Why are sports anime getting so overhyped in the last couple of years?

Fujoshit money.

>>151901845
>overhyped

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Because they are enjoyable and full of adrenaline, sport manga are the only decent reason to even read Jump.

>>151901886
literally this, fucking fujos took over sports anime

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They all want to be Slam Dunk but they can't

>>151901961
This desu.

Slam Dunk is the only one worth giving a shit.

>>151901845
people like them because the sport can be the drama, allowing relationships and characterization to develop without being forced like in so many other types of manga

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>>151901961
They all want to be Ashita no Joe.

Because unless you were a beta faggot that didn't play sports growing up, it's easy to relate to the goals and friendships gained in a sports anime.

>>151902383
I'm a beta faggot who didn't play sports and I can relate to sports manga protagonists.

>>151902383
Anon, where do you think you are?

>not being hyped for Yowamushi Pedal
What are you, gay?

>>151901886
First post best post

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>>151902383
>grew up playing sports
>don't like sports anime because of how unrealistically the sports play out in most of them

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>sports anime being popular is a recent thing

>>151901845
Why wouldn't you want to watch a show full of cute, young boys with rippling physiques and intimate bonds with each other?

>>151901961
>>151902015
First time and last time I saw Slam Dunk was on Jump Ultimate Stars 3DS
Majority will admit that Kuroko no basket is better

I guess It's popular because we now have better graphics for le epic secret skill MVP of the match.

>>151902709
Literally no-one thinks KnB is better except fujos.

>>151902511
Well, it's fucking anime. If I wanted to see the sport playing just like IRL, I'd might as well go play the sport IRL then.

>>151902677
Indeed, sports anime are usually full of best boys.

>>151902709
>The first/last time I saw a series that ran in the early 90s was a game centered on mashing together decades of nostalgia.
Your neck must get a workout carrying a brain that huge. I don't know where you're getting that notion the majority of people who have read/watched both KnB and Slam Dunk think that KnB is better. Even in KnB threads people will tell you that Slam Dunk is superior, but can still enjoy KnB despite that. If you've seen something that's considered the one of best in the genre, that doesn't mean you're prevented from enjoying anything else similar to that thing.

>>151901961
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>>151902511
Do you hate Yugioh as well because the anime doesn't portray the duels exactly like the actual card game?

>>151901845
Sadly I bought into the hype and recently watched this show. It fucking sucked.

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>>151902833
If you're gonna botter making a show about a sport, at least make it seem believable to people who know how the sport works.

>>151903168
No, I hate YGO because it's shit.

>>151902748

I'm not a fujoshi and I like KnB more than Slam Dunk, but they are barely comparable. The only similarity is that they play the same sport. KnB is great, it's a shame the author had such a bishonen style, that shit only attracts fujos who can't understand manly feelings of camaradery and rivalry and have to shit on it with their shipping.

The best sports series for me is Eyeshield 21, luckily fujos weren't a thing back then.

>>151903258
>If you're gonna botter making a show about a sport, at least make it seem believable to people who know how the sport works.

i.e. slam dunk

despite the obvious over-exaggerated moments for comic relief. its quite accurate.

>>151903258
>If you're gonna botter making a show about a sport, at least make it seem believable to people who know how the sport works.

It's about finding balance. Sport anime can be full of crazy shit and still teach you a lot about the game and the rules. If you're making a manga it doesn't make sense to be so strict with realism, it's like Kenshin with sword fights, it was unrealistic as fuck but none the less enjoyable because of that.

But of course that's subjective. There's people who prefers more realism and people who prefers more bullshit, so it's no point arguing about that. Even the most realistic sports series will ussually hit a point where they become too shonen just by sheer escalating of the rivals.

>>151903260
You're a god damn fujo.

>>151902511
afaik only kuroko no basket is unrealistic where they have a guy that shoots 3's as casual as steph curry

Kuroko is better than Haikyuu

>>151903258
I thought Ping Pong was pretty good

>>151903429
Have you ever heard of Prince of Tennis?

>>151903260
Congratulations anon, you are a pleb fuck with no taste. At least the fujos have an excuse of enjoying KnB for the fuccbois.

>>151903260
I really should pick up Eyeshield 21. I was browsing old SJ covers and every volume that featured Eyeshield 21 stood out because of the gorgeous art.

>>151901961
We need a new anime. I want the match with Sannoh animated.

oh, and need also a new anime for Eyeshield21.

Not forget Capitan Tsubasa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CImqTuRjWm4

>>151903634
I've been meaning to do that as well, but my backlog is a mile long. I was told to beware of the Dinosaurs arc since it was tacked on because of how popular the series was.

>>151901845
Because people are stupid and fall for hype shit all the time.

Which one in Haikyuu that is unrealistic? Granted that I don't know anything about Volleyball.

I guess everything about Kageyama and to some extend Hinata?

>>151903916
Haikyuu is pretty realistic. It's animated in an exaggerated way, but there's nothing in it that's like super out of the bounds of reality.

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>>151903260
>It's a shame the author had such a bishounen style
I am suddenly struck by nostalgia at the wave of complaints from Japanese SJ readers (even the fujos) who hated how fucking ugly all the characters were in the beginning. The manga almost got shitcanned because of it. Good thing SJ was desperate and decided to give it a chance, since it turned out to be a smash hit.

On a more general level, there's a reason why people decry 00s-10s SJ as 'Bishounen Jump.' That's just where the artstyle is going for the market. If you want more varied artstyles, you're going to have to read seinen.

I can't get into anime sports because, in reality, Japan sucks at most things athletic. They always have these characters that are really tall and just use the excuse they are only half-japanese or some shit.

