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Why don't we get more art house anime like Flip Flappers?

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Why don't we get more art house anime like Flip Flappers?
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>>151954731
Wait for the sales numbers, then you'll get your answer.
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The other thread just archived, which is a good thing. Let go.
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If there were more such shows they would be mainstream. Not being mainstream is the point of art house.
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>>151954731
Because that shit doesn't sell
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>Cockona
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>>151954997
But it's hard to let go, anon.
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>>151955750
BD quality cockona?
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>>151954731
Because you lesbians are disgusting and you endanger society.
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>>151954731
I'm glad this shit flopped.
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>>151955750
>Cockona
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>>151954731
Art house more like fart louse, because let's be real here this show wasn't very good.
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>>151956950
>posting on the internet
>real
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>>151956877
Now that's disturbing.
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Because dumbdumbs and autists can't stand being kept in the dark about shit that's either irrelevant or not immediately necessary to convey. The Jap viewers hated it at first because of this.
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>>151957199
Maybe that's why isekai is so popular. Japs are retarded.

"Durr he died then he didn't died now he in a game hahah boobies"

Anime was a mistake
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>>151954731
Rip in piece
One of the best seasons of anime without gayshit on ice
But its all over now
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Has anyone noticed any BD corrections? Not like the first two episodes needed any, but still.
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>>151957426
They needed at least one correction.
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>>151957460
Yeah, giving Papika an ass.
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>>151957037
Why's Cocona so sleepy?
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Sakuga/visual direction guy here. This is the ideal order of watching Flip Flappers: episode 1, 2nd half of episode 2, episode 3, episode 5, episode 6, the rest of animation highlights on the booru, the background shots on twitter.
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>>151957460
Proportions are a bit weird, but I bet this frame appears for only a split second.
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>>151954731
Art house is gay french shit and their country is now full of muslim niggers. That's why.
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It was a truly thought-provoking anime.
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>>151957936
Her ring is on the wrong leg for entire cut.
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So that you would appreciate them more when they come out.
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>>151957962
Best episode.
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>>151957962
Episode 8 as a whole was very deep and full of symbolic imagery.

>>151957968
True, I didn't remember this one.
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Because they don't sell then they crash and burn like flip flappers did
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>>151958281
But Flip Flappers didn't.
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I live in a world where Space Dandy, Aku no Hana, Ping Pong, Flip Flappers and Mawaru Penguindrum sell 50k. Don't know what you guys are on.
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Is Dimension W as good as flipflap

I want to see another show directed like this with a vivid color palette
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>>151958428
Planet reality, pic related.

Though Flip Flappers did well considering it's an original with barely any marketing and 3Hz was completely paid and wasn't relying on the BDs anyway.
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>>151958460
Not one bit.
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>>151958460
It's not nearly as good as Flip Flappers. I enjoyed it right until they got to the island. You'll enjoy it, too, if you like robutt.
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>>151958460
What's wrong with Space Dandy?
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>>151958460
>>151958545
Dimension W was only good for robutt.
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>>151958523
>Flip Flappers did well
Are numbers out yet?
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>>151958655
And bat loli. I didn't even like the OP.
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>>151958310
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>>151954731
Not even Phantom World of our generation.
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>>151959274
What are you trying to imply?
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>>151958460

Watch Sorameso instead. Very few people watched it when it aired, but it was Studio 3hz's first show and you could already see how this studio will become one of the greats.
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>>151954731
It wasn't "art house", it was a silly monster-of-the-week equivalent show and had an art style that was like a mix between Mahou Shoujo Nante Mou Ii Desukara and Stella no Mahou, two by-the-numbers shows from last season that got nowhere near the cult following this shit did. Stop putting FliFlap on a pedestal, it was filled with as many tropes and cliches as any other series, nothing was art house about it.
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>>151959274
inb4 the fanboys go nuts over this fine quality "sakuga"
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Flip Flappers was a mistake.
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Damn every episode of the BD has commentary on it but its never going to be translated.
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>>151959412
A love Fucking misunderstandings and horseshit: the anime.
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FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP
tooi koe o
FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP
tojikometa
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>>151955750
>KEK ONNA

What did they mean by this?
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>>151960733
Is the commentary included in the rips? I definitely can't afford to buy every single BD (before people rag on me, I pre-ordered the OST and might buy the Yayaka episodes), I'd be down for translating some of the key parts of the commentary.
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>>151959412
Is it as gay as Flip Flap?
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>>151961077
Flip Flap isn't gay. Cocona and Papika are friends.
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>>151960972
Many if not most raws providers on nyaa put secondaries audio tracks.
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>>151960972
The commentary is on the BDMV currently on nyaa.
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>>151960972
It is, yes.

