The OP is out. Get hyped for AOTY 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGx7u3hMCOA&app=desktop
Bravo Deen
>>151891920
>yaoi pandering
Between who, the dead guy and the elderly man?
I enjoyed S1 and the gay degree was just okay, but I wonder will it go more gay or more rakugo?
I'm scared
Season 1 was carried by Kikuhiku and Sukeroku's relationship, and it seems like season 2 will be focusing on the present timeline.
I'm not a fan of Yotarou, he seems annoying. I can see this being a major letdown.
>>151891951
dunno, for me S1 was just a little bit too much gay, if they toned that shit down just a little bit it would have been 2016 aoty
>>151891920
>Projecting your homosexual feelings onto an anime opening.
>>151891989
there was barely anything gay about it what the fuck are you talking about
>>151891965
I can't imagine loving it as much as S1 because their relationship was a big draw, but I don't think it'll be a let down.
Fuck that's awesome.
>>151891965
Present timeline is fine too, I enjoyed the manga.
>>151891989
>if only the main characters had a relationship with less depth and emotional intensity, that'd make it better
>>151891724
Why did I even finish the first one?
I guess this is why the threads are dead because people who honestly liked this shit are a few as it should be.
>>151891724
Gettin' maybe a little too artsy. I mean damn, OPs are just supposed to fun and inviting, not wrought with metaphors and symbolism.
>>151891724
Oh no, Kiku's totally going to die.
IS THAT KONATSU'S BOY?
>>151891724
>Get hyped for AOTY 2017.
I just want you to know that when every single thread for this while it airs is terrible and filled with shitposting, you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
>That ending.
What the fuck.
>>151892151
>every single thread for this while it airs is terrible and filled with shitposting
But that's valid for almost every show, except for the ones that no one watches.
>>151892151
>filled with shitposting
It'll be lucky to get any attention at all considering the other shows that are airing this season.
>>151892137
Yes.
>>151892173
Read the manga before getting spoiled.
>>151892181
The threads for S1 were fine aside from some arguments about the subs during the first episode or two. The threads for S2 likely won't be, thanks to retards who keep talking it up and tossing around "IT WAS AOTY" in every OP, a guaranteed way to annoy people and invite argumentative contrarianism.
There was literally nothing gay about season one. You guys are delusional.
>>151891920
did you even watch the first season?
>>151892277
Male relationships are rarely that intimate, so it's not very surprising people would think it's gay.
>>151891724
Really hoping it grows on me, my first impression is that it's not really good. But maybe that's because S1's was knock your socks off good.
>>151892246
It was genuinely my AOTY but I'll refrain from voicing my opinions if that'll keep the shitposters away.
>>151892387
S1's OP was god-tier, but I somehow feel that this song fits the second half of the story and I already like it.
fuck I didn't like it
I never really liked it because of how much the latter story of S1 turned out.
But knowing that it's actually a consequence of unreliable narrator, I'm not genuinely excited to see how the story went down.
so what about the subs? last time I checked no one has announced they'd be simulcasting it yet
>>151891724
Great OP song. I really like it.
>>151892666
CR will most likely announce it today after the episode airs. They did the same last year too.
>>151892661
>unreliable narrator
I got heavily spoiled just two days and it gave me hype for the second season.
>>151891989
Fuck right off.
>>151892387
I'm willing to judge its own merits seeing especially that its more a change in characters rather then some continuation of the story. I mean season 1 was pretty satisfying in general so I wouldn't blame anyone for not enjoying the follow up season as much.
>>151892792
Wait, I thought Hulu did it last year?
>>151893466
Hulu? No it was CR. I remember it clearly because I was in the thread waiting for an official announcement of subs and at the last minute CR posted on Twitter they have the sub rights.
>>151891724
Oh shit, that OP is so pensive. I'm already hyped for the massive amounts of DRAï¼ï¼¡ we're about to receive.
>>151891724
I'm fucking hype
>that op
Hot DAMN, blew my face off. Way more involved than S1's.
Damn that's a nice song.
Are we seeing the rise of a new great anime song composer?
The end gives me chills.
Wew, I'm actually exited. Wouldn't recommend to watch it on-going, it's one of those animes you need to marathon.
That was trippy.
>>151894716
Ringo isn't new, it's just that she's rare.
Good OP, can't wait for it
Well, I liked the first OP more, but this one isn't bad, either. Perhaps it's just a matter of habit and I will learn to love this too in time.
Anyway, hyped as fuck. I will miss Kiku and Sukeroku's relationship, but I believe that they can make this just as awesome as the first season.
>Part of the lyrics is from "Shinigami"
>That candle at the end
>"You who I loved, who were you again?"
I'm hyped as fuck
HE'S GONNA FUCKING DIE
I might be wrong because of my shit Moon skills, but it looks like the first episode won't have the OP.
>>151894989
>"You who I loved, who were you again?"
That's great.
>there are people on /a/ right now, who can understand moonspeak
Feels batman.
>>151894999I believe in the anime team to handle it as beautifully as in the manga.
>>151895103
Speaking of which, is there a proper translation in English?
I'm praying for an unbelievable amount of Rakguo scenes. Those were so well done last year, and I'm dying for Yotaro to make me piss myself laughing again.
>>151895117
I think the scanlation isn't that far ahead. They started translating the manga just after I caved in and bought all the volumes, so I'm not really keeping up though.
I hope I'll actually start liking Yotaro, he was a little underwhelming in the last season, but I'm willing to assume that it's because he didn't have much screentime and that he will win me over just like Kiku and Sukeroku.
>>151894989
Song title is
>"Imawa no Shinigami" (My Dying Hour's God of Death)Prepare for tears /a/
The Adventures of Grandpa Homo feat. the Lovable Cuck Boy
>>151895117
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-09/kodansha-usa-licenses-showa-genroku-rakugo-shinju-manga/.109716
Subs when?
I don't even remember what was happening at the end of s1. What the hell is s2 going to be about?
Can somebody remind me how S1 ended?
Is this the most morbid OP since Shiki?
>>151895336
That's nice. The Moon level of the original manga is impossible for me.
>>151896439
Flashback ended, Yakumo forgave Yotaro and Konatsu got pregnant. Don't remember too well.
>>151896292
>>151896439
>Sukeroku futatabi
We are back in the present day. Yotaro decided to become the new Sukeroku at the end of S1. Meanwhile, Konatsu is knocked up by some guy and gives birth to an adorable son. Yotaro becomes the father of the said child. Some drama, along with Yotaro's old yakuza hijinks, ensue. Konatsu does rakugo too. Kiku is still haunted by the ghosts of Sukeroku and Miyokichi, and ominous shit surrounds him.He dies happily at the end.
>>151896915
>Yotaro becomes the father of the said child
Oh no, they're promoting kuk culture in the Japan.
>>151891965
Remember when everyone was let down by the first season because it was all flashback? I'm sure it'll be like that. Either way, I rewatched the first episode and it wasn't as good as I'd remembered.
>>151896544
AISHI
AISHIAU NA SA MOTTO
>>151896915
You forgotYotaro and Konatsu get together and by the end they have a daughter.
>>151897093
How is he a cuck if Konatsu was not his love interest by then? Yotaro asked Konatsu if he could help her raising her son.
>>151896989
>everyone
I remember some did not like, not everyone.
>>151897209
You're right about the spoiler, how can I forget that?
>>151897305
because it turned out that /pol/'s highly advanced social theories also map perfectly to what retarded rednecks in Cousinfuck, Alabama think.
Now shut up and let us talk about vaguely homo anime set in the 70s.
>>151896915
>raising his wife's son
>hijinks ensue
This show is a fucking meme.
>>151897352
I guess, genetic is real after all. Konatsu is a lot like her mother in terms of being easy to fuck.
>>151897305
Thanks to r/thedonald and the altright movement mostly.
/pol/ is completely delusional about its own importance.
Some powerful imagery already in the OP. Since some faggot spoiled the series ending last season for me it actually made this OP more exciting
>Kiku-san committing sudoku
>Everyone reaching out to Kiku-san
>Ghosts of Miyokichi and Sukeroku still haunting him revealing that Bon sees himself nothing more than a dead man walking when we see his rib cage
>>151897586
>mentally retarded pizzagate which links magheritas with pedophiles
I have a very strong feeling this was engineered like those "iOS 7 waterproofing" and "microwave charging" to get people to do stupid things.
Mangafags let me know now. Will Bon die
>>151898028Yes. The OP pretty much spoils it.
I guess between the spoilers and cuckposting I should avoid the threads this time.
>>151891724
I had an orgasm listening to this
>>151894844
shit Ringo need to work more in anime
The song is perfect but I'm disappointed with the opening,It is a bite boring.
I would have liked to see more of Miyo.
>>151898430
But this season doesn't even have Miyo.
>>151898430
Miyo is dead anon. And I think the OP fits the manga readers more. We know what happens so seeing the visuals and some scenes gets us hyped, or me at least.
