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It's over, the fujos won

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>Yuri on Ice - 50k
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Stay in your general.
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Did Oricon make a mistake?
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>>151893266
Yes
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>>151893201
Is this the best selling BL show ever?
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>>151893266
Stephane Lamibel here with breaking news. Apparently Orion hecked the heck up and release incorrect numbers stating YOI had sold 35K BDs and DVDs. We have just gotten new reports saying Yuri!!! On Ice sold 50K, beating out such classics as K-ON.

Now back to you, Victor, you salope.
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>>151893303
It's not a BL
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IT'S HAPPENING
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>>151893303
It's a fujobait, not BL.
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>50k
What went so wrong with anime industry?
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How long until that "b-but muh love live sold more" guy shows up?
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>>151893469
>fujobait
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>>151893479
More male Otaku need to get jobs so they can buy their BDs.
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>>151893521
>only one party is blushing
>out-of-context friendship crap
Do they profess their sexual love for each other before kissing and fucking? No? Not yaoi.
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>>151893201
Fujos won what exactly?

If more shows comes out for them so be it. Just hope they don't start flooding the market with carbon copy shows like they have been doing with their male audience for a long time and that they are diverse.
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>>151893479
>An amazingly animated show with a brilliant and captivating story will never EVER outsell faggots fucking each other on skates nor idol garbage

The better question is what is wrong with the world.
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>>151893201
Source
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>>151893615
>what is madoka
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>>151893564
oh yeah this show definitely isn't gay as fuck, all these fujo are just hanging onto pure, straight, not homosexual friendship between figure skaters
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>>151893626
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/98130
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>>151893653
Absolute horse shit.
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>>151893672
Thanks
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>>151893615
>FliFla will sell 8-9k in total
Just think about it.
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>>151893656
That's called "bait", my overweight friend.
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>>151893653
madoka is literally as gay as YOI, except with underage girls instead of figure skating men
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>>151893676
Nice contrarianism, did you get that from /v/?
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>>151893615
>implying there is anything wrong with a series with passionate staff doing something different selling well
Have some fucking perspective, it's not bad because it's gay. The industry would be better off if more series had the love and research poured into it that YOI did, and if there was an increase in adult characters in professional contexts instead of more boring highschoolers. It's far better that something like this sells than more idolshit.
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>>151893527
I can't blame them on not buying a lot of these shallows shows that been releasing over the years. If you seen one of them you pretty much seen them all because that's how copy and pasted these shows are. Might as well save your money when you can watch an old show that has all these elements you see in these current shows.
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>>151893725
Flip Flappers was crap so I'd say even that much is optimistic.
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>>151893760
Madoka isn't good and never will be
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>>151893672
Also
http://mainichi.jp/articles/20170105/dyo/00m/200/035000c
http://mantan-web.jp/2017/01/06/20170105dog00m200056000c.html
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1582330&show=50#msg49226841

And pic related, the BD sales updated to 35k.
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>>151893782
And the DVD sales updated to 15k.
>50,878 total
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>>151893778
According to what, your fat opinion?
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>>151893798
>>151893782
Holly fucking shit
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>>151893763
Fuck off with this research meme already.
You're literally praising them for the work they were fucking supposed to do.
>OMG they depicted the real life ice skating in an ice skating anime!! So much passion!!

You might as well go praise janitor because he cleaned toilets
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>>151893798
Still very far from the latest fujo FOTM
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>>151893763
I never said Yuri wasn't well made. Anyway, you and me both know a show of similar quality without skating faggots wouldn't sell anywhere close. The industry not surprisingly is also aware of this fact.
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Get back to me when it outsells gundam seed destiny.
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>>151893876
>them for the work they were supposed to do.
Today is a rare thing, even irl
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Hetfags can burn in hell.

We're in the golden age, assholes
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WE WERE BORN TO MAKE HISTORY
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>yoi is going to flop

What did /a/ mean by this?
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>>151893923
Shirobako had a lot of research too, did it sell 50k+? Fuck no, YOI sold so much only because it baited the retarded landwhales.
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>>151893898
It seems a little late to bother complaining about that, we all know that anime is a niche product that only sells when the audience really gets invested in the characters. That's just how it is, it'd be nice if quality alone dictated sales but instead we should just be grateful when shipping and waifu/husbandofaggotry go hand in hand with a decent series.
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I was born in the right timeline after all.
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>>151893945
So what's your point? Maybe Shirobako deserved to sell better, but that doesn't mean YOI doesn't deserve it.
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>osomatsu
>yaoi on ice

Avex is enjoying the fujobucks.
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>>151893945
Cry more
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>Can't wait for this show to flop
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>>151893944
/a/ can be confused for many things, but one thing it categorically fails at is prophecy.
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MORE

LIKE

YAOI

ON

ICE
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>50k
Heh, how weak

Call me when it sells 66k on the first week
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>>151894011
What a time to live
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>>151894069
keking so hard right now
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>>151894015
Posting on /a/ when Free was airing was the most fun I've had on /a/ in years.
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There is a god
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>>151893945
there is no need to be upset just because a show you didn't like is good
>>151894015
this chart can be improved alas I have no time to do it
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>>151893945
>baited
top kek
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>>151893479
Nothing.
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>>151893656
>>151893732

This is actually called traced.
http://yusaani.com/topics/2016/12/15/378230/
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>>151894069
>Phichit taking a selfie with the graph
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>>151894094
>YOI is good
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Reminder that disc sales are irrelevant in the age of Chinese streaming.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ywang/2016/05/25/china-is-obsessed-with-japanese-anime-and-investors-are-paying-attention-2/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-feeds-chinas-anime-addiction-1482060688

http://en.yibada.com/articles/126963/20160527/young-chinese-preference-for-virtual-getaways-boosts-japanese-anime-market-to-250-billion-yuan.htm

The chink anime fanbase are virtually all male otakus and don't give a shit about BL.
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>>151894114
>traced from women
wew

Also why is there no backlash over this?
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Suwabe must be so happy.
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Fujo reign has started guys.
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>>151894127
>gets BTFO by sales numbers
>falseflags that "sales numbers don't count" to save face

Fuck off, loser.
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>>151894141
There has been in japan. Western whales don't know the half of it.
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>>151894114
>>151894141
"Referencing legally bought stock images is tracing" is an old meme
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>>151894141
Because the person concerned knows about it and is happy?
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An anime original sold well. Life is good.
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>>151894153

i for one accept my new fujoshi overlords
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>>151894127
You're no fun.
Mocking shows for having low BD sales and celebrating when a show you like has high sales are classic /a/ traditions.
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>>151894171
>literally tracing
>referencing
come on now
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>>151894171
http://www.designfather.com/scandinavian-apartment-industrial-elements-architect-denis-krasikov/

>legally bought stock images
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>>151894153
until they can constantly beat things like LL and monogatari they're small time
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>>151894205
Wew
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>>151894205
And you can see with the BD they changed that?
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>>151894168
This was actually discussed weeks ago and the dancer also posted about it in English.
>>151894201
Cry more.
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>>151894223
keep on moving those goalposts, kek.
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>>151894201
>don't even match up
>tracing
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>>151894205
That apartment looks pretty damn comfy t.b.h.
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>>151894224
Holy shit, so much passion and research
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>>151894159
It's the truth though. BD sales compared to the past are way low with a few occasional big hits. Having more fujo shows isn't going to change the fact the industry is in a decline. It may hold it up for a while until it eventually end up tumbling down. Anime eventually is going to have to go mainstream if it wants to survive which to be honest the way the quality of the stories I been seeing in shows for years may be for the best.
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>>151894240
you get to the goalpost first for me to move it
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We takin over
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>>151894159
But disc sales indeed don't matter that much. They make like 10% of studios's earrings.

