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The True Yuri is on The Rise

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Takamatsu: I think the yuri genre is now in its second growth period. The term “yuri” has permeated the general audience, they’re aware of it, and they’re receptive to it. If the time comes when the term “yuri” isn’t needed anymore, it’ll truly be spring for us. I think both Bloom Into You and Happy Sugar Life are both works that display this possibility. With An Introduction to the World of Yuri also helping to create this push of the yuri genre, I truly hope that this is the spark needed to spread the world of yuri in the future.

Kusunoki: Bloom Into You and Happy Sugar Life were sold at almost the exact same time, but there wasn’t any quarrel between us; instead we collaborated friendly and cultivated the good merits of each other’s work. If the overall yuri genre could do this on a larger scale, that would be ideal.

https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/01/04/manga-editors-roundtable-the-growth-of-yuri
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>>>/u/
Stop shilling your shit blog on /a/.
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>>151861294
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>nobody cares about his shit thread
>bump it anyways
/u/fags are pathetic as always.
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>>151861092
Shit author discussing prospects of their shit series - which is none.

At least could have used someone with decent yuri works, hard to tell "yuri is on a rise" when as example are brought out the worst manga ever (also how is Happy Sugar Life yuri? its loli)
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>>151862245
>I know better than professional manga magazine editors in Japan
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>>151862300
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>>151862307
>I know better than professional manga magazine editors in Japan
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>>151862300
>magazine editors desperately trying to promote shit manga
The two titles mentioned are shit and disgrace to shoujo and yuri.
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>>151862347
Of course I do. Where do you think you are?
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>>151861092
Kill yourself son of a bitch.
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>>151861092
What was the first growth period?
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>>151861092
Degenerates will be hanged.
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The great wave of yuri anime is just beginning. Hetfag tears shall flow in the streets.
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>>151862436
I'm gonna guess 2004~2006 with Marimite ,Kannazuki Miko and Simoun, also

>6 posters

You couldn't be more obvious
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>>151862538
>The great wave of yuri anime is just beginning
>posts Citrus
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>>151862545
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LGBT is spreading in Japan.
Yuri is entering mainstream media: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/transitgirls/
The hetfags can't stop it, and they're seething.
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>>151862583
If you are the guy I was quoting then I don't know why the fuck you tought I was talking about you
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>>151862861
I thought you were saying the "growth period" guy was samefagging, but I was pointing out he was IP #6. Only me and the "degenerates" guy were samefagging
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>>151861294
>>151862230
>>151862307
>>151862375
>>151862406
>fujoshits getting ahead of themselves cause yoi shit is selling

Disgusting.
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Archive link

http://archive.is/pmNZ3
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>>151862245
You do know that the author of the series isn't in that interview, right? Did you even read it?

>also how is Happy Sugar Life yuri? its loli
You can be both. Or is Yuzumori not yuri as well?
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>>151862538
>great wave of yuri
>citrus
The thought of equating this garbage to the yuri genre makes me sick.
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You must post as many "Yuri will conquer the Earth" edits as you can.
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>>151861092
NEW CHAPTER WHEN????
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What is the appeal of Bloom Into You?
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>>151864739
It's about a high schooler with unrealistic ideas of love who slowly falls for a girl without even realising it. If that doesn't sound like the cutest shit, there's something wrong with you.
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>>151861294
>shit blog

you're a fucking newfag idiot if you think /a/ is even remotely as good, informative and industry savvy as sakugabooru

/a/ is basically gaia to sakugabooru's /a/, to put it in terms that your tiny underage brain might understand
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yuri is cute?
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>>151862360
>The two titles mentioned are shit and disgrace to shoujo and yuri.
They're both shonen.
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>>151864739
It avoids easy drama that would pad out the plot in favour of actually having the characters interact and, amazingly, talk with each other.
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>>151864739
Yurishit with nice art and zero drama.
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>>151865619
>yagakimi
>no drama
Just because it isn't Citrus-tier it doesn't mean it has zero drama.
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>Kusunoki: Nowadays I hear a lot of yuri fan voices saying shows made for primary schoolgirls like the Precure series or Aikatsu! “are the strongest yuri anime.” It’s amazing that you can recognize something as yuri even with 3D videos like SKE48 PVs! Compared to when I was a child, now it feels like we’re creating the groundwork today for there not to be any uncomfortable feelings when you see two girls together.

fucking degenerates

i bet jews are behind this
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Citrus is fun
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>>151862538

I tried reading this shit and it was intolerable
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>>151865826
No Jews necessary. It's human nature to recognize the purity of love between girls. It happens in every culture.
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I, for one, quite like my forbidden love.
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I think the biggest audience for yuri in japan is female.
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>>151864932
Have a (you) for the effort.
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>>151861092
Bloom into You by Kyoani when? Nakatani Nio is a huge Hibike fan anyway
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Get back to me when good yuri authors can make it past three volumes.
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>>151868539
Not all manga has to be long.
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>>151868539
>what is Girl Friends
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Yuri has mexican telenovela writing tier. The good side of this is after the rise it will die eventually.
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>>151865826
>Nowadays I hear a lot of yuri fan voices saying shows made for primary schoolgirls like the Precure series or Aikatsu! “are the strongest yuri anime.”

