Olga thread

>the looks
>the body
>the personality
>dies
Fuck off Nasu

Not only that but apparently she's now stuck in a infinite death loop since it was a black hole. I'm used to best girls dying in Type-moon but She got it rough.

>>151765442
>says the saberfag

>>151765402
SHES 2 CUTE 2 DIE!!!

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>implying Olga didn't fuse the Gaia's soul

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>>151765402
It can't be helped

>>151765402
The anime made her a lot more redeeming than she really is.

She's literally just a bitchy christmas cake

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>>151765402
Because they have to kill likable characters like Sacchan and Ilya for some impact.

I know she isn't likable in the game though.

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>>151765402
>She was cute as fuck and apart from being a bit conceited, she was an understanding girl.
>She just wanted people to recognize her work and be praised for it despite being forced to take over her granddad's job after he died.

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>>151765402
The more important question is who is paying Gudao for all his work now?

>>151766153
>>151766159
She was the same in the game though.

>Why did she have to die /a/?

to make sharkteeth seem more evil, basic storytelling

>trying to dethrone rin in the TM tsundere league

she had it coming though

>>151766153
>implying Olga is a hag
I bet she isn't even 20 yet

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>>151766225
Why did she have to die like that though? The whole situation was almost comical. The writers should have just went all in and had her say "such misfortune!".

Olga is Rin for the 2010s.

>>151766295
It was done better in the game. The anime also added lines that weren't there.

>>151765402
I've never played the game but when I was watching it, I thought the anime was pretty much setting her up to be the Rin of the series since her being haughty, kind of tsundere, and a talented mage is the obvious parallel. And I thought she would help guide them and travel with them through the other singularities.

I would have much preferred having her there to complete the trio instead of just only having "starstruck for senpai" Mash.

/a/ seemed to hate the anime, but I thought it was a neat little thing, the highlight was clearly cu being cu, though, so france is gonna be harder to pull off with just the soulless saberclone and liz

>>151766246
Nah, iirc from what one anon said sometime ago

She was 11 during when she made an appearance in that Waver case files, who was in his 30s. 5th Grail war hadn't even occurred yet. So she's definitely not old but she's certainly not that young either.

I might be mixing up a lot of information though as I've never read these case files myself and might have been given misinformation

yeah she was cute. Fuck

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>>151766644
>france

Can't wait for all those CGI dragons

Her spirit is shown to be alive in the Melty Blood manga.

>>151766781
But that isn't the same universe, is it?

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>>151766781

>>151766808
I wish it was so there would be a chance for Berserker Arc in the fate universe again

>>151766854
We are more likely to get a bersercar in real-life.

>>151766854
>implying Nasu won't find a way

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Medusa is trying to seduce her Senpai with the advice of Stheno and Euryale. Does it work?

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>>151766153
Is there a better type of christmas cake?

Is the kouhai's NP really just a fucking piece of wall?

I never used her past the first hours of gameplay

>waaah why is this type moon character i like suffering

It's like complaining about Touhou characters wearing hats

>>151767016
It's Camelot's wall

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>>151765402
TO MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG

>>151766644
/a/ is shit anyways, I just saw an Olga thread and here I am.

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>>151766945
Don't bully the imouto.

>>151767016
A wall as strong as the person's will.

aka literal plot armor

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>>151766225
Why didn't he just kill a puppy then?

So wait she just dies? I mean it didn't seem to have much of an impact on the characters and they didn't even try to save her. The fuck?

>>151766988
>that guy

He draws almost exclusively cute olgas, I wonder if he's horrified the anime killed her again and made it seem worse than in the game, or happy that the anime made her cuter than in the game

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>>151767016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NEMVHIFA8

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>>151767016
At first it just looked like a bigger glowing shield. Maybe they switched it to a wall for consistent symbolism

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>>151767016
>>151767289
Or even better, against the final boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_s-_gHn9A

She dies here.

>>151765617
thats Butcher influence on nasu.
And between Lovecraft shit and Urobutcher , i would prefer Nasu to have a huge fight with Uro, never talk to him again, start reading Lovecraft till death and STOP BEING SUCH A BASTARD WITH BEST GIRLS!

>>151767714
>implying this is the first time Nasu writes like this
>what is DDD
try harded

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>>151765402
how old is she by the way?
we know that in El Melloi files she is 11, if that is set at the same times Velvet Meet Shirou a the clock tower (2008) there she should be not a cake actually.

>>151767774
Nasu didn't write the fgo script

>>151766644
What? /a/ seemed to rather like it.

>>151768007
But he did?

>>151766644
>>151768034
I hate its nature as part of the endless franchise milking spinoff cycle when I really want proper continuation of the stories and characters I grew attached to, but it was surprisingly entertaining for how shit it was, mostly thanks to lancer and how fun the very concept of the grail war and heroic spirits is.

>>151767809
She's 22 at least.

People complaining about GO should watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdv9S-VTjk

>>151766644

>France will have REGEND

It will be awesome

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>>151766988
Only if she melts when someone recognizes and deeply cares about her, especially if they don't plant bombs below her or throw her in a black hole.

I've been playing the director's death scene on repeat for the past hour now.
It is nice to see that the most important thing she ever does get done so well.

