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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

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New chapter is out

Arc 4 Chapter 88:
https://mega.nz/#!sMc0WCTB!81HCoOxgWcLxqAtOq3lNRktkoygiJ_B8wy3Tx8nSFfQ

Will Subaru win the bet?
Will Gaaf stop being a bitch?
Why is this dynamic duo so based?
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>151893759
You're as dedicated to this as Subaru is to Rem.
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>>151893728
>Gettin' chapter literally 10 mins after you woke up.
Hell man, you're so awesome.
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>>151893759

>seasonal waifu
>absolute trash shit
>cucked by emilia-tan
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>>151894206
More like seasonal trash tier post. Rem was a waifu before she had official art.

>cucked by emilia-tan

Other way around, Rem pursued Subaru despite knowing Emilia had a crush on him and the elf still had to share with another girl before he even confessed to her. This is a royal candidate we're talking about here.
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>>151894206
>Emilia shitters are prone to spouting animeonly nonsense

Really makes you think.
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>>151894206
>Emilishit so pathetic she is currently losing to a girl eternally sleeping
Can't wait for Emilishitfags tears when this is over
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>>151894351
>>151894404
>>151894511
Don´t reply to such a painfully obvious bait
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>>151893728
When Summaryanon finishes arc 4 he should upload all his stuff to ReadZero. It's like open source for translations. Where translators can edit each other's stuff in real time. Ideally Chicken and others involved with ReadZero can smooth out the kinks or errors then we'll have a definitive arc 4 translation.
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>>151893821
What happens when Rem actually wakes up though?
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>>151894595
Thread shitstorm. No matter how it concludes it will result in a thread explosion of any kind.
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Why couldn't she go around giving people hickies like any other vampire?
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Gaaf will always be a giant pussy
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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stolen from /v/

>5pb. has released the opening movie for ReZero -Starting Life in Another World- Death or Kiss, its upcoming PlayStation 4 and PS Vita visual novel based on the popular anime and light novel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_OiQzHtVM

Also is this really the game we're getting?
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>>151895016

They really do like spamming the same pics over and over. It looks cheaply made.
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You are going to love this.

http://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60800596
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>>151895215
>that clown

what
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>>151895080
You know it's clever to not show your full hand right away, ever thought about that?
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>>151895016
I sense the absence of suffering in this one, so i'm not entirely hyped. Nothing wrong to check couple of routes if it's ever get translated tho.
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>>151895437
Not surprising. The premise is silly and features Felt and Ram routes. It's very far removed from the flavor of MU Re:Zero.

Maybe if we get a S2 it'll get another game that's faithful to the source. What are the odds though.
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>>151895016
Who this?
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So it seems we will get a bunch of new rem related booklets at the Rem birthday event.
I hope Remon can get his hands on some of them
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>>151895567
What if we bribe Lemon into translating arc 5 with rare Rem books
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>>151895539
Dunno. Could be an original character tied to the the pageant or something.
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>>151895215
I do anon, I really do
>Puck´s contract breaks if you cum inside Emilia
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>>151895215
Was going to say poor felix. But then Al is suffering the most.
Also wouldn't rein be the mida's touch with all his blessings?
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>>151895876
>Was going to say poor felix. But then Al is suffering the most.

Nigger, their waifus are fucking them, they love it.
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I'm currently in the process of recording myself reading all the chapters to make an audio book version for a friend who can't read it, Garfs dialogue has proven difficult
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>>151895938

>who can't read them

Why?
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>>151895938
Do a southern drawl or something.
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>>151895876
Felix is a lucky son of a bitch. I want Crusch to poke my prostate.
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>>151895215
>suddenly clown cock
why.jpg
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>>151895215
I like it you get a (You)
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>>151895963
I guess he tried to choke Roswaal two times in a row.
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>>151895973
He keeps sounding like Dartz from Yugioh abridged and I'm not okay with it
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>>151895963
He's just too busy to read it, but he would be able to listen to it so I offered
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>>151896039
It sets off my autsim that it doesn't end with Mimi chomping that (You).
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>>151895963
I agree with your statement but I do have friends that won't read things unless it's a Visual Novel or Audio book.
>>151895938
Let us know how it goes anon, even if it's average it would help bring a couple of my friends onto the scene. God speed
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>Emilia is like a surrogate nee-san
>Rem is like a surrogate mommy

What does this say about Subaru?
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>>151896490
>I do have friends that won't read things unless it's a Visual Novel or Audio book.
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https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2017/01/05/arc-6-chapter-5-each-of-their-unease/

Lemon did chapter 5 from arc 6.
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>>151895215
>Suddenly clown cock

Roswaal ruins everything.
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>>151895080
Typical 5pb intro, they just want to milk the cow.
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>>151896490
But VN have tons of WORDS WORDS WORDS too and a real novel is often shorter.
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>>151896902
Based Lemon
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>>151895016
That looks fucking terrible. The images looks like they were ripped straight out of the anime. And it doesn't look like there's much variety in them.

>That happy as fuck sounding OP

I know it's a gauge game for fanservice but it feels a tad odd for Re:zero
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>>151897174
Yep, but I think its more the voices and OST keep their attention. It's hard enough to get friends on VN's rather than be anime only. Or worse they only watch anime when it's completely finished and all discussion is gone.
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>>151897272
5pb tends to do that, for example the Vita game of Yahari didn't even have an actual OP.
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>>151897313
I personally prefer to read the source material rather than watch adaptation and stop at that. If, for example, there are lot of content beyond said adaptation then it's to my liking, like with Spice & Wolf, Berserk etc. Same goes for VN - i reaaaly like F/SN and S;G, but i've never watched adaptation for those. There are cutting a lot of important content and developments for the sake of good looks and all and there you go. And i don't want to trade depth, inner monologues, setting set up for some unimportant crap like animation and all.
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The NTR survived the fire. Two copies it seems.
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>>151897954
Dear god. It's for real.
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>>151897954
Kuma-chan died for nothing.
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>>151898041
Wata am I looking at?
The place where one his cats died?
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>>151897954
>>151892369
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>>151898084
There's no body, that's just the silhouette from where the cat used to sleep i think.
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What if Remu crossed universes to exact revenge?
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>>151898241
I would lock her in my basement, emulate Fritzl and post pictures to all the Remfaggots.
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>>151898311
>lock her in my basement
Reminds me of a certain cat-eared passive-aggressive faggot with questionable mentality.
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>>151898311
>lock her in my basement

How will you do that when she can gib grown men three times her size before she even brings out the horn?
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>>151898450
She made the mistake of coming over to a world without magic.
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I just watched the anime. If I want to continue with the manga should I read from the beginning or the point where anime ended?
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>>151898503

Manga is behind the anime.

http://pastebin.com/gWi7LURJ
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>>151898503
The source material is WN/LN
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>>151898604
>>151898604
Ah, cool. Thanks mates.
Is the anime gettin a second season?
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>>151898812

No
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>>151898812
Maybe in a few years, LN has not enough content for a 2 cour.
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BD 8 cover.

Also, i never noticed the animal fur cape on her back. I'm guessing it's Echidna the artificial spirit.
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>>151899897
Can't wait to see if they decensored some scenes of the witch cult massacre.
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https://picarto.tv/nobbydraws

taking draw requests for a bit!
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>>151900565
Draw subaru feeding daphne
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>>151900565
Ram proud of her new batch of baked yams.
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>>151897954
I'd have assumed he'd have already sold some by now. Still, does it really matter if the evidence of his sins survives? Let it be a cold comfort for him so he may reflect upon his error.
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Shielder looks like Rem
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>>151900565

Ferri massaging Crusch-sama and Crusch-sama massaging Ferri.
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>Body burning up, face flushed, and bosom heaving with restless pants of excitement.
>Cooking, cleaning, laundry, despite seeking all kinds of tedious everyday business to run around on, her thoughts haven't been on the work for a long time, her mind already completely occupied by other considerations.
>While hurriedly trotting through the corridor, half of her mind wondered how to complete the rest of her work as soon as possible, while the remaining other half, couldn't do anything but pine after the source of this passion that caused the pounding in her chest,
>"────Ah!"
>Suddenly, on account of seeing what arrived, a bashful cry of alarm escaped the girl's throat.
I do not know Chinese. This is a fucking pain in the ass.
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>>151901372
I know someone who had good knowledge of Chinese, but i'm not sure if they'd translate stuff now, they were doing arc 1 at first i think, but them suddenly stopped.
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>>151901691
Fuck it. I just need the gist of sentences so I can wrap my head around them. I'm sort of just clumsily piecing this together from words and bits of grammar I don't understand very well.
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>>151901691
Well that sucks. Just keep up the good work regardless, that or request help from other sources.
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>>151896902
>It was a one of a kind wheelchair that Subaru insisted on making to Roswaal, and he made with his own money.

He provides for his wife, don'tcha know?
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>>151900962
>IT WAS ME, ROSWAAL!
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>>151901142
I want to get a drawfiend to draw Rem as Shielder and Subaru as Gudao.
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>>151901868
Well, I guess I'm just going to have to stare at lists of words until they make sense. This is probably going to result in a barely accurate translation based on guesswork, and I'm not going to bother making it sound pretty on my first run through. Anyhow, time to continue mangling a foreign language!
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>>151893759
Please dont ever stop posting this because if you ever miss a day or general it would feel like a bad omen.
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>>151900671
here you go!
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>>151902807
Can I ask you to draw Rem as Mashu (girl on the left) and Subaru as Gudao (boy on the right) if you're still taking requests?
No need to bother with the guy in the middle, unless you wanna. I'd recommend Roswaal as him.
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>>151902386
I just had to figure out what a word meant from looking at examples in text, because I couldn't find it in any dictionary. This is probably not the right way to translate something, but fuck it.
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>>151900962
uhh they were purple, right?

>>151903030
sorry man, I'm heading out rn
can I ask what they're from? I don't usually like to draw stuff I haven't seen or read
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Hoping Clown wins the bet and makes Barusu his bitch.
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>>151903474
Fate Grand Order. S'cool, thanks for all the drawings so far, dude.
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Hoping memories eaten by Gluttony are gone forever.
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Otto is toyotas nigga
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>>151906498
Otto talks like he a bitch but when shit goes down, he's the realest nigga Mazda's got.
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>>151895016
>not available in your country.
Well puck you too.
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>>151893728
>https://mega.nz/#!sMc0WCTB!81HCoOxgWcLxqAtOq3lNRktkoygiJ_B8wy3Tx8nSFfQ

Does anyone have the link for the whole set of translated chapters? I still need to download chapter 60 and up
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Do you think Al actually likes it?
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>>151907213
mega:///#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>151907259
That's not Al's helmet though.
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>>151907268
Thanks Anon.
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>>151907303
Look again. He's looking straight up. You've got his mouthgaurd on top with the neck cover and little flaps falling from it.
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>>151907259
If there's a reward at the end, who wouldn't.
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>>151907652
Not to mention he can enjoy the reward for as long as he wants to, using his power to loop it around.
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>While Rigel’s personality, speech, and actions are similar to his own, it comforts Subaru that at the very least the other kids don’t bully him. At the same time, it doesn’t feel like they accept him as one of their own, making Rigel’s future admittedly not too bright.

What a nice display of confidence towards your child's future.
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>>151907975
Well, it's part of his thing to bully Rigel. We all know the boy is going to grow up to become the hero he failed to be. I mean, he's a Subaru with the strength of a Rem, instead of merely being /fit/.
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>>151907975
He's a halfblood and his parents grew up to be maladjusted nerds but despite the odds he'll manage.
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>>151907213
Have you read the interludes and the available chapters on TranslationChicken?
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>In response to Rem’s bold accusations, Subaru could only stare into the distance while muttering sheepishly. In the distance, Rigel, who was currently being treated as a “mistake,” showed a sour face, but he read the
atmosphere and calmed down without saying anything. Quite a kid, Subaru thought.

Jesus Christ, if this is a showcase of what kind of parent Subaru would be, whoever he chooses in the end I just really pity their children.
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>>151908537
Subaru's imitating how his own dad raised him, and I think he turned out just fine.
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>>151908605

Mayonaised
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>>151895215
>anastasia
>felt
>those breasts

It's really annoying when doujin artists give character completely different body types than the ones they actually have.
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>>151908605
Yeah, I think some anons are being melodramatic about it. It's pretty much the same bantz his mom and dad teased him with down to the sanpaku eyes. Rem herself was practically raised by Ram too so any offspring of Rem is doomed to this with or without Subaru.
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>>151908511
You mean the Rem interludes? If so then yes, i've read them, and the interlude discussing Rem and Crusch's memory problems.

If it's something other than those three, then no, probably not.
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>>151908605
>hikkineet
>just fine
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>>151908910
Yes those were probably Arc 3 Interludes 2 and 3. TranslationChicken has also translated Arc 4 Chapters 1-13. They are fully translated unlike the Anon's chapters, I'd recommend to read them.
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>>151909104
He was just a run of the mill highschool loser who recently started skipping school but would've bounced back.


>Q: If Subaru grew up without ever going to the other world, would he live on without having an occupation? What would happen to Subaru if he went through “a life in a different world starting from no occupation” sort of thing? Specifically speaking, if he were to be a middle-aged man with views of a high school student that tried to rush into the different world, he would probably fall into nothing but despair, huh.
>A: Nope. If he never went to the other world he would get scolded by Kenichi(his father) around the time he’d graduated high school and would withdraw from being a hikikomori. Kenichi would then support Subaru by rehabilitating him in his workplace. After about 2 years, he would enter university, graduate as a loner, become a working adult, and with stability of those reasonably essential qualities, he would honestly be living life as a full-fledged member of society, and then he would cling on to a kouhai with such a heart that-a Rem kind of heart-she would find his incompetence cute. They would have a normal marriage, and then he would live a suitably happy life until he died. There’s no way his dad would continue to be that irresponsible towards his son, you know
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>>151909262
>bounced back
He would have been dragged into the world by his father, without whom he'd have killed himself as an otakuneet when he reached wizardhood.
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>>151909262
He'd led a boring wageslave salaryman life.
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>>151909262
Exactly, Subaru was just a social dingus trying to act like his whacky father and didn't have the self awareness to realize not to act like a dingus day one of highschool.

Even in his echidna dreams his father is trying to get him out of the house.
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>>151908605
the natsuki bloodline makes for pretty good fathers it seems.
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>>151903474
Looks nice, thanks.
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>>151909668
>literally throw your 7 year old son out in the street and tell him to find some "friend's house" to stay at night because you want to fuck
>good father

I'm pretty sure Rigel would have it a easier time living with his aunt or something.
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>>151910292
>auntie Ram and Rigel team up to bully and inconvenience Subaru

too bad she's dead
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>>151910373
He just needs to make a Rigel in the MU, so Ram can prepare him a shotgun wedding and be the main babysitter for Subaru and Rem's demonspawn.
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>>151910292
Well he wouldn't have said that if the place wasn't safe and they didn't have someone to go to.

