orphans 2nd Season 2017/02/24
Mahou Shoujo Nante Mou Ii Desukara. 2nd Season 2017/02/24
Teekyuu 8 2017/02/24

>tfw too smart to like fujobait shows

>>152041818
>Pre episode 7 doujins
Mostly shit

>>152042869
Then you, oh so smart anon, should really like Yoi.

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>* 8,026 Bunraku Stray Dogs 2nd Cool
I'm happy with this, I don't know if it has enough material for an S3 but I've love more.

Glad to see YOI do good as well, The soundtrack alone deserved it.

where is All out!! ?

>>152042565
>15 fucking chapters of yaoi Ise x Kiba h-manga
What the hell is wrong with those girls?

>>152035896
> Nambaka
This is sad. At least, we got s2.

>>152043119
>>152042866
Not out yet.

>>152041299
That is more like satire

>>152035896
Holy shit

Occultic;Nine was underrated, it deserved better. I hope Chaos;Child gets more attention.

>>152036256
You just aren't buying enough for your waifu. No ones fault but your own.

>>152035896
>* 7,489 Echo! Euphonium 2
KyoAni does it again.
>* 1,008 Garish Number
That's what happens when you make a bitch the main character. Justice was served today.

Why do fujoshits have to ruin everything?

>>152047039
Fujos are strong
And the weak should fear the strong

>>152047039
Cry more, you little bitch.

>>152047039
What are they ruining exactly anon? Legit curious anon.

I was thinking of watching YOI but seeing its fanbase behave in such a smug way made me change my mind, thank you OP

>>152047039
>Why do fujoshits have to ruin everything?
Wouldn't it be the male NEETs ruining everything? Since they're the ones refusing to spend money and thus allowing the fujoshits to take over.

>>152047423
>it's okay for a whole board to shit on a series solely because it's gay rather than because it's bad, but it's wrong for fans to be happy it sold well and feel smug about all the haters getting BTFO
If /a/ was fair and reasonable, nobody would have any reason to gloat. But they've been enraged about women and homos getting something instead of them, and entitled cunts deserve to have it's success rubbed in their face.

>>152047039
There's nothing you from supporting the shows you like.

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>>152036465
>>152036548
female otaku loyalty strong compared to opposite sex.

>>152047039
>fujos stay in their own threads and have their own series and don't force their fetishes unto others
>ruin everything
I mean, you could complain about cucks, yurishitters, solfags, but no, somehow fujoshis touched you in the nuts.

>>152047783
As a fujo I must clarify I am not touching Anon in the nuts but I am eagerly watching to see if the other Anon (male) will do so.

>>152048090
seconding this.

>>152047533
good points, agree with the sentiment and appreciate the honest opinion, only the OP (not talking about the fans as a whole) could have accomplished that without making fun of other anime. I wasn't being serious about this post btw >>152047423 , it was meant to discourage further attacks to other anime

Flip floppers numbers when? I need a laugh.

>>152042446
>>152042707
Not sure if troll, retard, or fujoshit pretending.?M?

>>152048601
Less than 12 hours.

>>152035896
It was obvious that male otaku is gonna go for different thing while anime will become mostly female orientated.
If the fact that lolicon fanservice basically died from anime wasn't a clear enough sign for you, then I don't know what could have been.

>>152048419
Pretty sure that OP's "what went right" was a riff off of this post from a couple days ago? >>151956594

can someone explain this sales thing to a newshitter?

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>>152042800
GinHiji and Okikagu are god tier.

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>>152040619
> Stray Dogs isn't fujo
WHAT?.

More Double black and New double black please.

>>152048917
These are disc sales. People use them to see the popularity of a series and sequel potentional. Different anime generally need different things for sequels so comparing them directly isn't always too helpful. On /a/ its mainly a dick measuring thing.

>>152035896
>**, 715 Homeroom !!!!!!!!
Holy fuck subs NEVER EVER

>>152049016
Ah I see. Thanks

Wouldn't broadcast viewership be a better measure of popularity/success?