Studios make most of their money from merches.
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>>151894245
>>151894114
>they don't match up

>>151894205
>>151894224
KEK
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>>151894237
You're the one crying here if that's all you have left to say.
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>>151894153
We stole your throne when you weren't looking a long time ago, it's only taken you this long to finally noticing. We came at you not with invasion, but with infection, and you had no defense against it; no war to declare, your weapons stayed idle and your armor was useless. Where before you were able to stymie our advance with fury and fire, all it required was changing the nature of the battlefield to make fury and fire inconsequential. Now your world is our plaything, as are your hearts; your desires now service our desires, and now you face the choice you gave us for all those years: stay and accept your place, or perish in the cold and cling to memories of your now-dead age of glory.

You'll choose the former; you're too much the cowards to choose the latter.
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>>151894254
Do you think people are posting these sales as proof that the industry is doing well? Sales are relative, they are only relevant in that we are comparing them with other series' sales. There is a time and place for talking about the industry as a whole but this is not it, this is for being smug or butthurt about how much your favourite series sells compared to others.
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>>151894275
Are you blind? Look harder
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>>151894278
>dredges up off-topic material that was old ages ago as if it's some kind of scandal
>accuses others of crying
OK sweetie.
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>>151894224
They changed that in the BD you nigger. Face it you fucking lost.
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>>151894306
>sweetie
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>>151894308
>changed it in the bd
>this means it's awwwwright

KEK
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>>151894087
and he is a spiteful and evil one
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>>151894306
>sweetie
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>>151894338
But it is you retard. No one gave a fuck and now this is all you have to resort to.
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>fujuos spam yaoi on ice threads
>/a/ reminds them they are still small time
>haha you mad /a/
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What a time to be alive.
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Do you guys know using stock images as references is common as fuck? There's lots of cases like those, not the first, not the last. Stop bitching. Indie artists do that, seniors too, it happens.
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>>151894308
They shouldn't have done shit they need to hide in the first place, rancid cunt.
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>>151894378
>There's lots of cases like those
For example 90% of all shots Shaft and KyoAni "draw".
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>>151893201
>>151893513
.
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>>151894114
They also based their key frames on live action skating whom the hired to skate for them and recorded them.
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>>151894378
They don't really care either way, but they can't shitpost about sales anymore so they're resorting to whatever they can nitpick about a series they don't like.
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>>151894378
>comparing a tv anime production to indie literal who artists
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>>151894054
The number keeps creeping up. What would you do if it was surpassed, anon
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>>151894390
They didn't hide it, that was broadcasted on Tv. Go kill yourself now.
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>>151894308
>the changed it in the BDs
So this is the power of passion
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>>151894405
>They also based their key frames on live action
Wow.
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>>151893201
>50k
wait what? I thought YOI had a ceiling of 35k?
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>>151894430
Laugh at how you think it would
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>>151893326
>salope
Delete this, Viktor is a jouvencelle.
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>all those hetfag tears
Cry more, era of fujo has come. The invisible hand of market will make sure that homos infest your favorite series now. Enjoy het while you can.
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>>151894430
Are you retarded? Do you realise what "sales on the first week" means?
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No doubt we're gonna get a bunch of shitty rip-offs due to this and the fujos are gonna eat them up. Tumblr landwhales that praised YOI only on the basis of its "progressiveness" are gonna spill some serious salt once they realise Japan doesn't actually care about special snowflake shit.
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>>151894407
Yeah I guess I was baited. Still waking up, not my forte to distinguish bait to real discussions before breakfast.
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>>151894430
>if it was surpassed
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>>151894451
Read the thread retard
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>>151894449
Anime always has issues first time airing. Wonder how the BDs will turn out. Kyoani itself had issues they corrected. There is also artistic license in order to emphasize motion.
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>>151894476
A lot of the fujoshit that sold this season didn't do that great.
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>>151894451
It is.
OP was trolling by adding up the DVD and BDs
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>https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2148246433045372901

>tracing from a straight couple
My sides
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>>151894454
Victor es une salope.
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>>151894476
Yeah, because that totally happened with Free, eh?
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>>151894507
Because male pair skating to that degree of intimacy does not exist you retard.
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>>151894506
No, Oricon's error was confirmed. It's over 50k total.
>>151893672
>>151893782
>>151893798

Also
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-06/yuri-on-ice-anime-1st-bd-volume-sells-35453-to-rank-no.2-on-overall-weekly-bd-chart/.110698
>Oricon has updated its sales numbers for both the first Blu-ray Disc volume and the first DVD volume. Oricon now states that the first Blu-ray Disc volume sold 35,453 copies in first three days, while the first DVD volume sold 15,425 copies. The list had previously stated that the Blu-ray Disc volume had sold 24,513, while the DVD volume had sold 11,076.
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>>151894452
>>151894487
They're literally still laughing even in the face of shit like this. I guess it's kind of refreshing you guys have no shame.
>>151894403
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>>151894476
People are exaggerating this. Fujoshit flops more often than it sells, and adding fujoshit isn't the automatic key to selling.
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>>151894515
Stop projecting already, grognasse.
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>50k
>first volume
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>>151894507
These people have no shame.
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>>151893201
>tfw fujos can actually spend money because they aren't degenerate male neets
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I wonder how many the kissu volume will sell. And episode 10's.
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>>151894536
We laugh because we are not deluded like you.
Your greatest flagship cannot even surpass GuP. And you want to challenge fucking Love Live?
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>>151894507
B-but they g-got permission!
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>>151894536
Laughing through their greasy, lard tears probably.
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>>151894507
B-BUT MUH RESEARCH
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>>151894264
We run the town now
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Keep moving goalposts and nitpicking about the most irrelevant shit ever, kek. Accept defeat now.
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>>151894534
Not even allowed to have it. It's super-verboten under the current rules to have a male pairs skating team in competition.
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>>151894507
Well yeah. Find good gay ice dancing to reference. The overall choreography for the anime was done by a former Japanese ice dancer and professional choreographer.
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>one gaybait show sells
>fujos now believe they are taking over the industry

>let's ignore the rest of shows that sold in 2016 and the amount of flopping fujoshows