I have also yet to encounter a sports anime/manga that truly encapsulates the bromance between teammates. Japanese male authors will never understand because they are so prudish they can't even look at another guy without feeling it's just too gay.

>>151903518
no

>>151904309
baseball manga do that all the time though.

>>151904309
>I have also yet to encounter a sports anime/manga that truly encapsulates the bromance between teammates.
You can't show that on Japanese TV.

>>151904358
You've seen nothing.

how do we get sports anime to be this hype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6XsZVb-ZE

>>151904239
>>151903916
Hinata is fucking 5' 4.

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Will we ever have a popular sport anime with girls?

Excluding the "It's like Saki, but X" stuff

>>151903916
It's mostly realistic but I heard people say one of Kageyama's tosses are actually illegal or impossible. Then you have ridiculously OP characters like Ushijima. It will only gets worse as they have to create characters that are progressively more challenging.

>>151904309
>encapsulates the bromance between teammates

slam dunk characters bond pretty well over the course of the anime. I'd say they do a good job showing how trust can grow over time in a sports setting

>>151904309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lpYmyoGjCs

>>151904433
Keijo!!!!!!!!

>>151904433
We have a number of interesting girls sports anime and manga, but they don't seem to catch on.

Well, one did, but in a time long before we were born.

>>151904433
There's a girls' cycling animu that starts this season. Whether or not it'll be 'cute girls on bikes' or an actual sports series remains to be seen. I'm assuming it'll be cute girls on bikes since 11s seem to go full retard when it comes to women's sports.

>>151903429
A lot of people had bullshit in Kuroko, but Midorima's perfect shooting was probably the most unrealistic. He made full-courts with 100% accuracy with normal jump-shots. The NBA probably scouted him right out of highschool.

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Overhyped by who?

We need more of them, They contain the most memorable moments and contain happy sadness joy anger all these different things in one show because of various personalities.

Sport shows are the fucking best and need more adaptations.

>>151904433
Read more manga or go watch older anime.

>>151904433
Hibike Euphonium

>>151904290

I don't hate the artstyle per se, just the crowd it attracts. Eyeshield 21 had the same kinds of relationships between characters than Kuroko yet it's not invaded by fujos because characters aren't typically pretty.

>>151904433
In this decade not so likely, unless it's a cute idol thing. See the list on the following link, nothing wrong with trying out older anime.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/the-list/2015-04-11/.86914

>>151904309
Nishikori is #5 in ATP rankings, and I'm pretty sure there's a 6'3 Japanese woman in the WNBA.

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Why do we love Baby Steps?

>>151904433
Attacker You was really popoular ine the '90.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knemz6iNYTI

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Hajime no Ippo was my first sports anime and my last too. I have yet to find a great sports anime like Hajime no Ippo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1VNM57PHms

>>151904433
Men dont buy sport anime unless theyre fake crazy sports and even then its iffy. Unless this trend changes, I don't see it.

>>151904525
Keijo is so unpopular it gets *** for V2 because it didn't rank high enough to register any sales at all.

>>151904405
And Japanese high school nets are 7.87 feet tall (2.4m). So for him to get his head all the way above the net in a jump as he often does in the show, he'd have to jump about 3 feet. The highest standing jump is apparently 5.3 feet, so it's not like he's some crazy freak of nature. But 3 feet is still probably very rare for a high schooler.

>>151904405
This is why making haikyuu realistic was a mistake. Especially since the author is trying to introduce national team level stuff. It started off as a light-hearted inspirational story but the longer it goes on the more depressing it gets.

>>151903429

Nah most sports anime have something equally weird. Captain Tsubasa had a keeper that won't miss even one ball, not even a tennis service. Prince of Tennis had people throwing balls that would not bounce, but just roll back on the floor. Even Slam Dunk had some weird shit, some of those kids had the level of NBA players, they weren't doing anything impossible but they were goddamn asian kids.

>>151904764
I bought plenty of realistic sports manga.
I would have bought the anime except I don't like the data carriers that go obsolete too quickly for my taste and are a pain to deal with when you're trying to watch something.

>>151904831
L E A F

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>>151904740
And not forget Ace o nerae!.

>>151904862
He sucked judges dicks. Thats the only way its realistic.

>>151903916

The thing with Haikyuu is that you have to know about volleyball to realize how impossible some things are. If you're a casual you can let it pass, but I have a friend who plays volleyball and likes Haikyuu but will go full autistic with some of the plays, Kageyama's tosses for example.

>>151904831
it is normal. If the character had the skill of a real japanese, the manga will end in a volume.

>>151904812
Doesn't Hinata jump like 10 feet in the air? I'm pretty sure they measured it but it seems pretty ridiculous.

>>151904588

What triggered me the most is that you just can't get the ball to the basket with a normal shot. Even when you see people making three pointers from behind half court, they generally just throw the ball like a catapult, because you just can't give the ball enough force with a regular form.

>>151904831
Prince of Tennis's worst example is the Samurai Drive. Not only is it unrealistic (cutting the ball in half with the rope between the net and pole) but it's also completely pointless because split balls stop play.

>>151904998

Yeah I know, I was just making a point about his previous post. But to be fair you can get into the unrealistic territory without having, say, a guy that makes 3 pointers from any point in the court.

>>151901845
Because they appeal harder to shonenfags than shonen nowdays.

>>151905067

I'm glad I never got to see that. It would have ruined sport anime forever for me.

>>151904929
I don't play volleyball but I thought it was pretty unrealistic that he can pinpoint the exact right spot and speed to toss so the spiker doesn't even need to have their eyes open.

In haikyuu you're either an underdog or a fucking magical prodigy elite genius.