>>152035896
How the hell did Nanbaka get another season?

>>152047039
Fujos really support their show by buy a BD
While average /a/ anon does nothing but whining

>>152049095
No. Seasonal anime are late night anime and get absolute shit viewership ratings.

>>152049127
It was planned that way before it aired.

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im dont really into ecnomics and shit or animu news

so let me get this straight, 15k sales are them breaking even?
would 30k be good?
45 is great?
60 is a hit?

regardless of whether i like it or not, im glad to hear it sold well. a lot of love was put into it on both sides and this paves the way even a bit for fujos as a market

>>152049280
Depends on the show. Some people say 3k is enough BD sales for merch to cover the rest and break even. 10k being enough for BD sales along to cover the costs. 50k is funding like 5 cours of anime.

>>152038828
it was one of the best shows last season
strongest direction ive seen in a while

>>152049280
>would 30k be good?
Yes
>45 is great?
Yes
>60 is a hit?
A "hit" is a bit of an underestimate

>>152049280
Honestly 3-5k can be great depending on the show type, 50k is ridiculously good.

>magical girl training plan
did you use google translate

>>152049280
Let me put it this way: Yuri on Ice volume one week one sales paid for a little less than 1.5 cours of an average anime.

>>152049280
Assuming that an average anime costs 2,5 million dollars to make (which is incredibly supercheap, and a large part of that money isn't even used for animation, but rather to host related events or promote the show for merchandising), and a disc is around 60 dollars on average (around 55 for a dvd, 65 for a bluray, so let's go with the middle), around 40k discs ought to be sold total for the show to make back all its entire investment.
The total includes ALL discs from all volumes.
So yes, Yuri on Ice has already made back all its investment through the large number of volume 1 disc sales.

>>152040619
>Yuri on Ice isn't fujo
Yeah sure

>>152049394
You only just work that out?

>>152048917
This is what /a/ does instead of console wars

>>152035896
Event ticket, expect drop for vol 2

>>152049487
Yes. All of them use event tickets.

>>152035896
I just don't understand how people can have such utterly abysmal taste. Is being pandered to enough to "like" a show?

>>152049487
Expect a drop for all of them.

>>152049280

I'm assuming you have brain damage because of how your post was constructed.

Generally:
Big numbers are GOOD
Small numbers are BAD

Manabi Line (~3k) = rough threshold for some kind of profitability (varies depending on the show, since not all shows have the same requirements to be profitable). Many shows do less than 10k and still return on their investments.

Series-themed events and merch sales are also huge factors for success but we cannot track how much revenue they bring in per series. Hence relentless dick measuring contests through BD/DVD sales.

Shows above 30k have hit some kind of mainstream appeal outside of the niche otaku market. >60k is wide appeal and >80k is a classic/incredible hit.

YoI could conceivably get to the 80k mark over its six discs. It'd be a bit of a stretch, though. For comparison, shows in the >80k club include Madoka, Bakemonogatari, Osomatsu-san, and Evangelion.

>>152040351
>>152040402
BD sales are irrelevante for Ao no exorcist

>>152049544
Sure. Also, anime discs tend to have improved and fixed scenes, making it worthwhile enough for the fans to own them.

>>152049565
Are we talking about one volume with 80k? Or 80 average? Because none of those have a 80k average.

>>152035896
>Keijo sold so badly it's not even on the list.

Season 2 never.

Male otakus stopped buying anime. They are now spending money on mobages like FGO.

>>152049280
Each volume is roughly $60, and contains 2 episodes
10k sales is ~$600,000 which basically covers the costs of 4 episodes (estimated at around $145,000) by itself, not taking into account increased sales of original product or merchandise

On average a 12 episode series only needs to maintain an average of 4.8-5k per volume to break even, if Yuri on Ice keeps those figures it's effectively worth enough to pay for 9 complete flops from the same committee

>>152049643
Hence making anime that promotes mobage is important.

Too bad for /a/ that /a/ generally abhors mobage adaptations.