Go support something like Flip Flaps or Shakunetsu instead of that kids shit
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>>151862538
how bad did this get I kinda abandoned ship after harumin's sister and that dumb ass student council arc but I remember it being pretty cliche. also seemed like they were gonna make harumin, mei and yuzus next obstacle
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>>151871022
Harumin? But Harumin is leagues better than Mei, do they want us to dislike Mei even more?
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>even yurifags don't like Citrus
why?
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>>151871288
Yurifags love Citrus but it doesn't mean it's free of criticism
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>>151871288
Not as much as Netsuzou Trap.
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>>151871288
Too much forced drama too often.
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>>151871267
>Harumin is leagues better than Mei
this is true but like I said its been a minute since I read and mei and yuzu's relationship being tested by a third party seemed like the theme of manga to me. considering pic realted and that girl from the trip
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>>151862538
>Kannazuki no Miko
2,625
>Strawberry Panic
2,527
>Sakura Trick
2,376
>Simoun
1,052
>Aoi Hana
844
>Sasameki Koto
615

Even BL sells better than yuri, and BL sells like shit.
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>>151871357
Do they?

http://7oku.hatenablog.com/entry/2016/12/25/123536
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>>151871818
Who even cares about sales. It already exists so I can watch it.
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>>151871818
Thankyou for making me reply to this thread

>Yaoi 2010-2016
(TV series) Dramatical Murder
(OVA) DRAMAtical Murder: Data_xx_Transitory
(TV series) Junjou Romantica 3
(OVA) Koisuru Boukun
(OVA) Kono Danshi, Ningyo Hiroimashita.
(OVA) Kono Danshi, Sekika ni Nayandemasu
(OVA) Kono Danshi, Uchuujin to Tatakaemasu.
(TV series) Love Stage
(TV series) No.6
(TV series) Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi
(TV series) Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi 2
(Movie) Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai
(OVA) Sex Pistols
(TV series)Togainu no Chi

>Yuri 2010-2016
(TV series) Akuma no Riddle
(TV series) Cross Ange
(TV series) Gokujyo
(TV series) Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san
(TV series) Kin-iro Mosaic
(TV series) Hello! Kin-iro Mosaic
(OVA) Kuttsukiboshi
(TV series) Locodol
(OVA) Locodol OVA
(TV series) Mikagura Gakuen Kumikyoku
(TV series) Sabagebu
(OVA) Sabagebu Specials
(TV series) Sakura Trick
(OVA) SonoHana: Anata no Koibito Tsunagi
(TV series) Valkyrie Drive
(TV series) Yuri Kuma Arashi
(TV series) YuruYuri
(TV series) YuruYuri S2
(OVA) YuruYuri Nachuyachumi!
(TV series) YuruYuri Nachuyachumi! +
(TV series) YuruYuri SanHai
(OVA) Yuri Seijin Naoko-san
(OVA) Yuri Seijin Naoko-san (2012)
Yaoi's top 3 best sellers:
Junjou Romantica: 9K
_Dramatical Murder: 5K
No.6: 3K

Yuri's top 3 best sellers
GochiUsa: 11K
Marimitte: 10K
Yuru Yuri: 7K
Kin-iro Mosaic: 5K
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It's a tragedy that some "people" are misguided enough that even the light of a girl loving another girl can reach their blackened hearts.

There's nothing you can do for them except pity their existence, really.
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>>151872669
You mean "can't"?
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>>151872245
>yuri
>Cross Ange
It has lesbians in it but it's not yuri.
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>>151861092
If yuri is on the rise, then Ikuni will announce his next yuri series and deliver once again.

>>151862436
I think yuri took a rise when anime like Aoi Hana, Sakura Trick, and Yuri Kuma Arashi aired. At least, after the 00s and when we hit the 10s. It may not have been significant, however, noticeable.
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>>151869129
>Girl Friends
Has Morigana had a series go on that long since then?
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>>151861092
I'm not a huge fan of yuri, but at least it tends not to be your generic light novel harem.
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>>151872999
That anon must be clinically retarded, MC had a boyfriend, she even fucked him an she was also fucked by the male villain.
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>>151862538
anime when?
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>>151872245
You're missing several things in the yaoi list and including lots of things that aren't yuri in the yuri list. May as well count Yuri on Ice an every single fujobait show as yaoi if Sabagebu and Cross Ange are yuri.
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>>151878319
Later this year. Of all the fucking yuri manga to get anime adaptations, why did it have to be Citrus and Netsuzou Trap?
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>>151872245
Now, for the yuri one, try discarding the ones that actually have confirmed lesbians in it, and see how many you end up with.
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>>151878419
because they are the most popular manga in yurihime magazine

popular =/= good
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>>151878419
I want a Nanashi anime. 2cute4me.
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>>151861092
>True Yuri on the rise.
Yes, Yuri on ice is doing something real awesome.
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>>151871521
>raclette
10/10 taste
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>>151869344
Precure is unironically better than Flip Floppers.
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>>151878611
>yurifags, yaoifags, trapfags, tomboyfags, and incestfags all in the same thread
Oh god.
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>>151869344
Can dog girls love cat girls?
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>>151878611
>>151878845
Sounds like good fun
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>>151872245
>messing up the difference between shoujo ai and yuri
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>>151861092
Call me back when there's confirmed engagement and actual interaction such as kissu as a couple in a yuri series.

>>151878845
>yurifags, yaoifags, trapfags, tomboyfags, and incestfags all in the same thread
/a/ in a nutshell.
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>>151879228
>using this artifical division like it means something
fucking casuals
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>>151879572
>Call me back when there's confirmed engagement and actual interaction such as kissu as a couple in a yuri series.
To be fair, even regular series tend to lack this.
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>>151878845
And yet the shitposting is surprisingly tame, what kind of magic is this?
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>>151872279
>I literally can not function or cope with life unless I spiting and attacking people who has said they are against with what I like
Notice how before you showed up on this site shitting up every single thread with Madoka crack was never a thing. This is why makes it obvious you're just one pathetic loser with a grudge.
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>>151881710
The incredible magical power of not being a seasonal anime.
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>>151879228
>shoujo ai
HE SAID IT!