>>151898430
>I would have liked to see more of Miyo.
She's dead Jim, leave her to the past where she belongs.
This has to be one of the saddest opening songs I have ever heard. Too beautiful for words.
>>151898709
It makes me sad that Rakugo has such a lackluster OST despite having godly OPs.
>>151898478
>>151898543
>>151898646
I know that fags
But for me Miyo have an exotic beauty so I just want to see her.
>>151898796
You'll get to see herghosta couple of times thanks to Kiku and Konatsu at least.
How long until the episode airs?
>>151895336
Is the manga scanlation project dropped after Kodansha licensed the series?
>>151899446
Less than 3 hours
>>151891724
>CONGRATULATIONS
ANNOOOOOOO!
>that OP
I'm very excited about the second season.
Too bad /a/ spoiled me on a big plot twist. That's why I don't come here to discuss shows I like anymore, unless I've read the source material first.
Did any of the Rakugofriends buy this? Depending on the contents, might consider it.
>>151891724
>AOTY 2017
>>151891724
If I wanted sleeping pills I would watch Hyouka, at least the girls are cute there.
>>151891724
Fuck that's amazing. HYPE
>>151898028Kinda. He doesn't die during the story, but the manga ends with a "10 years later" epilogue, he's dead by then.Matsuda is still alive
>>151891724
>AOTY 2017
Excuse me, I'll have you know my boy has 3 projects planned for this year.
>>151902090
I didn't know about that. That's some good news, I like him.
>>151902090
And there's also Uchouten Kazoku S2. It's a good year for anime. Choosing the AOTY will be hard for once.
>>151892151
>Rakugo threads
>Active
>>151902156
I'm equally hyped for LOGH but I don't think it'll be an AOTY container.
Rakugo set my expectation so high at the beginning of 2016. I hope they don't disappoint this time too.
>>151891724
Kill yourself, cancer.
The first one was better.
>>151902090
>3 projects
There is the Tatami Galaxy's movie, but what else?
>>151899526
Sorry anon, I have no idea. I haven't checked the manga scanlation project in months.
>>151902090
I only know him as the guy who directed Ping Pong which it was amazing and one of the best anime I have seen. What's his projects for this year?
>>151902341
Original family movie in theaters this Spring (will be announced in a month) and a TV series to be announced in March.
>>151902090
>3 projects
One is that Tatami Galaxy related stuff, what else?
>>151902090
AlsoHosodahas a movie coming out too if I remember.
>>151902090
To be honest this guy is almost singlehandedly carrying modern anime. Science Saru is a beacon of hope with Ghibli closed up.
>>151902613
well his last one wasn't so hot
>>151891724
Thank you based Deen. OP of the season already.
>>151902613
Hosoda is one of the least exciting filmmakers working right now.
Less than an hour to go, and my heart won't lie. I am hyped for it.
>>151902550
> TV series to be announced in March
Noice.
>>151902741
I was going to wait for subs because the Moon in this show is 2hard4me, but I can't fight the urge to find a stream. I've been waiting for months for today.
>that bit where the sound keeps dropping out and the bell starts tolling
>>151902781
Supposedly a collaboration with the director of Flip Flappers. I dunno if that's a good thing or not, but it's certainly interesting.
>that opening
This is going to fucking break my heart.
>>151899683
Is that an inside joke because almost all of the VAs from Eva are also in Rakugo?
>>151902845
It's going to be insane if that's the case, got any source on the collaboration thing? I'm only seeing the info about it being announced in spring
>>151902845
Eh, didn't really like Flip Floppers, but whatever.
>>151902090
Now I want to give The Tatami Galaxy another try. It was good, but I couldn't make it past 3rd episode.
>>151903125
Twitter rumours unfortunately. I heard it from a guy on here.
>>151903290
Me neither, but Oshiyama's at least an interesting figure.
Subs when?
>>151891724Is Kiku the dad?
>>151903499
>Oshiyama's at least an interesting figure
That's the one thing I got from watching FliFla and following his stuff on twitter and whatnot, I really want him to succeed as a director.
Also here's to a next season of amazing background art.
>>151903621
Yeah, there was that interview with him recently, and while I think Flip Flappers sucked I like his approach to animation. I think he's got a lot of potential.
>>151903621
Those backgrounds are gorgeous.
The OP makes it seem Kiku will likely die at the end probably happily surrounded by Yotaro and Konatsu.
>>151904448
I was meaning to ask about that, is that shot of the OP just the night sky leading up to the moon in the next one, or could it be a Galactic Railroad sort of thing? I don't know if the book is ingrained into the japanese culture enough for the starry road to be a clear reference.
OP is foreboding as hell.
Let's hope the second season can keep pace with it and the first season.
>>151891724
>another Shiina Ringo and Hayashibara Megumi OP
>>151904883
It looks like your standard Milky Way to me.
>>151896989
>Remember when everyone was let down by the first season because it was all flashback?
Did you forget the part where a vast part of /a/ considered this anime AOTY?
I need them subs nigga
>>151905232
That's the point. Everyone was whining about flashbacks and then that turned out to be fucking amazing.
>>151905333
Flashback is not the term I would use. It's heavily associated with blatant exposition and assumes the existence of a "real" story.
It was obviously intentional that the material was a story within a story about storytelling.
>>151905894
Yes. Everyone was indeed whining about flashbacks though, that's a fact.
Please let this not get popular among tumblrtards
>>151905096
>another Shiina Ringo and Hayashibara Megumi OP
And it's fucking perfect. Megumi is best voice actress. From being sexy in Pokemon, to waifu tier in Slayers. Now she's making James Bond tier openings for Rakugo. When will she stop?
>>151905966
I'll admit that once the flashback started going on for longer than two episodes I got a little disappointed, but by then the show really started reaching its stride. The problem with a series doing that is that you kind have to have two expositions basically, which slows things down a lot initially.
>>151906013
It's too slow and not overtly gay enough for 14 year old girls.
Anyone else liked Fune wo Amu?
Nowhere near Rakugo, but it was a fine story with an interesting spin with those dictionaries.
>>151906209
It was okay.
>>151906209
It was fine, but I'll eventually forget that it existed.
I enjoyed learning how hard it is to make a dictionary.
>>151906209
I was tired of Kamiya's duck voice, so I didn't watch past the second episode and then forgot about it
>>151906209
I really loved it.
>>151906209
I liked it, but not as much as Rakugo. I could do with more down-to-earth anime like these.
>>151906209
It has impressive animation unlike Rakugo at least
>>151891724
Seki Tomokazu is my favorite.
Raws are out. Subs when and from who?
>>151906627
About 2 hours
>>151906496
>Fune wo amu
>impressive animation
I want to take the same drugs you are consuming atm.
>>151906702
Great.
>>151906209
I still haven't finished watching it because I am busy (I have like 5-6 other anime I am behind). Though, I like it till the episode I watched. It's nice to see how hard is to make dictonaries. I appreciate them more now and the effort the authors go through to create them.
>>151906209
I watched the live action recently and it was pretty cool, maybe better from a story telling point of view. But the anime did all the characters better (even though many complained that they dropped some relationships). Majime from the anime is definitely better (in a less of an autist way)
>>151906702
Can't wait
>>151906714
It has really great character animation fag.
>>151906714
Watch the first episode again, the animation quality dropped later on but the first one is on par with the best looking TV animeand OVAs.
>>151906984
It suffered from quality in a few eps and the facial expressions could've definitely used a few more frames. Body language was better than your average school harem, but it tended to be too quality-y or stiff.
It had appropriate animation, don't get me wrong, but I don't see how it was 'impressive'.
>>151906702
what kind of timezone is that
>>151906209
i want to finish it. did it finish strong? or at least decent?
>>151891724
some parts sound disjointed to me. shiina does that sometimes and it didn't work out that well this time.
though it's still more interesting than other generic OPs so yeah
>>151906984
So did Rakugo though.
let's bingelisten to the original OP waiting for subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K28Lcc-MdJs
>>151907502
Look at her face on 0:39. I'm in the middle of "muh deek" and "muh feels".
>>151907502
better than the new opening for sure
>>151907402
>did it finish strong?
It did.
>>151891724
Omedetou
>>151907557
This
>>151907502
Such a fucking great OP
I love Ishida Akira.
Perfect for the role.
>>151907162
First few were then it kinda fell off.
>>151907461
Fune wo Amu had better facial expressions, I want to say body language as well but not really sure. It helps that character designer for both of those are same and they improved from Rakugo.
>>151907502
This is such a great song.
Anyone remember what S1 sold? I really like the author, hope she can get more stuff animated.Itoshi no nekkoke anime when?
Subs may be late tonight, CR announced late so HR won't have the ripper set up yet.
>>151907859
1635 average.
Also what else from this author is worth reading? Rakugo is my favorite thing of 2016.
>>151907049
Episode 8 was the best animated episode though
there's a skeleton inside all of us
>>151908005
HS even
>>151907859
That shit looks so cute that I'm afraid to read it.
