The OP is out. Get hyped for AOTY 2017.
Season 1 was carried by Kikuhiku and Sukeroku's relationship, and it seems like season 2 will be focusing on the present timeline.
I'm not a fan of Yotarou, he seems annoying. I can see this being a major letdown.
>Projecting your homosexual feelings onto an anime opening.
>if only the main characters had a relationship with less depth and emotional intensity, that'd make it better
>Get hyped for AOTY 2017.
I just want you to know that when every single thread for this while it airs is terrible and filled with shitposting, you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
What the fuck.
The threads for S1 were fine aside from some arguments about the subs during the first episode or two. The threads for S2 likely won't be, thanks to retards who keep talking it up and tossing around "IT WAS AOTY" in every OP, a guaranteed way to annoy people and invite argumentative contrarianism.
Really hoping it grows on me, my first impression is that it's not really good. But maybe that's because S1's was knock your socks off good.
I never really liked it because of how much the latter story of S1 turned out.
But knowing that it's actually a consequence of unreliable narrator, I'm not genuinely excited to see how the story went down.
I'm willing to judge its own merits seeing especially that its more a change in characters rather then some continuation of the story. I mean season 1 was pretty satisfying in general so I wouldn't blame anyone for not enjoying the follow up season as much.
Hulu? No it was CR. I remember it clearly because I was in the thread waiting for an official announcement of subs and at the last minute CR posted on Twitter they have the sub rights.
Well, I liked the first OP more, but this one isn't bad, either. Perhaps it's just a matter of habit and I will learn to love this too in time.
Anyway, hyped as fuck. I will miss Kiku and Sukeroku's relationship, but I believe that they can make this just as awesome as the first season.
I hope I'll actually start liking Yotaro, he was a little underwhelming in the last season, but I'm willing to assume that it's because he didn't have much screentime and that he will win me over just like Kiku and Sukeroku.
We are back in the present day. Yotaro decided to become the new Sukeroku at the end of S1. Meanwhile, Konatsu is knocked up by some guy and gives birth to an adorable son. Yotaro becomes the father of the said child. Some drama, along with Yotaro's old yakuza hijinks, ensue. Konatsu does rakugo too. Kiku is still haunted by the ghosts of Sukeroku and Miyokichi, and ominous shit surrounds him.
He dies happily at the end.
Remember when everyone was let down by the first season because it was all flashback? I'm sure it'll be like that. Either way, I rewatched the first episode and it wasn't as good as I'd remembered.
Yotaro and Konatsu get together and by the end they have a daughter.
How is he a cuck if Konatsu was not his love interest by then? Yotaro asked Konatsu if he could help her raising her son.
I remember some did not like, not everyone.
because it turned out that /pol/'s highly advanced social theories also map perfectly to what retarded rednecks in Cousinfuck, Alabama think.
Now shut up and let us talk about vaguely homo anime set in the 70s.
Some powerful imagery already in the OP. Since some faggot spoiled the series ending last season for me it actually made this OP more exciting
>Kiku-san committing sudoku
>Everyone reaching out to Kiku-san
>Ghosts of Miyokichi and Sukeroku still haunting him revealing that Bon sees himself nothing more than a dead man walking when we see his rib cage
>mentally retarded pizzagate which links magheritas with pedophiles
I have a very strong feeling this was engineered like those "iOS 7 waterproofing" and "microwave charging" to get people to do stupid things.
I had an orgasm listening to this
I know that fags
But for me Miyo have an exotic beauty so I just want to see her.
I'm very excited about the second season.
Too bad /a/ spoiled me on a big plot twist. That's why I don't come here to discuss shows I like anymore, unless I've read the source material first.
Did any of the Rakugofriends buy this? Depending on the contents, might consider it.
Excuse me, I'll have you know my boy has 3 projects planned for this year.
I'm equally hyped for LOGH but I don't think it'll be an AOTY container.
Rakugo set my expectation so high at the beginning of 2016. I hope they don't disappoint this time too.
Sorry anon, I have no idea. I haven't checked the manga scanlation project in months.
I only know him as the guy who directed Ping Pong which it was amazing and one of the best anime I have seen. What's his projects for this year?
>that bit where the sound keeps dropping out and the bell starts tolling
>Oshiyama's at least an interesting figure
That's the one thing I got from watching FliFla and following his stuff on twitter and whatnot, I really want him to succeed as a director.
Also here's to a next season of amazing background art.
I was meaning to ask about that, is that shot of the OP just the night sky leading up to the moon in the next one, or could it be a Galactic Railroad sort of thing? I don't know if the book is ingrained into the japanese culture enough for the starry road to be a clear reference.
>another Shiina Ringo and Hayashibara Megumi OP
Flashback is not the term I would use. It's heavily associated with blatant exposition and assumes the existence of a "real" story.
It was obviously intentional that the material was a story within a story about storytelling.
>another Shiina Ringo and Hayashibara Megumi OP
And it's fucking perfect. Megumi is best voice actress. From being sexy in Pokemon, to waifu tier in Slayers. Now she's making James Bond tier openings for Rakugo. When will she stop?
