Why are /a/'s memes so shit nowadays? Old memes and flashes

>>151816972
We're all old and jaded now. /a/ hasn't been the driving force behind memes since 2007 at best. The closest we've had since is /jp/ memes

In a few years people will be saying the same thing about the current memes. At the end of the day, they're all shit.

>>151816972
>Why are /a/'s memes so shit nowadays?
Because they're forced.
I like an occasional classic pasta now and then though, they always make me smile

>flashes
whats that is it like a vine

>>151816998
Chaika is literally shit

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>>151816972
Because /a/ is not niche anymore. Pretty much everyone knows about 4chan now and posts here. So now the place is flooded with more retards.

>>151816972
old /a/ is dead, filled to the brim with mouth breathing troglodytes.

/a/ isn't as autistic as it used to be, autism is the driving force behind everything on 4chan really

most of the legitimate basketcases have either been crushed under the jackboot of the normalfag world or killed themselves by now

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>then
>person says something long and retarded
>becomes pasta

>someone does an edit
>everyone joins in

>now
>person says something long and retarded
>angry screeching noises from the peanut gallery

>someone does an edit
>cries of forced meme resound

It's not the memes have changed, it's us that has changed.

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>>151817141
It can't be helped.

Go to /pol/ for dank memes.

>>151817141
Part of the reason why so many are holed up in generals now, only inside jokes and series specific memes have value now.

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>>151817180
>going to /pol/
>ever

>>151817275

It feels good to embrace to truth, friend. Don't be afraid.

>>151817320
Fuck off, retards who endrose or admitted to crossboarding should be v&

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Oldie but a goodie

Has 2016 had any good memes from /a/?

>>151817751
no, /a/ is dead as a meme machine

>>151817374
Hating crossboarders started on /jp/, you're using a crossboard meme

>>151816972
/a/'s memes were always shit as /a/ skews the youngest out of all boards (94% of all people are 18 and under.)

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>>151817141
More like:
>then
>person says something long and retarded
>becomes pasta
>gets banned after the thread 404s for a week

>someone does an edit
>gets banned for 3 days
>pasta is now dead because nobody wants to get banned for 'shitposting' a pasta at somebody.

>>151816972
/a/ takes itself too seriously

>>151817933
That 'then' should say 'now'

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The last panel applies more to /pol/ than /a/ but the point remains.

Who here remembers this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssgm5rUpgUs

>>151816972
no community because people would rather hole themselves up in their respective generals

>>151816998
THA CRASHA

People used to make cool shit back in the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkqWDrjItrA

I blame mobile devices. People just can't into photoshop anymore.

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>>151818022
What anime was this. I for the life of my can't remember and the low quality video makes it hard to search for.

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>>151816972
>old memes
>good
Oldfags are the baby boomers of the internet, They literally made the internet shit and pushing the blame to younger generations

>y u no meme :(
/a/ grew up.

>>151816972
Because most of /a/'s current user base lurks /b/ or the new /s4s/, or continued to do so well into the 2010s.

>>151818717
Nice false comparison.
We dont feel like anyone else owes anything to society, we just want normies out, like we always have. This has always been the case since the dawn of the internet. The only thing thay has changed is how we express this.

>>151818717
that actually makes some sense

>>151818779
>Because most of old /a/'s current user base lurked /b/
Fixed.
/b/ and other such boards are far too stigmatized nowadays, as with visiting any other board. Leads to the kind of far-too-insular circlejerky stagnation I reckon /a/ suffers heavily from today.
There's no enough creativity because everyone is too afraid of standing out in any way, despite the forced anonymity.

>>151818884
So basically. What tou are saying is that moots plan to create containment boards actually resulted in worse conditions overall?

>>151818859
>We dont feel like anyone else owes anything to society
>but normies on the other hand owes it to us to keep out of our board
truly the boomers of the internet giving rise to SJW menace

>>151818951
protip:every board is a containment board

>>151818884
It's because as soon as you stand out and do something interesting you get five normie-autists sperging out on you.

>>151818859
>Muh new generation is shit and we are the best generation

>>151818987
Lurk moar newfag

How is telling someone to 'fuck off' for not understanding the culture until they are ready to assimilate the same as what you are saying. Thats literally all oldfags want.

>>151818951
arguably, yes.
not as a direct result, it's more like the whole concept of containment boards is the problem. it should all be 4chan, but nowadays everyone treats each board like different (shitter) sites entirely.
>>151818975
that's not how it was early into 4chan's lifespan.

>>151818975
You dont say!

>>151819022
What would 4chan be like if /a/ never existed and /b/ was still anime - random?

>>151819015
Where did I say anything about not understand the culture? I said "doing something interesting", which is what this thread says /a/ is lacking now. If you do anything interesting you get spergs who take themselves too seriously saying you're not funny (regardless of how funny it is), forced meme, etc. This was not the case before.

>>151819015
>How is telling someone to 'fuck off' for not understanding the culture until they are ready to assimilate the same as what you are saying.
Not him, but isn't the problem that the "culture" is way too specific? If you stand out in any way at all you're inviting shitposting.
Obviously normalfags should fuck off, but not everyone that gets called a normalfag is actually a normalfag. /a/ is too quick to smother any attempt at fun, whether it's the good kind of fun or the bad kind of fun.

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>>151817001

>>151817285
I miss moot.

>>151818019
First one is /qa/, /fa/ and other reddit-tier bs
Second one: practically everything else (/g/ is kind of a mixture between the second and third one)
Third one: /pol/, /int/, /b/

At least that's how I see it, but I only visit /g/, /a/ and /b/ regularly

>>151818884
>hygiene screening against cancerous newfags is somehow bad
fucking newfags

>>151819104
>>151819089
Lurk 4 years before posting. you don't know what you're talking about

>>151817441
I can't smell my own funk, besides a faint odor of chip grease, so either I don't have one or I'm too used to it. I am skinny which might be the reason, I don't sweat unless I fap.

>>151819138
are you retarded? it's 2006, 2011 and 2014.