As dismissed as they seem at times i'm pretty sure they wouldn't just allow him to go around aimlessly, also with their baby daughter in hand.
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>>151910292
>>literally throw your 7 year old son out in the street and tell him to find some "friend's house" to stay at night because you want to fuck
>>good father

Helicopter boomer/homo detected

Telling your kids to fuck off in the woods so you can plow your demon waifu is part of the human experience.
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>>151910433
He just has to get Rem to wake up first, then he can make a Rigel.
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>>151895215
>You are going to love this

Looks like a future arson victim
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>>151910699
It's Emilia so it's ok.
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why is anastasia referred as a jew?

haven't seen any jewish behavior from in the anime?
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>>151910902
>Greedy merchant
You tell me
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>>151910902
>her entire character is profit for the sake of profit
>no jewish behaviour
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>>151910628
Sorry daddy and mommy didn't love you anon.
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>>151910373
He can go live with "aunt" emilia then. I'm sure she's still alive since puck haven't turned the world into a freezer.
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>>151895539
He's the guy who steals Emilia if you don't choose her. Not that anyone will care or notice.
>>151911118
Nah. Reinhard can one-shot Puck.
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>>151895215
Roswaal ruins everything.
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>>151911039
Sorry you were too retarded to be left to your own devices until you were 37.
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Make room for best waifu
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>>151911213
t.neckbeard
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>>151911315
What is mommy making for dinner tonight?
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Does Emilia support Subaru's love for Rem? It gets him off her back.
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>>151910373
Im pretty sure Rigel's hair is blue

The fuck is this
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>>151911533
Shotaburu
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>>151911388
She's jealous. Some say she might be super jealous if she remembered Rem. There's certainly some foreshadowing here and there.

>“Why is it you’re so merciless when it comes to me?!”

>Subaru yelled at Rem, who always bore in mind her position, or rather, bore in mind how to use her position to her advantage. While watching their comedy sketch-like exchange, Emilia looked thoughtful, then turned her head to the side as if trying to shake off an idea.
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>>151911388
She doesn't seem to actively go against it, and wants to help restore Rem, but she seems a little jealous at the same time and doesn't entirely understand what their relationship is. Who did she count alongside Rem again? I know Petrasche was on that list.

So let's dig it up.
>[Emilia: To me, to Rem, to Beatrice, to Petra, to Patrasche, to Otto-kun, to Garfiel, we all want you to be reaaally reaaally happy!]
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If Subaru keeps fooling around wasting time on the sleeping oni Emilia will lose her patience and go the CLOWNED route.
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>>151910649
Nah they will get cockblocked yet again.

I doubt everyone will want Subaru and Rem to have a baby considering all the shit going on in that world.
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>>151911388
Because she cannot fully grasp the concept of love she is incapable of realizing that the odd feeling she has when watches them together is in fact jealousliness.

In early arc 4 she tells its ok for him to love both, but we are talking a situation where emilia does not remember Rem, nor the latter is able to do any advances with subaru.

Once she wakes up we will finnaly get to know the extent of Emilia's love for Subaru, competition sprungs dark feelings
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>>151910902
>Calls herself greedy
>Talks to Subaru how to do deals with others in order to win and leave the other with almost nothing

Not sure how you did not make the connection. The anime did make their speeches short but even so.
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>>151893759
>mfw author is a massive Emiliafag
>mfw he initially made Rem as unlikable as possible in a sorry bid to try and keep the knife-eared whore the "best girl" in the eyes of the majority
>mfw he never the less ends up writing the maid he never liked into the disputable best girl
>mfw overwhelming majority of readers now consider her best girl by such a great margin, they might as well have forgotten about Emilia completely
>mfw in a last ditch effort to make the elfslut, he forces everyone in the story to forget about Rem
>Doesn't matter, still best girl
>mfw he tries to distract readers with Rem ending noncanon stories
>Doesn't matter, readers still demand a canon Rem ending
>mfw he's facing exponentially increasing pressure every single day that will cascade into his exile from the industry if he ends the story on any note but a Rem ending

Is this what it feels like to win?
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>>151912248
Why do people say he doesn't like Rem? You guys assume too much. He has some photos of him smiling being fed by a drawing of Rem either someone sent him or had made.

If he hated her that much, he'd have killed her in the gluttony incident.
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>>151912248
Actually, I think he said his favorite characters are Subaru, Otto, Garfiel, and Wilhelm.

In other news, Rem's parents were shit. "You should try to be more like your demigod sister".
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>>151912386
They were probably unaware of how she'd feel that immense pressure from trying to be like Ram. Those don't look like the faces of parents who don't care about their children, but clearly they're a tad clueless on noticing her struggle.

Not that far fetched considering they are only alive now because Ram displayed insane power when she was still a newborn.
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>>151912493
>They were probably unaware of how she'd feel that immense pressure from trying to be like Ram.
Probably, but they're still always comparing them, and told her "not to make her sister worry" after she got caught in that storm.

Anyhow, time for inappropriate facial expressions of delight!
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Is Emilia's jealousy going to be THAT bad when Rem wakes up? I mean it's not like Emilia and Rem have never had a good relationship before. In fact, they were good friends before the gluttony incident happened, so I don't see why Emilia should be madder at Rem since she already knows how close Rem and Subaru really are. She will still feel jealous for sure but I think it won't be that big of a deal.
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Oh, seems the manga includes an internal monologue. Awesome!
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>>151912710
I don't think it's going to be a big deal, but she'll probably start acting a bit odd. She kicked Subaru when Shaula attached herself to his arm, and pulled his hair in an attempt to "free" him from her grasp. Rem's probably going to be safe from whatever bullshit Emilia might pull, but Subaru is might get some shit for it.
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>>151912386
>Actually, I think he said his favorite characters are Subaru, Otto, Garfiel, and Wilhelm.

Source?
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>>151912856
I skimmed over the Q&A with google translate.

Anyhow. Rem's line here really reminds me of Arc 4 Subaru.
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>>151911388
Only started reading the LN translations recently, but at one point she says something like "I would be upset if reviving her meant losing a portion of your love, but since it seems you've rationed your love for us evenly, it's fine." or something
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>>151912969
you mean the Web Novel translation? isnt this line from the arc 4? LN havent caught up to arc 4 yet.
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>>151913109
I've been reading the translations posted here
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>>151913197
Yup those are translations from the Web Novel version alright.
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>>151912710
It's just a theory that drama might ensue since Tappei bothered to mention Emilia watching their interactions or expressing jealousy before Subaru openly returned Rem's love. It's also an easy dilemma for the Emilia = Satella camp.
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Subaru really needs to start taking his own advice, even if he was probably just spouting lines he heard from his anime to sound cool.
>>151913291
There will probably be drama, but Subaru is most likely to bear the brunt of it.
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>>151910699
Nobody cares about Emilia so they could literally make a troop of niggers rape her into brokenness and no one would mind.

Now Remfags, those are insane enough to murder your family if you draw one page implying her having sex with someone other than Toyota.
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>>151912248
>>mfw he's facing exponentially increasing pressure every single day that will cascade into his exile from the industry if he ends the story on any note but a Rem ending

That's actually accurate I think

He can either a) kill of Rem after letting the fanbase wait for years for her return and lose the majority of his audience + massive hate towards him and emilia or b) give Rem the happy ending she deserves and create one of the most popular female characters and couple in anime
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>>151912710
They weren't necessarily good friends. She actively kept Emilia at arm's length.

Rem had a lot of thoughts about Emilia in this scene and it's quite conflicted.

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/arc-3-rem-taking-care-of-subaru-and-camping-out/
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>>151912940
>>151912940
>Subaru : If I suffer the most, experience the most, and protect everyone, nobody has to feel pain except me. I don't want anything more than that!

Yeah their beliefs in sacrificing themselves for others are very similar
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>>151913474
>the madman pretends he's giving the happy ending
>suddenly kills Rem
>goes back to being a butcher
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I don't get why people think Tappei wants to kill Rem (or how, seriously. Tappei probably wouldn't want to do the save point trick again. That's boring). He could have done it earlier and if you're aware of every plot thread, detail, and bits of foreshadowing up to the current wn chapter then you'll know Rem is guaranteed to wake up. Whether she'll wake up in one piece? We'll see.
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>>151912880
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>>151913560
good thing he said in an q&a that he aims for "the perfect happy ending" and that re:zero is a heartwarming story

I doubt that works without Rem
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>>151913690
The man is also a sadist who enjoys the suffering he causes.
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>>151913560
Best ending. Rem gets pregnant and has Subaru's babies. Worst ending. Subaru's babies are tainted by witchy stuff and come out as horribly monsters who take over the world.
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>>151913197
You have read what the pastebin told you right? >>151898574
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>>151913690
he just likes to tease the audience since he knows how much attached they are to the characters and there's a reason why he didn't kill of any of the characters permanently yet and probably won't in the future

I don't really think that he as sadistic as people claim
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Speaking of Subaru paralleling other characters, I noticed there was this one off self-deprecating comment early in the fourth arc where he says he's the type who gives up and uses walkthroughs. I'm probably reading too much into it but I lile to think it was a nod to Roswaal himself.
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>>151913727
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>>151913774
Yes. I've read the interludes and epilogue. I didn't read the translation chicken stuff, and just started on the unpolished stuff instead
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>>151913919
this pretty much, a happy ending is much more satisfying if the path was rough
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>>151913483
Well they certainly are not BFFs, but at least they still can sympathize with one another so that's something I guess.
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>>151913663
>Whether she'll wake up in one piece?
This right here is the problem. Tappei might not kill Rem until near the end of the story, but there are a lot of ways of torturing Rem other than simply killing her off.
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>"Crusch-sama must feel great pain. Not understanding anything, remembering nothing... So, do not you think she does not want to fight? True? It is not like this?

>As if begging him, Ferris's facial expression as he turned to see Crusch was collapsing. He had completely lost all the attitude he had until a few moments ago, even now his face in profile denoted that he was about to cry although he tried to hide that weakness.

>Despite that, he longed with all his heart that Crusch was not hurt.

>"Ferris, thank you very much for caring about me.

>Before Ferris who made his true feelings known, Crusch smiled gently.

>Crusch placed his hands over Ferris's trembling hands, then looked steadily at Subaru and the others.

>-Crusch-samaa ...

>In the sobbing state in which Ferris was found, it was impossible for him to continue participating in the conversation.

>Crusch who was hugging Ferris turned to where they were and apologized.

Crusch-sama comforts Ferri. Thank you Tappei.
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>>151893728
I just started reading chapter 13 cant find anymore , ¿ anyone kind enough to tell me where ic ould find them or linking me them?.
Thanks in anticipation.
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People seem a tad too paranoid over Tappei fucking over Rem.
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>>151913663
>>151914196
So Rem will be queen of the pirates?
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Fun fact. I found an an auction that's currently up for all of the store special books.

Going for about 5000$. Auction ends tomorrow.
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>>151914331
Pastebin and other mega link are in the thread.
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>>151914331
Ctrl + F Pastebin
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>>151914336
End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says, who's Rem?
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Who gives the better pegging, Crusch or Priscilla?
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>>151914469
Since those without memory still keep their general traits will she fall in love with Subaru all over again?
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>>151914336
>puts Rem for 3 (maybe even more) arc in coma
>never mentions her in his fav lists
>emiliafag
>sadist

How can we not be paranoid?
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>>151914331
Where did you read?
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>>151914532
I mean if it can happen to Kurisu and Okabe, then why can't it happen to Rem and Subaru?
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>>151914484
Crusch

Priscilla pegs me as a sadist.
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>>151914532
Yes after he saves her from dogs, braves danger to save the children, creates a diversion for her and her sister to run, all despite being powerless, and then helps her with her emotional complexes that she doesn't remember
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>>151914336
Eh I won't hold my breath and expect from something postive from a sadist.
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>>151914469
If she had no memories, how would she react to the crying guy at her bedside.
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>>151914532
The worst option is she falls in love with him again, but it's more of a hero worship without being able to see his weakness. At least until she sees how sad he is from being treated like that, and gets to know him better..
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>>151914682
"This man stinks."
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>>151914712
Oh shit arc 2 Rem is back.
Rem becoming shit again is my worst nightmare.
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>>151914712
>>151914682
>Rem wakes up and acts like blue Ram
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>>151914743
Since she doesn't remember her witch cult trauma instead she'd just do what you do when you're usually stuck with a man of terrible pong, shove them out the bus door and make them wear an air freshener
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>>151914682
People seem to have reactions to the ones they've forgotten.
>>151914682
Surprisingly well. If she forgot all about him, that would probably be the best introduction you could hope for. A cute boy crying on her.
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>>151914637
It might be easier the second time around because she would have the general traits of Rem all the way up to arc 3. She might feel something for Subaru the same way Subaru can't help but feel something for Satella.
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>>151914583
If he stoped at chapter 13 its most likely on chicken translation, they are stuck on that chapter.

>>151913663
He wont, sure he is a sadist and the whole Rem's Coma for 3 arcs is a good example of that, but more importantly Tappei is not stupid to outright kill Rem if not at the very end because he would piss off his fans big time.

He is like the type of guy who will make fun of you, mock and tease, but at the end he says "nah just kidding, chill out"
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>>151914833
I really do think Rem has an actual fetish for sleeping men.

>expressed affection for Subaru while observing the lap pillow Emilia gave him

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>“It appears she’s fallen asleep. The Fannel fruit has a strong drowsiness effect, after all.”

>“I’m not even going to ask what you planned to do after making me honest and putting me to sleep…. Well, at least now I see why you kept the game going.”
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>“The fainting…is connected…to mayonaise…”

>“Huh? Yes, I know. Rem will do her best for Subaru-kun. And the dawn…fufu, I look forward to it.”

>She interpreted Subaru’s words as he was fainting in agony, and leaving behind an unusually cute smile, Rem fled the room.

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>I love Subaru-kun’s face when you sleep. You become defenseless like a baby and I notice that your eyelashes are a bit long. I touch your cheeks and you become calm, then I play with your lips and you don’t notice
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>>151915002
>He is like the type of guy who will make fun of you, mock and tease, but at the end he says "nah just kidding, chill out"

This gave me some dokuro-chan vibes
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>>151915019
She really spiked the mayo didn't she.
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>>151914682
"ugh, who's this faggot? And why does he smell like the witch? So suspicious."

Last nail in the coffin of the Rem/Harem route.
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>>151915232
She didn't even make the Mayo. She just hid and waited for him to "escape", as she was ordered to. In a way she wouldn't catch any blame for, except maybe for being "too simple-minded".
>>151915019
>I really do think Rem has an actual fetish for sleeping men.
I think her fetish is more about vulnerability, rather than sleeping. He's just especially unguarded when he's asleep. Remember, she thinks of him as more cute than manly. Him breaking down and crying on her would probably get her panties soaked.
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End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says, "Funny how we meet again, Natsuki Subaru. Don't you think this body is cute? If I'm saying my personal opinion, though, I think I'd like the hair to be longer. There's more to play, fiddle with, be patted when it is... I know it's pathetic, but I do imagine those things sometimes. You can laugh at me for it. I won't mind. Now, I wonder if you've had enough time to reconsider our contract?"
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>>151915253
That requires selective memory loss and for her to not retain some traits from her development. Crusch still can go into leader mode after losing her memory for instance. She would feel how Subaru does towards Satella. Out of place affection and yearning but not knowing why.
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>>151915497
Arc 4 ending makes this one impossible.
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>>151915497

Mi bet is Rem waking up and not remembering Subaru.
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Clown revives Rem for Subaru but he actually summoned Echidna into her body instead.
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What will Rem's reactions be after she wakes up, recovers her memory, and hear Subaru call her "Natsuki Rem?"
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>>151915593
This isn't needed. We know how Arc 4 ends. I've even skimmed over the Chapter titled "Second Coming" where Echidna/Lewes Omega asks a question that's apparently been on their mind for a long time. Kind of makes me wonder if this is the question at the root of her thirst for knowledge.

