It sold pretty good but not by Jump standards. The anime ended and didn't increase the manga's sales at all, and it was obvious it was never going to become a huge hit so they just cancelled it.
The mangaka decided to ditch the comedy and focus mostly on action. Everything went downhill afterward, horrible ranking, stagnant sales, boring plot.
Don't know if the Tamura simply ran out of ideas or if it was some editor intervention but the moment he stop relying on comedy Beelzebub went straight to shit which is a shame since it was a great comedy series, just a terrible action series.
Should've posted this one instead.
Came here to post this
It's hard to forget if you've read the whole thing and got invested, yeah, but unfortunately most people's experience with the series is via the shit localization of the already shit anime adaption from the mid 2000's.
Most people know it as "That one wierd pokemon rip off". It's a fucking shame, but it's true.
>So, the manga is much more superior than the anime?
Yeah. Mainly because halfway into the third arc, the mangaka broke his hand and had to take a break and the anime kept going, except they did a shitty job and did stuff completely different and worse fromwhat the author intended, and then the anime just ended without covering the final arc of the manga.
But beyond that, it's also a bad adaption just due to the how much worse the anime's art is when compared to the manga spreads like pic related, as well as santizing a few things, even in japanese. It's got a fantastic OST though and the songs are amazing in the anime, so it's worth checking those out, at least
I dumped the whole series on /a/ a few months back, might be worth reading it that way since we picked up on some translation errors as I dumped it and those aren't documented anywhere else and there are no other scans for the first 18 volumes other then that one set, Alternatively, I can just send you the list of errors we found for you to have.
>In the official translation?
Nah, in NULL's translation, AFAIK nobody has scanned the offifical VIZ volumes, and I imagine nobody ever will since they lost the liscense before they even finished releasing the series.
>I can go looking in the archives. Thanks for the info anon
Be aware that I fucked up the subject line/OP post a few times, and a few volumes required a second thread, so simply doing a search might lead to some missing threads.
Here's the final thread, which has links to all the previous threads in the OP post/in the pastebin linked in it, just so you make sure you don't miss any of it: https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/148349500/#148349500
Be aware that while we (thankfully) managed to avoid people being shitheads and posting spoilers, it did happen a few times, mainly in the volume 8 thread. There were also times I spoiled pages for the sake of having what was on the page be a suprise starting around volume 12 or so, but it should be easy enough to figure out when I did that vs it being somebody posting something else via context.
Thanks a lot man
I heard a bunch of great things about the manga. Pretty hyped to start reading it.
I will never forget Beelzebub just for this guy.
The most based character in the series
I will warn you it starts out only sort of barely above average and takes a while to get going: The actual plot happening and it stopping being villian of the week doesn't occur till volume 11.
Not that the first 11 volumes are bad, but, it's worth keeping in mind, especially if two of the things that you've heard about it that draw you to it is the gorgous art/page spreads and strategic fights, because those elements in particular don't start to get that good till then, and then it hitting it's peak in the third arc from like volume 20 onward.
I first read this when I was like 16 or something I caught up to it when it was just about to hit 100 chapters, it was the last time I could enthusiastically read a shonen that wasn't HxH good times
the Furuichi arc was cool as fuck too maybe I should re-read this
and /a/ seems to love it too maybe underrated everywhere but here
Masterpiece was Furuichi and later his arc.
Author fucked up by not making SoL of Furuichi and his Pillars Squad. The only good chapter on that extra volume was about him and the loli.
This is Wasted potencial: the manga.
I sometimes miss it.
Don't worry he made another Underrated masterpiece
>unfortunately most people's experience with the series is via the shit localization of the already shit anime adaption from the mid 2000's.
Same shit happened to Shaman King
It badly needs an anime remake
The vast majority of them are just awkward wording, and is something you can notice and figure out your own.
There are a few more significant ones, where actual plot stuff gets mistranslated or the meaning of sentances gets mistranslated, but these are usually picked up on by people very soon after the page get's posted.
If you don't mind spoilers I can be specific. Alternatively, I can upload my list of them for you to read yourself as you read along, but it's currently in my own shorthand, and IDK if the thread will still be up before I can go through it all and make it more readily understandable to people other then me. Let me know if you want me to pastebin it.
There is a different, more accurate translation for volume 18 onwards that avoids these, from A-Destiny, but the wording on them is awkard and less natural sounding all the time, and the scans are worse untill volume 30.
I plan on making my own release of the series that uses new higher res page rips from EBJ, that uses NULL's translation as a base but with the errors fixed (if i'm lucky I might also be able to buy the viz volumes that did get released to cross reference there as well), but I have no idea when oi'll actually get around to doing that.
