Flip Flappers

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Stop fucking making threads, most of the people who liked the show are gone and all you'll get are samefag shitposters and people whose questions are answered in the archives but are too lazy to look themselves, instead turning to this shell of its former self.

This is the same fucking thing that happened with Madoka after Rebellion. Don't keep chaining threads unless something significant is released like the BDs or the OST.

>>151847387
This.

>>151846992
If you love it, you have to let it go.
Please remember to use sage politely

>>151847387
>turning to this shell of its former self.
You faggots sent the director a card. You've been a disgrace for a long time.

>>151847630
And you bumped it from page 7 to say this.

Learn to sage, newfag

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>>151847630
>being this upset people don't want to give him a playground to spam his same shitposts over and over

Protip: Madoka threads love your kind, and there's one every day.

>>151847063
It should've been a 2-cour anime for children. No fanservice. Designs all the same but show less skin. Yayaka get her Flip Flap form more early on and join them. It's so annoying all the magical girl or any transforming girl like idol/fashionista anime for kids these days are copy and paste plots to sell toys, while the ones for teens+ are dark fanservice. Bet it would've sold more this way too, or perhaps if Papika was a boy.

YoI fans: anxiously awaiting sales numbers to shitpost against haters

FLFL fans: anxiously awaiting sales numbers because they're going to be incessantly shitposted against by haters

Ideal S2:
>Characters are all in late HS years
>Keeps the writer of Episodes 1-6 for the entire season
>Keeps studio Pablo(the background artists) for the entire season
>Focuses on individual PI episodes
>Overarching plot that is visible from Episode 3 onwards
>Less fanservice
>More expressive character faces
>Ends with an explicit OT3 for CCN, PPK & YYK,
>Just fucking get Ikuhara to direct the series

>>151847844
Go away /u/.

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>Cockona

>>151847844
This whole post slightly irked me in the most mild manner. Well done, 8/10.

>>151847844
Ideal S2:
>No

>>151847882
post the papikunt one

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>>151847630
This. That fag has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

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>>151847969
Rude!

>>151847867
/u/ BTFO this exact post though. Literally no one wants this, 1 season was all it needed.

Maybe a comfy/fanservicey OVA or whatever would be nice though.

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>>151847882
>Papicunt

>>151848070
>1 season was all it needed

Yeah but maybe a two cour one. I desperately wish they could have decompressed some of these episodes

>>151848281
I stand by my constant whining that cour and a half shows should be a thing, 16-18 episode series would have saved so much anime it's not even funny

>>151848451
I don't think it would have helped here.
Look at episode 3, look at episode 1. Hell, look at episode 7.

The episodes in this show are all dense. It's just the director's style that he tends towards dense episodes loaded with bigger storyboards than they could comfortable accommodate. Sometimes they work well because the episode itself has a simple story and focuses around a setup into a single big action sequence (eg. 5). More often than not, individual episodes had serious pacing issues that were simply forgivable because the episodes still managed to be good.

The problems with individual episode pacing were present all along and the only reason they stood out more in the final episodes is because the final episodes were plot-focused, and didn't always have a single climactic action sequence that made the bumbling density of the leadup worthwhile. These are fundamental issues in episode composition, and lie squarely with the director. More episodes wouldn't have solved these issues, we would have just gotten a couple more random PI adventures before the plot conclusion got wrapped up in 4 dense episodes again.

I'm just glad it flopped.

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Release a manga, a 4-Koma anything

>>151850176
Flip the flappers.

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>>151809323
Why is this a 2001 reference?

Artbook never.

Figs never

>>151851704
Fig at Wonfes probably.

>>151851739
God I hope.

>>151851704
There's at least one figure in preparation (henshin Papika)

>>151851952
I hope I can pre-order it.

Flip flappers would have been great if they'd made it that pure illusion was some kind of noosphere and they were collecting fragment's of people's cherished memories.
So like when they would collect a fragment they'd be deleting the memory of someone's dead grandma from someone.
Then the big reveal is that they've been erasing happy memories and you move the plot on from there. With salt being complicit in this because of his desire to bring back mimi, and the bad guys being complicit in this in their desire to... what was their motivation? Give the bad guys an actual motivation, like, say, power.

It'd thematically sting with the alzeihmers episode, and would probably make me cry bitch tears.

>>151852090
>and the bad guys being complicit in this in their wasn't there an interview somewhere where Oshiyama says that Asclepius' final goal was ultimately control of humanity's collective consciousness through Pure Illusion.

>>151852090
>deleting the memory of someone's dead grandma
You missed the point of the entire show.

>>151852200
You missed the entire point of my post
The entire point of the show was lame.

Once the plot kicked in, flip flappers got pretty lame.

>flop flappers

>>151852221
>You missed the entire point of my post
Lame for you, sure. Because you were unable to comprehend it and I don't care to explain it to you.