>>151767016
Its an entire castle, however if you don't know the true name of an NP it can't exert the true power.

Therefore at the moment its just a wall.

>>151766644
>shit story
>shit writing
>cookie cut characters
>Based Cu
>Evil Speedwagon
MC and main girl had no personality, Olga was pointless besides some ridiculous death scene to show how evil SW was. The only decent fight scene was Cu and Archer, other than that it was the Wall. It wasn't terrible but had no redeeming qualities outside Cu. It was bad and people who like it are wrong.

>>151768384
Are you fapping to it?

>>151768007
>>151768053

You are both right and wrong. Nasu wrote some of the chapters. I believe 1,2, and the last one.

>>151768523
Nah, just enjoying it.

>>151768460
This. It was bad but entertaining. Just like the game it's based on I guess.
It'll be competing with Apocrypha for worst Fate anime spin-off.

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>>151768321
Wow, they're aware.

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>>151768545
I believe it was

>prologue
Nasu

>Orleans
Higashide

>Septem
Sakurai

>Okeanos
Higashide (Nasu wrote Drake)

>London
Sakurai

>America
Higashide

>Camelot
Nasu

>Babylonia
Nasu

And Solomon is Nasu too I believe? Not sure there.

It wasnt great. It wasn't terrible. Random Olga death was pointless, MC is overly bland but Mash is my new type moon waifu.

Ill watch the others when they come out.

>>151768321
It's funny but it doesn't change how bad GO and this are.

>>151768316
Source?

>>151768782
what are you talking about? Nobu said it was kami anime, Nobu can't be wrong

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>>151768719
Youre telling me Nasu wrote the part that this garbage anime adapts? Kek... how the mighty have fallen.

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Olga's real purpose was to absorb Cu's rank-E luck.

I mean if it turned out getting tossed into the sun merged her with her family's magical device and she became a bitchy ghost who haunts the facility it would make sense, but no, it was just an awkwardly drawn-out death scene for an irrelevant character just to prove how evil Speedwagon is.

>>151768786
his ass

>>151768854
Fuyuki was just a prologue, it really wasn't an indication of how good the sotry gets

>>151768719
Nasu just wanted to let Sakurai and Higashide in charge of FGO, but it got so big that he had to come and write some more at the end.

At this rate, Tsukihime remake will never come out.

>>151768782
>t.EOP

>>151768460
>Shit story
>shit writing
Why?

>cookie cut characters
The main cast is only developed with the progression of the game.

>>151768854
I think Nasu wrote the plot for the game, but someone else wrote the actual script. But the prologue felt pretty terribly written and some anons in another thread were saying the writing was bad till Nasu started writing again so guess it's all shit

>>151766207
All his salary comes from oatacos buying loads of in-game cash.

>>151766811
>long Skirt
Praise Zelretch

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>>151768903
This alone was very bad senpai. It's a damn shame Nasu even had to write for something with a blatant self-insert protagonist and a bland heroine. Usually those are top-tier in pretty much everything he writes.

>>151768397

You would think an anti-fortress NP would take down the wall.

>>151768683

I didnt get it

>>151767409
Does Solomon not save her?

>>151769228
Yeah, she's asspulled back for season 2 of cashing in NEETbux.

>>151766988
>>151767270
>this artist stopped drawing Ryougi for Olgamarie
>Olgamarie got fucked over eternally
He must be mad

>>151768321

Anymore Koha-Ace character designed videos...I mean...anymore like this?

>>151769065
I mean this entire special is just "GO PLAY THE GAME" sooo.


Man, Olga's death made me sad...she didn't deserve that.

>>151768854
The OVA was rushed, surprise surprise.

>>151769309
Why are you lying to him? Fuyuki is just as bad in the game.

>>151769228
No? He didn't gave a fuck, actually. He just said something like "this was thanks to your and Mashu's resolve." Were did you read that fake shit?

>>151766811
>>151769038
>no hair intakes
This is heresy.

>>151769355
I just wrote "didn't gave" orz...

>>151769111
it's a strong wall

>>151769305
It was dumb, excessively edgy, and out of place. Not to mention the shitty main pair barely reacted to it and Roman didn't even mention it. Top tier writing boys.

>>151769111
The wall is Camelot itself, Camelot will never fall.

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>>151769282
I'm okay with that., it increases her odds of getting more art on pixiv.

>>151769305

>Still hasnt realized the entire anime industry is an advertisement for the source material

>>151769355
Didn't read it anywhere, I just assumed they wouldn't permanently kill of the mascot character of an active part of the franchise.

>>151769550
And this is how shitposting ensues.

>>151769550
Fate route did it

>>151769065
>self insert protagonist

That's the point. He is your average low key weak magus. Mashu gave a few points about how the protagonist is very human. That's important for the story

Unlike Shirou, Shiki and other TM MCs, Fujimaru is just average which is different at least.

> bland heroine

Mashu gets a lot better as the story progresses.

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>>151765402
She didn't deserve to die like that. Lev was a massive dick.

>>151769500
There is such a thing as adaptations that really go out of the way to please fans of the source, and even work well as stand alone projects.

Of course, FGO's fanbase is mostly braindead and/or has very low standarts, so this was an appropriate OVA. You can even tell by the studio they picked.