>>151908005
puyasubs is always on time so you can download that and the english subs
>>151908005
Someone else might rip it like BudLightSubs or whatever it's called.
Is the first episode going to be a double episode like in season 1?
>>151907859
Itoshi no nekokke is way too cute! The drama cd:s are also quite okay, I think.
I'd love to see it animated.
>>151906209
Didn't hate it, but got bored with it
Prepare your hearts for cuteness.
>>151908531
I've been prepared since then.
>>151908289
The first episode then was just excerpts from the OVAs slapped together, and since the second season is produced from scratch I wouldn't expect it to be.
>>151908531
HNNNGH.
>>151908531
>>151908589
>Black wavy hair
Don't tell me Konatsu fucked Yotaro's former yakuza boss
>>151909196
it's fucking Japan man
>>151908589
a slut and a bastard
>>151908589
best mom
>>151909486
Take that back.
>sleeps around because her legal guardian is a mean autistic homo
>ends up with a bastard
>finds a cuck to raise him
>legal guardian decides not to kick her out
is there a thing she doesn't get away with?
>>151909764
cool meme
>>151908008
Unless you're /y/, nothing.
>>151910013
I don't mind yaoi. The pic posted feels like Classmates level of comfy.
>>151902234
It depends on who's directing, really. I've seen some people suggest that that's why Izubuchi left Yamato, which would definitely put it on my radar for potential AOTY status if it turns out to be true.
>>151910090
Everything. Especially Itoshi no Nekokke
480p out on HS, 720 soon
>>151911113
720p out. The time has come.
720 IS OUT
>>151911281
>The time has come.
And so have I
>tfw won't be able to watch until tomorrow
Shit sucks
Man, even when the episode comes out the threads are dead.
>>151911728
People watching it right now
>>151911728
My download is deader.
>>151911728
Threads were always dead
>>151905096
>tfw I can tell /mu/ weebs that they're not allowed to like Ringo anymore because she's made 2 (two [too]) anison now
>Yotaro imitating Yakumo
We're already off a good start.
>>151911728
I'll watch it tomorrow.
>>151909764
That's what real women do, I'm not sure why you're surprised.
I can't believe how much I missed the Ishida.
>>151906209
Couldn't get past the middle of episode 1.
I stopped when they did a windows movie maker tier editing
Yotaro acts like fucking Jyuushimatsu.
>>151907360
Pacific Standard Time?
>>151912348
He's so bitter and mean in his old age.
I just loved the beginning with Yotaro recapping season 1 in Rakugo style
Fuck. I should just read and finish the manga at this point.
Yakumo is so elegant.
Oh, Yotaro.
>>151912458
he's a swirling vortex of guilt and shame.
That was fucking excellent
>>151895336
I wonder how many josei get licensed for the US market.
What a beautiful street light.
>>151913069
Not many, other than huge things like NANA and Kuragehime.
>>151913069
Josei is the literally who of manga.
It's just as good as before.
Yotaro doing a summary of the first season was perfect.
>>151913104
>everybody thinks NANA is a josei
>NANA won the 2002 Shogakukan Manga Award for Shoujo manga
>>151913069
Wish Chihayafuru's manga got fucking licensed
>>151912348
You can listen to him in Arc-V though :^)
>>151891724
Eh it was more boring than first season.
So Hii was the kid that was rejected in episode 10 last season then.
>>151913401
I was thinking about the same thing.
Bad translation of Shinjuu as death CR. Come on. He was talking of a lover's suicide of himself with Rakugo.
>>151913381
It is in France.
I was grinning like an idiot throughout this entire part, seems I really missed it.
Pretty nice OP
Fuck I'm so hype for this
did the writer guy appear in first season? I vaguely remember kikuhiko rejecting some guy but I can't find the episode/scene.
Higuchi's voice sounds off to me. He's supposed sound older.
>>151913509
same here.
>>151899526
Yes. Helvetica dropped it at the 4th volume after the announcement.
>>151913618
Too bad.
Thanks.
Best dad.
Supposedly 10 years have passed? That feels off
>>151913667
>my wife's son
>>151913641
No problem. I know I'm buying the whole set.
>>151912475
>>151913509
This scene was incredibly neat indeed.
>>151913509
I fucking screamed with excitement like an idiot when the jazz music kicked in.
>>151913676
>feels offheh
I was worried that I wouldn't like Yotaro much, but that speech about not knowing if his feelings were romantic but it not mattering regardless really endeared him to me.
>After Shouwa Genroku, I will finaly commit the Rakugo Shinjuuâ„¢
Really now?
>>151913676
There was a 10 year timeskip in the final episode of S1, silly. As in, 10 years since Yotaro became a rakugo apprentice.
>>151913687
Stop.
>>151891724
why was faggots on ice more popular with the fujoshis? this is the best gay anime of all time
>>151913749
What an Occultic;Nine!
>>151913749
He first said it in the director's cut. No one's subbed it, did they?
>>151891724
why are the best shows of the season always cuck shows?
>>151913767
Really? Guess I should rewatch it
>>151913825
It's not gay.
>>151913825
I'd reather have Rakugo be a low profile anime. If it was popular, we wouldn't be able to discuss anything.
I can't stress this enough: Ishida is GOAT.
>>151913676
how so? the timeskip was in season 1
Also this one moment was bloody amazing, alluding to the OP and Kikuhiko's Shinigami performance with the "Couldn't tell my feet from my head."
Fuck yes best day of the week is back. I've missed this show so much. Can't believe it's been a whole year since the first season.
What a good first episode.
>>151913885
Unfortunately not, wish somebody subbed it already.
>>151891724
So I haven't read the manga, and I've been wondering if the double suicide of the title only refers to Sukeroku and Miyokichi's deaths, or if there's gonna be another double suicide in the present-day too. I feel like there's going to be another one because it would be ceramic.
>>151914112
>it would be ceramic
>>151913995
>pic related
>implying Miyokichi ruined everything for Bon and Shin when actually it was the other way round
>>151913993
I loved that part when everything went upside down too.
Also this bit where Yotaro's reflection on the table was Yakumo was great.
>>151913319
Nana happens to be shoujo, you're right, but your argument is faulty because the Shogakukan shoujo award is actually open to both shoujo and josei. The real argument is to go to the fucking site for Nana's magazine Cookie, and quote where it says shoujo, which I'm too lazy to do right now.
>>151914112
To my mind it mainly refers to Kikuhiko+Rakugo itself, with him wanting to >>151913749
What the hell the first episode happened already? Came out of nowhere
How often does he take it in the pooper?
>>151914182
what he said. she just acted appropriately after being fucked with for so long.
How come Konatsu is a redhair if her parents are japanese?
>>151892277
>delusional.
Oh it's you again.
It's very easy to read Bon as repressed homosexual or struggling with his feelings, then again that would require understanding subtlety and nuances of writing people.
>>151914493
It's an anime
>>151914414
I forgot who that guy even was
Goddamn I fucking adore this series, I'd forgotten how much until this episode reminded me.
>that fucking OST
>that voice acting
>that dynamic, theatrical direction
>beautiful, dignified GILF Yakumo
>cute and pure Yotaro
It hasn't lost a bit of charm after moving to the present. I wish we got to see a full performance but that's my only complaint.
>>151914538I heard he gets definitively established as being straight later in the manga.
>>151914610
Wasn't he the son of the previous rakugo president?
>>151914610
Because he didn't really appear in S1. If you watch the OVA or the director's cut, you get to know him.
Are there any irl rakugo that are subbed?
>>151914414
Those mannerism scream fag but then he wanted to ask Konatsu out.
>>151914693
Check youtube.
I remember watching some of these after joshiraku ended.
>>151913995
>Famous manga author
Was it Kubo?
>>151913885
>He first said it in the director's cut.
What are the differences?
Did the fall of rakugo happen in japan? I'd expect a country as traditional as Japan to cling to it strong. Even in west we still have classic theaters and that is possibly the most oldschool thing you can enjoy nowadays.
I've been looking forward to this. Love this anime.
>>151913825
Cause it's not a pandering show.
I mean, it's gay in a sense that their interaction are a lot of gay and Bon comes off as coded gay, but the anime is first and foremost a story.
There isn't even long term shipping potential.
>>151914893
>I'd expect a country as traditional as Japan to cling to it strong.
Why would young people even care about a pre-war tradition?
Especially with TV and stuff.
>>151906209
I liked it a lot, it was a really laid back kind of show. Seeing Majime become the head of the project was nice, and honestly I found him and his wife fucking cute as shit, even if they were the more traditionally reserved kind of couple.
>>151914896
>My wife's son.
>>151896989
I wasn't let down, I just wasn't expecting the flashback to keep going and going
>>151914182
Nah she's a cunt. They're all cunts, but she's definitely the worst of them all.
>>151913825
Quality alone is never what dictates popularity, but either way it's pretty much gone full het (gay subtext only) and the main ship ended tragically. Fujos don't deserve to be targeted for it's lack of popularity.