I wonder how much the 4th and 5th volumes of YoI will sell. Episode 7 and 10 are by far the most popular episodes and if they uncensor the kiss they can boost the sales even more.

Event ticket or no event ticket, anime usually has a 15%+ drop volume one to volume 2. When the number is high the drop is even larger. Just look at Osomatsu or Madoka.

>>152049782
Generally popular episodes dont have an effect on volume sales unless its uncensoring nipples.

>>152049723
it's all the same shit game with different characters.

>>152049723
You're talking as if Japan liked mobage adaptations. The only well-regarded mobage adaptation is Cinderella Girls.

ok got it. thanks senpaitachi for clearifying it

>>152049565
>I'm assuming you have brain damage because of how your post was constructed.
>Generally:
>Big numbers are GOOD
>Small numbers are BAD

??
i dont know how you took that i wouldnt know that aready senpai. i wanted to know the average spectrum of profit.

>>152049621

Lifetime sales. First volume sales are usually inflated due to event tickets coming packaged with the BDs. There's a drop-off as people don't buy the next discs in the series for various reasons (waiting for prices to drop, only cared about the event, only going to buy the discs with their favourite episodes/characters, etc.). Some incredibly popular shows get close to 80k with the first disc but it's very very rare. YoI doing 50k is worthy of mention by itself since most "hits" get around 10k for the first week.

The best indicator for success is waiting for total sales for all volumes. But there's no guessing and less room for shitposting by the time that information is available. If you don't want to wait for real information, look at the gap between sales for discs 1 and 2. There will always be a drop-off, but the steeper the drop-off the less likely the show will hit some magical number indicating "success".

Naturally, shows that sell less than 1k for their first volumes are probably not going to be profitable (from disc sales alone) even with lifetime totals.

>>152049782
There's a bonus manga you can get if you buy all 6, right? I wonder how many want it.

>>152049851

You type like a moron. Capitalize your shit properly and don't use punctuation as substitutes for words.

>>152049856
Lifetime sales of what? An average across all volumes? Because no anime has done an 80k average since FMA. Bake came close with 76k.

>>152049643
how badly does torrenting affect the industry anyway?

>>152049927
There are maybe 10x as many normalfags streaming from funi and CR than there are people torrenting new anime.

And about 100x that many chinks streaming

>>152049927
Obviously, the nip producers themselves hate it, because they'd rather that all those viewers used streaming services at least (nips of course ought to use stuff like abema TV, Gyao!, Google Play and so on, foreigners use whatever they have available).

But all in all, it doesn't really hurt the industry. It just means slightly less money in the pockets of an already rich as fuck cabal of companies that own the intellectual properties.

>>152049927
Most people who torrent either wouldn't buy anything or aren't in a position to without eating ass on import tax.

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>>152049782
I feel it's kinda odd that a person would buy vol 1, and other volumes but not all of them. Who the hell doesn't want every single episode? That would trigger me to see someone have vol 1. 5.8. of anything. Does Japan do box sets?

Why do people laugh at good shows flopping? Are you naturally a piece of trash? Why do people not blame the audience themselves instead of implying the quality of the anime has any effect on the sales? Why do people use sales to justify their taste?

>>152050194
Sometimes, but that's often years after, and only if they really believe that a show has enough fans to want to buy it.

>>152050194

They do, with caveats: >>152050297
. But BDs are expensive as hell so many people just pick and choose the discs with their favourite episodes/bonuses they like. I don't blame them, honestly- it'd trigger me to have gaps in my collection but with how much money it costs to get the complete set without waiting for it to be boxed I can see why people do it.

>>152050293
These threads are a dick measuring contest. Flip Flappers is popular on air and not going to sell well. Of course its going to get laughed at.

knowing how mappa made so many teekyu seasons, does this mean they will make at least two more seasons of yoi?

>>152035896
>* 1,008 Garish Number

wew

>>152050293
>Why do people laugh at good shows flopping
more like
>Why do fans of shows flopping try shitting on other shows

>>152050350

They were paid to do Teekyu. YoI is their own original. But since it's their biggest success yet they will probably do S2 for more dosh.