EVERYONE TAKE A DRINK!
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>ctrl+f Love Live
>0 results

Interdasting.
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>>151875534
>give me an example of yuri manga longer than 3 volumes
>alright, here's an example
>b-but they c-couldn't r-repeat the same l-length ever s-since, so that d-doesn't count
Why are you being so pathethic?

Also, the amount of volumes has nothing to do with the quality of the actual story.
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Bloom into You
AnoKiss
Adachi & Shimamura

Any one would be a glorious anime adaptation. Indeed there has been an unexpected new surge of good yuri series in the last year.
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>>151879572
You must have missed a few years of actual yuri manga because nowadays there's almost no ambiguity in yuri hime esque stories about the gayness and the commitment to the relationship. Fans simply do not want the oh so cleverly vagueness of what yuri is from a few years ago and in general actual yuri fans do not like yuri when it happens in SoL or other mainstream genre and is bound to result in nothing.

The author of Bloom into You for example, explicitly stated that he wanted to write a yuri that is bold and clearly about romantic relationship and that's what the protagonists are struggling to resolve in the series. And that's why these kind of stories are so much better than brainless shit like Citrus.
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>>151879572
>Call me back when there's confirmed engagement and actual interaction such as kissu as a couple in a yuri series.
I'm going to disregard the engagement part, as that rarely happens even in the shoujo/romance series.

As for the confirmed relationship and kissu
>Ano Ko ni Kiss to Shirayuri wo
>Citrus
>Girl Friends
>Asagao to Kase-san.
>Hana to Hoshi
Is this enough to prove my point?
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>>151882470
Love Live isn't yuri, shithead.
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>>151882789
>Love Live isn't yuri
Consider self-destruction.
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>>151882847
>posts yuri doujin
Typical yurifag response.
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>>151882789
>this shit again
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>>151882847
If you must post idol yuribait, at least post IM@S their fanbase is actually capable of writing some good doujins instead of the garbage that is LL doujin market.
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>>151882898
So basically, all you know of either franchise is from what doujins you've fapped to.
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>>151882879
>>151882898
>doujin
>being this much in denial
You lot really can't get more pathetic can you?
It was the fucking official manga. Now burn.
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>>151882885
>no kissing
>no fucking
>no love confessions
It's not yuri. In any way. Closest thing to yuri is Sakurako's fanfiction, and even that is yuribait at best.
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>all these butthurt fag tears
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>>151882940
Why would you assume that?
I've seen every series from both LL and IM@S (including the garbage that is Cinderella Girls).

My point stands.
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>>151882991
This isn't what yuri means, and looks like you don't know the difference between bait and subtext.
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Name a better yuri moment
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>>151883119
>replying
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>>151882991
Yuri is not the same thing as the disgusting breeding procedure known as het
Do you even know why it is called the purest form of love?
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>>151883348
With lolicon yuri elements.
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>>151883168
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>>151883397
>MC goes with alpha dyke cuz she is muh Onee-sama
>quirky, fun, bestie left in the dust

Disgusting.
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>>151883397
Shizuma a shit
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>>151883570
I don't understand Japan's fetish for 'mature' people to always auto-win in shoujo.
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>>151883684
It's not only Japan but plenty of female fans of the series loved Shizu whereas it's hard to imagine any male fans liking her that much. I didn't care for Tamao either but I was buttdevasted when Yaya got cucked.
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>>151883570
>>151883640
Tamaofags still salty after 11 years
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>>151883906
And thanks to that, every yuri with a Yaya in it since has her get cucked, it must be some kind of conspiracy.
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>>151883684
It's a thing in shoujo that there MUST be some kind of dominant part in a relationship (much like the Erastes and the Eromenos, but in an actual romantic relationship). Thus, things can end up playing out this way.
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>>151861092
I don't care for yuri in particular but that series is fucking good yuri or not, the writing is above your average manga.
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>tfw mother/twin daughter yuri incest love-triangle romance anime
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>>151883906
Strawberry Panic was created by a woman and it has a large female following so stay mad tamaofag
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I heard awhile back that NTR was getting an anime is this true?
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LMAO
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>>151884458
Yes, Citrus and NTR anime were announced together.
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>>151884501
I'm indifference to citrus since I thought the first few chapter were pretty alright, but NTR was shit from the start why is that getting an anime?
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>>151884601
Because shoujo with lesbians is more popular than yuri.
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When are we going to get more Twilight yuri?
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>>151884601
Because NTR is super popular. It's got all the drama of a daytime soap and a unique quirk (girls cheating on their boyfriends with each other)
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>>151861092
These are exciting times
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>>151864895
>It's about a high schooler with unrealistic ideas of love who slowly falls for a girl without even realising it.