>>151769608
Those legs where made to be praised.

>>151769608
>Lev-sama has a massive dick.

fixed that for you

>>151769620
>FGO fanbase
>braindead
>when they complained about the story of te game so much that Nasu had to come back and make it right.

>>151769592
>it's OK that he has no character, because that's why the heroine who also no character is in love with him
That's not how you make a good story.

>>151769586
That's different. First off all Nasu had no way of knowing what Fate was going to turn into. Secondly there were two more routes in the game. It should be compared with arcruied going to sleep at the true end of her route.

>>151765402

>Killing her off when the boring self insert exists

Waste of a character if you ask me. Her death literally served no purpose. All I felt from her death was disappointment in the writing.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12017148

>>151769608
Well the bomb only didn't finish the job so he had to do the rest himself.

>>151769669
So this was the fixed version? How bad was the original?

>>151769669
Nasu came back to throw some lore tidbits he came up with to calm down the otaku masses, who now keep dumping money into a shitty mobile waifu game.
The very fact that someone unironically would enjoy this game in the first place should tell you a lot about them.

>>151765402

because rinfags would not tolerate the bento waifu

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>>151769655
Indeed.

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>>151769500
Which is 100% the case with FGO.

Hell, what's the last anime that made it to Sony's anual report? None. Instead of that, FGO made it, being Aniplex's highest profit.

And this FGO OVA was a fucking success because A LOT of people started playing FGO thanks to it.

Remember that Madoka is also getting a mobage trying to emulate FGO's success.

>>151769702
>>151765402
>Waste of a character
>Why did she have to die

I see this garbage so much it's like its becoming a meme

>>151769720
>no "I already played it and quit a while ago" option

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>>151769608
Olga is a good girl. She did nothing wrong.

>>151769679
>Mashu
>in love with him

How? Even Nasu says that would only come with time. She admires the guy because he is very human like and that's something that's impossible for her.

Also the fact that he is average doesn't means he has no character. Grand Order is the story of how powerful humanity can be, what's the best way to do that than have a low key magus lead the charge to save humanity?

>>151768321
This was so good. I'm glad someone translated it.

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Who was it?

>>151769840
She didn't suck Gudao's cock when he was too busy giving no shits and being alpha during the mission report.

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>>151769840
She did things wrong. She was born a talented magus without talent to be a master for some unusual reason, her soul had the aptitude her body didn't and she deeply loved a guy who eventually became a demon that especially disliked her.

>>151768972
It's pacing and writing felt like limited attempts at rewriting the game scenes. Dialogue can be summed up for characters: MC: I'm ordinary. Mash: I'll try hard and act like a kouhai. Olga: bitch and exposition. Cu: Exposition, fight phrases. Lev: Ha I'm evil look at me.
It's an anime of a japanese mobile game so it wasn't gonna be good to begin with, it just didn't help they made some rather generic design choices for the cast.
I deleted a ton of shitpost like stuff so this is what is left

>>151769811
Becoming a meme is the only way to live forever.

>>151769938
>Also the fact that he is average
>master potential
>magus
>narcolepsy
>delusions of grandeur (did he really think he could lift that boulder off her?)
he isn't even average.

>>151769938
>it's OK that he has no character, because that's why the heroine who also no character admires him

And to answer your question, by having a low key magus that has a personality and undergoes character development.

She is coming back in F/GO 1.5/2
-She is popular as fuck
-Riyo bullies her too much for her not to stay relevant
-With Roman gone we need someone else to lead

>>151769734
The prologue was never good. the first two chapters aren't that awesome either. The story only gets really good with Okeanos, when Nasu joins the writing team.

The prologue that was animated does it job, exposition and set up. Idk why people were expecting ome sort of character development from the main chars when they have the whole journey to go through yet

>>151769769

>t.EOP

Nasu actually put effort on this. The Camelot chapter was amazing and expanded on characters like the Hassans who were often ignored by the franchise and made into jobbers

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>>151769975
>those reasons
You guys can't be serious.

>>151769958
Galahad.

>>151769958
Gawain or Percival.

>>151765402
This. Such a lovely character.
After episode 1 maybe I'll buy her figur-

>She's dead
>mfw

>>151769958
Knight Jesus aka Galahad

>>151769989
It's not about appealing to your definition of "good", it was about looking cool to attract more players. And it was cool.

>>151770052
No, it's Galahad, you retard.

>>151770005
And who says he won't get that? Need I remember you that you only watched the prologue?

Mashu develops, the protagonist does too

>>151770033
That's great. Shame it's a shitty gacha-based mobile game with a self-insert protagonist, otherwise the story might've actually been something worth reading.

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>>151770029
Praise Riyo's Olga.

I'm expecting her to come back somewhere in part 2.

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>>151769958
Lancelot's son (daughter).

>>151770114
Honestly it's worthy for the Servant interactions imo. The MC barely does anything anyway.

>>151769958
Some Arthur knight called gabydoug or something.

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Olga is made for bullying

>>151769989
You just don't have the whole picture yet, GO's story is actually quite olid but that's only apparent with lore revelations later on

As it stands the anime did what it needed to do, it is there to work as an advertisement for the game. The full story is in there

>>151768719
>>America
>Higashide
Originally was planned to be Higashide, but Nasu took over and rewrote it.