>>152050293
Because quite frankly most of them really aren't worth owning that much.
I don't mind watching most of the shows that aired Fall 2016. But I wouldn't really break a leg to buy them. And I did buy the discs for some of those shows that aired in Spring 2015.

>>152035896
>* 1,291 Burning table tennis girl
How can they be in the top 10 of so many rankings but sold this poorly?

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>>152050350
>2 more seasons
Even though I'm a fujo who loved the series, please no. 2 seasons is enough. Anymore will be shit unless they change the main characters. I don't want to see Victor and Yuri's retarded misunderstanding drama continue, just let them be happy and move on.

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>>152050350
They could actually show Yuuri winning 5 gold medals if they want now, it would get stale though.

>>152050293
/a/ is a shitposting board just like /v/ or /tv/, it's not some beacon of proper taste and never was

>>152050473
>Oh I love this series but I'm not going to spend a dime on it lol. Wait, why is it doing poorly? This is the fujos fault.

>>152050473
You seem to be under the impression that 2ch buys shit.

>>152050473
Because only diehard otaku buy BDs

But I thought Newtype said BSD was the most popular anime of the season?

>>152050473
Do you honestly believe the show to be worth buying?
If yes, you ought to buy it right now, no matter how bad your financial situation. Being from a region that wouldn't be able to play the discs isn't an excuse either. You can still watch the show with fansubs after you bought the discs and showed the producers that yes, there is an audience for this kind of anime that most likely wants a continuation in animated form. Just buy the discs and show that you supported it.

>>152047714
>every object lovingly framed in perfectly fitting individual frame

fuck it, I can't compete with this level of insane dedication, fujos win

>>152050604
No let anime die.

>>152050536
In the end, nip redditors are still just redditors, no matter how much huehue weeaboos glorify 2ch.

>>152049622
heard that it had over 39,809,300 total views in China ( http://v.pptv.com/page/ibUgkogpw4B6Bic2c.html ), depending on how the licensing was made, it probably paid itself already

>>152050960
Parroting an ANN meme is low.

>>152050960
>forgetting that most streaming money is a lump sum for international rights packages

>>152050960
It made a total of 0.00 yen!

>>152036256
Pirating anime has its price.

>>152050960
It would make 390k total on youtube with those views.

>>152051493
That would pay for a couple of episodes then.

>>152051508
Like two episodes.

>>152051518
I've read reports that episode costs can be as low as $60k or as high as $200-300k on more lavish productions but yeah as I said probably a couple of episodes.

>>152051552
Unless there is a huge manga boost, I don't see Keijo breaking even.

Disc sales don't matter much compared to legal worldwide streaming anyway.

>>152051750
If only international money weren't less than 20% of revenue.

>>152038053

Can someone translate this?

>>152051750
t. Miles

>>152049565
I think more than 80k of lifetime sales is probably very likely. I mean, 50k the first volume is amazing, and that's not even counting the discs with the kiss scene, the proposal or the pair skating. Those discs might even have sales around the first disc, if not more.

>>152051405
>>152051429
>>152051493
>>152051750
>>152051786
do you have a source for this?

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>>152052345
By 2020 they are predicting streaming will come close to overtaking DVD/BD for revenue.

>>152052607
Is this supposed to be proof that disc sales are less important than streaming? Because it sort of proves the opposite.

>>152052743
It's supposed to show the fact of the matter. Posts you linked were from both sides of the argument. None of which were mine. It shows that they are certainly a significant source of income that the industry only expects to grow but out of the two currently BD is a fair bit more significant still to the industry while streaming isn't insignificant by any means.

>>152042148
Discount Gintamma and Marginal and you'd be right for the most part.

I forgot. That ensemble thing was happening in spring, right?

>>152050782
Probably not a fujo, just a female otaku. There is a difference.

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>>152042707

>>152054676
so yuri on ice is a fujo-yuri-shoujo-forced drama-pretentious-trainwreckshit?
i learn something new every day

Update on flim flammers?