I'll admit that once the flashback started going on for longer than two episodes I got a little disappointed, but by then the show really started reaching its stride. The problem with a series doing that is that you kind have to have two expositions basically, which slows things down a lot initially.
I still haven't finished watching it because I am busy (I have like 5-6 other anime I am behind). Though, I like it till the episode I watched. It's nice to see how hard is to make dictonaries. I appreciate them more now and the effort the authors go through to create them.
I watched the live action recently and it was pretty cool, maybe better from a story telling point of view. But the anime did all the characters better (even though many complained that they dropped some relationships). Majime from the anime is definitely better (in a less of an autist way)
It suffered from quality in a few eps and the facial expressions could've definitely used a few more frames. Body language was better than your average school harem, but it tended to be too quality-y or stiff.
It had appropriate animation, don't get me wrong, but I don't see how it was 'impressive'.
i want to finish it. did it finish strong? or at least decent?
some parts sound disjointed to me. shiina does that sometimes and it didn't work out that well this time.
though it's still more interesting than other generic OPs so yeah
First few were then it kinda fell off.
Fune wo Amu had better facial expressions, I want to say body language as well but not really sure. It helps that character designer for both of those are same and they improved from Rakugo.
Anyone remember what S1 sold? I really like the author, hope she can get more stuff animated.
Itoshi no nekkoke anime when?
I've been prepared since then.
>sleeps around because her legal guardian is a mean autistic homo
>ends up with a bastard
>finds a cuck to raise him
>legal guardian decides not to kick her out
is there a thing she doesn't get away with?
It depends on who's directing, really. I've seen some people suggest that that's why Izubuchi left Yamato, which would definitely put it on my radar for potential AOTY status if it turns out to be true.
Everything. Especially Itoshi no Nekokke
I can't believe how much I missed the Ishida.
Yakumo is so elegant.
What a beautiful street light.
It's just as good as before.
Yotaro doing a summary of the first season was perfect.
>everybody thinks NANA is a josei
>NANA won the 2002 Shogakukan Manga Award for Shoujo manga
I was thinking about the same thing.
I was grinning like an idiot throughout this entire part, seems I really missed it.
>After Shouwa Genroku, I will finaly commit the Rakugo Shinjuu™
why are the best shows of the season always cuck shows?
I can't stress this enough: Ishida is GOAT.
Also this one moment was bloody amazing, alluding to the OP and Kikuhiko's Shinigami performance with the "Couldn't tell my feet from my head."
Fuck yes best day of the week is back. I've missed this show so much. Can't believe it's been a whole year since the first season.
What a good first episode.
So I haven't read the manga, and I've been wondering if the double suicide of the title only refers to Sukeroku and Miyokichi's deaths, or if there's gonna be another double suicide in the present-day too. I feel like there's going to be another one because it would be ceramic.
I loved that part when everything went upside down too.
Also this bit where Yotaro's reflection on the table was Yakumo was great.
Nana happens to be shoujo, you're right, but your argument is faulty because the Shogakukan shoujo award is actually open to both shoujo and josei. The real argument is to go to the fucking site for Nana's magazine Cookie, and quote where it says shoujo, which I'm too lazy to do right now.
Oh it's you again.
It's very easy to read Bon as repressed homosexual or struggling with his feelings, then again that would require understanding subtlety and nuances of writing people.
Goddamn I fucking adore this series, I'd forgotten how much until this episode reminded me.
>that fucking OST
>that voice acting
>that dynamic, theatrical direction
>beautiful, dignified GILF Yakumo
>cute and pure Yotaro
It hasn't lost a bit of charm after moving to the present. I wish we got to see a full performance but that's my only complaint.
Did the fall of rakugo happen in japan? I'd expect a country as traditional as Japan to cling to it strong. Even in west we still have classic theaters and that is possibly the most oldschool thing you can enjoy nowadays.
I've been looking forward to this. Love this anime.
Cause it's not a pandering show.
I mean, it's gay in a sense that their interaction are a lot of gay and Bon comes off as coded gay, but the anime is first and foremost a story.
There isn't even long term shipping potential.
I liked it a lot, it was a really laid back kind of show. Seeing Majime become the head of the project was nice, and honestly I found him and his wife fucking cute as shit, even if they were the more traditionally reserved kind of couple.
Quality alone is never what dictates popularity, but either way it's pretty much gone full het (gay subtext only) and the main ship ended tragically. Fujos don't deserve to be targeted for it's lack of popularity.
>marrying someone because they remind you of your dad
>Did they really have to go with the wife's son thing
Contrary to what /a/ believe, people in real life date even if they have children.
How do you think divorced people never remarry?
It's actually a filter to make people who can't appreciate good writing drop the series. All the drooling retards who cry about 'cucking' and can't muster up an ounce of maturity and empathy to enjoy a serious drama with flawed characters will be filtered out by that one storyline.
He made it clear he doesn't have romantic feelings for her. She is not pursuing him in order to get a baby daddy. He has little money or prospects, and isn't the 'beta bucks' figure necessary for your cuck meme to make sense here. He just wants to be a family, he's not thinking of it in terms of who got to stick his dick in Konatsu.
I don't mind the whole plot because I'm a fag and I don't self insert anime, plus I love when stories basically tell autist fuck off, but I wish it had been his son so we wouldn't have to endure a fucking season of cuck jokes.
