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Bleach >two and a half stars on amazon.jp What went wrong?

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Bleach
>two and a half stars on amazon.jp

What went wrong?
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>>151789411
>What went wrong?

Didn't end after Soul Society
Proceeded with Ichigo being some Cultural Enriched uber human grim reaper ghost demon.
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2 and a half is not a complete disaster by Japanese standards.
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kubo drank too much of his own product
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Google translating the reviews throw up some fun results

>1.0 out of 5 stars
>Did you have to have children?
>Posted by South Posted 2016/11/8
>Who would want to see the sequel of such a horrible cartoon?
>Do you think that fans will be pleased to finish abortion and make a sequel smell
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>>151789442
that's still dissapointing for a final volume.
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>>151789411
Dude, that would have happened if it was Ichiruki either way.

The manga got that because of fanboys/fangirls complaining about of Orihime getting with Icihgo and Rukia getting with Renji.

>>151789528
See here. The fanboys are pissed that their waifu didn't get to be with their husbando.
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>>151789411

It's just faggots being butthurt.
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>>151789528
>1.0 out of 5 stars
>It's too boring and dangerous
>ContributorHmmNovember 20, 2016
>Format: Comic
>There is no value to sell in secondhand books. A book that is only about the kind of fire of a bonfire.
>When I read it, my heart is cold enough to get cold, but if I write a book for a fire, only the body warms up.
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>>151789411
Peaked early in it's run and then ran itself into the ground.
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>>151789411
about fucking time. being a asshole to your fans that support your shitty manga for years. it bit you in the ass. don't ever support Tite Kubo
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Amazon jp has a lot more downvote trolls than english Amazon it's amazing.
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>kek
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>>151789411
That's two and a half stars more than this series deserves.
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>>151789989
what fucking video games get passing score on jap amazon seriously, everything just gets downvoted to shit.
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>>151789411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACq7tgjHdGA
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>>151789989
I still don't get the culture that causes this. Are they really just trolling or do they find one or two petty complaints and 1star?
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>>151789411
To be fair this probably has downvotes from Western fans as well.
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>>151789989
How the hell does the french version gets so much good scores they keep saying everything is shit if its not hipster to death.
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Rushed towards the end of the final arc. Didn't get to see Hisagi's bankai.

Also felt like they were trying to set up for another Boruto with Ichigo/Orihime's kid and Rukia/Renji's kid
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>>151789411
How can you fucked up that fucking much fucking bleach man. Separated the main couple and shit out a buncha kids to really seal the deal as afinal fucking fuck you to the fucking fans. He might as well carve"FUCK YOU" on my chest and took a shit on it. Fucking Kubo man, may he never sleep soundly ever again and pissed and shit himself everytime
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>>151790237
Didn't read the FF reviews, but the Pokemon reviews sound pretty pissed with too much dialogue, being leaded on the hand and not enough exploration feeling.
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>>151790366
>people mad that a historically linear game is linear.

Personally, I just want an open world 3D Pokemon that abandons the turn-based system for an action one that relies on skill. Surprised FF did it first, to be honest.
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>>151790360
>Separated the main couple
Yeah that main couple that had no on-screen romantic chemistry of any sort and had less reason to exist than the coupling that did happen, which at least came from one of the characters literally being defined by her love for Ichigo.

Bleach's writing is hot garbage where what you see is what you get, albeit in a poorly explained manner. There is no subtlety in this series, and since there is no overt romantic implications between Ichigo and Rukia (or any for that matter) expecting them to end up together makes you literally retarded.
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>>151790250
Frenchmen are tsundere.
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>>151790518
Thanks god Pokemon is successful enough to not have to destroy its soul to sell. Before I get shitposted do death FFXV story was fine and the action system is a good idea on paper, they just turned the complex gameplay into spam teleport to win.
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>Oda's face when Kubo will never work as mangaka for Shueisha ever again
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Easy:

Defend Bleach's last arc, and its finale, without resorting to pairings.
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>>151790589
>Yeah that main couple that had no on-screen romantic chemistry of any sort and had less reason to exist than the coupling that did happen, which at least came from one of the characters literally being defined by her love for Ichigo.
Maybe that's true but it doesn't matter if the bigger chunk of fans end up liking the wrong pairing anyway. It cant have just been a fluke that the wrong pairing was so much more popular than the right one. You can't blame anyone but Kubo for that. Like how bloody easy would it have been for him to have put in Rukia giving Orihime a little advice about Ichigo or teasing her a bit before she fucked off to Mexico. That would have killed IchigoxRukia dead years ago. Or just have Ichigo refer to rukia as an old lady/ Rukia refer to ichigo as a little kid.
Don't misunderstand me, I didn't root for any pairing. I just think Kubo could have saved himself a lot of hassle and backlash if he'd killed off any Ichigoxrukia potential concisely years ago.
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>>151789989
>hating FF15
>"trolls"
Do you understand that FF15 is official kusoge and betrayed expectation of people?
>>151790237
It's real reviews read them. And try to compare agaist amazone.com ones
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>>151789989
Don't know about Pokemon, but FF15 is pretty fucking shit to be honest
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>>151791024
It was good though
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>finally get around to finishing bleach yesterday
>that fucking ending
what just happened.. Why didnt he just rewrite the future so the arrow couldnt hit him?
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>>151791113
That would imply that Kubo cares about his fans whatsoever.
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>>151791024
1. It rectified critisisms that the Fake Karakura Town war had

2. It actually connected back with all the Qunicy stuff that was built up (and the final villian was integral)

3. The art is still good

4. Manga got light novels despite the rushed ending to tie up shit instead of forcing it down to 2 movies and a gaiden to explain shit like ANOTHER MANGA I KNOW.

5. There were plenty of characters like Rukia, and Soi Fon who got good fights. Hell, Renji actually didn't job at all either since he beat Mask De Masculine.
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>>151791157
Because he wouldn't know what the arrow would do until after it hit; at which point it would be too late to do anything about it. If Yhwach just dodged it like anyone else would, he'd have won, but he was already too used to relying on his Almighty.
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>>151791157
Arrow was Juha Bach's kryptonite. Plus it was shot by Uryu who had the antithesis, so it was protected by Uryu's power.

Also, rushed ending because of editors.
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>>151790170
Persona 5 has a 4.3/5.0 on amazon jp
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>>151789411
Shippers.
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>>151789989
Square Enix is the new Blizzard
They could release a desiccated turd with the words "Final Fantasy" carved on it and the fanboys would still hail it as a contemporary RPG masterwork
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>>151790170
>>151791300
Dark Souls 3 has a good score too.
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>>151791300
>>151791425
Because those are good games
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>>151791424
Then why does everyone hate the FFXIII trilogy?
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>narusaku fans downvoting any pic with Hinata/Sasuke
>IchiRuki fans downvoting this
Poetry
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>>151791424
Most western people who praise FF15 don't even know who is Kusoge Missionary Motomu Toriyama and who actually made FF series good in past
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>>151791252
>the art is still good
That fucking same oval face with a line on the upper lip. Earlier, they have characters and distinctions to them, only to become male models later on. Its seems to be a real problem with long running manga
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>>151789989
This just proves westerners are lemmings. FFXV is boring with uninteresting character designs (the main character is literally 3D Sasuke) and pokemon is just the same old fucking game done a million times before
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>>151791485
>why does everyone hate the FFXIII trilogy
Maybe /v/ and /vg/ do (and for good reason)
The trilogy averages 3.9 stars (PS4) and 4.0 stars (Xbox) on Murkan Amazon, wouldn't exactly call it "hate"
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>>151791300
Twewy has 4.2. Maybe their taste is good.
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>>151791113
>Rukia refer to ichigo as a little kid.
She literally does when they first meet though? She says something along the lines of "what in the world is this child?"
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>>151789411

He tanked his life's legacy just as a fuck you to Jump.

Dude's a hero.
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>>151791718
>He tanked his life's legacy just as a fuck you to Jump.
Let this meme die already.
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>>151790337

underrated post
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>>151791718
>He tanked his life's legacy just as a fuck you to Jump.
>Dude's a hero.