It such good potential
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>>151868435
>Bloom into You by Kyoani when? Nakatani Nio is a huge Hibike fan anyway

I can see Naoko Yamada's touch to be perfect for it
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>>151884897
>Naoko Yamada's touch
Wouldn't she claim that it's just adolescence again?
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>>151871288
It's a "I drop it every two months" relationship.
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>>151884726
>(girls cheating on their boyfriends with each other)
>>151884726

Surprised there hasn't been boys cheating on their girlfriends for each other
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>>151884956
Considering the manga is explicitly yuri canon, she HAS to conform
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>>151885183
Adolescence Sayaka, end her suffering.
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>>151862406
Mike Pence pls go.
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>>151885220
That would be rather hard to do, considering Sayaka's senpai already pulled an adolescence on her, and the point of showing Sayaka's first love was to show that she had become comfortable with her own sexuality.
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Yuri isn't real, it's just a phase.
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UwU
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Why does this board hate /u/?
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>>151885868
This manga is so good.
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>>151861092
Gunna suck once Mike "End the gays with Gamma Rays" Pence takes office. You degenerates are toast.
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>>151861092
>second growth period

But most of it is still Class S and subtext.
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>>151885868
The beauty of 2D is that it can be anything you want, reddit-kun.
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>>151878845
>both a yuri and yaoifag

This thread is amazing.
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>>151886043
Just shitposting as far as I can tell. Isn't /u/ just a slow ass image/info general board? Sometimes I go there for links in threads that are months old.
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>>151886367
Back to tumblr, whale.
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>>151886446
/u/ is the crossbreed of /a/ and tumblr
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>>151886549
>he hasn't learned how to appreciate the beauty of the purest love and the sexiest love yet
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>>151886738
>yaoi
>sexy
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>>151886787
It is.
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>>151886446
I hate /u/ because they shit talk male characters just for having dicks.
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>>151886825
Nah. Go choke on a dick you fucking bisexual whore.
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>>151886833
If /y/ was a discussion board they'd probably shit talk females for having vaginas
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Any recommendations for romance shoujo ai like Bloom Into You? I just picked it up and its great
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>>151886904
Suit yourself but remember I'm /a/lways here.
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>>151886941
Citrus. Very good, it's even getting anime!
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>>151886978
Remember that when the day comes I will personally come to you and hang you from your tits while I beat you to death with metal dildos. That will be your punishment for being a bislut and a fujoshit. May Jesus save your soul from hell.
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>>151886941
If you want cute stuff you could read Morinaga Milk works, Girl Friends is like baby's first yuri series
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>>151886833
And male posters as well, they deserve it.
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>rise on yuri
No, why? Because yuri has no market, most girls like guys being gay for other guys, so you assume guys like girls being gay for other girls right? NO, they like girls liking THEM. Sometimes light yuri gets mixed with cgdct and ends up selling, but dont get it wrong, people buying those arent buying for the yuri, but for the fact that there arent males they are interested around, making possible (in their twisted minds) for the girls to like THEM. It's what happens with things like Idol shows or cute SoLs.

I like yuri, but i can clearly see that unike yaoi which has the massive fujoshi crowd behind it, yuri will always be a niche genre which at best is ClassS tier for the sake of purity.
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>>151886981
I'll add it to my reading list, thanks.

>>151887033
I think I like the uncomfortable and slight anxiety from the characters in Bloom into You. I feel like I read a yuri manga awhile back with a similar feeling that I liked too.
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>>151887054
Is that pasta?

And I wonder if that one guy who always uses Matsuri reaction pics is happy about the citrus anime. Wish I could slap that smug loser.
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>>151862245
>Shit author discussing prospects of their shit series
The author isn't even interviewed in the article you fucking moron
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>>151887032
/pol/ pls. I'm straight. Yaoi and yuri are just 2D aesthetics that don't seem to work too well in 3D.
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>>151887054
>so you assume guys like girls being gay for other girls right? NO

I'm a guy and I like girls being gay for each other, is your argument invalid now?
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>>151887243
>I'm straight
That's what they all believe, sis.
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>>151887280
Are you Japanese and buys BDs and merchandaise of airing anime? If not you are not part of the market.

>>151887132
Not pasta, check the archive.
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>>151887407
I bought an Iona deck and some yuri games (of jap origin) on steam
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>>151887381
Eh I've been doing this long enough to know what I like. You probably should get out more and talk to different types of people. Not all yuri/yaoifags are the obnoxious tumblr SJW types.
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>>151887444
That's a cute Yuusha you got there but that doesnt change the fact there is no real "yuri market" or at least, not in the level of yaoi, so they can't "rise". Another simple way too check that? Go to sadpanda and look at how many yuri tanks there are (and remember, "girl only" tag as well otherwise you will end up with tons of "yuri" where a guy fucks two girls while they are kissing) and then check how many yaoi tank there are. The difference is massive, because the demands are vastly different.

>>151887637
That's the curse of /u/ and /y/, normal anime fans have to share it with SJW faggots.
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>>151861092
>Just bought this manga at the bookstore
>Immediately see a thread about it when I come back home

Spooky!
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>>151887637
>Not all yuri/yaoifags are the obnoxious tumblr SJW types.
Huh, I did not say that, you seem very defensive.
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>>151887712
>the fact there is no real "yuri market" or at least, not in the level of yaoi, so they can't "rise"

Isn't the whole concept of ''rising'' to become more popular so you can get that market
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>>151861092
>Takamatsu: I think the yuri genre is now in its second growth period. The term “yuri” has permeated the general audience, they’re aware of it, and they’re receptive to it. If the time comes when the term “yuri” isn’t needed anymore,

What did he mean by this?
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>>151884055

> spot the yayakafag
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>>151887977
When every anime has yuribait/subtext, none of them do.
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>>151888024
Please empathize and apologize.
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>>151887869
Other way around, a simple case of supply and demand, there is no incentive from creators to make supply if there is no demand. For there to be a yuri "rise" you need a big demand, so that the the market can supply. And there is no yuri HUGE demand, it's a small niche that doesnt justify creation of more supply.