>>151905015
That's height + arm length + jump

>>151905015
His vertical reach with a running jump is something like 10'9. Someone who is 6' has a roughly 8' standing reach, so taking his height and shorter arms into account it's 40+ inches.

2020 Olympics
Long term plan to get everybody excited for them, it goes all the way to the top man - it's a conspiracy.

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>>151904588
>the most unrealistic
As long as Emperor Eye and Perfect Copy exist, Midorima's perfect shooting will only be the second or third most unrealistic superpower in BSball unless you're separating KnB powers into bullshit magic and mundane but unrealistic categories, in which case Midorima's shooting is the most unrealistic. I reckon most of the Skittles got recruited straight out of high school, except for Purple since his superpower was just being fuckhuge compared to all the tiny Asian kids.

>>151904719
>a 6'3 Japanese woman in the WNBA
Nice desu.

>>151904684
I see what you mean. There's a recent example of that with All Out. The most common complaint I've seen from both fujos and non-fujos is that the character design is awful, even though it's only a couple characters with weird designs. (The second most common complaint is that it's generic, which it is, but it manages to still be a little charming in spite of that.)

>>151905196

Well I didn't realize that, but my friend will always sperg about that. It seemed complicated, but not outright impossible, except the part of having the eyes closed. But yeah, you need magical coordination for that to work.

>>151901845
Because Haikyuu is a good Sports Anime and the OST is always so great and you should go back to /u/

>>151904831
Free remains a bastion of realism.

>>151905196
Don't forget backspin that magically cancels the ball's momentum.

>>151904684
Fujos also cream their pants over Osomatsu, so I don't think it was all artstyle.

https://www.olympic.org/tokyo-2020
maybe?

>>151905410
Not as bad as Tezuka zone.

>>151904722
Baby Steps got me into actual tennis

>>151905267
>As long as Emperor Eye and Perfect Copy exist, Midorima's perfect shooting will only be the second or third most unrealistic superpower in BSball unless you're separating KnB powers into bullshit magic and mundane but unrealistic categories

You're right about that. Statistically speaking, having 100% accuracy is total bullshit, and unneccessary because he could have had a 90% and still be a menace. Blocking is really hard, so realistically he should win against everybody.

Perfect Copy and the guy who stole abilities are probably the most unrealistic, Perfect Copy can be as bullshit as Midorima's three pointers but it's also a power with a cooldown, in real life. The guy who steals abilities is worse, how in hell do you make someone unlearn something, even if it's temporary?

Ankle breaker at will is on par with 100% accuracy. Ankle breaks isn't even something that is done voluntarily, for it to happen the other guy has to be running in order to lose balance, yet Akashi makes people fall even if they're standing in place. That must be fun as fuck by the way, definitely the power I would pick up.

Kuroko has straight up magic or mutant powers.

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>>151905368
>tfw your sport won't ever be able to be adapted without being fujobait

>>151904722
Ei-chan

Is there an example of sports anime with actual superpowers? Not bullshit that pretends to be explained as human talent, but things that are acknowledged in universe as straight up super powers. It could be interesting.

>>151905504
Vivid?

>>151905418

It might have something to do with the first chapter where they were bishies. I don't know straight examples of things hijacked by fujos that aren't conventionally attractive, at least in anime.

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Tell me this shit isnt dope af.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=306jWOpnfdE

Slam Dunk got it down right.

A (mostly) realistic portrayal of the sport. Great comradery and growth between characters over the 100 episodes. Excellent action and comedy. It really has it all. Its the stand-out sports anime imho

Note: Please ignore the low-quality and lack of subtitles (plus spanish) for the posted video. Its the only YT vid I could find of this particular scene. It's just one of many cool scenes in the anime

>>151905504
no, because that would be cheating

talents or skills aren't cheating. superpowers are.

>>151905504
Isn't that most sports anime already? Shonen anime always has to have some stupid gimmick because realism is boring.

>>151905570
SnK is ugly as fuck. Fujos don't have any standards. Even when it comes to art.

>>151905668
The more fujo an sports anime is, the more realistic it is, generally. Because fujos dont really care to self insert as sports champions so many shounen tropes can be discarded.

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Haikyuu is very enjoyable.

>>151903260
>Eyeshield 21, luckily fujos weren't a thing back then.
Wew. I've fapped to gay E21 doujins many times.

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>>151905718
will you stop using that fucking word? because your posts aren't making any sense.

>>151905786
What word? Fujo? The more a sports anime is aimed at fujoshi, the more realistic is it? Thats really fucking obvious- I don't understand what you can't understand.

>>151905608
Jesus I miss this show. They need to bring it back and finish it.

>>151905786
You're scaring me, Yui.

>>151905817
Sports anime aren't even aimed at fujo's, they just end up making the majority of the audience anyways because a mostly male cast of cute boys.

>>151905817
>Thats really fucking obvious
no. go get your head checked because that's the most random shit i've read all day.
it's almost like you think that free is the go to example for sports manga/anime.

also snk isn't exactly aimed at fujos either afaik.

>>151901845
>overhyped

Haikyuu was fucking great.

>>151904433
Just like in real life, women's sports are usually boring.

>>151905975
Some sports anime are. (Free, Yuri on Ice, Cheer Danshi ect.) And they are always more realistic than their shounen counterparts. And SnK wasn't made for fujos but was invaded by them. Fanbase is over 50% women.

>>151906041
Only season 1 was great and felt genuine. Everything after was try-hard overhyped bullshit.

>>151905782

I was happier not knowing that there were gay E21 doujins, but it's too late now.

>>151905668
>Isn't that most sports anime already?

No, they always try to justify it somehow.