Well when you put it like that it does make him seem kind of great. I think you might be giving him too much credit though.
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>>151791620
Probably not. Both people who were updating this chart were huge Rukiafags. They got so upset at the ending that they refused to update the chart.
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>stated that he always planned to end the manga with kazui and ichika meeting
>people still think the ending is to spite JUMP
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What went wrong was that Kubo chose the wrong girl for the IchiBowl
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>>151791928
He can say whatever he wants too but its not necessarily true to be fair. Turns out Hermione was black all along.
I'm pretty sure he hadn't even come up with Renji at the start of Bleach.
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>>151792064
I believe it. Not sure if he always planned it though, but it would make sense as to why he decided to create Renji. He turned out to be her love interest and the one she had a child with. I

Ichigo already had Orihime so he needed one for Rukia.
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>>151792064
Hermione was never meant to be black all along, JK Rowling just said that there was nothing in her character that stated that she couldn't be black if people wanted to read her that way
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>>151790360
>Separated the main couple
he did this after the ss arc.

why are you acting like he did it at last minute? rukia and ichigo were separated majority of the manga.
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>>151789989
Even normalfag japs love to downvote shit they slightly dislike, just go to youtube and watch some random japanese jewtuber.
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>>151789989
Why is French Amazon so shit? In fact why is online shopping so terrible in France anyway?
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>>151792227
For some people, SS was the majority of the manga. Or they're anime only fags.
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>>151791740

>Let this meme die already.

I won't. That was not his planned ending and he'll never tell anyone the truth.

Real Bleach ending goes with him to the grave.
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>>151789411
>>two and a half stars on amazon.jp
You mean the shitposters that put 1 star on everything?


It sold 500k, the rukia novel is a best seller and it's getting a live action movie.

>What went wrong?
Nothing.
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>>151790360
You're a pathetic fucking faggot (ie shipper)if you think that the problem with bleach was the couples and not the plot.

The way so many of these posters act its like this was aharem or shoujo manga. It was a battle shonen manga. Romance is the least thought through and least important aspect of this genre. Shippers were asking to get burnt if they ever had any kinds of expectations going into this manga.
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>>151792448
>>What went wrong?
>Nothing.
Listen I love Bleach, but a lot went wrong.
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>>151792479
Sure you are
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>What went wrong?
A LOT
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The first 2/3rds of the bloodwar arc were great with tension and lots of revelation then the elite sternritters came and it went to shit.
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>>151789411
>What went wrong?
Everything
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>>151792427
I think the happy ending with the couples and new generation is what he had in mind, but getting there was the problem. He just needed to give us a good final fight, answer a few missing questions, show the missing bankais and show the missing characters. If he did, I feel like the backlash wouldn't have been so harsh.
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>>151792516
>Completely forgetting Asken Naak Le Varr
>forgetting all the Mayuri stuff with Pernida.

Come on dude, at least be accurate.
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>>151792516
Mayuri vs Pernida was 10/10

Shunsuis fight started out great but the flashbacks were too frequent and broke up the pacing, 'plot sword' complaints aside.

Askin fight was decent until Kisuke used his Bankai, that finale was fantastic.

Gerard fight was mostly just exposition and fanservice for the popular captains with a massively anticlimactic finish.
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>>151792689
>Gerard fight was mostly just exposition and fanservice for the popular captains with a massively anticlimactic finish.
The fucking worst fight. Not that it matters since I'm sure the nips loved adult Toshiro and his interactions with Byakuya.
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>>151791959
>girl
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>>151792726
I'd consider it the worst of the four; Kenpachi bankai was hype, he should've been the one to finish Gerard.
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>>151792172
In one of the books she came back with a fucking tan after the summer. She also chose Emma Watson herself and openly referred to her skin color in terms for Caucasians. Rowling also pointed out several times when characters were black in stories, the only reason she said this bullshit about Hermione being black is due to her growing incredibly PC.
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>>151793099
Or maybe her skin colour really has no effect on her character? Just because she was written as white doesn't mean she couldn't be black. What really would change apart from a really minor visual characteristic?
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>>151793215
Its not like she was written as awhite supremacist or anything that would make her colour relevant.
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>>151789411
The ending was fucking atrocious. Years of building up the final fight wasted by 'lol we're in the future now.' Not to mention that he left a shitload of things unresolved that left most people unsatisfied. The only people who liked the ending are shipperfags.
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>>151793215
I'm not saying it matters especially for some garbage stage play. I'm saying the author is full of shit claiming that she was always intended to be read as either race.
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>>151793489
source, I've never seen her claim that she was always intended to be black.
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>>151793482
>shitload of things unresolved
these shitload of things are addressed in the novel. and in the spring another one is coming out, which will address the SK, fullbringers, arrancars and noble families.
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Lackluster fights or skipping fights entirely. what was even the point of thor quincy if he is only going to be absorbed by juha and the other quincy who becomes a bird.
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>>151793655
>read the novel lol

Even if the novel answers questions that doesn't make the ending of the manga any less shit. Novels should be used to expand on characters, not tell you vital shit that HAD to be on the manga.
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>>151793885
read the novel
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>>151790360
PARALLELS
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It was an awful ending, regardless of whoever Ichigo ended up with
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>>151792516
Is this drawn by Kubo?
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>>151789989
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>>151793885
Or kubo isn't done yet and will continue the manga some other time.
The novel is just fan service.
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>>151790777

Explain this pls
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>>151792516
Agreed but Askin chapters were decent at least
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>>151795881
Askin was best SR
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>>151791252
The manga went to complete trash after the monk fight, and even then it was really starting to get bad.
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Any news from the novel? New translations?
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>>151789411
Bleach went to hell after Soul Society. That's what went wrong.
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>>151798173
No but someone did an in-depth translation of the first Spirits novel, I don't have a link unfortunately.
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>>151798308
Actually it went to Hueco Mundo, Hell was a movie-only arc.
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>>151790622
Oui c'est vrai !
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>>151789411
>What went wrong?
The last arc was really bad and it just wouldn't quit. I'm sure Kubo would have dragged it out for another decade if he wasn't stopped.
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>>151789411
I stopped watching after the filler arc about the little girl halfway during the Hueco Mundo arc. Can someone explain to me (preferably in detail and without memes) how Bleach fell from one of the big Shounen Three to a mockery and a joke? Even ignoring /a/'s shitposting, Bleach went from being one of the most frequent cover contributors of Shounen Jump to a rushed anime with a manga that was ended on editorial mandate.

What happened? Even if we consider Soul Society to be a lucky fluke, Bleach remained popular well into the Arrancar/Hueco Mundo arc.
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>>151799210
>Even if we consider Soul Society to be a lucky fluke, Bleach remained popular well into the Arrancar/Hueco Mundo arc.
People have been holding out hope until the very end that Soul Society wasn't a fluke. They thought that HM's tediousness was the fluke, and that it'll all get better later on like the good old days. But Kubo really turned out to be a poor writer, not a master troll or something.
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>>151791506
I hoped Kubo would spare Bleach this, but it fits with the shitty overall finale, so ok.
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>>151790170
Western video games
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>>151789411
Everything. It became a terrible series after the Soul Society arc, and even then wasn't that good.
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>>151792806
Still mad that Unohana had to die so we could see such a lame-ass letdown.
Fuck this.
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>>151799512
So Amazon.jp is frequented by westaboos? Probably not, that's a silly question.
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>>151799423
After the anime studio shitted on Kubo scrypt for the Hell movie, Kubo got so mad that he aborted the Hell arc in the manga and started a new arc from scratch, the fullbringer-arc. That arc was so bad that Kubo got brain damage from it.
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>>151792806
Kubo made Kenpachi, Toshiro and Byakuya job to Gerard because they were the most popular captains and he was butthurt because the editor didn't let him kill anyone from them.
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>>151789444
>>151799555

Trips confirmed Bleach died at Soul Society.
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>>151793489
She never said that. She just said her race was never explicitly stated, so if they wanted to cast a black actress it wouldn't be a problem.

How about just listening to the creators? Kubo was not trying to spite WSJ. Ichirukifaggots, stop being so retarded. This is why no one likes you.
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>>151795881
>>151796345
He was my favorite. Askin and Giselle (and zombie Bambi). Everyone else was trash.
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>>151789989
What do they hate about Sun&Moon?
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>>151789411
APOLOGIZE IchiHime & RenRuki cucks!
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>>151799620
Face it, Unohana was stale as fuck before her backstory, by which point the outcome was obvious.
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>>151799761
Pretty sure it was to keep the powerlevels consistent; no matter how strong those captains were, Gerard was literally Soul King tier in terms of power.
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>>151791113
>Kubo could have saved himself a lot of hassle and backlash if he'd killed off any Ichigoxrukia potential concisely years ago.
This and not prepping up Ichigo->Orihime more is what Kubo did wrong.

I remember back in SS arc when Ichigo/Rukia shippers said Renji/Rukia is dead, but I was thinking, it could have easily been killed after the "resolution" (Rukia apologizes and accepts that she's worth saving, they're friends again, Renji fades into the background as he realizes Ichigo is better for her). But rather than that, Kubo made Renji grandly state "I'll never let her go, you bastard" to the series' big bad with Rukia in his arms, and would gladly die for her if not for Ichigo's timely help. And then HM arc came and Renji's there again, beginning their frequent co-appearances instead of fading into the background like Yamcha.