>>151887977
I'm gonna assume that the "yuri" he is saying is equivalent of yuribait, and not real yuri, and that his manga will help propagate proper yuri and not "yuri".

Otherwise this syndrome shit here >>151888065
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>>151888141
Yayaka pls.

Pls.

Find a nice girl to settle down with. ;_;
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>>151888144
I don't really understand what this guy >>151888065 wanted to say, but it's nice if an editor wants more proper yuri becoming mainstream, tough if there wasn't really a market anime like Citrus and NTR wouldn't be getting announced
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>>151888065
>>151888144
I think you're both kind of idiots.

And I also think it's pretty clear that he meant a time when there won't be a need to separate the terms "yuri" and "yaoi", and instead it will all just be "romance".
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>>151887712
Yuri is for the heart, why would I want porn of it?
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>>151888276
Makes sense but if that ever happens it'll become way harder to find yuri stuff
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>>151888279
>not wanting a heartboner simultaneously while masturbating
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give me more yuzumori-san
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>>151888346
>staining the purest form of love with your cum
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>>151888024
>The city of Sa/Yaya/ka
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>>151888276
Ah, yes, that makes more sense indeed, but it's a silly thing to think because "romance" doesnt cover who's fucking who, and that is important in my anime, i dont want no gay boys and like >>151888313 said, it makes it easier to find what i want, the tags will never go away.

>>151888222
Well, it's not like there is NO demand for it, but not enough to make a grow on the market, and every now and then a yuri manga is adapted to see if it they are the first to get that "hidden potential" yuri market but they always underperform, showing the lack of interest.

>>151888279
>>151888387
This guy >>151888346 speaks the truth, truly loving a genre needs to be loved in all of it's forms.
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>>151872245
>GochiUsa
>yuri.
how delusional one can be
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>read romance manga with no yuri tag
>has yuri
Not once, many times. Tired of this shit
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>>151890484
Well if it's just side characters or some shit then it shouldn't be tagged as such.
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>>151861092
>Second flop of yuri is comming
I can't wait for the tears to flow as show get no sales because they're shit.
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>>151890670
Are you implying things only sell if they're good?
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>>151890691
No, I'm implying that even if it's good if there's no sales it'll be abandoned as a failure again.
Also
>implying yuri show in the last decade were good
I'd post smug anime girls but it mess with other things.
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>>151890751
Nowhere in your previous post did you imply that. That's an entirely new point you brought up just now.
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>>151890785
I was clarifying because you asked me if I made an implication I didn't. There's three way for a show to sell, hit a popular niche with people ready to spend money. Being good at the start and thus having some general popularity. Riding the popularity of previous release with connected works.
Yuri doesn't fall in any of the three category. The yuri market doesn't buy, the tropes yuri authors use make the majority of show unwatchable and they don't know how to handle derived materials.
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>>151890751
>implying yuri show in the last decade were good
Some were good
Some were bad
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>>151886227
Not in manga though.
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>>151887101
> uncomfortable and slight anxiety
Nanashi no Asterism
Octave
Dear My Teacher
Fragments of Love
Fluttering Feelings
My Ignorance of a World Yet Unknown
Philosophia
Sasameki Koto
The Flower and the Star
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>>151885868
Nanashi no Asterism is so fucking good Kotooka a best
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>>151891110
>Sasameki Koto

What a letdown this one was. And for that matter, Aoi Hana was also kind of a letdown. Both of them start strong, but somewhat stumble at the finish line, though Aoi Hana not as much.

Bloom Into You has been hitting the right notes though so far, so I can only hope they don't fucked it all up.
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>Tamaofags

Why are they still salty? I mean I personally din't like it but it was pretty much clear from the very beginning. What is the actual worse offense is that little cunt Hikari who broke poor best girl Yaya's heart. UNFORGIVABLE.
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>>151891529
They're mad because they self-inserted somehow. I mean even I got a little mad, but I understood, so by the end I was just a bit annoyed even though I was expecting it.

But yeah, what happened to Yaya can just fuck off. Its basically the personification of yuri sterotypes (muh beautiful princess + prince like girl). Its extra bad because of its similarities to the main characters (best friend who has been by their side since the beginning get sidelined for someone the MC barely knows)

The bullying was top notch though.
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>>151865426
Funny thing is, when Bloom Into You goes full drama it becomes as hilarious as your favorite run of the mill drama. It's only good when it's subtle and comfy. If that is the best ongoing work yuri can offer in terms of aesthetic merit, then it is really telling of the overall standard of the genre (or in any others, since it's probably one of the few romance manga that is not pure shit).
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>Age gap Drama Horror Lolicon Mystery School girl Yandere Yuri
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>>151891873
Apparently its extremely popular in japland. I guess the edge really sells
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>>151888141
I don't even watch the show, but this looks like suffering.
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Anime soon
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>>151892304
>Happy Sugar Life and Yuzumori-san anime adaptations in the same season
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>>151892335
You want yuri anime to get banned, anon?
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>>151892304
>yfw director gets thrown into prison for making a lolicon masterpiece after a public outcry
Best way to go down in the history of art.
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>>151892372
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>>151892361
just to see the shitstorm
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>>151887101
Yuuki Yuuna has angst.
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>>151882511
Cause the thread is about the health of the genre today not when Girlfriends came out.
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>>151892236
>the edge is calling tonight
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Yuri is good
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>>151891832
It hasn't gone full drama yet. I'm ready for the angst impact though.
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Yuri producers should take note of Yuri on Ice.
Be explicit about it
Have a good story or subject
Have good production value

Not show about schoolgirls doing nothing.
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>>151896724
>yuri on ice
>explicit
It's not though.
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>>151896724
The fujo market is vastly different from the yuri market.
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>>151896965
Considering how nothing sell, they're obviously missing the majority of it.
At the very least as a yuri fan myself, japan isn't producing a single anime that appeal to me.