>>151906083
Both season 2 and 3 were great. 10 episodes solely dedicated to one ultrahype match? Yes please.

>>151904592
Why would you include possibly the shittiest sports show this season in your post?

>>151906111
Every anime with more than one male character has gay doujinshis.

>>151906176
The plural of doujinshi is doujinshi.

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>>151904239
>>151903916
This sums up the thread

>>151906111
Every semi-popular sports anime ever has gay doujins and lots of them.

>>151906080
>>151905669

SnK was invaded by tumblr because grrl power, feminine men and Hanji is trans memes. Fujos came with them.

Also, I don't remember it being popular among fujos when there was only manga, its popularity started with the anime which is notoriously prettier.

>>151906172
What's so shitty about All Out?

>>151906235
Horrible protagonists and shitty writing.

>>151906150
>ultrahype
Typical braindead haikyuu shitter.

>>151906219
>fujos came with tumblr
This is the most retarded thing I've ever read. Fujos don't use fucking tumblr. (Unless you're talking about Western fujo who are literally irrelevant to this discussion about popularity.)

>>151906199

>two people kicking the ball at the same time

There's no way that doesn't end up either in a shitty shot at best or multiple lesions at the worst, why is it used that much?

Women are literally cancer.

>>151904816
Just have Hinata grow a few centimetre then.

>>151906080
>Free, Yuri on Ice, Cheer Danshi

>And they are always more realistic than their shounen counterparts
no. that just sounds like you don't know/read/watch any of those counterparts.

there are probably more realistic sports manga than there are not, and that probably applies to anime as well.

>>151906349
Name some shounen sports anime from the past decade more realistic than them retard.

>>151905504
Inazuma Eleven or maybe Dragon League?

Dragon League may not that much about superpower but it's fucking football with humanoid dinosaurs and animals in medieval fantasy setting.

>>151906278
Ayy fuck you. It's better than most sports anime for sure. Only Ping Pong the Animation is better from the ones I watched.

>>151906336
It probably won't happen. Recently there was a new short ace character introduced at the national youth camp Kageyama was at.

Also the whole small giant thing would be pointless if Hinata got too tall. The author really likes the whole kick the underdog thing too much to let it go.

>>151906270
protagonist is cool
whats bad about the writing?

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>>151905468
>the guy who stole abilities
Jesus christ, I forgot about that shit. But for Akashi, ankle breaking at will was an offset skill from Emperor Eye, which was just SEEING THE FUCKING FUTURE, but he got gimped in Extra Game because he was back to being normal Akashi and normal Akashi's power is Perfect Rhythm, not Emperor Eye even though he can still use Emperor Eye a little bit as normal Akashi but has to switch to his emperor personality for full efficacy but that wasn't enough because the Jabberwock faggot had Belial Eye which could see even further into the future so normal Akashi and emperor Akashi had to merge so they could have COMPLETE EMPEROR EYE which can see EVEN FURTHER into the future. So Akashi has COMPLETE EMPEROR EYE + PERFECT RHYTHM + ZONE AND HE CAN DUNK OVER PEOPLE HALF A FOOT TALLER THAN HIM EVEN THOUGH HE'S A FUCKING MANLET
AND KISE IS /STILL/ MORE OP BECAUSE HE CAN COPY ALL OF THAT SHIT AND EVERYONE ELSE'S SUPERPOWERS AT THE SAME TIME AND DO THEM ALL BETTER BECAUSE OF PERFECT COPY.

I forgot how retarded this shit was until I was typing it out. Kurokoball is so fucking stupid, why do I like it?

At least Fujimaki realized how badly he fucked up with Kise and gave him a forced cooldown.

>>151905368
Free is more of a character drama than a sports series. They spend very little screentime actually swimming or training.

>>151906304
Gay

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>>151906393
i like how you restricted it to the last decade, is it because you know how wrong you are?

but let's see:
cross game
oofuri
giant killing
daiya no ace
baby steps
you could even count one outs although that isn't a pure sports series

and again, countless more manga, be it baseball, boxing, mma or ballroom dancing. this genre is fucking packed and it's certainly not just popular with fujos you retard.

>>151905608
Im from Mexico
this video brought back so many memories

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What are some sportsmen from who were EXPOSED?

>>151906393
>>151906624
also even haikyuu isn't that out there in terms of realism.
yowamushi pedal probably is though.

and these are only the series i actually read/watched

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Sport kino tbqh

>>151905608
Holly shit I never realized they use exactly the same voices in spanish for Slam Dunk and Dragon Ball
the 2 fighting for the ball were Goku and Vegeta, even the narator is the same

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Can any of them even compare? Didn't think so.

have you heard about this great manga about diving?

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>>151906931
In my backlog. Have you heard of this great manga about mountain climbing?

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>>151907026
>>151906931
have you heard of this great manga about this autistic japanese memory game?

>>151901845
>overhyped
When was the last time you even saw a Haikyuu thread?

>>151903678
do you really want the current toei near it?

>>151907174
I don't know but every haikyuu thread I ever saw was just three people talking about how they are LITERALLY having a heart attack because of how hyped they are about some asshole doing regular volleyball techniques.

>>151906597
I just realized you might not have automatic archive redirects.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/150050344/#150051502

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>>151907117
Also in the backlog.

>>151906624
None of those are more realistic.

reskinned battle manga, it's the same shit

>>151907484
they all are.

>>151907701
Nope.

>>151901845
Someone else can train and get injured and lose instead of you. And you get the entire satisfaction of training and competing without lifting a finger. Unless you want to skip the OP, that is.
Also, the female fantasy of a bunch of unrealistically fit guys having homoerotic adventures with one another is pretty stronk. There's also this thing called cock envy, but I'm not so desperate for (you)s to devote time to writing about cock.