Conversely, the same thing happens to Ichigo/Rukia. Rather than properly showing how Orihime makes Ichigo feel, after the "thanks to you, the rain has stopped" resolution at the end of SS arc, Kubo keeps revisiting how time and again, Rukia is the person who can kick Ichigo back into shape and keep showing significant eye contacts between Ichigo and Rukia.

When Kubo said he didn't want romance to be the focus, perhaps what he meant to say was "I can't write romance".
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>>151800485
Better stale than an edgelord that turns into a sacrificial lamb.
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>>151800626
>Rather than properly showing how Orihime makes Ichigo feel
ok m8
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>>151791296
How does Antithesis protect the arrow at all?
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>>151800797
>No characterization is better than characterization I don't like

Okay kid
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>>151800626
>keep showing significant eye contacts between Ichigo and Rukia.
He does this a lot with Ichigo and Orihime too. Re-read the manga.

>Rukia is the person who can kick Ichigo back into shape
Not really. A lot of different characters have been shown to kick him into shape or raise his spirits by tough love-his father, Yoruichi, Chad, Ganju etc.

After the SS arc, she does it twice. The HM arc with the "man in my heart speech" and then in the FB when she returns his powers and that's literally it.
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>>151798173
Part 4 is released in the app. Aside from the part already translated (Shinji showing up, Dark Momo), there's also the start of Reports 3 with Hitsugaya visiting his grandma in Rukongai and running into Ganju, Isshin is mentioned.
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>>151800877
Jugram says its a hard counter to The Almighty, I assume thats what hes basing that statement on.
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>>151800868
That arc would have been perfect as a demonstration of feelings if we didn't see Ichigo doing the exact same shit for another girl.
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>>151800960
>Bad characterization is better than no characterization.
That's all I'm hearing out of you.
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>>151800986
>with Hitsugaya visiting his grandma in Rukongai
Icefag got some screentime.
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>>151801055
When does he do this for another girl? I know he also went through hell to rescue Rukia, but I don't remember him literally going into berserk mode with her sole safety on his mind.
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>>151801056
>implying objective opinions

'Bad characterization' is subjective, m8
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>>151800868
Ichigo has always wanted to protect people. What I meant is more stuff like pic.
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>>151800986
>Hitsugaya visiting his grandma in Rukongai and running into Ganju
>Isshin is mentioned
Oh wow, could it actually be happening?
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>>151801112
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>>151789411
>Amazon
>103 votes/reviews

shit bait thread
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>>151801206
Narutofags have been in full force for the past year now
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>>151801179
Not sure. Maybe someone can translate/summarize while we wait for the RR chick?
http://j-books.shueisha.co.jp/file/bleach_wakly04
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Trivia: This fandom would be more peaceful if IchiRuki happened instead.
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>>151801228
>implying /a/ hasn't been shitting on bleach for years
80% of the posts in bleach threads over the past 6 years have been people complaining about how shit it is. Just because Ichigo got his end away with the titty monster doesn't suddenly make it a quality series.
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>>151801422
But Narutofags are the only ones who actually care about how shitty it is, to the point where they spam Bleach threads when the fanbase has clearly set sail long ago. Just goes to show how insecure they are about how shit Naruto is that they need to remind everyone that theres at least one other battle shounen that sucks as hard as Naruto does.
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>>151801422
>doesn't suddenly make it a quality series.
No one's saying that. It's the opposite actually.

People are acting as Ichihime ruined the series which is didn't.
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>>151801422
>Level 1 reader can't even tell how tsundere /a/ was for Bleach
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>Karin turned megamilk

Kubo went wrong when he didn't immediately announce a sequel to Bleach starring ichigo's imoutos
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>>151801611
Are there any anime/manga where a tsundere slowly loses respect for someone she used to be deredere towards, but pays attention to them anyway because she can't let go of the happy times they spent together?
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>>151801419
Who cares what IRfags want? They were the worst part of the entire Bleach fanbase. I have never come across such deranged shippers in my life.
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>>151801719
>Ichirukifag projecting his disappointment over the ending again
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>>151801419
Yeah, no. It'd be the same but with IRfags doing the gloating and drinking IHfags' tears instead.
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>>151801611
/a/ hasn't been tsundere for bleach for years. I'd say up till about a third of the way through the final arc.
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>>151801788
No it wouldn't and you're a delusional Rukiafag if you think it would be.
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>>151801737
Because IchiRuki takes up 70% of the fanbase and should have happened.

>>151801788
There aren't that many IchiHimefags to drink tears from. So you're wrong.
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>>151801803
You haven't been in the several maxed out bleach threads every week then.
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>>151801701
Yes, the biggest tragedy from all of this is there will never be anymore content to feature final chapter Karin.
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>>151789411
Kubo a shit.
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>>151801179
Ganju reminds Hitsugaya of Isshin (and he already knows that Ichigo's dad is him) and wonders if Ganju will someday be a shinigami in Seireitei.
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>>151789820
>Kubo and Yngwie in the same picture. Fucking hell it all makes sense
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>>151801845
Oh like a beaten wife I've been back here every week for years. Theses threads are like 20 people arguing or circle wanking about shipping. Back in 06 to 10 you had hundreds of people in bleach threads and shipping hardly ever came up.
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>>151801228
>>151801570
>It's Narutofags's fault!
Guys, come on.
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>>151801825
>Ichirukifags
>Make up 70% of the fanbase

Why do IRfags think that they make up so much of the Bleach fanbase?
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>>151801756
I'm a RenRuki shipper from SS arc who feels like >>151801719 though. I dropped Bleach some time after the Kenpachis Muken fight, but still occasionally catch up to see if it'll ever be good again. But then the 192739 sternritters happen, soul king is never explained, fullbringers are deus ex machina and so are the dads. And no Kubo can't even draw Renji and Rukia looking lovey dovey in their own wedding novel.
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>>151801995
Are you new?
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>>151802032
Are you?
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>>151801995
You can't possibly have a negative opinion about bleach without being a Narutofan. Bleach is that good.
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>>151802027
I think that's just Kubos style though-on the whole lovey dovey thing. We never even saw his canon couples act lovey dovey with each other.
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>>151802096
I agree. Narutofags are super jealous of our manga kino.
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>>151802089
If you weren't you'd know Narutofags have a massive inferiority complex since they were basically banned from discussing their garbage on /a/ for years.
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>>151801821
So me pointing out that IRfags would be the ones shitting up Bleach threads instead if their ship was canon makes me a Rukiafag? Kek.

>>151801825
Anon. We'd all know that Bleach fandom would in no way be "peaceful" if Ichirukifags won.
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>>151802217
>Our donkey shit is superior to their horse shit!
Is that what the Bleach fanbase is reduced to now?
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>>151802027
>Kubo can't even draw Renji and Rukia looking lovey dovey in their own wedding novel.
They're literally flustered and blushing like mad over simply announcing that they're getting married. Rukia isn't even looking at the shinigami around the table because of how flustered she is.
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Nayura should have beeen in the manga.

Ryuunosuke shouldn't have.

This is illustrating how bad Kubo's planning is.
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>>151799637
Them japs love their mechas, i don't know a single game from japan with mechs that runs or looks as good as titanfall
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>>151802255
I don't think anyone would even discuss bleach anymore if ichiruki had won. Bleach threads over the last few months have been mostly laughing at ichiruki fags but if the roles where reversed I don't think the ichihime fags would kick up much of a fuss.
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>>151801871
Well damn, I was hoping for something a little more than what seems like a throwaway line.
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Does Renji x Rukia remind anyone else of Roy x Riza? Both pairings are attached at the hip and both don't have overly-done romantic scenes, but we know and can feel that they both care for each other a lot. It's subtle, but there. I like it.
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The pinpointed moment that Bleach passed the point of no return was the moment they entered Hueco Mundo.

It was irreperably shit for 10 years, almost to the day.

Ichigo's magic training session to get a new power that took his powers away for good (honest) and beating Aizen off panel was the final nail.
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>>151802292
I think you missed the point 5 posts ago...
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>>151802347
I'm an Ichihimefag, and I would've been upset of course but I wouldn't have made the fuss IRfags are doing. They've just completely lost it at this point and I think the diaper fanfic proves it.
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>>151802373
>beating Aizen off panel

What?
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So.... I'm a fan of bleach and will always remember the good parts but I'm not delusional enough to say that it's overall good. You gotta actually think about if you where the editor what would you remove? If your answer is less than half the content I would be surprised.
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>>151802411
>One IchiRukifag writes a diaper fanfic and so we are all guilty of writing a diaper fanfic.
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>calling shit manga shit gets you called a shipper
wew
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>>151802411
You're fucking retarded.
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>>151802548
Alright then the IRfags on tumblr lost it. They also happen to be the IRfags from deathberry until the site was closed down or whatever.
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>>151802450
Ichigo's fires off his bullshit black beam.
Wide shot.
Next chapter Aizen is on the floor.