>>151770167
>The MC barely does anything anyway.
Yes, that's a huge flaw in any story. Particularly coming from Nasu.

>>151769975
>talented magus
>Skeletons almost beat her
>loved a dude with shitty hair
deserved it

>>151769993

He is a painfully average low key magus. Really most magus have chance to be masters


Olga is an abnormality which is why she gets triggered about it

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>>151770029
But they have Da Vinci-chan. And what are they supposed to do, rip her soul out of the sun and shove her in a doll body?

Is TYPE-MOON messing around too much?

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>>151770224
Those skeletons would put fear in the heart of bigger men.

>>151770220
I guess you could say that Mashu is the MC since she actually goes through some character development. MC-kun is just kinda there.

>>151770220
>The MC has to be important and central to the story

Why? Just because you want it?

Your character is important just not in the ultra powerful kind of way.

>>151770114

The game isn't P2W, I never gave it a single dollar and I have a pretty solid team with plenty of gold servants that I like.

The story IS worth reading. Nasu pretty much says it's one of GO's selling points which is why he learned to put effort on it.

>>151770224

Who were skeletons, anyway?

Caster (Medea) was the one who summoned the skeletal horde in F/SN.

Why was a random gang of spooky skeletons running around Fuyuki in this timeline, though? Unless she was Berserker in this timeline and could summon skeletons just by roaring.

>>151770064
>that being cool
Shit, it looked boring, I guess the idea of servants fighting is cool before you realize the game is less dynamic than Mash and MC. I haven't played the game so besides some pictures I don't know how it plays, looks fairly boring

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>>151770224
She can be a magus who was born without talent both at being a master and shooting skeletons but good at the rest.

>>151770287
Absolutely, but at least they have studios animating spin-offs on the side so I get that they don't want to make Tsukihime just yet.

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>>151770251
She still is in the planet. With Goteia taken down we don't know what affect that may have on things that occured as a result of him. For all we know she will show up anytime we Leyline shift as she no longer have body/act as a computer program telling where things are going wrong.


I'm surprised no one posted this in the last few days

>>151769608
SHIT GIRL

>>151770287
Think of what they have produced after the last visual novel they made and imagine what they could have made instead in the past 10 years. Compare the two, what is your judgment?

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>>151770220
Nasu shouldn't have made Gudao a self-insert. We should've just played through the story getting his input as a novice magus who entered into Chaldea, how he feels about doing X-this and that, him actually doing shit and assisting in fighting, and all his reactions to Servants attempting to rape him.

Would've made the thing more interesting.

>>151770316
you're literally thinking way too hard about it

this isn't a xbox one game brah

>>151770316
The game is fun enough, especially when you manage to get your favorite charactes but yeah it isn't worth to play if you aren't a Fate fan.

>>151770294

The MC actually goes through character development, that gets better shown after Nasu joins the writing team

As you can see, he is pretty dim in the prologue but the plan to take down Hercules during the Okeanos chapter comes from him

>>151769993
Reminds me of "average" WSJ MCs who are really super-powered machines with unlimited guts and damage resistance.

Maybe "average" is code for "pretend this guy is like you and expect nothing unusual"

>>151770337
I WANT GUDAKO IN THE ANIME!

FUCK, WHY DID THEY SCREWED UP THE MOST BASIC THING THAT DIDN'T COULDN'T SCREW UP.

WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE, WHO IS TO BLAME

GUDAO IS SHIT

>>151770337
>With Goteia taken down we don't know what affect that may have on things that occured as a result of him
The end of the game said the 200 Chaldea security people who died at the start are still dead. Olga is still dead too.

People misinterpret the "living infinite death" thing. She isn't actually dying for eternity. She dies nearly instantaneously. But her subjectivity gets stretched by the time-field she was shoved into, so she experienced that instant for an infinite duration.

>>151770398
It wouldn't have been nearly as sucessful. GO's MC is meant to represent (you).

>>151770311
Because they're the fucking main character. If they're just there as an "observer" then they're doing nothing but cluttering up the cast. It's especially bad when compared to Nasu's other works, where more often than not the story revolves around the MC's growth.

It's not a matter of being P2W, it's the business model of allowing you to pay for waifus.

>>151770186
I can't care for the story if the MC is a wooden board, a story/spinoff that relies on lore to carry itself shouldn't have been a story, or needs to be rewritten

>>151770418
>implying
The guy really is a low key magus though. An average human being at best.

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>>151770438
They probably weren't confident they could make her as outlandishly awesome as she is in Riyo's comic. Seriously, he's got a talent for making her wonderfully insane.

>>151770444
Exactly, which is the lowest of the low as far as dumbing down your writing to appeal to otakus who give you money goes.

>>151770322
>not being good at shooting things
sasuga anon

>>151765402
literally who?

>>151770314
There just was some skeletons to make Olga look vulnerable.

>>151770220
It's a unfortunate problem when the enemy side has no Masters. Trying to shove a normal human into Servant vs Servant battles becomes dumb.