What a meme
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>>151894476
I'm surprised they praised YOI for being progressive. There was so much queerbaiting in it and neither of the characters were ever serious about any of the romantic things they were doing. Victor either laughed it all off as a joke and Yuri is the densest material known to man.
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>>151894507

PASSION
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>>151894632
Stop showing how autistic and retarded you are
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>>151894632
Fuck off back to mal, you homosexual uncle tom.
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>LLfags actually threatened enough by YOI that they're participating in a one sided fanwar over the tiny minority of YOIfags who speculated it might beat LL

Kek, nobody gives a shit if it beats LL or not, the sales are amazing as they are. LL isn't the gauge for success and everyone knows it's a juggernaut, bragging about it beating an original series by a tiny studio is verging on pathetic.
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>>151894507
Is this even legal? I thought they hired someone to develop original programs for this, or did the fujos lie to me?
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>>151894646
>all dat quality
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>>151894678
Yes and yes
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>>151894632
It's tumblr, anon. They read between the lines on everything for their fantasies. Stop expecting intelligence from them.
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If there was so much "passion" in this project, why couldn't they make TV version look good like FliFla?
I'm sure if they were really "passionate" about it, they'd try to make it as good as possible for the broadcast through any means
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>>151894705
>I'm an autist who needs everything spelled out for me
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>>151894632
Most of them are idiots who never watch anime or only watch the latest tumblr meme like SnK and Free so they have no idea what they are talking about.
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>>151894632
>unironically using the term queerbaiting
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>>151894718
>passion alone can compensate for budget and scheduling issues
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>>151894660
Bullshit, YOI general has literally been planning to make threads like these to brag about the sales. Some fag even posted a list of links to cute girl show threads to raid.
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>>151894660
They're all scrambling trying to deflect it's hilarious.
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>>151894629
Yeah, like Haikyuu and swordshit flopping, amirite. You're just mad.
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>>151894698
You don't understand true passion.
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>>151894660
How about bragging about it cannot even beat the anime original GuP and fucking Madoka?

Don't be so hard on yourself. We are just teaching you your place :^)
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>>151894750
And anons told them off
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You're hilarious hetfags. Go on, entertain us.
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>>151894660
Why are idolshit fags always the most retarded and autistic bunch? Idolshit was a mistake.
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>>151894761
Pssst
Last season had 16 fujos airing at the same time. None of them managed to survive.
All because Love Live was on the prowl

YoI is lucky to have evaded the guilotine by an inch on the scalp
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>>151894743
But Flip Flappers looked really good, how did they manage it while YOI didn't even though it had just as much "passion and hardwork"?
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>>151894660
>implying I don't hate both
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>>151894761
Haikyuu isn't a fujoshow, it's just a show fujos watch, but you have a good point.
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>>151894781
>nobody gives a shit
>except the people that do
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>>151894750
>Some fag even posted a list of links to cute girl show threads to raid.

Fujos are really threatened by cute girls huh
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>>151894750
Are you implying these aren't sales worth bragging about? Again, LL is not the benchmark for good sales. Nobody is targeting LL specifically. Coming in here to laugh at a series with great numbers because it didn't beat one of the biggest franchises in the industry is like bragging that you beat a child in a race or something, embarrassing as fuck. Not as embarrassing as how genuinely angry and threatened you sound though.
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>>151893201
Wow
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>>151894809
Do the Love Lives make out with each other? If so picked up.
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>>151894761
>ignoring the multitude of fujoshows that flopped
There it is again.
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Did the BD's fixed the awful skating animation already? I dropped it around episode 4 because of it. I hope MAPPA fix this shit in S2 since YOI is a success.
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>>151894822
t. a buttblasted faggot that's mad about male homos
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>>151894476
I think you mean they'll cry salt once they realise they haven't created any real change by praising it from afar either. Tumblr is obsessed with the idea that they can force western social justice principles onto an eastern country.

Which is called colonialism or imperialism or whatever but if you told them they were doing that they'd rage.
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>>151894809
>Last season had 16 fujos airing at the same time
Name all of them, then we can talk.
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>>151894832
If you don't want others bragging how small time you trully are, then don't make threads claiming you've won the industry

Shitposting begets shitposting
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>>151893201
>Went from 35k to 50k
Holy fucking shit
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>>151894632
>misunderstanding characters this hard
Sasuga, wouldn't have expected anything else from someone who unironically uses the term queerbaiting.
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>>151894832
But you're basically doing the opposite by bragging about your sales. And I mean bragging, not celebrating, as evidenced by the OP. So what does that make you?
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>>151894858
The vast majority of series flop whether it's fujo, yuri or het. Ignoring the fact that the 'fujos won!' shit is obvious hyperbole and bait, they have an undeniably significant market share at this point and we know it upsets you.
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BORN TO MAKE HISTORY!
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>>151894867
I really hope they do, too. They should have all the time, money, and support they need to make every second of it god tier.
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>>151894870
>faggot calling others faggots
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>>151894832
>Again, LL is not the benchmark for good sales. Nobody is targeting LL specifically.

>>151894430

YOIfujos have been praying it beats LL for weeks.
>>151894337
>>151893513
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Women are a mistake.
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Today is a good day
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>>151894870
I'm not the one telling people to spam homo threads about how well a cute girl show sold.
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>>151894917
>except 2d ones that can't say no to my repulsive face and BO
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>>151894632
Can't tell if SJW or trolling anon.
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>>151894917
Especially the woman that gave birth to you.
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>>151894883
>projecting your delusions this hard
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What a time to be a fujoshi!
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>>151894964
>needing to be spoonfed
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Why do faggots act like Love Live only succeed because it had idols?
Do you really think LL sold so much because it had cute girls dancing? [email protected] existed long before LL, and yet it's not nearly as successfull
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>>151894632
The people who truly believe it isn't a pile of bait every fucking fujo show has are not to be bothered with. Just look at the "muh representation" shit mentions int he archives. These people are not /a/.