>>151914482
>Murder
>Acted appropriately
Okey then
>>151914576
But all other characters have normal colored hair.
Did they really have to go with the wife's son thing
I can't take this shit seriously anymore, not that I ever could but I mean come on now
10 years later and Matsuda the buttler is still alive.
HOW OLD IS THAT DUDE?
>>151915292
Does it really matter to you that Yotaro wants to do this? I mean how you perceive this story cuckmemes aside or whatever other meme there is for this situation.
>marrying someone because they remind you of your dad
>>151915342
He's going to bury everyone else and still live. He's immortal.
>>151915362
Finally a realistic portrayal of women.
No wonder it makes /a/ mad.
>>151915292
>Did they really have to go with the wife's son thing
Contrary to what /a/ believe, people in real life date even if they have children.
How do you think divorced people never remarry?
Imagine getting a blowjob from this how slut.
>already AOTS
How can others compare?
>>151915292
It's actually a filter to make people who can't appreciate good writing drop the series. All the drooling retards who cry about 'cucking' and can't muster up an ounce of maturity and empathy to enjoy a serious drama with flawed characters will be filtered out by that one storyline.
He made it clear he doesn't have romantic feelings for her. She is not pursuing him in order to get a baby daddy. He has little money or prospects, and isn't the 'beta bucks' figure necessary for your cuck meme to make sense here. He just wants to be a family, he's not thinking of it in terms of who got to stick his dick in Konatsu.
>>151915026
I already told you to stop.
>>151915492
Not having cuckoldy is a start.
>>151915513
I don't mind the whole plot because I'm a fag and I don't self insert anime, plus I love when stories basically tell autist fuck off, but I wish it had been his son so we wouldn't have to endure a fucking season of cuck jokes.
>>151915342
72.
>>151915609
It's not possible. He looked 30 when the previous manster was alive.
If only she didn't sleep around and let yakuza bosses pour their seed into her.
>>151915359
>>151915511
>Does it really matter to you that Yotaro wants to do this?
Yeah it does. They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof. He never made a move on her and then just as she pops out a child he goes and asks her out? Even though he doesn't even *really* love her?
>He just wants to be a family
There's plenty of good women around. Why Konatsu over someone else?
Memes aside I don't understand his thinking.
>>151915492
Well you've got Re: Zero and Flip Flappers ruled out already then.
>>151915714
>Why Konatsu over someone else?
Because they're already basically family, they lived together for ages. She is already part of his life and intimately connected to everything he cares about. And any person with a soul will want a baby to be taken care of properly.
It's fucking mind boggling that you cuckposters are so disconnected from human relationships that you can't fathom caring about someone for more reasons than the sexual exclusivity they can offer.
>>151915697
They'd be pouring their seed into Yotaro instead, knowing this author, if they haven't already—aniki was pretty touchy in the first season.
>>151915714
>They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof.
Yotaro moved out when he got the futatsume rank though.
>Why Konatsu over someone else?
Because he wants a big happy rakugo family before anything else and they already have a pretty close relationship, having lived together for so long.
>>151915644
He says he's 72 in episode 13 of season 1.
>>151915714
>Yeah it does. They've known each other for over 10 years and lived under the same roof. He never made a move on her and then just as she pops out a child he goes and asks her out? Even though he doesn't even *really* love her?
He said he loves her. You can love someone without it being romantic you know and still want to make them happy as Yotaro said. And no, because you live with someone so many years under the same roof doesn't mean you are obligated to like each other and make pop out children. Yotaro still calls her "Nee-san" even now. And she obviously was with someone else as far as we know that did not want the child and left her. Yotaro asked her to help her out of his love for her and not pity.
What's hard to understand? He loves Konatsu and he will eventually start to like her in a romantic way, same goes for her. But before this happens he wants to help her raise her kid. Simple as that.
>>151915819
/pol/shitters just want to be proud that they're not useless degenerates for not being able to talk to a woman, it's just because they have PROPER STANDARDS.
They should have released this in 2014. The cuck meme wasn't as strong. 2016 was a bitch if you like to recommend people with romances that aren't wish fulfillment.
this episode was so comfy even with kiku being a bitter old man
>>151916177
Anime with romances* err
>>151891724
>AOTY
It's fujo garbage anon with dull characters.
>>151916177
>that aren't wish fulfillment
Anon, cuck memes are cancer and all, but there is a significant middle ground between "wish-fulfillment" and "marrying someone you don't have romantic feelings for."
>>151916220
It was really comfy and fun but it still feels really foreboding, like there's a sense of dread from the times they bring up death.
>>151916270
>No, we just aren't cucks. If you're OK with raising your wife's son - well, that is for you to decide. But please, don't spread your sickening fetish on the other people.
Given the divorced rate in the US, I think most people are.
>>151916378
This guy isn't living in the civilized world, he's living in some dream land where he hits women over the head with a club and drags them back to his cave.
>>151916378
>>151916270
>>151916048
>>151915819
Please keep 3D discussions out of /a/, thanks.
I'm glad I didn't rewatch S1 before the new one came out so that hazy memories or nostalgia wouldn't cloud my first impression. With this first episode I remembered what I loved the most about this series: characters may be talking about boring stuff or even in very abstract terms of daily occurrences or dreams, but every feeling comes across no matter how silly the whole conversation may be.
Yeah, other anime also have 'loud' voice acting, too bad they don't get the God tier OST nor the great visuals to make me care about them. Every frame has so much harmony and texture that the difference with other shows is jarring.
Thank you based DEEN. The acting and the direction are flawless.
>>151916323
>"marrying someone you don't have romantic feelings for."
Oh anon, I bet you don't know why people were getting married a few decades ago. Most of them felt nothing, especially romantic love. It was all about having children and more hands to work. If your husband or wife died, your relatives made you marry someone else. It was very rare to fall in love with your partner.
And again, he loves her, wants to help her and make her happy. Why can't they marry for that reason even if they don't love each other in a romantic way for now?
>>151916177
I don't think it's a matter of wish fulfillment. Say what you will, but getting an arrangement like that is unusual to put it generously. The "cuck meme" has always been strong. No one really wants stepkids unless they're sterile or something.
That said, people who bitch about this particular instance are kind of fucking stupid. If it's just some dumb whore with nothing to her but the ability to manipulate men, then yeah, I wouldn't fucking do it for her either. If it's a woman who shares a passion with you and is serious about it? Someone close to you? Someone who isn't just an all around dunce with no sense of pride? I'd do it then put two more in her.
>>151916536
This is not what I'm saying.
In real life, people divorced and marry to people with children all the times.
No one lives his life thinking if the girl is pure or not.
Rakugo is a clear cut down to earth "fuck your delusion" story, S1 featured a Geisha who tried to seduce the main character, failed and used his best friend as a rebount, it's not interested in making you feel good because you self-insert at the main character and think every woman vagina should be his.
>>151916498
> Oh anon, I bet you don't know why people were getting married a few decades ago.
What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
>And again, he loves her, wants to help her and make her happy. Why can't they marry for that reason even if they don't love each other in a romantic way for now?
They can, it's not like I have any power to stop them. People can also get married for tax purposes or green cards or whatever. Again, this has nothing to do with what I said. Just stop pretending there's some binary between wish-fulfillment romance and non-romantic "romance."
>>151916638
>I don't think it's a matter of wish fulfillment. Say what you will, but getting an arrangement like that is unusual to put it generously. The "cuck meme" has always been strong. No one really wants stepkids unless they're sterile or something.
People even call Erased cuckoldy. And that one didn't have kids a featured a 10 years old.
I wish this thread was dead again.
Show's looking bright though, a little slow for a first episode, but so was S1's first episode (the non OVA 2h one that is) and took about 3 episodes to really kick off into my AOTY. Seems that Ep.2 is going to have a lot of stuff happen instead of just building a foundation to go off like this episode did.
Is the ED out yet? Can't wait to get my hands on S2's OST.
>>151891724
We're reaching levels of kino that shouldn't even be possible.
>>151916536
You don't know how she got pregnant to begin with. I mean of course she had sex with someone but that's all we know.
>>151913825
Quiter show with writing that's about as grounded as it gets. Also while Kiku is arguably gay Sukeroku is not.
>>151916832
> I mean of course she had sex with someone
What if the baby's Jesus?
>>151916832
Maybe she got railed by the spirit of Rakugo?
>>151916753
I haven't watched erased, but I imagine that people are kinda getting fed up with love triangles. It's cheap drama no one really feels moved by, and is downright offensive and adolescent in some cases (Re: Zero).
>>151916905
You're way off base, that's not what the issue was.
>>151916905
There is no love triangle in Erased, people are literally mad that the main girl didn't wait more than a decade for the main character to randomly wake up from a coma.
>>151916833
>while Kiku is arguably gay Sukeroku is not
It's not fair, Kiku's misery hurts
>>151916905
It didn't have love triangle. The main character fell into a coma for 18 years, the elementary girl he rescued moved on and married some else.