>>151770447
A story doesn't necessarily depends on it's MC to be good, specially GO since it builds itself around servant interactions and just because Nasu followed a formula in earlier works it doesn't means he needs to follow it in all of his works.

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>She didn't just die she will also suffer for eternity

They did that on purpose, right? What a twist. Instead of the tsundere being a main character, they kill her off first episode signifying that this anime/game is serious business. Suffering haha.

>>151770440
What you saying makes sense the issue is how much she has been pushed in both MB and Case Files and her family influence to F/GO. They are not getting rid of her that easily especially since they did all that development in the anime to make animefags not forget her.

>>151770410
I'm trying to rationalize my distaste for the anime, and in the effort making my opinion more extreme. Simple shit anon.

>>151770464
The MC in the game is basically (you) though, are (you) a wooden board? In any case, what carries GO is servant interaction and memes, specially memes.

Anime Fujimaru will most likely get more development if they chose to adapt more orders since he actually becomes a competent master.

>>151770438
Because official adaptation Gudako would be just as bland so it doesn't really matter.

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>>151770444
>MC is meant to represent you.
Implying. I would've shoved my dick into Kiyohime when she built that traditional style house instead of throwing Fou. Tamamo also would've gotten the dick during the open bath.

>>151770482
The writing isn't dumbed down just because the MC is meant to be (you) though as I said, Camelot and Babylon were really good works.

>>151770593
We're talking about the anime, not the game. I can imagine the servant interactions to be fun but too bad the anime had little to none of it

>>151770563
And I told you this isn't trying to be good, just cool. There's nothing to discuss about if you don't internalize that first. This was just an ad for the game, a very popular game that makes millions.

>>151770438
Riyo Gudako =/= Normal Gudako

>>151770440
The way she dies is mysterious and suspicious enough. It's not a simple death, but a complex one that opens up the potential to get her back somehow. Type-Moon can easily insert her into the story. It just depends on her growing popularity.

>>151770533
I'll just have to disagree with that, the MC is paramount in any storytelling medium (unless it's an ensemble cast that doesn't have one anyway). They can easily make or break what otherwise could be a good story.

>>151770523
Many times, a master skill is what dictates if your servant will end up winning or losing.

>>151770601
>Implying you would have actually done that
Nice try

>>151770475
>implying
Says exactly what it says, man.

Also, an average magus usually isn't an average human being. Because of magi culture.

>>151770628
Because the anime was literally just the prologue and most of the servants there were shadow servants devoid of proper personalities

>>151770632
And I thought I attempted to state that it wasn't cool at all. I know it's an ad, I just want to convince others to hate it as well

>>151770656
>ensemble cast
That's exactly what FGO is. You play as the last remaining master but you aren't the focus of the story so in actuality you are the MC only in name.

>>151770706
Leading back to the anime is shit

>>151770705
An average human being for the Fate world I mean.

>>151770613
Do you expect anyone here to have read them?

>>151770780
Are you like those retards who watch one anime episode and decide it's shit? Fuck off>>151770798

>>151770593
That's why an MC cannot be (you). For mass appeal, something being (you) just means they have common personality traits but pull off a heroic acts like they're an ideal (you) when it matters.

>>151770745
Yeah, no. The story quite fucking clearly focuses on MC and Mashu's adventures through various singularities, as they meet characters who come and go. They are the constant in the narrative, and they fucking suck.

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>>151770672
Okay. I might have not fucked Kiyohime, because she's bat shit crazy. But I would fuck Serenity and Tamamo.

>>151770798
No, since you guys are EOPs. Just take my word for it

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>>151770745
This

The gameplay is not what makes F/GO
The story is enjoyable but it is not the main reason for it's success
It is all about the Servant interactions and how they deal with each other even inside Chaldea.

Are you telling me you don't want to see EMIYA teaching female Servants to be a better wife through cooking?

>>151770818
>one anime episode
>it's actually an OVA with over an hour runtime

>>151770557
>They are not getting rid of her that easily especially since they did all that development in the anime
It was exactly the same as she got in the prologue and she didn't come back for all of F/GO.
SHE'S DEAD
SHE'S JUST FUCKING DEAD
NO MIRACLE
ACCEPT IT

>>151770875
Screencap this.
See you in a few months when she is back

>>151770832
They're (you) because you are meant to self insert as them, they don't have any prior bagage like Shiki or Shirou. They're your average magus from your average magus family that happened to see the Chaldea flier and join in it

>>151770834
Each order is like a different story and each story has different MCs like the Hassans in Camelot

GO MC and Mashu are constant but Mashu develops and the GO MC becomes a more competent master

>>151770895
>See you in a few months

Its been two years since she died

>>151770672
>FGO mechanics
Not even true since it's mostly grinding.

Storywise I think it rarely occurs too.

>>151770870

Same thing happened with F/SN UBW, are you saying you can judge that based only on one episode?

>>151770979
The game is getting better at employing gimmicks to make content harder and actually having to make you think

The fight against the last boss for example requires strategy

>>151770955
The average magus from an average magi family carries crazy magi baggage. How many normal magi have you seen in Fate.

>>151770990
That was a season long show, this is an OVA. Judging 25 episodes worth of shows off of 1 is stupid. Judging an OVA by it's only part is fair.