What's the manga on the bottom right?
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>>151897079
ntr
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>>151896965
Most notable difference seems to be the size of the willing buyer customerbase.
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>>151897137
>Most notable difference seems to be the size of the willing buyer customerbase.

How do we super grow that?
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>>151897446
By making things that are good.
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>>151897079
>japan isn't producing a single anime that appeals to me.
That's because they aren't trying to appeal to white piggu gaijin like you.
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>>151897801
They seemingly aren't trying to appeal to anyone yeah.
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>>151897079
>Considering how nothing sell, they're obviously missing the majority of it.
I think the market is just that small. Japanese yuri fans buy shit they don't even like that much, desperately sent filled surveys to publishers showing that there's a demand for yuri but at the end of the day all we have is just a niche within a niche. It can't sustain a reasonable profit.
I believe the future of profitable yuri lays within alpha+yuri concept to scoop those who don't mind yuri to an extent where they'd be comfortable with reading/watching something plot driven but with lesbians. Unfortunately, all of attempts to do this failed pretty hard.
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>>151897851
>something plot driven but with lesbians
Well the latest attempt at this was Flip Flappers and it bombed because the plot sucked.
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Murcielago anime when?
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is there any other yuri manga like Prism? but preferably a decent length? ;_;

i just love how authentic it feels, they're actually sexually attracted to each other (and have sex, and kiss all the time), they actually get bullied a couple times, etc.
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>>151897851
>I think the market is just that small.
Is japan really that gay? There's no way

>alpha+yuri
That should be obvious, no one with some kind of tastes would watch something with no plot or even interesting characters, regardless of the type of romance the show has
Trash like Sakura Trick shouldn't exist, it's no wonder no one bought it, it doesn't even deserves a watch.
Anime producers seem to think yuri anime must have an exclusive yuri artstyle and plot template or something, but I think this is wrong.
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>>151898292
Octave.
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It's a shame most anime are essentially adverts, so anything that's actually finished doesn't stand a chance of getting animated. Out of the Blue / Fleeing from my Best Friend, for instance, would be great as an OVA series.
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>>151871288
It's like /a/ and Nisekoi.
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Banana no Nana reboot and subsequent anime adaptation when?
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>>151890670
But both the series in OP are unexpected success for the publisher, considering how niche they are. YagaKimi currently sells better than 3/4 of the stuff in Dengeki now, thus all the editors are coming out to promote it.
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>>151898918
Anime fucking when?
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>>151898916
>Banana no Nana
That author is cursed. Did he has at least one work that wasn't cancelled?
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>>151898918
>make generic yuri, but with at least some good art
>it sell well
WOW
It's as if making yuri with good art and good plot might also sell just as well.
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>>151899109
You forgot
>run it in a mainstream magazine
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>>151899109
>It's as if making yuri with good art and good plot might also sell just as well.
What series?
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>>151899109
>yagakimi
>generic
No.
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>>151899795
Well that's the problem.
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>>151899839
Sniff haah
Pure ideololi
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>>151871288
"Dropped Every Month: The Series"
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>>151899109
What's wrong with the plot of the manga in the OP?
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Literally me.
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>>151901714
So you're a creepy, asexual stalker who is probably going to grow up to be a serial killer.
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>>151896965
>The fujo market is vastly different from the yuri market.
So much this.
Although there is definitely some overlap.

Also,
>wife wife
>Platonic
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Don't worry guys this season is off to a good start.
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>>151899109
Like Flip Floppers?
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>>151902224
The other end of that axis is Erotic. Wife and Wife might be married but their physical relationship is still very "pure."
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>yuri is on the rise
>yuri shows flop without fail
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>>151902463
>Flip Flapper
>good plot
>yuri
Pick only one.
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>>151902546
Yuri manga are getting more and more mainstream.
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>>151902632
Considering where they're starting from that's not an accomplishment.
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>>151902322
WHERE'S MY SUBS

WHERE'S MY FUCKING SUBS
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>>151898104
>Murcielago anime when?

That one is perfect for a Netflix outing so it won't get screwed by broadcast edits
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>>151902678
It is.
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>>151899158
>You forgot
>>run it in a mainstream magazine

That's a good point. The guys at Dengeki Daioh really sowed the seeds on that

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Bloom into You anime in 2018
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>>151902322
Maidragon looks gay as fuck too
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Happy sugar life is actually really good, less yuri and more creepy as fuck
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>>151902929
It is to an extent. Tohru wants to F U C K Kobayashi's brains out but it's mostly used for gags.
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Yuri is too softcore, where's the s&m, femdom and cowtit characters? I'd like to see how yuri rape is done in a romance.
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>>151902587
It was the deepest yuri since Yuri Kuma Arashi
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>>151903090
Isn't the only yuri since Yuri Kuma Arashi?
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>>151903109
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>>151903436
It's not yuri? I didn't watch it.
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Bloom Into You ~play plot~ outcomes:

1. During the training camp Sayaka learns the true "relationship" between Touko and Yuu. Feeling she isn't fit for the role anymore she orchestrates for her and Yuu to swap roles in the play. Yuu ends up getting really into her new role but it's just a play so there's no way it's serious! It's just he feelings of her character...right?
2. Play goes on normally and Yuu sees Sayaka playing Touko's lover, causing her to feel a bit of jealousy but it's just a play so there's no way it's serious.
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>>151861092
Why are the newer yuri shows so shit nowadays, /a/? They're all either cowardly subtext or plotless pandering.