If you can translate the whole thing I will legit pay you for it.
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>>151954731
>art house
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>>151961146
So, is Soredemo as not-gay as Flip Flap?
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>>151961146
Yes, and pic related is how friends usually look at one another.
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>>151961633
It's just adolescence.
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>>151961633
It's just a phase. It'll pass in a few decades.
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>>151961684
But one of them is like 33.
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>>151961684
>adolescence
I hate that word.
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>>151962084
I know they're lesbians, but I'm sure they'll move past the shy hand-holding stage must faster than that, anon.
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>>151962107
Not until someone finds a birth certificate.
Being a lesbian genetic experiment has its perks.
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>>151962191
Oh yeah, that stage was over as soon as ep 13 ended.
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>>151962167
You hate it because it's true. Once Cocona goes through school and gets a job she'll find a handsome man to marry just like her mother did, and Papika will be watching from the sideline.
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>>151954731
If you want more buy their BD
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>>151962343
>she'll find a handsome man
No one wants to marry Yayaka.
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>>151962278
I'm a bit mad your pic related never happened over the course of the series.
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>>151962343
Papika may be handsome, but she's not a man.
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>>151962343
Madoka loves Homura romantically and sexually as a fellow lesbian. Rebellion ended as a "happily ever after" for them.
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>>151962343
>just like her mother did
Oh yeah, that worked out so well.
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>>151962616
You just know Papikana was rocking Mimi's world on the side. Mimi was just one of those damaged lesbos that still goes back to dick now and again and she got what she deserved for it.
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>>151962895
>implying
Papika was totally fucking Salt. Do you really think she only broke into his room twice?
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>>151963023
Please stop posting, Salt.
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>>151963023
>salt begs yayaka to save his former fuck buddy
>doesn't even care if his wife and daughter are saved
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Kossori socchi o nozoitara,
socchi mo kocchi o nozoiteta.
Hitomi no oku ochiteiku,
koko wa doko nanoka naa?
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Sotto te o tsunaidara,
tottemo yawarakakatta.
Onnaji you ni kanjiteiru to,
naze ka wakarunda...
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>>151962616
Nothing wrong would have happened if they didn't fuck up Salt's father DPI.
Also Cocona wouldn't exist if Mimi didn't go for the D.
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>>151963476
Salt was using ELPIS as well as his father. It was Salt's decision not to accept switching with his another side. It means that Salt's dad fucked up himself without any help
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>>151962343
>Papika will be watching from the sideline
You know very well that Cocona will have a daughter and Papika will simply repeat the loop with her.
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>>151963727
Its likely Salt's dad had an experience more like Iro's. He didn't choose to switch with himself, Papika and Mimi chose for him.

Either way, it was dumb for Salt to blame his friend's for what happened. His dad is the one who took the risk.
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How would you describe this anime to the uninitiated?
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>>151964690
"Girls flip their flaps"
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This girl gave me a slight tentacle fetish.
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>>151964690
"Animating is easier than writing".
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>>151954731

Flip Flappers isn't art house. If it was art house only few people on 4chan would know it exists.
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>>151965393
sadly
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>>151964690
It's literally what Miyazaki would make, if he were born in the 70's or later.
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>>151965393
In what fucking world do you figure?
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>>151966221
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>>151965393
It's hard to write well if you don't have a talent for it because the more shit you write, the harder it becomes to tell the difference. You can't really see "improvement" in writing the way you can with drawing.
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>>151963371
>>151963424
Because I'm BAD!
Bad Bad
Really Really Bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOgILJcJ-0o
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>>151966885
The thing is that writing the plot for an animation and writing an actual story are two entirely different creatures. Yes, there's a level of skill needed to craft natural dialogue, but that is something that you just need to go outside to understand.
The places where a writer's talent show are places that are handled by the animators themselves, and it's probably harder to tell if your audience is going to like one way of animating something over another. "Do I want these crystals to explode out of the ground, grow naturally layer by layer? Should I scrap the idea altogether for something that'll be closer to the effect I want?"

Now, if your complaint is about FliFla's plot, keep in mind that this is just on the above average end of anime writing....and the audience still had trouble following.
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>>151966956
this gave me cancer anon
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>>151966956
That's not a good thing.
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>Flip Flappers
>Art house
Oh I'm laughing.
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>Flip Flappers flopped
>a piece of shit like KonoSuba sold good
I just finished the latter and shit, I still can't believe this.
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>>151968521
But Konosuba is actually good
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>>151968800
No, it's not. It's shit.
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>>151968800
>>151968816

You're both wrong, it's fairly-decent-okay.
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As much as I loved almost all of the series, the ending really let me down. It felt sloppy, like they were just making things up on the fly in order to fill time. Mimi went through a bunch of transformations with no real point. Nyunyu was almost irrelevant to the end. Nothing felt like it held any consequences anymore.

It almost seems worse for such a promising story to fall apart at the end than for it to have been rubbish all along.
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>>151968800
>>151968872
>Konosuba
>good
>okay
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>>151968816
>>151968955
I wouldn't expect people who think flip flappers is good to have any taste anyways.
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>>151968992
I wouldn't expect people who think Konosuba is good to have any taste anyways.
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>>151968800
>>151968816
I enjoyed both but i can see why flip flappers didnt do as well in the overall market.
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>>151967545
>>151967803
>Hating this mashup
No, Mr. Anon. You are the cancer.
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>>151969150
>he enjoys this pile of garbage

Good for you, Mr Tasteless Pleb
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What was her point?
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>>151954731
>art house
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>>151969380
eye candy
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>>151969224
Your loss, Voice-Inside-Your-Head Loyalist.
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>>151969380
Amorphous detector
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>>151969541
>loss
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>>151969380
she was a chekov who twin tailed a tomassen
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>>151969574
>>151969380
>>151969444
The KKK are confirmed pedos.

>>151969585
Just your opinion, man.
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>>151969224
>>151969150
Normally I cut this guy a lot of slack, but this one is pretty unforgivable.
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>>151969380
Sayuri surrogate imouto.
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>>151969738
>Yuyu for Yayaka
>Nyunyu for Toto
>Mimi demands that Salt stay faithful
Sayuri will grow old and die cold and alone.
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>>151959329
The childhood friend finally won.
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>>151969780
Sayuri will adopt Nyunyu and Yayaka as her little sisters officially and lewd maids unofficially.
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>>151969585
>loss
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>>151954731
Its rare, but I am sure there are more.

Thinking back when looking at Pure Illusion taking over their "real life" world, it make me think of Paprika so much.

And its good, but same time if Anons want Season 2 of it, I don't think it will work. The ending clearly gave a comfy finale with a bow tie to its title.

And same time, I want to know more about Paprka(na)'s real story before being scouted to the organization and become Mimi's "partner". Or more of Nyunyu. (Nyunyu makes a good buddy for Buu-chan.)
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>>151966956
That is fucking awful.
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>>151969380
normally I hate characters that do nothing but they were trying to show that yayaka was easily replaced by the people she was loyal to, if they just said she was fired it wouldnt have the same affect as showing her replacement doing her job better
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>"Where is da Cockonas at?"
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>>151972670
I saw what page we were on, anon.
I know what you did.
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>>151965618
Only a few people on the internet knows it exists so it's fair game.
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>>151973064
I'll watch it sink again.
See you in 4 more pages, friend.
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>>151973489
nope
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>>151969380
I would flip her flappers so hard.
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>>151954731
Original work is risky, it can literally Flip or Flop, but never Flap.