>>151770990
What, in terms of the writing? Yeah, the prologue of F/SN is pretty on part with most of the routes. It's a great introduction that's mysterious while grabbing your interest with its setting and characters. That's something FGO certainly did not do.

>>151771048
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with adapting into story. MC isn't going to be dropping stars on Mashu.

There's only one way I could see the MC being "average" but still having useful magical skills. And that's if he has command spells that reappear with time. Then he has miracle tier magic, but not unlimited.

>>151766210
No, she wasn't. They removed most of her bitchier and awful scenes.

>>151766781
It's a loli version, nothing to do with Olga. Anyway, a lot of character appear in irrelevant side manga.

>>151769355
He did give a fuck, retard. He was busy saving the whole existence.

>>151771121
This OVA was the first part of eight, haven't you noticed the name "First Order"?

>>151771149
That's not what I was saying, what I was saying was: can you judge something based on the prologue?

>>151771066
Not the GO MC

>>151771167
Those spells are spells he can use to support sevants so yeah, he could do it.

> And that's if he has command spells that reappear with time.

If it ends up following the game, they do.

>>151769550
She died. Then the actual mascot character killed his sentience to bring her back to life. Solomon saved history and humanity with Ars Nova.

>>151771305
He didn't give a fuck in the sense that he didn't try to save her.

>>151771411
He couldn't have saved her, what the fuck did you want him to do?
Solomon can't revive the dead.

>>151767809
El Melloi Cases is set years before the Fuyuki Grail War.

>>151765402
To let you know how serious the game was.

>>151771334
You can judge the quality of the writing, definitely, which is all that I've been doing. A story that doesn't even bother to have a good start is not going to be a good story overall.

>>151771334
>Those spells are spells he can use to support sevants so yeah, he could do it.
You're not thinking about this very hard, huh.

>>151769065
Nasu said FGO 1.0 story was Roman's. Blank Self insert and bland heroine were a mistake, I agree. But he has a boner for kouhai-types.

>>151771424
Even if Solomon could, Roman didn't have his full powers and reviving the dead would be undermining his message to fucking Goetia about how death is just part of life.

>>151771411
He did give a fuck. He's the whole reason why she's even treated like a person to begin with. Roman didn't think death was bad and Mashu died on her terms.

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>>151771477
It just ended up looking silly though, picking someone who was already dead and who didn't do anything to deserve any of that and torture her in an extremely brutal way just to show seriousness.

It would be better if it was just the reveal that she was already killed by her beloved and the natural drama that would follow.

>>151769228
Nope Primate Murder saved her because her soul was outside of time, it was a very specific moment and place that let her be revived.

>>151771509
>A story that doesn't even bother to have a good start is not going to be a good story overall
Now that's just not even true.

>>151771509
Now I know you are just shitposting, fuck off.

>>151771599
All of the master skills are spells, the Stun one form the battlesuit is Gandr for example

>>151770311
>The game isn't P2W, I never gave it a single dollar and I have a pretty solid team with plenty of gold servants that I like.

Please tell us your no-paying secrets, o successful poorfag anon.

>>151771624
>Mashu
>bland
Hello EOP

>>151771761
Flauros is an evil asshole.

The problem with FGO is that the MC is uninteresting self-insert. Even Sieg and Hakuno have more going for them but the whole "means to represent (you)" lowers the quality of Nasu's protagonists who are fairly interesting or have potential to be.

>>151766781
>Melty Blood manga

That doesn't prove anything. The entire plot of Melty Blood was about an evil vampire mist resurrecting fake simulacra of every dead villain in Tsukihime up to that point, including Nrvnqsr and later Roa.

>>151771946
>poorfag
Not even, I just think it's dumb to waste money on a mobage. Of course I didn't got all the characters I wanted but I'm happy with that I got.

I managed to get EM

>>151771959
Mashu is bland. She's just a nice girl with some minor jealousy bouts, and a poorly done Rei-clone with a dash of kouhai.

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Don't bully qt Director.

>>151771861
>>151771882
It absolutely is. Sure some stories slightly redeem themselves after terrible starts, but it's never going to be legitimately great if the start is as bad as this little Prologue (and it supposedly only gets worse for a while). You literally cannot name one example that goes against this.

>>151765402
I think that Nasu hates Rin. So she decided to kill an older, more bitchy, version of Rin.
Still. I miss the director ;_;

>>151771996
What's your method to withstanding all this insanity?

>>151766295
kek. The dialogues in the anime were the cheesiest.

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>>151771959
>Flauros is an evil asshole.
I meant at the level of the writer, but just the fact that he killed her, or put the bomb below her, would show that.

It's even weird since he didn't bother to make her suffer in that first attempt and instead would give her the most instantaneous and painless death of anyone there, but went out of the way to distort time and space just to make her pointlessly suffer in an unusually expensive way for him.

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>>151772038
And the actual Rin turn into a demi-servant of Ishtar, the goddess of whoring.

>>151772040
Not that Anon, but I hoard my Quartz

>>151772156
>goddess of whoring
How fitting for her.

>>151765402
Will anyone care about her when Da Vinci come in?

>>151772156
This pleases my dick but it's so fucking dumb. Demi-servants were a mistake.