>Why does love always fade?
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>>151915686
I think the wiki fixed something on another piece of info, apparently Echidna did not enter Lewes Omega, she used Omega's soul as a medium in order to possess the original Lewes Body.
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>>151915686
Clown's love never faded and he had 400 years.
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>>151915766
It will be clown to teach Echidna the meaning of undying love
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>>151915755
"Omega" is what Echidna calls herself now that she's in Lewes's original body, due to merging with her memories and personality or something.
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>>151915632
Since when have they gotten married?
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>>151915941
It means that Subaru is proposing to Rem and he accepts her to be his wife even without her consent.
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>>151915941
They haven't yet, but now that I think of it.

Doesn't that whole "I won't let anyone else have you", "I want you to always be at my side for the rest of my life" kind of talk sound almost like a marriage proposal anyways?
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>>151915941
>Just a prank Rem!
>Ah-- of course, ha, ha funny prank Subaru-kun
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End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says, "I love you. Subaru-kun."
Subaru yells, "Me too! Me too, Rem!" as he takes her in his embrace.
A smile bursts across her face, her whole body trembling in delight, her words choked on her overflowing tears as she speaks: "I, love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. IloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyou. --Subaru-kun.
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>>151916222
I could see her saying something backhanded instead.
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>>151916157
I'm really glad they cut this from the anime, it makes subaru come off as such a prick jesus christ.

>I won't let anyone else have you
>but I love Emilia, so please watch as fuck from the corner
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>>151916290
>You fucked up Subaru-kun! No take backs!
>R-rem, calm down. Where did you even get your flail!?
>Fufufu lets have our wedding night now
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>>151916326
What are you talking about? Is this opposite day? They left that little part in the anime without the "I love you" so it gives the impression of making her sit in the corner. In the original it's clear he'll be fucking both.
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>>151912248
>Is this what it feels like to win?

No, but this what delusion looks like if you thinks he cares about that or you think fanbase is that extreme. Despite her popularity Re:Zero's story was never about Rem to begin with that's why he can write Arcs without her being there.
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>>151916558
>Not being there

Not being active you mean. She's there plenty.
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So whats up with Satella now? we know that she has a split persona but will subaru start liking her in the long run? there where moments during Satella´s appearance in Echidna´s witch party where he starts feeling something towards her but he cannot fully grasp what it is.
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>>151916473
When does he say he won't allow anyone else to have her in the anime?
Still while Rem's fine with being a mistress I'm not sure Emilia would be.
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>>151916618
He already likes her, why the fuck does he do it despite wanting to hate her though? That's the mystery.

What his heart feels for her seems to be incredibly strong. But it contradicts what he truly wants to feel for her. Most guess that Subaru was there prior 400 years ago, and somehow forgot all of it. I don't think reincarnation happened, or else she wouldn't be saying she only loved Subaru and only him.
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>>151916630
>mistress

Nope. Another wife. With a ring and a kid.

They basically have the same bit about Rem always being by his side and such without the explicit romantic element so it boils down to the same issue you had.
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>>151912386
>>151912386

He hasn't done a Q&A in forever and his recent public appearnace in Taiwan last November already said Emilia was his favorite. Having an avatar of her on his twitter profile should tell you that even without him saying anything. There is no point deputing that. He's not neutral in that nor does he have to be.

Doesn't mean he doesn't like Rem, in fact i doubt he hates any of his characters.
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>>151916558
same for Emilia
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End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says, "Hallucinating, are we now, Barusu? Leave my room at once before I put you down, carnal beast," her pink hair still uncombed and disorderly with the sunrise.
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>>151916618
>>151916731
I don't remember Subarus response to Satella requesting he come kill her.


At the very least he is thankful to the Satella personality
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>>151916871
He said that he would save her, while she request for him to come kill her no matter what.
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>>151913435
I just saw some hentai pics with Rem getting fuck by a bunch of guys. You don't understand Otaku or Japanese people in general at all. They don't give a shit about things like that unless it is the main story.
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>>151916731
So Satella knew who subaru was and they shared a very strong relationship in a past prior to Subaru´s arrival at this world?

The plot thickens


>>151916871
She was the one who requested to get killed, he simply took her hand and yelled that he will save her no matter what.
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>>151916759
I don't know, in the anime it really just seemed as toyota asked her to lend him her support, rather than demanding that she stays at his side as an eternal third wheel.
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>>151916860
End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says,You were expecting some cute meido, but it was me Dio!


>>151916922
>>151916978

So it will probably just occur due to circumstances but assuming it's not, how is Subaru going to either convince people it's time to go save/kill the witch of envy?

>oh hey we killed all those archbishops and saved Rem
>btw we need to go unseal the witch of envy
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>>151916978
>So Satella knew who subaru was and they shared a very strong relationship in a past prior to Subaru´s arrival at this world?

It's only speculation anon. But it seems to be leaning in that direction yes.
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>>151917038
The anime did make it seem like that yeah. In reality he said he loved her, and would not let anyone else have her.
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>>151917097
The only way in which he isn't a fucking cultist is that he doesn't think he's one
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>>151917107
Seeing as Subaru does not remember any of this maybe it's more time shenanigans? or assuming RbD is not a rewind but a universe skipper she had a relationship with him in a separate universe?

>>151917179
He is the archbishop or sage or whatever the witches referred to him as of Satella
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End of arc 6, Subaru finally succeeds in waking Rem up, he breaks down in happy tears at her bedside, crying, "you're back! You're back, Rem!"
She looks him in the eye and says, "Yes. This is Subaru-kun's Rem. It has taken time, and the wait has been long, but I knew you would save me, Subaru-kun. I have never stopped believing in you."
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>>151917038
Rem's responses in that scene don't really give that impression. Officially it's romantic though made more ambiguous, but even if you don't pick up on that it's certainly more than just lending support. Anime Rem has a vague pseudo promise that leaves her position in Subaru's romantic life in relation to Emilia unclear. Meanwhile Novel Rem went in knowing she was a third wheel from the beginning and strongarmed herself into the position of a straight up wife.
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>>151916860
She may be a BCC lover, but she's starting to grow on me more than Rem to be honest.
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Anyone know why Gaaf is such a bitch? Why is he scared to go outside?
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>>151917420
We'll learn in a few chapters.
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>>151917317
Being a universe skip wouldn't make any sense because the original Satella would have lost.

Unless the power is originally Subaru's, then that'd make sense. Otherwise it doesn't. Also i think it's more probable he was there 400 year ago, but no parallel universe shit. Most assume he's Flugel.
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>>151916599
2 coma scenes and one appearance that wasn't even her isn't plenty. Her appearance severely reduced especially in comparison to Arc 3 or even Arc 2. That's not even bring up Arc 5 where she only gets one scene. That's just being desperate if you. Arc 6 is when she starting to get more presence, but its not like it is overpowering since a bunch of people with their own agenda is also involved, and not mention the stuff about Shaula and Flugel.

>>151916818
Emilia has too many threads main narrative and more than half things in story happen because of her and her bloodline. You don't really have a storyline without since Subaru only involved any of shit because of her. But the story is told from his perspective. Think FFX with Tidus and Yuna if you have played that game.
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>>151917376
Potatoes continue to grow after they have been harvested

Tomatoes do not

>>151917420
Probably his trial made him watch him mommy get raped and Ram scaring him because Clown said so.
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>>151916618
I don't think Subaru likes in the sense of love, but he does want to help her, because she did in fact him. Some part of that is probably being driven be the strange emotions feels when he sees her.
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>>151917317
>>151917520
If sealed Satella exists out of time it could be

>Subaru gets isekai'd at 19 or older
>ends up in Lugnica 400 years ago
>????
>Satella sealed
>She isekais 17-18 year old Subaru into the future
>huge world retcon, only Satella remembers

Also Flugel theory went into doubt since Arc 6.
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>>151917420
Like everyone else has unresolved issues in their pasts, they tend have a lot of difficulty passing the first trial.
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>>151917547
>but its not like it is overpowering since a bunch of people with their own agenda is also involved, and not mention the stuff about Shaula and Flugel

There's no agenda. Also, from the way you have typos i'm guessing you're that Emilia defender who can't write for shit.

Didn't you say that the amount of shit Emilia did didn't matter because in the end she's more involved in the happenings and shit? That's fairly hypocritical of you. Just like Emilia, Rem aso has a part, she is the only thing keeping Subaru sane, and the fact that he even thought of her when Camilla showed up shows that she holds a very big place in his heart. A few scenes or not, she is still a big part of it.

Plus, like the other anon said, the same can be said for Emilia. The overall plot does involve her more true, but you're completely ignoring other factors that involve Rem too:

>Ram and Rem being saved due to the gospel telling Roswaal to do that, not yet clear why their presence is required for his plan
>Al being angry at the fact both Rem and Ram are alive, despite being ok with the existence of Ram alone, and saying "that thing" is alive
>They can't address the idea of Emilia being jealous properly if she doesn't wake up, since love is a big central theme of the story for many characters

I know it looks like Bias, and in a way it is since most people like her, but it's not like we ignore Emilia, but she so far has done nothing to make us want to acknowledge her, and while she did take a more active role in arc 5, all she did was get capture for half of it, try to do something fail, and then finally helps when she freezes the wives to stop them from killing themselves.
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>>151917547
Emilia was inactive in arc 2, 3, most of arc 4-6. She did nothing that was necessary to progress the story.

> more than half things in story happen because of her and her bloodline

What are you even talking about? Only arc 1 and 3 happened because of her being a half elf, what else? Everything past arc 4 happens because Subaru searches for a way to cure Rem and help other characters.

She will be important later on probably but until now she wasn't.
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>>151917766
He remembers being on earth prior to going there, so she couldn't have skipped him to another point in time, also we don't even know if Lugnica is a parallel world, it could be a distant planet, considering the focus on stars.

Also Satella can't exist outside of time since she's sealed, and if the seal was outside of time that'd allow her to do much more to interfere, plus it's implied she may not remember past loops at all.

Also, the Flugel theory did not go in doubt, did you forget the power of Lust? Also the fact that he could have changed his appearance through magic.
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>>151917866
Emilia at least seems to take on the general combat role in arc 6. According to the guy trying to read ahead anyway.
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>>151917983
Well yeah, which is why i only mentioned arc 5. In arc 6 she seems to be doing slightly better.
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>>151917983
Yeah, she's half their major firepower, with Julius being the other major player and Meili for mabeast.
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>>151917766
My pet theory is something in the vein of, Subaru's in a contract he inherited at birth, probably the covenant between Volcanica and Flugel, his soul is also inherited down the contract, the WoE/Satella's body is alive and sealed at the shrine but her soul is dead and sealed in Subaru, him being isekaied is because it is The Time for her to be unsealed according to The Masterplan.
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>>151917982
Doubt doesn't mean disproven it just means doubt. And the last person to say this never really accounted for why Subaru would do that, how it would be in character, if his Lust authority would even work that way, and why Shaula wouldn't at least know him by his real appearance.
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>>151916420
>*and honeymoon
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>>151917982
He doesn't remember his time in Lugnica 400 years because in this theory she's pulling a younger Subaru into future Lugnica thus wiping out the possibility of him being translated to past Lugnica when he's older. She's not pulling the same Subaru into another point in time essentially.
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>>151918057
Julius has become weaker after his name got eaten so I assume Emilia will handle most of the fighting.
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>>151902807
The one who requested here

Fucking cute
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>>151917982
But what if Flugel is actually Subaru's dad? I mean, he would have the power of Lust since he was always hitting on girls around the city, also he and Subaru look somewhat alike
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>>151917866
>There's no agenda

What the hell are you talking about? Why do you think Anastasia and Julius who haven't even met Rem are going to tower? They own problems they to work out. They don't care about someone they don't know. The tower itself has major historical significance that relates to lore of the world and overarching story. Shaula is more interested in Subaru then anything having to do with Rem.

And throwing labels on to people when you don't even know who they are has nothing to do with conversation. If you need to resort to ad homninens then don't have an argument.

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Didn't you say that the amount of shit Emilia did didn't matter because in the end she's more involved in the happenings and shit? That's fairly hypocritical of you. Just like Emilia, Rem aso has a part, she is the only thing keeping Subaru sane, and the fact that he even thought of her when Camilla showed up shows that she holds a very big place in his heart. A few scenes or not, she is still a big part of it.

Who say I was talking about anything any character did? Don't put words in my mouth. Rem being someone special to Subaru has jackshit to do with Satella, the Witch Cult and the Royal Election. These are things driving the plot which Emilia and Subaru are involved in.

So I don't know what mean by hypocritical.
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>>151918357
He's still a major player in what limited firepower they have. Ram has a very limited battery life, Subaru can only act as long as Betty is around, Meili needs critters. Obviously Rem isn't going to be doing shit.
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>>151918542
I never mentioned any of those characters though, are you ok? The agenda i was talking about was your implication that the people here are trying to push Rem was more important than anything at all, while most here are just pointing out that she's extremely important to Subaru, and also to his mental health.

The label was more like me trying to identify you, since you talk similarly to the anon who makes a bunch of typos and defends Emilia a lot. My bad.

Also, you say i'm putting words your mouth but i'm mostly talking about your perspective on importance of a character to the overall plot. You had JUST talked about how it's on Subaru's perspective, and while yes, there is another major plot going on, the main thing is still Subaru and his involvement in the world. So Rem is just as important.

Also again, you're ignoring the Al, gospel and Emilia jealousy plot points that are related to Rem. Do you know what the gospel said exactly when Roswaal went to save then? Well i don't, and neither do you i'm sure, for all we know, th one he needed may have been Rem, in order to chain start this whole series of events that would lead Subaru to this exact moment. Just like everything else it's speculation but it's a fair one.

Plus, the one about Al, who clearly has something major going on, especially since he also saw Satella in his vision of people he knew in the past, having a very specific beef against something related to both sisters being alive. Why would that be if they're not important to the overall plot? Even Tappei wrote that exploring him would reveal one of the 3 major mysteries of the series, so clearly Rem and Ram have more to do with the big picture than we might think.

We also don't know why the cult targeted the oni village. They do things to terrorize people, but if it's along the lines of Petelgeuse's actions it's in order to accomplish something, so what were they trying to accomplish by attacking and killing all the oni in that village?
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>>151894672
GUTS ARE JUSTICE!!
>>151894925
Arm is gone for good tho.
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>>151918896

Ferri reattached the arm.
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>>151918896
Something int hat picture is not like everything else.
Something doesn't belong.
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>>151917950
>Emilia was inactive in arc 2, 3, most of arc 4-6. She did nothing that was necessary to progress the story.

Except she was? It was only in Arc 3 where her role was limited and towards the middle portion of the arc. Why the hell so hellbent on defending Rem when she not being attacked or anything? That is simply how the story has been written.

>What are you even talking about? Only arc 1 and 3 happened because of her being a half elf, what else?