Endless cuck memes.
>>151916950
>people are literally mad
No, people were pretending to be mad because of epic memes. At least 90% of them.
>>151916975
>>151916950
That's why I'm glad I'm a fag. No self insertion so I don't care who women chose to love. Obvious cheating is bad but who gives a fuck with who people end with when the are not in a relationship?
Didn't even get mad about the ending of stuff like FC or Princess Tutu.
>>151916905
>two 10 year olds possibly have a semi crush on each other (no confession, no relationship, nothing solid because they were kids)
>the boy saves the girl although she is unaware of it, and goes into a coma as a result
>10 years later he wakes up and the girl is married with a kid
>he cries tears of happiness and ends up getting his own gf
>/a/ is enraged because a child didn't wait 10 years for a boy she was friends with to come out of a coma so they could get married
It's so absurd in so many ways.
>>151917004
that would've been believable like two years ago but I'm not sure about now
>>151917089
Your outlook isn't because you're not straight, it's because you're not a retard.
>>151917151
Why? Because I don't expect women in non wish fulfillment anime to automatically end with the MC?
News at 11, not everyone likes LN tier wish fulfillment.
>>151917089
>Didn't even get mad about the ending of stuff like FC or Princess Tutu.
I don't usually give a fuck about hetshit but those really hurt. They're good series and the romance wasn't cheap wish fulfillment for straight male otaku. Princess Tutu was supposed to be a happy end but I can't see a legit future betweena human and a fucking duck, what happens if Fakir ever wants to get married? He'll bring his wife home to meet his pet duck?
Fantastic Children was the first and only time I ever felt truly NTR'd by a series. It was painful.
>>151917113
no you see, if you do something nice for a girl that means she belongs to you forever
these are guys that crypost on /r9k/ when a girl they buy a coffee doesn't end up marrying them, how do you think they'd react when a guy saves a girl's life
>>151917201
>not a retard
>not
>>151917122
Well, Boku Dake was one year ago, so there's that. There was also the /tv/ edits, "IT'S NOT FAIR" meme stuff, and general obvious spam, none of which are usually the sign of genuine emotion.
>>151917221
>Fantastic Children was the first and only time I ever felt truly NTR'd by a series. It was painful.
Kek I love the bait switch in FC. Because people were fine with it since it was their self-insert only whenit's revealed the protagonist is not the reincarnation of the dude the female protagonist was waiting for but the dude who killed them.
As for Tutu I saw people getting mad thatAhiru didn't end up with Mytho which was bullshit. I don't have issue with her staying as duck because she is a duck.
>>151917266
Oh. You got me there, I'm too used to getting called a retard on /a/.
>>151917004
>memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPwVMv8cAO4
>>151917397
Hey, you proved his statement wrong at least.
>>151917334
Wait, people were mad aboutAhiru and Mytho not getting together? I assumed it was because she turned back into a duck. I guess I really can't follow hetfag logic.
FC was particularly miserable becausenot only is the guy NTR'd in his original reincarnation, he's NTR'd again after that, and he doesn't even have the moral highground because he's a fucking murderer in a past life. His future self was innocent so it felt like he didn't deserve it.It was a pretty fucking amazing plot twist though.
>>151917468
Well yeah, I was a huge retard.
Christ this show is satisfying on every level
>yfw the only criticism is coming from memers
>>151917478
>>151917478
>Wait, people were mad aboutAhiru and Mytho not getting together? I assumed it was because she turned back into a duck. I guess I really can't follow hetfag logic.
Yes, people hated it because also didn't like Rue.They expected the Protagonist and the man of her dream to end up together. So when she gets duck'ed and up with Fakyr is seen as a "downgrade".
And this is why there's barely any Rakugo threads, cause you have to deal with memeshitters.
>>151917597
Damn, that's bizarre. Ahiru's dream man was basically an empty shell for the time she was infatuated with him. I didn't like Fakir at first but he ended up being a complete and utter best.
I actually wanted him and Mytho together, kek. The sexual tension was off the charts for a while there.
>>151917329
>Well, Boku Dake was one year ago, so there's that. There was also the /tv/ edits, "IT'S NOT FAIR" meme stuff, and general obvious spam, none of which are usually the sign of genuine emotion.
I don't know, I still see people calling Kayo a slut nowadays.
I do agree that a lot of people were bandwagoned, but let's not pretend a lot of people didn't self insert as Satoru and wanted to end up as Kayo.
>Escaped from the no-homo discussion of YoI from last season
>Next season is 12 episodes of Rakugo cuck discussion
This is a nightmare.
>>151915166
Shin was worse than Miyokichi and there's nothing you can say to prove me wrong.
Missing parts of s1ep1
Scene 1 - Konatsu tries to convince Yotaro to drop the apprenticeship, but he tells her that he's where he wants to be.
Scene 2 - Yakumo and Yotaro go shopping for Yotaro's kimono.
Scene 3 - Yotaro meets the eccentric theatre critic Amaken.
Scene 4 - Amaken pries into the nature of Yotaro and Yakumo's relationship, is shocked to hear of the apprenticeship.
Scene 5 - Yotaro experiences the hardships of being a zenza.
Scene 6 - Konatsu tries to awaken a sleeping Yotaro, finds out he has a koi fish back tattoo. He says it's no secret, he never committed to being a gangster and everyone at the theatre accepts him regardless of his past mistakes.
Scene 7 - Extended patio scene: Konatsu reminisces about her father's rakugo, Yotaro's boss reveals what he wanted him to do for him.
Scene 8 - Extended Dekigokoro performance: Yakumo shows pride for Yotaro, Yotaro's performance goes on a bit longer, it's revealed that Yakumo has a contact in the mob and will free Yotaro of his past obligations.
Scene 9 - Yakumo tells Yotaro they're going to Kyoto.
Scene 10 - Yakumo introduces Yotaro to his elderly rakugo companion, Bansai, and his son/apprentice, Mangetsu. Yakumo and Bansai perform as Mangetsu and Yotaro speak.
Scene 11 - Konatsu and Matsuda look at an old photo album of Sukeroku and Yakumo.
Scene 12 - Yakumo speaks to Mangetsu on the inevitability of death, how rakugo, just like Bansai, is at the twilight of its life.
Scene 13 - Yotaro looks for Sukeroku albums, to no avail.
Scene 14 - Yotaro finds Sukeroku recordings at the house, Yakumo visits the kabuki theatre he's going to have his recital in and sees the spectre of Sukeroku.
Scene 15 - Yakumo meets Konatsu at her workplace, the two argue about whether or not Konatsu is capable of carrying Sukeroku's legacy, or if Yakumo would allow her to.
Scene 16 - Extended Kajikawaza performance: Mangetsu berates Yotaro on his blatant mimicry, Yakumo's performance goes on a bit longer.
>>151918121
Shin was a lazy, disrespectful bum that wanted both the approval of the association and none of their guidance.
Scene 1:
- Begins at 6:13 in the broadcast version
https://my.mixtape.moe/yjkzng.webm
- Konatsu calls Yotaro over from the living room, asking him to come speak to her one-on-one. Matsuda wishes him good luck.
- Konatsu tells Yotaro to just give up on the apprenticeship. Flustered, Yotaro asks her why while addressing her as "Ane-go" (Big Sis, yakuza slang), which she takes direct offense from asserting that she's not a criminal and shouldn't be addressed that way. Yotaro exclaims that he isn't a criminal either, so it's okay.
- Konatsu asks how Yotaro ended up in jail if he isn't a criminal, to which he doesn't have an answer. She tells him he really is a "Yotarou", then explaining that a Yotaro is rakugo slang for a dimwitted man that shows up in a story to cause a mess.
- Konatsu returns to the point, that Yotaro should be weary because Yakumo has no intention of passing off his craft. According to her, he intends to commit a lovers suicide with rakugo ("Rakugo Shinjuu"). He is the last of the great masters, and he hasn't taken up an apprentice in so many years because he intends to remain the last.
- Konatsu explains that the popularization of alternate forms of media, namely television and manzai, are the cause of the uncertainty around rakugo's future and, ultimately, Yakumo's weariness to keep it alive. Konatsu says that Yakumo's intention to take rakugo with him to the grave is selfish, and his selfishness is what she hates about him.
- Yotaro offers a rebuttal, saying that, to him, all of that is too complicated. He grew up listening to Rakugo with his father and has been a fan of it since he was younger. If people like him and Konatsu still appreciate rakugo, then there's hope for future generations. He learns that Konatsu performs rakugo herself, and that makes him ecstatic.
>>151918254
- The scene ends with the two of them hearing the sound of music coming from another room. Yotaro asks Konatsu about it, she tells him it's Yakumo practicing the shamisen, a usual nightly activity for him. Yotaro is filled with happiness, saying that living in the house is to be engulfed in Yakumo's artistry.
Scene 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/lkqkda.webm
- Yotaro runs in from offscreen wearing a green kimono, happy as can be. Yakumo smiles as he sees him with the fabric shop owner complimenting Yotaro for looking so dashing.