One has to wonder why women just can't be more honest and admit they find it hot.
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>>151894822
Why would they? Yurio is prettier than any of those sluts.
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>>151894964
(you)
Happy?
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>>151895000
and clearly [email protected] is superior
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>>151894632
I agree on the queerbaiting its practically shoujo tear baby's first bl but I liked what they did with the reveal of the crazy after party shenanigans. could have definitely been done better but with that revelation in mind it ties the romance better.
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>>151895000
It had Sunrise financing and promoting them.
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>>151894890
>Ignoring the fact that the 'fujos won!' shit is obvious hyperbole and bait

>ignoring half the thread

I mean yeah you could do that but it doesn't make fujos look like rational human beings.
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>>151894705
I'll laugh so hard if they fuck it up for season two and go the cliche route like every other fujo show. Not showing them kissing directly is the only reason why anyone liked this. Fujos love a good tease.
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>>151895043
>queerbaiting
you're all worse than the fujos
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>>151894884
There's nothing wrong with general, aimless gloating. If LLfags wanna start a thread bragging about it's sales, that's fine. But pretending the only praiseworthy sales are ones that beat LL is pathetic.
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>>151895019
Who knows? Maybe they are bitter /a/ fawns over cute girls more than their ugly mugs or fuccbois crushes.
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>>151895072
>implying you know anything about fujos
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>>151895000
Because it only succeeded because it had idols? Remove idols, singing and dancing and you have nothing left. Otaku bought LL only for event tickets, they don't care about the show.
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>>151895010
You might be a shallow little hetfag who only watch anime for cute girls but some women look for more things like good content, plot and charactersation. Not everyone is as dim as you anon.
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>>151895087
Oh come on mate I like reading bl and yuri shit and this was definitely "queerbaiting" to an extreme.
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>>151895089
>There's nothing wrong with general, aimless gloating
On the contrary, general aimless gloating pretty much means you're directing your gloating to everyone else, so don't be so surprised when you get swarmed. It's like going to a ghetto, taking out a megaphone and screaming "HAHAHAHA EAT SHIT NIGGERS" then backpedaling with "b-b-b-but I wasn't talking to you specifically mr jamal" when someone comes up to your face.
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>>151894917
>Blames women even though YOI was really liked by men too
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>>151895128
>i'm a retard that needs to be spoonfed everything
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>>151895128
This bait got old.
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>>151895072
It was a cliche fujo show from day one. I don't know why people think it's any different. They aimed for the market from the start and filled it with pandering for them from the start.
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>>151895087
Well, it's bait but tumblr fell for it so may as well use their own words against them.
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>>151895000
LL girls are purer and there is no self insert male so girls also like watching and playing it.
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>>151895110
I think they meant the SJW crowd, anon. Which, to be honest, I'd be pretty happy over too.
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>>151895113
Remove landwhale pandering from YOI and it wouldn't sell nearly as much too.
>they don't care about the show
Yep, it's not like there's tons of merch getting sold every day or anything
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>>151895128
You do not understand what queerbaiting means. This series was designed to attract straight women, not queer people. It literally cannot be baiting queers in any way.
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>>151895173
Look at this retarded straight guy thinking he understands girls and believing everyone thinks like him.
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>>151895114
>good content, plot and charactersation.
Sure but what does that have to do with YOI?
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>>151895144
Everyone expects shitposting and butthurt, that's the whole fun of the threads. That doesn't mean we won't notice when someone is being particularly retarded and they absolutely deserve to be told that.
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>>151895113
>Because it only succeeded because it had idols?
Then why are other idol shows not as successful?
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>>151895238
Go watch it first, then we'll have a talk. Oh sorry, I forgot you can't watch gay dudes being in love because of your insecurity over your sexuality faggot.
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>>151895266
>it's okay when we gloat
>but when someone else gloats back they're retarded
k
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>wake up
>all this shitposting

I swear you all need to calm down
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>>151895233
What is your explanation for LL being more popular than [email protected] then?
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>>151895227
Using queers to bait baiting hets or sure but this also baited actual queers. You can't deny that. Hell nigga I even forwarded this to my gay ass neighbor.
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>>151895227
Japan literally does not give a shit about fags or dykes. So all you little special snowflakes that think that your yurishit/yaoishit isn't there to bait heteros are fucking deluded.
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>Make a shitpost thread
>get angry when all of /a/ isn't circlejerking over tumblr's flavor of the month

You people forget what /a/ is like outside homo generals or what?
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>>151895285
Are you going to continue avoiding the issue at hand here, which is that some people have decided literally the ONLY justification for praising/celebrating/bragging about these sales is if they beat LL? It's fucking retarded. They are going to be told they're retarded. It's not about whether or not it's 'okay'.
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>>151895302
LL doesn't have thousands of idols you couldn't care less about.
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>>151895312
They bait heteros and may in fact bait queers in the process. What they want are profits in the end.
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>>151895295
>go to a shitposting thread
>find shitposts
What did you expect?
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Oricon ranking of yesterday is up.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/bd/d/2017-01-05/

BD - #1
DVD - #2

First time BD takes first place in the daily rankings.
Crazy how the blu-ray version is actually ahead of SMAP.
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>>151895227
I thought it "appropriating the queer identity" in order to bait people into watching and supporting it?
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>>151895323
>FUJOS WIN TEEHEE 50K SALES!
>But that doesn't even beat LL, how exactly did fujos win again?
>S-S-S-S-SHUT UP RETARD!
ok
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>>151895312
No fucking shit, that's why the term 'queerbaiting' CANNOT APPLY. They don't care about queers, they aren't the intended audience. They are not being baited, they are being ignored entirely.
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>>151895283
I did. Now what does this show full of shallow characterization and barely existent plot have to do with your statement?
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>>151895364
THEY ARE USING QUEERS TO BAIT THUS QUEERBAITING. Get your tumblr snowflake shit out of this.
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>>151895302
Event tickets.
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>>151895364
I was actually agreeing with you. That retard that thinks that Japan was actually catering to his faggot ass is delusional. "Queerbait" does not exist in accordance to Japanese media.
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>>151895387
That's not what the term means, you moron. You can't invent definitions like that. Call it fujobait if you must, but queerbaiting is a specific thing that does not apply in this situation.
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>>151895354
I also love fujos using the sales = high quality show now. I guess Madoka and SAO are masterpieces we need to revere.
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>People not understanding what queerbaiting is
>All these hetfag tears

This is too good.
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>>151895411
>using tumblr definitions

start preaching about appropriation and stupid shit already.
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>>151895350
As >>151895364 says they didn't aim it at the western audience that’s praising it, so it can't apply (thus making all those letters the queer tumblr crowd are trying to send the makers saying thank you for validating them hilarious). However, you could probably make a good argument for it being done unintentionally.
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>>151895441
If you wanna use tumblr terms against them you should probably know what they mean first. Otherwise you look like a huge retard.
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>>151894878
Sorry for being late. My computer suddenly crashed

Anyway, here's your list of the unfortunate ones who faced Love Live's wrath:
>B-Project
>Arslan Senki
>91 Days
>Battery
>Bouei-bu
>Days
>D-GrayMan Hallow
>Fudanshi Koukou Seikatsu
>Fukigen na Mononokean
>Hatsukoi Monster
>Ozmafia!!
>ReLIFE
>Scared Rider Xechs
>Servamp
>Tsukiuta. The Animation
>Tales of Zestiria
>Cheer Danshi
>Orange
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>>151895441
>using a tumblr word and making up your own definition
How the fuck is that any better? They made it up, it's already a SJW word. You're using it for no good reason and people are rightfully telling you to use an /a/ appropriate term instead.
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LL is all they have left. LL is what they think is the final boss to us, but LL is Teruki and YoI is Mob. We're not even fighting, we're just hanging out and having fun while they come in uninvited, fling shit in the air and scream about being the centre of the universe.
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Literally every highlight of every episode in this show had been some fanservice scene for fujoshits to go mental about.
>omg they kissed!!!
>omg naked ass!!
>omg wedding ring!!!
At least don't pretend this show sold so much because it had "good writing".
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>>151895475
I don't think you know what fujo means
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>>151895481
Madoka is the final boss.
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>>151895354
Why does it need to beat LL? It's sold 5 times as most people expected. That's like saying a movie is a flop because it didn't beat Titanic.
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>>151895374
Were you afraid of opening your eyes cause you could see two guys getting engaged? This time watch it with open eyes and try to use your brain in the process. I know, it's not easy for you but maybe, just maybe you can see we have human characters here, all of them with their own motives and reasons to be there, relationships that are realistic even with all the real life problems, respect and love for figure skating, so much that it's appreciated by real life figure skaters.