Yeah which has been like one major driving points of the story. Arc 1 centered around Emilia being targeted for being a candidate in royal election. Subaru summarized internally that events happened in Arc 2 for same reason. The Pete and came after her and caused who thing in Arc 3 to happen because he seeking a vessel for Satella. Arc 4 is dealing with that related her existence because the real reason half-bloods are hated is because Satella was a half.

> Everything past arc 4 happens because Subaru searches for a way to cure Rem and help other characters.

WTF?! Arc 4 has little to do with Rem, did not read the beginning of the arc? Garfiel literally tells Subaru and Emilia issues at the Sanctuary was their fault. Freddie also tells Emilia the Sanctuary was important place to her and partly having to do with her bloodline. Subaru nearly beginning of the arc monologues that both his and Emilia destinies were changed forever here.
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>>151918896
>Arm is gone for good tho.
I was a bit confused by this, since she obviously lost it during the fight, but none of the other things I've seen made mention of her missing an arm, so I assume Ferri either regrew or reattached it. The cut was super clean so if you wipe off the dirt it can't be that bad right?
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>>151917866
>
I know it looks like Bias, and in a way it is since most people like her, but it's not like we ignore Emilia, but she so far has done nothing to make us want to acknowledge her, and while she did take a more active role in arc 5, all she did was get capture for half of it, try to do something fail, and then finally helps when she freezes the wives to stop them from killing themselves.

She's done plenty throughout the story, you won't acknowledge because you have a Rem bais. Thankfully the japanese don't have that problem. Even Rem fans like her, they just liek Rem better.
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>>151917983
She did that in Arc 1, 3, 4 and 5.
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>>151918896
>>151919218
Tappei answered in his ask.fm that Ferris reattached Crusch's arm and no scars were left.
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>>151919132
>Arc 1 centered around Emilia being targeted for being a candidate in royal election.
Nope. Arc 1 centered around picking up Subaru for further clown plots.

Arc 4 is also Clown Plots part 2, Emilia doesn't even factor into them at all, she's supposed to sit back and cry. What she ultimately ends up doing is different, but the whole of Arc 4 is just holding her hostage for further Subaru breaking.
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>>151918896

Still mad how this doujin's cover baited with Ferri, Crusch-sama and Priscilla, but none of them were in it.
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>>151919132
Your point was that tappei can write the story without Rem being active what is true but the same applies to Emilia. She could have sit on a couch in arc 2 and 3 and it wouldn't have changed much. What is the goal of arc 4? Mostly information about the witches, some background info and new characters. This one works without Emilia just like arc a and 3. Arc 5 is a battle arc and Emilia is a big part of it. Don't know much about arc 6 though.
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>>151919232
You're the one acting with bias. I never said i disliked Emilia.

Also, the jap fans complain too, they're just more passive about everything.

What she did so far was, help Subaru, get him out his slump, show her disposition towards the story about how she is an half elf and is hated for it, self esteem issues due to that and her past, show that she is not just a doll and can think for herself, her past was shown, her appearance being equal to Satella's, getting some action here and there, and all of it proving fruitless in the end, showing that she is not one to take shocking events well to the point of completely losing her mind and fainting and etc.

i'm not ignoring her, but overall, Rem also has a lot going for her, shown her bias towards the cult, shown her inferiority complex due to her past and current disposition, shown what triggered her love, shown that is willing to die for Subaru in order to save him, shown that the onis are fairly low in numbers just like elves, shown that the cult targeted them for some reason, shown her involvement with Al which has yet to be explained, shown that her and Emilia both share an extreme love that Subaru feels for them, shown that despite being in a coma Subaru is always there for her and talks to her, shown that Subaru does not display his weak side to anyone but her, shown that Roswaal saved both in order to accomplish his objective, major player to discover a way to combat witch magic since she will most likely be the first one to go through something that may or may not reverse things.

Also can you please greentext correctly? And stop acting biased towards Emilia and interpreting EVERYTHING as hate for her.
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>>151919509
Not him, but to be fair, Emilia is important too, but not overall, but she is needed to free sanctuary, needed to showcase her past which displays a new witch and Petelgeuse's past, and that Subaru can learn to support her and not just devote his entire being to her and threat her like a doll.
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>>151919530
>major player to discover a way to combat witch magic since she will most likely be the first one to go through something that may or may not reverse things.

Um, what is "something"?
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>>151919691
I mean, we don't know what the sage can do in order to try and help, it could be anything.
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>>151919726
Who's the sage? Shaula?

Actually, have they found a concrete solution to the effects of Gluttony in Arc 6? Sorry, I'm not really keeping up with the translations.
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Could you love a girl who tortured and killed brutally with no remorse?
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>>151919860
yes, because she had good reasons to do so
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>>151919814
No they haven't.

In the Echidna IF where Subaru accepts her contract it seems to talks about some possibilities though Apparently one of then is the sage, but she advises against it, we don't know if it's because she knows it wouldn't help much, or because she wanted to keep him away from the tower, the other is going after gluttony and killing him, but in the IF he never found any trace of them so he was still looking, and the third is apparently the fact that dragon's blood can grant miracles, so there's a chance that if whoever wins the election can talk to the dragon and acquire some may be able to reverse the effect on gluttony and lust victims.

Subaru only knows about the tower and the sage so far, and that they MAY be able to help.
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>>151919860
If there was a motive behind it and i can understand said motive, maybe.

I'm the type of person who has a hard time letting go of a grudge, unless it the fault was on me.
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>>151919889

In the loop where she actually killed him it wasn't the best of reasons but she did seem conflicted about some of it in the second trial. Not remorseful but not remorseless.

In the loop where she tortured him she and Ram were given plenty reason to do so because Subaru dug himself deep and actually did some of the things he was suspected of doing. Also worth noting Subaru barely saw or interacted with Rem in this loop because he was a guest.
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>>151918892
>I never mentioned any of those characters though, are you ok?

I did, and then went and told me there is no agenda. You are basically knee jerking just anything you perceive as remotely anti-Rem when it isn't.

>The agenda i was talking about was your implication that the people here are trying to push Rem was more important than anything at all, while most here are just pointing out that she's extremely important to Subaru, and also to his mental health.

Great, but that was my response to a particular post that was doing just that. You went got all uppity with me regardless.

>

Also, you say i'm putting words your mouth but i'm mostly talking about your perspective on importance of a character to the overall plot. You had JUST talked about how it's on Subaru's perspective, and while yes, there is another major plot going on, the main thing is still Subaru and his involvement in the world. So Rem is just as important.

I said, the Rem is important Subaru, but she not important overall story. That's why Re:Zero becomes a fluff piece in the Rem AU and anything about Satella, the Witch Cult and Royal Election is never talked about again. Because the person all things were tied to isn't there and Subaru has no reason to involve himself otherwise.
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>>151920061
>Also again, you're ignoring the Al, gospel and Emilia jealousy plot points that are related to Rem. Do you know what the gospel said exactly when Roswaal went to save then? Well i don't, and neither do you i'm sure, for all we know, th one he needed may have been Rem, in order to chain start this whole series of events that would lead Subaru to this exact moment. Just like everything else it's speculation but it's a fair one.

That the stuff is speculation except the point with AI which was about Ram anyway. That hasn't been focused on in 4 years why the Satella, the Witch Cult or election has been constant focus that continues involves Emilia. If was as important in the overall she would been there from Arc 1 and she would be more involved with that stuff the she is now. Rem's connections to narrative only really from Subaru Roswaal or Ram. There nothing else that makes her special. She is orphan and ordinary maid that fell in love with Protagonist who later returned her feelings who is now in trouble but that is it.
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>>151920107
Emilia is only important because of her circumstances. She actually does less than other characters. You could let her sit in a corner and it wouldn't change much.
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Watch as Rem winds up being an artificial spirit
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>>151919889
>>151919959

Even if the poor sap she tortured and murdered was YOU?
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>>151920318
If I had RbD and could win her trust, still yes.
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>>151918892
>The label was more like me trying to identify you, since you talk similarly to the anon who makes a bunch of typos and defends Emilia a lot. My bad.
It's pretty clear now that it is the same retard.
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>>151920285
How does that work?
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>>151920061
Well i did say there was no agenda, because i'm referring to your point of view on it, not on the characters of the story, if that's what you want to focus on them sure. Also stop trying to act like you're the bigger man and talking about the other being uppity when you try to perpetuate it, i already said i did try to guess if it was you or not based on how you write but i didn't chase it further.

Also the reason if goes Fluff is because there's no reason to pursuit that information. He let go, and let Al (Or at least how AL presents it) he is only trying to survive and make the best of life. There's no reason to think about the election of another country in freaking Kararagi.

>>151920107
Anon, we have no way of discerning that as well. You can't claim she has no importance, when the gospel is there. For all we know Rem is just as important because she gospel was taking her presence into account to inspire Subaru.

True, it's not concrete but don't discount it. Also Emilia is important to the overall plot, but like many have said, she mostly sits in a corner or her actions means jack shit in the end.

She helped Subaru in arc 1, them out of his slump, in arc 3 she sent him away, and while she did fight Sloth at one point the loop was cancelled so it means nothing, and all she did was sit pretty in the last one, the cult being her fault at being there still of course.

Arc 4 has her trying to free Sanctuary, failing miserably, them asking Subaru to support her instead of trying to do everything for her which is important for development, them freeing it and seeing a vision of the future than i'm still waiting on translations in order to tell what happens exactly. But overall that's all she did in it.

5 has her go to the other country to try and find a crystal for Puck, she get captured, is gone for most of it, tries to fight back, helps a bit and them it ends again. And now in arc 6 is following Subaru to help him with his wish to save Rem.
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>>151920533
To finish because the limit was reached. Emilia is a important to the overall plot? Yes. Has she done much on the actual happenings in the story compared to everyone else, or had as much impact? No, not even close.
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>>151920458
It's weird how Rem is so far the only character who is not a(n artificial(? depending on Betelgeuse)) spirit who can smell witch-scent.
Her ability to do this was not inborn, and only started being a thing after her village was destroyed.
The twist will be that Rem actually died, and the Rem we know is a spirit body double (apparently with some tweaking since she can age)
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Is this accurate?
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>>151920581
>Her ability to do this was not inborn, and only started being a thing after her village was destroyed.

How can you possibly know that? She wouldn't know the scent of the witch cultists at a young age because she never saw them before.

Also that makes no fucking sense, because she ages, spirits don't freaking age.
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>>151919286
>Nope. Arc 1 centered around picking up Subaru for further clown plots.

Which involves stealing Emilia only proof of candidacy which is a national treasure. While Roswaal has his own agenda it's only subplot that part of main plot. He isn't the one behind the Witch Cult, the Royal Election or Satella. He's merely another player who part of it. That is why it's resolved in Arc 4.

>Arc 4 is also Clown Plots part 2, Emilia doesn't even factor into them at all, she's supposed to sit back and cry. What she ultimately ends up doing is different, but the whole of Arc 4 is just holding her hostage for further Subaru breaking

Of course she does. You being reductive doesn't change that. Her talking the trials, facing her past and is required to solve the issues in that arc. Emilia being incapable of doing that and Subaru doing everything instead and breaking down turning out like him is what Roswaal wants. But the arc isn't only about just Roswaals plans, but Emilia's past and process of Emilia's growth as proper leader, expanding the lore regarding the Witches and half-bloods. All these things are interwoven into the main narrative.
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>>151920581
It really might just be her horn since mabeast can detect it too.
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>>151920636
Because the narration mentions it in that chapter where Subaru is pretending (?) to be a retard and it's all in Rem's perspective (don't think it's in a section Lemon translated though).
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>>151920748
AskFM has it that oni aren't mabeasts/their horns are different.
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>>151920882
Maybe it's something like, her ability to perceive the smell was born from her hatred for them, she survived and now she knows what it is.

If it's related to her being an oni or not i don't know, but her being a spirit still makes no sense.
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Would you bully a Beako?
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>“Looking down on my Mom, I won’t let anyone do that, not even my Mom.” Burning with a feverish vigor, Rigel finishes his declaration. But suddenly, he’s struck with an awkward situation. What the hell am I saying, looking like this!? Having removed the Oni vest and pants, he stands there in nothing but his underwear.

Soon, Subaru will be able to grow a horn too.
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>>151921158
Hell yeah. Then I'd spoil her rotten.
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>>151919530
>You're the one acting with bias. I never said i disliked Emilia.

Saying she done nothing or being redctive in her in Arc 3 is bias. That fact I can point out the myriad of things she has done. This also goes against how Tappei writes his characters which he always tries balanced role where everyone gets their fair share without anyone dominating.

>What she did so far was, help Subaru, get him out his slump, show her disposition towards the story about how she is an half elf and is hated for it, self esteem issues due to that and her past, show that she is not just a doll and can think for herself, her past was shown, her appearance being equal to Satella's, getting some action here and there, and all of it proving fruitless in the end, showing that she is not one to take shocking events well to the point of completely losing her mind and fainting and etc.

She also fought in several importation battles and held her own. She helped teache him about things regarding Spirit Users and became his main benefactor. She was also the reason why Subaru came to mansion and entered her camp and was the first friend he made when came here. That is al lot or at very least as much as anyone has done and their important.

I'm not saying Rem isn't important, just not overall story at this time. Arc 3 focused too much on her love for Subaru and never had developed connections beyond him which limits her effect on the events in the narrative. That's why the only you can talk about what she will do when she wakes is how much she gonna smooch Subaru and not much else.

My keyboard kind of wonk at the moment so sorry about that. Also I'm not interpreting as hater just specific things that are said. Nor am I being biased against Rem who is my 3rd favorite character, but beyond doing things for Subaru she literally doesn't have anything much else, at least anything that immediately relevant and constant. Maybe she will start caring abut the cult again someday.
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>>151921044
It's still alive.
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>>151921663
Really burns me up.
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>>151921449
>I'm not saying Rem isn't important, just not overall story at this time. Arc 3 focused too much on her love for Subaru and never had developed connections beyond him which limits her effect on the events in the narrative. That's why the only you can talk about what she will do when she wakes is how much she gonna smooch Subaru and not much else

Well yeah, but that's because Tappei doesn't want to explain everything all at once, since that'd remove many of the mysteries.

Also, while she did do some battles most of them she merely held back on the enemy, she didn't participate on the forest eradication for example, Elsa was just barely managing to not get killed before Reinhard delivered the killing blow and handling her after he showed.

The mansion one not so much, Roswaal was the one to set it up to happen. It makes sense that she'd request that her savior be given refuge in there, but in the end it was all part of Roswaal plan. And yes, a lot of people do bits and pieces here and there through the story.

Also i'm not sure i get what you mean by "caring about the cult again". She cares plenty, she just doesn't go out of her way to pursue them since they're dangerous and only cares about protecting those important to her, just like Emilia, who in the WN was not even aware of what the cult was.
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>>151920245
If wasn't for her SUabru would be dead twice before he ever got in the manison.

Her cirmstances are part fo her character like everyone else. She could easily bow out of the election like she does in one loop as shown 2nd trial and nothing would happen to her. But because of the actions she takes towards her own goals causes things like Witch Cult come after her. She doesn't run or deals with things as best she can.