- Yotaro asks Yakumo if it's okay to accept such nice clothes as Yakumo fixes his obi. Yakumo tells him that he used to fix up the clothes for a friend of his so he needn't worry. Yotaro gleefully responds by reciting the opening lines to the rakugo "Shinigami", which pisses Yakumo off, who tells him not to embarass him like that.
- It then cuts to both of them walking down the street, Yotaro lugging a whole bunch of supplies as Yakumo tells him they need to visit the accessory shop next. Yakumo praises Yotaro's obedience and muses on whether or not he should have taken an apprentice earlier.
Scene 3:
https://my.mixtape.moe/dnnges.webm
- Yakumo and Yotaro are greeted at the theater by a seemingly young, curly haired dandy, who Yakumo promptly ignores. The man claims to know Yakumo for quite some time, expressing his happiness in seeing him grow to be such a big name in rakugo, Yakumo tells him to fuck off with his usual sexy old man eyes. The young dandy is paralyzed by Yakumo's raw intensity and crumples on the floor with a smile on his face.
- Yotaro asks who that was. Yakumo replies that he's the theater critic Amaken, and that Yotaro should weary of him. (Observant viewers will recognize him as the son of the previous Amaken, showing up with his father in episode 9).
>>151918323
Low effort.
>>151918314
Scene 4:
- Amaken pulls Yotaro back into the other room after Yakumo tells him he'll be performing "Shinigami". Amaken smacks Yotaro in the face with his sensu, asking him what on earth would cause Yakumo to give someone like him special treatment.
- Yotaro claims to be Yakumo's apprentice, causing Amaken to lose it. Amaken claims that Yakumo would never take an apprentice ever, and that his is the real deal. According to him there's debate between whether or not Sukeroku was the last great master, but he just doesn't see it.
- The two then go to watch Yakumo's performance, with Amaken claiming great excitement over seeing the last great master perform.
Scene 5:
https://my.mixtape.moe/unbzpw.webm
- Yotaro gives a performance to a mostly empty theatre, which causes him to feel depressed and frustrated.
- Backstage, Yotaro is tending to the other rakugo masters. He's give a tray and told to provide tea for master Nekosuke, who comments on how nice it is that someone so young should be trying to enter the field.
Scene 6:
https://my.mixtape.moe/jgmmec.webm
- Matsuda finds Yotaro asleep on Yakumo's lap. Yakumo tells him that Yotaro requested to learn some more scripts, so when Yakumo grew tired of it he lulled him to sleep by cleaning out his ears, a trick he learned for quieting annoying men. Konatsu overhears from the doorway and stomps off.
- Later, Konatsu comes to check up on Yotaro to find him still sprawled on the patio. She kicks him to try and get him up and then tries to lift him from his collar. Doing so reveals his back, showing off the outline of a full-back koi fish tattoo.
>>151918392
I'm a believer in minimalism.
This includes effort.
>>151918401
- Konatsu, furious, forces him to wake up and explain the meaning of it, since he claimed not to be a criminal (full-back koi tattoos are common among yakuza). Yotaro shows her the whole tattoo, claiming that he only ever got the outline because getting the full thing would hurt too much. He always gave up on everything halfway so he was only ever half a criminal. Konatsu smacks him with her purse for the way he phrased that.
- Yotaro explains that he went to prison after taking the blame for someone else's crime, and he took advantage of that moment to leave the gang for good. He explains that his carefree ways and natural stupidity led him to be scouted by gangsters, so by the time he realized what position he was in it was already too late.
- Konatsu tells him to keep it quiet from everyone else, but to her surprise Yotaro claims that everyone in the theatre already knows about it. It's a small community so everyone knows everything about it, and because of that it's a warm place where they'll accept anyone, including an idiot like him. Konatsu says she wishes she knew what that was like, being a woman in that era and in that craft means she doesn't have those kinds of experiences.
- Yotaro asks if she reconciled with Yakumo, which causes Konatsu to hit him with her purse again. He says he'll forget everything if she keeps thwacking him, which gets Konatsu to tell him that she'll help him memorize scripts if that's what he needs. They spend the rest of the night together, Konatsu teaching him all kinds of stories, while Yakumo listens in from the second story.
Scene 7:
- The scene where Yotaro practices with Konatsu on the patio and is then interrupted by his former boss has been modified in the extended version https://my.mixtape.moe/fyfayl.webm
>>151918401
>a trick he learned for quieting annoying men
what did he mean by this
>>151918484
there's a moment where Konatsu, having complained about Yotaro's inability to draw audiences, recalls the performances of her father, who she claims would captivate his audiences through his comedic timing and strong presence.
- When Yotaro's former boss is speaking to him about wanting a job, an additional line is included that explains the mission Yotaro can't refuse. He asks him to go back to jail and come back for him.
Scene 8:
- The scene where Yotaro performs Dekigokoro has been modified in the extended version (18:01-29:02 in the broadcast version, 29:25-43:36 on disc). - https://my.mixtape.moe/ixcvcr.webm
- There are two small scenes. The first shows Yotaro working backstage as he plays the drum and assists the shamisen players for the previous performers. Immediately after, Yakumo and Yotaro's old boss are approached by the theatre owner in their seats, asking why a rakugo master such as Yakumo is sitting in that night. He says he is watching his apprentice, and tells the owner to pay close attention to Yotaro who he promises will be interesting.
- Yotaro's performance is unabridged, presumably Dekigokoro in full, which runs from 30:42 to 42:50 (has a runtime difference of 2:21). Fans of the rakugo component should definitely check it out, it's an awesome performance and the details here and there really make it even better.
- There's a small bit added on to the final moments of the scene. Yakumo reveals he knows the boss of Yotaro's boss and claims he can help get him out of the gang, which overjoys Yotaro.
>>151918510
It's what he did with Shin in case you forgot.
>>151918528
>14min
hory shit
>>151918510
He did it for Sukeroku
>>151918528
Scene 9:
https://my.mixtape.moe/hfmtpe.webm
- Yakumo tells Yotaro that the two will be going over to Kyoto the following day. Every summer Yakumo performs with a colleague, Bansai, in a duo show. Bansai, however, has fallen ill, but regardless he still wants to meet Yotaro out of curiosity to who Yakumo would accept as an apprentice. Yotaro is excited because he's never traveled, which amuses Yakumo and causes him to tease him.
Scene 10:
https://my.mixtape.moe/vrfyvv.webm
- Yakumo and Yotaro arrive at Kyoto and are greeted by a snazzy looking young man (that somewhat resembles a younger Yakumo). He is introduced as Mangetsu, son and apprentice to Bansai.
- In the car, Yotaro gazes out the window excitedly. Mangetsu tells Yakumo that his father was excited to see him as he cherishes him as an old friend, to which Yakumo replies that he was startled to hear of Bansai's hospitalization. Mangetsu tells him that if anyone was surprised it was Bansai, not of the hospitalization but to have heard that Yakumo had found an apprentice. Yakumo claims that Yotaro is more like a puppy than an apprentice. Mangetsu asks if he can someday get a lesson from Yakumo, to which Yakumo says maybe.
- The three arrive and are greeted by Bansai, who seems to be well. Bansai and Yotaro have a moment, wherein he says that if anything happens with the gloomy Yakumo he would love to take him aboard as his own apprentice.
I want to make Konatsu a mom- oh wait...
>>151918643
So who's the father? And does he ever come back? I remember seeing a spoiler page where some guy is beating the shit out of Yotaro while Konatsu is blushing. What the fuck was that about?
Nice song
>>151918529
>>151918576
wait, really? i should probably rewatch s1.
>>151918616
- Indoors and much later, Yotaro gazes upon the kouza in the theatre, specifically at the painting behind it. Mangetsu approaches him and tells him it's an Okyo painting, something Bansai keeps there as a favor to Yakumo. He asks Yotaro to follow him to another room, as there are things he'd like to discuss with him, which he skeptically accepts.
- Mangetsu, who looks dashing in his pink kimono, tells Yotaro that he's asked to be Yakumo's apprentice many times but was rejected each time, musing to himself what Yotaro has that he lacks. Mangetsu asks about Konatsu, to Yotaro's surprise, but Mangetsu affirms with him that the two have met before and that Konatsu is beloved as Sukeroku's only child. Mangetsu tells him he's jealous, which Yotaro cockily accepts to Mangetsu's amusement.
- Yakumo enters the room and calls the two out to watch him perform. He then performs the rakugo "Okyo's Ghost" which is a ghost story surrounding the painting behind him. Meanwhile, Mangetsu commentates on why Yakumo's performance of the rakugo is so chilling and beautiful as Yotaro continues to be impressed by his master's work. An interesting note is how Mangetsu applauds the way Yakumo channels a type of feminity with his gender performances that feel authentic, which becomes a major theme in the flashback arc.
