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Come on, they weren't really that bad, they where just doing

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Come on, they weren't really that bad, they where just doing their jobs.
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Are you talking about Shaft or the vampire hunters?
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>>151742942
Vampire Hunters... but I'll go with both now.
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>>151742895
Why the fuck is Dramaturgy blue in the TV show?
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O thought they were good.
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Kizu 3 better not suck.
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>>151743254
Kizu 2 was good.
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>>151742986
They wanted the Street Fighter audience.
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>>151743254
auto 10/10
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I just finished kizu 1 and 2 after waiting since release to watch them so I could watch all around same time. How quickly will kiss 3 be subbed?
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>>151743562
kizu 3 hasn't even been in theaters yet
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>>151743687
Well yeah no fuck I'm just wondering how long after
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>>151743702
...The same as the others, obviously?
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>>151743702
Or you can just wait till another Akiba fest where you have to sit around a bunch of fat awkward dudes in a theater, but I got to say that boosted my self confidence by a lot.
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>>151742895
>a vampire with blade hands who can't regen for shit
>a half-vamp that throws a cross as his main strategy
>a priest, but not gay or 80s-movies badass kind

I'm more impressed that they managed to survive long enough to be considered professionals. Some human operator with prep time could 3v1 ezpz
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>>151742895
guillotine cutter is pretty hot desu
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>>151743915
Well, when you think about it Vampires have a shit ton of weaknesses, I bet they just threw holy water and garlic at some to call it a day.
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How the fuck did these guys defeat Kiss-shot again? Arararagi wrecked their shit after being turned into a vampire with a fraction of her strength.
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>>151744646
Have you not been paying attention to kiss-shot excuses on why she got rekt?

>attacked her when her guard was down
>she can't handle 3on1 but would destroy them in 1on1, which is what rrrg is doing now
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>>151744646
meme also stole her heart so she was considerably weaker
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>>151744876
One has to wonder whether that maneuver uses the pickpocket skill or the seduction skill.
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>>151742895

No one is actually bad in Monogatari, everyone and everything is just following their nature given to them.
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>>151744646
Literally meme magic
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>>151744810
>can't handle 3v1
Those guys weren't worth shit, it was all meme's involvement that save their asses.
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>>151744946
>vampires
>not bad
>literally kill people to sustain themselves
They should all be purged by the Light.
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>>151744946
>everyone and everything is just following their nature given to them.

That only applies to the oddities themselves but there are definitely bad people.
Tadatsuru, Kaiki and Gaen are definitely bad people.
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>>151744646
She wanted to die, but at the last moment got scared and called random person (Araragi) so he could give her blood to save her.
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>>151745955

I wouldn't say anyone of them are bad, they have their own agendas they do for peoples good in their own fucked up way just like Oshino.
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>>151746027
Tadatsuru had full intention to murder Araragi's sisters and Kanbaru until Gaen pointed out that there are still people that can kick your ass in teh afterlife.
Kaiki is a straight conman and none of his good actions can cover up that fact.
Gaen has straight murdered a guy.

They've all got good parts to them as Kaiki argued in Hanamonogatari but if you take a look at their actions, they're not terribly good people.
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>>151745955
>specialists
>bad people
They are fighting agains't the immortal vampires, smalltime gods and other nasty shit, you can't really afford to be "nice" with them. Yes, Gaen nothinpersonelling araragi was a dick move, but he was turning into a vampire and giant fucking problem by the name kisshot was about to become unresolved again. Fucking vampire apologists shits.
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>>151746074

Tadatsuru had no plan to harm any of the girls, he explains this in Mayoi Hell

Kaiki is a dick but he is not inherently evil, he just capitalized on people who are going to do something malicious with or without him.

Gaen is probably the closest thing to an "evil" person in the series. I can't argue that they all aren't assholes but they aren't completely evil.
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>>151746075
Hey, I'm not arguing that the exorcists are wrong. I'm just arguing that they're bad people.
I didn't include Yozuru or Oshino for that reason. Neither of them go around fucking up humans.
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>>151746118
That doesn't make them evil.
Good=/=nice, especially when dealing with undead fucking shits.
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>>151746024
she was also intending to lose the fight with rrrgi because the only way he could become human was if she died
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>>151746117
That spoiler is where you find out that he DID have intention to do it UNTIL Gaen came along and conned him into working with her when he never would.

Kaiki is a conman and we consider conmen to be evil. A good person does not take advantage of the weakness in humanity to make profit.

I only consider Gaen evil because she straight killed a man, otherwise she's pretty much just Oshino and given she did actively force a situation in a duel she didn't want to favour Araragi not dying, I would put her as a good person.

>>151746151
But they're dealing with humans, anon. Tadatsuru was going to murder two humans and an oddity. Gaen murdered a human, Kaiki actively cons humans.
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>>151746315

I either don't remember or haven't read it, who does Gaen murder?
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>>151746351
Araragi.

Very impressively as well considering she said it would only take a second and by Araragi's own dying inner monologue, he agreed with her assessment.

I'm just wondering why she's so good with a sword? Is that a thing unique to her within the Gaen Network or are all of them trained in how to use weapons?
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>>151746399

I'm dumb, I was thinking she killed someone else.
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>>151746399
Araragi was turning into a vampire, so it was fair game from that point. Gotta do what you gotta do.
>>151746315
>Tadatsuru
His targets were Kisshot and Araragi, so fair game.