If only she didn't sleep around and let yakuza bosses pour their seed into her.
>Does it really matter to you that Yotaro wants to do this?
Yeah it does. They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof. He never made a move on her and then just as she pops out a child he goes and asks her out? Even though he doesn't even *really* love her?
>He just wants to be a family
There's plenty of good women around. Why Konatsu over someone else?
Memes aside I don't understand his thinking.
>Why Konatsu over someone else?
Because they're already basically family, they lived together for ages. She is already part of his life and intimately connected to everything he cares about. And any person with a soul will want a baby to be taken care of properly.
It's fucking mind boggling that you cuckposters are so disconnected from human relationships that you can't fathom caring about someone for more reasons than the sexual exclusivity they can offer.
>They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof.
Yotaro moved out when he got the futatsume rank though.
>Why Konatsu over someone else?
Because he wants a big happy rakugo family before anything else and they already have a pretty close relationship, having lived together for so long.
>Yeah it does. They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof. He never made a move on her and then just as she pops out a child he goes and asks her out? Even though he doesn't even *really* love her?
He said he loves her. You can love someone without it being romantic you know and still want to make them happy as Yotaro said. And no, because you live with someone so many years under the same roof doesn't mean you are obligated to like each other and make pop out children. Yotaro still calls her "Nee-san" even now. And she obviously was with someone else as far as we know that did not want the child and left her. Yotaro asked her to help her out of his love for her and not pity.
What's hard to understand? He loves Konatsu and he will eventually start to like her in a romantic way, same goes for her. But before this happens he wants to help her raise her kid. Simple as that.
They should have released this in 2014. The cuck meme wasn't as strong. 2016 was a bitch if you like to recommend people with romances that aren't wish fulfillment.
>that aren't wish fulfillment
Anon, cuck memes are cancer and all, but there is a significant middle ground between "wish-fulfillment" and "marrying someone you don't have romantic feelings for."
>No, we just aren't cucks. If you're OK with raising your wife's son - well, that is for you to decide. But please, don't spread your sickening fetish on the other people.
Given the divorced rate in the US, I think most people are.
I'm glad I didn't rewatch S1 before the new one came out so that hazy memories or nostalgia wouldn't cloud my first impression. With this first episode I remembered what I loved the most about this series: characters may be talking about boring stuff or even in very abstract terms of daily occurrences or dreams, but every feeling comes across no matter how silly the whole conversation may be.
Yeah, other anime also have 'loud' voice acting, too bad they don't get the God tier OST nor the great visuals to make me care about them. Every frame has so much harmony and texture that the difference with other shows is jarring.
Thank you based DEEN. The acting and the direction are flawless.
>"marrying someone you don't have romantic feelings for."
Oh anon, I bet you don't know why people were getting married a few decades ago. Most of them felt nothing, especially romantic love. It was all about having children and more hands to work. If your husband or wife died, your relatives made you marry someone else. It was very rare to fall in love with your partner.
And again, he loves her, wants to help her and make her happy. Why can't they marry for that reason even if they don't love each other in a romantic way for now?
I don't think it's a matter of wish fulfillment. Say what you will, but getting an arrangement like that is unusual to put it generously. The "cuck meme" has always been strong. No one really wants stepkids unless they're sterile or something.
That said, people who bitch about this particular instance are kind of fucking stupid. If it's just some dumb whore with nothing to her but the ability to manipulate men, then yeah, I wouldn't fucking do it for her either. If it's a woman who shares a passion with you and is serious about it? Someone close to you? Someone who isn't just an all around dunce with no sense of pride? I'd do it then put two more in her.
This is not what I'm saying.
In real life, people divorced and marry to people with children all the times.
No one lives his life thinking if the girl is pure or not.
Rakugo is a clear cut down to earth "fuck your delusion" story, S1 featured a Geisha who tried to seduce the main character, failed and used his best friend as a rebount, it's not interested in making you feel good because you self-insert at the main character and think every woman vagina should be his.
> Oh anon, I bet you don't know why people were getting married a few decades ago.
What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
>And again, he loves her, wants to help her and make her happy. Why can't they marry for that reason even if they don't love each other in a romantic way for now?
They can, it's not like I have any power to stop them. People can also get married for tax purposes or green cards or whatever. Again, this has nothing to do with what I said. Just stop pretending there's some binary between wish-fulfillment romance and non-romantic "romance."
>I don't think it's a matter of wish fulfillment. Say what you will, but getting an arrangement like that is unusual to put it generously. The "cuck meme" has always been strong. No one really wants stepkids unless they're sterile or something.
People even call Erased cuckoldy. And that one didn't have kids a featured a 10 years old.
I wish this thread was dead again.
Show's looking bright though, a little slow for a first episode, but so was S1's first episode (the non OVA 2h one that is) and took about 3 episodes to really kick off into my AOTY. Seems that Ep.2 is going to have a lot of stuff happen instead of just building a foundation to go off like this episode did.
Is the ED out yet? Can't wait to get my hands on S2's OST.
We're reaching levels of kino that shouldn't even be possible.