>>151819132
who?

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>>151819132

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>>151819138
>At least that's how I see it, but I only visit /g/, /a/ and /b/ regularly
Orly?

>>151819190
I know you fucking idiot.
I was comparing these to the boards here, shit for brains.
The first one being reddit-tier normie garbage
The second one being alright
The third one being autistic garbage except for some good porn (except for /int/, because there's almost none there)

>>151819146
>>151819169
>>151819015
>I don't agree with him, so he's a newfag
See what I mean? Instead of considering a differing opinion it's preferable to just assume they're new and have no idea what they're talking about. Can you even put into words what specifically makes any of those posters any of you replied to newfags?

>>151819138
>>151819190
hush he's new

>>151819138
How is /b/ nowdays? I havent been there since 2009

I hate what 4chan will become in another 5 years, I don't know if it's just me but it seems /a/ is slowly dieing, and it's supposed to be one of the most active boards.

/vg/ is probably the only board that has become bigger than the original popular boards like /a/, /b/, /v/

>>151819301
Rock bottom.

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>>151819254
it's hardly a comparison. just because 9gag today is basically the same as gaia 10 years ago doesn't mean their users are a cancer time capsule using the same old memes. the picture really has no application at all in the way you used it. the syntax described is as tied to the era as the development of net 2.0 4chan, inline quotes, catalog etc

>>151819301
It's just a porn board now with the usual roll threads and gore threads. A few really good threads do exist at times, but if you blink you'll miss it.

>>151819314
>/vg/ is probably the only board that has become bigger than the original popular boards like /a/, /b/, /v/
/pol/?

>>151819314
people say /pol/ is #1

/pol/ was alright when they were just our local depressed neo-nazis, but ever since trump they became increasingly insufferable.

>>151819261
>Can you even put into words what specifically makes any of those posters any of you replied to newfags?
Yes, but there's no reason to, community shaming is normally enough. It was in the past, when saging wasn't b&. That you don't understand that is one sign, as the first post quoted pointed out. It's also because of the idea that there's somehow a suffocating in-culture when /a/ has largely lost its identity, that his analysis is so off-mark (that anyone is at all afraid to "stand out" is a completely absurd misinterpretation of the nature of imageboards), and not least that the entire character of the post is a cliche newfag attitude - the self-confident outsider observer making an analysis of what he feels the board is doing wrong from his enlightened perspective despite only browsing a few months. I say browsing, because I very much doubt the self satisfied cunt ever bothered to lurk.

It doesn't matter at this point, this site is a hollow zombie and your ilk makes it clear every day.

/ma/ - Manga when?

>>151819132
who? :(

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4WzQ7KHak

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>>151819423

>>151819301
Porn threads, /pol/ and /qa/ leaking, nigger troll threads, rekt threads and YLYL are just too old an don't have fresh new material

>>151817751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zBaKgJr7Ss

>>151819502
>/qa/ leaking
How can a tiny board like /qa/ leak on /b/?

>>151819423
Do you understand that I did not mean stand out like a newfag? I meant stand out as in post interesting content.

Even though it gets worse with each passing year, /a/ is still the best board on this site.

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>>151819462
Blame adderall

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>>151819546
Good for you

>>151819549
/out/

>>151818859
>B-but i was here first dee ecks
time for some modernization faggot

>>151819423
>Yes, but there's no reason to, community shaming is normally enough. It was in the past, when saging wasn't b&.
My point was that it suffocates originality if anything you do is just going to be written off as a newfag being written off as flaunting his newfaggotry. The whole reason insularity is bad is because stifling new (or at least different) ideas directly causes stagnation, which was what I theorized to be the reason newer /a/ memes suck compared to older ones.

>That you don't understand that is one sign, as the first post quoted pointed out. It's also because of the idea that there's somehow a suffocating in-culture when /a/ has largely lost its identity, that his analysis is so off-mark (that anyone is at all afraid to "stand out" is a completely absurd misinterpretation of the nature of imageboards),
I didn't mean "stand out" in an individuality sense, more in the "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down" sense. If you don't 100% conform to the general /a/ approved mindset in your post then you're obviously nothing more than a cancerous newfag crossborder. New content sucks because nobody wants to try when they'll just get called redditors and their OC will just be ignored because it's "too cancerous" or whatever.

>and not least that the entire character of the post is a cliche newfag attitude - the self-confident outsider observer making an analysis of what he feels the board is doing wrong from his enlightened perspective despite only browsing a few months. I say browsing, because I very much doubt the self satisfied cunt ever bothered to lurk.
I know this doesn't matter, but for the record I'm the guy you're talking about and I started lurking regularly around later 2013. I'm not claiming that makes me an oldfag or anything, but it's more than enough time that I can say I have a solid grasp of how things work here, regardless of how you think I sound.

>>151819543
Lefties just leak everywhere, no matter how small they are.
They have infected /pol/ too

>>151819314
>I don't know if it's just me but it seems /a/ is slowly dieing, and it's supposed to be one of the most active boards
i was thinking the same thing. There is no way this board has even comparable amount of traffic it used to have

>>151819663
You don't have to be a lefty to want /pol/ deleted.

>>151819452
>mootixico

/a/ has stagnated for a long time now. I offer no solutions it's just an observation.

>>151819654
Excuse me but you are not the guy he is talking about, that would be me
>>151819546
>>151819089
>>151818987
and I started browsing /a/ in 2007.

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>>151819423

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>>151819724
don't do this

>>151817001
Nowadays, more often than not, insted of making a new meme, a piece of /a/ becomes a new meme.

>>151816972
Perfect memes don't exis-

>>151819676
>wanting to have /pol/ deleted
>one of the most active boards besides /b/
Nice way to impede free speech and also a good way to lose money from ads and losing the little momentum to grow that 4chan still has

The last great meme created by an anon I recall is this masterpiece of >told :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLImJOIl2D8

>>151819543
Why wouldn't a tiny, slow board leak on a big, faster one?