>>151767270
>He
Ohitashi is a woman.

Her death seemed unnecessarily edgy

>>151772212
Orleans.

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Who's ready for Part II and new loli?

>>151770216
You mean Camelot?

>>151772325
This isn't part II, it's part 1.5.

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>>151772325

>>151772156
RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR FREE
OHOHOHOHOHOHOH

>>151772325
>>>/vg/164433201

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>>151772325
What is that, a poster for ants.

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>>151772325
>Pic for ants

>>151772325
Its a small chapter before P2

Its 1.5

>>151772212
But Da Vinci is a guy...

She was a useless character with shit personality. There was no point to her existence and she felt like pathetic attempt at Rin clone. Apparently a first rate magus but she runs like coward from the most basic mobs.

Lancer-Caster was the only good thing about FGO

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>>151769157
People are obsessed with the female MC because there's a joke manga where she's a molesting crazy girl.

>>151772422
That's only what TYPE:(((they))) want you to think

>>151772404
>>151772410
Who the fuck is the Negro?

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What happened to Medea and Gilgamesh?
Why was Chu summoned as a Caster and Medusa summoned as a Lancer?
Why was Saber alter OP enough to take down almost every other servant?
Why were all humans in Fuyuki gone?
Why didn't Archer use UBW?
How was mankind outside of chaldea wiped out without any counter guardian being summoned?

>>151772435
Lancer Caster sucked the good thing about FGO is Edison and Tesla

>>151772157
I guess my terrible typesetting is still around

>>151772458
Look at the guns

And yes it is him as Alter

>>151765402
I think its hilarious because she looks like an important side character or even a main character because of her design. Truly glorious bait and switch

>>151768460
So much this.

>>151772444
Why is she so addicted to mobage shit?

>>151769449
It's ok, no need for salt; you waifu lives on in your hearts.

>>151772462
DUDE don't think about it, just enjoy the waifus and wait for Babylon LMAO

>>151772422
He a guy who gets to be a cute girl. He living the dream

>>151772492
Because there is no escape

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>>151772435
Cu was great, but we know who the real MPVs would be in the end.

>>151772512
Bruh I never played this shit, but you can't unironically argue that her death WASN'T dumb, excessively edgy, and out of place, right? It was downright comedic.

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>>151772492
It's pretty cool if you're already into the fate franchise, but I understand that not everyone likes it.

So will the MC be able to summon other servants?

>>151772462
Put your avatar back on Frodo.

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>>151772422
Was a guy, but is now cute and as we all know cute is justice.

>>151772462
>How was mankind outside of chaldea wiped out without any counter guardian being summoned?
Counter Guardians were confirmed to be low tier janitors who can't do shit

>>151772462
It's an alternate universe where stuff is different to suit whatever NASU wants to happen. That's the convenience of alternative universes.

>>151772582
You know the same guy just burned all humans on 2016?

>>151772610
What would Da Vinci feel if I put my dick inside her vagooo? Would he feel regrets?

>>151772622
>They do it for free

>>151772601
>So will the MC be able to summon other servants?
I hope so. But it would look pretty comical if the next OVA has Gudao and a JRPG party of six servants with him.

>>151772585
Gudako is best MC in all the Nasuverse shit

>>151772462

Counter Guardians are shitters now. Janitor-tier who can only kill child soldiers not demon gods.

>>151772686
Even worse they do it for free and are useless.

>>151772632
Will this AU be canon? I remember there's a saying that any universe with Zelretch in it is canon.

>>151772658
Sure. Why did he kill so cruelly? Why the focus on her innocent face running into a blatant trap, her expression of pain, and literally not context for why he hated her? Maybe it makes sense with later explanation, but in this episode it was sudden and just fell flat, awful directing.

>>151772658
But after burning them did he eternally torture their soon to disappear souls by throwing in a black hole through a especially prepared wormhole through time and space just because he is so bad and evil?

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Who the fuck name their kid Mash

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>>151772776
It is Mashu and it is a beautiful name

>>151772737
>>151772733
EMIYA BTFO

>>151772662
Da Vinci actually has standards. Probably because it's actually a guy.

>>151772733
>>151772622
>immortal EMIYA with unlimited prana is janitor-tier
FGO really was the worst mistake Nasu has ever made, holy shit.
Thank god none of this will ever be relevant to TM works that have good stories.

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>>151772776
Scientist Magi who grew the kid in a lab.

>>151772776
She's not human.

>>151772462
>What happened to Medea and Gilgamesh?
Why do you believe this is the stay night timeline?
>Why was Chu summoned as a Caster and Medusa summoned as a Lancer?
Because Darius was summoned as Rider. So Medusa went Lancer and Cu went Caster.
>Why was Saber alter OP enough to take down almost every other servant?
She stronk
>Why were all humans in Fuyuki gone?
They were incinerated. Shinji was turned into stone and then killed because he's Shinji.
>Why didn't Archer use UBW?
Because that fight was only for the cool effect. Cu was needed to finish off Saber.
>How was mankind outside of chaldea wiped out without any counter guardian being summoned?
Because Counter Guardians appear when is humans vs. humans.

>>151772748
What does canon even mean in a franchise built on alternative universes?