>>151907726
then go ahead and elaborate. i'll wait.

>>151904722

I need to give this one another shot at some point. I dropped back whenever, but people keep saying how good it is.

>>151902383
>gaining friendships through competitive sports

unless you're talking about your team, you're the beta

>>151907026

Kokou no Hito is great because of a lot of other things than it being about mountain climbing, though that is certainly a novelty.

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>>151907339
So your opinion is based on the first 2 or 3 episodes which are also the worst.
I'm enjoying All Out!! and I think more people should give it a try.

Third season of Yowamushi is starting next week.

Get hype for more cycling goodness.

>>151908398
I'm trying to think of what the directors could've done differently to give All Out a stronger start. Cover the initial ground more quickly?

>>151906235
Compared to other sports shows the games just aren't fun to watch due to inconsistent game flow and the show refusing to tell us anything about the sport besides the bare-bones.
Most of the characters also look ugly as sin, as well as break character by blushing while looking away every so often for that extra fujo pandering. Pillarman captain is great, though.

>>151908493
My most hyped show

>>151908493

Yowapeda made me take up cycling. A decent road bike was pretty expensive, but it's all worth it for those summer afternoons when you're cruising along the country roads.

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>>151908609
I don't know really, you think they could cut some scenes? Because maybe they were told to adapt everything.

>>151909150

I ended up dropping the show after 5 episodes.

The animation is kinda grotesque, to be honest. It took too long get rolling and into actual rugby matches that had any stakes. The plot seemed like your generic sports show, but it didn't have the interesting characters or character interaction to make up for this.

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>>151909150
Maybe condense the first two episodes into an episode and a half and get a primer on how the fuck rugby works like >>151908885 suggested. It's frustrating because the only thing limiting it from moving at a reasonable pace is Gion's stupidity and the creator deciding that it would be best to spread out to spread out tiny bits of info about rugby over relatively long stretches of time. (IIRC we're at vol 5/6 out of 10 published.) It took the team over a month of practice to start to explain a scrum and he still doesn't understand basic rules. I know you can't bombard a reader with everything at once, especially when it's something like rugby, but come on.

>>151908885
He sure is.

>>151901886
/thread

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>>151901845
>overhyped
they are pretty hype desu

Ok, so i dropped the episode around the end of the first cour, choosing not to continue it during the winter season, and this is why.

I love sports-anime. It's one of my favourite genres. Ace of the Diamond, Haikyuu and Chihayafuru are all among my favourite anime. But All out failed completely to stand out in the genre.

The characters are a big part of why.

I believe most sports-anime is in it's essence just character based shows that use the sport as a plotpoint for the progression of the story, and hence the characters really need to sell me on the show for me to get into it. And in All out, i only really had one character i felt i enjoyed having on screen, maybe 2. that being the club president and that one other 3rd year student who seems like a pretty big leader in the team. They felt well motivated, with matching personalities and quirks.

>>151911156
The main character of the story however fails to engage me. He has no real shortcomings other than in his gameplay. As a character he is too perfect. He always gives it his best, he is very accepting of feedback in every situation and even if he is loud and annoying, most teammembers naturally like him, all the time. Compare this to Hinata from "Haikyuu". They share the same gimmick of being characters whos bodytype hinders them in the game and who lack actual experience before the show, but hinata displays other shortcomings as well. He has real issues adapting to new ways of thinking, often getting stuck in tunnelvision. He is accutely prone to getting nervous and has a massive surperiority complex that is more than just "i punch you if you call me short". I feel the writer really tried to make the main character of All out! function like Hinata does but missed the things that actually made Hinata a great character, that being his personality and style of interacting with his teammates, especially how he functions in the rivalry/partnership with Kageyama. In All out, instead the guy just getts told he is bad, screams alot and slowly getts better at things he is talented at specifically, but never has any form of gripping chemestry with anyone else on the team.

Tree-trunk feels like he is hardly even a character, given little to no characterbuilding scenes except those about his past. And those scenes felt very brushed over all in all. This despite him being set as the main side-character.

I can't help but feel a massive wave of stale mediocre "product" creation with this show. It's just trying to be one among the masses of sports-anime and hardly even manages to be servicable as a result.

>>151911197
I also do want to say, in addition to all this, that i found All out! to have a very lackluster presentation of the sport it was using. Rugby is a very complex game of many positions that to an untrained eye all do the same thing, and the show did not even attempt to get people who don't already know how rugby works to get invested in the sport.

The action sequences also feel far to story-conveniant, rather than being a proper display of how a real game feels like. This is the same problem i had with Days from a season earlier. Both All out! and Days failed completely at selling the action of their sports as believable or well paced to feel like the sport is actually getting played. And this really lowered by experiences watching the shows.

>>151911197
>Hinata displays other shortcomings as well while the MC of All Out doesn't
Honestly Hinata really developed both gameplay wise and character wise during matches, which All Out just didn't have, instead we get a massive amount of training that doesn't feel like it leads anywhere.

>>151911498
Yea, this is true. But Hinata had a real character and personality right from the get go, even before their first match. His innitial training with Kageyama to win that first little 3v3 match showed real connection between him and the other members of the team. All out never did this in a way that engaged me. It just felt sad after a while how flat everything was.

>>151902709
>Majority will admit that Kuroko no basket is better
Where? Even during the Kurobas threads here, the others admitted that SD was better.

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>>151911596

>>151911870
Kuroko no Basket is hardly a sports-show in a reguler sense. It's more of a "Super-sports" show. It's like comparing Gundam to Gurren Lagann. Just a different variation of the genre completely

>>151901845
It's not a recent thing.