I remember laughing so fucking much when that came out
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>>151802540
Thats not even how SJ editing works.
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>>151802609
>on tumblr
Why exactly do you care about what happens on tumblr?
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>>151802638
Wew lad
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>>151802576
Calling Bleach shit gets you called:
>A IchiRukifag
>A Narutofag
>A Tumblrfag

The buzzwords will only grow.
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>>151802672
I don't but the person that posted the diaper thing said it was from there. This was a few threads ago though.
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>>151802371
I like both.

Renji/Rukia, Roy/Riza, Gin/Rangiku, Sanosuke/Megumi, Hiruma/Mamori, Kyo/Tohru, Shikamaru/Temari, Setsuna/Marina, Harry/Kihel, Erwin/Levi/Hanji, Orga/Merrybit.

Aside from the last one, I like to think my shipping records so far has been bretty good.
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>>151802694
Nah, but it's already 2017. How long are you people going to keep complaining over the same things?
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>>151802609
>IRfags on tumblr
You focus on mizulily because she's an easy target, but you can't refute people like sorisanam who made good points.
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>>151802818
What good points?
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>>151802706
http://mizulily.tumblr.com/tagged/Kurosaki-Ichigo-diaper-fetish-discourse
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>It's another "IchiHimefags instigates a fight and blame IchiRukifags for it " thread.
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>>151802818
>you can't refute people like sorisanam who made good points.

Like about the manga in general or pairings? If its about the manga then I agree that there were things that went wrong and what-not, if it's about pairings then I feel like every argument IR fans have come up with have been debunked in the manga by Kubo himself.
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>>151789411
What went wrong?

That final ship that everyone with common sense saw coming since the very got damn beginning.
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>>151802929

An IRfag started to talk about pairings though.
>>151790360
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>>151802818
>sorisanam
>makes good points

pick one.
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>>151803130
>Ichigo-Rukia is the most important relationship in Bleach
There's one.
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>>151803130
I honestly have not come across one Ichihime fan that thought Orihime would be on the final cover. Most thought it would be either Ichigo or Kazui.

I thought the final cover would either be
-Ichigo alone
-Kazui alone
-Ichigo and Rukia since they started the whole adventure
-Ichigo and Rukia along with Kazui and Ichika aka the old and new death & strawberry

We thought we would get a doodle in the final volume, but we got it in the novel instead.
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>>151803220
I would've agreed back in the SS arc, but after that arc Kubo is pretty much done with it. It's practically non-existent in the last two arcs.

It'll always be important though since she gave him the power to protect, but I don't think it's the most important.
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>>151802411
>that diaper fanfic

It still haunts my dreams.
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>>151803220

I don't understand why IRfags just can't let it go.
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>>151803351
>Urahara leaving it to Kurosaki and Kuchiki despite Rukia being much weaker than Ichigo
>Aizen monologuing about courage as a concluding summary of the series, cut to Ichigo and Rukia
It's toned down, but not nonexistent, and still highlighted both in and out of the story. Even in Kubo's postscript, he focuses on people who like the characters, Ichigo or Rukia, will cry like he did. Compare this with how much emphasis he (not) put on Ichigo and Orihime's connection.
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>>151789411
>Rukiafags have fallen this low.

It's delicious
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>>151803572
Believe it or not I'm not even an IRfag. I just think IH is poorly developed shit (that used to be cute but not anymore).
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>>151790184

>Kubo apparently planned on cancelling the anime 5 years earlier due to declining health but only kept going after reading a letter from a dead fan.
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>>151803607
Anon, that's cool n' all.
But you lost.
IR didn't happen.
What are you trying to prove?
We know you don't like the ending, so what?
Are you contributing anything of substance here, or are you just whining about how your ship would have been so much better?
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>>151803705
He said he got sick in 2010. That's around the end of Deicide, which would've been a decent point to stop.
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>>151803675
every single aspect of bleach is developed poorly.
it's evidenced by the fact that the only discussions about it after it finished is nothing but shipper shit
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>>151803607
I felt the Urahara scene was bait since Rukia did nothing in the final fight, she didn't even acknowledge him before it-she ran straight to Orihime.

As for the comment, I thought he mentioned them only was because it's Rukia's wedding and Ichigo basically asked Orihime out where it's pretty much a given that hes going to confess his feelings. We don't get any insight on how Orihime feelings, or even Renji's.
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>>151803764
He did mention his health a few times in different volumes.
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>karin and yuzu thinking orihime acts like a mother and are happy to have her around the house
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>>151791113
>That would have killed IchigoxRukia dead years ago.
Is autism contagious? Is this the case with IRfags? They're spreading it all around in their little echo chambers. Ichigo and Rukia did not interact in the manga for YEARS. Almost 4 years between them having scenes together. Ichigo does not even think about her after the Fullbring arc. It was so dead and over. You're just too stupid to see reality.
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>>151803722
I don't even ship IR. If it were up to me, the canon ones would be Renji/Rukia (with a more explained transition from friends to lovers) and Uryuu/Orihime.

I'm just pointing out that part of the backlash from IRfags is due to Kubo not killing IR properly.
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>>151802298
Not gonna lie. This is some cute shit.
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>>151804059
>Ichigo and Rukia did not interact in the manga for YEARS.
If you're talking about the war then it was a few days at most that those two didn't interact. In real life, it was about 4 years though, maybe even a bit more.

Anyways, IR was killed back during the SS arc when Ichigo threw Rukia to Renji.
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>>151803976
Pfft. Just blatant Hime shilling.
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>>151802818
>sorisanam who made good points
Stop reading shitposts about shipping and calling them good. That's the first failure of IRs.
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>>151804066
>Uryuu/Orihime.
I don't understand this one. I get it in the beginning, but after that? Even in the SS arc, Uryu realizes how much she likes Ichigo.
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I find that nips are way more critical on the internet than anyone else. Like if you go to a japanese youtube channel or video and see the amount of dislikes a video gets, even the most benign shit is way more than a western one would get.
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>>151804144
I don't think so. I find that Masaki and Orihime are very much alike in personality.
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>>151791652
This desu.

Jpland seems to have avoided the millenial disease and their everything new is the best thing ever for 5 mins till something new comes along cancer.
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>>151804066
>I don't even ship IR.
Sure.

>Uryuu/Orihime
You don't want IH, but you want UH. It is 100% unrequited, has less development than IH and even Uryuu acts like he has no shot and Orihime being with Ichigo is a foregone conclusion.
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I still don't understand why people were/are so upset over the endgame pairings. It was so obvious that IH and RR would happen. Shounen pairings are always the most obvious.
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>>151803810
Renji's feeling about Rukia has been talked about by Kubo in a few interview/event though. I recall at least once with Ichigo's VA and once with Renji's. For Orihime, the only one I remember is not by Kubo but his editor.

It might have been a byproduct of Orihime's VA not at the same level of popularity as Ichigo, Renji and Rukia's. So even the seiyuu of Hisagi gets invited to off-air stuff more than her.
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>>151804272
Because 90% of jewtube is fucking awful and derserves to be downvoted, but no muh western sensibilities
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Rukiafags still mad
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>>151804496
>Renji's feeling about Rukia has been talked about by Kubo in a few interview/event though.
I know, but I meant how his feelings weren't talked about in the novel. Not that they needed to be since I feel the manga made it pretty obvious how he feels towards Rukia. Instead this time, we got a scene where it's revealed that Rukia didn't take his last name in the Gotei 13 because she felt she would faint from being called Mrs. Abarai from being so flustered and overwhelmed.

The same with Orihime's feelings not getting any focus in the novel-we already know how she's feels so now it was Ichigo's turn.
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>>151789411
The ending was a complete train wreck. There wasn't even a final battle in a normal sense. I mean Ichigo didn't even use his ugly new bankai and Bach didn't have a final form or any battle form for that matter. The whole plotline about Ichigo power up led to fucking nowhere because he didn't use it in the end. There was a bullshit arrow that Kubo pulled right out of his ass to help Ichigo kill Bach and that's it. Also it was beyond retarded because Bach had an opportunity to kill Ichigo before but didn't finish him off for no fucking reason and even left an open portal also for no fucking reason. I just... That was the most retarded and shameless plot convenience I've ever seen.
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>>151791959
Tatsuki was all in for Orihime and Ichigo though
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>>151804739
>Bach had an opportunity to kill Ichigo before but didn't finish him off for no fucking reason
He thought that vision of Ichigo killing him was a dream or something like that.
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>>151804417
Ah but as you said yourself, Uryuu knew he has no shot. That's killing it properly.

