Why do people like her? This bitch is literally evil. Like worse than Tomoko, Johan, and Revy put together.
And Tomoko is half of /a/'s waifu. Some people are just into that.
No one in TYPEMOON has a memory that reaches longer than two minutes.
She's cute, smart, and fuckable.
What are you trying to say? Rin was talking about her personal life experience, she never she'd be able to handle what Sakura's been through.
Has a charming personality
Sympathetic despite her devious plots
Pretty sure everything but the second one there was rape.
Is there some contradiction that I'm unaware of in a psychopath looking cute?
Um... the fact that the cuteness is an act and there are other cuter girls
such as her sisterwho won't kill you in your sleep?
You know, I was wondering if these two would get along or kill each other.
The jury's still out on that.
You can't save everyone.
>Why do people like her? This bitch is literally evil. Like worse than Tomoko, Johan, and Revy put together.
Because she's become a cute joke character in the fighting games.
But more importantly... because out of everyone in Tsukihime, she's the one who deserves happiness the most. She's a very well written character.
Kohaku is victim of circumstances. Her route is also considered the true end of Tsukihimi. What's the worse thing that she done? Saving her sister from getting raped
Unlike Sakura, she didn't go full wormslut.
>What's the worse thing that she done? Saving her sister from getting raped
By willingly fucking Makihisa and SHIKI. She also conspires to make SHIKI kill her savior Akiha for shits and giggles. At least Sakura got rid of her tormentors all by herself.
>Rin let her sister get raped for literally years
She didn't know her sister was getting raped. You think they'd just tell little kids this shit? She just know her sister was adopted.
The only time she finds out is if you go through the Heaven's Feel route.
>for a reason which basically amounts to 'because I felt like it'
The Tohnos broke her to a point where the only thing that stopped her from killing herself was the pursuit of eventual revenge. Which is why she was so sad when Tohno came back.
>You think they'd just tell little kids this shit?
Kotomine sure as shit would.
He can pace himself.
>"Oh yeah, Sakura, they're totally giving her a legit magus education and all that stuff."
>10 years later: "PSYCHE!!! They were actually torturing her!"
>why didn't this teenager just free her sister from the 500 year old magus who her father willingly gave her to
She did nothing because there was no reason to, just like you would've you fucking cuck.
>can't be bothered to deal with Zouken
>Zouken could literally instantly kill Sakura at any point if he felt they were intending to attack him, or just use Assassin to take out Rin or Shirou straight up
>SHIKI was a big part of her plan for revenge right?
Makihisa and SHIKI were the only ones who she had any justification to get revenge on, and she had already made SHIKI kill Makihisa by the time Tsukihime starts. Akiha and Shiki did literally nothing wrong.
>He thinks that the words of a man who never lies that are immediately confirmed by the narration to be correct are actually correct
wormfags trying to make this argument in 3, 2, 1...
Don't underestimate ancient body-hopping wizards man. The guy could jump bodies any time he liked, killing Sakura in the process.
She became a joke character like Ciel.
>At no point does he ever lie to anybody
I think most people that like Kohaku like the real, non-meme Kohaku. Besides, the Kohaku that appears in the sequel is the Kohaku from Sacchin's route in Tsukihime, where Kohaku gets healed similarly to in her own route.
She was insane, sure, but the point still remains that it was completely unprovoked, unlike Sakura who got knives pointed at her by her big sister and boyfriend. Trying to make her out to be morally superior to Sakura is ridiculous.
Early on, he said Shirou needed to kill other Masters. Rin said that was BS, and Kotomine said, "Oh, right, it's just a lot more effective." Kotomine also said Shirou can't quit from being a master.
He was lying like crazy to mess with Shirou.
Actually, she decided to kill Sakura after Sakura attacked her and Shirou in the hallway at the school realizing that she was unstable.
Well, he isn't talking to "you" in that instance. He isn't a narrator or having a conversation with Shirou. He's directly talking to Sakura and accusing her of something.