And Emilia hasn't done less than other characters in story. Crusch for has literally appeared in two arcs and has only helped Subaru fight the Whale and one other battle against Roy. Emilia at that had saved Suabru several times, fought Elsa, Pete, and Regulus, taught Subaru about various things including giving the mana bulb, freed the Sanctuary and village and got Roswaal shape up a little so that he could make the deal the Subaru. Other than Rem who she equal you can only name one or two things the others have done.
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>>151921663

Why doesn't Rem just join them?
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>>151922167
Emilia won't let her.
Also she knows she belongs in the cuckqueen corner.
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>>151922085
>we see more of what a primary protagonist character does than a character in another faction, from a different region
>therefore the other character does less

Crusch has her own accomplishments and history. Just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean she hasn't done things to earn the respect and admiration of her followers.
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>As ever, inside the jewel is a naked girl in wakeless sleep
Woah, the original Lewes is naked inside the crystal? I never knew that.
Think Garfield ever had a cheeky wank while admiring her splendid loli form?
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>>151922432
>Wanking to grandma

That's even worse than lewding daughters.
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>>151922432
>fapping to nanna
That's just disgusting. That's almost as gross as sexualizing Beakos.
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>>151922347
If Emilia were acting that way despite their polygamy arrangement Subaru would just fuck Rem behind Emilia's back, making both of them cuckqueans.
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>>151922529
Emilia never agreed to any polygamy arrangement. If she found out Subaru was cheating on her she'd probably dump him.
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>>151922608
Subaru will dump her is she doesn't agree. Also Emilia is the cuck here since Subaru confessed to Rem first
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>>151922608
Actually, Tappei made a small Q&A and if Emilia found her boyfriend was cheating on her, her response was mostly her blaming herself for not being "good enough" and even saying sorry.

He showed the reaction of each candidate i believe. Anastasia wanted a refund her he kept at it, Priscilla didn't mind as long as he didn't stop being her manwhore or ran off on her, Crusch also kinda blamed herself with implied Felix killing the guy later, and i forget Felt.
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>>151922608
The fact that Subaru has made his intentions perfectly clear to Emilia and she hasn't blown it off says otherwise.
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>>151920533
Again, it's not about being the bigger man or anything. I was literally talking about agendas of other characters in the narrative.

>Also the reason if goes Fluff is because there's no reason to pursuit that information. He let go, and let Al (Or at least how AL presents it) he is only trying to survive and make the best of life. There's no reason to think about the election of another country in freaking Kararagi.

Subaru doesn't actually care about any of the stuff I just mentioned with expectation of Satella and that only starts happening in Arc 4.

He says himself in back in Arc 2, he's only at mansion and going through all of that because of Emilia. The Rem AU drops all of that because it is about Rem and none of it concerns her.

Like I said for umteepth time, Rem's important to Subaru but not overall story. She can't be by design unless more connections made beyond being Subaru's love interest. At least going by her old personality she doesn't really care anything beyond Subaru or Ram. Subaru is her reason to die remember?

>
True, it's not concrete but don't discount it. Also Emilia is important to the overall plot, but like many have said, she mostly sits in a corner or her actions means jack shit in the end.

And like I've said that not true otherwise Wouldn't be able to recall the pivotal roles she played things that has had happens because of either her actions or who she is. That make her important default and designs. Otherwise we might as well say Subaru isn't important because h never solves all the issues himself and if the other characters had known about they would taken care everything without him. Afterall it was Reinhard who defeat Elsa not Subaru, it was Roswaal who got rid of dogs not Subaru, it was Wilhelm who killed the Whale not Subaru, Emilia who freed the Sanctuary not Subaru etc.

He also whines and cries more than any character in the story. You can't be reductive about characters like that to suit you point.
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>>151922740
She's only okay with it as long as her "rival" is a potato.
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>>151922740
To be fair she has no memory of Rem, and only has Subaru's word on it.

Plus in the LN i think he hasn't mentioned that he loves Rem, but he does say that he holds immense care for her on par with Emilia.
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>>151922474
>>151922485
You know, he has that command authority shit and all. He might very well be using the clones' lady parts when he gets in the mood for all we know.
What happens deep in the woods stays in the woods.
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>>151922875
>he hasn't mentioned that he loves Rem

that's really weird since it's completely different in the WN. I wonder why tappei changed it and when Subaru is gonna drop this bomb
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>>151922875
I could have sworn he basically said the same thing to Emilia but more offhandedly and in an earlier scene instead. He also told her his plans to begin with that caused that Who's Rem moment and Emilia should now realize the context.
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>>151922963
NEVER
JOLLY COOPERATION
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>>151922706
>Subaru will dump her is she doesn't agree.

That would actually do her good if she ever plans on becoming "king", I mean what does she gain having Toyota as her suitor? He has no name, no political influence, no lands, no special abilities(expect RbD) and no money. In fact, if were not for her abysmal self-esteem I doubt she'd consider him anything more than a man-servant.
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>>151923016
I don't think he finished saying the whole thing about wanting both, she kinda stops him and asks him who is Rem.
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>>151923046
except that the Emilia faction is basically all Subaru follower
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>>151922736
>Crusch also kinda blamed herself with implied Felix killing the guy later

So.. he commits suicide?
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>>151908275
They are actually fairly wealthy. Subaru buys Rem a heart shaped Ruby necklace to their 10th anniversary. They are the weird, quirky, loud but well liked family with the lovey dovey parents and the half blood kids. Weird, but certainly not maladjusted. They're doing fine and they're happy.
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>>151923097
Puck is loyal to EMT, Clown has his own agenda, Ram goes wherever the BCC does, Rem is a potato, Petra is just a maid and I'm not sure about Beako.
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>>151923046
While the last sentence is true before the end of Arc 3 onwards Emilia is in the same boat. Only her emblem is allowing her to compete.
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>>151923191
Rem, Beako and Petra will follow Subaru. Roswaal won't support Emilia without Subaru same for Ram so she has only Puck on her side but even he is suspicious
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>>151923145
The idea is that Felix was not the boyfriend.
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>>151923165
I meant they spent much of their teen years as maladjusted nerds. It's true in the sense that they were their own obstacle to happiness and are weird in their own ways.
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>>151923264
>Roswaal won't support Emilia without Subaru
?
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>>151923165
It was a garnet, not a Ruby.
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>>151923325
Roswaal's only in it because Subaru's RBD is his best bet at bringing back his waifu
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>>151923367
Why was he on Emilia's boat even before Toyota showed up then?
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>>151921449
>she literally doesn't have anything much else, at least anything that immediately relevant and constant.
Easy, Crusch would be roadkill without her. One of the candidates being confetti is probably an immediate and relevant thing to not have happen. You claim you have no bias, and then you do the exact thing you accuse others of.
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>>151923325
Their bet. Are you caught up to the latest a4 chapters? Of course he's citing everything up to the latest arc (6). Earlier he supported Emilia with a different keikaku. Or at least he thought it was for a while, that's where killing the dragon came in. But this changed.
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>>151923418
He's only half right.
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>>151921771
>Well yeah, but that's because Tappei doesn't want to explain everything all at once, since that'd remove many of the mysteries.

Maybe but there no foreshadow for any of at this point. Even she gets all her memories I can she just going back to being a maid and Subaru's love interest who supports because that's all Tappei focused on her with.

>Also, while she did do some battles most of them she merely held back on the enemy, she didn't participate on the forest eradication for example, Elsa was just barely managing to not get killed before Reinhard delivered the killing blow and handling her after he showed.

She still participate and fought Elsa whether she beat her is irrelevant. Winning or losing doesn't change the fact somebody was involved in it. Suabru, Felt and Rom also would count in fighting her for the same reason. Ditto goes for Rem vs Pete she died, but it doesn't change that she went against him.

>The mansion one not so much, Roswaal was the one to set it up to happen. It makes sense that she'd request that her savior be given refuge in there, but in the end it was all part of Roswaal plan. And yes, a lot of people do bits and pieces here and there through the story.

Whether something was part of another person does not absolve the people involved of their actions. The things that happened including Rem's attachment Subaru were all things Roswaal knew about and were part of his plan. That doesn't mean that Rem's actions were not her own, its' the same thing with Emilia and Subaru. Roswaal can manipulate people based on what he will know they will do. Not control them.
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>>151893728
who win the subaru bowl?
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>>151923496


>Also i'm not sure i get what you mean by "caring about the cult again". She cares plenty, she just doesn't go out of her way to pursue them since they're dangerous and only cares about protecting those important to her, just like Emilia, who in the WN was not even aware of what the cult was.

Because she if cared instead something she just moved pasted then the middle portion of arc and "From Zero". Even the epilogue despite there being two Archbishops she no overcoming by any desire of revenge, she is more worried about Subaru. Honestly her side story with Betty is probably most refreshing thing I read about her since Arc 3, because for once it's not 80% about Subaru. There needs to be more of that.
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>>151922736

Ferri is so loyal that if he ever cheated on Crusch-sama, he would commit suicide. I'm so proud of him...
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>>151923517
Both girls by the Flugel tree. Only permadeath will change this. Every post after is memes.
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>>151923517
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>>151922752
>Rem's important to Subaru but not overall story. She can't be by design unless more connections made beyond being Subaru's love interest.
She has this with the set up revolving around Al. How she reacts to Roswaal/How Ram reacts to having memories again will be a major part in resolving Roswaal and Ram's place within the story. They are currently going through an arc with the express mission of saving Rem, with other people being secondary to that primary goal.

>You can't be reductive about characters like that to suit you point.
Why? Are only you allowed to do it?
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>>151923517
Subaru bowl is big and doesn't discriminate
Be a silver-haired half elf and/or help him with his deep-seated emotional issues and he'll throw you in the waifu pot
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>>151923517
EMT
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>>151923517
Satella has already won, but we just don't know it.
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>>151923589
There's only room for two. Hopefully.
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>>151922875
>>151922963
Does it matter if tells anyone or not? As long as he feels that way the result is the same. Emilia already figured he loved Rem anyway from his actions, she just asked him confirm it in the WN.
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>>151923528
The problem is that she had no chance to make other friends besides Subaru. Ar 2 was about winning her trust and in arc 3 she was only with Subaru for the whole time except for the interludes where opened up to Crush.
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>>151923418
"Muh Gospel"

Literally everything the Clown does up until late arc4 he does because "Muh Gospel."
And his book was leading him to Subaru, and now that he knows Mazda's secret, and knows his book isn't the only path to his goals, he aims to use Daihatsu's RbD.
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>>151923685
Didn't he also already tell her which started the "who is Rem" shitstorm?
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>>151923046
He's her friend one thing and it his choice to be there. Subaru's already become quite distinguished so she loses nothing for him being there.

I think also should be noted that Emilia never considered or wanted Subaru to be come her servant and follower. That was all him.
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>>151923685
I think it does matter. He keeps it secret from Emilia what is basically lying to her and is also unfair towards Rem since he loves them both but only mentioned Emilia yet
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>>151923710
She also only had a short time to begin growing out of sasuga nee-sama and that bleeds into her martyrdom for Subaru and Ram. Let's hope Subaru reminds her after she wakes up that her life isn't something to cheaply throw away.
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>>151923517
(you)
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>>151923856
Dotted line
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>>151923517
I know which route I'll make him take.
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>>151923854
When Rem learns that Subaru went through hell to save her she will probably value her own life more than before
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>>151835247
Subaru practices in front of a mirror so he can force a smile in front of Emilia.
Who he only ever visits when he needs an injury healed.

He also kills himself just to tell Petra the day's weather.
And it's heavily implied that Satella is falling out of love with him.

Echidna route's endgame is arbitrary, unnecessary perma-death.
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>>151923903
>Not taking Ram just to cuck Roschi
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>>151923264
>Rem
Roswaal's still her master so i don't know about that.

>Beako
She is his spirit contractor so of course she will. their contract is for life.

>Petra
That's maybe. She's also Emilia's friend

>Puck on her side but even he is suspicious
He is suspicious in some respects but his loyalty isn't.

There also the villagers and half-bloods she won over so Emilia would still have a base without Subaru. It will just be harder for to win because of public opinion.
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>>151923804
I never having him as a friend be bad for her. However being her suitor(read, her husband) is a different story. Plus were she not the spitting image of Lugnica's equivalent of Satan she'd have half of the nobles in the kingdom lining up to ask her hand in marriage.
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>>151918896
Something's wrong about Emilia's ears.
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>>151924069
>Plus were she not the spitting image of Lugnica's equivalent of Satan she'd have half of the nobles in the kingdom lining up to ask her hand in marriage.
Not really, at least until the selection ends, they simply aren't allowed.
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>>151923903
>need a heartfelt kiss or die
>doesn't kiss the friend who has a crush on him and who he flirts with daily
>doesn't even try for Emilia
>goes for some stuck-up candidate from another faction

The VN premise doesn't really help making the crack ships plausible.
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>>151924153
I want Rem to be the 'villain' of the game and ruin all your other routes with surprise chu chu
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>>151924028
You really question who Rem would follow between Subaru and Roswaal?

Petra might stay but she's useless anyway.
The villagers? Subaru won them over not Emilia.
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>>151924141
I meant even before the selection started, if Priscilla married her way into nobility just through her looks, so could Emilia.
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>>151924028
After arc 3 (just before the bishops attack) Rem's admiration went through the roof because he went above and beyond with what she was expecting of him in the span of a month from her perspective. Of course now she's coma'd so it's hard to day. But had she been around for arc 4 it would have been a test of loyalty. Subaru and Rem on one side Ram and Roswaal on the other.
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>>151923422
I'm not talking about minuate actions. Everyone has that. I'm talking about the general overarching nattive which has either Satela, the Witch Cult and Royal Election. Every character in the story is at leats involved in one of theses plot things on some level, but no character other than Emilia and Subaru have a stake in all 3. They are ones who tie everything together. Rem like Crusch can't do this because their are only involved one of these plot points. They only get pull in through other characters.
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>>151924231
Roswaal is on Subaru's side anyway. He has no chance of securing Emilia the throne without meme cheating and he needs Subaru's power for his goal, of which Emilia is only a tangential part of any possible plan. Plus he hates Emilia and thinks she's an idiot
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Is this the novel or the web novel?
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>>151924334
>she literally doesn't have anything much else, at least anything that immediately relevant and constant.
>Oh except for the stuff she actually does. I know I said she literally doesn't do anything relevant, but I didn't mean things she actually does, she still does those, but please ignore them like I do so my shitting on her makes sense while I claim I'm am unbiased.
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>>151924334
What has Emilia to do with Satella narrative wise? It's all our speculations that they either the same or some shit. Satella only shows interest in Subaru
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>>151924402
The translation is for the Web novel. Since it's the furthest away.
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>>151924562

Ah, I've been following translationchicken's translation of the web novel. Do you know who's translating this one? Or is it just an anon?
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>>151924644
Some anon, who i think may be a robot since he manages to release a chapter once per day.
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>>151924334
Afaik the witch cult has not much to do with Emilia. She was raised by some and Betelgeuse tried to make a vessel out of her but we're past that point. The rest of the cult doesn't care for Emilia. Rem has as much to do with the cult as Emilia.
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>>151923517
Both as of now.

>>151923528
That's what hoping changes when she wakes up. There are a lot people in the faction now.

>>151923578
I agree there is something there but how often is that brought up? She has only met AI once she never though about his strange reaction ever since then. Even then we don't know if it will just be another small subplot that doesn't have to do with his purpose.

>Why? Are only you allowed to do it?