Therefore it's less risky to just do adaptations and sequels, since there's an established fanbase.
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>>151973947
I want to commit a crime.
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>>151973947
Was this the only time Cocona wearing a pink hairpin? She was happy like a baby, however Papika responded her with Mimi.
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>>151954731
Because the nips have terrible taste. We're the only lot that likes it.
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>He drew around 250 cuts of rough key animation in just a single week. For the record, your average 20 minutes long TV anime episode has around 300 cuts. I suppose this episode had a bit more, but that doesn’t change the fact that Oshiyama drew roughs for the vast majority of the episode. It was revealed at a talk event with industry giants such as Mitsuo Iso (who was personally very displeased with Flip Flappers, but enough of a legend that we refer to our animation awards as The Isos), Osamu Kobayashi, Masaaki Yuasa and Takashi Mukouda. The reason why Oshiyama did such a massive amount of work is simple: with only around two weeks to finish the episode, hiring key animators – including artists who would be be completely new to the series – and then having to correct their work would be more time consuming. He said: “If I do it alone, it’ll be faster“.
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>>151975430
mistranslation
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>>151975430
>animated the whole goddamn episode himself
Holy fuck the absolute madman.
Why even hire animators when your director is a one-man gainax?
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>>151958733
It looks like it didn't flip flop at the very least.

I just want more miracle numbers like YuYuYu, this show deserves them.
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>>151959329
>a period don't stop nothing but a sentence, Cocona!
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>>151958460
Both Dimension W and Sora no Method are miles better than flip floppers. Having a well defined plot makes all the difference.
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>>151961146
>Nail clippers
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>>151975736
>Dimension W better than anything
I see the bait is still strong in Flip Flap threads.
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>>151964690
Spirited Away if Haku were actually a girl instead of a boy who looks like a girl
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>>151975736
You're a funny flip anon i like you, that's why i'm going to flap you last.
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>>151975767
Better sales than flip floppers
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>>151954731
you get tons, don't be greedy
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Did this show have a good ending or a so-so ending? So many anime go hard on the supposed symbolism but never follow up.
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>>151966956
Even as a person who actually likes some of Triple-Q's stuff this is just shit. I think the song is just too calm and slow for this kind of thing to work with it.

At least it wasn't another "Triple-Q still thinks fucking Gangnam Style is funny" episode
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Did I hear something about a cock?
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>>151964690
The thingken man's yuri
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>>151976120
Salt fucked Papikana on the side, so now every time Cocona goes down on Papika she is indirectly tasting her dad's cock.
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>>151976066
Watch it and find out
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>>151976066
The actual ending is very satisfying and stays true to the spirit and heart of the show.

Some people found the buildup to the ending to be sloppy though, and some people are just unhappy that the show actually turned out to have a plot. I think that a lot of anons have massive hard-ons for bittersweet endings and were disappointed that the show went the full good end route like YuYuYu did.
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>>151976333
>Yuyuyu
>good end
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>>151976436
Well, relatively good end. The world is still fire but the girls are happy and Karin is daijoubu and that's all that matters until S2
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>>151976478
>he doesn't know about Yuuna and the hundreds of little girls about to die
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>>151975786
An even less coherent Penguindrum.
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>muh art house

why are flip flap fans so irritating
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>>151977441
Those who live in art houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Is this another Madoka but with lesbians anime?
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>what I expected
>>151977859
>what I got
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>>151977859
Cocona and Papika are not lesbians.
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>>151954731
If you shout "FLIP FLAPPING" loud enough there will be more.
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>>151977859
It's actually more like Abenobashi with lesbians, also good.
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>>151978003
I just did this and my neighbors yelled at me
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>>151977859
They are not lesbians though
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>>151954731
>"""arthouse"""
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>>151977928
>>151978161
>He doesn't know about the lesbians.
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>>151954731
Just finished watching it
How long do I have to wait until another Kino-grade anime airs?
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>>151978525
9 hours.
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>>151978132
You weren't yelling loud enough for 3Hz to hear you.

Next time find a crowded public place. And instead of flip flappers, yell ALLAHU AKBAR.
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>>151978525
When Nakamura comes back from the dead we might get more Kino.
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>Never contacts Cocona
>Never even tells Cocona the truth

Is Dr. Salt father of the year?
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>>151955750
>
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>>151978991
He can't ride Mimi2 if she knows theyre related
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>>151964690
I think it's better if you don't tell them anything beforehand.
And give them drugs.
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>>151954731
Literally Adventure Time with fewer lesbians.
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>>151975843

Dimension W first volume sold 1356. Flip Flap will probably beat that. Sora no Method sold more, but it had an event ticket with Minase Inori, the latter volumes didn't sell as well.
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>>151980661
Does it mean we'll get FLFL OVA?
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>>151980779
No.
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>>151980815
Why not?
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The great PaCoYa (IRL version)
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I hope it doesnt flop or it will really flip my flaps
sorry
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>>151980938
But it already flopped and was always going to from day 1.
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>>151980852
FliFla was always a resume project for the relatively new team, if we do eventually get an OVA it'd be sometime down the line, think Yuyushiki wait.
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>>151980975
Taking all variables into consideration with it being an original work with little to no big names and 0 advertising i'd say 1-2k sales is probably more than they would be expecting. It'd only really be flopping when compared to shows that already expecting big sales.
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>>151981053
Interesting fact that 3Hz was founded around the same time Yuyushiki airing, and derived exactly from Kinema Citrus. It's doomed.
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BD Cockona
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>>151981173
>2k sales
is that per dvd, or per full set?
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Yayaka is so cool!
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>>151969380
To add 3 more episodes.
Think about it for a second.
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Is this the new Umaru?
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>>151957460
No correction
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And they forgot this
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>>151980931