I really didn't ship IR. This kind of thinking ("you don't agree with me, you must be one of THEM!") is stupid and comes from both sides, making the ship war even worse when it happened, and driving the potentially crazy ones into madness.
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>>151804772
It's still not a reason to let his enemy live and even to left him a fucking convenient portal.
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>>151804772
Yhwach thinking it was that instead of his Almighty showing him is all kinds of bullshit.
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>>151791959
>>151804753
>post-timeskip Tatsuki gets a hot new hairstyle, grows a bit too
>shows up very little
Kubo why?
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>>151804810
I'm agreeing with you anon. It was really stupid.
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>>151804680
When it comes to discussion about what's in and not in the novel, I think we should wait until everything's translated. No one mentioned Hitsugaya or Ganju before but now we know they appear.
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>>151804855
Someone already read the novel and made a list of all the Renruki content. There's no focus on Renji's feelings. We do get a nervous/flustered Rukia a few times though which was cute.
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>>151804753
>post-novel, Orihime calls Tatsuki in panic
>Tatsuki is just fucking tired because she's been telling her to jump him since 5 years ago
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>>151804837
>Liking the mullet.
Shit taste detected.
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>>151804753

I think this should have been the biggest red flag in retrospect. So many people in the series tried to push Ichigo and Orihime together: Tatsuki, Yoruichi, Rangiku, even Chad. Nobody was doing the same for Ichigo and Rukia or Uryuu and Orihime or any other pairing. Did people really think all that would be for nothing?
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>>151789989
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_campaigning
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>>151804785
>Ah but as you said yourself, Uryuu knew he has no shot. That's killing it properly.
They had no shot, but, you still think they should happen? You make no sense, anon.

You don't ship IR, but won't shut up about them. There's no reason to "kill" them, they were never a thing. Kill what? Their friendship and platonic relationship that never moved beyond that? Their feelings were never romantic. Using your same assbackwards logic, then Kubo never killed IH or Ichigo/Nel or Ichigo/Riruka or Ichigo/Grimmjow, etc.
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>>151804923
There's a part about Renji getting nervous during the lunch with Byakuya. But we don't know how it's elaborated. As comparison, in chapter 1 we get Kira's feelings on being zombie elaborated, in chapter 2 there's Lisa's pride in seeing how far Little Nanao has come. Those aren't mentioned by bloggers either.
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>Rukia didn't take Renji's last name in the Gotei because she felt she would faint from being called "Mrs. Abarai"
>Rukia was trembling during the vows
>Rukia was all flustered announcing their marriage ceremony and couldn't even look at the shinigami around the table
>Rukia was stumbling over words when announcing the engagement to Orihime

When Rukia goes dere, she goes full on dere.
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>>151804753
This is good advice. Could have saved them both 5 years of pining and thinking they were in an unrequited love.

Tatsuki was always a gem. I love that chapter about her and Ichigo's friendship as kids. Wish there was more of her in Bleach.
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>>151805089
That's true. It does seem best to wait for translations.
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>>151789411
It went passed Aizen being sealed, that's what went wrong.
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>>151805182
>Wish there was more of her in Bleach.
Supposedly, she was too much like Rukia or something.
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>>151805085
There has always been a difference between thinking something will happen and wanting something to happen. Wanting something to happen does not need an objective reason.

If you keep refusing to understand why IR has a significant following beyond "they're just stupid and crazy" I'm afraid this will go nowhere. It's always easier to think of different people as subhuman rather than try to understand each other.
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Serious question, but why doesn't Rukia have a good figure? Back when Bleach was super popular, it would've sold like crazy. Even now, I think it would sell quite well. Especially if some big company were to do it.
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What was the stupidest thing Yhwach did?
>not killing Ichigo before his friends come
>opening a portal
>giving Uryuu the schrift
>Auswahlening Gerard
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>>151805182
>Tatsuki was always a gem. I love that chapter about her and Ichigo's friendship as kids
Not only did she became more and more irrelevant as the manga progressed, she knew it too.
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>>151805452
>Kubo made Yhwach so powerful that he had to shorten his intellect for him to lose.
Man, I hate that.
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>>151799761
>kenpachi
Byakuya and toshito are the most popular ones, but in japan kenpachi is not even close to them, he is just popular in the west if anything
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>>151805637
>but in japan kenpachi is not even close to them

Wrong. In the 13 blades poll which was the last popularity poll, he came in fifth.
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>>151805524
I will never forgive Kubo for making Ichigo and Tatsuki fight onscreen, but the resolution is offscreen.

Then again, Kubo is particularly bad at that. A most blatant example is in chapter 180 when Renji and Byakuya was about to have a serious talk, it's interrupted with comedic timing by Ichigo.
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>>151806211
I will never forgive Kubo for not showing Orihime and Tatsuki reunite after the HM arc. Tatsuki probably cried.
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>>151806211
>Threw a desk out the school window
>Punched another student's head through the school window
Why wasn't this girl kicked out and committed somewhere?
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>>151789411
There are IRfags even in Japan too ya know...
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>>151802323
>i don't know a single game from japan with mechs that runs or looks as good as titanfall
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>>151806440
It's a shitty school.

That's why their 3rd highest scored graduate can't even get financial assistance to pursue higher education.
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>>151806440
The desk stuff was erased by the men in black discount flash light, and i think no one burned her about the Ichigo deal
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>>151806574
>That's why their 3rd highest scored graduate can't even get financial assistance to pursue higher education.
Don't remind me.
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>>151806574
Is Karakura Town middle or low class?
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>>151806654
Probably middle since Uryu and his family live there. They live in that huge mansion.
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>>151792516
True that brother. Good portion of the blood war arc was good but near the end, it was as if kubo didn't give a single fuck and rushed the damn ending
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>>151801846
Incest porn when?
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>>151795040
Yes.
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>>151806574
>That's why their 3rd highest scored graduate can't even get financial assistance to pursue higher education.
That's totally normal in Japan. Japan is shit. Don't forget this girl was living by herself since she was 10 or so.
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>>151806752
>That's totally normal in Japan.
Is a scholarship that hard to get?
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>>151789411
Just the rushed one chapter ending. It was a good war arc regardless.
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>>151789411
TOO
DAMM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
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>>151806790
Scholarships don't happen unless you're a top scorer who comes from a very well connected family.
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>>151806804
Oh wow. Harsh.
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>>151806799
>Just the rushed one chapter ending. It was a good war arc regardless.
The final fight was bad.
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>>151806804
So only Uryuu had a change to get a schoolarship, and even then, his dad has enough money to pay for it anyway, i kinda respect Ichigo for having a family and finish college at the same time
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>>151806947
>i kinda respect Ichigo for having a family and finish college at the same time

Ichika is seven at most and Kazui looks younger than her so they probably had him when Ichigo was almost finished.
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>>151806752
Technicallly her guardian is the aunt that have her money. It's never really explained why she's not living with them (aside from the external reason being families are a burden to write for teenage fictional characters).
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>>151807099
*technically her guardian is the aunt that gave her money
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>>151807099
Her aunt is related to one of her awful parents so she could be awful herself. She literally cuts Orihime off once she graduates HS which is a pretty shitty thing to do. Plus it was never stated that Orihime would visit her or vice-versa in the manga or even in the novels. She probably supported her out of duty, not love.
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>>151806716
Only if it's with Kukaku.
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>>151800323
-"X called for help"
-No gyms
-"X called for help"
-Poor framerate
-"X called for help"
-Too many cut-scenes.
-It's different so it sucks.

Moon has 3.5 stars, by the way. And only 100 less reviews. Odd. Maybe Moon truly is better.
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>>151807171
Yea that's the likely explanation, it's just not explicit. Anyway they can fool the social services by pretending they visit her/she visits them when checked by the government, if Japan has such a system. I don't know if there's even a system.
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>>151806752
Reminder that in Japan it's totally normal for 6 year olds to walk to school while navigating complicated train routes.
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>>151801611
>for Bleach
>not for Kubo
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>>151791620
>THE DADS COME JOIN THE FIGHT!!!

lel
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>>151807366
>Reminder that in Japan it's totally normal for 6 year olds to walk to school while navigating complicated train routes.

I do find this odd, but it's the norm over there. I wouldn't let my child do it though, I'm too much of a worrywart.
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>>151789411
IchiRuki autism. Reminder, shippers are cancer.
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As far as I remember Ichigo had no romantic feelings for Rukia, no? They were tight but they were purely just friends.

Is everyone seeing romance where they're not supposed to? Just because a boy and a girl are close doesnt mean they have to be married?
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>>151789989
15 is pretty bad desu.

I mean it's so easy to level up that I overshot 99 by over 3 MILLION experience when saving up.

Quick time events are core combat and very small reaction windows.