- After Yakumo finishes, he hands the stage to Bansai. Yakumo asks Yotaro to step aside so that he can sit as close as possible while backstage, so that he may get the best seat to watch Bansai perform. Yotaro smiles on, saying that Yakumo looks childlike in the way he's captivated by Bansai.
>>151918775
probably Yotaro's yakuza aniki
>>151917577
There really aren't any legitimate criticisms of this show from anons. The only stuff we'll get is from shitposters who are insecure about their sexuality and masculinity.
>>151918845
Scene 11:
https://my.mixtape.moe/ajawcx.webm
- Konatsu is shown looking through a book back at home. Matsuda approaches her and asks what she's doing, to which she replies she's looking at photos of her father. Matsuda feels a sense of nostalgia as they look on, recalling how the first picture (episode 2) was taken back at the family home of the seventh generation Yakumo. He recalls their old names, Kikuhiko and Hatsuta.
- Konatsu flips to another photograph and asks about it, turning to the photo of her father and the eigth generation Yakumo after their performance of the play Shika-Shibai (episode 5). Konatsu mentions how they were always together in photos, and asks if the two were close. Matsuda says close is an understatement, the two were the best of friends from the very beginning to the very end. Konatsu remarks how cruel fate is, how despite being so close one is famous while the other is long dead. She tells Matsuda that she believes her father may have been the one meant to be the eighth generation Yakumo, but Matsuda tells her to leave the past alone.
>>151918775
I haven't read the manga but I'm betting my lucky knickers thatYakumo is indeed the father. It's something that ojii-san would do.I don't blame him for doing that tho.
>>151918323
>>151918902
Scene 12:
https://my.mixtape.moe/rddvnn.webm
- After the performances, Yakumo and Mangetsu are drinking outside on the balcony of the theatre. Mangetsu asks why Yakumo looks upset, he tells him he's noticing that Bansai is doing worse with the days. The two discuss his failing health, and Yakumo laments that this might be the last year he'll be able to perform next to him. At some point in our lives we will end up like Bansai, unable to speak loudly or even sit without growing tired.
- In a beautiful but heart wretching scene, Yakumo recalls the tragedy of rakugo. To him, the loss of even a single performer is immeasurable, everyone has their own style, their own voice, to where a single death is a dagger to the heart of the whole medium. As time flows, people pass on, their traditions, their values, even the towns where their honed their craft will be lost. Being a rakugo performer no longer means performing rakugo, it's to try to fight the inevitability of time by fighting the dying of the art. Abandoning it will be for the best.
- The scene shifts to Yotaro, who is playing with fireworks while keeping Bansai company. Bansai remarks that Yotaro reminds him of Sukeroku, whose daughter has been in Yakumo's care. He wonders how the three will do moving forward.
Scene 13:
https://my.mixtape.moe/krhjpm.webm
- Yotaro and Yakumo return home from the trip, with Yotaro being in particularly high spirits. He tells Yakumo he needs to practice, so he'll be heading out.
- The scene shifts to Yotaro at a record store. He approaches the cashier with some records of Sukeroku's performances, but she tells him that they don't have any more of his works in their store.
>>151918949
Scene 14:
https://my.mixtape.moe/tjfvtp.webm
- Yotaro sits with Nekosuke and some of the other masters behind the stage at the theatre. All of them begin discussing Sukeroku at Yotaro's behest, singing his praises. Yotaro is curious about hearing more of his performances but can't find his works. The other masters suggest he look through Yakumo's personal collection, as they're sure Yakumo held onto them.
- At home, Yotaro finds a large assortment of recorded Sukeroku performances in the closet. He's impressed by Yakumo's diligence in keeping them and muses that he must've loved the way he performed. He then questions where Yakumo is, since he hasn't seen him at home.
- The scene shifts to Yakumo who is standing on stage in an empty theatre. Matsuda remarks to Yakumo that being at the theatre feels nostalgic, recalling that they were there once to watch a kabuki with Sukeroku (episode 5, I believe). Yakumo recalls it too, as well as Sukeroku's claims that one day he would perform on that stage. Matsuda is elated at the thought that, in a week, Yakumo will perform the first rakugo performance on that theatre. Yakumo, however, muses that while it might be the first, it also might very well be the last.
- Yakumo tells Matsuda that his rakugo simply isn't suited for such a big stage. The stage demands a rakugo for the people, something that entertains and elates, something like the type of rakugo only Sukeroku could pull off. Matsuda leaves as Yakumo goes onto his knees. Yakumo wonders how Sukeroku would have handled those pressures, as the spectre of Sukeroku confronts him with a smile. Yakumo asks him to stop smirking and say something, but as the camera pans back the ghost is no longer there.
>>151918909
Please no, I don't want him to be that type of guy
>>151918830
How did you forget this scene.
First episode was great, and now I'm hyped af.
Can't wait for next week, Anons.
>>151918909
No, he wouldn't, what the fuck?
Not to mention Konatsu wouldn't and she was living away from homo anyway.
Get away you usagi dropped rejects.
>>151918943
Should have made Yotaro gay. Would have killed this retard cuck discussion.
>>151919025
Scene 15:
https://my.mixtape.moe/rjludj.webm
- Konatsu is working in the kitchen of a restaurant, when the manager tells her to bring a tray to one of the rooms as a request from the customer sitting there. She thinks it's probably just some old pervert, when she opens the door the find Yakumo sitting at a table. She's visibly angry at him, yet he smugly tells her to take a seat with him and that he already spoke to her employer about taking some of her time.
- Yakumo asks her why she's been snooping around, trying to find out what happened with him and her father. She tells him she wants revenge, and will look for any evidence to ruin him. He tells her that if she truly thinks he killed Sukeroku then that's fine, because it's mostly true
- He asks her to kill him if she so wishes, but the only thing he will not ever let her do is pursue rakugo. She asks him why, to which he replies that it's just impossible: women are not suited for it and even if one is so skilled as to do well in it she will be stopped or discriminated against until she cannot do it anymore. He adds that a woman in love is a destructive force.
- Konatsu tells Yakumo that she's not just studying Rakugo to be a nuisance or to play around, she wants to preserve the memory and style of her father and to pursue the craft she loves. He tells her that her eyes remind him of some person (try to guess who...). He asks why she had to have been born a woman, which she says she asks herself every day of her life. (;_;)
- In an emotional scene, Yakumo leans and begins to perform "Nozarashi", filled with just as much energy and charisma as her father. As she watches him perform, Konatsu envisions her father through his mannerisms and his voice, bringing her to tears. Yakumo tells her that her father's rakugo lives in his heart, as it lives on in hers. His is a spirit that will not be lost to time.
>>151919043
When nature calls, you have to be that guy.
>>151919102
>Not to mention Konatsu wouldn't and she was living away from homo anyway.
Err, from the home.
>>151919044
i remember now that i see the cap. maybe it was so intimate that i repressed it out of sadness.
>>151919143
Eh, it's still accurate
>>151919113
Scene 16:
- The scene with Yakumo's recital has been modified in the extended version (33:47-41:11 in the broadcast version, 1:06:03-114:11 on disc). - https://my.mixtape.moe/nikded.webm
- There is a small scene that happens at 35:58 in the broadcast version, 1:08:15 on disc (runtime: 0:39). After failing to impress the audience with his performance, Yotaro is met by Mangetsu as he walks backstage. Mangetsu tells him that he disgraced Yakumo and he isn't fit to be called his apprentice. Yotaro looks dejected and a bit terrified.
- Yakumo's performance of "Kajikawaza" is unabridged, with an additional line and visual added in before Yotaro's snores become audible.
- At 42:46 in the broadcast version, 1:15:44 on disc, there's a small sequence added in to show Yotaro walking back home in the snow, chasing a spectre of Yakumo. After that, the final scene plays out exactly the same in both versions.
BONUS: as far as I was able to tell, there was only one more episode to feature a noticeable difference between its Blu-ray edition and the broadcast release, and that was episode 12. The extended version of episode 12 features both its OP and ED, both of which were absent in the broadcast edition, as well as an extended version of Sukeroku's "Shibahama" rakugo. On disc, the rakugo ran from 7:54 to 17:32 (9:38), while the broadcast version ran from 6:23 to 15:09 (8:46), a 0:52 difference. Highly recommended to check out the full version if you are interested in the rakugo aspect of the series, the little details really make it have that much more of an emotional impact
https://my.mixtape.moe/nmlaqz.webm
>>151919365
They hairs were so much better, what a tragedy!
>>151907502
I think song-wise, the first Rakugo OP has the second one beat, but the visuals from a CLEAR understanding that Rakugo sold, they went clear out the window with the second one. Which is what I found better visually.
But that's not to take away what the first OP had, there's clever merits tied to the first one. My favorite quirk of that first OP would be the timing of the tick of a grandfather clock to the slide switching of projected backgrounds, which in itself, give an example to the performance of a Rakugo performer and ties to Yakumo himself as it edges him ever closer to bitter embrace of death.I don't know why I love that idea so much, maybe it's because how it plays the fact it's an OP and doesn't tract away from the viewer for being one.