Only Cocona's a cute
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>>151981971
>>151982003
As expected.
I'd rather surprise if Oshiyama didn't fix lots of animation errors in episode 10 onw
ards.
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Menu soundtrack https://streamable.com/nhody
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>>151982212
JUST RELEASE THE FUCKIN SOUNDTRACK ALREADY
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>>151960972
Commentary of ep 1 https://my.mixtape.moe/yxxcov.mp4
(ep 2 doesn't have commentary)
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>>151979106
Don't you think Salt had already realized that Cocona is his daughter in episode 1?
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>>151982472
They knew her name. He probably figured it out.
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>>151981971
>>151982003
Perhaps they didn't even notice?
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>>151982413
>AB-chan not addressed at all
Sasuga M.A.O. Ignoring her even out of character.
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Justice for AB-chan
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>>151982413
IT'S SO FUCKING CATCHY
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So was it ever explained how Cocona forgot about Papika if they met when they were kids and how Cocona left PI and went to live with her "grandma"?
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>>151983140
By feeling and not thinking.
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>>151982413
even the va's like yayaka
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>>151968879
The story was never good, the crazy adventuring was.

Realize that the villain was an evil alternate personality of MC mother who suddenly vanished into PI because of reasons. This whole backstory thing is completely wonky, the way they brought this villain in is wonky, they way it was resolved was wonky. Characters were mostly background noise or devices, or Papika muh friendship, Cocona muh insecurity and Yayaka muh jealousy/anger.
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>>151969380
The chara designer probably made many designs, director probably liked this one a lot and decided to put it into the show even if it brought nothing of value to the plot. That should sum up the process of Flip Flappers production as a whole.
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>>151974037
Her and Yayaka are pure jailbait.
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>>151976333
>Some people found the buildup to the ending to be sloppy though
It's called shit writing.
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>>151954731
>art house
That's called "kino" nowadays, get it together grampa.
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>>151978991
Cocona was monitored by the KKK

Who did a terrible job at it.
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>>151983140

Plot hole. Likely the writers didn't think nor care about it. Why did Mimi magically vanish after getting to PI? Why did Papika's age kept changing?

Official answer? PI magic, anything goes.
Real answer? They didn't care that it would make any sense as long as they could move things in the direction they wanted.
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>>151983140
No, that wasn't explained. But was it really necessary?

>>151983813
I thought episodes 10 and 11 were pretty good. 12 is far more wonky indeed.
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Shit narrative and gratuitous yuri fan-service woven in a way to please pretentious, overthinking donkeys.
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>>151984168
10-11 are by far the weakest episodes of the show. 10 in particular.
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>>151984051
She was hardly considered a menace.
And then they just had nothing to stop Mimi.
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>>151984350
11 is the best. 6-7 = shit.
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>>151984216
Congratulations! The opinion you posted has earned you a free (you). What are your plans now that you have been granted such a sought-after prize?
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>>151983140
Ignore the retards saying "plot holes" and "shitty writing". Can't expect them to connect the clues she show actually gave us.

The actual answer is that the dicktree prison was inside an unstable part of Pure Illusion, which is why Papika's age was constantly changing. Cocona only ever saw that prison in her dreams as we see it in one of the episodes in which she meets Mimi on the boat again. Cocona never mentioned her dreams with the boat, and really how often do you remember your dreams? Given also the PI memory fuckery, it could just make it easier to forget. Cocona was already outside of PI living a "normal" life while Papika was imprisoned.
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>>151984350
I liked the flashback and the sense of havoc throughout the episode.
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BD fixes for ep 1 are literally only credit fixes.
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>>151984960
Oh, and this ED loop is changed to be consistent with the version in later episodes.
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>>151984960
>Inverting Toto and Yuyu
That's really a game changer.
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>>151981971
Might have noticed before it was too late to make corrections. There's probably a 1 month+ time period between final corrections and actual shipment where you can't make any changes or else your shit won't get sent to the BD pressing plants in Taiwan or China on time.
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>>151984960
BD fixes for ep 2, frame by frame analysis
>Same OP credit fix 欄 -> 蘭
>Same re-rendered ED credits
>Lip sync edit of Yayaka nanda omae
>Minor frame editing of Papika grabbing Uex

That's all, folks.
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>>151985600
>Minor frame editing of Papika grabbing Uex
Any screenshot for this one?
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>>151985600
You put the hard work in, so we can wear the Papika grin.
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>>151984960
>People are actually paying for this
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>>151985680
>editing
>not redrawing
means some frame (senpai staring at them running away immediately before Papika grabbing Uex) is extended (for 3 frames). I told you it's minor.
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Official daki confirmed?
(Source: dlu-rays page on official website)
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>>151961146
>entire episode about Cocona accepting that she has to love every side of Papika, not just the one she's familiar with
>that bed scene with succubus Papika
>"let's forget everything and do something fun"
>"do you love me?"
>"as a friend, right?"
>"why would you ask that?"
>not gay
Son.
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>>151985706

The animation was perfect in the first 2 episodes anyway. Better video quality + audio commentary + setting booklet + cover art = worth it.
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What was the purpose of NyuNyu?
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>>151985681

that's a cute red-bearded creature
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>>151986009

That says cushion cover, not daki. A typical daki cover costs 10000 yen, they wouldn't be giving it away.
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>>151986433
Oh well, maybe next time
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Flip Flappers needs a reboot but without plot and removing the fanservice
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>>151986566
No.
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>>151986566
Flip Flappers and it's threads need to die. Hopefully AOTY airing in a few hours puts the final nail in the coffin.
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>>151986566

we had fanservice?
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>>151986668
Why do you have to be mean