Don't be a butthurt little shit anon. If something is good, don't be afraid to enjoy it just to prove a point to yourself.
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>>151895505
It is a fujobait show. Last season was the most fujo season I've ever seen. And what a laugh it was to see it all fail under Love Live's commands
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>>151895475
How is D-grayman fujo?
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>>151895513
Because if you're bragging then you actually need to have something worth bragging about.
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>>151895445
>(thus making all those letters the queer tumblr crowd are trying to send the makers saying thank you for validating them hilarious)

They actually did this? Haha oh lordy
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>>151895421
>All these hetfag tears
I wonder if they're crying as they desperately move the goalposts now they can't call it a flop
>but it didn't beat LL!
>but they traced!
>but it's queerbaiting!

They really keep these threads entertaining. If they had a little maturity and didn't get upset by something aimed at a different demographic doing well, there'd be no reason for us to be so smug over it.
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>>151895475
>B-Project
>Tsukiuta. The Animation
B-But LL sold so much because of idols!! Why aren't our boy idols shows selling so much???? It's not fair!!
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>>151895542
Yuri on Ice is a fujo show, but most of the shows you listed aren't.
Tell me, do you know what fujo means?
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>>151895493
>thinking fanservice and good writing is mutually exclusive
Kek, that's almost sad.
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>>151895475
>Orange
>literally a show about a heterosexual romance told from a girl's perspective
>fujo
You're one of those people who thinks "fujo" means "female", right?
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>>151895542
None of us wanted Love Live to fail. A lot of people that like YoI also like Love Live. You're pathetic because you're actively rooting for a show to fail and when it doesn't you're still claiming superiority because a show you like as much as many in this thread did better. We don't care about beating Love Live we care about getting a second season.
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>>151895566
They are all fujobait shows. Please stop trying to be naugty with your words
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>>151895548
It sort of has gay couple that's canon. That's something I guess.
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>>151895043
I mean I've definitely seen way more gay OVA's, but YOI had more homo in the first episode than the entirety of anime based on actual BL games (DMMD, TNC.) I'm hard pressed at finding an example of a non-baity gay anime that actually aired on TV. Japan isn't exactly accepting of the actual homo gays, so baiting is frankly all that you'll get.

From what I heard of my fujo friends, the director for YOI is fairly adamant about them being actually gay, but can't actually make it happen.

That being said, is queerbaiting really any worse than lolrandumb titty shots and perv humor that gets injected in literally every other show? They're both fucking stupid. The last show I saw that had neither was fucking Kekkai wait till next season for the finale episode Sensen.
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>>151895624
Wait what? Which canon gay couple? Who are you talking about?
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What went so wrong
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>>151895602
No, they aren't.
Considering you haven't answered my question I'll just assume you don't know what fujo means. Retard.
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>>151895578
No, I didn't imply that
The point is that this show didn't have any moments that were memorable without featuring some kind of landwhale baiting.
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>>151895690
Nothing. Nothing has gone this right before.
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>>151895708
K
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>>151895680
Alma and Kanda were engaged in a previous life and they still care for each other and ran off together in the end.
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>>151895690
How much did flippity flop sell?
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>>151895690
Shit characters, shit plot, and otaku won't buy things just because yuri like fujos do for yaoi.
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>>151895509
Touhou is the FINAL BOSS.
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>>151895715
I forgot we have to be progressive now and accept the fact that shit like faggots on ice is going to sell well because "LGBT rightss man!1!1!"
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>>151895726
One of them were actually female though. And when they met again, it was only a very short time until one of them died. And they weren't romatically involved before they met again. That doesn't count as a canon gay couple.
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>>151895709
Well, since it's literally a love story - a love story interwoven so deeply in the narrative that it's also reflected in the skating itself - it's a given that the memorable moments would mostly revolve around intimacy between the protagonists. That's obvious. Do you also point out that all memorable moments in, say, Death Note involve murders with Death Note?
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>>151893201

What's the big deal again? It's still far below LL or Madoka.
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>>151895762
I said sort of gay couple. And both were male when they met again. They made no point of either being against being together now they are both male either.
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>>151895758
Except American fujos can't influence shit.
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>>151895791
You think the gay rights landwhale shit is limited to America? How foolish anon
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>MUH SJW MUH PROGRESSIVES
You faggots realize that fujo shows like YOI are aimed at straight women right? Japan doesn't give a shit about faggots from San Francisco or cuck western liberal "progressiveness".
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>>151895788
Wait, am I missing something? Didn't one of them die right after they met?
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>>151895858
Nigga we know that, you didn't have to reiterate again you retard.
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>>151895858
I'm a bisexual otokonoko and I believe that it was aimed for me. Fuck you
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>>151895860
Yeah, but that doesn't remove the fact they were engaged in their previous lives or that they left together.
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>>151895858
They will start to when gay marriage gets legalized there.
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>>151895858
I literally couldn't care less. I enjoy it, that's enough for me.
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>>151894254
>Having more fujo shows isn't going to change the fact the industry is in a decline. It may hold it up for a while until it eventually end up tumbling down.
>I thought there were only a few fujo shows this coming year.

>Anime eventually is going to have to go mainstream if it wants to survive which to be honest the way the quality of the stories I been seeing in shows for years may be for the best.
Just because fujo shows are trending doesn't mean that the anime industry is going to take evasive action and actually go mainstream overnight (which it is, at least in Japan). We'll have to see what happens if this becomes the case in foreign countries, but it'll be unlikely for another couple of years. People are still going to have their slice-of-life, harem, ecchi, and whatever else. Who knows, maybe it'll result in a boom.

Case in point:
>>151894476
>>151894503
>>151894549
>>151895312
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>>151895915
>I'm genetically retarded and I have a retarded belief
Woah...
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>>151895927
one of them was also a woman too
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>>151895915
and I identify as an attack helicopter that will blow your faggot ass.
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>>151895931
Highly unlikely, at least for the next few years. Japan is still extremely conservative, and the majority of the land is homophobic.
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>>151895979
B-but I'll get pregnant!
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>>151895931
in 2030 maybe. most of the country still uses fucking fax machines.
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>>151895858
I wonder what gay and bi Japanese men think of YoI. And while it's targeting the fujo audience, I'm pretty sure a lot of fujo aren't straight. I don't give a shit about Western lgbtwtf though, I always see people who don't know shit about anime state their opinion on the show like they're experts.
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>>151895553
Yeah, I saw someone repost a giant, feels filled letter about how glad they were that Japan was recognising their plight and that the makers had taken such care to research the queer identity and represent it so respectfully on screen.