I haven't watched erased, but I imagine that people are kinda getting fed up with love triangles. It's cheap drama no one really feels moved by, and is downright offensive and adolescent in some cases (Re: Zero).
That's why I'm glad I'm a fag. No self insertion so I don't care who women chose to love. Obvious cheating is bad but who gives a fuck with who people end with when the are not in a relationship?
Didn't even get mad about the ending of stuff like FC or Princess Tutu.
>two 10 year olds possibly have a semi crush on each other (no confession, no relationship, nothing solid because they were kids)
>the boy saves the girl although she is unaware of it, and goes into a coma as a result
>10 years later he wakes up and the girl is married with a kid
>he cries tears of happiness and ends up getting his own gf
>/a/ is enraged because a child didn't wait 10 years for a boy she was friends with to come out of a coma so they could get married
It's so absurd in so many ways.
>Didn't even get mad about the ending of stuff like FC or Princess Tutu.
I don't usually give a fuck about hetshit but those really hurt. They're good series and the romance wasn't cheap wish fulfillment for straight male otaku. Princess Tutu was supposed to be a happy end but I can't see a legit future between
a human and a fucking duck, what happens if Fakir ever wants to get married? He'll bring his wife home to meet his pet duck?
Fantastic Children was the first and only time I ever felt truly NTR'd by a series. It was painful.
no you see, if you do something nice for a girl that means she belongs to you forever
these are guys that crypost on /r9k/ when a girl they buy a coffee doesn't end up marrying them, how do you think they'd react when a guy saves a girl's life
Well, Boku Dake was one year ago, so there's that. There was also the /tv/ edits, "IT'S NOT FAIR" meme stuff, and general obvious spam, none of which are usually the sign of genuine emotion.
>Fantastic Children was the first and only time I ever felt truly NTR'd by a series. It was painful.
Kek I love the bait switch in FC. Because people were fine with it since it was their self-insert only when
it's revealed the protagonist is not the reincarnation of the dude the female protagonist was waiting for but the dude who killed them.
As for Tutu I saw people getting mad that
Ahiru didn't end up with Mytho which was bullshit. I don't have issue with her staying as duck because she is a duck.
Wait, people were mad about
Ahiru and Mytho not getting together? I assumed it was because she turned back into a duck. I guess I really can't follow hetfag logic.
FC was particularly miserable because
not only is the guy NTR'd in his original reincarnation, he's NTR'd again after that, and he doesn't even have the moral highground because he's a fucking murderer in a past life. His future self was innocent so it felt like he didn't deserve it.It was a pretty fucking amazing plot twist though.
>Wait, people were mad about
Ahiru and Mytho not getting together? I assumed it was because she turned back into a duck. I guess I really can't follow hetfag logic.
Yes, people hated it because also didn't like Rue.
They expected the Protagonist and the man of her dream to end up together. So when she gets duck'ed and up with Fakyr is seen as a "downgrade".
Damn, that's bizarre. Ahiru's dream man was basically an empty shell for the time she was infatuated with him. I didn't like Fakir at first but he ended up being a complete and utter best.
I actually wanted him and Mytho together, kek. The sexual tension was off the charts for a while there.
>Well, Boku Dake was one year ago, so there's that. There was also the /tv/ edits, "IT'S NOT FAIR" meme stuff, and general obvious spam, none of which are usually the sign of genuine emotion.
I don't know, I still see people calling Kayo a slut nowadays.
I do agree that a lot of people were bandwagoned, but let's not pretend a lot of people didn't self insert as Satoru and wanted to end up as Kayo.
>Escaped from the no-homo discussion of YoI from last season
>Next season is 12 episodes of Rakugo cuck discussion
This is a nightmare.
Missing parts of s1ep1
Scene 1 - Konatsu tries to convince Yotaro to drop the apprenticeship, but he tells her that he's where he wants to be.
Scene 2 - Yakumo and Yotaro go shopping for Yotaro's kimono.
Scene 3 - Yotaro meets the eccentric theatre critic Amaken.
Scene 4 - Amaken pries into the nature of Yotaro and Yakumo's relationship, is shocked to hear of the apprenticeship.
Scene 5 - Yotaro experiences the hardships of being a zenza.
Scene 6 - Konatsu tries to awaken a sleeping Yotaro, finds out he has a koi fish back tattoo. He says it's no secret, he never committed to being a gangster and everyone at the theatre accepts him regardless of his past mistakes.
Scene 7 - Extended patio scene: Konatsu reminisces about her father's rakugo, Yotaro's boss reveals what he wanted him to do for him.
Scene 8 - Extended Dekigokoro performance: Yakumo shows pride for Yotaro, Yotaro's performance goes on a bit longer, it's revealed that Yakumo has a contact in the mob and will free Yotaro of his past obligations.
Scene 9 - Yakumo tells Yotaro they're going to Kyoto.
Scene 10 - Yakumo introduces Yotaro to his elderly rakugo companion, Bansai, and his son/apprentice, Mangetsu. Yakumo and Bansai perform as Mangetsu and Yotaro speak.
Scene 11 - Konatsu and Matsuda look at an old photo album of Sukeroku and Yakumo.
Scene 12 - Yakumo speaks to Mangetsu on the inevitability of death, how rakugo, just like Bansai, is at the twilight of its life.