>>151986697
Nyunyu is a walking fanservice
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>>151986422
>>151986470
Selling dakis later?
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>>151986566
>Sterilize art because I'm too insecure about what people think about me observing a caricature of a 14 year-old in a swimsuit.
How about you get the fuck over it?
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>>151986697
Missed the transformation sequence, episode 8 and Papika wetsuit?
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>>151956783

flapped*
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>>151986697
>>151957962
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>>151957875

what?
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>>151986566
>removing plot
>removing fanservice
It wouldn't be flip flappers anymore.
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>>151986668
>implying LWA is going to be AOTY 2017
You're in for a disappointment my friend. The second OVA was already dog shit tailored for mainstream western taste, and now they have to pad a whole cour.
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>Hi. I'm Papika, PhD in 2nd wave feminist theory, and I'm here to tell you why glue-gushing gonorrhea geometry is not necessary for sexual satisfaction.
>First, observe the way my lovely assistant (that's you, Cocona) wraps her thighs around my head. Many skeptics on the Christian right have made dubious allegations about whether or not this is natural. I ask you, gentlemen, that if this is not natural, how can you explain the snug way in which these divine pillows hug my face like a pair of sapho-erotic earmuffs?...oh! Smells like lavender today....Cocona would like that part struck from the record.
>Secondly, we know from past, well documented experiments that Coconas and Cocona prototypes do not respond well to phallic contact. The Cocona Mk Mimi was so dissatisfied with Salt- I mean...the subject's inadequate penis, she almost blew up everything and tried to consume her daughter with the gaping, blood belching maw of eldritch horror that he had left behind.
>Now, I know what you are all thinking. "But we need warty hotdogs to manufacture more Coconas! How can you deprive the world of such majestic beauty?" While it may be true with our current technology, Cocona and I have been searching her fridge and dresser drawer extensively for a substitute. We expect to make a breakthrough some time in the next year, though further trial runs may be needed to confirm our findings.

>Finally, I feel the need to address the question that PR has received more than any other. "Alright, Papika, I get that Cocona has a life-threatening allergy to weenies, but surely that doesn't mean she needs 'your' lesbo-mutant ham wallet, right? Why can't she be with an ugly blonde slut with no curves?"
>We here at Papika industries take your concerns very seriously, and we appreciate your letters and the return addresses on them. Thank you and goodnight.
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>>151987108
>dissatisfied with Salt
>clearly still wants him at the end and even says he only belongs to her
What a critical miscalculation. Hand over your PhD you dumb mutt.
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>/a/ hates Flip Flappers now

what the hell happened?
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>>151987571
>>>/v/
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>>151987502
>She said she wanted to be his #1.
>She never said that he was her #1. That's obviously me.
>You'll take this PhD and computer from me when either heterosexuality is dead or I am.
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>>151987571
it got popular
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>>151987599

I'm serious though

I actually thought /a/ liked this show
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>>151987571
>>151987648
Flip Flappers is still liked, what you're witnessing now is the sad remnants and shitposting.
>>151987618
Your PhD won't be of much use when you get exposed as the murderer you are soon.
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>>151987571
>now
Contrarians, crossboarders and MAL/Reddit have existed for some time now.

>>151987648
/a/ elected FliFla official et objective AotY 2016.
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>>151987648
I can only imagine Re:Zero fags or other fanboys are still salty about losing that totally official poll and added to the shitposting here. There are even people trying to piss anons in other threads off by comparing their currently airing shows to Flip Flappers.
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>>151986801
Why do I feel like Cocona is more of a cutie now than when the show was airing? Well selected screenshots?
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>>151987618
Papika, what are you doing on the computer?
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>>151954731
We do once in a while, but they always flop.
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>>151987679
>Oh, you silly slutbag. If I were capable of murder, you would've died by now.
>>151987783
>Looking to see if you saved those nudes of Salt.
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>>151987571
Anything that enjoyed some genuine enthusiasm and bit of popularity on /a/ will get severe backlash from the vocal ones who hated it but couldn't get their voice heard back then.
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>>151987889
/a/ almost completely ignoring this is the biggest proof we have that everyone here is a pleb
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>>151987931
Don't be like that anon, it was fairly hard to follow. If it wasn't for the timeline, I wouldn't have been able to understand it well.

Plus, it maintained the shitposting at minimal levels thanks to that.
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>>151955724
Lots of it does.
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>>151987777
She's always been, maybe your taste has just improved.
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So what doe people mean when they say the show didn't make use of the symbolism of the first eps in the end? What kind of symbolism are they refering to that didn't relate to the core films.
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>>151988396
The hourglass, the skull igloo and probably some other things are never brought up again.
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>>151988479
>The hourglass
The shadow, the second PI personality.
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>>151988479
>The hourglass

Maybe Papika Deaging

>the skull igloo

Maybe it represents the first PI?
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>>151988659
>Maybe Papika Deaging
I think you are falling for a ruse here.
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>>151988797
It's clearly two people facing each other.
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>>151988797
That looks like a vagina
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>>151988797
They could have set the remaining time to the episode run time, so either 21:00 or 24:00 (including OP/ED or not).
Could have been a nice touch.
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>>151988871
But that's exactly what they did. 20min 30s is the total of the episode without OP, ED and preview.
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>>151988954
Oh yes, forgot about the goran sponsa
Then it is a nice touch
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>>151957080
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>>151988352
But Papika still gives me more of a heartboner.
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i found an anon-card-tier cute drawing
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>>151959538
all shows have tons of tropes in them you moron. they couldn't function otherwise.
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>>151990025
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>>151990025
>all these comfy places
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>>151990025
That's a nice Yuyu.
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>>151990157
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>>151990177
Yayaka looks like an alien on the right side there.
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>>151990025
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>>151990025
Just out of curiosity, where is this?
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>>151990251
Those designs are really cute, but I'm glad they went more colorful in the anime.
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>>151990285
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haven't been this let down by an ending since World Conquest Zvezda Plot
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For an artist in the anime business, Flip Flappers looks like the perfect project.