>>151819681
This is true, but at this point I doubt there is any solution. The board will simply keep losing in quality and speed

>>151819676
>t. leftist

>>151819769
He's talking about the first post, not yours. Notice he says "his analysis" and not "your analysis".

Normie is fine now?

Oh, how the board has fallen.

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>>151819725
Shut up bitch!

>>151819838
Oh. My bad.
I need to stop drunkposting and start proofreading my damn posts.

>>151819802
/pol/ is a cancerous growth, where playing the idiot has fed upon itself in a terrible cycle that makes everyone effectively an idiot. It doesn't matter if they're all "just pretending" when there's no difference between that and having literal retards on that board.

It's a leaky echo chamber, so removing it will likely lead to less shitposting across 4chan.

It needs to be removed.

>>151819844
I want to make a new /a/ and moderate it myself, this is just so sad.

>>151819844
No it's not.

>>151819844
>2017 is the year /a/ dies
Well /a/nons it's been fun.

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>>151819844
Can confirm. I am a normie and I always feel welcomed here

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>>151819654
>for the record I'm the guy you're talking about
I'm aware and it doesn't matter. You have to either mix pronouns or preface every single address with a non-commital when being meta with newfags or else they play he said-she said as they don't understand the concept of addressing the general in anonymous discourse.

>I started lurking regularly around later 2013. I'm not claiming that makes me an oldfag or anything
It makes you new as fuck. I'd ask you how new do you have to be to think that 2013 isn't newfag beyond redemption, but I obviously don't have to ask.

>but it's more than enough time that I can say I have a solid grasp of how things work here
It clearly isn't.

>New content sucks because nobody wants to try when they'll just get called redditors and their OC will just be ignored because it's "too cancerous" or whatever
This isn't at all what's happening, as I said: what the fuck is wrong with you? You've got no idea how this works. You're just too new to be sensitive to what's being identified as cancerous so it looks like blind firing. New content is generated all the time, and memes have never needed to be screened, they follow a natural selection (good OC doesn't need to be told it's good, the proof is when it takes root by others saving and reposting); the exception is forced memes, for breaking that order. Only cancer gets actively culled.

Look, only newfags hesitate to post thinking they'll get sage shamed. The real fundamental barrier is the nature of thread exposure. Threads on more obscure shows sink like rocks. It results in /a/ being highly seasonal with only the biggest or cult shows getting off season threads. To answer OP, its this nature with respect to the change in the anime industry towards shorter show runs that cause memes to last only 1 season each. There are other factors - catalog resulting in consolidation into generals, and also obviously the overwhelming newfaggotry that has consumed 4chan in the last 5 years etc.

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>>151819423
>>151819654
>>151819935

>Another autistic fight

Great.

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>>151819802
>growing is good

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>>151819971
Why do you put line breaks between your greentext? Having trouble fitting in?

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It just dawned on me that its 2017 like holy fuck.

>>151819815
>contains content from PONYCANYON
>not available in US
When did this happen.

>>151820036
They do create a lot of OC, which is to be respected. But "I was only pretending: the board" is irredeemable.

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>>151820020
Tell me about it.

>>151819972
>not growing is good

>>151820036
/pol/ is home to some of the biggest retards on the site who take the internet very fucking seriously while thinking that this is what 4chan used to be like. The fact they're attracting more retards like them is what's hurting the site

>>151820036
>/pol/ makes a ton of good new memes
please leave this place and never return

>>151820036
Cancer creates more cancer and the thing that likes this is cancer. Fuck off back to /pol/.

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>>151820046
I can't decide if I miss the visible sage feature.

>>151820036
> good new memes
Like "cuck", amirite? Wonderful meme, now there is no discussion which don't have cuck-terminology in it.
/pol/ is fucking cancer.

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>>151820036
>putting pepe face on image is good meme now
I guess we owe apology to /r9k/?

murder all chinks

PURGE PURGE PURGE BLOOD AND GLORY

>>151819935
>anyone who disagrees is a newfag
Forget the "anyone who started broswing after 20XX is automatically a newfag" meme for a second, 3 years is longer than you seem to realize, especially for something that's as addictive as 4chan is.

I'm not going to try to refute the rest of your post, because in broad terms you're right about a lot of it.

But none of that changes the fact that the insular nature of /a/'s culture stifles creativity, especially when compared to a decade or more ago.

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>2017
>no manga board

>>151820144
He's right.

I HATE FRANCE.

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WHY IS MY PENIS SO BIG!? I ALWAYS BANG IT ON THE BOTTOM OF MY DESK WHEN I GET A BONER AND I HAVE TO HOLD IT UP WHEN I TAKE A SHIT OR IT WILL GET IN THE WATER!

>>151820144
>>151820157
Where is good place for manga?

I WISH I HAD TWO PENISES!!!

>>151820191
internet

>>151820191
Animated on a screen

>>151820106
Kek is possibly the most elaborate meme in the history of 4chan. It's ok if you don't know it because it's mostly only on /pol/.

>>151820091
I think cuck is pretty funny actually. The new usage of this word can accurately express certain things that we couldn't express in one word before. It's popular because with this one word you can easily convey common ideas that would otherwise take a few lines of text (and you'd have to repeat those lines every time to make your point, much better to have 1 word for it).

Tha fuck is goin on here

I want /pol/ to leave.

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/sp/ here
what the fuck /a/

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>>151820234
>Kek is possibly the most elaborate meme in the history of 4chan
>I think cuck is pretty funny actually

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>>151818288
I found it myself, by the way. No thanks to any of you lazy faggots.

>>151820294
You're welcome

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One of the landmarks that /a/ was starting to decline was when /jp/ started creating better OC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_eyUVVcgc8

Fuck, /a/ stopped making good OC after a certain point; I can't pinpoint when. Pic related is one of the best OCs /a/ has ever produced.

This thread is terrible. Well done faggots.

>>151820331
name anything noteworthy /jp/ has ever produced

>>151819972
It's more the fapgate than the gamergate that blew up the numbers in september 2014 but goddamn, the amount of mobile sessions is disgusting.