In truth, the only reason Yuri and Victor weren't slobbering all over each other from the start is due to TV censorship.
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>>151895858
Honestly, that's the funniest part about all this. Especially Tumblr thinking it was written for them.
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>>151895785
Osomatsu beat them both
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>>151895347
Wait, how is it ahead of SMAP now? SMAP sold over 100k.
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I never even watched the show but I called this mid season. I knew vol 1 was going to sell over 60k and would probably be the best selling show of the year. Now I'm here to laugh at all the retards who called me a fujo while posting smug love live girls screenshots.
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>>151896069
>the makers had taken such care to research the queer identity and represent it so respectfully on screen

Brb gotta find my sides out in space.
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>>151895347
and they had to use the most faggiest cover for the bd, kek.
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>>151896064
YoI may have been aimed at straight women, but there is definitely crossover appeal as well. Male fujo artists are into YoI as well.
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>>151893564
>800 euro wedding ring
>friendship
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>>151896064
Why do sjws care more about western faggots than japanese ones?
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>>151896233
>800 euro
>wedding ring
u wot
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>>151896233
>yuuri being a typical japanese retard
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>>151896258
Because most of them are Americans, some of them are European, and they're self-centered as fuck. They think many anime and manga are for and about them when they're by Japanese authors for a Japanese audience, and then they complain about cultural appropriation and racism. Don't bother trying to understand them too much.

>>151896192
You mean fudanshi? Which ones? I'm sure all the artists I've seen on twitter posting their baldfat doujin are women.
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>>151895475
How is ReLIFE fujobait? Nothing in there is gay. Fujobaits are usually shows that has lots of gay shipping potential.
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>>151895662
>than the entirety of anime based on actual BL games (DMMD, TNC.)
That's because nobody wanted to work on a homo game anime adaptation when they found out what the source material was. TnC completely burned because the director didn't want to keep working on it.

YoL is different because the director and writer were so focused on being able to do what they wanted, which was gay skating,
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>>151895927
I don't understand what you're trying to say anon. One of them was a woman when they were engaged. And that one died after they met again but now he was male. What do you mean "left together"? Alma died, where did they go? There was only Kanda left anyway, we can't even say "they".

Btw, I'm genuinely curious. I wonder if I didn't get that part.
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>>151896347
Gearous
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>>151896347
Gearous, KamabkoTr, icako_s. There's probably more than that, probably a lot of them don't disclose their gender.
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>>151896347
Gearous m8.
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>>151895072
>I'll laugh so hard if they fuck it up for season two and go the cliche route like every other fujo show. Not showing them kissing directly is the only reason why anyone liked this. Fujos love a good tease.

Are we talking about Yuri on Ice or Free?
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>>151896356
The dude is trolling, ignore him
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>>151894964
>>projecting your delusions this hard
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>>151896475
Is he gay or bi? I know fudanshi don't have to be gay but, I mean, if he isn't, wow.
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>>151895010
>The people who truly believe it isn't a pile of bait
What the fuck does bait even mean at this point
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>>151896455
>>151896461
>>151896475
I always forget that Gearous is a guy. But then again I assume people on the internet are female by default, don't ask me why.
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>>151893782
I know I'm slow on this, but holy fucking shit.
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>>151896276
>>yuuri being a typical japanese retard
So why didn't he buy him a pedant or something? A jacket?
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>>151896523
We don't know and I for one don't care, he's based as fuck
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>>151895475
Man. Calling that season a slaughter would be a complete underestimation. Love Live killed everyone, even the ones on their team like New Game which was a successful manga and should have sold 10K.

I can only imagine how fujos would twist their faces if their Free and YoI dared to stand against this behemoth
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>>151894964
>>151894632
>>151894705
>>151894705
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>>151896347
Also PenguinFrontier.
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>>151896507
>he's canonically in love with a woman
my sides
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>>151895821
Do you think the fujos watching yuri care about gay rights?
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>>151896555
He really is.
The fact that a guy drew this gets me so wet desu.
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>>151896564
At this point, I want YoI to face LL head on out of morbid curiosity. We have nothing to lose, but you - you have everything
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>>151896613
That's a rather sad thing to say
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>>151896633
Yeah? Where do you even think you are?
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>>151896567
>anime appealing to the west
Fucking god no. We already know how that's going to turn out from Japanese video games trying to appeal to the west.
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>>151896613
This is the single most self-deprecating post I've ever seen on this site
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>>151896564
yet ll isn't actually yuri
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>>151893201
>Combining BD and DVD sales to say your show couldn't even outsell FZ
Why?
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>>151896649
>YoI doesn't beat LL in sales
>no skin off our backs, we're happier than we've ever been
>YoI beats LL
>no point in suicide watch, you're all DoA
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>>151895896
>>151895915
>>151895943
>>151896064
I'm on your side retards,
YOI is successful because of straight women love it and paid for it, not because of SJWs.
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>>151896564
>>151896613
>tfw LL and YoI were my two favorite shows this year
Why can't we all get along?
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>>151895010
>>151896527
>Bait
Bait my favorite buzzword of 2016. Prove me wrong.
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>>151896702
yurifags are buttblasted that a homo show is called yuri
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>>151896702
You're cute anon.
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>>151896734
is that what this whole thing is about?
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>>151896587
You're talking about the Japanese fujos? I read an article on a blog about it, but I can't find the source anymore. Basically you have the fujos who only care about 2d gay guys, the ones who are so shameless they harass rl gay guys in the street or in gay bars so they can see the yaois irl, some are respectful and don't give their opinions, but that's about fujos in general, not just the ones who watch yoi.
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>>151896705
Reminder.
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>>151896613
>>151896687
That is like saying: If I drink bleach and die, I die. If I live, I get to make history.

You are correct, but no, there won't be a happy end
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>>151896642
Something Awful?
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>>151896734
>>151896750
What the fuck? I thought it all started because that LL faggot said YOI faggots "challenged LL"?
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>implying it will sell 10k
>35k
>w-well what about those 50k predictions uh? fujos fucking told!
>50k
>well it still didn't beat LL!
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>>151896693
Are there SJW in Japan? What are they like?
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>>151896750
No. As a yurifag, if more guys became gay, it would mean that girls would have less guys to date. It would only mean more yuri by proxy.
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>>151896750
Could be a factor, going by all the
>yuri on ice
>actually yaoi
posts where somehow they think they're the first to make this shitty joke.
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>>151896807
Battered wives
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I love that it went in guns blazing, aiming to trigger the fuck out of everyone before the gays even met by calling him and the entire show "Yuri".
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>>151896809
sounds beautiful. don't we all win then?
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>>151896809
I don't think you can apply that to a non-existent 2D population.
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>>151895072
>I'll laugh so hard if they fuck it up for season two and go the cliche route like every other fujo show.