Too bad it won't sell well.
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>>151990251
I like the hair here better than the final versions
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>>151990251
The gradient leg was the stupidest thing in this whole show.
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>>151990504
It's just a mean prank on cosplayers
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>>151990504
More stupid than Papika?
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>>151990288

Tower Records Shinjuku, floor 7.
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>>151990504

It made sense:

Cocona - left leg gradient
Papika - right leg gradient
Yayaka - both legs have no gradient
Mimi - both legs have gradient
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>>151990784
Event present.

This card was drawn by Oshiyama for an overseas anime convention or something.
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INTO THE SKY
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>>151991014
MARCHING TROUGH WHITEEEEE
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>>151990964
Sorry, i misread it. The present was from a different talking event at Akihabara Gamers, where voice actors made comments while watching ep8.
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I need art of this henshin cutie.

Yayaka is love
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>>151954731
>art house

Are you for real?
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which Flip Flap has the fluffiest pubic hair?
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Was this book by Hidaka Toshitaka the inspiration for FlipFlappers? It even mentions Uexküll
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>>151991791
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>>151991978

Yes, he was mentioned in Oshiyama's interview.
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>>151991926
Uexküll
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>>151991926
It's a tie between Mimi and Sayuri.
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>>151991992
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https://twitter.com/binobinobi/status/818102754040086528
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>>151992066
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>>151992119
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>>151992145
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>>151992109
did he ever do a livedrawing event? i want to watch how fast he draws
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what happened?
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>>151989628
are you stupid? western cartoons or live action programming function fine without anime tropes, what about anime means that they must feature cliches of the medium?
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>>151992295
do they really get taller when they henshin?
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>>151992955
I think that's just the heels.
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>>151954731
>art house anime
>art house
>Flip Flappers
>FlipFlap is an arthouse anime.

no
it was shit
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>>151993626

This is based on something the seiyuu said during today's event. Like, Papika and Cocona wore wedding dresses at the end of episode 12, but Yayaka would wear a suit because it's cooler that way.
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https://twitter.com/binobinobi/status/818102754040086528
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>>151994686
Bu-chan is cute!
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>>151994686
I want that Yayaka.
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bu-chan
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Think I'd even get the slipcase and booklet if I order the BD from Amazon right now?
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>>151994686
W-we shoukd send him happy New Year's cards too.
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>>151988335
Only things that are attributed to big names sell like Ikuhara or Yuasa. And that's typically because they did more tame things in the past that led them to gain cult followings.
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>>151993626
My husband (female) Yayaka is so cute.
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>Even MAO, Papika's voice actress, said, "Why didn't Cocona choose Yayaka?"

Jesus.
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>>151995752
The last two 2ch threads have been pretty much Yayaka circlejerk central as well. Being a puppyfag sucks.
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>>151995752
She's just being a good winner, tough I've seen it's a commom ocurrence for the main VA to like the sidegirl more, Yuuna's VA from Yuuki Yuuna has Karin as her favorite character
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>>151996067
Has a tomboy ever been the most popular character in Japanese fandom before? I feel like this is a first.
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>>151995752
That's just pity at this point.
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>>151994160
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>>151987571
It was never popular on /a/.
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>arthouse
More like farthouse
Flop floppers
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>>151954731
Because good shows rarely sell.
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>>151996953
>>151993626
i think someone during the flip flappers event mentioned yayaka would look in a tuxedo when talking about the wedding dresses in ep 12
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>>151993626
>>151996953
I see Yayafags have moved on from forcing their crack ship to forcing a threesome end.
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>>151992309
not anon but of course western shows dont have anime tropes, but tropes arent just for anime. anyways flip flappers used the tropes in good ways
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>>151997738
It's all they have left. I don't know why they can't just abandon it for greener pastures.
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>>151997792
You know how the saying goes, if you can't defeat them join them
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>>151997738

It doesn't matter how as long as Yayaka gets to the Cocopussy.
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>>151997956
Nyunyu is a Cococlone. That's as close as she'll get.
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>>151997792
>greener pastures
Heh
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Could you guys please stop shitting up LWA threads? Thanks.
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>>151954731
Because studios want to make a profit.
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>>151998216
It's IRC they are trying to make us look bad
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>>151998216
>he didn't see the exactly same baits in the past flipflap threads
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>>151987571
the last 3 episode were complete trash and people are just coming to terms
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>>151999092
The entire second half was pretty shit.
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>>151999092
Looks like someone needs to come to terms with his opinion being trash.
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>>151999092
>>151999182
Come to think of it, my life was complete trash
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>>151985018
Nice
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>>151990251
Is it me, or initial henshin-Cocona design is extremely lewd?
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>>152001283
Those were good times.
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>>152001364
I miss FLFL
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Was it ever explained who the dead(?) girl in ep1 was?
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>>152001512
What are you talking about, anon?
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>>152001492
You're not alone.
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LWA has already completely destroyed Flip Flappers in the face game.
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>>151959274
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>152002449
What anime looks like with key frames only and no inbetween frames.
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>>152002143
wat
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>>151997738

it is the only way Yayakass will get some Cockona
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>>152001901
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>>151988479
The timer in the hourglass is the same time as the episode length minus the OP, ED, and next episode preview.
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>>151997738
Don't be salty because Japan doesn't care about your favorite girl.
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>>152003909
>Implying Nip taste is relevant
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>>152004929
It kind of is, because the Nips are the ones drawing all the fanart.
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>>152001492
Me too. Started watching this season and I all I can think about is that Chiya from UM is this season's Papika and Vampire-chan from demi is this season's best girl (also blond). I think Flip Flappers broke me very badly.
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>>152005139
But we have Futanon and Mexicanon in the west.
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>>152005182
I'm not too pumped for this season either.
LWA will probably be nice but the threads are already beyond salvation. The worst is that shitposters over there are trying to use FliFla to derail the threads.
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>>151954731
Here's a bitter redpill: Shows like FF and Kyousou Giga wouldn't sell even if they had well-directed endings
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>>151954731
>art house
Don't use terms you don't understand.
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>>152007043
>Yayakafags never give up.
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I never got the impression that Yayaka "loved" Cocona that way, not even in the end.