Scene 13 - Yotaro looks for Sukeroku albums, to no avail.
Scene 14 - Yotaro finds Sukeroku recordings at the house, Yakumo visits the kabuki theatre he's going to have his recital in and sees the spectre of Sukeroku.
Scene 15 - Yakumo meets Konatsu at her workplace, the two argue about whether or not Konatsu is capable of carrying Sukeroku's legacy, or if Yakumo would allow her to.
Scene 16 - Extended Kajikawaza performance: Mangetsu berates Yotaro on his blatant mimicry, Yakumo's performance goes on a bit longer.
- Begins at 6:13 in the broadcast version
- Konatsu calls Yotaro over from the living room, asking him to come speak to her one-on-one. Matsuda wishes him good luck.
- Konatsu tells Yotaro to just give up on the apprenticeship. Flustered, Yotaro asks her why while addressing her as "Ane-go" (Big Sis, yakuza slang), which she takes direct offense from asserting that she's not a criminal and shouldn't be addressed that way. Yotaro exclaims that he isn't a criminal either, so it's okay.
- Konatsu asks how Yotaro ended up in jail if he isn't a criminal, to which he doesn't have an answer. She tells him he really is a "Yotarou", then explaining that a Yotaro is rakugo slang for a dimwitted man that shows up in a story to cause a mess.
- Konatsu returns to the point, that Yotaro should be weary because Yakumo has no intention of passing off his craft. According to her, he intends to commit a lovers suicide with rakugo ("Rakugo Shinjuu"). He is the last of the great masters, and he hasn't taken up an apprentice in so many years because he intends to remain the last.
- Konatsu explains that the popularization of alternate forms of media, namely television and manzai, are the cause of the uncertainty around rakugo's future and, ultimately, Yakumo's weariness to keep it alive. Konatsu says that Yakumo's intention to take rakugo with him to the grave is selfish, and his selfishness is what she hates about him.
- Yotaro offers a rebuttal, saying that, to him, all of that is too complicated. He grew up listening to Rakugo with his father and has been a fan of it since he was younger. If people like him and Konatsu still appreciate rakugo, then there's hope for future generations. He learns that Konatsu performs rakugo herself, and that makes him ecstatic.
- The scene ends with the two of them hearing the sound of music coming from another room. Yotaro asks Konatsu about it, she tells him it's Yakumo practicing the shamisen, a usual nightly activity for him. Yotaro is filled with happiness, saying that living in the house is to be engulfed in Yakumo's artistry.
- Yotaro runs in from offscreen wearing a green kimono, happy as can be. Yakumo smiles as he sees him with the fabric shop owner complimenting Yotaro for looking so dashing.
- Yotaro asks Yakumo if it's okay to accept such nice clothes as Yakumo fixes his obi. Yakumo tells him that he used to fix up the clothes for a friend of his so he needn't worry. Yotaro gleefully responds by reciting the opening lines to the rakugo "Shinigami", which pisses Yakumo off, who tells him not to embarass him like that.
- It then cuts to both of them walking down the street, Yotaro lugging a whole bunch of supplies as Yakumo tells him they need to visit the accessory shop next. Yakumo praises Yotaro's obedience and muses on whether or not he should have taken an apprentice earlier.
- Yakumo and Yotaro are greeted at the theater by a seemingly young, curly haired dandy, who Yakumo promptly ignores. The man claims to know Yakumo for quite some time, expressing his happiness in seeing him grow to be such a big name in rakugo, Yakumo tells him to fuck off with his usual sexy old man eyes. The young dandy is paralyzed by Yakumo's raw intensity and crumples on the floor with a smile on his face.
- Yotaro asks who that was. Yakumo replies that he's the theater critic Amaken, and that Yotaro should weary of him. (Observant viewers will recognize him as the son of the previous Amaken, showing up with his father in episode 9).
- Amaken pulls Yotaro back into the other room after Yakumo tells him he'll be performing "Shinigami". Amaken smacks Yotaro in the face with his sensu, asking him what on earth would cause Yakumo to give someone like him special treatment.
- Yotaro claims to be Yakumo's apprentice, causing Amaken to lose it. Amaken claims that Yakumo would never take an apprentice ever, and that his is the real deal. According to him there's debate between whether or not Sukeroku was the last great master, but he just doesn't see it.
- The two then go to watch Yakumo's performance, with Amaken claiming great excitement over seeing the last great master perform.
- Yotaro gives a performance to a mostly empty theatre, which causes him to feel depressed and frustrated.
- Backstage, Yotaro is tending to the other rakugo masters. He's give a tray and told to provide tea for master Nekosuke, who comments on how nice it is that someone so young should be trying to enter the field.
- Matsuda finds Yotaro asleep on Yakumo's lap. Yakumo tells him that Yotaro requested to learn some more scripts, so when Yakumo grew tired of it he lulled him to sleep by cleaning out his ears, a trick he learned for quieting annoying men. Konatsu overhears from the doorway and stomps off.
- Later, Konatsu comes to check up on Yotaro to find him still sprawled on the patio. She kicks him to try and get him up and then tries to lift him from his collar. Doing so reveals his back, showing off the outline of a full-back koi fish tattoo.