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>>151852221

>>151852295
>cocona is mine
>no cocona is mine
>MIMIIIIII
>PAPIKAAAAAA
>COCONAAA
2 deep 4 me

>>151852307
based JC fucklad
this thread's fuckin' dead

>>151852340
There's no new content to discuss about and shitposters abound, of course it wouldn't be the best thread ever.

>>151847844
S2 villain is Cocona's PI alter-ego who goes around that weird part of PI that causes changes in the real world. Cocona, Papika, and Yayaka team up to fight her, and Yuyu and Toto learn how to flip flap.

>>151852326
Don't get me wrong; PI breaking down into reality, Cocona's entire life being a lie, even the comic relief from TT-392 (whose brain was that?) was great.
But the whole parental kidnapping and power of friendship stuff dragged on far too long.
Even the two mimis was good, and was actually under explored. Real mimi vs the PI corruption of mimi would have been a better focus if you're looking for small changes.

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Just marathoned this anime. Everyone agrees Episodes 3 and 8 was best yes?

>>151852652
Episode 5 too.

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Cute Nyunyu.

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>>151852727

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>>151852652
I do. ALL the others are not far behind though.

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>>151852652
5, 11, and 12 for me. I love every bit of Yayaka's screentime and development.

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>>151852834
Every frame a miracle

>>151847387
Yeah I'm pretty much done posting unless something new comes now like information from Oshiyama next Friday.

>people still watch isekai trash
Stop this.

>>151852960
I'm pretty sure there is a year's worth of content in Jungian fairy tales.

>>151852652
8 has the best soundtrack, seriously i fucking want that insert so bad, it better be in the OST.

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I'm gonna make it real guys. We must bring Pure Illusion to reality.

>>151852834
That fucking cheek nuzzle does things to my heart

>>151853066
That's neck nuzzling, way lewder than cheek

There was a scary spider near my computer the past week. Did that anon ever record himself doing Papika Gon' Give it to Ya?

also did salt shoot his regrets or what was that was the real magic guns?

>>151851661
Not him but those doors seem to be visual cues to the monolith, especially the way they overlook their bodies.

https://twitter.com/xlrhgpoxhgghbnc/status/816904681859399680

Can anyone translate? Seems like Kojima is saying something about a lack of time to animate these cuts?

>>151852727
Toto lost here. You know what that means.

>>151853709
https://twitter.com/xlrhgpoxhgghbnc/status/816905027289694209

And this one. Seems like he's saying they tried to get that bit done in time but it wasn't finished and didn't get included? I dunno just using google translate so could be way off. Either that or he's saying the quality wasn't up to his standard regrettably.

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>>151854031

found another doujin I haven't seen before.
https://unun.booth.pm/items/403372

>>151854093
nah that's been posted before, it's just KKK fucking them, Nynyu gets anal.

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>>151852652

Nope. 1, 5 and 9 are the best.

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Volume 1 is being shipped in Japan.

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>>151852834

God that's cute.

>>151852652
>m-muh references

overrated episodes

>>151854456
If flipflappers kept its memory theme the cool PIs make perfect sense in that they consist of people's memory of fiction based on popular culture, like giant fighting robots, or mad max.

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Looks like amiami was the first one on the ball for my vol.1 preorders, can't wait for the next ones.

>>151846992
So reading this, I strongly get the impression that Ayana Yuniko was just whining. If the director who contributed more than anything to the show's concept wanted a super robot episode, so be it.

>>151854552

They just took payments, doesn't mean it's shipped yet. My Amazon preorder haven't shipped yet either though.

>>151846992
Was a mistake.

>>151854418
We need to shitpost like there's always something new to learn every thread.

>彼岸花
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoris_radiata
>Uses
>The bulbs of Lycoris radiata are very poisonous. These are mostly used in Japan, and they are used to surround their paddies and houses to keep the pest and mice away. That is why most of them grow close to rivers now.[10] In Japan the Red Spider Lily signals the arrival of fall. Many Buddhist will use it to celebrate the arrival of fall with a ceremony at the tomb of one of their ancestors. They plant them on graves because it shows a tribute to the dead. People believe that since the Red Spider Lily is mostly associated with death that one should never give a bouquet of these flowers.[12]
>Legends
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>Some legends have it that when you see someone that you may never meet again, these flowers, also called red spider lilies or corpse flowers, would bloom along the path. Perhaps because of these sorrowful legends, Japanese people often used these flowers in funerals. The popular Japanese name Higanbana (彼岸花 Higan bana?) for Lycoris radiata literally means higan (the other or that shore of Sanzu River) flower, decorate and enjoyable, flower of afterlife in gokuraku jyōdo (極楽浄土 gokuraku jyōdo?).

>>151854775
>personification of death
Nice design

>>151854620
I think that the interview gives the wrong idea a bit, the concept Oshiyama is talking about being decided is like the general scenario like two girls travel to odd worlds kind of thing. The term actually used in the interview as well where they say build the framework is the term for composition. So essentially once they had a basic barebones concept him and Yuniko did the series composition like tasks together. From the interview and yunikos tweets I kind of get the impression though that their were either creative differences between her and Oshiyama or changes to the later scripts from producers and Yuniko was either unwilling, unable or too slow in making. Thus due to getting behind schedule they had to get someone else.