The AI is either full retarded or wants your dick right now, with everything it can spawn at that location.

The loading times and 'soft loading times'-where characters are locked in animations like getting out of the car are inexcusable (way worse than 12's constant sheathing/unsheating of weapons)

The last several chapters are LITERALLY on rails. As in your ride a train and get off for minimal amounts of time.

They planned from the beginning to release something like 7 or 9 PAID DLCs to 'fix' the story plot holes.

>Westerners eat it up anyways
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>>151807366
It explains why Ichigo and Orihime's so calm about Kazui walking around town alone even though he's probably 5 year old (they at least waited until Ichigo finished college didn't they?).
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>>151807486
On the one hand it shows how safe it is in Japan, on the other hand it's also depressing.
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>>151801099
>I don't remember him literally going into berserk mode with her sole safety on his mind.

He did against Byakuya. He was about to die and desperate to keep fighting to save Rukia and his Hollow came out. So yeah, practically the same thing happened.
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>>151807392
If Kubo ever gets another manga a lot of fags will complain about the most minimal detail , will say that Bleach was better, and yet the threads will reach bump limit one after another, i can see it already
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>>151806947
Ishidas are rich but I doubt they're well connected. They don't care about real world politics, just the Quincy.
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>>151807633
Kazui's also a quick little bugger who's already unlocked one of his superhuman aspects, so there's that.
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>>151807575
It's just that kubo wrote a best bro relationship, and anons don't know your best bro can be female.
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>>151807392
I... I want another manga by Kubo.

Preferably with the fashion industry as setting.
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>>151807665
I was re-reading Bleach and I found both situations different, but I understand what you're saying. To me, the Lust chapters felt a lot darker and Ichigo just seems a lot more desperate when rescuing Orihime-the tiniest things done to her seem to set him completely off.
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>>151807633
Ichigo's hollow was irrational and bloodthirsty. His one and only rational thought was keeping Orihime safe.

That means, the only shred of humanity Ichigo has ever shown in hollow form was towards Orihime. HM was lowkey (maybe not even that) Kubo doing IH.
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>>151807575
There are people who still think Naruto and Sasuke are in love.
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>>151807625
How silly of me I forgot:

You can't take more than 1 hunt quest at a time so you'll trek back and forth to the same area multiple times like a bad MMO.

Day/Night cycle is always more a hindrance than anything

Characters stopping the car to complain about it being night time/they're tired

There's no reason to use any NPC skills except Prompto's starting one and Ignis' Elemental enhancement one.

I think level 1 mobs have higher base HP than level 99 Prompto

Spells have awesome GFX but without an item to prevent FRIENDLY FIRE you'll annihilate your own party if you ever use them. Even with said item you'll still apply burn/frost/shock debuffs to your own party.

Max HP makes potions almost useless, you'll have to use elixirs anyways.
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Everything after Soul Society. At least the Pendulum arc wasn't half bad.
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>>151808333
Bleach is alright. Fake Karakura, Fullbring and 2nd half of the Blood War were awful.

I would still read anything else Kubo puts out for reasons I can't explain.
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>>151808333
The two flashback arcs are fine. Probably because they're short, simple and closed-ended.
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>kubo didn't draw kazui and ichika in rooster outfits for a new years doodle

why did he waste such a good chance?
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>>151808421
Fake Kakakura will always be the worst of the bunch.
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>>151808053

We want the Skyrim audience!
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>>151808508
He didn't post anything after the dead kid comic even though he can easily post anything there.

I think it's clear he has no love left for Bleach.
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>>151808884
>I think it's clear he has no love left for Bleach.
I wouldn't go that far since he drew some nice sketches for the first novel and he'll most likely draw sketches for the second novel plus he's drawing a one-shot for the live action film.

He does seem like he wants to hang low now. I don't see him drawing for a long time.
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>>151809091
drawing another series for a long time*
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>>151809091
Drawing for the novel and movie promo is work.
I'd believe it if he draws something from Bleach for no monetary gain.
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>>151809181
He rejected drawing the novel before he read it and loved it, so he isn't obligated to draw.
He just doesn't want to draw Ichigo and the humans anymore, their story is done maybe he'll make a sequel but with no set mc just the captains and the kids.
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>>151789989

Never underestimate how pathetic, needy and entitled neets can be and pray you never become like this.
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>>151809181
He's not going to draw anything for awhile. I think he's burnt out and wants to chill.

That's 15 years of producing a chapter every week. I couldn't do that, honestly. Constantly coming up with new material and plot twists for years and years. Especially for someone like Kubo who seems to have way too many ideas and struggles with executing them.
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>>151810305
Couldn't he draw just for fun.
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>>151810619
Think of it as chefs, do you think that when they get home they feel like cooking? Drawing for fun is one thing, but when you spend 15 years at it, you need a rest to get in the vibe again
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>>151809758
>He rejected drawing the novel before he read it and loved it
It's not said like that in the postscript summary, just that Matsubara successfully persuaded him.

And anyway people can say anything, but it's still something he gets paid for.
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>>151810305
I completely agree. I think he's done for a long time.
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>>151792516
most of the beginning was outright nice outlining, but around the exact moment they said "we'll come back to finish the job", and then came back to finish the job not 3-5 chapters later I believe...that's when things went downhill.

I still like some of the fights, but it was utter shit otherwise
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>>151792689
>Mayuri vs
Mayuri's fights are the best on the series. I unironically think that.
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So now that its all done and over with, who are Kubo's favorite characters?
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>>151811425
Mayuri.
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>>151811302
But they didn't do such. They had plenty of time to rest from that moment.

>Half the volume 58 about Zero Squad
>Half of 59 about Zero Squad while other half is about Unohana vs Kenpachi
>Volume 60 is Everything But the Rain flashback
>61 ends the Zangetsu plot twist and gets to the fighting again.

That's like 25-30 chapters of break. Not 3-5 chapters.
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>>151811425
Mayuri. Did you SEE his twitter?
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Ishida was kubo as a young man, Mayuri was kubo as an old man
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>>151811582
>>151811526
I said characters, not character. Like his top five.
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>>151811635
>>151811425
Rangiku
Orihime
Mayuri

I don't know who else.
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>>151811425
Obviously Mayuri.

Ichigo cause I read this translation of him saying that Ichigo was his hope and anytime he feels down, he draws him for inspiration. Ichigo is so perfect in every way possible. Kubo adores him.

Kenpachi. There's not other reason why this character got as much hype and airtime.

Orihime is his favorite girl, hands down. Like Ichigo, she comes off as some beacon of light and perfect waifu.

I used to think Urahara, but not anymore. Kubo would have dedicated something to his send off, but he didn't seem to care after a certain point.
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>>151803130
Shipping butthurt is always so amusing
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>>151811692
Not Orihime, Yoruichi.
And in the novel postscript he mentions Ichigo and Rukia.

But only his love for Mayuri is acted upon, the others are just said.
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Did Ichigo save himself for Orihime or not?
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>>151792064
The bleach one-shot(before it became a series) was literally shipping Ichigo and Orihime, with Rukia just as their wingman.
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>>151811955
>Not Orihime
Nah, he definitely Orihime. That much is obvious.

I'd say

-Mayuri
-Ichigo
-Orihime
-Rangiku
-Rukia
-Kenpachi
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>>151811955
>in the novel postscript he mentions Ichigo and Rukia.
Yea because it's Rukias wedding and Ichigo asks Orihime out in the end where it's basically confirmed to us reader that hes going to confess.
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>>151811956
>Did Ichigo save himself for Orihime or not?
Honestly? Yes, 100%.
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>>151811955
It's Orihime. I think he really likes Rukia as well though.

But, if you strictly look at the content and not merch or fanservicy things, Orihime got more focus throughout the entirety of Bleach than Rukia did.
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>>151812154
I think part of Orihime's exposure comes from Kubo really wanting to push that Tanabata motif. I don't know how much of it was from that and how much of it was from his own preference.
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>>151812072
Hold your horses IHfag. The context is which characters Kubo likes. And that one is the latest Kubo quote on characters he like.

The Yoruichi one came from here: http://manga.about.com/od/mangaartistinterviews/a/TiteKubo_2.htm
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>>151812202
>Tanabata motif
Literally what?

I think he gave her so much focus because he wanted to. He's knows she's not that popular, but didn't care.
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>>151812260
Yea, I know. He mentioned Yoruichi and Rangiku during an interview and Rangiku and Origime another time-it had to do with one of the films.
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>>151812107
It's Ichigo. Of course he did.