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>>151820234
>Kek is possibly the most elaborate meme in the history of 4chan

>>151820234
>sperging out about dubs is now an elaborate meme

>>151820361
This, if mobile users couldnt access the site we would have had the same amount of users as we did in 2011. And without Gamergate moot might have satayed with us a little longer

>>151820143
Cancer isn't a number. you're a newfag based on the way you talk, your opinions, what you know and more than anything, how you approach 4chan/anonymous discourse. no one knows what year you actually started browsing.

>But none of that changes the fact that the insular nature of /a/'s culture stifles creativity, especially when compared to a decade or more ago.
The only insular nature /a/ has is the more cancerous shows getting consolidated into generals and the aforementioned thing about only threads on not airing shows that don't sink are big/cult shows.

>>151817320
>dumb fucks who get bamboozled by Alex jones and co are this condescending
Just because the mainstream media is full of shit doesn't mean the people you listen to aren't as well. Also, you retards talk about /pol/ the way evangelicals talk about Jesus and sound just as stupid and deluded.

Keit ai was the last real /a/ meme.

>>151820352
Refer to that Youtube link. /a/ was mad when it came out, tried making it's own and spectacularly failed in the attempt. This was doubly insulting to /a/, since as you may already know, /jp/ was composed of /a/ rejects, mostly to contain Touhou threads spilling to everything.

In any case, both /a/ and /jp/, the latter even more so, are no longer significant within 4chan.

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>>151820447
And it wasn't really good, either.

>>151820463
This is embarrassing.

>>151819844
Nah it is not

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>>151818717
Back in my day memes meant something, now its all cucking and facebook posts.

>>151819132
2007 moot wasn't as bad as 2013 moot, nostalgia is terrible drug.

>>151819844
>normie
>not normalfag
how far we've fallen

>>151820463
>>151820234
Stop posting

I fucking hate generals like SnK and monster musume.
Threads like OPT are what make this board interesting. The day OPT die is the day I leave this shit hole.

>>151820433
>The only insular nature /a/ has is the more cancerous shows getting consolidated into generals and the aforementioned thing about only threads on not airing shows that don't sink are big/cult shows.
Isolating itself from the other popular boards is a big part of /a/. You're cancer if you're recognizably "from" /v/ or /b/ or /pol/ or /r9k/. The more reasonable anons will clarify that it's not browsing those boards that's the issue, it's bringing those board's posting tendencies to /a/; but the majority of anons are not sensible about it.

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>>151820463
holy autism

If you don't remember Touhou hijacks then you're subhuman cancer.

>>151819138
really retarded. doesnt even fit any of the boards. surely you jest

>>151820447
And it was terrible, which was the last somewhat successful /a/ meme? Card crusher?

>>151820463
"kek" originated from fucking WoW, as an alternative to lol. That whole post is fucking embarrassing.

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>>151820535
This is nothing but a good thing and probably one of the major reasons why /a/ has still managed to stave off most of the cancer that has completely rotted almost every other board. Which, FYI, has been true re: redditors since 2011 or 12 or so, which might be why you have so much trouble identifying what people are so threatened by.

Ever heard of Chesterton's fence, newfag?
>In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.

>>151820463
>The Pepe/Kek phenomenon is far more than just an amusing meme; it's a manifestation of Azatoth, the blind, idiot god of laughter, and its danger should not be underestimated.
retarded /x/ tier roleplaying is not an elaborate meme

>>151820606
>/a/ has still managed to stave off most of the cancer that has completely rotted almost every other board
It hasn't. Anybody who thinks /a/ is some city on the hill is blind.

>>151820535
>The more reasonable anons will clarify that it's not browsing those boards that's the issue, it's bringing those board's posting tendencies to /a
There are retards here that act like you're NTR'ing the motherfucking board if you ever mention that you browse any other board.
>The only insular nature /a/ has is the more cancerous shows getting consolidated into generals and the aforementioned thing about only threads on not airing shows that don't sink are big/cult shows.
/a/'s obsession with containment threads and containment boards made it a containment board of containment threads (generals).

>>151820651
/a/ may not be perfect but browse any other big board and you'll see it's a world of difference

>>151820533
You know what? moot may have been a cuck, but I'm starting to think he was right: general threads and archives were to the detriment of 4chan.

>>151820515
>>151820482
I don't even want to be posting about this right now. I wouldn't be posting about it if you retards didn't greentext
>Kek is the possibly the most elaborate meme
as if that was incorrect. That makes me have to provide an explanation. Two final comments
1. Kek was extremely popular on /pol/ before and during Trumps election. This isn't some obscure meme.
2. The meme has dozens of different elements that are attached to it, linked to its origination and to its usage. Posters on /pol/ who use the meme are aware of these details. Again, this isn't some obscure thing a random person came up with, it's widely known on /pol/. This makes it the most elaborate meme on 4chan easily, proving my point.

This is my last post about this because I didn't even want to have this discussion, and I will not respond to braindead greentext replies.

>>151820584
It's ok if you don't know anything about the current Kek meme, just don't post as if you do.

>>151820533
OPT is already on its way to becoming a general considering the increased frequency.

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>>151820584
It originated on SC1 with korean users, they laugh with ㅋㅋㅋㅋ which sounds like kekekek. Iiirc it only really took hold on 4chan when we were moving to increasingly obscure forms of LOL to avoid net fags, eg LOL to lol to lel to kek; just like trollface to ironic troll face to ruseman to bait

that video's retarded. its influence was due to heavy synchronicities, which first came to light with /tv/'s baneposting causing a plane crash. if /a/ hadn't become an irrelevant shithole, the connection to serial experiments lain's collective net consciousness and the narratives of both seasons of GITS:SAC would've been immediately made.

>>151820684
Still embarrassing.

Why does /pol/ think we give a shit about their culture? I'm sure you hate it when muslims try to teach you the glory of islam so why don't you get a clue and stop pushing your garbage onto /a/?