There used to be a time when yuri was half-decent.
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>>151903804
>no octave
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>>151903804
Love Lab is still my all time favorite yuri anime. I'm really happy Dogakobo is already working on S2.
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>>151903896
That image is bait.
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>>151904002
Exactly.
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>>151903804
Shitsuraken is still yuri and has a yuri end. Not sure why it's on this joke list.
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>>151903896
Octave is a proper yuri manga with a proper yuri ending. Just because the MC went full fucking retard and THAT happened, it doesn't mean you should cast it away. People do stupid things they end up regretting deeply all the damn time.
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I'm getting tired of all that cutesy bullshit. I want raunchy yuri with horny girls that lust after each other.
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>>151904151
P R I S M
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>>151904220
>have actually good yuri series
>cancelled because tracing scandal
Fuck Japan.
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>>151904151
Calm down Shuninta, sorry your last series got axed.
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>>151904259
Even if it got cancelled, you can read the whole thing as a completed manga anyway.
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>>151904220
>>151904259
>Prism
>good
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>>151904378
>Flip Flappers ended in het.
What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>151904488
>cute girls lustfully kissing
>bad
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>>151903804
>no Yuri on Ice
You had one job
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>>151904378
>Izetta ended in het.
Nani?
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>>151904488
>it wasn't my generic asexual schoolgirls taking 50 chapters to kiss and/or confess so it was bad
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>>151904378
>Shows like Sakura Trick are false and the girls in them will marry men, they don't love women.
You need to update your shitpost anon.
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>>151904378
>Nanoha doesn't live Fate.
>live
You're drunk m8.
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>>151904378
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>>151904378
What about Aoi Hana?
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Good start.
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>>151904993
Chinks can post on 4chan?
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>>151905058
Nothing can't be achieved with the power of yuri
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>>151902474
There's nothing pure in Wife and Wife.
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>>151903039
Look up Corruption's Finale by Mira
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>>151905165
Won't you and your family get sent to the iPhone slavery if they catch you browsing haram websites?
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>>151903804
> Happy End
Still raging over that one
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>>151905181
She was just taking a shower. What's wrong with that?
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>>151904541
>>151904838
I don't mind smut. I just prefer a story to go along with it.
Or at least something better than:
>let's kiss
>okay
>10 pages of making out
>end chapter
>(also tracing)
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>>151905686
Prism was good because it was a realistic representation of teenage girls going out.
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>>151906142
>realistic
>one of the side characters had Kamiizumi Syndrome
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>>151906574
the fuck is Kamiizumi Syndrome?
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>>151907042
It's what that one girl from Kashimashi had: when you see men as only greyish blobs.
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>>151907193
I thought that's just a stylistic choice for the page, not what she's realistically seeing. Their speech looks garbled too but she still understands what they said. I found that chapter difficult to understand though because the flashbacks (?) are implemented weirdly
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>>151906142
I still get mad over Stretch. Fuck that author.
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>>151907403
What happened in Stretch?
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>>151898592
Source?
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>>151907482
>Out of the Blue / Fleeing from my Best Friend
Learn to read

>>151907480
WOMANCE ending
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>>151907480
Nothing, and that's the problem. Its starts going down the yuri freeway bit by bit, and then the manga just ends pretty much for no reason.
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>>151907403
>Stretch
Stretch felt like revenge for his actual yuri series getting canceled.
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>all these buttblasted fujoshis
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>>151861092
stop advertising your site
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>>151907480
SUPER FRIENDS.
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I cry everytime ;_;
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>>151903804
Haven't seen Shinsekai Yori. Heard two dudes kissed. Do girls kiss there too? Wouldn't be surprised if the boys got more physically intimate scenes.
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>>151908392
It takes place in a post apocalyptic society that has teens bang with other teens of their same sex so they get their sex fix without impregnating themselves, instead of you know, using contraceptives, and then when they grow up they get to marry somebody of the opposite sex so they can have kids. Basically the whole "it's just a phase" bullshit taken to the extreme. Oh, and of course one of the girls who clearly loves the MC girl, has lots of horrible things happening to her.
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>>151908392
Every character is bisexual (in the setting, everyone is raised to love and have sex with everyone else, in order to keep them complacent, or something like that) and it gives about equal screen time to girls kissing girls and boys kissing boys. It isn't a significant part of the show though, just a bit of worldbuilding, and it eventually ends with a het marriage between the 2 surviving characters
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>>151905165
How does she do it?
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>>151911312
By not getting subbed.