It seemed like she just wanted to be her friend, to stay next to her together.

But not in a romantic or sexual way, it wasn't a fascination with Cocona either.

Just genuine friendship.

Was I alone?
>>
So I just watched the whole thing. I know this is a cruel thing to say about a 1-cour show, but. It went on too damn long, /a/.

Otherwise a stellar example of everything animation is supposed to be and I loved it immensely. Would watch decent and upstanding young ladies doing wholesome and respectable things again.
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>>152008583
I felt the same way.
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>>152008583
She went full Brendan Frasier anon
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I'm not sure about the ending. So is everyone in Pure Illusion now or did it meld with reality or what?
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>>152008681
She looked so happy and calm in that part.

Yayaka really went through a lot.

At that point she'd already accepted that Cocona and Papika would be together, but she'd still have a room in Cocona's life, and that was enough for her.
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>>152008742
The dull world where Cocona woke up in Sayuri's bed was still Pure Illusion. Coco and Papi leave at the end back to their real world.
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>>152008825
She sounded jealous and jaded to me, though she indeed accepts her fate.
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>>152008825
>She looked so happy and calm in that part.

That's called being broken, you know that point in life where there's no hope anymore and you can only laugh at how miserable you are ;_;
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>>152008829
Yeah, it was Salt's pure illusion layer, because he had created that additional layer before.

What I'd like to know is what happened to Papika.
She appeared to Cocona just when Cocona was trying to find her and thinking about her, like last time, almost as if her feelings brought them together, but it could also be interpreted that Papika herself was struggling on her own to reach Cocona again and the timing was just a good coincidence.

And what was Papika doing? Was she really having tea and cookies with Mimi all this time, or was that an euphemism for something more?

It was weird when Papika seemed to shoot Cocona out of the pure illusion with her powers before, almost as if she wanted to stay alone for a while with Mimi who had regained her sanity.
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>>152009012
Papika was probably just calming down Mimi, hanging out with her and talking about marrying her daughter. After all she hadn't really had that chance for 14 years. Mimi also watched them fly off at the end, so I think she just took Papika to whatever PI Cocona was in.
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>>152009122
No lesbian sex?
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>>152009122
Cocona could at least've gone see her mother one last time before going back to the real world
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>>152009188
Mimi could have taught her some moves.
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>>152009012
Papika can protect people with her bubbles, so as that world was collapsing she sealed Cocona, and sent her off to safety while she did the same with Mimi. Cocona flipped out and cut herself loose, which caused her to get stuck in her dad's PI.
Persumably it took her some time to wake up there, and go Papika hunting. During that time Papika was eating Mimi's sweets.
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>>152008829
>>152009012
But everyone else was in that layer too. Were those the PI variants of them?
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>>152009302
Yeah. Yayaka and Uexküll already got out of PI beforehand and others like Sayuri and Hidaka can't even enter PI.
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>>151988479
Oshiyama daidaidaisuki his hour glass, so he put it in his anime. Problem?
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>>152009263
>During that time Papika was eating Mimi's sweets.
What a bitch, her lover was searching for her, thinking she was lost forever.
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>>152009302
>Were those the PI variants of them

Yes
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>>152009302
They were in the pure illusion from before, but now that pure illusion was behind a salt proxy.

Once that pure illusion collapsed, instead of going to reality Cocona ended in the salt layer.

Which was dull and sad.
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>>152009368
Cocona should have had more trust in Papika by then. She's never failed her.
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>>152009392
>only thing exciting and colorful in Salt's world are butterfiles
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>>152009368
Papika has no morals and considers other human beings as playthings, also technically a pedo
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>>152009480
What are you talking about, kitty? Did you even find a new owner yet?
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>>152009480
Papika wasn't "normal".

That's why she was the way she was.

And why we love her.

And why Mimi and Cocona love her.
How can anyone not love an over the top cute sociopath.
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>>151954731
Why are you trying so hard to shitpost Flip Flappers to death?
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>>152009754
Flip Flap shitposting really took off after it won the totally official and objective /a/ poll. They're even trying to make Flip Flappers fans look bad in other threads.
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>>152010036
I'd rather the show be hated than forgotten.
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>>152010086
Oh! YOU'RE the cancer killing fandom! So nice to finally meet you!
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>>152010086
It could've lived on as a cult classic yuri, now its just a meme.
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Raise your hand if you almost fell for the fake ending of Salt's pure illusion, when they were making it seem like maybe Cocona was insane all along and everything related to pure illusion was just part of her imagination and everyone else was just nicely going along with it for her sake, or also insane.
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>>152010226
They didn't even try to make it seem like Cocona had been imagining it all. Everyone just said that Pure Illusion was closed off to them. But no, I got spoiled by the /a/ thread. I tried to ignore it for the ending, but I couldn't resist looking if they got a happy end.
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>>152010220
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>>152001901
>420 total views
nice
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I can't believe you faggots are still discussing this amazing anime
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>>151986697
I agree-- not enough Hidaka
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>>151977859
It's lesbians but with Madoka
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>>151977859
Could Yayaka ever get a white henshin from Cocona too?
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>>152011630
I think she'd have to find true love anon
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>>152012246
>true love
Why can't she do it with Uexküll then?
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>>152012377
He's just a pet, and not even hers.
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>>152012415
So is she.
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>>152012415
>I'm sorry I broke your heart Yayaka, but I can I have my bunny back?
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>>152012448
>She is not hers
This show doesn't stop being deep.
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Rejected and alone with a rabbit.

What's next for Yayaka's life?