- Konatsu, furious, forces him to wake up and explain the meaning of it, since he claimed not to be a criminal (full-back koi tattoos are common among yakuza). Yotaro shows her the whole tattoo, claiming that he only ever got the outline because getting the full thing would hurt too much. He always gave up on everything halfway so he was only ever half a criminal. Konatsu smacks him with her purse for the way he phrased that.
- Yotaro explains that he went to prison after taking the blame for someone else's crime, and he took advantage of that moment to leave the gang for good. He explains that his carefree ways and natural stupidity led him to be scouted by gangsters, so by the time he realized what position he was in it was already too late.
- Konatsu tells him to keep it quiet from everyone else, but to her surprise Yotaro claims that everyone in the theatre already knows about it. It's a small community so everyone knows everything about it, and because of that it's a warm place where they'll accept anyone, including an idiot like him. Konatsu says she wishes she knew what that was like, being a woman in that era and in that craft means she doesn't have those kinds of experiences.
- Yotaro asks if she reconciled with Yakumo, which causes Konatsu to hit him with her purse again. He says he'll forget everything if she keeps thwacking him, which gets Konatsu to tell him that she'll help him memorize scripts if that's what he needs. They spend the rest of the night together, Konatsu teaching him all kinds of stories, while Yakumo listens in from the second story.
- The scene where Yotaro practices with Konatsu on the patio and is then interrupted by his former boss has been modified in the extended version https://my.mixtape.moe/fyfayl.webm
there's a moment where Konatsu, having complained about Yotaro's inability to draw audiences, recalls the performances of her father, who she claims would captivate his audiences through his comedic timing and strong presence.
- When Yotaro's former boss is speaking to him about wanting a job, an additional line is included that explains the mission Yotaro can't refuse. He asks him to go back to jail and come back for him.
- The scene where Yotaro performs Dekigokoro has been modified in the extended version (18:01-29:02 in the broadcast version, 29:25-43:36 on disc). - https://my.mixtape.moe/ixcvcr.webm
- There are two small scenes. The first shows Yotaro working backstage as he plays the drum and assists the shamisen players for the previous performers. Immediately after, Yakumo and Yotaro's old boss are approached by the theatre owner in their seats, asking why a rakugo master such as Yakumo is sitting in that night. He says he is watching his apprentice, and tells the owner to pay close attention to Yotaro who he promises will be interesting.
- Yotaro's performance is unabridged, presumably Dekigokoro in full, which runs from 30:42 to 42:50 (has a runtime difference of 2:21). Fans of the rakugo component should definitely check it out, it's an awesome performance and the details here and there really make it even better.
- There's a small bit added on to the final moments of the scene. Yakumo reveals he knows the boss of Yotaro's boss and claims he can help get him out of the gang, which overjoys Yotaro.
- Yakumo tells Yotaro that the two will be going over to Kyoto the following day. Every summer Yakumo performs with a colleague, Bansai, in a duo show. Bansai, however, has fallen ill, but regardless he still wants to meet Yotaro out of curiosity to who Yakumo would accept as an apprentice. Yotaro is excited because he's never traveled, which amuses Yakumo and causes him to tease him.
- Yakumo and Yotaro arrive at Kyoto and are greeted by a snazzy looking young man (that somewhat resembles a younger Yakumo). He is introduced as Mangetsu, son and apprentice to Bansai.
- In the car, Yotaro gazes out the window excitedly. Mangetsu tells Yakumo that his father was excited to see him as he cherishes him as an old friend, to which Yakumo replies that he was startled to hear of Bansai's hospitalization. Mangetsu tells him that if anyone was surprised it was Bansai, not of the hospitalization but to have heard that Yakumo had found an apprentice. Yakumo claims that Yotaro is more like a puppy than an apprentice. Mangetsu asks if he can someday get a lesson from Yakumo, to which Yakumo says maybe.
- The three arrive and are greeted by Bansai, who seems to be well. Bansai and Yotaro have a moment, wherein he says that if anything happens with the gloomy Yakumo he would love to take him aboard as his own apprentice.
I want to make Konatsu a mom- oh wait...
So who's the father? And does he ever come back? I remember seeing a spoiler page where some guy is beating the shit out of Yotaro while Konatsu is blushing. What the fuck was that about?
- Indoors and much later, Yotaro gazes upon the kouza in the theatre, specifically at the painting behind it. Mangetsu approaches him and tells him it's an Okyo painting, something Bansai keeps there as a favor to Yakumo. He asks Yotaro to follow him to another room, as there are things he'd like to discuss with him, which he skeptically accepts.
- Mangetsu, who looks dashing in his pink kimono, tells Yotaro that he's asked to be Yakumo's apprentice many times but was rejected each time, musing to himself what Yotaro has that he lacks. Mangetsu asks about Konatsu, to Yotaro's surprise, but Mangetsu affirms with him that the two have met before and that Konatsu is beloved as Sukeroku's only child. Mangetsu tells him he's jealous, which Yotaro cockily accepts to Mangetsu's amusement.