>>151855060
And they got the Kanon guy on short notice?

>>151855088
Well yeah it says in the interview that he saved their asses by writing the scripts for the last half with regards to the schedule.

>>151855112
Neat. Well, glad it all worked out. I still don't like going to Twitter over creative differences.

>>151855143
People in Japan were saying on affiblogs and things that it was unprofessional to do so and even worse in some cases. It might be that the delay to the scripts is ultimately what caused the production schedule to fall apart for the last couple of episodes and the QUALITY to creep in, you can't storyboard or start animating until you have scripts.

>>151855060
>creative differences
I can tell what creative differences they had. Yuniko wanted to write a perfect yuri story between Papika and Cocona. This plotline got sidelined in the latter half when Papika and Cocona got upstaged by Yayaka because she was not no longer in control and her ideas were not conveyed. To make it worse the crew (Oshiyama, Kojima, VAs) all liked Yayaka the most and Oshiyama's vision for Papika was much more simplistic than Yuniko's. The upstaging of Yayaka is probably representative of how the Oshiyama's main plotline of Jungian Hansel and Gretel had triumphed over Yuniko's romance plotline. I don't doubt Oshiyama's yuri intention but when the screen time is limited he chose to prioritize his main message over yuri.

>>151855318
That's a whole lot of speculation built on what was already my quite tenuous speculation anon.

>>151855350
No? This is based on the interview and my analysis of the plot alone.

>>151855238
>affiblogs
It's okay to take other people's opinion as reference, but not these. They just hate everything.

>>151855421
Yeah there's no real basis in that for suspecting a creative difference. There could be all number of reasons Yuniko couldn't complete the second half and even then if there were changes to be made it's not nessecarily that it was Oshiyama who wanted them besides the robot episode. It's all just a speculation that I've made based on what I've read not the truth of what happened. Speculating in that much detail about a creative difference that is itself a speculation is ridiculous.

>>151855443
Saying it's unprofessional to tweet about how show and how you wanted it to be different whilst it's airing doesn't seem that extreme to me. The extreme comments were saying things like they never wanted her to work on kiniro mosaic again, she should quit anime, she has the mental age of a teenager, she has narcissistic personality disorder and such.

>>151855548
Shitposters, plus Japanese are not fond of anyone who rocks the boat even slightly in general.

>>151855601
Of course. I'm just saying that calling it unprofessional doesn't seem that unreasonable it's only going to create division amongst the fans.

>>151855484
You didn't get the point did you? I think most legit criticism has agreed things were not right with Papika and Cocona being upstaged by Yayaka, not given enough screen time and the disconnect between Papicoco and SaltMimi plotlines. Something has to account for the injustice of underdevelopment of Papika and Cocona in the latter half.

Now you can look back at the development of the story concept for the causes. Oshiyama's main message for the story was inspired by Jungian interpretation of Hansel and Gretel from Hayao Kawai's books (matricide metaphor, shadow, duality of maternity, individuation of the child from their mother) and all these concepts were reflected in the story. He put the most effort in this world view (which is also why he would want to give a talk about it) so it's understandable why yuri romance is not a required component of it instead it's a nice-to-have, a secondary priority. It's also mentioned Yuniko had a quite active role in putting yuri in the story and you can observe a level of mastery in subtle depiction of emotion in the early episodes that's surely beyond the grasp of a new male director. If Yuniko wanted anything it had to be a good yuri story instead of a Jungian sci-fairy tale.

These almost have nothing to do with Yuniko's tweets.

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>>151854775

Damn, that's interesting. And nobody really noticed before character designer spelled it out.

>>151855742
Once again you are speculating based on speculation. There is nowhere that major creative differences are confirmed.

>>151855742
>the injustice of underdevelopment of Papika and Cocona in the latter half

seriously, dude?

>>151855827
>based on speculation
Whose speculation? Yours? My entire post is based on first-hand materials.
>confirmed
Do you need someone to confirm creative differences for you? This is entirely literature criticism.

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>>151855749

The Wikipedia article has a nice picture of Mimi.

>>151855866
This >>151587514 was my criticism one week ago and responses were also constructive.

>>151855868
You are speculating that their are creative differences and then further speculating based on that what those were and how things would be different. You can speculate however you would like why the show is like it is but unless you've got anything to back it up then it is just that speculation based on speculation. An anime production fan fiction.

>>151855918
>You are speculating that their are creative differences
I presented facts to demonstrate how their creative approaches are different. What exactly am I speculating?
>further speculating based on that what those were and how things would be different
I did no such thing.
>unless you've got anything to back it up
Yeah it's not like I'm gonna put citations everywhere if you're unable to read the same source materials.