I'm not being reductive I have never claimed that Rem never did anything or she was useless. She was one responsible for helping Subaru get back on his feet and she one of Roswaal two loyal guards. But this story isn't about Rem the maid, so those things only matter to characterization her character. I'm not saying it to be reductive and if that how your interpreting than I apologize.
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>>151924751
What were they fucking around with in arc 5? I've actually always thought it was weird they all showed up, any idea why they all did?
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Well, I still don't know Chinese, but I think I just got a description of Rem's horn throbbing inside of her when she turns to smile at Subaru. All of the descriptions make her sound ridiculously horny.
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>>151924820
Muh gospel (electric boogaloo)
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>>151924683

Holy crap that's a lot! Is there any way to read the previous chapters?
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>>151924820
Their Gospels all told them to go fetch shit there. Regulus's told him he'd be able to fill one of his vacant wife slots.
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>>151924868
>Her horn making her sound horny

I'm almost sure it's on purpose.
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>>151924796
Al is literally stated to hold the keys to one of the three greatest mysteries in the series and he has beef with the maids and you think its nothing? A minor irrelevant subplot?

>But this story isn't about Rem the maid
Arc 2 is about her, Arc 6 is about her. She's a third of the important love triangle that drives Subaru forward, she can inexplicably detect the witch scent when only characters tied to the witch have been able to do so, she is potentially supposed to be dead and has some ties to a mystery barely even revealed, her waking up is supposed to impend a disaster and you think she's important only as someone who cleans a house well.

> I'm not saying it to be reductive and if that how your interpreting than I apologize.
Given the above, in what way exactly am I supposed to take your dumb shittery?
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>>151923743
IIRC, I didn't he told her at the end of Arc 3. He just mentioned her name then she said that.

>>151923823
He is lying though, he just hasn't had a change to say anything about it. It seems like Emilia doesn't say anything directly about it in the LN for him too, she ask what Rem was like. Maybe because she figures it is a touchy subject and trust Subaru's intentions. It may come up again later too.
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>>151924968
Ctrl + F pastebin

>>151924976
I wonder if the Gospels they have were bullshitting them, or it was true but it didn't tell him he could fail miserably.
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>>151925024
>or it was true but it didn't tell him he could fail miserably.
I mean, he did find his ultimate waifu, so pure she doesn't know what a virgin is.

I assume Sirius found Pete, more or less.

The gluttonies got fed and Capella got to fuck people over, so I guess they mostly got what they wanted.
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Don't think i saw this one posted here before.
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Why didn't puck save Emilia and the rest of the mansion's inhabitants in the "timelines" where Mitsubishi failed to arrive with help in time?
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>>151925078
>Lust got to fuck people over

Is that literally what she wants, that can't just it right? Or is she literally an asshole sadist who wants to fuck people over for fun?
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>>151925180
He can't really go beastmode unless Emilia is dead (Or disabled I guess). 'Muh contracts'

Plus he really actually doesn't care.
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>>151925024

Ah, thank you. So the ones translationchicken posts on their website are 'more polished' than these ones?
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>>151925205
I don't know much about her so I didn't know what to say. I do know she's a crazy bitch and the author says of the archbishops her personality is the worst.
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>>151925180
Either they attacked by surprise and during the time Puck was inactive, and even them there's a lot of bullshit with his contract i think.

>>151925215
I think he cares, he curses the fact he can't save Emilia due to limitations in his contract.
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>>151924231
It's only a possiblity.


>The villagers? Subaru won them over not Emilia.

No it was Emilia who did, this part of whole point of her taking the trials. It was help her built her base the villages saw what she did. She also direct their escaped from the Great Rabbit at the end. The LN even pushes this further by bridging the gap between her and them early in the story.

Subau are gets nothing from the villagers backing him. He's not the one who needs their support.

>>151924231
Yeah, which why I'm not so sure. Roswaal look after for nearly half a decade. That's not something to bush aside easily.
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>>151925282
He cares about Emilia, but not about anything else.
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>>151925024
>I wonder if the Gospels they have were bullshitting them, or it was true but it didn't tell him he could fail miserably.
I think the Gospels follow a higher plan and direct the Bishops towards that purpose, but does it by using their desires as bait. Despite them all having very different interests and desires, the Gospel was able to lead them in a simultaneous assault on the same location.
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>>151925302
Ram is hardly as obnoxious as cancer hamster.
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>>151925205
Her demand when the archbishops are holding the city hostage is literally "bring me 20 male/female couples", so honestly, she probably is just literally that.
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>>151925180
In the WN he can't fight the witch cult nor can he go super big while Emilia is breathing. In the LN it looks like it was changed so he can fight the Witch Cult while he's a little kitty. It'll be interesting to see what Tappei will reveal in place of that info in the LN version of arc 4.
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>>151925443
Like literal couples, or just pairs of man and woman?

Did she want a massive orgy i wonder.
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>>151925205
I guess some women want to watch the world fuck.
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I wonder who was chosen to be king in the Natsuki Rem AU.
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>>151925556
Oh, that'd actually be interesting to know. But since Satella didn't give a single fuck about Subaru in it, i don't think we can take any events in them for other things aside from knowing more about Subaru and Rem's way of thinking.
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>>151925556
My money is on Felt. Even in the MU she might just snatch the throne just as Emilia looks like she'll win.
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>>151925521
From what I've heard, she likes melting people together into monsters.
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>>151921158

I'd rather bully a Felt
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>>151925626
That's kind of like an orgy I guess.
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>>151925521
From what I remember I think it was literal couples, would have to double check to be 100% sure though
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>>151925626
>Melting couples together for the fuck of it
>Probably under some pretentious notion of uniting couples together

I like romance so she sounds like the sort of bitch i'd want dead and fast.

>Rem wakes up and later they fight her, and one of the deaths is Subaru and Rem melting together as some monstrosity, possibly with with Emilia too
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>>151924408
I don't you understand my point at all and your acting as if it is an atatck on Rem.

Alright tell me what she has do with Satella, the Witch Cult and Royal Election that has been consistent in all 6 arcs so far. What's her personal stake in these because outside Witch Cult burning her hometown she nothing to do with others beyond providing in help. That wold be like saying Mimi is important because was part of Pete attack squad.

>>151924547
>>151924751

>Looks exact like Satella
>Cult has come after her twice because of that
>Called the Witch's Daughter
>Grew up around of the cult members
>Has huge amount of mana
>Echidna dislike of her which is heavily implied to have something to do with her bloodline
>Pandora wants something from her

Out of everyone we know so far she had most do with Satella and Cult as they have all been focal points in the story. Not just speculation.
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>>151925608
There is a lot of stuff that could have gone down differently.
Did Emilia die?
Was Crusch able to take down the whale?
Did Betty die?
What was the next step in Betelgeuse's plan, did he manage to pull it off?
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>>151924301
Priscilla just RNGs through everything.
Not purely looks.
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>>151925958
They might have just missed the whale without Subaru. It seems to be elusive and only occasionally shows up for longer periods of time.
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>>151925716

>bullying the king

You going to get Reinharded
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>>151925780
>That wold be like saying Mimi is important because was part of Pete attack squad.
Actually by all the logic you present on Emilia Mimi is the most important character, she was responsible for separating Emilia from Ram and leading to the entire Felt incident.

As for what you have arbitrarily decided as the three things tied to the plot.
Satella - Nothing really, neither does Emilia. Satella is a complete mystery outside of her love of Subaru. Due to her choice of names for Subaru Rem has a more concrete connection to Satella than Emilia does, who simply superficially resembles her and even the witch cultists say she isn't important, just the body.

Witch Cult - Destroyed her hometown for unknown reasons, she has a vendetta against them and current plots involving the witch cult are primarily focused on tracking them down or canceling their actions for Rem's sake, at least from Subaru's perspective.

Royal Selection - Nothing. This is also nearly irrelevant. Its served as a vehicle for getting certain characters together and little else, its a far ways off from being complete and you claiming this is anything to do with the 'main plot' is almost laughable.

Subaru is the MC, how he handles things is the main plot. His desires and ties to Satella are what is relevant. Rem plays a huge role in shaping him and his actions, as does Emilia. How he handles those two girls as well as Satella is likely to be the climax of the story. But again, you seem to think Rem is some side character maid and doesn't matter, might as well just be blue Ram I guess. Oh wait, you don't talk down about her, you aren't biased right? She's just some side character though and who cares what impact she has on Subaru, shit's not important right?
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>>151925780
>Looks exact like Satella

This one was unimportant for now except for being a reason why Emilia gets discriminated, nothing more

>>Cult has come after her twice because of that

That was Betelgeuse cause he wanted a vessel (a half elf) for Satella. We're past that point.

>>Called the Witch's Daughter

that's new

>Grew up around of the cult members

I said this before but they don't show any interest in her, Rem has a past with the witch's cult as well

>Has huge amount of mana

What has this to do with anything?

>Echidna dislike of her which is heavily implied to have something to do with her bloodline

Echidna dislikes Satella and Emilia looks just like her. She's just being racist.

>Pandora wants something from her

That's new.
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>>151919530
>shown her involvement with Al which has yet to be explained,
Al lost his arm to Ram, when she went berserk fighting which cultists. Because Al is (or was) a witch cultist.

>>151919814
>Who's the sage?
Hasn't been stated, but not Shaula.
Might not have been one since Flugel.

Though after the tea party, one of the witches mentioned that Subaru is the/a candidate to become the next sage.

>>151919814
>Actually, have they found a concrete solution to the effects of Gluttony in Arc 6?
They haven't, but the Echidna what if said that:
• killing the relevant Gluttony bishop, OR
• soliciting help from the sage, OR
• acquiring Volcanica's blood
should be able to fix her.
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>>151925020
>
Al is literally stated to hold the keys to one of the three greatest mysteries in the series and he has beef with the maids and you think its nothing? A minor irrelevant subplot?

We don't even know what AI has to do with anything this point. His story has been more than just her which Priscilla will be more than her in. Al, we know about him is that he has been summoned like Subaru and has strange powers like him. Calling Rem a key to his mystery is a bit of a stretch when for all we know Ram or Rem just be used to confirmed something through whatever small history they may have had. I'm all I'm saying it's too vague at moment to say how much it will amount to.

>>151925020
>Arc 2 is about her
Arc is both of the twins and serves as an introduction to the story. Tappei never makes about arcs about one person anyway.

>Arc 6 is about her

That arc isn't about her. She one of subplots in it, but like with every arc so far, it's always about more than one person. That's why Julius and Anna are with them or why their are meeting Shaula and running through a tower full of puzzles.

>Given the above, in what way exactly am I supposed to take your dumb shittery?

Gonna take that back then. You're just pulling knee jerk reactions against whoever interprets anything that isn't a glow statement about Rem as something against her. That fact you think two arcs about when those arcs dealt with a bunch of this not just her speaks enough about your hostile fanboyism.
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>>151926365
>Al lost his arm to Ram, when she went berserk fighting which cultists. Because Al is (or was) a witch cultist.
Not possible. Al has been in the world 18 years and lost his arm soon after arriving. Rem and Ram were 17 when he said that.
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>>151926248
>>Has huge amount of mana
>What has this to do with anything?
Her mana pool is above Roswaal's, it may be demi-god tier for all we know.
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>>151925023
isn't lying
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>>151926365
What if the blood just cures her coma but nobody would still be able to remember her?
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Why was young willhelm such a shitty character? Literally "pssst..nothin' personal kid" personified.
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>>151924991
Of course it's on purpose. Her horn sensitivity is even mentioned in her alarm clock app. If you touch it, you'll have to take responsibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPniJgxdebA
In any case, it's generally very clear that Rem wants to do babymaking with him.
>>151926365
>Al lost his arm to Ram, when she went berserk fighting which cultists. Because Al is (or was) a witch cultist.
Here's the problem with that. I read the story in which he meets Ram and starts hitting on her. The one where he addresses her by name before leaving, even though Ram never introduced herself. He's not exactly polite with her, since he is kind of trying to pick her up, but there's no surprise, anger, or disgust. It's quite a different reaction to the one he has when he realizes Rem isn't Ram.
>>151926426
>Her mana pool is above Roswaal's, it may be demi-god tier for all we know.
The Q&A mana list was unranked. It may be above or below Roswaal's. It's really not clear, and Tappei said he didn't feel like ordering them.
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>>151926415
It's not like he wouldn't have a reason to lie about the timing.
Link me to the bit with Al's background? It's been a while since I've read it.
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>>151926493
I'm not sure since i didn't read EX2, but i believe he was pressured into being a knight due to the fact he had nothing else and was the only thing he was good at, he falls for Theresia and when he finally finds out she is in fact the sword saint, he feels like she was just watching him train in vain like "ha, as if you'd be on my level in any way", and looking down on him, probably over valuing honor. He didn't want to take the sword away from her because she was just a woman though, during their talks she tells him that she was never interested in swords, and feels they serve only to hurt others and put those she cares about at risk, so he wanted to make her not need to wield it again.

He trains for 3 years and on her commemoration for ending the war challenges her and overpowers her from training and willpower alone.

I will say, not saying "i love you" is a little weird of him, but i think the idea is that he was just really shy about admiring his own feelings.
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>>151926399
>She one of subplots in it
Right, subplot. She's not literally they entire reason they are going in the first place. Just a subplot which they'll casually solve while doing whatever the actual plot of the arc is and it won't be important or come with much fanfare.

The goal of Arc 1 is saving Emilia from Elsa

The goal of Arc 2 is stopping the attack on the mansion

The goal of Arc 3 is saving Emilia

The goal of Arc 4 is freeing Sanctuary

The goal of Arc 5 is stopping the Witch Cult siege

The goal of Arc 6 is saving Rem

You claiming the main goal of an arc 6 is a 'subplot' is asinine and you are a hypocritical piece of shit. Getting Russell a cellphone is a subplot, saving Emilia is not.
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>>151926625
Rem REALLY has a thing for sleeping faces.
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>>151926636
Why would he lie though? He doesn't know Subaru has any relation to the maids, he doesn't even know Rem is alive. 'Ha, I said I lost my arm 18 years ago in an unspecified incident, but I actually lost it 10 years ago in an unspecified incident, I am a clever god'
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>>151926636
He tried to hit on her in one of the extra booklets, so that can't be right. He also didn't mind thinking Rem was Ram, he only got mad once he found out she had a sister and both were alive.
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>>151926659
Arc 3 was saving everyone in the village plus Emilia really.

Also at half point stopping Rem from killing herself to protect him.
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Guys I'm scared

I don't think it's possible for Rem to get any cuter
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>>151926876
The primary goal is saving Emilia. The given plots and solutions tend to have a lot of minor aspects to them, but that's the main goal. Obviously Freeing Sanctuary also includes keeping everyone alive and also fucking over the clown.
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>>151926903
You are wrong. The level of cute can always increase.
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>>151926903
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>>151926625
>The Emilia app will never be translated.
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>>151927145
It is? Literally to the side on the suggestions bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBE7hHQ6V1s&t=4s
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>>151927157
I need the .apk now.
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>[Roswaal: About 10 years ago, the last village burned down, Ram was the last survivor…..sorry, including Rem, the survivors were the two sisters.]

Yep, they're fucked.
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>>151927340
There could still be scattered onis around. But they are surely near extinction.
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>Subaru: I wonder if we should ask Rem to be the godmother
>Emilia: Yea- wait who was Rem again?
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>>151925556
I guess Crusch? Unlike the MU she didn't involved with cult because of Subaru so no memory loss.