>>151772748
All of the worlds burn, Prisma Illya and KnK are gone officially. Ryogi lived because she's dreaming

>>151772754
>>151772761
He killed her in a painlessly manner, then bitch didn't die. He was probably irritated. He was in a bad mood because Roman didn't come when he told him and didn't got blow up as well.

Give him a break.

>>151772880
So yeah, unecessarily edgy and ridiculous.

>>151772840
What exactly caused humanity to be wiped out with the exception of those inside Chaldea anyway?

>>151772932
History being destroyed

>>151772932
They only found out in the last chapter of the game. Nobody knew until then.

>>151772840
>>Why didn't Archer use UBW?
>Because that fight was only for the cool effect. Cu was needed to finish off Saber.
Not quite
EMIYA was a Shadow Servant which are both weaker than the full version and cannot utilize their NP

>>151772481
I don't want to believe.

>>151772932
Leff said that the miniature Earth's soul is protecting them. That's in the anime, haven't played the game.

>>151772816
Alaya and Gaia or whoever is running this shit now (because God is active in FGO) get real powerhouses to deal with the serious cases, Counter Guardians are literally who losers who needed to cut a deal to gain power. Grand Servants are the best of the best among the Heroic Spirits which qualify with a series of requisites, while Counter Guardians are lower on the hierarchy. They are officially called "fake Heroic Spirits" now.

And the one who was doing this destroying all time, history and humanity plan was the first among the Beasts concealed in a Grand Servant mask. They couldn't do shit to stop him. Nobody could except one person.

>>151772325
>and new loli?
We talked about it last night

Its a story that's stranger than fiction. Eleven year old girl and her friends accuse 57 people altogether of being witches. Anyone who doubts her, she suddenly called a witch. Anyone who called her a liar was a witch. At least fifteen or so killed, one guy refused to confess to anything so he was killed by being pressed to death by weights.

In the courtroom she would fake spasms and claim that the defendant was putting a spell on her at the time, they were burning her with spells in the courtroom as she flailed around with her friends who backed her up.

Nine hanged

She got away with everything, never apologized, escaping to another city never to be heard from again.

>>151772816
>Unlimited mana
>vs
>Grand Caster Solomon
Nuff said

>>151772810
>shitting on EMIYA

Fuck nasu.
Also Not.Rin was cute.

>>151772816
He can't do anything against things that are far more powerful than he is, have more prana at their disposal (they do) and cannot fucking die.

>>151768903
Yeah france and septem really is when the sheer writing magnificience blooms

>>151772715
Too fucking bad Nasu says that Mash feels nothing for Gudako but falls in love with Gudao. Mash is a boring ass het

>>151772816
You know that Goetia could use a neat trick of sucking all the mana of the world if he wanted because he hijacked Solomon body?

There's that.

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>>151773023
>>151773036
>>151773076
Yeah, sure.
Irrelevant mobages go in the trash can.

>>151772462
>>Why was Chu summoned as a Caster and Medusa summoned as a Lancer?

Why do I find questions like this so dumb? Like "Why in the infinite possibilities to ever exist of infinite world-lines that don't have to necessary line up with the one world-line I knew about from the one Fate anime I watched could it be possible for this hero to be summoned in a different class instead?"

You could have gotten any number of different combinations of the same heroes summoned in different classes just based on when the masters summoned during the ritual.

>>151773031
What a little cunt.

>>151773189
You've probably heard of the Salem Witch Trials

That's how it all happened

>he's a Counter Guardian
>on the planet earth
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic inmortal life
>he deletes people he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he deletes people he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl he still has to fail to protect
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of the Throne of Heroes
>he will never be at a healthy mental state
>he will never know how to feels to cook for someone again
>he will never have a girlfriend again
>he will never have any friends again

>>151769938
>She admires the guy because he is very human like a
but hes an fucking emotionally stunted dude with no personality
girl has a very weird definition of ""very human lime

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>>151773233

>>151772582
I didn't play it either, but for some reason it seems to offend you on a personal level.

Didn't know this special pissed in your cereal.

It's literally a "stuffed in the fridge" moment to show how "dire" things are. This has existed in fiction since ever.

So...I don't actually care that much.

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>>151773233
and his name

is Kiritsugu

>>151773233
At least EMIYA has Kiritsugu to hang with

>>151773016
Accept it and simply prepare for Unlimited Shitposting Works.

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>>151773233

So Shirou, Rin, Taiga, Iliya, Kotomine and Wormslut are all toast now?

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You are literally a cuckold if you support this nu-Nasuverse lore in any way (including just playing the game for free).

Thank god for anime adaptations of past works, because as long as mobages are successful Nasu won't be working on anything good again.

>>151772932
King of Demons Goetia. No seriously.

>>151773309
So which saber variation is this again?

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GROW YOUR HERO

>>151773345
Rin, Taiga, and Sakura were pulled outside of time, so they survived.

They were possessed by goddesses that wanted hosts, so they could fight in the coming war. Since divine spirits can't get directly involved, they need some way to allow themselves to get involved, so they steal a body.

>>151773345
>So Shirou, Rin, Taiga, Iliya, Kotomine and Wormslut are all toast now?
Good riddance, nobody cared about Fate for the characters, anyway