Dumb question. I shouldn't have asked.
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>>151812154
Orihime appeared in more chapters =/= Orihime got more focus

If you want to argue Orihime got more focus, give me the numbers.
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>>151812328
>Orihime got more focus, give me the numbers.
Just go through the manga anon. She had a good amount of panel time in the beginning, but then it increased more and more. In the final arc, she's one of the characters that gets the most paneltime.
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>>151812202
>Tanabata motif
This doesn't exist within the manga and is IHfag fanfiction. I say this as an IHfag.
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>>151812407
That's subjective and can't be relied on.
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>>151812275
>He's knows she's not that popular, but didn't care.
She made it into every top 10 poll (even the final one) except one.
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>>151812547
Well, here's Kubo stating Inoue as one of his favorites back in 2011. He had to pick between Rukia, Inoue, Rangiku, Lisa, or Hiyoru
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Shit opinion but I'll post it anyway.

Aizen should've had more impact on the story.

Admittedly the entire series shows every arc where the main character has some unique quality while not yet reaching his true potential and doing a bunch of new shit that no one else but him is "capable" of only to fuck it up, then unfuck it, then fuck it up again because the new bad guy is "amazingly powerful". Nobody likes this because all it does is highlight one guy being given every chance to be the hero; at the same time everyone knows Ichigo ain't shit and all the guys that kicked his ass only lose to even more bullshit or cool shit depending on what's being thrown at us.

This is where Aizen comes in because Aizen was too intelligent and too conniving to get put down and ignored. In fact the last time we hear from him before the quincy mess was him talking about the soul king, but that story arc was never expanded obtain nor was it really resolved. The story could've been 80% about Aizen trying to prove why the soul king isn't necessary and helping the soul society stop quincies from ever being a real threat; and this would've been many times better because we actually see someone who's actually good at fighting opponents actually fight, and give us a reason why to fight beyond "muh friends".

This isn't even getting into "Incarnation of the 4th Reich" because I thought his power was beyond stupid for the series and he went out like a bitch,
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>>151789989
Angry NEETS. Just look at what happened with Kokoro Connect
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>>151812612
To add on. I think that Ishida and Orihime were the only popular human characters in Bleach.

Poor Chad. He was always there.
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>>151812620
About the focus anon, not about her being a favorite.
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>>151812655
I go through the manga every so often and I do think she gets a lot of focus. She got a good amount of focus in the beginning, during the SS arc, during the HM arc, she gets a good amount during the FB arc, and even in the last arc where she's the only one by Ichigo's side during the second to last battle.
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If anyone is curious, Kubo states Yoruichi and Rangiku as his two favorite females in 2008 and then Rangiku and Orihime in 2011. Those are the only times he talks about his favorite female characters.
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What happened to "/a/ sings ASTERISK"?
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>>151812624
Aizen should have had a bigger impact in the story? Agreed
Giving him more panel time?
This is thin ice, because with the amount of time we got he was still a mystery and every time he appeared he stole the show, if Kubo revealed a lot more about Aizen he would lose part of his charm, and if with such small panel time he overshadowed most characters, a lot more would make them look more bland, if you get what i mean, but yeah, Aizen's plot should have been handled a little better, Ichigo, Urahara, Juha and him are the most important characters plot wise, and even Ichigo falls behind the others, so it would have improved the story a lot
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>>151812885
>Urahara
Huh?
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>>151812909
Just like Aizen, from the start up to FB he had a important role in the story, even if he wasn't on screen, and it was just in the last arc we had Urahara more often on screen, just at the same time he was losing importante
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>>151812885
yeah you right. I just don't like how characters that actually contribute to the show, who move and talk with with a certain purpose don't get developed. It's kind of similar to Ichigo's inner hollow where it tried to teach how how to fight but Ichigo wouldn't have it. His inner hollow was very entertaining but then if it was brought out more it wouldn't have been as grand
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>>151791959
agreed. Orihime was forced. and kubo even used the true best girl to help force it, It was like a slap in the face.
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>>151813448
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>>151813448
>Orihime was forced. and kubo even used the true best girl to help force it, It was like a slap in the face.
Yoruichi loves Orihime. She even offered to turn into cat if that would bring her comfort/ease. Plus she carried her Princess style.
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>>151813690
I still think Orihime is descended from succubi, given her appearance and her effortless charm. To be fair, she really is very cute.
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If you think Ichiruki shouldn't have happened you have shit taste.
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>>151800986
>"Take charge while I'm gone, Toshiro!"
Those weren't his last words.
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>>151789989
>XV is the best FF since IX
>SM is the best pokemon since BW

Idiotic nips just can't accept trying something new with stale franchises.
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>>151814153
Final Fantasy X and Final Fantas XIII are decent though. You are just cutting them out to make an argument.
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>>151814102
While nice they finally bring it up,but I've always preferred Isshin's last words as captain, however innocuous, be for his Vice-captain as opposed to the third seat.
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>>151813949
She's a huge cutie.
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>>151814326
Maybe that's his last words to Toushirou rather than last words ever?
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>kaien marries a beautiful and kind woman
>isshin marries a beautiful and kind woman
>ichigo marries a beautiful and kind woman

P O T T E R Y
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>>151814409
Maybe... rereading it also seems to suggest he said it to him after the reunion at some point, whenever that was...
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>>151814416
Renji married a beautiful and kind woman.
Byakuya married a beautiful woman, we don't know how kind she was but when alive, her actions were abandoning a baby, abandoning her husband to look for that baby, and imposing on her husband to take care of the baby she failed to find.

Dammit, Hisana.
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part 1
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>>151814656
part 2

idk whats going on, but it looks cute
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Kyouraku managed to get Yoruichi to teach and Lisa as captain. Why can't he do that with Love, Urahara and Isshin?
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Translation of part 5 is out.
http://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/post/155373313442/we-do-knot-always-love-you-part-5-full

>that bit about Ukitake and his children's book
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>>151791652
>westerners are lemmings
>Japan's biggest video game market is reskinned gatcha games.
Both markets are full of retards. Nips like stupid vapid shit that you can play on the train. Westerners like stupid vapid shit you can play on a flat screen at home.
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>>151815473
why did the kindest soul in SS have to die ;_;

was it karma for not helping kaien at first because of "muh pride"?
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>>151815621
Would you rather he become the Soul King?
That's sadder imo.
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>>151789989
It's the backlash of marketing, you barely see any negative votes in EU/NA because only people interested in product go there to rate it. Not like those scores mean much, the number of sales is also higher in JP.
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>>151792172
>>151793215


she was white. JK sketched the characters and CHOSE emma watson. but now backtracks because she wants HP translated to ebonics. deal with it tumblrfag
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>>151801419
the real IR fags left. now its just himefags pretending. such cancer.
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>>151790237
Japanese don't do user reviews outside of blogging so Amazon is only thing they have
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>>151815473
Right in the kokoro.
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>>151818248
such a waste of a great character
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>>151818248
>>151818724
>>151815473


>one of yamas 2 transcendent pupils
>dual zan
>reiatsu monster
>rukias captain


LOL never show him truly fight and what bankai? lol have more toshitro fights lololol

^
this is why you got cancelled Kubo
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>>151815473
Before this I didn't realize how much I like him ;_;
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>>151818874
you should see him on Bleach brave souls. hes a fucking monster. I always wanted to know what his bankai was. hyped to fuck and then not delivered - bleach in a nutshell...
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>>151818978
I have him, still 5 stars though. I'm taking a break from Yamajii raids and decide to evolve TT Rukia first.
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>>151819384
im jealous. I wish theyd given him a better special move rather than that kido urahara used. cant complain though i rolled rukia/sode and nozomi recently
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>>151789989
>nips aren't mindless drones that like whatever advertisers and "reviewers" tell them to like
really fires up those neurons
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>>151819608

>otaku are mindless drones in tune with the rest of the jap culture
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>>151817930
What does this post even mean?
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>>151819948
Some people are delusional enough to think that all those "Ichiruki fans" that are making posts like this >>151803130 are false flaggers.
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>>151789411
he doesn't know how to write and he started not caring about his drawings mid way through the manga.

in my opinion bleach would be awesome if Kubo drawn it and gave concepts but somebody else wrote it.
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Would Bleach have been better if Ryogo Narita was brought in to compose the Quincy arc?
Would Kubo agree to it?
Would Narita?
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>>151820517
the question is why didn't the editor forced this?
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>>151815119
Take note of the gender of people in question. Kyoraku always had more interest in women, he openly admited to male members of his division he doesn't care about them, and if it weren't for Nanao he'd find a way to fulfill his dream of being the captain of an all-girls division.
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IR fags are the worst fanbase I've seen
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>>151792427
>This was not his planned ending and he'll never tell anyone the truth

Am I the only one who feels that story about the sick boy who told kubo to "End Bleach how you want to" was just some bullshit lie so he could justify this garbage ending? And he knows his fans are gullible enough to accept a sob story.

Kubo never seemed like a traditional manga artist, compared to authors like Kishi or oda who seemed really into their work. Kubo always felt -distant- from his work.