>>151926242
We definitely not using the same logic nor randomly trying things to story. These are thing that should be question to begin with because they either been stated or things you should easily connect together. There no need for mental gymnastics and genius level IQ to see this. Subaru is the MC because the is POV character but none of the stuff with Cult, Satella and elections happens unless Emilia is there. Otherwise he just lives a normal life with nobody caring.

>>151926248

>This one was unimportant for now except for being a reason why Emilia gets discriminated, nothing more

WTF?! Do realize why Emilia is discriminated against in the first palce? Did forget what Satella did which led to her being isolated? That one of biggest focal points throughout the story. It didn't just show up now nor is that just discriminate against her. Who would even write like that?

>That was Betelgeuse cause he wanted a vessel (a half elf) for Satella. We're past that point.

So? the point was that he needed Emilia for the because he believe there was connection between them. If that wasn't important he could have chosen any random person. I shouldn't explain the obvious here.

>I said this before but they don't show any interest in her, Rem has a past with the witch's cult as well

Pete was who helped raise her a long with Fortuna so I have you talking about. You're attempt trying forcibly divorce isn't working.

>Echidna dislikes Satella and Emilia looks just like her. She's just being racist.

....So you telling me the Witch of Greed, the one who personality knew Satella dislikes her out of some random racism? Are for real?

This most intellectual dishonest post I've read on this so far.

>That's new.

Even if is to you that literally know different from other points.
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>>151927453
>but none of the stuff with Cult,
Emilia was at Rem and Ram's village? That's new.

>Satella
Only deals with Subaru, Emilia has nothing to do with her. Emilia was barely present in Arcs 2, 3 and 4 until the final loop and Satella did plenty. Satella has never mentioned Emilia and only addresses Subaru, Satella doesn't run or direct the cult either so she is involved in no plans to prepare a vessel for herself.

>and elections happens unless Emilia is there.
Only true thing you've said, if you ignore that there are 4 other candidates besides Emilia and she could die at this point and it wouldn't affect the selection beyond one of the players dropping out.

>Otherwise he just lives a normal life with nobody caring.
Clown cares and won't let him waste his ability, its why he's involved in the first place. Satella also won't leave him alone whether he's using RbD or not.
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>>151927370
For the sake of the Oni as a species, Rigel should cuck his father and start pumping Rem full of oni 3/4 breeds with his shota cock ASAP.
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>>151927453
>Subaru is the MC because the is POV character but none of the stuff with Cult, Satella and elections happens unless Emilia is there. Otherwise he just lives a normal life with nobody caring.
Your new claim is now that Subaru isn't relevant to the plot. How fucking stupid and desperate are you?
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>>151927651
wtf is wrong with you?
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>Subaru’s thoughts connected from Julius’ lecture and Roswaal’s words. Every night, he would see Ram go to where Roswaal was with excitement. To be honest, Subaru looked away from the vividness of the suspicious relationship between the master and the maid.
>Thinking about it again after understanding the circumstances, perhaps it was that sort of thing.

She's pure I tell you, puuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
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>>151926659
>The goal of Arc 1 is saving Emilia from Elsa

Well that and getting the emblem back. Even if Emilia is saved she's screwed with out it.

>The goal of Arc 3 is saving Emilia

Well not just her, but the villagers. I'd Arc 3 introduction of Witch Cult and stopping attack on Roswaal's land. Saving Emilia is a big part of sure.

>The goal of Arc 6 is saving Rem

>You claiming the main goal of an arc 6 is a 'subplot' is asinine and you are a hypocritical piece of shit. Getting Russell a cellphone is a subplot, saving Emilia is not.

Except weren't really about saving Emilia that was Subaru's personal goal. There other goals in the Arc such as Emilia's and Felt that were just as important. Suabru also wanted to save Rom and Felt so he wasn't just doing for her.

Arc 6 is he same way. Like I said it's just one of goals in that Arc, that's why it's just Rem and Subaru in there.
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>>151927728
>Even though he cleared up the misunderstanding he had for over a year, it wasn’t worth correcting himself.
>Roswaal’s relatives were explosive with shadiness with how they have tried to meet with the witch Echidna for generations and generations. It was hard to forget about how Roswaal himself was remarkably attached to Echidna.
>He understood that he wasn’t fooling around with Ram, and on the contrary, he knew how he was attached.
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>>151927728
A pure wide gap in her vag, yes.
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>>151927708
First week here?
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>>151927781
I wonder if Roswaal uses some kind of magic to make Ram look like Echidna when they fuck
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>>151927755
Do I have to start busting out the specific lines where Subaru doesn't give a flying fuck about any other people in trouble besides Rem? Why is Subaru going when he could send better people? Because he personally wants to be the one to save Rem, he wants to be the first person she sees when waking. It is his only concern besides not getting other people he likes killed.
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>>151927651
if it wasn't for the fact that Ram is dead in that timeline, I would prefer Aunt X Nephew /ss/.

But I mean...i guess Mom X Son would be okay. ish.

I mean I'm sure Suberu fucked his mom every now and then for stress relief
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>>151927822
What if the fact that she is sassy and smug queen, because Roswaal taught her to act like that to Emulate Echidna?
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How on earth did the main heroin of this story get overshadowed so hard that her romantic competition had to get coma'd out?
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>>151927935
Even if she were alive I'm sure she'd still be BCC-only.
She'd give him footjobs at most.
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>>151928037
Clearly, the main heroin didn't make him trip the fuck out hard enough.
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>>151927948
>Echidna is normally sassy and smug
Echidna is a cold unfeeling robot who only pretended to be smug and sassy to get Honda to like her.
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>>151928099
What if she did the same to Roswaal?
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>A model of the wheelchair had already existed in this world, but it had quite the amount of work put into the remodeling; it had a caster like front wheel that wouldn’t be a hindrance when changing directions, along with a scaffold and a seat. Of course, a seat belt and a cushion to protect her head were implemented as well.
The Remmobile is go, she is now Fast Wheels Potato
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>>151927632
>Emilia was at Rem and Ram's village? That's new

I never said anything regarding those two. All we know that cult burned their village down, the twins don't know anyone from the group and the cult never comes after them even when meet up again. that all in the story


Only deals with Subaru, Emilia has nothing to do with her. Emilia was barely present in Arcs 2, 3 and 4 until the final loop and Satella did plenty. Satella has never mentioned Emilia and only addresses Subaru, Satella doesn't run or direct the cult either so she is involved in no plans to prepare a vessel for herself.

She plenty present in Arc 2 and 4 and present enough in Arc 3. Satella doesn't have mention Emilia to be connected to her, she barely talks to Subaru as it, but he still connected to her. The story even has some people flat calling her the Witch. I'm not gonna entertain what you should know already. These things aren't the story just because nor will change the fact Rem has nothing to do with because she literally does not.

>
Only true thing you've said, if you ignore that there are 4 other candidates besides Emilia and she could die at this point and it wouldn't affect the selection beyond one of the players dropping out.

None of the other candidates have any personal involvement with the Satella or the Witch Cult. None of them look like Satella, know cultists or ostracized because of it.

If Subaru were to get involved with them instead it would be about a different story. Just lika Rem AU.

>Clown cares and won't let him waste his ability, its why he's involved in the first place. Satella also won't leave him alone whether he's using RbD or not.

Emilia would have met regardless of Clown's plans. That's what allow him to formulate his plans the first place.

>>151927688
I don't know how got anything like out of my post. I guess you don't understand how literature works and just railing against me anyway.
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>>151928428
>The story even has some people flat calling her the Witch.
And they're a bunch of racist pricks. Do you think she's a devil because eyebrows man calls her one? If you're taking Roswaal's word as fact then she is in fact stupid, useless and incapable of anything.
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You know, we have this discussion on Emilia and Rem's importance to the story almost every single thread, can we not?

Everyone has their own importance, Subaru loves both, Otto is a bro, Ram is smug, Roswaal be gospelwing, and the world flat, maybe, probably.

There's no reason to repeat this shit every single goddamn time.
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>>151927862
>Do I have to start busting out the specific lines where Subaru doesn't give a flying fuck about any other people in trouble besides Rem

And do I have keep telling why this doesn't matter? If the entire arc was just about curing Rem, Tappei wouldn't need have go an extremely plot location with several characters who their reasons to go there. The story is more than about how much Subaru loves his waifu, that's why a world exists around him. What Subaru personally does not null the other important aspects of plot that also concern him.
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>>151928428
>I don't know how got anything like out of my post. I guess you don't understand how literature works and just railing against me anyway.
Your claim is that nothing, nothing happens without Emilia and that Subaru is the MC by incident, you are claiming that Subaru is not relevant to the plot and that nothing is revolving around him when everything involving Satella and the Sage solely does so and Emilia is not involved in the slightest.

Funny that you claim to know how literature works while saying Rem does nothing, has no ties to any plot and is just a side character. You're even willing to claim an arc devoted to her condition isn't about her condition at all and that fixing her is incidental to what exactly? If fixing Rem isn't the plot of arc 6 what exactly do you think is? Going on a wacky trip with Emilia-tan? The rousing adventures of Julius and Anastasia-chidna? Meili's fun mabeast friend-making adventure?
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>>151928037
She not really overshadowed and MC is still chasing her. It's just that another girl has been added to his heart.
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>>151928689
>What Subaru personally does not null the other important aspects of plot that also concern him.
And yet you just said what the MC does doesn't fucking matter.
>And do I have keep telling why this doesn't matter?
So basically, Subaru's reasoning for going is 100% irrelevant according to you. He's being drug along with no important goals in mind, those goals don't matter and its all incidental. Fuck you retard
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>>151928611
It's mostly the one anon that insists on arguing it every time it comes up with his garbage grammar filled posts.
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>>151928757
I think he was talking about fanbase and popularity
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>>151928689
>If the entire arc was just about curing Rem, Tappei wouldn't need have go an extremely plot location with several characters who their reasons to go there
This is the main goal of the arc, fix Rem. Exactly 1 character is there for reasons other than fixing Rem, and that's Julius who is interested in curing the gluttony shit in general, which also includes Rem. Betty is tagging along because she's contracted, Emilia is going to fix Rem, Ram is going to fix Rem, Echidna is being brought to guide them to where they need to go and has no opinion, Meili is invited solely to get them to the tower to fix Rem and Subaru organized this entire expedition to fix Rem. There will doubtlessly be other plot points that come up here, because this story does not have arcs to waste without doing other stuff, but to say this arc is not about fixing Rem is fucking retarded.
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>>151929023
You kinda forgot Anastasia there anon.
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>>151929047
>Echidna
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>>151929047
Wait, i'm dumb and forgot that spirit Echidna is possessing Anastasia.

But, she's basically interested in getting out of her body, i don't think she cares about Gluttony victims.

>>151929065
yeah i noticed a little late.
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>>151929086
>she's basically interested in getting out of her body
She doesn't seem particularly interested even in that. When Subaru questioned her about motives she said she really had none. I'm sure she's not thrilled about it, but her only objective in the current mission is as a guide and if she learns anything good that would just be gravy.
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>>151929146
I believe she did tell Subaru she was looking for a way to get out of Anastasia's body, and her best bet was the Sage tower, but she did not want to go alone, so she requested Subaru's aid.

He didn't want to go at first, until she mentioned there MIGHT be a way to help Gluttony victims there.
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>>151928501
Yes their racist, but only part of it. They are calling her a Satella look-a-alike because she literally looks like her. This stated even more clearly by the that bold Zelligraf at Royal Election. That racsim itself came about because of what Satella did and Emilia is her born again to those people. It's not coming from nowhere. They are wrong of course that's part of point.

>>151928692
>Your claim is that nothing, nothing happens without Emilia and that Subaru is the MC by incident, you are claiming that Subaru is not relevant to the plot and that nothing is revolving around him when everything involving Satella and the Sage solely does so and Emilia is not involved in the slightest.

Yes that's exactly what I said. The events happen direct or indirect because of Emilia. Emilia would have had her emblem stile with or without Subaru involvement. That attack on the mansion would have happened with or without Subaru. The Witch Cult would have attacked the Roswaal's land with or without Subaru etc. Is thus not correct? If so then tell me how any of those incidents would have still happened.

>Funny that you claim to know how literature works while saying Rem does nothing, has no ties to any plot and is just a side character. You're even willing to claim an arc devoted to her condition isn't about her condition at all and that fixing her is incidental to what exactly? If fixing Rem isn't the plot of arc 6 what exactly do you think is? Going on a wacky trip with Emilia-tan? The rousing adventures of Julius and Anastasia-chidna? Meili's fun mabeast friend-making adventure?


Subaru is the MC becasue the story follows his perspective who witness and participants in events that surround Emilia. This not a knew storytelling technique which why I mentioned FFX as another example this method being employed. If he is not around then you don't see what is happening to Emilia, if Emilia isn't around a majority of the story's events don't happen.
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>>151929233
Basically he met other characters through like Rem, Crusch, Julius through his involvement with Emilia's issues. Without he may not even be Lugnica at this point. Do you get it now?
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>>151929233
>Emilia would have had her emblem stile with or without Subaru involvement.
She very, very, very specifically wouldn't. How are you this stupid? Roswaal hired Elsa to get the emblem SOLELY because he knew it would involve Subaru. No Subaru, no hit job.

>if Emilia isn't around a majority of the story's events don't happen.
Emilia is rarely around and the story moves along fine.
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>>151929302
>Without he may not even be Lugnica at this point.
Satella brought him here, Satella doesn't give a fuck about Emilia. She is straight up willing to kill her to punish Subaru.

>Basically he met other characters through like Rem, Crusch, Julius through his involvement with Emilia's issues.
And Emilia's issues wouldn't happen without Mimi and Ram, even beyond that they wouldn't happen without Clown, beyond that they wouldn't happen without Satella as the root, Satella wouldn't likely happen without some involvement from Flugel, I could keep going ad nauseum, your own logic doesn't hold up to why Emilia is in any way special as a vector compared to others.
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>>151929307
>No Subaru, no hit job.
Without Subaru, Emilia wouldn't even have been involved in the election in the first place. Roswaal only went to go fetch her from her forest so he could eventually use her to get to Subaru. It's not impossible to say that Emilia is more caught up in the bullshit surrounding Subaru than the other way around.
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>>151929233
>Yes that's exactly what I said. The events happen direct or indirect because of Emilia. Emilia would have had her emblem stile with or without Subaru involvement. That attack on the mansion would have happened with or without Subaru. The Witch Cult would have attacked the Roswaal's land with or without Subaru etc. Is thus not correct? If so then tell me how any of those incidents would have still happened.
Without subaru you wouldn't get past the thefts arc as his actions are what leads to reinhard to save them as Emilia would have been killed by Elsa otherwise.

Without subaru the attack on the mansion wouldn't have been resolved without victims (and it's implied that something happening on the villagers would have damaged the clown's standing)
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>>151928788
>And yet you just said what the MC does doesn't fucking matter.

Alright for better wording, Subaru's desires are not the only important in any given arc. Even then he's only at the tower fro Rem. But besides that other people have goals which story is also focusing on. If you have a problem with tat blame Tappei for making his side-characters worth a damn.