>>152054733
Yes.

>>152054766
6 hours ish.

>Fujoshi is a term for girls who like homo relationships
>Yuri on Ice has a homo duo as mains
>"It's not fujo"

>>152054733
>Yuri on Ice
>is yurishit
I knew it!

>>152054896
Fujo is where it just teases gay shit without actually going anywhere. Putting characters in homo erotic situations except they are still straight. Stuff like that.

Yuri on Ice is straight up faggot shit. For the most part.

>>152054914
It was in front of us all along.

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>>152054914
Of course it's yurishit, there's two of them.

>>152054896
Is Super Lovers not fujoshit?

>>152055034 meant for >>152054987

>>152055034
Super Lovers is literal BL so do the math

>>152055075
I meant for the "fujo is only teasing" definition.

>>152055034
That's BL though, so obviously it's for fujos. I think other anon was referring to anime not labeled BL

>>152054987
>Fujo is where it just teases gay shit without actually going anywhere. Putting characters in homo erotic situations except they are still straight. Stuff like that.
That's fujobait, not a fujoshow.

>>152035896
> 3,970 Saint Seiya Golden Soul - soul of gold-
HOW??

Who thought making a rusky and a nip gay for each other was a good ideia? these countries are homophobic as fuck, I'm surprised no famous russian figure said something negative.

>>152055190
It's escapism. Anything is acceptable.

>>152055190
Because YoI's world is an AU in that regard and in fiction you can do anything.

>>152047039
Only women are dumb enough to pay 3 digits for 3 episodes.

>>152055190
>homophobic
That's exactly why, mate. Why else do you people make jokes about closet gays being the biggest and most vocal homophobes. Or uber conservative nations with crazy laws against sex also the one with shit ton of sexual crimes.

>>152055034

Two types of fujoshit.

1) BL: the romance comics between men that are usually absolute shit. They're more the fetishization of being gay than actually for gay men to read and enjoy. (But we're both guys! But he's a man! We can't do this sort of thing, it's wrong!. etc.)

2) Shows that prominently feature attractive men in some homoerotic situations (usually played off as gags or outright ignored by the characters involved) so fujos can feel appreciated when they watch.

YoI is definitely more of a type 2, but it's aware of how serious the romance is and doesn't try to play it off for laughs. It's basically a proper story that doesn't try to make a big deal about how forbidden the love between the MCs is while providing a bevy of attractive young men for almost every taste to ship.

>>152055190
Russia's top female skater is in love with the show, their male skaters have been silent though.

>>152055504
Most russian top skaters nowadays are female

>>152055504
Plushenko tweeted about it early on but it's obvious he never watched it. Though it's funny how Weir has made self insert BaldFat tweets with him and Plushenko.

>>152045994
I love this but I think it needs more caps of faggots saying "waah waah it won't sell"

>>152055710
What was the tweet? I've heard this but never saw it.

>>152055376
There are actually four.
1) BL
2) Fujopander
3) Fujobait
4) Shows that fujoshi lach onto.

YOI would be 2nd category.

>Yuri on Ice that high
>DRIFTERS that low
fucking fujoshits
also LOL Nambaka, how the fuck do you have lower sales than Gakuen Handsome?

>>152055810
The BaldFat one?

>https://twitter.com/JohnnyGWeir/status/811237818941001728

>>152055824
What's the difference between fujopander and fujobait?

>>152056172
No, Plushenko.

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>>152055376
>>152055824
But what about straight up gay romance that isn't shit?

>>152056176
Pander is where there's stuff in the show for them, bait is where they're tricked into watching.

>>152055794
I agree. There were a lot of those.

>>152056237
That was marketed as BL, so it's still BL, but it's one of the few good ones.

>>152056199

>https://twitter.com/NoahXica/status/790806993502035968

Eh found a screencap since I don't feel like searching back that far.

Nobody is crazy enough to spend exorbitant amount of $$$$ on shitty BD that you can pirate except for girls.
I guess if this trend keep up this is going to be a hobby for fujoshit in the future.