- Yakumo enters the room and calls the two out to watch him perform. He then performs the rakugo "Okyo's Ghost" which is a ghost story surrounding the painting behind him. Meanwhile, Mangetsu commentates on why Yakumo's performance of the rakugo is so chilling and beautiful as Yotaro continues to be impressed by his master's work. An interesting note is how Mangetsu applauds the way Yakumo channels a type of feminity with his gender performances that feel authentic, which becomes a major theme in the flashback arc.
- After Yakumo finishes, he hands the stage to Bansai. Yakumo asks Yotaro to step aside so that he can sit as close as possible while backstage, so that he may get the best seat to watch Bansai perform. Yotaro smiles on, saying that Yakumo looks childlike in the way he's captivated by Bansai.
- Konatsu is shown looking through a book back at home. Matsuda approaches her and asks what she's doing, to which she replies she's looking at photos of her father. Matsuda feels a sense of nostalgia as they look on, recalling how the first picture (episode 2) was taken back at the family home of the seventh generation Yakumo. He recalls their old names, Kikuhiko and Hatsuta.
- Konatsu flips to another photograph and asks about it, turning to the photo of her father and the eigth generation Yakumo after their performance of the play Shika-Shibai (episode 5). Konatsu mentions how they were always together in photos, and asks if the two were close. Matsuda says close is an understatement, the two were the best of friends from the very beginning to the very end. Konatsu remarks how cruel fate is, how despite being so close one is famous while the other is long dead. She tells Matsuda that she believes her father may have been the one meant to be the eighth generation Yakumo, but Matsuda tells her to leave the past alone.
- After the performances, Yakumo and Mangetsu are drinking outside on the balcony of the theatre. Mangetsu asks why Yakumo looks upset, he tells him he's noticing that Bansai is doing worse with the days. The two discuss his failing health, and Yakumo laments that this might be the last year he'll be able to perform next to him. At some point in our lives we will end up like Bansai, unable to speak loudly or even sit without growing tired.
- In a beautiful but heart wretching scene, Yakumo recalls the tragedy of rakugo. To him, the loss of even a single performer is immeasurable, everyone has their own style, their own voice, to where a single death is a dagger to the heart of the whole medium. As time flows, people pass on, their traditions, their values, even the towns where their honed their craft will be lost. Being a rakugo performer no longer means performing rakugo, it's to try to fight the inevitability of time by fighting the dying of the art. Abandoning it will be for the best.
- The scene shifts to Yotaro, who is playing with fireworks while keeping Bansai company. Bansai remarks that Yotaro reminds him of Sukeroku, whose daughter has been in Yakumo's care. He wonders how the three will do moving forward.
- Yotaro and Yakumo return home from the trip, with Yotaro being in particularly high spirits. He tells Yakumo he needs to practice, so he'll be heading out.
- The scene shifts to Yotaro at a record store. He approaches the cashier with some records of Sukeroku's performances, but she tells him that they don't have any more of his works in their store.
- Yotaro sits with Nekosuke and some of the other masters behind the stage at the theatre. All of them begin discussing Sukeroku at Yotaro's behest, singing his praises. Yotaro is curious about hearing more of his performances but can't find his works. The other masters suggest he look through Yakumo's personal collection, as they're sure Yakumo held onto them.
- At home, Yotaro finds a large assortment of recorded Sukeroku performances in the closet. He's impressed by Yakumo's diligence in keeping them and muses that he must've loved the way he performed. He then questions where Yakumo is, since he hasn't seen him at home.
- The scene shifts to Yakumo who is standing on stage in an empty theatre. Matsuda remarks to Yakumo that being at the theatre feels nostalgic, recalling that they were there once to watch a kabuki with Sukeroku (episode 5, I believe). Yakumo recalls it too, as well as Sukeroku's claims that one day he would perform on that stage. Matsuda is elated at the thought that, in a week, Yakumo will perform the first rakugo performance on that theatre. Yakumo, however, muses that while it might be the first, it also might very well be the last.
- Yakumo tells Matsuda that his rakugo simply isn't suited for such a big stage. The stage demands a rakugo for the people, something that entertains and elates, something like the type of rakugo only Sukeroku could pull off. Matsuda leaves as Yakumo goes onto his knees. Yakumo wonders how Sukeroku would have handled those pressures, as the spectre of Sukeroku confronts him with a smile. Yakumo asks him to stop smirking and say something, but as the camera pans back the ghost is no longer there.
How did you forget this scene.
No, he wouldn't, what the fuck?
Not to mention Konatsu wouldn't and she was living away from homo anyway.
Get away you usagi dropped rejects.
Should have made Yotaro gay. Would have killed this retard cuck discussion.
- Konatsu is working in the kitchen of a restaurant, when the manager tells her to bring a tray to one of the rooms as a request from the customer sitting there. She thinks it's probably just some old pervert, when she opens the door the find Yakumo sitting at a table. She's visibly angry at him, yet he smugly tells her to take a seat with him and that he already spoke to her employer about taking some of her time.
- Yakumo asks her why she's been snooping around, trying to find out what happened with him and her father. She tells him she wants revenge, and will look for any evidence to ruin him. He tells her that if she truly thinks he killed Sukeroku then that's fine, because it's mostly true
- He asks her to kill him if she so wishes, but the only thing he will not ever let her do is pursue rakugo. She asks him why, to which he replies that it's just impossible: women are not suited for it and even if one is so skilled as to do well in it she will be stopped or discriminated against until she cannot do it anymore. He adds that a woman in love is a destructive force.