>>151820724
Because they're a bunch of retarded hypocritical children.

>>151820684
stay in containment retard, your delusions that anyone here cares about the latest love story between /pol/ and alt-right reddit is cringeworthy

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>>151820606
>Ever heard of Chesterton's fence, newfag?
>In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.

Dear Diary: today I learned something on /a/.

/pol/ only exists to be baited. They fall for anything there and its instantly turns into 300+ posts threads. If it was deleted nothing of value would be lost.

>>151820724
Don't respond to it.
Just ignore them.

How many /a/ meme were created last year? Did anybody count?

>>151820779
Ignoring only works when mods are awake.

>>151820791
0

>>151820791
Pretty much zero.
Not a single thing worth mentioning.

How do I join madokami irc on rizon?
/join does nothing.

>>151820797
Ignoring always works
>they get no attention
>they get bored
>they give up and stop posting

>>151820724
because moot turned cuckchan /pol/ into some grotesque zombie husk of its former self, filled with shills and shitposters and redditors while banning all legitimate posters and discussion. only the most cancerous newfags fall for it and thus they represent /pol/ when they spread their normal newfag cancer.

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I miss waha.

While she's not even a 4chan meme, I still miss her.

>>151820771
you can thank /pol/ actually, it's a common traditionalist & reactionary maxim, for obvious reasons. sometimes I think reactionary principles can be distilled to chesterton's fence alone

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You know, I start to believe that this fake quote is true.

>>151820606
>This is nothing but a good thing
Dude, what?
You're completely missing the point if you think isolation (and by extension stagnation - as I have pointed out several times in this thread already) is a good thing, It's certainly preferable to drowning in the torrent of shitposters most other boards suffered, but I cannot agree that it's a good thing.

>Which, FYI, has been true re: redditors since 2011 or 12 or so, which might be why you have so much trouble identifying what people are so threatened by.
I'm having trouble understanding what the hell you mean by this.

>>151820771
You and me both brother.

>>151820771
What if the fence has no use?

most people browsing /a/ nowdays had madoka as they first anime

I mean, goddamint, 2012 was fucking yesterday

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>>151820797
Here's a tip: if you're keep responding to them, you're doing it wrong.

>>151817319
Finally a way to end cuck memes.

>>151820779
>>151820797
>>151820819
Ignoring only ever worked on tripfags. sage was the answer, but sorry, shaming hurts redditors' feelings. thanks moot

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>>151819138
>First one is /qa/, /fa/ and other reddit-tier bs

Are you seriously that new here? What year did /qa/ and /fa/ start, anyway?

Well, it's to be expected, at one time 4chan had a unified board culture. At this point, the boards are large enough and isolated enough that they each have their own sets of memes and culture. Fewer and fewer memes spread cross-board now.

>>151820819
That's for trolls/attentionwhores. Cancer which zealously believes the crap it's spewing takes the lack of push-back as acceptance. The moment you stop telling /pol/ to fuck off is the moment they think they own /a/ and lose all inhibitions to spam pepe and trump.

>>151820865
Then it's time to remove it.

>>151820852
>pic
Well, look at the retards here pretending to be faggots for several years brought actual faggots in denial spamming shimakaze-kun.

>>151819301
It's filled with faggots, furries, and bananas. Also porn.

I remember when furries weren't acknowledged or allowed even in /b/. I guess when mlp came along and we herded them into their containment zone we ended up letting them sneak by.

>>151820891
But according to Chesterson if you can't see the use you can't remove it.
A truly useless fence can never be removed.

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Friendly reminder that 4chan will be put out of it's misery sooner than later because of how incompetent Hiroshima is.

I have no idea where I will go then and it scares me

>>151820928
You've actually missed the point of the fence.

>>151820928
Suppose it was there initially for an event, after which it was to be removed. Afterwards, the event ends.

You run around, and someone tells you the whole story, ending that they just forgot to remove it. The fence is useless now, isn't it?Then it's time to remove it.

>>151820966
Hence "and co". /pol/ is full of idiots who swallow whatever that ilk spew out and then ramble smugly about "the truth" to anyone they can.

>>151820973
So you claim useless fences never exist?

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>>151820968
No, you're here forever.

>>151820958
Oh god, I still remember that 2014 /v/ was a lot better than this, even though it was still shit.

>>151820973
So what's the point?

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>>151820859
Isolation from other boards' cancer is a good thing. It's how /a/ has always operated and it's very obvious why it's so. It does not necessarily have to result in stagnation, new blood is accepted if properly assimilated.

It might be hard for a total newfag like yourself to understand, but when someone calls out cross posters, they're not actually suggesting no one should ever browse other boards. Obviously most everyone on /m/ also browses /a/, what they mean is to keep whatever shit you might've dragged in from the other board outside the door - if you can tell you're a crossposter, you should just GTFO. just like if you can tell you're new, you should STFU and lurk.

>I'm having trouble understanding what the hell you mean by this.
Redditors had already mostly consumed the each of the major boards on 4chan beyond recognition by 2011 - 2012 depending on the board. Because you joined in 2013, you wouldn't really recognize the difference between 'posters on X board' compared to 'cancer on X board'.

>>151820968
Have faith anon. moot is working hard at Google right now to earn enough money to buy back 4chan from Heero Yuy, and to support it for as long as he lives. I hope.

>>151821001
Considering it's fairly applicable to /a/, you should think about it yourself and not post until you understand it.

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>>151820850
>I miss waha.
>While she's not even a 4chan meme, I still miss her.

Well, she's an adopted 4chan meme, back from when we still had a lot of cross-pollination with Futaba.

>>151820968
realtime is the future

>>151820958
What the fuck is happening at /v/

>>151820992
We're not talking about fences in general, we're talking about Chesterson's fence.

>>151820958
Where do you get that?
Fireden doesn't offer statistic.

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>>151821045

>>151820991
I mean, I guess you've got a point, but I kind of appreciate the board if only because you can express an unpopular opinion and there is a remote possibility that you'll have something resembling a discussion. Go to r/politics with an unpopular opinion and you just get banned.