>>151855998
What you are really failing to understand is that nowhere is it indicated that Yuniko wanted anything majorly different in the rest of the series or any reason for her not writing the episodes beyond that they were short on time. Anything going beyond that is speculation. Yuniko didn't write the remaining episodes due to time constraints that's the only "factual" reason you can give. Anything beyond that is speculation regardless of how you come to it in the absence of any other factual insight. Your interpretation of the shows plot and what you think different writers would have done is not a factual insight. It's speculation.

>>151855998
The real failing in the logic though is you are making a jump from perceived differences in the second half to Yuniko had creative differences which caused her not to be the writer for the rest. There is nothing to establish that causal link. The reasons for your perceived differences could just as easily be casually related to the fact that someone else was writing rather than Yuniko not doing them because of a difference creatively. You are using perceived differences as evidence of creative differences but you would expect to see some differences if there was a different writer regardless of the cause of the change. It doesn't contain the right information to come to that conclusion.

>>151856062
>nowhere is it indicated that Yuniko wanted anything majorly different
So we start from square one, right?
>Yuniko didn't write the remaining episodes due to time constraints
You even got this wrong. The things that are confirmed in the interviews are 1) Yuniko didn't write the remaining episodes; 2) There were time constraints. Where did you get the causal link?
>Your interpretation of the shows plot and what you think different writers would have done
What Oshiyama did and what Yuniko did are literally stated in the interview. I don't get why it's so hard for you to read that.

On second thought I think you're seriously getting ridiculous. Why are you denying there are creative differences? People always have differences.

>>151856170
Oh, I didn't know what "creative differences" means. Sorry. I didn't mean to imply Yuniko left the project because of dissenting opinions.

Yeah I just want to demonstrate how the style of the show had changed over the course.

The 'real world' PI was cooler than the real world of the show, it had a very comfy Dennou Coil/Windy Tales urban adventure feeling. I'd take a full episode or more of it over some of the stuff in the show tbqh

>>151856176
Im denying that creative differences were the reason Yunikos writing ceased after episode 6 as being anything more than speculation. There's no factual basis for this anywhere. The second half could be different for any number of reasons you cant logically conclude from the facts that it is different that the only possible explanation is that Yuniko didn't writer episodes because her opinion on what they should contain conflicted with Oshiyama. It's pure fantasy. There are hundreds of alternative explanations. Producers could have wanted the changes, Yuniko could have been slow, Yuniko could have been busy, Yuniko could have been ill, they could have felt like giving someone else a shot who would be better at that part in their opinion seeing as they were behind schedule. There's nothing to indicate the specific fantasy explanation you have landed on is anything more than a speculation. Again differences you perceive in the story are not evidence of creative differences when you cannot say anything about what would have been otherwise without speculating to begin with.

>>151856260
Oh never mind then. I suppose everyone learns something sometimes. I'm surprised you didn't manage to make it obvious before now though. There are definitely changes in writing style after the shift of writers though I agree with that.

>>151856371
the weird thing though is episode 7 falls pretty in line with the 'yuniko stuff'

what happened there? oshiyama rewriting or slightly modifying an earlier concept? he knew what the series was like at the start but didn't care when it came to later half? he just let hisaya pull whatever the fuck later on because they were pressed for time?

>>151846992
Oshiyama is so awesome.
I hope he directs more anime.

>>151856447
Oshiyama said he wroter ep 7 by Yuniko's yuri lessons and somehow he still broke some Yuniko's rules. Which rule I don't know exactly (no boys for Cocona, what?) but I guess breaking it made the yuri depiction not as intricate as that of Yuniko.

>>151856576
I'm glad he broke her 'rule' and surrounded Cocona only with girls if just for the sole purpose of laughing at the guy who kept using the ikemen line as definitive proof that Cocona was straight.

I'm not familiar with Yuniko's style though. Does anyone think she would have given us more explicit yuri like a kiss or would have ended it more ambiguously than Oshiyama?

>>151855749
One anon noticed it, but his post was lost in tonnes of shitposting

>>151856643
https://yaranakya.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/on-yuri-2-changing-definitions/
Seems like a 'subtext is fine too' person currently

>>151856447
>he just let hisaya pull whatever the fuck later on because they were pressed for time
Oshiyama is great at visual storytelling but from this I think he doesn't have the same level of control as Yuniko in subtle character building. The damn "loved you since you were born" line was printed in big letters along with his interview so apparently he's ok with this or is this what he intended?? Either way it's problematic because he didn't get the full implication of this line on character relationship. Also since he started as an animator he would be naturally more focused on animation and less on the story when they were pressed for time.

>>151855318
>all liked Yayaka the most

They have good taste. It's hard to really like MCs in an ostensibly romantic story when one half seems annoyed at the other 90% of the time and the love confession comes at the tail-end of the show.

>>151856736
>Also since he started as an animator he would be naturally more focused on animation and less on the story when they were pressed for time.
Don't assume you know the man. He showed great care for telling the story he wanted told.