Captcha: school virgen
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>>151911603
I can wait until Sunday
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Is Saki yuri?
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>>151912515
Is it?
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>>151912515
The Saki website had tags for Yuri in it's header for search engines to see.
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>>151883168
oh easy
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>9/10 yuri shows flipflop
>"w-we're doing better the ever!"
>meanwhile almost every yaoi show at least breaks even

You clowns are a riot.
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>>151892335
crossover when
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>>151913994
Yet there hardly any Yaoi anime. Fujoshit is niche too.
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>>151861092
With Citrus and Netsuzou Trap -NTR- getting their own anime adaptations, truly this is the next advent
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Why don't they make a series called Yaoi off water?
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>>151914193
I'd prefer Yaoi on Fire because fujos must burn but hey
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What's the yuri term for fujoshi?
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>>151861092
I hope I'll be alive to see Bloom into You bloom into an anime.
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>>151914239
If Yuri on Ice was about ice skating gay men, would that make Yaoi on Fire be about fire breathing lesbians? Because I'd watch the fuck out of that.
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>>151914320
yuri isn't as pervading as yaoi to warrant a term like that
outside of /u/ that is
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>>151914400
Nyaruko has a literal fire breathing lesbian, i believe
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>>151914320
I've seen yuripig used sometimes.
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>>151914454
It falls in the typical harem trap "Well Nyarlko loves you so I guess I can love you too" bullshit.
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>>151914320
I think they just call them yuributa when referring to annoying male fans.
There isn't much of a fanbase for "yuri" as cohesive genre or entire body of works, just a smattering of obnoxious fetishist otaku and a small but extremely vocal subculture of japanese lesbians that bitterly realized they couldn't make outright lesbian smut and have it sell, so have been trying unsuccessfully to hijack yuri and turn it into blatant lesbian smut for about a decade now.

Most "yuri" works tend to have another paired genre and gimmick which draws the audience. Yuri for yuri's sake is pretty much exclusively the realm of niche gay manga for niche gay audiences.
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>>151913994
Stop using Iona to shitpost
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>>151914620
But

Fire breathing lesbian
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>>151914736
>they have been trying unsuccessfully to hijack yuri and turn it into blatant lesbian smut for about a decade now
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>>151914817
Well, there's also Tooru now.
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>>151914899
>draw a man and call it a girl

That's even worse than

>draw a girl and call it a guy
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>>151914620
>It falls in the typical harem trap "Well Nyarlko loves you so I guess I can love you too"

If you are gonna add a lesbian character to your harem at least make her stay a lesbian for fucks sake
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>>151915023
It gets done right, sometimes.
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>>151914994
I don't know, Kobayashi reminds me of my sister, to be honest.
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>>151915023
Why even have a lesbian in the harem? What purpose does it serve?

If a heterosexual harem is going to have a lesbian character, at least give them another lesbian to be lesbians with. The orbiting predator dyke is a stupid writing cliche.
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when are we going to get a proper yuri harem series?
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>>151915610
2 years ago.

Otherwise hope for something like an Iono or Yuricam adaptation, neither of which will probably happen since they're older.
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>>151915610
Ange Vierge
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>>151915296
The same reason girls in a harem don't display attraction towards other male characters; the MC must be the sole target of affection. Harem a shit.
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>>151915878
The target audience for that show was literally high school girls

It'd be great if we can just pick up a random harem show and make the MC a girl, but no studio has ever done that
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>>151915937
Saya seems so happy to be a harem lead.
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>>151916198
She's finally special
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>>151915296
What do you expect of LN authors? The only thing they can do is writing cliches.
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>>151887444
>is an extreme nationalist in a nation that looks down harshly on homosexuality
>is a raging homo
explain this
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>>151878611
Don't we all?
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>>151916327
Well there's Hidan no Aria AA but Akari doesn't appear in the main series

>>151916335
Tougou has been proven time to time to be a hypocrite
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>>151902546
>what is YuYuYu
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>>151916335
>a nation that looks down harshly on homosexuality
>Japan
Nope.
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>>151917230
>went on such an autistic sperg session that he had to kill himself afterward
wait a second...
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>>151917375
I wonder what was her contingency plan if the fairies didn't stop her from killing herself
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>>151917486
She wouldn't be suffering anymore.
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>>151917375
She even created her own one-man Tatenokai as soon as she regained use of her legs.

There's no way that she wasn't intended as a lesbian spoof of Yukio Mishima.
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reminder that Chikane and Himeko are the love
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>>151914736
>Most "yuri" works tend to have another paired genre and gimmick which draws the audience.
You mean like pretty much any romance work? At the very least it’s coupled with excruciatingly dumb drama and VERY SAD PASTS in shoujo manga and the like.
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>>151861092
>GanGan Joker
>literally all garbage shit titles

GanGan Online is where it's at.

And yurishit will never be mainstream. Simply because most yurishit titles are garbage.
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>>151918651
Nanashi no Asterism is from Gangan Online.
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>>151915296
The lesbian thing is just another obstacle for the MC to overcome with his passivity and blandness. It helps a lot that Japan doesn't believe lesbianism is real
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>>151915296
>>Why even have a lesbian in the harem? What purpose does it serve?
For the same reason lesbos in mudlsime countries marry the husband of girls they like.
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>>151914108
>With Citrus and Netsuzou Trap -NTR- getting their own anime adaptations, truly this is the next advent

It's also the biggest test to see how market valuable it is

Unless Bloom into You gets an anime also down the line
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>>151918651
>mainstream
Thanks god, fags like you need not apply
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>>151920448
I think NTR might kill yuri for good, who the fuck is supposed to be the target audience for that
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>>151921348
It's one of those manga modeled after asian dramas, which is meant to make you mad as much as anything else.
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>>151921415
If that's the untapped market needed to make yuri more prominent in the anime spheres, then I'll bite

Unless male otaku starts shifting their interests to yuri fast
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>>151907480
Fucking Shinkai train or something IIRC
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