>>151818884
>kind of far-too-insular circlejerky stagnation
That sounds more like generals.

Chesterson's fence assumes the fence was put up with good intentions and by a rational person.

>>151820973
No, he's right but it doesn't actually matter. The trick is that Chesterton is just laying a heuristic down for the newfag reformers to keep them in line. He doesn't actually have to follow it himself. Even following the rule, it's up to him, not the newfag, to make the decision to destroy it.

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>>151821049
>realtime
what's that? You mean normal life? That's the last thing I fucking need holy shit anon why are you making me even more depressed

>>151821079
*downvoted into oblivion and/or banned

>>151821050
It's completely overrun by immature retards that think it's funny to constant spam the exact same thing over and over again.
Just like pretty much all the other big boards

>>151820879
No, /qa/ and /fa/ are just trash

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>>151821073

Don't forget to Love Mikan, fellow oldfag.

>>151821079
I'm not arguing against the idea of /pol/, I'm just saying it's current incarnation has attracted a user base comprised of gullible imbeciles.

>>151820958
Better than /r9k/.
http://desuarchive.org/r9k/statistics/image-reposts/

>>151821145
What an ironic fate for a board that was originally designed to not allow reposts

>>151820191
There isn't one. That's why I'm here.

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>>151821113
>immature retards that think it's funny to constant spam the exact same thing over and over again.
I'm glad /a/ would never defend that.

>>151821161
I'm not sure if you are criticizing sakura fish but to defend him, at least he learns how to get a trip name.
His dedication was also spectacular.
(Not sure if he lost the trip though)

>>151819549
Some slow boards can be great. For example I greatly enjoyed the delusions about "cagers".

>>151819549
Sorry anon, but /diy/ and /po/ are arguably the best boards of this site.
They actually do shit.

>>151821158
That's a shame, I hoped there was secret place for manga fags.

>>151821001
It's a rhetorical paradox, meant to demonstrate how logical people and arrive at illogical conclusions, and, more importantly, to teach you to avoid the same kind of problem.
The trick is that the intelligent reformer is purposefully blurring the line between explanation and justification, in order to force the first reformer to think.
He demands the first reformer present an argument in favor of the fence as proof that he understands it.
By itself, that's a wise thing to do-- you must understand your opponent before you can attack him. Of course, if you never advance beyond playing devil's advocate, nothing will ever get done, and you're just giving ammunition to the other side of the issue.
In practice, most of the time the guy playing "intelligent reformer" will use this as a delaying tactic, or worse, receive the first reformer's argument in favor of the fence and say "see, told you the fence has to stay up, retard."
It only works if both sides are willing to listen.

>>151820533
OPT used to actually be good. You know, when people didn't repost the same stuff all the time and the threads weren't so often.

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>>151819138
>First one is /qa/, /fa/ and other reddit-tier bs

This is a good example of an Anon who doesn't know his own history.

Lol Winrar, 9000 Internets -- these 4chan memes are so old and so established that of course they would be among the first ones adopted by cultures outside 4chan.

Eventually they became stale and sowe stopped using them, and now newfriend anon only sees them coming from outside 4chan, where they continue to survive and propagate. So he assumes they are foreign reddit memes, rejecting his own native 4chan culture because he does not recognize it.

Also regarding >>151818019 I am glad we still have the ancient tradition of imouto threads, even if nobody else on /a/ (including mods) likes them.

>>151821213
/a/ is too fast.
Which is why we need manga board.

>>151821217
This is about it. There are still fags on here who have read 1000+ manga, but good luck catching them. Posting during Euro-time is better than daytime, but it's so hard to keep track of who's still left (because it was pretty obvious you talk to the same people over time) since we have even fewer threads than we did before.

>>151821223
>when people didn't repost the same stuff all the time
this comes and goes, recently it hasn't been as bad

>>151821161
You have a point.

I'd argue the difference is /a/ generally had fun and was nice to each other with stuff like that, whereas /v/ is just a constant loop of mean spirited people insulting each other.

Plus theyre using them reaction images that EVERYONE constantly reuses specifically for shitposting compared to one guy just pushing a joke. If sakurafishguy was telling people to kill themselves every day your point might make more sense.

>>151821213
/diy/ used to be better, and /po/ got wiped along with some crazy turns on pirated models.

>>151821269
It's probably because there haven't been any other manga threads at all apart from them.

>>151821161
The ability to successfully tread the gray is the difference between a decent poster and a shitposter.

Said picture's frequency of repost is relatively small. It's enough to be endearing, but not enough to be overused into oblivion. Furthermore, the few who do post this picture don't put it on a pedestal and act as if it's the most hilarious thing ever and deserves to be spammed: (bananas, frog, etc). It's not posted as a representation of funny, or as a face of anything. It's itself.

Shit man. This understanding used to be commonplace. It was only the newfags who haven't lurked long enough and were trying to fit in who didn't understand that we weren't trying to be funny for the sake of being funny. We were just being, and sometimes that being happened to be funny and sometimes it didn't. As such there was no need to run a joke into the ground, because the jokes were just happenstance and we were moving onto new happenstance by the time they ran out of steam.

>>151821288
Sakura Fish is definition of running joke into ground.
Just wasted board space.

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I find it funny that there are still people here who don't realize that most of /a/ also browses /pol/, /v/ and other boards.
Do you seriously think this board is pure?

>>151821338
I treat other boards like a zoo. I go there to watch the dumb animals throw their poop at each other but I don't start acting like an animal myself when I come home.

>>151821322
Not necessarily, it's been a source of all kinds of OC over the years. I miss the guy doing (classic) art x Sakurafish.

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>>151821338
>most of /a/ also browses /pol/

>>151821338
The percentage of /a/nons who browse /v/ has generally decreased in the past 10 years.