I don't get why people say this.

A classic fujo shows is something like Free. The characters are friends and nothing happens.

The character in YoI are not friends, it's impossible to read it like that. The pandering and fanservice it's ingrained into the narrative like in shows like Bakemonogatari. More so, we passed the "nothing happens" threshold long ago. What's the definition of nothing happens? More shit happened in this than your favorite romance anime.
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>>151896807
Successful pervy mangaka.
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>>151896613
>We have nothing to lose but you have everything.
The fact that it sold so well was enough. Fujos rarely get good shut to begin with, so if it were to "lose" to LL, no big deal. I'm happy that it came as far as it did. You guys will always have your idols so don't even know why you feel the urge to feel smug.

It's like a rich guy bragging to a poor guy.
>You may finally have a nice X but dont forget that mine is encrusted with diamonds.
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>>151896779
Nobody dies if YoI doesn't outsell LL or Madoka. We're invested in our own show, we don't give a shit how much other popular shit sells.
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>>151896643
Well, so far it's only been a few major companies, but I assume most of the situation at hand has to do with reputations and PR.
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>>151896738
Y-you too.
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>>151896827
It het baited the first damn episode too. Hetfags have never gotten over it and won't move on.
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>>151896854
>pervy
But that's problematic, sex is problematic so they can't be SJW.
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>>151896807
Not really. I heard there was a small alt-right group, but that was from a few months ago.
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>>151894430

Even if it beats sunshine (it wont), the first LL is still at 100k.
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>>151896827
I don't get this meme, yuri and Yuuri use different characters. Japs weren't expecting anything.
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>>151896809
This is the way to world peace anon. Yurifags and fujoshi should be supporting each other.
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>>151896939
They write Yuuri as Yuri in our alphabet every time.
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>>151896874
Would you die if it did outsell Madoka tho?
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>>151893672
>俺がプロデューサーだったら、もう腐女子向けアニメしか作らんわ
> こんだけ売り上げ違うと商売上どうしようもない
> むしろ男向けの企画とか通らなくなるんじゃないか?
Nips know what's up.
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>>151896064
In Japan there's no debate about queer baiting and muh represenation. Nippon queers don't care about it and have far more positive opinions about BL and yaoi than western LGBT. From what I've seen Yoi reception was overwhelmingly positive
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>>151896980
Except they don't and it was in katana runes anyway.
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>>151896983
That would be an amazing feat, but I have nothing against Madoka or LL anyway. I'm happy with what it's sold. I was happy even when we thought it sold less. Loads of us enjoyed the show and the threads. Its success is a nice bonus.
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>>151896980
It's in katakana on covers I've seen.
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>>151897023
>マンコ大勝利wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>チンコ死亡wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>151897023
Big fujo-shows wave is coming.
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>>151897043
>>151897054
look at some twitter art
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>>151897033
I've seen people talk about how some Japanese people were upset that homophobia wasn't addressed in yoi because it's almost never addressed in general, but I've never seen actual Japanese people complain about it. Other than that I'm not too surprised they don't give a fuck or they like it.
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>>151897102
Kubo said she wanted a show full of love, so no homophobia in Yoi world. I'm not saying that's a great choice, but I understand that it had to be this way for the happy and positive atmosphere of the show.
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>>151897102
i've only ever seen western sjws say that. japanese homos have other shit to worry about than 2d homos.
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>>151897144
Me too, it would have felt out of place given that the show is supposed to be fun and comfy. And with only 12 episodes it would have been hard to bring that up in the first place, we already were supposed to get a scene with Yuiro sating on Welcome to the Madness and it's not even there.
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>Comics are already ruined by SJWs
>Jap games that are brought over to the west are getting censored and ruined by SJWs
>Anime is getting ruined by fujos
I'm done
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>>151897033
You're right about one thing, and that is not caring about anime/manga. The main consumer is fujoshi.
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>>151897264
Stop being a /co/ and localization pleb and you've already solved most of your issues.
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>>151897273
duh, but that doesn't mean nip homos don't like it too.
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>>151897144
>Kubo said she wanted a show full of love, so no homophobia
Why do people act like this is new when that's how the vast amount of fujoshit and BL plays out?
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>>151896807
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_feminists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_rights_activists_from_Japan

Not many but they exists.
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Yeah, gayshit sells to niche audience such as anime nerds. None of this can come even close to Kimi no Na Wa, which is a pure STRAIGHT romance. The problem with anime is that hetero romance tends to be incredibly boring and predictable so people will turn to gays.
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>>151897364
I wasn't talking about real activists, but about people who are crazy about preventing others to do what they want because it's "bad" and "problematic", even if it's actually harmless, and who don't actually help fight oppression. The ones who criticize others to feel superior to them, kind of like on tumblr or twitter.
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>>151897324
An insignificant percentage compared to women. I know tumblr likes to say "queerbait" but the show could give less of a shit about baiting real homos.
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>>151896920
The "small alt-right group" you're talking about is netouyo, which is basically like /pol/(political "activists" who don't do shit in real life though, just online). The Japanese society sees them as pathetic nerds but it's quite common among anime fans which is why unrealistic nationalistic stuff like GATE is so popular. Basically people who don't know anything about their own country's history because it's a taboo in Japanese education.
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>>151897439
why doesn't actual yuri/yaoi sell then?
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>>151897503
*could not.
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>>151897439
>The problem with anime is that hetero romance tends to be incredibly boring and predictable so people will turn to gays.

Gay isn't any less predictable and otaku just aren't into homo/yuri/shipping as much as fujoshi. They more worship the waifu than the pairing. Just look at Rem or Megumin's overwhelming popularity this year.
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>>151897518

Because yaoi is porn, which has a pretty niche audience.
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>>151897518
Wasn't doukyusei successfull?
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>>151897331
Um no? Do you even read BL? Homophobia is talked about a lot and most of the time the uke reminds the seme that they're both guys and they can't go on like this because society or their families and what's the point of two men dating. (One popular BL even says they can't marry so why date. I'm serious.)
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>>151895537
Should I feel anything about seeing two men getting engaged? Should I see that as good writing and characterization? Western media had controversial themes like that ages ago and there's gay couples in every TV show and film, it's not like I'm not used to it. Titles like that have actually changed the society and attitudes, your trashy fujobait anime will never be anything on that level.
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>>151897439
No. Your Name is shit and Yoi isn't. That's all. Apart from these two, good straight romance is still loved and shitty bl and yuri aren't.
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I'm happy for MAPPA, they deserve it after giving us the gift that is baldfat.
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>>151897632

All I can find is in its first week doukyuusei sold 18k total, not sure about total though.
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>>151897690
People can call yoi's romance boring and shallow all they want, I will always think pic related was the greatest romcom twist ever.
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I remember I wanted YOI to BTFO everything else that season purely out of spite but I didn't think it would actually happen. Feels good.
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>>151897624
bl isn't all porn
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>>151897748

Oh, only 20k total. But still, that's decent.
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>>151896673
I WANT TO FUCK KERRY
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>>151897814

Anon said yaoi, yaoi is porn.