>>151856736
what's the japanese line though

i feel like people making a big deal of that just from the way the CR translation comes across might be jumping to conclusions

>>151856736

Why wouldn't he be okay with any lines from his own show? Clearly he was satisfied with the script, or it wouldn't have been animated in the first place.

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>>151856783

>>151856667
>I’ve come to think that “if there are two girls together, it probably counts as yuri”.
Yeah, that really doesn't tell me anything. The episodes she wrote were great, but I wouldn't have wanted it go on like that. It seems like their relationship was developing very quickly there and that it would have been easy to just keep it at the level they displayed in ep 5.

>>151856783
There aren't many ways to translate Papika's line there. It mentioned love since Cocona's birth.

>>151856783
It literally says born.
http://jisho.org/word/生まれる

>>151856824
it tells me that yuniko buys into the narrative of supressing explicitly gay depictions in favour of 'metaphors' and shit like that which only merits expounding on things perceived as taboo

regardless of whether she's okay with actual lesbians, the subtext yuri stuff is generally not very okay with it. pretty similar to a lot of fujoshibait stuff actually

So it's one of these shows with stupid plot, but nobody cares about it because tons of references that will make me feel smart because I get them?

>>151856876
Don't think, feel

>>151856869
No. Yuniko does great yuri without kissu. Kissu is almost like fanservice and the substance of yuri or love in general is not about kissu.

>>151856833
>Nyunyu bullying Yayaka
>rare happy Yuyu
Good image.

>>151856768
>>151856803
Satisfied sure. He said he got his ass saved by Hisaya which means he didn't have more time to polish the script (so what was he doing then? Not hard to guess.).

>>151856833
Yayaduck!

>>151856903
man why do all these people type like 5 year olds with "kissu" and shit

it's not even about whether they kiss though, it's about being actually explicitly concretely diegetically gay in ways that weigh on the characters. you know the way het romance works in these stories, because it's accepted to be explicit about het romance

>>151857028
Het romance works by taking you to the destination as soon as possible. Yuri romance works by having as much detour as possible.

You can be Papika. -Takashi Kojima
https://twitter.com/Lifeldeas/status/797691350468571136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNKRxsNyOho

>>151857139
PAPIKA IS A GENIUS

>>151857139
How many busts will I have to go through before I find my own Cocona though?

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>>151857201
I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>151857139
Not the same if I can only get 3dpd, still waiting for anime to be real

>>151856869
Yuniko was a yuri fundamentalist but she gradually accepted yuribait if it can popularize yuri in general which in turn will also elevate the status of orthodox yuri that she truly represents.

>>151857139
That is a very hairy Papika.

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>>151847844
Ideal S2:
Yayaka takes over an abandoned oil platform and forms a new organization, Mirage Sans Frontières, or MSF for short. The organization started with a simple purpose, to offer henshin services to the highest bidder, but soon grows to be much more than that, soon becoming THE place to go for all interested in Pure Illusion. A real Outer Heaven, if you will.

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Yayaka figures, dakimakuras and onaholes when?

I want to be her Cocona!

>今夜からフリフラ14話放送開始です。みなさん観てください。ウソです。

Oshiyama is reading these threads. I'm convinced now.

>>151858487
If I've learned anything from the posts that 2ch translator did it's that almost any opinion posted here will be echoed in the Japanese community.

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>>151858487
>ウソです。

>>151858487
Translate please

>>151858487
ova confirmed

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>>151858487
What if it's not an uso dess?

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>>151858487
>ウソです

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>>151858487

>>151846992
>Yayaka feels very human and also suffers from bad luck (laughs)
what a dick.

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>>151858487
>telling in the same tweet that it's a joke

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>>151858521
Odd that /a/ usually ends up influencing things in a way that unnerves /a/.

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>>151858487

I haven't seen the sketchy version of the poster before.

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>>151858487
>Usodesu

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>>151858487
>ウソです
fucking savage

>>151847387
You've always been a bunch of pretentious over-analyzing faggots, where you go from here will be no better or worse. I could type in sage quite easily if I wanted to, yes I most certainly could.
Could do that very easily if I wanted.

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How were the nip reactions to the card? I've seen only a few translated right after it was retweeted

>>151858735
>foreigners do love Uexkull!

>>151858735
Anyone got a pic of the card?

>>151858712
>tfw you were so close to getting that kouhai with a fat ass in bed but some brat snatched her away

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>>151858600

>>151858779
https://twitter.com/maskedcnt/status/814920173824057344

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Oh look they really want her.

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>>151858790

She can still have this (even though they never met and their hobbies are radically different).

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>>151858909
Urusai!

>>151858909
Would Sayuri share Yayaka with Iroha?

>>151856876
4 eps in, looks like it and i'm thinking of dropping. Especially since the latter half of the show apparently got fucked by scheduling.

>>151859087
Get to episode 10 at least.
The last two are kinda superfluous.