The guy seems like a rockstar more than artist, who just fell into this profession cause he could draw well.

I don't think he ever cared about Bleach as more than a paycheck.
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>>151820975
this, I mean look at the guy. I know the Smug-Kubo thing is a meme but he really seems like a rockstar musician and not a comic artist.

He even dresses better than most Mangaka I know, he's probably just a rich partybro.
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>>151820812
What about Hiyori then?
And has there been any news/information on Mashiro's status?
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>>151789528
>>Do you think that fans will be pleased to finish abortion and make a sequel smell
Kek.
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>>151821822
Unclear. Only said Kensei sent her to the academy but not if she survived. Probably does, though. In any cass since novel 2 is about someone in her division it's likely she would appear.
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Why didn't Gotei 13 invade Hueco Mundo right away after Aizen fled?
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>>151822383
They were still recovering from Ichigo and his friends invasion, in fighting between some and of course the mess Aizen did(such as killing of central 46).

Then of course, there was training and strengthening, as apparently, Vasto Lorde are "stronger" than a captain...
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>>151800290
>Everyone else was trash.
>Good:
Pernida
Askin
Bazz-B
Quilge
Mask De Masculine
Giselle

>Passable:
Bambietta
Ass Knot
Liltotto
Gerard
Lille
Royd arguably

>Trash:
Haschwalth
Cang Du
BG9
Pepe
Accutrone
Driscoll
Meninas
Berenice
Jerome
Nanana
Weizol
Gremmy
Loyd
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>>151822787
Espada:

>Good:
Baraggan
Aaroniero
Szayel
Ulquiorra
Grimmjow
Nnoitra

>Passable:
Starrk
Harribel

>Trash:
Zommari
Yammy
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>>151807259
The call for help mechanic was annoying as fuck but I enjoyed the cutscenes. Lillie a cute.
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>>151822888
Barragan is god tier
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>>151822888
>Grimmshit
>good
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>>151823827
In all honesty I wanted to split the top tier like so:

Baraggan
Aaroniero
Szayel
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Ulquiorra
Grimmjow
Nnoitra

With the latter three in "passable" or "passable+"
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>>151823904
Nnoitra is definitely top tier. He was the most interesting character out of the Espada. Grimmjow is just one-dimensional edgy fujobait. Agree on Ukulele though. He's meh, but at least Kubo tried to give him some depth.
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>>151822888
That shit taste tho'
>>151824200
How's Nnoitra even remotely interesting? He was a fucking loser who couldn't cope with the fact that a womyn was stronger than him - and to beat her he needed Szayel's trickery anyway.

Best part? The Espada n.3 was still a woman, and in his fight with Kenpachi he kept on sperging on how he was the strokest - and yet literally everyone was stronger than him. A pitiful character, no wonder Nelliel saw him as a sperging mindless insect.
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>>151824391
Not just a woman, but a tumblrina-tier cunt, who deserved what happened to her. And new 3 is way more tolerable.
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>>151824391
>how is he remotely interesting
>proceeds to list his interesting peronality traits
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>>151824391
>missed the whole point
Nnoitra's whole reason for all his actions was to be hated and killed. His death aspect was "despair", in that he knew that victory was slim and that it wouldn't really change anything if they won.

And if wasn't really clear, he only had beef with Nel, which may or may not have been sexual tension. This happened after she saved him when he nearly died during one of their hollow hunting. It's also worth noting that Nel said something like "I just saved you cause aizen needs as much soldiers" or "I just did it on a whim", which basically made him think that Nel was making fun of him.
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>>151822787
>God tier: Candice
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>>151822383
What benefit is there to taking over that endless plain of sand? that and there should be more vasto lorde somewhere.
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I want to get stabbed by Rukia.
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>>151789411
A bad rating for a bad series, whats the problem?
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>>151824704
There was a huge castle in the middle and all the strong people including Aizen were there.
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>>151824608
Yeah I remember that, basically, Nnoitra was pretty much on a suicidal mission whenever he was ordered to look for strong Arrancars but Nel kept tagging along and likely prevented his death several times. He also kept on asking why does she keep sticking around him and she kept saying it was for their role to keep each other safe for the eventual war, which of course goes against what Nnoitra wanted. Then presumably later on, after Nel was out, Nnoitra just got strong enough that none of the hollows were a problem and he got promoted to 5.

A lot of this could have been prevented if Nel just straight out said that she was concerned for him personally rather than obligation.
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>>151825011
Thinking about it, I guess that's why he got the "strongest" hierro of the espada. From all the fights he got into without much concern for his health, his body ended up adapting and ironically made him one of the hardest to kill.
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>>151824540
>tumblrina-tier cunt
???
>>151824601
Being a cheating loser is interesting? Ok.
>>151824608
There are plenty of characters in Bleach that did "detestable" things, and yet hey had their charm and usefulness. Think of Gin, Mayuri, Szayel.
Nnoitra just comes out as a retard that babbles about, edgy rethoric about muh fight, muh masculinity and muh stronger than everyone else.

They only cool thing about him was Santa Teresa's design, that was honestly nice. The spoon dress and the retarded unreleased zanpakutou were ridiculous though.
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>>151822888
Barragan was objectively the best Espada in terms of design, powers, motivation, and backstory.
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>>151825183
You really think Ulquiorra, Harribel, Barragan and Starrk had a weaker hierro than Nnoira?

Wew
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>>151825964
>thing is canon
>WOW YOU REALLY THINK THING IS CANON LOLOLOLOL

Nnoitra had the strongest Hierro of the Espada, end of story.
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>>151825538
He had a six pointed star medalion with an eye in the middle.
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>>151826553
Because he said so? Like he said he was the strongest? :^)
>inb4 muh databook
I really hope you're not taking those things seriously. They're compiled by editors, not Kubo.

For example, take a look at the stats graphs of the Gotei 13 on the 1st one, and you'll see what I mean.
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>>151828094
>For example, take a look at the stats graphs of the Gotei 13 on the 1st one, and you'll see what I mean.
That one is actually surprisingly accurate, even having Unohana's Kenpachi-tier combat prowess. Zaraki is really the only misnomer, because he hadn't reached his true potential yet.

Unless you're willing to present evidence that another Espada having superior Hierro than Nnoitra (which there isn't) then it's not worth challenging.
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>>151804753
Tatsuki was the best choice for Ichigo, but I guess nips like the bubbly type too much
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>>151828172
>accurate
>Gin on the same level as Hitsugaya
>Aizen on a "normal" scale even though he could solo the entire Gotei
Sure.

Besides, what is it exactly that makes you so sure that Nnoitra's is the best hierro? Because a completely spent Ichigo couldn't hurt him? Because an un-serious, eyepatch sealed Kenpachi slashed and didn't damage?

He had a strong one, sure, but by virtue of Ulquiorra having the Segunda Etapa, I'd wager HE has the strongest. Mind you, I despise Ulq, so it's not fanboysm believe me.
Just take into account what Aizen said: a fight between spiritual beings is a fight of reiatsu.
SE Ulquiorra had such a potent and thick reiatsu that captain-level fighters felt as if they were overwhelmed by it; nothing much happened when Nnoitra released on the other hand, and weaker people such as Orihime barely reacted to it.
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>>151828777
>Gin on the same level as Hitsugaya
In terms of potential, they were about equal. Gin's power is very specialized whereas Hitsugaya is one incredibly useful elemental power. I don't see the problem.

>Aizen on a "normal" scale even though he could solo the entire Gotei
If I remember correctly he was on the same tier as Yamamoto in terms of power, and that was before the Hougyoku elevated his powerlevel.

>by virtue of Ulquiorra having the Segunda Etapa, I'd wager HE has the strongest
Unlikely, Ulquiorra didn't specialize in defense because his HSR was his most powerful attribute. However if you wish to reference some feats that we may place Ulq's Hierro to Nnoitra's, I'll accept your argument.
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>>151789989
Meanwhile, in America.
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>>151791024
This. The only people who liked that ending were shippers, because the only thing they care about is their pairing. If you cared about literally anything else, you had to be disappointed with that shitstain of an ending.
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>>151829308
I agree that a lot went wrong, but the pairings weren't one of them.
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>>151829344
Is this still on hiatus?
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>>151829344
Well it only took 90 seconds for that to come back to pairings I see. Thanks shippers.
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>>151829400
The previous anon stated that only shippers liked the ending, but I liked the pairings yet saw all the flaws. I just don't get why people are acting like Bleach went downhill recently, it's been going downhill for years.
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>>151829364
Yes.
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>>151829599
There's no mystery there anon: you're not a shipper, you're someone who just likes a pairing. Simply liking a pairing doesn't make you a shipper. A shipper is someone who only cares about their