>>151901886
And neither is this one.

Does anybody even remember Capitan Tsubasa anymore?

>>151901886
What do you mean? What's fujo about them?

>>151906304
The one that gave birth to you definitely was.

>>151904998
Well, Sakuragi actually has the skill of a real Japanese.

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>>151911156
>>151911197
>>151911359
I get where you're coming from. Thanks for taking the time to break it down so thoroughly. I think with the basic complaints of characterization you bring up, the sheer size of a rugby team by its nature hinders the amount that a given character can develop. There's 15 players on the field per team at a given time and the main team has roughly 30 members if we're including the background players and even before getting through that, there's multiple other teams who have a handful of focus characters. It seems that everyone in the threads (myself included) is watching for Sekizan/Mutsumi/Ebumi/Miyuki and doesn't give much of a fuck about anyone else. I think the fact that the manga runs monthly instead of weekly like a number of better-regarded sports series also hurts it since there's significantly less source material to work with.

>>151914175
What are you talking about? There were no sports series before BSball. It's unpossible.

>>151914202
Sports series tend to be popular with fujos because of borderline all-male casts and male camaraderie.

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>>151915257
And so you don't think I'm pulling that "roughly 30" out of my ass, here's the full team roster.

>>151915257
>>151915498
Other shows can deal with a cast of 30 characters, by simply cleverly focusing on a few protagonists and giving them interesting characterizations and having the rest of the cast carry their weight largely in the background until it's their time to shine.

>>151911156
>hyakunin hisshu
>sport

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Sports anime need to calm down and focus back on Board Games

As much as I enjoy Haikyuu and Kuroko I want to see someone emulate the style of Hikaru no Go

Make the same type of sports style but apply it to something simple

I'd watch the shit out of a chess game in the style of hikaru no go

>>151916405
Japs can't into chess.

>>151916405
haven't read hikaru no go and you've probably already read this but 3 gatsu no lion goes into decent detail about shogi

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>>151916457
Well Shogi then

That's basically the same thing

>>151916565
There's plenty of nice shogi manga.

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>>151916564
That's slice of life
It's not the same

>>151916665
Why are you so opposed to punctuation?

>>151916775
To make you upset

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>>151916845
I can respect that level of dedication in an anon.

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>>151915720
I'm not saying a large cast is impossible to manage and develop well, just more difficult, especially on a monthly schedule. Almost all of the successful large cast series I can think of were weekly series. The difference between ~52 chapters of content per year and ~12 (assuming no holidays, illnesses, or author laziness) is huge. I'm not saying All Out couldn't have been handled better, I'm just trying to build onto your outline of reasons why it didn't reach that potential.

>runs monthly instead of weekly
>sizable cast by necessity of the sport
>newbie mangaka

I kind of want to read Yuki Shimaki now to see if anything improved between series.

>>151916405
There's always time for FKMT.

>>151916457
Are they too cool for it? The impression I got was that they like the iconography of it, which is why it shows up in shit like Highschool DxD, but not the game itself.

>>151916900
>Are they too cool for it?
They just don't have a chess culture. In Japan, shogi players write shogi manga. Fire fighters write fire fighting manga. A physician wrote Black Jack.
>The impression I got was that they like the iconography of it, which is why it shows up in shit like Highschool DxD, but not the game itself.
It's an exotic game that has the flair of sophistication. INTELLIGENT characters play it.
To us, it's just a game that old people play in the park and that our grand-dads keep challenging us to except we always find some excuse to get away from them.
If they had European grandparents, the Japanese wouldn't be as impressed with chess as they are.

>>151916900
>Are they too cool for it?
they have their native version of it so don't need it, it's just like a western writer is a billion times more likely to use chess than shogi in a story

>>151915257
Why arent Slamdunk and Prince of Tennis poplar on grills then?

Kuroko and Prince of tennis are easily the most bullshit sports anime i have ever seen, at least inazuma eleven is a kids show

You guys are forgetting the literal top of the Sports anime food chain....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKq0QdvBJJo

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>>151919337
>Prince of Tennis
>wasn't popular with grills
It's not guys who went to all those stage plays back in the day. If you don't see it get talked about it's because it's an older series, much like Slam Dunk. Most weebs only follow current series unless they have nothing else to watch. Slam Dunk has the benefit of broader appeal, the only people I knew who watched PoT were grills and the occasional guy who heard about the bullshit moves and wanted to see how bad it got.

https://youtu.be/9vG6QiEdPAA

>tfw no cricket anime

>>151920875
There's probably a manga of it somewhere that's never been and never will be scanned.

>>151920875
its racism against commonwealth nations

>>151919719
Major a best

B E S T

>>151901886
Fujos make better sports anime than manchildren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z129lcSuE9I

>better drama
>believable characters
>belieavable super powers
>actually give information about the sport

Why do manchildren even try to do sports anymore? They should leave it to the women. Japanese women are more alpha than their c_ck men anyway.

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>>151916612
>>151916565
>>151916457
One of my favourite anime (that no one watched) is a shougi anime.

C'mon guys. get on my level...I've watched all the good sports anime. Proof here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-D6RwES6Ls

>>151904290
Or just read a shounen in another magazine.
Or just read some of Jump's other magazines.

>>151921086

Last time I was reading this, the team was in the locker room talking about wet dreams/their ideal sex scenario with the opposite sex.

I think the author might have been trying to un-gayify the manga. And/or make it more realistic to boys high school baseball. Still fucking random though.

>>151901845
Isn't volleyball a girls sport? How can you guys watch this?

Tokyo 2020

>>151905608
ROMPER ESTA BARRERA, SIN DUDARLO

>>151903260
Fujos were a thing even during (and before) Slam Dunk, anon.