>>152056237
Still BL.

>>152056245
>Pander is where there's stuff in the show for them
So would Free count as that and not bait? Full homo is always BL and the few exceptions that just have a homo couple but the plot doesn't focus on the romance wouldn't be for fujos since there's no pandering.

>>152056453
He's full of shit, bait and pander are the same damn thing.

BL: Super Lovers
Fujopander: Free, YoI
Fujobait: Tiger and Bunny
Shows that fujoshi lach onto: all shounen anime with a lot of male characters

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>>152056563
>Fujobait: Tiger and Bunny

>>152056563
Free isn't gay though

Anime was overtaken by feminazis, marxists and liberals, good thing Trump won so USA has a chance to fight.

>>152056563
>Free and YoI in same category
Free is still basically gender-swapped moe anime to me

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>>152056599
>not realizing that there are more T&B doujins than almost any other franchise combined that isn't Free! or Haikyu!!

>>152056515
Nope, bait shows have straight boys in funny homo circumstances with other straight boys, played for laughs because the characters have usually someone they like. This is very similar to the shows that fujos latch on just because there two cool males on it who look good together.

Then there's pander, like swordboys or free, ambiguous male characters all over each other with limitless shipping options, no female love interest.
I can see the confusion, but if everything that appeals to fujoshi is bait, even romantic BL that has no porn could be considered bait.

>>152056452
Yes, how dare they support the industry they enjoy. You know, people are aware how expensive shit is, but they do it because money talks and they like what they get. I pirate all my shit until I come across something I really enjoy, so I will actually order the BDs, Manga, and merchandise for it even if I've read and watched it already.

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ITT: fujos educate non-fujos on the earth shattering reality of how their favourite series is actually fujo

sasuga /a/

>>152056599
How the hell is it not? That shit is borderline canon homo.

>>152056822
No, you retard it panders to them. That's it. You're the idiot falling for shitty /a/ terms like bait. 'Bait' is yet another meaningless word ruined by 4chan and the fact that you're seriously trying to categorise them between pander and bait is ass backwards as fuck. Stop trying to apply bullshit /a/ logic on it.

>women ruined video games
>now they ruin anime

a need to find something for men only.
im thinking about hunting.
no woman in her right mind would kill innocent animals right?

>>152056918
My cousin likes hunting.

>>152056918
Oh look, another newfag spouting bullshit. By your logic anime has been ruined since before you were born since they've been a prominent part of the industry to begin with.

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>>152035896
did no-one on /a/ seriously realize woman have more disposable income than men?

>>152056918
/k/ and /out/ fujo here. Mom is a retired army sergeant. See you innawoods.

>>152056918
Women started comiket, you should thank them for your fap material

>>152056902
Fujobait ≠ canon homo

>>152056822
>limitless shipping options
One thing I liked about YoI is how they kept it pretty clear-cut, for Baldfat at least. Saves the fanbase from shipping war autism due to the overlap in ships. And they even manage to show actual male friendship outside of that (Phichit and Yuuri, Victor and Chris).

>>152056902
I don't think that's bait

>>152056918
But guns are fun

>>152057054
BORDERLINE

It is like a reverse of comiket.
Comiket used to be fujo event but it was slowly taken over by corporate shills/booth and 2hu/kancolle.

>>152057089
Not doing the whole "it's up to the viewer's interpretation" thing tonight, sorry.

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>female otaku fund the industry
>produce doujinshi and make money
>happily enjoy their shit in their own spaces and argue only among themselves

>male otakus are angry at them for doing their thing and see them as a threat.

Perhaps we should remove the male otaku. They're becoming useless. You guys like the idea of being milked for sperm, right?

>>152057089
Still not bait I believe, unless they suddenly become straight

>>152057062
And if you want you can pretend they fooled around before the beginning of the show without threatening the main ship, nobody gets upset over it.