To be more specific: For the Null scans,there's like 2-3 panels per volume (each volume is around 200 pages) that have an iffy/akward sounding sentance that clearly was translated poorly, and there's one actual "Major" mistranslation where the actual meaning is being misunderstood by the translators and as a result you would have an incorrect understanding of what's being said and wouldn't know it like, once every 4-5 volumes, on average (though these are mostly stacked towards the end volumes, so in pratice it's like zero for the first 20 volumes (as far as we could tell) and then 5-6 across the last 13).
So, overall, enough that it's worth noting, but still pretty damn infrequent.
By contrast for the A-destiny scans, there's like 1 very awkwardly worded panel at least every page or so, but none of the "major" mistranslations are there and everything is translated accurately, just... worded poorly. But the scan quality is worse till the last 3 volumes and they didn't do 1-18 at all. It's also edgier sounding which I don't think fits the tone of Gash that well.
Manga was so comfy and funny... damn I miss it so much
So many things left unexplained, so much potential wasted...
>The mangaka decided to ditch the comedy and focus mostly on action.
Fuck, these still hurt
He was literally the Shinpachi of the story
also Eden no Ori
There's always a Shaman King thread that blows up once every blue moon
It really needs a remake tho...I like the first anime for what it is but it hardly does the series justice
>Eden no Ori
For some reason the end really got me even though most people thought it stupid, but really it had no closure. It felt incomplete, and the plot armor was way too strong in the second half of it.
Still, the revelations weren't bad, not that surprising but a whole lot better than what most shonen do. The characters were very likeable, except the big titted childhood friend, who was annoying, cliché and unneeded. I really liked the atmosphere of mystery and also the conflict with the beasts gave some really good scares.
Though, what happened to murderer-kun and the kind of the dark or whatever was his stupid title ?
>He was literally the Shinpachi of the story
Are you trying to imply Shinpachi is a bad character.
>He was the kumagawa of beelzebub
Let's not push it too far, he was a likeable loser but not that much of a good character, and after his fight he returned to his former state with no character development. He was indeed one of the best characters of Beelzebub, but only because most of them weren't very good.
>Kumagawa not being the best character in MB
The fuck ? Then, who was ? MB had plenty of likeable, good characters but come on Kumagawa was the best one by far.
>Solid characters with great development
>Great adapted battle system with original technique and application
>Great plot and foreshadowing
Havent seen a better RPG based manga
Sure, gimmie a minute to upload it to pastebin.
I don't think Null has a CBR release, but if you know of a good png to CBR converter, and are willing to drop some sort of throw away email address here, I'll convert all the volumes for you and upload them and send you a link?
>he intentionally fucked up the end
The end was great though. They just couldn't beat an enemy who had a thousand years headstart on them and was much more powerful. He still got his shit slapped by his mom.
Flowers though... That's not canon, and it never will be.
The ending was pretty bad, but I really liked Arago.
Shoukoku no Altair
Anime soon though
It's important to note that you shouldn't read too much into into the order I say things inside a note. For instance, given I say "X instead of y", meaning, sometimes I mean "they used X instead of Y, when it should be Y", and other times I mean "It should be X instead of Y". So you need to read what translation was ACTUALLY used for that line and compare it to my note, as whatever translation it DIDN'T iuse is the one i;'m saying it might mean instead.
It also may be a little unclear which notes are:"I think this is an error, here's what I think it is meant to be" vs "I know this is an error, here is what it was for sure meant to be".
Here's the guide to get the volumes:
1. Install an IRC client if you don't already have one. I use hexchat
2. Once that's installed, go to http://www.n-u-l-l.net/2014/#contact.html in your internet browser, click the second link, and hit "Open with [your installed client]
3. Open up http://xdcc.n-u-l-l.net/ in your internet browser, and click the "knojiki no gash" link on the sidebar.
4. This should display a list of rar's. Click the first one, copy paste the text it asks you to into the text field in the IRC chat you opened in your IRC browser.
5. it should ask pick a location to save the rar to, do that, hit accept, and then when it finsihes, do step 4 again with volume 2, then 3, then 4, and so on
Kumagawa was one of the main reasons Medaka Box was good though
Can you give me a screenshot of what happens?
If we both end up not being able to get it to work,. if you can tell me a file uploading site that doesn't require registration that has a file size limit of 2gb or more, I can upload them myself there and post a link; or you can just use Bato.to or mangasaurus.
Also, worth noting I excluded the notes I made for myself about how I wanted to translate certain things that was more subjective, spefically regarding spell names and stuff like that
Purely because out of context those notes would mean nothing to you and you having them or not really has no bearing on your enjoyment or understandbility of the series. enjoyment
I was told at the end of 2015, there'd be some new chapters in 2016 and we're here, 1 week into 2017 and I haven't heard a damn thing. Does anyone know?
