Summarize the theme of FSN in one sentence.

>>151796276
Dum de dum de dummm, de dum dum dee

How'd I do?

>>151796276
A guy who redundantly know the concept of death is given a female king in a quest to obtain the wish-granting cup Jesus placed his blood into.

>>151796418
That's not a theme.

Ideals vs Reality

>>151796276
A hack makes visual novel that has a cool premise but is ultimately poorly written.

>>151796506
see>>151796466

Shit

>>151796276
Worst girl isn't in the photo, all is right with the world.

>>151796619
But she's right there, in between Shirou and Shirou

Male self-insert wish fulfillment

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>>151796276
Swords.

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Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity,
wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

>>151796637
Even JACKHAMMER is better than wormslut

People not dying when they're killed.

>>151796684
This is so stupid I am struggling to tell you just how stupid this is.

>>151796276
It's all about sex.

>>151796717
You could have stopped at idealism vs utilitarianism. The story is about whether it's better to aim for a realistic goal you can actually achieve or idealistic goals you probably cant ever achieve. It's a pretty stupid theme since obviously deciding to become a super hero is retarded and childish. It's not something you need to think about or debate.

The person you are vs The person you want to be.

>>151796276
TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY

>>151796276
It's porn with plot, don't think about it too hard.

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This visual novel, much like many other Japanese works, borrows many themes from Nietzsche's work; thus, the main theme is the importance of having dreams.

However, it would not be honest to just tell you that one thing as other people would also tell you another "one thing". And because I've already cleared your condition, I think it's only fair that I am able to continue.

Truthfully, I didn't know that the themes were borrowed from Nietzsche when I was first reading it. To put it another way, this visual novel was an impetus: the way I thought and actions I partook in may have never happened without it. Sure, most of the writing may be vapid, and the story may be lacking in some's opinions, but the philosophy behind the story was a true stroke of genius, a mind changer.

It may not even be in your best interest to read this visual novel if themes are truly what you're after. If I was writing this to myself in the past, the past me still would've enjoyed it more than reading Nietzsche by itself because I had friends to talk about it to. But if you don't, if you're just reading this story to enjoy it by yourself, I must recommend "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" instead. Fuck Japan and their stupid retard shit.

>>151796276
Ore wa Seigi no Mikata

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>>151796276

A rare series where the husbandos are better than the waifus.

>>151796276
you can't save everyone

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>>151796276
There's no punctuation, so it counts as one sentence.

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>>151796276
I can't save everyone, or can I?

>>151796276
Saber is best girl.

>>151796276
People liked the original so let's pull spinoffs without end out of our ass.

Fuck I hate what they did with this franchise the original 3 routes were enough now you are even considert a casual if you didn't play the 50 spinoffs and played a fucking phone game.

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>>151797923
>Not even allowed to choose the lives of the many over Sakura except in one scene far before it's revealed that she's a threat of the tier that she is

I think part of why people take such a beef with Heaven's Feel is that in a medium all about choice it puts you in this on-rails story where either you go edgelord way too early or you HAVE to prioritize Sakura over everyone else. The only alternative is getting offed by Rider.

>>151796276
Tohsaka's Anus

>>151796276
Moralfaggotry

>>151796276
cu's lance

>>151796276
>Lancer with his husband Archer, their son Shirou and their three daughters-in-law.

>>151796619
For hating Sakura, you sure are obsessed with her.

>>151798732
Killing your innocent girlfriend is pretty edgy no matter when you do it. The shadow manifesting through her was just a symptom of the diseased grail.

>>151797027
Which is funny because most of our current world politics are based on blind idealism nowadays.

>keep throwing more money at africa, surely eventually they sort themselves out.
>let them in, they will definitely blend in with our society and culture and not the way around.

>>151803216
>killing innocent girl but also solving all the problems
vs.
>Letting innocent girl live but also causing massive amounts of causalities
The only reason Shirou stopped trying to be a hero in that route is because of his dick

Going by Nasu's words: 'Conquering oneself'.

>>151796276
Shirou true path and love is with Sakura.

He learns from all previous routes and makes the best decisions at last.

/thread

>>151803435
The grail would still be there under the mountain after killing Sakura. They'd have to go destroy it anyways to prevent deaths, so there's no point in killing Sakura. Why should she have to die for the sake of a bunch of strangers?

>>151803775
>disregarding the lives and emotions of people he doesn't know
That's some literal autism you're showing there

>151803775
Shirou wants to be a hero. Heroes save strangers. Shirou stops saving strangers because his dick tells him so

>>151804091
>disregarding the life and emotions of people who you love
Now that's autism.

>>151804178
Heroes don't kill their innocent girlfriends.

>>151796276
If all else fails stick your dick in it

Shirou is the red man

people die when they are killed. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRBC4WNQzVDvbTeswXMLcgrLjQvgTNPko5JfHV97-d9DNNMskeAQ

>>151804209
Not that guy, but Shirou never ignores or is indifferent to Sakura's life, even in the bad end where he decides to kill her before getting killed by Rider. He loves her all the way up until the end. But the Shadow was taking people every night, and every one of those people also had family and lovers and hopes and dreams. Killing Sakura would be a genuinely hard decision, and it just so happens to work out that anyone dies that particular night, but anyone who could actually completely disregard all those lives like that would be indifferent to a psychologically abnormal degree.

>>151796276
Heroic ideals

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>that moment in HF when shirou finally abandons his borrowed ideals for his true love

>>151796276
Shit

anime tiddies

>>151803435
That's definitely not true. This is the first time in the VN where he's forced to sacrifice someone other than himself in order to keep his ideal. Ultimately, Shirou just can't do it because the reason why he's willing to sacrifice himself so many times is because of survivor's guilt and he finally recognizes that his ideal is incompatible with reality.

>>151797923
Top fucking kek

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>>151797045

OHOHOHOHOHOHO

You can't save everyone (but you should save those you love)

>>151806031
Heh, I love realism bro.