>
So basically, Subaru's reasoning for going is 100% irrelevant according to you. He's being drug along with no important goals in mind, those goals don't matter and its all incidental. Fuck you retard

You're fucking retard. I never said his gals where unimportant BUT THAT THE ARC ISN'T JUST ABOUT THEM. NONE OF THE ARCS EVER ARE.
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>>151929516
God you're such an illiterate fucking retard.
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>>151929489
Roswaal seems like he believed the gospel had another plan for him when he initially picked up Emilia and the gospel hadn't informed him of Subaru yet. He also at first likely thought Subaru would help him with the "old plan" aka killing the dragon.
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>>151929302
By that logic it'a all Satella's or whoever brough him in this world doing. Even Roswaal had more to do with it since he hired Elsa who is the reason why Subaru promised to save her and also why Emilia had reason to take him to the mansion.
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>>151929516
You literally said his goals don't matter. Here I'll quote it again for you.
>And do I have keep telling why this doesn't matter?

>BUT THAT THE ARC ISN'T JUST ABOUT THEM. NONE OF THE ARCS EVER ARE.
The arcs are specifically about Subaru's goals, his goals are the ones he works towards and the ones that advance forward. If he does not achieve them he resets and everything else goes with it. Other characters have personal goals and whatnot, but these are not the goals of the arc, which ends when Subaru achieves the goals he set out for and stops dying. Those are the subplots you seem to like bringing up. They're nice, and they flesh out the world and characters, and its really good to have well-rounded side characters, it makes the story more fun. But all of that gets erased if Subaru can't achieve his goals. The arc goals are what Subaru sets out and resolves to do, end of story.
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Why even bother talking with him when he can't communicate in english
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>>151929684
Thread is at bump limit and I have insomnia.
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>>151929684
People are bored and the thread's dying anyway. The problem comes when he keeps filling up threads with his barely coherent nonsense because he's probably misinterpreting what we say and we're probably misinterpreting what he says.
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this thread is dead, dead!


goodnight lads
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>>151929307
>She very, very, very specifically wouldn't. How are you this stupid? Roswaal hired Elsa to get the emblem SOLELY because he knew it would involve Subaru. No Subaru, no hit job.

Are YOU stupid? How the fuck does that change anything I said? Do realized that involved Emilia to begin with? If Roswaal had done that then either would have met somewhere elsa or not all. But the gospel told him they would meet hence the plan.

>Emilia is rarely around and the story moves along fine.

She around plenty. Even in case when she not like Arc 3 she is still indirect the plot because the incident did not occur because of Subaru. It happened because of Emilia and would come to some conclusion without him. That's why the village is destroyed before he gets there.

>Satella brought him here, Satella doesn't give a fuck about Emilia. She is straight up willing to kill her to punish Subaru

Right but that stop the events of story from literally happening because of her.

Had Subaru not met and when on his way would not the story be about something else a;la Rem AU? If not how would those other things happened without Emilia?

>And Emilia's issues wouldn't happen without Mimi and Ram, even beyond that they wouldn't happen without Clown, beyond that they wouldn't happen without Satella as the root, Satella wouldn't likely happen without some involvement from Flugel, I could keep going ad nauseum, your own logic doesn't hold up to why Emilia is in any way special as a vector compared to others.

The only part of this made any sense is Satella being root of everything because she is. But only as far as being the backbone of story at present. She set things in motion, but she not an active character beyond reviving Subaru and her one appearance. Her actions 400 year are what left mark and connects Subaru and Emilia to all these incidents to begin with. Emilia is dealing with fallout of it.
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>>151929979
>How the fuck does that change anything I said?
Because Subaru, not Emilia is the reason her emblem was stolen. Emilia would've gone happily through the Capital with nothing happening to her if Subaru was not a factor. Emilia would've sat in a forest for decades if Roswaal didn't want to revive his witchy waifu.

>but she not an active character beyond reviving Subaru and her one appearance.
>Makes the gimmick of the series work
>Actively restricts Subaru's actions
>Subaru lives in constant fear of her actions
>Not an active character
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>>151929979
>Are YOU stupid? How the fuck does that change anything I said? Do realized that involved Emilia to begin with? If Roswaal had done that then either would have met somewhere elsa or not all. But the gospel told him they would meet hence the plan.
Because you said without Subaru her emblem would still be stolen. This is flat out wrong, her emblem was stolen specifically because of Subaru as it would eventually lead him to the mansion. That was the only reason to hire Elsa, to pick up Subaru.
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>>151929564
Says the retard.

>>151929653
You literally said his goals don't matter. Here I'll quote it again for you.

And I told you it was poor wording on my part. It happens. My point his goals aren't the only that is important. We have already seen this time and time against. For example Wilhelm's beef with the Whale has little to do with Subaru, it's just an obstacle to overcome.

>The arcs are specifically about Subaru's goals, his goals are the ones he works towards and the ones that advance forward. If he does not achieve them he resets and everything else goes with it. Other characters have personal goals and whatnot, but these are not the goals of the arc, which ends when Subaru achieves the goals he set out for and stops dying. Those are the subplots you seem to like bringing up. They're nice, and they flesh out the world and characters, and its really good to have well-rounded side characters, it makes the story more fun. But all of that gets erased if Subaru can't achieve his goals. The arc goals are what Subaru sets out and resolves to do, end of story.

Then Emilia's emblem wouldn't matter. The battle with Whale which was mainly there provide exposition about Wilhelm wouldn't matter. All the other characters in tower with him wouldn't matter. I have no idea why you trying this, Rem is not everything in this nor does it have to be. Sheesh.

The story is multi-layered and involve a lot beyond just him. That's how Tappei has written it. Secondary characters exist to help propel a narrative forward while the MCs trying a resolution by helping the secondary characters with their goals. Suabru can't ever do anything by himself, he needs to work together others to achieve anything. So no his goals aren't not the only thing that is important. I find it extremely weird rail against that
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>>151930358
>Then Emilia's emblem wouldn't matter. The battle with Whale which was mainly there provide exposition about Wilhelm wouldn't matter. All the other characters in tower with him wouldn't matter.
Getting Emilia's emblem back was the goal of arc 1, the rest are those subplots you like fucking on about. The Arc Goal is the primary goal of the arc, its what the arc is about, its what the success condition and when Subaru can stop fucking killing himself. You claimed saving Rem was not the arc goal of arc 6, it is and you are a giant fucking retard.

>So no his goals aren't not the only thing that is important.
He needs people to help him with his goals, but yes, his goals are the only critical ones. If everyone else is happy and Subaru isn't, guess who is about to have their shit reset?
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>>151930358
Learn how to quote posts, holy fucking shit.
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>>151929684
>>151929723
If being dismissive is best you can do as counterpoint then I've already. Sorry not everyone is trap I your desluionary bubble and holds her as god.

Subaru and Emilia drive the story. Doesn't mean the others aren't important.
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>>151930547
>Subaru and Emilia drive the story.
Satella is significantly more important than Emilia, if you aren't putting her on the list and also ignoring Rem its you who is the delusional fanboy living in a fucking bubble.
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>>151930547
>Subaru and Emilia drive the story.
Clown is responsible for the plots of 4 out of 6 arcs, remind me again why Emilia is there?
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>>151930547
You're the one living in the fucking bubble where Emilia is anything more than a plot device that takes 4 arcs just to start developing.
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>>151930655
And Emilia isn't the reason for Arc 5, and Arc 6 is about Rem. That's some 'story driving' half-witch you've got there.
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>>151920612
Emilia's head shouldn't be stapled onto the last panel.
Not sure who's head to use. Maybe her uncle?
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>>151930133

Because Subaru, not Emilia is the reason her emblem was stolen. Emilia would've gone happily through the Capital with nothing happening to her if Subaru was not a factor. Emilia would've sat in a forest for decades if Roswaal didn't want to revive his witchy waifu.

...Annnd the reason the emblem could have been stole at all was because Emilia own. Someone planing to steal it from her does not change that she was target. Even was to lore Emilia was necessary for it to work because Roswaal knew she would help Subaru. If she didn't he would still be in the alley to thsi day. Is this not so?

>other stuffs.

This story is not about RBD and it's rules. That's just one part. Yes she not active character because actually have be manipulates the events of series like Roswaal or doing something beyond sitting around and grabbing Subaru's heart.

>>151930201
See what I said above. Rsowaal's plan because she was the one with both the necessary item and disposition to help Subaru. If anyone else could have done then woud ahve chosen them instead.
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>>151930868
>Someone planing to steal it from her does not change that she was target.
She wasn't. If Subaru was NOT THERE she would never have it stolen. Again, your claim:
>Emilia would have had her emblem stile with or without Subaru involvement.
She. Would. Not. No one gives a single fuck about her. Without Subaru her emblem NEVER gets stolen because Elsa NEVER gets hired. Subaru is the single reason for Arc 1 and the only goal the clown has. Emilia is a pawn, and she brings Subaru along for the clown just as planned. If there is no Subaru there is no plot, period. End of discussion.
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>>151930868
>If anyone else could have done then woud ahve chosen them instead.
How are you this fucking stupid? He did it that way because that's what his fucking book says to do. He doesn't 'choose' anyone. If he wanted the memeboy and knew what he looked like or what to look for he could easily have Ram bring him by force, but he doesn't because that's not what the book says to do. There is no decision making process, he did it because a fucking book said to.
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>>151930868
>Yes she not active character because actually have be manipulates the events of series like Roswaal or doing something beyond sitting around and grabbing Subaru's heart.
>Manages Subaru's saves
>Kills people, forcing resets
>Controls his contract, preventing him from talking to people
>Shows up for several conversations
>Brought him there to begin with
>Oh yeah, respawns him when he dies
But nah, she doesn't manipulate anything, easily ignored, might as well not be there at all.
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>>15193048
>Getting Emilia's emblem back was the goal of arc 1, the rest are those subplots you like fucking on about.

What are all these other stuff am I talking about and what does that have to with what I said? Do realize that Arc 1 had subplots of it's own? The trade with Felt being it and her reasons for it? Regardless i agreed, subplots are to begin with to build the main narrative. It usually consist of characters personal goals.

>The Arc Goal is the primary goal of the arc, its what the arc is about, its what the success condition and when Subaru can stop fucking killing himself. You claimed saving Rem was not the arc goal of arc 6, it is and you are a giant fucking retard.

All thsi tells you don't know shit about how arcs works. You're just Remfag who rides to defense if anyone claims she not center and just using the fact she one of Subaru personal reasons for going to tower expatiate over everything. That's not change we still getting chapters that arc over bunch of stuff doesn't have to do with Rem. Name calling doesn't change my point.

>He needs people to help him with his goals, but yes, his goals are the only critical ones. If everyone else is happy and Subaru isn't, guess who is about to have their shit reset?

The fact that he still needs people's help shows this isn't all about him. That's why getting all this stuff Wilhelm and his wife, Garfiel and the half-bloods, Anna's possession etc. He has deal all that stuff too not he gets nowhere. Tappei fucking put and focused on them for a reason.
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>>151931309
>he fact she one of Subaru personal reasons for going to tower
She is his ONLY reason for going to the tower you fucktard. He makes this fact explicitly and abundantly clear. Anything else he accomplishes there, anything he learns, anything he gets to helps others is all secondary to his singular goal. There are others in need of help and he simply does not care, it pales in comparison to saving Rem.
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>>151931309
>All thsi tells you don't know shit about how arcs works. You're just Remfag who rides to defense if anyone claims she not center and just using the fact she one of Subaru personal reasons for going to tower expatiate over everything.
She IS the central reason of arc 6, though. You don't need to be a Remfag to understand that, you just have to not be an illiterate fucktard like you continue making yourself out to be.
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>>151930625
But story isn't about Satella. She mostly a background because who sealed somewhere else. She only has to do with Subaru and Emilia but none of the arcs happened because of her present actions. Furthermore the elections have nothing to do with her directly.

>>151930698
Again attacking me or other characters doesn't strengthen point in anyway.. As far as the narrative Tappei is concerned it fucking does.

>>151930655
Because the Clown used Emilia to manipulate those events. By your logic Subaru nothing to do with those events because some shadow master was planning stuff. That is not really how stories with schemer type villains work. They need to do anything.
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>>151931309
>You're just Remfag who rides to defense if anyone claims she not center
I have never once said she is the center of the narrative. She is, however the center of Arc 6 and most of the plot will revolve around that. She's also an important character which you for all your claims of 'no bias' and 'I don't undervalue characters' refuse to acknowledge. You consistently have said she's just a maid and that nothing she does has relevance to anything major because you are a deluded Emiliafag who is assblasted that your waifu is losing to a potato on every front.

>and just using the fact she one of Subaru personal reasons for going to tower expatiate over everything.
She is his only reason. Nothing else matters.

>That's not change we still getting chapters that arc over bunch of stuff doesn't have to do with Rem.
And when have I ever cared about this? I've said repeatedly that more characters are good and the secondary cast is great, you're the one claiming Rem's irrelevance over and over again. Alos in your infinite butthurt and idiocy you have decided to claim that Subaru is also irrelevant.
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>>151931575
I'm attacking you because you continue acting like a fucking retard who doesn't listen to a damn word people are saying to you if they aren't agreeing with how you've built things up in your head. There's no point in trying to argue with you because you've already decided how things are because you're as bad as the Remfags you claim to think are the only ones against you, except with Emilia instead.

Learn some fucking English and learn to stop acting like everyone's part of one single group against you.
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>>151931575
>Because the Clown used Emilia to manipulate those events.
So you admit clown did everything and you're giving all the credit to his choice of tool. You are truly stupid.

>By your logic Subaru nothing to do with those events because some shadow master was planning stuff.
He doesn't. Subaru did not cause the plots of any of the arcs except 6 where he organizes an expedition to save Rem. Subaru is needed to solve those plots, but he did not set the events for those arcs in motion, I don't know why you would ever claim he does.
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Summaryanon help
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>>151931770
Summaryanon hasn't stopped the illiterate anon from doing his tirades before.
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>>151931770
Summaryanon can't save you now.

As an aside, he'll probably throw something up in a couple hours, I don't know if this thread will last. Should we make a new one eventually so we have the thread up when he shows up?
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>>151931818
If you want.
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>>151931002
>He needs people to help him with his goals, but yes, his goals are the only critical ones. If everyone else is happy and Subaru isn't, guess who is about to have their shit reset?

What part of Emilia owns the damn did you miss? Yes if Roswaal had palnned for it wouldn't have been stolen. But that's all that means and Subaru and Emilia would have either met a different way or not at all. But it was done and he used Emilia to do because he knew things would play out that way. It doesn't retroactivity change that events of Arc 1 revolved around Emilia. If she doesn't get her emblem stolen then there no reason for Subaru to help her. None of these things contradict either other.

>She. Would. Not. No one gives a single fuck about her.

Will people clear do when she has fucking crazy cult and clown needs to manipulate to manipulate Subaru. That fact peope get uppity when see means that they give a fuck about her. The fact that the Dragon made her candidate means that he gives a fuck about her. Your opinon doesn't change what is written.

Without Subaru her emblem NEVER gets stolen because Elsa NEVER gets hired. Subaru is the single reason for Arc 1 and the only goal the clown has. Emilia is a pawn, and she brings Subaru along for the clown just as planned. If there is no Subaru there is no plot, period. End of discussion.


Without her having a emblem in the first place nothing is stolen at all. Now of end of disscussion.
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