After hexchat is installed, when you click the link in your internet browser, oit should give you the option to open the link up with hexchat. Try opening and closing your browser after you install it.
If that doesn't work, then you'll have to join the channel manually, if you give me a few minutes i'll write a guide up for that too.
If the thread 404's before we finish, feel free to email me at [email protected] if you still need help
Kimetsu no Yaiba is by far the best thing Jump has introduced in the last year, and /a/ just doesn't care.
Nope. There was a tweet with a page in SJ showing that it was coming back after a decade-long hiatus. It holds a special place in my heart because that Grunide fight was hype as hell.
They've got the license unless they explicitly lose it, I don't get why people think this isn't the case. Some other companies do get licenses for a specific number of volumes or period of time, but Viz is owned by Shueisha so they're obviously not going to take it away.
The only time I can remember when Viz actually lost a license was Zatch Bell, and that was because the author told his publisher to fuck off and took the rights over to Kodansha.
>doesn't even get an epilogue
At least it's ambiguously implied that possibly Kumagawa diddled Kikaijima
The artist was sick, the author was just doing other stuff the whole time. I'm not sure what he actually had, I've heard people say it's anything from breaking his hand really, really badly to leukemia.
Either way it's back now, published four times a year (gets two chapters at once often) and comes back in April. The Baron arc just finished this past chapter.
Same mistake Gintama did. Getting too serious. All long-running comedy action series tends to end up at a similar point. Forgetting the comedy that made it great and just going all action. One Punch Man is getting to that point too but it tends to pull itself back.
>Shit tier art is now non traditional art style
Just because you are unique doesnt mean that you are good. Oda art is good, Nobuyuki art is good, Osamu art is good, this art is shit
Because it is fucking shit? Who the fuck though that it was a masterpiece? Do you like Reborn and Nurutu too? Fucking retard
There's no pretending to it. The artist has found a genuinely interesting way to blend the modern shounen artstyle with the feel of a traditional woodcut.
I don't understand how you can defend Nobuyuki and not see the value in this.
Don't really need one. You expressed your opinion, no one agreed with you, and so far two people have disagreed with you. Meaning that at least in this thread you're delusional.
They have a quarterly magazine for Jump SQ oneshots, and there's three series in there (Beet, DGM, and Kekkai Sensen). Togashi is in WSJ which doesn't have any sort of quarterly magazine, plus they're not going to put him somewhere else because he sells magazines when he's actually drawing.
The only series I know of that's officially once every four months in a normal magazine is Sundome Milky Way, and that's because the author is doing Yokai Shojo, which is weekly, and he's pretty much just continuing a popular oneshot he did every three months when he has time.
>that fucking werewolf fight
HOLY SHIT I'M GOING TO REREAD THIS AGAIN
Sure, his fight scenes don't have a ton of movement to them, I'll grant you that. I think it's a built-in drawback to the style though, and has a lot to do with the line weights he's using. It's a highly distinctive style, I don't know why you think it's forgettable.
>Not sure what you're getting at.
Of course you don't
You probably don't notice all those horrible traced photographs in a lot of so claimed "well drawn manga" nowadays
This looks like 90s(or 80s) manga when they did it all by hand before they started using computers
It's not unique or anything but it has that same kind of warmth to it old hand-drawn manga do
Look at the edges of the black puddle here. Most of the time, mangaka are going to use tones to finish that out, but here it gets hatched by hand. While you will see tones used in the manga, especially for night sky, a huge amount of the shading is done by hand, which inevitably gives it its own style and feel. I can understand people being instinctively put off by it, but it definitely sets itself apart.
You just copy paste the text the site gave you for each volume into the text field, hit enter, and that message being sent into the chat will trigger the bot to send you the file.
I like the art, he has an interesting style that's rare in modern manga, but it's definitely still really rough around the edges and needs work. Jump seems to be pushing it despite it not really selling to well, so I hope it lasts long enough for his art to flourish.
but beelzebub will last for forty years like kochikame, won't it
I don't know if Cross Game is underrated but it doesn't show up on /a/ that often (same goes for the rest of Adachi's stuff). They don't seem to interest a lot of people here, but they're pretty highly regarded elsewhere.
Houshin Engi is fucking beautiful.
Is still one of my favorite shounens.
it was shit, the baby was a piece of shit, I only watched this crap for bancho.
No problem, I hope you enjoy it
One of the best starts to a manga that I've ever read.
Adachi's stuff may not be battle, but they're some of the greatest shounen manga in my opinion. Touch, Cross Game, Katsu, and Nine are all some of my favorites. Plus they hold up remarkable well over time.