>>151858651
I'm not nessecarily saying those opinions originate here but that for every guy posting his "unique" take here on /a/ there is almost always a nip saying the exact same on 2ch. We are more similar than different.

Flip Flapping figures when?

I want to flip Yayaka's flaps

>>151856899
Really feel?

>>151859007
Only if she's willing to cosplay.

>>151858867
Time for scans. Please?

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I just figured why Yayaka had to be kicked out when Nyunyu appeared. They didn't have any more seats in the car.

>>151859308
Toto could just sit on Yuyu's lap.

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>>151858652

Cocona isn't wearing socks!

@Ninaryo
>Episode 14, no way, even Salt entered the bath! Popular name: "Bath Salt episode"

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>>151858487
>ウソです

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best girl confirmed for not being a retard

>>151859341
Toto is a fucking pansie.

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>>151852652
>>151852706
>>151852912
>>151853044

Why no love for episode 6?

>>151846992
has kojima's interview been translated as well?

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>>151858712
I want a spinoff about senpai in an art college!

After months of painting, enduring the pressure to become a recognized artist, drinking, smoking, having lesbian sex and winning too few art competitions, she would accidentaly discover PI while experimenting with psychodelics to get inspiration. Then she would get obssesed with PI and getting inside it with her sanity deteriorating with each attempt. She notices PapiCoco on their adventures a few times, but the last episode is her actually meeting them and getting a happy end

written by Satoshi Kon using a ouija board

>>151859672
I noticed that anons who loved episode 6 after airing the most were those who had someone affected by Alzheimer's or dementia themselves. Some even teared up at the end. I've never known anyone with that condition, so obaa-chan's deterioration didn't have much of an impact on me apart from sympathizing with Iro.

>>151854155
>just the KKK fucking them
>JUST the KKK fucking them
>NYUNYU GETS ANAL

MUH DICK

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>>151859594
But we already knew Yayaka wasn't a retard

>>151859751
Yeah, I my grandpa and my great grandmother had it. I think it would have been my favorite still even if that wasn't the case, but I can't be sure

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>>151859800
What are you implying, anon?

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My FliFla folder needs more Yayakas! Give me them or the puppy gets hurt

>>151859807
You had it? Did you get better?
>I can't be sure
I guess not.

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>>151859823
Papika is retarded.

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>>151859845
One best girl coming up!

I strongly recommend rewatching episode 18 of Space Dandy if you want a little more goodness. Directed, written, storyboarded, and supervised by Oshiyama.

>>151859857
>Did you get better?
Of course I did

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>>151859845

>>151859909
>oh my god, I must look like such a fucking nerd right now

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>>151859869
That's canonically not true

Papika is actually a very smart individual

>shallow characters that don't develop or act rationally
>yuribait
>nonsensical mess of a plot
>bad animation
>bad voicework
>bad direction
>blatant plagiarism
>sells less than aids

Worst show of the season.

>>151859909
>Inazuma Eleven
but green football Yaya it's clearly a Precure reference

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>>151859869
FUCJ YOU! YOU COULDN'T EVEN READ THIS BOOK IF YOU TRIED YOU DUMB CAT

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>>151859971
Worst bait of the season.

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>>151859845

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>>151860021
HAYAI

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>>151859986
>read

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>>151859845

>>151860007
It ain't bait if it's true, pretentious, card sending faggot.

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>>151859971

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>>151860048

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>>151860066
Keep those buzzwords coming.

>>151860094
The more buzzwords he uses the more valid his claims become. This is basic science

>>151860066
>pretentious

Don't you a blog you should be running right now fag?

>>151859904
Doing gods work anon.

Any tips on how to explore akihabara to get flipflap merchandise?About to go there within this month.

>>151860179
You go into Tower Records and buy the Volume 1 BD, there isn't anything else.

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>>151846992
>people are thinking Flip Flappers is based on Jungian psychoanalysis
>when it's actually more about gestalt psychology

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>>151860066
>Being this mad your favorite anime didn't win then poll

>>151860210
Guess that will have to do.
Is that the one with the best free poster?

Going to need a chart on which store has which free unique poster. But if tower records have a poster like yours I'll go there.

>>151860217
It's based on both

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>>151859971
>sells less than aids
FlipFlappers performance is generally inferior to AIDS'

AIDS
>global pandemic
>killed around 39 million people
>spreads by unprotected sex (including anal and oral sex), contaminated blood transfusions, hypodermic needles, and from mother to child during pregnancy, delivery, or breastfeeding

FliFla
>niche cartoon
>made a few animators really tired
>spreads through torrents and overpriced BDs

>>151860238
http://flipflappers.com/bluray/
Looks like Animate has some phone stand thing, Toranoana and Gamers have posters.

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>>151860329
Neato.

But what is this. Please monitize your show better 3Hz.

>>151847387
This thread looks all right but there were some really, really awful ones that I have to agree with you.

>>151852834
Oh god

>>151860377
>vlc

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My body is ready

subs when?