- Konatsu tells Yakumo that she's not just studying Rakugo to be a nuisance or to play around, she wants to preserve the memory and style of her father and to pursue the craft she loves. He tells her that her eyes remind him of some person (try to guess who...). He asks why she had to have been born a woman, which she says she asks herself every day of her life. (;_;)
- In an emotional scene, Yakumo leans and begins to perform "Nozarashi", filled with just as much energy and charisma as her father. As she watches him perform, Konatsu envisions her father through his mannerisms and his voice, bringing her to tears. Yakumo tells her that her father's rakugo lives in his heart, as it lives on in hers. His is a spirit that will not be lost to time.
- The scene with Yakumo's recital has been modified in the extended version (33:47-41:11 in the broadcast version, 1:06:03-114:11 on disc). - https://my.mixtape.moe/nikded.webm
- There is a small scene that happens at 35:58 in the broadcast version, 1:08:15 on disc (runtime: 0:39). After failing to impress the audience with his performance, Yotaro is met by Mangetsu as he walks backstage. Mangetsu tells him that he disgraced Yakumo and he isn't fit to be called his apprentice. Yotaro looks dejected and a bit terrified.
- Yakumo's performance of "Kajikawaza" is unabridged, with an additional line and visual added in before Yotaro's snores become audible.
- At 42:46 in the broadcast version, 1:15:44 on disc, there's a small sequence added in to show Yotaro walking back home in the snow, chasing a spectre of Yakumo. After that, the final scene plays out exactly the same in both versions.
BONUS: as far as I was able to tell, there was only one more episode to feature a noticeable difference between its Blu-ray edition and the broadcast release, and that was episode 12. The extended version of episode 12 features both its OP and ED, both of which were absent in the broadcast edition, as well as an extended version of Sukeroku's "Shibahama" rakugo. On disc, the rakugo ran from 7:54 to 17:32 (9:38), while the broadcast version ran from 6:23 to 15:09 (8:46), a 0:52 difference. Highly recommended to check out the full version if you are interested in the rakugo aspect of the series, the little details really make it have that much more of an emotional impact
They hairs were so much better, what a tragedy!
I think song-wise, the first Rakugo OP has the second one beat, but the visuals from a CLEAR understanding that Rakugo sold, they went clear out the window with the second one. Which is what I found better visually.
But that's not to take away what the first OP had, there's clever merits tied to the first one. My favorite quirk of that first OP would be the timing of the tick of a grandfather clock to the slide switching of projected backgrounds, which in itself, give an example to the performance of a Rakugo performer and ties to Yakumo himself as it edges him ever closer to bitter embrace of death.
I don't know why I love that idea so much, maybe it's because how it plays the fact it's an OP and doesn't tract away from the viewer for being one.
I love Kiku, but let's be honest, he's kinda cunty.
I haven't read ahead so I'm not sure it's really a spoiler. The flashes in ep 1 to the event are drastically different from what's shown in ep 12 and, again, Yakumo's telling a story to Konatsu no less. He has a vested interest in framing it a certain way.
>Holy shit they fucked themselves, even if whats his face marries her, it'll still be "My wifes son" AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, rakugo officially an anime for hipsters and cucks.
Does it mean we won't get /pol/ tards posts anymore?
I'm OK with being a cuck, I'm gay anyway so no wife son for me.
They really should have made him gay, this is simply sad.
>His clingy as shit, desperately trying to please her as she ignores him.
>An absolute betacuck by definition.
>He is asian to top it off.
Even as a gay man i'm sure you somewhere deep down you still feel bad for him, desperately trying to win the affection of some women with a baby.
It's just sad to look at honestly, all memes aside.
Whatever floats your boat anon. I would never willingly raise another man's son while trying to win the affection of the mother.
But if you are ok with being a cuck then more power to you. It's just that most normal people would have second thoughts about these things.
Just knowing, someone nutted in your wife and now you're raising the child. Just cause you're gay doesn't mean you can't comprehend how that would make some one feel.
This dude is such a cuck, that he is excited about it, truly truly sad. He literally begged to raise another mans son.
>Just knowing, someone nutted in your wife and now you're raising the child. Just cause you're gay doesn't mean you can't comprehend how that would make some one feel.
But she's not his wife.
Why would I give a fuck about the fact she had a child?
>mfw /pol/ fags are a regular occurrence in rakugo threads for the rest of the cour
Fuck this earth
/pol/ shit is literally going to be in every thread for every show, they don't actually have to bother watching anything since they only live for shitposting
I'd reckon even LWA threads will be filled with Duerte posting the instant they can get a screenshot of Sucy admitting she's a flip
People hating things you love is a great way to build a stronger affection for that thing. Having to constantly defend something you love usually means that you have to explain all the reasons you love it, and when doing so you're constantly reminded of why you love the thing. It just makes your love for the thing people hate feel more special.
trust me on this one
If Rakugo was a bad show it would die on its own from the lack of people willing to defend it.