Class
>>151919171
Many thanks.
I still hope someone gets around to subbing it.
>>151919447
I love Kiku, but let's be honest, he's kinda cunty.
>>151919512
That's what makes him so good
What is his endgame?
>>151919427
I dunno about the song, I think the full version of it will have S1's beat, can't wait till it comes out.
>>151919569
Assisted Suicide.
>>151919569
He's a vampire. He sucked the life out of his old master and now he's sucking off Kiku. That's why Kiku looks 90 but he's like 60.
Konatsu's baby is the next.
>>151919736
>and now he's sucking off Kiku
That's lewd anon
>>151919115
Dammit. Well, I guess I'd let him impregnate me no matter how old he is so it's not that hard to believe.
I think if that was the case we'd have been spoiled long ago, though.
>>151892151
You mistaken 3gatsu from Showa Genroku
>>151892661
>it's actually a consequence of unreliable narrator
What do you mean?
>>151913319
H&C was serialized in a josei magazine but awarded in the Shoujo category in Kodansha mango awards
>>151920088
Miyokichi and Sukeroku's death as shown at the end of S1 is a fiction created by Yakumo. He's telling the story remember?
>>151920652
...Is this an actual spoiler? I'm backing out now.
God damn I love this show so much. What a fantastic episode.
>>151913713
same, that music was stylish af
>>151920757
I haven't read ahead so I'm not sure it's really a spoiler. The flashes in ep 1 to the event are drastically different from what's shown in ep 12 and, again, Yakumo's telling a story to Konatsu no less. He has a vested interest in framing it a certain way.
>>151921002
>Holy shit they fucked themselves, even if whats his face marries her, it'll still be "My wifes son" AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, rakugo officially an anime for hipsters and cucks.
Does it mean we won't get /pol/ tards posts anymore?
I'm OK with being a cuck, I'm gay anyway so no wife son for me.
>>151919102
They really should have made him gay, this is simply sad.
>Her haircuit
>His clingy as shit, desperately trying to please her as she ignores him.
>An absolute betacuck by definition.
>He is asian to top it off.
wew
>>151921125
Even as a gay man i'm sure you somewhere deep down you still feel bad for him, desperately trying to win the affection of some women with a baby.
It's just sad to look at honestly, all memes aside.
>replying
>>151921260
No, who gives a fuck about from where the baby comes from?
>>151921301
Whatever floats your boat anon. I would never willingly raise another man's son while trying to win the affection of the mother.
But if you are ok with being a cuck then more power to you. It's just that most normal people would have second thoughts about these things.
>>151921301
Just knowing, someone nutted in your wife and now you're raising the child. Just cause you're gay doesn't mean you can't comprehend how that would make some one feel.
This dude is such a cuck, that he is excited about it, truly truly sad. He literally begged to raise another mans son.
>>151921546
>Just knowing, someone nutted in your wife and now you're raising the child. Just cause you're gay doesn't mean you can't comprehend how that would make some one feel.
But she's not his wife.
Why would I give a fuck about the fact she had a child?
>mfw /pol/ fags are a regular occurrence in rakugo threads for the rest of the cour
Fuck this earth
>>151921601
see >>151921287
Stop shitting up the thread retard.
>>151915465
Only a giant beta would ever accept used goods.
>>151921769
>4chan user
>Complayins about "used good"
>Doesn't ever get pussy
>Chad
>Doesn't care about purity
>Get pussy daily
>>151921623
/pol/ shit is literally going to be in every thread for every show, they don't actually have to bother watching anything since they only live for shitposting
I'd reckon even LWA threads will be filled with Duerte posting the instant they can get a screenshot of Sucy admitting she's a flip
>>151921002
dumb frogposter
Boy I sure love when mods do nothing
>>151922137
Or you could just not fall for the incredibly obvious bait and just ignore the cuckposters.
>>151922247
This, just report, hide and don't reply you fuckwits.
>>151922137
All we're doing is discussing how much of a loser the MC is. Seriously, what's wrong with him?
>>151919447
Imagine dropping that coal.
MC is gay so cuck meme don't apply. Only Shin was straight and he died like a pathetic loser. Fujo author basically saying don't be straight or you are cursed.
>>151922391
I found the eslfag.
>>151922137
Ignore these fags. They just refuse to stay in their containment boards.
This show will never seize to amaze me.
How the hell can they make something so mundane and seemingly boring be so incredibly enjoyable to watch?
>>151923459
It's opposite actually. How can you make an interesting premise so boring and lifeless?
>>151922391
People hating things you love is a great way to build a stronger affection for that thing. Having to constantly defend something you love usually means that you have to explain all the reasons you love it, and when doing so you're constantly reminded of why you love the thing. It just makes your love for the thing people hate feel more special.
trust me on this one
If Rakugo was a bad show it would die on its own from the lack of people willing to defend it.
I feel like this is better marathoned but I can't wait that long to watch it.
>>151922322
He's a literal cuck. I don't know why people are getting all butthurt about it and crying /pol/. It's one thing to keep memeing that a character is a cuck, but in this case it's not a meme, it's a plot point.
I marathoned it last month, and I agree. This anime just keeps you hooked.
Can't imagine waiting each week for a new episode but I'll have to deal with it now.
when did /a/ attract so many fujos?
>>151924290
I'm not even a fujo. Rakugo is a good show.
>>151921941
on the top of that,She's Visayan. Mambavaran is a bastardization of the word mambabarang, their local version of witch. Duterte is also visayan
I really loved the first season and this is great too but I totally forgot that ten years had passed since the start.
>>151921623
Please. We always deal with /v/egemites and KyoAni normalfags on 3gatsu threads and it's already annoying 2bh. Have fun with your threads
>>151924290
Were you under a rock the entire season when YoI was airing
>>151924846
Same here.
I really need to pay more attention. Or at least take the time to rewatch shows before their next season.
>>151924161
He's an ex con that's fallen in love with a single mom. It's a pretty normal relationship honestly, happens all the time in real life.
It's not the same as a man that enjoys watching his woman fuck other men, you're just exaggerating the meme.
>>151924846
it aired last winter, anon...
>>151924290
There is very little fujo about this show aside from possibly the general artstyle which honestly works kinda well.
People love this show because it's entertaining and well written with sympathetic characters.
>>151921002
Back to /pol/ dumb frogposter.
>>151925977
Is there a version of that episode with subs included? Didn't find it in usual places.
Fuck, I really loved Yota's response to Yakumo when he asked why Yota did Rakugo. This show draws so many parralels. It's amazing really.
The story Yakumo was performing at the ceremony, it felt like a a great insight of the situation Konatsu and Yotaro are in but they didn't let it play out long enough to make the parralels.
>>151891724
AOTY 2016 becomes AOTY 2017
Nice
>>151926552
>all they do is make dismissive non-arguments
Coming from the cuckposter whose main argument is 'it's shit'.
Nobody is going to write you an essay explaining why it's not shit because we've already discussed at length the things we love about it and you are, in fact, exhibit A of a drooling retard who has been filtered out by the 'cuck boy'.
Cutest reaction
>>151926552
>It's shit, that's why no one watches it, cuck boy just gives us more reason for shit posting.
So you just completely dismissed his entire pretty damn valid argument for... what reason?
Let's face it, you have no good reason as to why you think this is a bad show. This is why you're sticking so fucking hard to that "cuck meme". It's easy and you can't think of anything else, because really, you don't HAVE anything else to go on.
>>151927384
He's adorable
/a/ I have a gift! Have a smug old man.
>>151927642
Does anyone have anything they want me to cut out?
>>151927545
>watches an entire season of a show he doesn't even like to shitpost
Now this is real autism.
I can't believe I'm the first one saying this.
Shaft head tilt!
Can you autimos stop replying and shitting up the thread? If you faggots are going to keep doing this shit I hope these threads struggle to make 300 posts again.
>>151927806
The opening rakugo was so fucking fun and well directed, I loved the upside down bit and Yotaro being Yakumo.
>>151891724
I don't get the OP
Someone please explain.
>>151928448
Someone gon' die.
>>151927642
Christ I am so shit at this
Should I rewatch the previous season or do they give a small recap of what happened last time?
>>151928722
There's a recap in the form of a Rakugo performance
>>151928722
>do they give a small recap of what happened last time?
they do
>>151914194
Summoning S.T.A.L.K.E.R
Are you here?
Stitched this together in Paint if anyone cares. (And even if nobody does, I did it anyway.)
>>151929291
I care, I'm so happy it's back I appreciate every little detail
>that moment when jazz music kicks in during a performance
>>151929291
Thank you, can you do the others?
There was one for Kiku too
>>151929555
i knew i was going to like this shit right when it kicked in for the first episode in season 1
Cuckposting aside.Who is the father?
>anons using cuck instead of NTR
Ah fuck, I guess all the crossboarders are gonna be an issue for the season.
Yakumo is the father, calling it now.