Right now it's just a different generation of fujos.

>>151923463
Seems pretty typical. Even when the majority of fans are fujos they don't want the male readers to feel insecure. I'd say more sports series try harder to pander to waifufags even though it's probably never gonna be hugely popular with them.

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>underage faggots in this thread seriously trying to claim Slam Dunk wasn't a fujo sacred text

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>>151916900
Saki more Tanoshii

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>>151923501
I cant tell if they are girls or guys.

Seriously, why is there no anime with girls volley ball? Other than beach eps of course?

>>151924980
>4th from right
>asymmetric legwear
muh

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>>151924980
Because the only reason anyone would care about it is ecchi (and even if it's not an ecchi series people will still write it off as one) and that means it will sell poorly. No one takes women's sports seriously enough to care beyond sex appeal, while fujos don't need their men to be constantly half-naked to be appealed to.

>>151906080
>Yuri on Ice
>realistic
You do realize that professional figure skaters who are fans has come out and said most of those performances in the show are impossible to pull off right?

>>151925423
Impossible because of the inhuman stamina it requires, not the moves themselves being impossible.

>>151925620
Meaning its not realistic

>>151925680
Anime is not realistic. If you want realistic then watch real sports.

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>>151924980
but there is

>>151923501
Some posts on this thread proved otherwise.

Also, if that's the case all characters in the anime would be sissy boys.

>>151925620
You're a fucking idiot
>>151925726
Then your argument makes no sense.

>>151927122
You haven't even been correctly arguing against that anon's point from the beginning. They said MORE realistic, not perfectly realistic.
Idiot.

>>151927122
Only because you're an illiterate retard. I never said anime had to be realistic in the first place. Criticizing a fucking anime, of all things, of being unrealistic is just you being a nitpicky autist looking for something to whine about.

>>151927274
>They said MORE realistic
And he's wrong its not more realistic ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PROFESSIONALS POINT IT OUT. Now fuck off back to your cancerous threads.

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>>151923501
>How can you guys watch this?
It doesn't have characters I want to fuck in the ass, so I don't.

>>151925423
It isn't in the same ballpark as PoT/KnB-esque super powered sports though, surely you can at least acknowledge that. YOI takes it further than what is currently possible, but still at the point that you could imagine someone pulling it off some day. Figure skating isn't a stagnant sport, quads weren't always the norm but now they are, maybe one day people will get on YOI's level. They aren't doing anything magical or inventing moves, they're doing an extra few quads per program or doing them later in the program, which is an issue of unrealistic stamina rather than unrealistic moves.

>>151901845
I'm glad sports anime are popular
I don't watch them, but it's good to know that the medium works for just about anything as long as it's well written
I just wish we saw more of it in the west (well written shows)

>>151901886
/thread

>>151927506
>>151927274
>Makes a stupid as claim
>anon points out that his stupid claim is wrong
>S-So what? A-All anime is unrealistic

>>151901886
>>151901959
>>151910379
>Haikyuu
>Fujoshit
It's shonen series flooded by Fojoshi fan, dumbass. This is not fujobait series like Homo on Ice nor Free at all. Learn the difference.
There's nothing homo about this series. You were just fooled by /a/ meme.

Level of homo-ness
>Faggot on Ice = Super Lovers > Free > Faggot Idols > Kurobas >>>>> Shin Sekai Yori >>>> Evangelion >>>>>> Haikyuu.

Prove me wrong.
t. Homophobe

>>151927687
Kurobas is no gayer than Haikyuu, they're almost exactly the same in the sense that they're 100% sport with big fujo fanbases because they like the relationship dynamics even if they're platonic.

>>151927546
>It isn't in the same ballpark as PoT/KnB-esque super powered sports though
Everyone in this thread has literally acknowledged that those titles are the bottom of the barrel of accurate sports manga.
>Figure skating isn't a stagnant sport, quads weren't always the norm but now they are, maybe one day people will get on YOI's level.
No they're literally fucking impossible to pull off unless you're a superhuman since Yamamoto and Kubo just combined a series of formations that have never bern attempted successfully, same way the series endorses males doing female skate routines which is a big no-no in the field. Who cares YOI is just Kubo's shitty fanfic universe where nobody cares about sexuality or being gay in general so of course its figure sksting would slide on the absurd.

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>>151927687
>Faggot Idols
There's too many idol shows now to say that if you're trying to refer to a specific series.

>Kurokoball bromances being gayer than a show that had dudes kissing in it

sports is probably the genre with the highest average quality shows.
every other genre is bloated with lots of trash shows, then again there aren't that many sports anime to begin with.

>>151905346
>/u/
Damn, the paranoia is hilarious.

>>151901845
>haikyuu.jpg

Haikyuu is actually good though.

Kuroko, Ace of Diamond, Yowapedal, Free, All Out, Days, Prince of Stride, etc. have all been boring or straight up bad. But Haikyuu has fun characters, decent pacing, and godlike production values.

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I WANT TO MARRY YACHI

>>151907731
>unrealistically fit guys
Most people on /fit/ have better bodies.

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>>151928474
This. Haikyuu girls are Top tier.

>>151904722
It appeals to my autism like no other show. S3 when

>>151904433
apparently, the otaku aren't interested in sports anime, and the fujos aren't interested in girls. Maybe if there's a sports anime that slaps some romantic interests.

Haikyuu is pretty cool tho. U put white ppl on that they'd probably like it.

>>151905504
does Saki count?