>>151860412
It's for an extra video player to watch hentai in. So I can have mpc-hc and vlc to play 2 different fap fuel.

But enough of that back on-topic:

What are the chances of 3Hz taking this market signal of fli flapper's increasing sales translating into more character goods?

I want daki's, towels, mousepads and such from flip flappers.

>>151855749
To be honest, I thought the spider lily flanges on her design were just too obvious to bear a mention.

Those things show up so damn often in anime. Even Homura's witch design used them.

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>>151858814
>my first flappers OC
>no (You)s

How bad will the threads be when the sales figure arrives?

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>>151860377
Infinite had this wallscroll at their Comiket stand, but good luck finding that on the aftermarket.

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>>151860480
You're a bit late to the party

>>151860509
I'm not very skilled.
The best I can do it merging two other OCs.

>>151860480
Need to be more memetic mate. Bad attempt. Try again.

Too crass with the use of the word "vagina" also piggy backing from an already successful meme and making it worse.

1/10 you'll most likely succeed eventually if you try!

>>151860504
I still can't get over how horny Cocona looks in this one

>>151860460
>It's for an extra video player to watch hentai in. So I can have mpc-hc and vlc to play 2 different fap fuel.
You don't need a separate player for that.

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>>151860537
But we talk about unbirthing all the time.

>>151860504
Ah ah ah. I need this particular one. This one. It has to be this one.
Is there no hope of finding one anymore?

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>>151858487
>ウソです。

>>151859672
I think 6 is probably the single best episode from a technical standpoint and the emotional impact was definitely all there.

I just hate rewatching it because it makes me sad

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>>151860509
What the fuck is that thing

>>151860615
A rabbit, duh

>>151860615
A rabbit.

>>151860615
Oshiyama's self insert.

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>>151860624
>>151860630
I have a question.

Did the "realistic" rabbit in PI look completely freakish and alien to Cocona?

Why would a "realistic" PI exist? Shouldn't the whimsical fantasy of Cocona's world be considered realistic?
It makes sense from a narrative standpoint, but not a common sense one.

>>151860615
I believe that's a childhood photograph of the Mysterious Green Gentleman that becomes Yayaka's husband later in the series.

>>151860563
slim to nil. Better odds at just waiting for the chinese bootleg market to make one.

>>151860679
That's called dramatic irony, anon. The world appeared strange to the viewer because it was normal, but the characters showed no awareness that the normal was different from their normal, creating a feeling of tension in the viewer as they feel like they're aware of something the characters aren't.

>>151860699

Infinite does mail order sometimes. They probably still have unsold ones left.

>>151860734
Yes but when Cocona was in the "realistic" PI, it was supposed to be a world where all the magic was gone. But from Cocona's perspective, that would be a fantastical world just like the other PIs.

>>151860258
what book is that from? I need this to draw the flipflaps

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>mfw horriblesubs is late again
Well, let's wait for [Cocona].

>>151861218
This isn't healthy, anon.

>>151861218
no PV yesterday either.

>>151861169
https://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01MDKXY22/vasquare-22

>>151860679
Ever read Life of Pi? It's the whole idea of presenting an alternate version of events suddenly and briefly and then explicitly dismissing it, but leaving just enough doubt in the reader/viewer's head to create ambiguity. It's the mother of all open endings. Some will believe Cocona really was living in a Pure Illusion all along and that she decided to go back because her character arc was complete and she had learned to embrace escapism as something positive. Others will see it as a kind of final defense trap that she had to overcome.

Notice she only beats it by returning to the original place where she and Papika entered Pure Illusion and carrying out the same scene a second time. The idea that the "entrance" has become an "exit" is significant I think.

>>151860377
>3hz
They aren't even on the production committee they stand to gain very little from this show being financially successful perhaps beyond a reputation as a studio that makes success.

>>151860783
Would it? She spent her entire life (up to the start of the series) in a "normal world", and after all the weird shit with mimi, she may have thought everything went back to normal or something

>>151861397
This isn't a case of "what actually happened" so much as "what does it actually say". It's pretty clear that the message of this ending is that no matter how dull and grey your life may seem, a significant other and a bit of courage can make it as fantastical as you want.

>>151861453
So you think Pure Illusion was just an allegory for a relationship this whole time?

>>151861465
Why do you think it always took 2 to enter?

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>>151861465

>>151861555
It didn't, all it took was Mimi to enter or Mimi + anyone else

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FliFla is making me read stuff since the first episode and my brain hurts from all this Jung shit.

I think we should compile a FliFla reading list.

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why do bu-chan and uexkull turn into real things when they enter deeper pure illusion

>>151861425
But her rabbit was always a green blob. Realistic rabbits would look freakish to her.

>>151861612
Mimi never actually enters PI solo.
She always has Papika or Cocona with her when she does it.
Why do you think the original researchers needed to pair Mimi with someone?