BL on the other hand, is not all porn.
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>>151897518
Because the writing is shit 8/10 times, and the good stuff doesn't get enough advertisement or an anime.
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>>151897439
I enjoy any kind of romance, I don't really care if it's straight, bl or yuri (though I tend to value the gay ones a little more since they're more unusual).

The thing about Yuri on ice is that the characters are actually likable, unlike in most anime romance stories. I wouldn't say deep, there wasn't much time to develop that anyway in one season, but it has been a long time since an anime cast hasn't made me cringe.
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>>151895983
Is homophobia really that big of a deal in Nip land?

I've always thought East Asia is more open when it come to LGBT. I know when I used to live in Thailand people were pretty open to homosexual relationships.
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>sunshine could barely get to 50K ALL OF IT
>IN ONE (1) VOLUME YOI STRAIGHT UP MURDERS IT
IT'S OVER IDOLSHIT
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>>151897264
>Jap games that are brought over to the west are getting censored and ruined by SJWs
Debatable, but the most they've done is fucked with the localization, which in itself is an issue.

>Anime is getting ruined by fujos
I haven't heard of a fujo that was an SJW. Besides, most of them are just there to objectify (yes, I hate this word as much as everyone else does) gay men.
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>>151898076
>objectify
tumblr go
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>>151898050
Kind of. The majority live in a 1950s-esque mentality when it comes to LGBT stuff, at least from what I know in Japan.

Homosexuality does exist and is more or less accepted in certain places of East Asia like you mentioned, but I'll have to look into it more.
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>>151897632
There is a difference between BL and yaoi. BL is just romance between two guys whereas yaoi is porn.
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>>151895475
This has be the single most retarded post since the YoI sales came out. Orange? Mononokean? Zestiria?
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>>151898119
Although it is true, I didn't mean "objectify" in the Tumblr sense. I avoid that site like the plague.
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>>151898050
Not all countries are the same. In Japan they pretend gay people don't exist instead of actively shitting on them. Honestly it seems to suck not to be acknowledged and taken seriously, but it doesn't seem so bad compared to the countries where not being straight is illegal.
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>>151898013
>The thing about Yuri on ice is that the characters are actually likable, unlike in most anime romance stories. I wouldn't say deep, there wasn't much time to develop that anyway in one season, but it has been a long time since an anime cast hasn't made me cringe.
Pretty much this, the only reason I care about the romance are characters. I'm not even a fujo, this is my first homo anime.
>>
Thats a pretty big fuck up there oricon.
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>>151898198
I don't know some of those but I do know that /a/ calls anything with mostly female audience fujo. Or anything that has more homo fanart/doujin than there is hetero is automatically fujo in their eyes.
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/u/ blown the fuck out yet again.

This just proves literally no one in the world likes yuri, and more people are open to a good story with gay men than disgusting, soulless lesbians pandering to pedophiles. Madoka going full het will be the nail in the coffin.
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This is what happens when you put out a 50k vol1 over new years.
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>>151898266
They don't seem to understand that something can have a fujo audience without it being the intended audience. I know some female otaku don't like or even hate actual BL or gay stuff so it's inaccurate anyway.
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>>151898313
leave /u/ alone. the real enemy is hetshit.
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>>151898313
Calm down there, Chagen.
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>>151898337
They forgot to count retailers that shipped on the 27th and 28th because for some fucking reason people were shipping 3 days early.
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Yuri is straight
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>>151898313
/u/ is always wrong
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Who even cares about anime sales, One Piece sells a million copies in a few days
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>>151898198
Mononokean I could see maybe being called fujo and possibly Zestiria but definitely not Orange.
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>>151898313
/u/ isn't the bad guys here anon. They love their gay shit, we love our gay shit. It's fine. Problem is stubborn salty hetfags.
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>>151898417
One Piece appeals to everyone though.
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>>151898381
Yuri is pure degeneracy. Lesbians are evil and hated all around thd globe. That's why they're portrayed as monsters in anime. Yuri never sells, their fans are subhuman and deserve to suffer.

>>151898416
This. I want to see them burn when Madoka gets a boyfriend and kills Homura.
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>>151898208

Yeah, they mostly view being gay as a western thing. No one really cares because it's not a "real" thing to most of them.

So obviously for gay people here it's really shitty, as they feel compelled to hide it/marry and have babies anyway, as if you come out you're basically a freak and it's shameful.
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>>151898484
Are you a hetfag or a fujo?
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>>151898437
There is no such thing as a good yuri. Ot's pure degeneracy and lesbians are soulless bitches determined to commit evil in the name of lust.
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>>151898400
No, it's just Sara who has yellow fever. Piggy is only for Victor. Will Sara ever get Seung-Gil's dick someday?
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>>151894054
>>151894430
>Gay idols and gay figure skating is the future of anime
Good.
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>>151898512
probably just a retard
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>>151898579
Yuri is pure degeneracy with no redeeming points. The Love Lives are all straight and will get boyfriends. The only high selli g anime with lesbianism is Madoka and only the villain and most hated character Homura is gay.
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>>151898506
Isn't it a little bit easier nowadays for young people? Because since young Japanese people in general aren't really into dating and are called "herbivores", it seems easier to hide it without the pressure to date marry someone in order to seem straight. If that makes sense.
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>>151898506
I watched a documentary about this and nip parents did accept their gay kids there but they were really sad that they won't get grandchildren. Nips are weird man.
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>>151898484
Please leave, all gay is good
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>>151898628

Probably in like Tokyo and Osaka, but generally I don't think it's much different.
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>>151898635
Exactly. Both yaoi and /u/ haters can drink bleach.
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>>151897144
I think this isn't that bad of a decision since it shows how normal gay relationships can be. Showing a world without homophobia shows how weird it actually is.
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>>151898622
>homurahater here
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>>151897264
fuck off, /pol/
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>>151898632
All old people want grandchildren.

Although, in the modern age of invitro-fertilization, having gay kids wouldn't even be a problem anymore for grandparents.
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>>151898701
Well yes but gay people have to face homophobia too and it sometimes (or most of the time depending on where you live) becomes a big issue that comes with being gay. Like, you and your relationship is really normal but some people are assholes and some are violent assholes and you have to go through some ridiculous shit. It's our reality.
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>>151898773
Pretty much every other show or work of fiction that deals with homosexuality also deals with homophobia. Feel free to check those out. This show is about happy escapism.
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>>151893201
>50k

Wait, is this true? How do we know they didn't make a mistake again? Holy shit I really want to believe.