>>151905608
I have more fun with decision making (and personally I like games in which you have a great range for how severe one's mistake can be, in other words, in sports like volleyball and basketball, at worst you lose one point, or three), so this (among other things in the anime) is dope, for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6U8VoHWrkw

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>ctrl + f
>1 One Outs mention
>although that isn't a pure sports series
What an idiot.

>>151903376
I like it when "superpowers" serve to add more possibilities to a game, thus making it more complex (instead of rendering regular attacks and tactics impractical)

>>151903258
Have you seen Haikyuu? Also, Yuri on Ice is commended by a lot of professional figure skaters.

>>151920875
There's a manga if I'm not wrong, but I can't remember the name.

>>151932629
That's probably because of all the gayshit

Oofuri is the only good sports anime

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>>151928731
Most people on fit are pictures found on reverse image search.
Next thing you're going to say is that /x/ has really talked to the Devil.

>>151927687
There's nothing homo about Free! unless you're wearing goggles.

it's called スポ根 and it has existed since 巨人の星.

>>151901845
I actually feel bad for people who didn't watch Haikyuu. It's actually one of the best sports anime currently.

Sports anime lover here, Haikyuu is legitimately great for production, animation, and OST, and at least good for characters and not devolving into bullshit sports. It's grounded.

>>151932629
You mean professional GAY figure skaters and a fujoshi?

>>151901845
Sports anime have a very broad appeal and are non-offensive, easy to market to the west

>>151936677
>You mean professional GAY figure skaters

So all of them?

>>151923501
volleyball is for both. probably is the only sport that has the same popularity for women and men.

>tfw adachi mitsuru still hasn't gained popularity

>>151905504
keijo

>>151923501
>He hasn't watched those hype as fuck men volleyball matches
Olympics were fucking great for volleyfags like me

haikyuu is shit. you can only claim your protagonists are the epitome of hardwork taking on genius level talent before you realise that your main character has something like a 50+ inch vertical, lateral movement, speed, agility, and reaction time to match peak human performance, all while having practiced the game something like 4 years less than his opponents while having done close to 0 physical training, and outside of his height being the only shortcoming he can practically do nothing wrong.

>>151937844
There is a point where you have to accept that it's a shonen manga.
If you don't like that, read real or something.

>>151937869
honestly i would tolerate it less if his sheer physical superiority was forced down our throats less at the beginning. it could have led to a more realistic ability progression, opened up more plot points, (e.g. training arcs when he actually meets opponents more physically gifted than he is) rather than being fucking usain bolt in a 15 year old's body or something.

>>151937955
tolerate it more*

>>151927772
You don't really know anything about figure skating at all, do you? None of the characters in YoI are attempting jumps or jump combinations that haven't been landed irl. The biggest inaccuracy in the show is characters attempting quads very late in their programs, real skaters wouldn't do that because it simply isn't worth the risk but at the same time it downright impossible.
I'd definitely count Yuri on Ice as one of the accurate sports anime I've watched.

In fact the biggest complaint from figure skating fans hasn't been about the skating at all, it's been about the scoring not making sense, which is kind of a different problem.

>>151928416
I would say Ace of the Diamond has just as high production values as Haikyuu. I found them very similer experiences to watch and i love them both.

Kuroko also is no real slouch in actual value but it's a different subgenre, going more into the super-sports genre, and as of such has a very different feeling than Haikyuu or Daiya no A.

>>151915257
I don't see having big teams as a hindrance for well-written character development though. One of my favourite sports-anime is Ace of the Diamond and that show has a massive cast. Now given, it also has hundreds of episodes but i think it had done way more by episode 12 than All out did.

And i also don't crave that all 30 members of the team should be fully fleshed out. I just want 2-3 of them to have really good levels of writing behind them, and maybe 5-6 more that are decent, and then the rest can be background people just fine. This is the roundabout ratio Haikyuu uses, and Ace of the Diamond, and even Ping Pong, the ultimate in sports-anime character dramas that i did not even mention in my original post for it being just too out of every other sports-animes league.

And i get that there being 15 people, who are all active at all times, on a field at the same time is hard to make feel believable and well represented during the games. This was a massive issue in Days too. I honestly don't know HOW they could fix this issue but the way they are handling it now is just not working. Maybe it's jsut a close to impossible feat to manage this in the anime genre.

I would look towards american live-action movies about American Football for inspiration but those are so full of other BS that i can't sit through them... so i won't know how they handle it.

What makes Volleyball or Baseball such great sports for anime is that there are only a few active players at any time, so having certain characters hog screentime works while still keeping the focus feeling justified since no one else is active at that very moment. The games also have alot of natural breaks for the exposition dropping sidecharacters to come in and talk over the game. Rugby and Soccer just don't have that in the same way and that makes it hard to manage both providing a proper focus on the characters AND a believable gameflow in the action.

I hope one day we get a Sports-anime that manages.

>>151927687
>putting free and kurobas above shin sekai yori

are you for real

free and kurobas are as gay as haikyuu, in other words they are not gay

>>151939325
Free is gayer than Haikyu though

>>151940930
Why, because the clothes are skintight?

>>151901886
Yup.

>>151941016
Kabedons and half-naked hugs are as gay as no-homo can get.

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>>151941016
Well yeah, and they also act more like girls most of the time.

>>151902444
Something Awful?

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>>151942035
Does that place even exist anymore?

>>151937133
Keijo would fit the criteria, and fail it at the same time (the abilities are explained as human talents, and you have superhuman feats such as air shockwaves that bounce through walls to hit another player)

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>>151906734
Gatsu no lion is the only sports anime that is good after Ping Pong.

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>>151924263
>using Bokuto to baitpost instead of Baitmaster Kuroo

Clever game, but transparent.

>>151905504
Hikaru no Go

>>151905504
Saki definitely.