>>151818717
>old memes were just plain honest, weird and funny like a little girl who's going to school for the first time
>new memes have to be hidden behind walls of unironic irony and the result of shitposting like overused sluts who can't afford medicine for their urinary tract infection

>>151821338
Up until recently, /a/ was my source of everything. Current events included. Now, not so much.

>>151821322
No, it's just simple autism. Running a joke into the ground means spamming it every day multiple times a day until you exhaust the supply of newfags who'll react in glee to it since it's their first time seeing it then moving on to the next thing to squeeze for (You)s when everyone says "fuck off stop spamming". Meanwhile sakurafish guy is just doing his routine.

>>151821338
Not true

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>>151821134
Also, Yuzu!

Seriously, what the fuck are we still doing here? I thought I'd have grown out of 4chan by now. Maybe Hiroshimoot nuking this place will be the only thing that will finally stop me, but the thought of 4chan dying still makes me terribly sad.

>>151817141
>post-'now'
>funny pasta gets banned by mods to the point where the poster has to allude to what has been posted
>people react to it with snippets of the pasta as a sign of acknowledgement and respect
Dodging mods has made memes more versatile but FAR more abstract for newfags. I've seen this shit happen on /a/ and abroad.

>>151821384
>(You)s
Couldn't Hiro have just kept this turned off by default, so fucktards wouldn't complain it went away.

>>151821405
Considering anyone with a user script can still have it, complaints are an easy way to spot newfags still using vanilla 4chan.

>>151819138
This makes me sad.

>>151821403
Do you have an example?

>>151821429
The amount of people using non-vanilla must be practically zero these days. Bar /a/, it probably is nearly zero.

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Man /a/ is so civil. I don't think any other big board could have a thread with so many different discussions and arguments without anyone breaking down and spamming cuck/kys/pepe.png and the whole thing just becoming a pointless shit show.

I know we probably can't stop our ship from sinking in this endlessly rising tide of shit, but I'm glad to be on board with you guys through it all.

>>151821370
Post irony is the GREATEST thing to come out of 'meme' shit going mainstream.

>>151821429
I like vanilla.
>>151821450
>Bar /a/, it probably is nearly zero.
No.

>>151821338
That's weird, because every time people like you say that, I see more responses disagreeing. Like right now. So really, it seems more like the other way around, you might have overestimated how many of you are there.

>>151821439
complete insult to the franchise

>>151821004
Everything I have to say to this post would only be a repeat of my other posts in this thread, however you didn't actually explain what you meant by it. What does that have to do with anything I've been saying? Why did you post it in the first place?

All I'm saying is this:
1. "current" /a/ is stagnant
2. the stagnation is caused by "isolating" itself from anything seen as cancerous i.e crossborders, newfags, redditors etc
3. the end result is a "no fun allowed" atmosphere, stifling original content. this isn't to say nothing funny comes out of /a/ now, just that it's a shadow of its former self in that regard

Nowhere am I saying this is the worst case scenario, or that I'd prefer /a/ be like any other board. I'm simply saying that things are not ideal. Stop carrying the conversation away from the topic.

Is there anything more that you would like to add before I go to sleep?

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>>151821457
Little wonder why moot loved /a/ until the end.

>>151821403
I've seen newfags react to naruto gateway pasta for the first time recently. Shit's depressing. Thanks moot.

>>151821322
>successfully tread the gray

If you can't see the difference between that and bananas/frog, there's no hope for you. Multiple people aren't posting sakurafish in multiple thread for the sake of posting sakurafish to be funny/be acknowledged/fit in.

The frequency as which it's posted has decreased steadily over time. It's not some fad that everyone caught onto and wants to be a part of it to fit in. It's not flip haircuts. It's not wearing a silver chain around your neck. It's not posting frogs.

There's belonging, and there's wanting to fit in, wanting to jump in on the cool. If you can't tell the difference then you either haven't lurked long enough, don't belong, or just don't care.

Something I saw last year that gave me great price in /a/:
In the Mayoiga superthreads, there were oldfags actively reminding anons not to make a new thread until the current one hit page 10, and encouraging them to decide who would make the new one ahead of time.

>>151821338
I post exclusively in /a/ /his/, /wsg/ and /co/ I go on a few other boards regularly but I refuse to post on them as they are beneath me.
Crossboarders are fags that can't leave their baggage at the door. I keep my /co/ and /his/ shit there. I don't Stirner shit post in /a/ threads or autistically screech about how glad I am that space rocks will be canceled soon and are getting the Korra treatment.
I do occasionally act like a shitposting /a/ elite on other boards for comedic effect but only when anime has been raised by another poster. Hopefully it keeps crossboarders away from /a/ due to fear of bullies.

>>151821338
You are free to post on whatever board you like. Just don't bring their habits over when you're posting on /a/.

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But /a/ actually shares the dankest meme with [s4s]'s Keksandra.

>>151821322
No sakura fish is long term forced but NOT that saturated. Ket-ai is a fucking mistake. THAT is the definition of ran into the ground. I fucking hate ket-ai now. It used to be worth a giggle.
I am just glad newfags will never bother to ruin doorpunch and other shit like that due to the lack of spam potenial.

>>151821500
The only thing causing stagnation in /a/ is the increased amount of generals, and a lot of them attract outsiders who come here solely for those generals.

>>151821571
I think [s4s] used to be good. They have gotten a little too much popularity of late and people are reversetrolling with keksandra and other obvious [s4s] references.
[s4s] works best in a vaccum or spread lightly into standard posting. Not in the spamcampaigns it appears as these days.

>>151820447
>>151821571
>>151821576
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139

>>151821500
The stagnant atmosphere is a result of discussion devolving into a bunch of long running general threads with no cross pollination between them, and has nothing to do with people from other boards

>>151821530
Meanwhile jojo frequently has 2 generals up at the same time as well as a couple of "I just had a random jojo thought better make a thread for it" threads scattered around.

>>151821571
[s4s] was a mistake. It killed /b/ outright by taking out the random memery and putting it in a containment board.