We are talking about killing the most powerful (although sealed) vampire in their world and her thrall. You have to play nasty to get them.

Once again: Good=/=nice
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>>151746315
>Gaen murdered a human
She removed a vampire, what was formerly a human. And in doing so she is saving human lives. I dont see anything wrong with this, unless youre some colossal shounen-tier moralfaggot.

Kaiki is really the only objectively bad one. Justifying it by saying 'its only a con, they would have hurt each other anyways' doesn't mean shit. It's like the difference between letting kids die in African wars and going to Africa and getting paid to pull the trigger yourself. I love Kaiki, but he is a bad person.
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>>151748565
I think Kikey is nothing more but a dumbed down John Constantine but he's still an interesting character in the series. That last scene in S2 is bretty good.
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>>151748565

You could argue Gaen helped Araragi by essentially purifying his vampirism. Although Araragi just reverts back in the end, Gaen still helped even if she had her own motive for doing it.
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>>151746075
How is Kaiki not a bad person? He tried to get Tsukihi killed over an incredibly petty reason

You can still like the character but you can't deny that
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> You are not miserable persons anymore. Kissshot is free and you are full human Araragi
> We never asked for this
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>>151748908
>trying to get Tsukihi killed
He was sending a hothead and an undead girl to kill Kisshot's thrall sister. Without any kind of support. They were doomed to fail.
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>>151748965

Thank based RRRG for bringing back Hachikuji from Hell and preventing Kiss-Shot from getting stuck with a job she hates.
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>>151748974
He was sending the strongest oddity hunter and the one who outright specializes in hunting immortal oddities to kill Tsukihi. You can't dress this up, hell Kaiki doesn't.
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>>151748974
It was literally only because Koyomi talks Kagenui down that nothing happened there, I don't get what you're implying. If Kaiki intended no harm to happen then he wouldn't have tipped Kagenui off in the first place.
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some day we will have kizu 2 subbed
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>>151749109

We had Kizu 2 subbed for over a week now.
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>>151749141
what are the best subs?
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>>151749452

I just used the first ones posted on /a/ that don't even have the preview subbed, but the actual translation was fine. The subs were done by Kizusubs, there is probably a better version out there now.
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>>151742895
Episode was hotter in PV version
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>>151744130
Jiraiya voice is weird as fuck though
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the art style in kizu is so much better, wish they did the entire series like that
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>>151746075
Did it ever occur to Gaen to, I don't know, talk to Araragi about it? Although I guess if it's any compensation, she found out real quick just what a stupid decision she had just made.
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>>151750194

She did, she knew the only reliable person to be a god and to defend the city was Kiss-Shot. Araragi kept chickening out on giving the charm to Kiss-Shot so Ougi has to get rid of it since Araragi was still too scared to do anything with the charm
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>>151742895
>they where just doing their jobs
So was Hitler.
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>>151750339
Shinobu didn't want to accept the role either.

Was there any reason given for Gaen not using Hachikuji earlier aside from Nisio not having thought of it yet?
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>>151750459

I want to say because Nisio didn't think of it at the time. That or maybe Gaen had faith in Araragi to convince Shinobu to pick up her old job but I doubt Gaen has faith in anyone.
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>>151750379
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hitler's "job" to kill people.

Don't you mean the nazi soldiers in general?
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>>151742895
Two of them attacked an innocent human. Fuck those guys.
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>>151748798
Do they really get married, or is it a meme?
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>>151750497
Will the darkness come back after Shinobu again if she stays with Araragi?
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>Guillotine cutter didnt do shit aside from kidnap someone

Why did they let such a good character design go to waste?
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>>151750858
No, the darkness came after her in the first place because she was just a vampire but had assumed the title of a god because people wanted to worship her so why the fuck not.
She's no longer pretending to be something she's not, so the darkness has no reason to come for her.
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>>151743254
It'll be good for the whole rooftop talking happening for 20+ mins, but I don't think they can outshine Kizu II, it's perfect.
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>>151750769
Hanekawa is the ideal women. Araragi will choose the best women from his harem.
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>>151751313
Fullshot IS perfect. She can outshine everything.
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i want to cum inside guillotine cutter
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>>151751371
He views her as this weird hot mom-type figure now though.

I'm not too sure why people are making a fuss about the prospect of Araragi marrying Hitagi. He's been saying that he was going to do this for a while now, and it doesn't really change much about his life approach either. Shinobu will still be his soulmate, he'll still be playing with Hachikuji (literally the only reason Hachikuji agrees to becoming the Shrine Goddess even), both him & Gahara will still fap to Hanekawa, Kanbaru will still unintentionally make other girls jealous with her friendship to him, and so on.
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Why do the vampire hunters have such weird names?

What would your vampire hunting name be, /a/?
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>>151752149
"Faggot"
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>>151751450
ffs DIO, no
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>>151752149
Steve. Sounds bland, but imagine when you rack up that killstreak and vampires know you're coming
>oh shit, fucking Steve is after us, we're so fucked!
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>>151751244

That being said why does the Darkness attack Ougi? Was it only because Ougi assumed the role of Oshino's niece?
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>>151752149
Boipussy.
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Is there any more fanservice with Blahblahblahgi in Kizu 3?
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>>151755910

We will find out from anons who go see it in a week.
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>>151742895
Guillotinecutter looks like a semi-religious Guts
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This shit comes out in less than a week and there's like 20 seconds of footage.
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