Anon. Nasu admitted that Kotomine did lie on occasion throughout the novel. There is no reason to in the case being discussed though.
I like both. She is also great in Ilya.
>after Sakura attacked her and Shirou in the hallway at the school
Rider reactivated the bloodfort because Sakura was low on mana, and Rin went straight for Sakura to save time.
A) There's no sign that Kotomine knows that would happen.
B) If you want to be pedantic about lying and half truths: Shirou can quit, he just dies.
C) Shirou loses his CS to Rin in another route and doesn't die right away.
>Heaven's Feel Day 15 Interlude 15-4 Death of a saint
…Yes. Everyone tormented me until now. So I'm just getting back at them. The me who sat there and endured is gone."
The original Matou Sakura disappeared, and the other personality surfaced.
That's the only logical reason for her change.
"What are you talking about? You don't need to hide it, Matou Sakura."
The priest quickly denies it.
"W----------What do you mean?"
"I said there's no need to hide it.
You are not another personality. You were swallowed by the mud and have become addicted to violence, but you are still Matou Sakura. You don't need to prepare another personality to excuse yourself."
Her face stiffens.
He's absolutely right.
The girl grits her teeth and glares back at the priest.
Archer went for Sakura and Rin was fine with it. And Archer started losing, so it was a good call. Their lives were on the line; if Sakura hadn't done Rin's job and attacked herself it could have easily been a Dead End.
>if you just mean the physical Grail, it's right here in this Church. I touch it every day
I wonder what Kotomine would have to say to Kohaku...
I think it has to do with the choices the two girls made as much as anything. Kohaku tried to keep her plan limited to the people directly involved. Shiki was unaware of the situation so he was left out as much as possible by Kohaku. Sakura on the other hand betrayed the guy trying to save her even putting aside Rin and her servant. Kohaku's plan was simple revenge. Sakura was willing to sacrifice others to save herself.
Fuck no, Makihisa did the best he could with what he had. What would you have done, let your shitty genes kill you? Hell, the fact that he let two Synchronizers live was already quite good.
>he says it's 'cuck' to rescue his imouto
You, anon, are a literal piece of shit.
The route railroad is a factor too. HF plays up the moral dilemma between Sakura and others, but lets you only pick Sakura's side. After the previous routes go the exact opposite direction.
No surprise that Sakura gets blamed for that. For the same reason, some people who didn't like the previous routes like HF.
Based on past experience...
Point out that her 'emotionless' thing is an act and that the only boy she ever loved forgot about her for several years and othersuch YUETSU-shots until she breaks and starts crying. And then punch her in the face.
>"Wha? You can't leave her be? What are you going to do to Sakura!?"
>"…Ask Archer. I only know of one way to stop a magus like that. But Archer might know of some other way."
Archer charged Sakura on his own. Also, they were in the middle of a fight so I don't think we ever heard his plan. It wasn't that bad.
If we're thinking of the same scene anyway.
>Kotomine's deep manly voice churning in my ear about what an filthy and sinful person I am
But she really does try to kill her family.
Funny enough, all of the girls who are used-goods and damaged practically beyond repair are my favorites in Type-Moon.
Well they have to call it ''''''''church-stuff''''''' so they can write it off as a business-dinner.
Actually, wormfags agree with Kotomine. He's basically saying Sakura's still herself and capable of being saved there, after all. Funnily enough, the exact same people who try to use that quote against her tend to suddenly call him unreliable when he points out that what's eating people at night is the grail mud.
Can Caren help me with the demons inside my balls?
I'm sure she would. She does that for everyone, after all.
Jesus was quite clear that his followers stay up to date who's fucking each other. It's right before he talks about stem-cell research.
Of course she would. She would even give you a completely bored and blasé look afterwards.
Well, however divided all the various fanbases are - one thing we can always agree on is the fact that
TOHSAKA RIN PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
You know, I don't care how many old men she's fucked, if I had the money I'd fuck her too.
That might be too much for me.