Is she going to be a rabbit lady, growing old and lonely, with many rabbits as her only company ?
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>>152012826
>rabbit lady
The battery operated kind
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>>152012826
She's only 14, she's got a long life ahead of her and plenty of time to find the right girl to settle down with.
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>>152010086
Seriously kill yourself
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>>152010086
Fuck you.
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Where is she running, /a/?
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>>152014186
Away from that one geek that wants to sexualize her
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>>152014549
Sayuri?
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>>152014186
Why is Cocona wearing an apron in the ED? And why is Papika wearing that tomboyish outfit?
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>>152014888
They are supposed to be brother and sister. Hansel and Gretel. Papika is the canon boy.
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>>151996108
Who doesn't love Karin?
Karin is literal perfection
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>>152015574
That's so fucking adorable.

yes, I didn't know who Hansel and Gretel were, never really liked fairy tales
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>>152016200
>I didn't know who Hansel and Gretel were
What?
How?
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>>152016200
>>152016289
More astounded by
>never really liked fairy tales
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>>152016200
How come someone doesn't like Grimm's fairy-tales.
Or german fairy tales in general.
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>>151954731
>art house anime like Flip Flappers
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just watched the last episode. did they leave pure illusion or were they still there? or was it impossible to know?
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>>152018605
I think people should start putting the explanation for that in the thread this is getting ridiculous
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>>152014186
Away from the fanservicey camera
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>>151965226
>he hasn't developed a full on tentacle fetish and out grown it by now
how new are you?
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>>152019550
dont blame me if other people asked this before I got here
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>>152019550

There's no way to know if the last world they ended up in is real, or just a very realistic Pure Illusion. Don't you think it's strange that despite all the PI spilling into the real world bullshit, the last world was completely undamaged. And Flip Flap base is completely undamaged.
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Make your own Uexkull.
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>>152022154
He didn't describe his complete fetish history. You don't know what has given him boners in the past. Don't judge.
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>>152024116
> Not making superior uexkull
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>>152024760
It's spreading.
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>>151975430
absolute madman
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Flip Flappers is what constitutes art house these days? Times have truly changed.
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>>152022525
>the last world was completely undamaged. And Flip Flap base is completely undamaged.
We're not sure when exactly the last scenes are happening.
Also the Flip Flappers hq wasn't completely destroyed, part of it might have been undamaged.
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>>152026518
lyrics anon
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>>152027320
Yep, I was FLFL2k6 aka lyricsanon
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>>152027121
That's the tragedy of Flip Flappers.
Too obscure and unconventional to be mainstream.
Too popular and moe to be praised by hipsters.
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>>152028372
>moe
What is the fucking definition of this word
I've been lurking for years and I still can't pinpoint the meaning of it
>>
>>152028454
It's derived from the root word for burning and is meant to describe a passionate feeling that grips one's chest when they see something so cute that it makes them want to protect it and make it happy and safe.

It became a pejorative within the industry because of backlash surrounding the trend in the mid-00s surrounding adaptations of slice of life manga, where doomsayers in the industry insisted that cheap cuteness was substituting substance. Now the world is hurled at any show featuring female characters that isn't explicitly an action series with a male protagonist or a children's show. It's synonymous with "only the damn otaku could like this garbage," as Miyazaki has been known to shout at his microwave. At this point, it's long since lost all meaning and is just thrown around when people with a poor understanding of their own feelings attempt to articulate criticism.
>>
Just wondering, is it too much to ask animators/producers for drawing them in this style?
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>>152028590
>"only the damn otaku could like this garbage," as Miyazaki has been known to shout at his microwave.

I bet they were shortcake flavored noodles.
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>>152028372
More like, the beauty of it.

It's coated with all the coolest shit, the cutest girls, the yuriest plots and the most badass action anime offers while also delivering a pretty interesting experience that leaves a lot to think about.


Flip Flappers doesn't need hipsters to love it, or to achieve a mainstream appeal.

It's meant for those of us who unapologetically love all that's pure anime and can also appreciate such a wild ride as Flip Flappers.
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>>152030140
Loving with your wallet also helps
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>>152030392
If only I had the extra cash.
I would so hard.
Even if the show is already done and a sequel is unlikely anyway, even if it was made as a statement for the studio and the director and the staff, I'd still love to give Flip Flappers all of my money.
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>>152030140
>that leaves a lot to think about
Like what?
>>
http://vgmdb.net/album/62351
What the fuck is up with all those titles in foreign languages? Seeing so much of my mother tongue in there is confusing me.
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>>152032891
What the hell happened, what is going on, what is going to happen next, where is the anime heading, how will it do it.

The fact that it was anime original meant it had no script to follow, every episode was unique, so it could go towards any direction.

They deliberately left a good teaser for the next episode in every episode. But they didn't go back to the show at quite the moment where they left before, so often the viewer would be left to wonder what is going on now.

Until they actually gave us the structure of the universe, the premise of the show, and the tone of it, it was pretty interesting to try and figure out where it was all heading.
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>>152033037
I thought maybe the show had something worth thinking about even AFTER watching it and not just some mystery appeal.
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>all those FLFL haters
Feels good to like this anime.
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>>152033002
>Gebaut freundschaft
>Berechnete Zwillinge
This upsets me.
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>>152033002

They just wanted to out-language Hiroyuki Sawano.
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>>152034951
Paint the black man green
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>>152034980
for what purpose?
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>>152035018
Rewatch the last episode.
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>>152035018
Perfect.
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>>152030392
>no OST
What are you even doing
>>
How do you feel about this flopping and LWA being a potential 10k seller?
>>
>>152035243
Please no shitflinging between the shows fans, LWA is great and deserves the success.
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>>152035243
I feel sad for the mental state of people who use sales for shitposting.
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>>151994160
What event was this? Where was it?
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>>152036359
https://twitter.com/akiba_gema/status/818041338612486145
Maybe the event in Akihabara.
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>>152010086
kill yourself
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here is a papikana
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this guy is productive recently
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>>152037671
>these cowtits on Papika
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