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>>152057062
You have to be top tier delusional to think Yuri and Victor aren't flaming homos. Why would you pair something that's clearly not recommendable in canon? unless you're a waifufag that wants the character for yourself I don't see how you can completely ignore the main course. I'll never understand shippers.

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>>152056989
>>152056918
>>152057083
>>152056942

this year is off to a great start

>>152057243
Uh, are you replying to the wrong person? I never said that, it's as obvious to me as it is to you that they're gay.

>>152057283
Now kiss.

>>152057292
Not denying your post, I'm pointing how some people can still be completely blind to canon.

>>152055188
TV re-run

>>152056914
But it not clear cut either, but yes, in /a/, bait has a connotation going from
>two characters that shared a glance once in a panel are being shipped by fujos so it's fujobait.
To
>two characters were very gay for each other, doing couple things etc, even if it wasn't explicit shown because it not BL, so it's still fujobait.
There's too much of a range there for this autist board.

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>Yuri!!! on Ice
>Gay

>>152057240
>>152057062
This is some of the reasons YoI was so refreshing. It's so simple yet no one else seems to do it like they did.

>>152057126
You seem to be confusing the open to interpretation as some sort of deniability. The fact that is open to interpretation at all marks it as "it has happened", it was just not explicit.
Please let's not start the "walk me home gently" meme.

What is killing the industry isn't the fujo, it's the mobages.

>>152057551
How long until Yuri on Ice mobage?

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>>152057519
>that one second of air-time

biggest troll preview of all time

>>152057574
Its time for canon skating powerlevels.
1. Victor
2. JJ
3. Fairy
Fight me.

>>152057551
So male otakus rather spend on mobage than anime?
How is that a problem?

>>152057582
And it wasn't even real, just Micky's delusion.

>>152057574
Would whale for Otabek.

>>152057574
What are those even about? Portable dating sims?

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>>152035896
so that means MAPPA's kebab anime aka Shoukoku no Altair will be Fujofest?

>>152057582
Sara really does have an asian fetish though, sadly the ones she's mostly interested are gay or autistic (or both)

>>152057647
Altair manga is already bait, it's inevitable

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>>152057519
>closet pervs

>>152057638
Most are collectible card games. Some have music elements like LLSIF, others have mini games like the Osomatsu one. I know that Enstars and Idolish7 ones are popular right now with the girls.

>>152057613
Sara and Mickey saw Yuuri poledancing, he knew what he was talking about in that scene.

>>152057613
Sort of, he was at the banquet the previous year.

>>152057647
It'll be shit like Arslan.

>>152038828
it was incredibly bad
I guess the sales did justice

>>152057173
Sounds hot.

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>>152057690
b-but Mahmut is straight i-isn't he?

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>>152057776
Does Arslan has brothers killing each other with muskets?

>>152041299
Looked better than new Berserk at least.

>>152057743
>>152057762
>>152057730
I saw an anon point out that Mickey's original line in that scene is actually more intense
>"Or do you like quiet men who are lecherous wolves in sheep's skin?"

>>152040619
Fujos have been making tons of Drifter yaoi for ages.

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>>152057647
He blushes at everyone.

>>152057883
>tfw they killed every single one of barbaran's janissaries
Kind of shocked me when I first read it. Thought that since they were all cute boys, they'd be immune to death. But now that I've caught up, this author really likes to kill cute boys, huh?

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>>152057927
so basically all the other skaters know yuuri is a yandere power bottom except yuuri himself?

sasuga sayokubo

>>152057927
He's pretty spot on. It makes sense why he freaked when Yuuri hugged him, he did see him hump Victor in public.

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>>152057940
>He blushes at everyone.
Oops, meant to reply to >>152057816.

>>152057980
He needs to watch the videos everyone took.

>>152057980
Considering JJ thinks so too, yes.

>>152057986
Not to mention the way JJ saw him in his head. He looked like a shameless slut.

>>152058086
JJ was at the banquet too. Poor Yuuri, everyone knew but him.

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>>152058150
Apparently they are modeling these.

For everyone who wanted to walk around on some YoI profiles.