>>151860509
>Без имени-2.png
Здрасьте

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>>151846992

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>>151861631

>>151861631
Yeah, it's quite a good way to fill my emptiness after it's over even though most are irrelevant. There're a lot books, arts and shows recommended in the archived early threads.

>>151861799
Man that sure is some fertile soil that will promote rich and healthy discourse.

>>151861799
I don't know why you expected Citizen Kane.

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>>151861813
>Flip Flap Flop Trip
Wow, even the nips acknowledge it.

>>151861813
>flop trip
what the fuck, did they really know it's gonna fail or the 'flop' here means something else?

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>>151861813
>Hidaka Toshitaka
>Hidaka

>>151862019
Exactly, like Uexkull.

>>151861659
Because the actual world they "live" in is a pure illusion made by Cocona's mother The real world is the one shown right before the end of last episode

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>>151861631

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>>151861631

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>>151861799

>>151862423
And just like our real world, there are huge butterflies above the clouds.

>>151862468
Yeah? People rarely look up the sky nowadays in general

>>151862468
>he doesn't know about the giant butterfly conspiracy

>>151861994
>Nips writing something in english
It probably means nothing.

>>151862703
https://twitter.com/ut_cat/status/799616323089108992

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>>151862468
Yeah, and our real rabbits are all flabby and green.

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>>151862840
Spoofy

>>151863220
>TAKE THIS! MY LOVE, MY ANGER AND ALL OF MY SORROW! UMWELT BOOOOOOOMB!

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Congrats, you faggots duped me into watching this shit show. There's absolutely nothing good about it, just "haha random" FLCL-esque ripoff garbage. Zero themes, zero actual fun, le evil adults. Papika is an annoying cunt, MC is blander than old vanilla. What an absolute joke. This only confirmed for me that when it comes to anime, /a/ is always wrong.

>>151861934
FlipFlappers is a creative reimagining of Citizen Kane. Cocona is William Randolph Hearst, Papika is Rosebud, and Yayaka is a room full of boxes. I mean, that should have been obvious from the early promotional materials.

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Ignore shitposters.

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>>151858487
>Even the director is funposting about episode 14 being broadcasted today
Based Oshiyama.

>>151863421
>Congrats, you faggots duped me into watching this shit show.
How much of an idiot would you need to be to fall for it in the first place?

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>>151863447
Is that the Legendary Sword?

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>>151863643
It's just a stick, from here

I swear if the sexual Oshiyama/Yuasa show is het I'm going to rage.

>>151863788
would it be worse if it's het or if it's yaoi?

>>151863788
Why? You could watch more Yuniko shows you know?

>>151863788
Apparently it's going to be live action so I'm not really interested

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>>151860750
People probably rushed to get one. I'd be surprised if there's any left.

>>151863896
Surely the other person who watched flip flappers didn't buy one too

>mfw I made a card and watched the stream and everything but I still haven't watched ep 13

Hasn't ended for me.

>>151863890
>wouldn't watch the Flip Flap JAV

>>151863984
You're not missing anything important
"PAPIKAAAA" is legitimately a spoiler.

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>>151863643
Papikana takes 5 damage.

>>151863788
I want /u/ to die in a fire

>>151863643
is this a reference to something? another anon said the same thing

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>>151846992
Sage?
Does it count if I add a question mark.... I already fucked up, god dammit

>>151863788

What if it's homo?

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>>151864045
I want hetshitters to chill the fuck out since every time someone wishes for anything yuri they flip their flaps immediately like the wish was a real threat to rob the world of all het romance forever.

>>151864257
"I hope the new show has yuri" is fine, I hope so too
"I'm going to throw a fit on /a/ if there's het" is obnoxious as fuck

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>>151864084
I thought I was making a Nichibros reference, but it turns out I was thinking of Non Non Biyori.

>>151864413
oh damn I forgot the blurays were out

>>151863890
Citation needed

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>>151864031
Jack has joined your party.

>>151864413
Well they do play with a stick in nichibros

>>151864317
I just want an adult sexual lesbian anime treated seriously for once in my life. Is that so much a problem? Kemonozume was a good sexual straight romance. Flip Flappers was a show about children so it couldn't do a lot.

>>151864812
Again, I'm for yuri. I take issue with
>if the show is het I'm going to rage.

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flip flappers dakimakura when

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>>151864121
why do you always fuck everything up, anon?

>>151865024
Is twin-tail bluehead loli 3hz girl?

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>>151865024

They really lewded the poor saucer with these dakimakuras. Surely they wouldn't do the same thing to a pure maiden like Cocona?

>>151865380
>one side is Cocona
>other side is Mimi

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>>151864121
Cocona was cuter with glasses

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>>151865380
They already drew Cocona in many unnecessary scenes for the show itself.

>>151865380
Yayaka will buy them all up

>>151865604
Those were all completely necessary.

>>151846992
This show is easily AOTY one of the more intellectual shows of 2016

>>151865831
>this is what Flip Flap fags actually believe