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>>151821576
>newfags will never bother to ruin doorpunch
tough luck mate, it's happening a few thread from here right now

>>151821629
You know what you did was wrong. How are you going to repent?

>>151821656
You have to be kidding. Show me.

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>>151821571
>Keit-ai is the dankest meme of 4chan
>implying it's not Trump

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>2007 was 10 years ago

>>151821671
A few posts in this thread
>>151817381

>>151821683
>crying gif doesn't animate
crying.gif

>>151821679
/pol/ is not 4chan so no.

>>151821571
Post-ironic posting was a mistake. It invited Stormfags to /news/ then /pol/. created Anonymous within /b/, and gave birth to Bronies in /co/ (resulting in /mlp/).

People have no sense of irony anymore.

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>>151821571
>creating a meme movie
>mfw this shit is actually happening where I live

>>151821640
You are half right. It definitely has a thing to do with people from other boards. The most notorious example would be jojo were there are people who flat out admit they only come to /a/ for jojo threads.

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>>151821571
>>151821629
Keit-ai is already a manga. Stop posting it.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825

>>151821712
/vr/ was good for about 2 months before /v/ started really shitting it up, /ma/ will be the same sad story.

>>151821743
Why would they come shit it up if they don't read manga?

>>151821599
>>151821640
generalfags fall under what is considered cancerous. I don't really consider them /a/, just as they don't really consider themselves /a/.

>>151821721
Post-irony is even killing trap threads/culture. So many faggots who now think tongue-in-cheek gay shitposting is a greenlight for gay /soc/ shit.

>>151821737
>stopped going to jjba threads after the first season of the anime dropped
>only there to shitpost now on occasion
It was a harsh loss. The difference between then and now is staggering, though, to be fair, I was introduced to jjba on another board during a massive derail into discussion about how the stand arrows came about and what the meteorite might have been.

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>>151821571
/keit-ai/ board when?

>>151821766
Because it will be the place that represents the cool new /a/ and they are definitely not cancerous newfags so that must be where they belong.

>>151821778
Why the fuck isn't ket-ai a bannable offense. Less offensive things have been set up. Is there a mod who shitposts it or something?

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>>151821571
I have no fucking clue what Keksandra is supposed to be. Is it supposed to be [s4s]'s mascot like Vivian James from /v/?

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If 4chan is old and busted now, where does the new generation of 'that weird kids' post? I mean it's normal to look for an internet treehouse when you're underage, isn't it?

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>>151821808
>Why the fuck isn't ket-ai a bannable offense.

But it is. The only problem is that doing so only invited proxyfags into getting in the action.

>>151821808
It is bannable. The mods just aren't around all the time. People should still do their part and keep reporting, of course.

>>151821816
Black Twitter and Vine is where Millennials make their cancer memes.

>>151821816
Reddit. No joking, actually reddit.

>>151821808
>What is the Streisand Effect?

Banning it only made it more ubiquitous.

>>151821816
subreddits and vine and twitter I'm guessing.

>>151821792
This is mostly true, however, I think it's possible for someone to be cancerous in one place and not in another.
For example, when I get into a niche seasonal show with only 20 other people ever interested during a thread I am courteous and we all have a great time. When there's a massive rolling thread/general about something that is seasonal while I might start out quality I will go with the flow and shit post, in time.
You can't squeeze water from rocks so you might as well enjoy throwing them through windows. It's a common goods problem. The second shit posting tips the scales and quality is no longer even moral viable is when it all goes down.

>>151821721
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-irony

Did 4chan meme post-irony into reality or is it the other way around?

>>151821857
You're kidding. Reddit is as normalfag as boards come.

>>151821816
They can still come to 4chan they're just more likely to wind up a cancerous little shithead.

>>151821869
Only a few autists will persist if there's enough mods doing their job (and they'll post anyway, ban or no ban so they're irrelevant). Most of the shit would actually be curbed because most of them are just posting because they're parroting others.

>>151821869
Not always. I've seen blanket bans end things on other boards. The trick was with those, I suppose, was the demographic wasn't as ingrained into other areas. If all the ketai posters were into a particular show and that alone, then banning it would stop that shit quickly as they would have no reason to stay.
If they were all jojofags then banning jojo here would make them go back where they came from and their spam with them. Ket-ai has been left too long and now people that ACTUALLY post here are part of the cancer.

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>>151821571
>>151821857
Can confirm that Read It (the front page of the Internet and has a double digit ranking in Alexa) is where all memes come from now.

4chan is going the way of Something Awful and Ebaum's World.

>>151821915
>Keit-ai found a way around bans

FINDS

>>151821571
Appropriate. Only Keit-ai can elicit rage as much as Keksandra does.

Even mods hate Keit-ai.

>>151821915
>Ket-ai has been left too long and now people that ACTUALLY post here are part of the cancer.

So the cancer has metastasized, huh? Stage 4?

>>151821891
I know they can, but what I meant is that 4chan has long lost its' magnet quality as 'teh weirdest place on the internetz' and probably isn't as attractive for younger people as it was to me when I started lurking a few years ago. I just wonder if ther's a comparable place and I can't fucking believe it could really be twitter (it's just a network of individual accounts) or reddit (no way this shithole has fame as unique as old 4chan).

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>>151821679
No, that's our greatest prank so far.

>>151821919
Wait, is that a meme arrow on the spoiler warning at the top of the page?

>>151821936
Please no.

>>151821890
So is /pol/, but slow boards like /out/ still exist.

>>151821975
Now that you mention it, yes. Generals are all benign. They can be removed and their symptoms with them without much effort. If you leave them too long when they burst some of the posters will travel to a new location and start contributing to a new general tumour. Repeat this cycle long enough and they will evolve out from the shadow of generals and start behaving like regular posters in all but their post quality.

>>151821915
Blanket bans is what killed rampant Tripfaggotry on /a/, wasn't it?

>>151821989
Not him, but there really isn't a "successor" to 4chan. Reddit has its fair share of weird boards but since becoming mainstream it's grown even more cancerous than before.Twitter is a fucking joke.