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One last thread for the best girl of the show.
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This won't be the last thread. There are still so many things to discuss, symbols to analyze, and flaps to flip.
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>>151634444
Can't argue with those quads.
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>>151634444
Digits know
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>>151634360
Despite all the shit she's been through one thing is still clear as day

Smile status: Protected
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>>151634444
That's not the first time Kek shows his affection towards FlipFlappers
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>>151634444
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>Salt will never steal Tuesday PV again
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>Yayaka saves anime
>strikes a Kamina pose
Coincidence, I think not
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Why do you keep making these threads? The show is over. There's nothing else to discuss, unless you count shitposting as a "discussion".
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>>151634820
Get a load of this guy. He probably doesn't even know about sodium vapor lamps.
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>>151634360
Wrong pic, op.
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>Yayaka and Cocona folders are a variety of fanart, screenshots, etc.
>Papika folder is literally just meme reaction images
I'm sorry, Papika.
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>>151634444
Flip Flappers is so forgettable it will be forgotten by the time this thread is archived.
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>/pol/-posting, /v/-posting, reddit-posting, unadulterated shitposting
Flip Flappers deserved better.
All in all, even with the rather rushed ending, this show was something special.
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I love love love /a/
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>>151635153
I really have no idea what makes this show so attractive to all these shitstirrers.
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>>151635177
People really like it, so they're more willing to reply to bait to defend it.
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It should have stayed as whacky adventures the whole way.
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>>151634997
I've saved so many Coconafaces I'm afraid I'll get accused of avatarfagging somewhere down the line
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did 3htz respond yet?
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>>151634360
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>>151635470
>years from now
>you post a Cocona reaction face with generic filename
>an anon responds with a Papika face
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>>151635519
Mitsuketa
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>>151635519
>an anon responds with a Papika face
>receives a smug YYK in reply
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>>151635485

pls repsond
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>>151635549
bunny dick
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>>151635153
>>151635177
Yea FlFl really deserves better then you faggots getting triggered from opinions which arent your own
>all these people from different boards like the same anime as me, what a true horror.

real pathetic
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>>151635593
>proud crossboarding
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>>151634444
It was shit. Get over yourselves.
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I still can't get over the birthing references.
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>>151635450
The best aspects of characterization came out of the chemistry between Cocona and Papika.
You're asking that the show didn't have a satisfying ending that suddenly tied all of these different parties together and gave the couple its unbridled future.
>>151635593
>I'm actually too autistic to understand the concept of ontopic posting.
Shot in the dark, slick. You're from /pol/ or /v/.
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>>151635549
If we see tongueposting past the end of winter 2017 I'll be happy.
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>>151635869
With these I'M JUST POSTING MY OPINION WHY SO TRIGGERED fags it's always /pol/.
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>>151635868
Little Cocona first seeing her Aunt Papika as she is birthed from the vaginal canal that is Mimi.

And Cocona saw...

the world is beautiful and colorful.

This has to be completely intentional by the director holy shit
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>>151635930
I absolutely love the fact that Papika became a literal embodiment of regression and also of progression simultaneously by the end of the series.

I feel like this show was trying to tell me that escapism is healthy after all.
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Was pretty disappointed with the show in the end. Really needed more time to expand the plot and its ideas. Was hoping episode 3 was gonna be the foundation for the rest of the episodes. But instead we got 4 episodes of filler and 2 episodes being character stories with slight plot and 9 to 13 being pure exposition dump.
4/10
The only saving grace was Yayaka.
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>>151636311
>Was hoping episode 3 was gonna be the foundation for the rest of the episodes. But instead we got 4 episodes of filler

I don't know if there's a JoJo thread up but surely you can start one if not.
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Just saw the director's retweet. I'm so happy we came together and did this. I love you guys, lets go adventuring again sometime.
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>>151636366
While I haven't watched part 4, I could say the same thing with Part 3 at least. Just not a fan of Stand of the week.
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How did the animator not have a heart attack while drawing this?
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>>151636500
Their souls are already dead thanks to Japan working conditions.
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Today I will remind them.
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I was kind of hoping they'd make a big print of the card and frame it in their studio.
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>>151636556
Omae wa mou shindeiru
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>>151636725
We would have had to send them a print ourselves if that were to happen.
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>>151636725
It definitely would have been nice to get an even more positive reaction, but I'm just glad we didn't simply get a "Thank you, please buy the BDs!", people genuinely seemed to be happy about it so I'm content.
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>>151636780
>Please buy the BD's!
I'd have preferred that to Thank you Reddit!
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Oshiyama on FLFL world setting full text OCR
>http://pastebin.com/raw/6TjXeXF8

Summary:
>What is PI?
>Umwelt+Collective Unconscious inception.

>What is proto-KKK?
>It was a small lab which was not evil at first but turned evil after Saltdad brainfuck.
>(Also, Papikana was an ordinary human being(??))

>What is FF?
>Salt's personal army. Sayuri and Hidaka just followed him.
>Salt became a university lecturer as disguise and to make a living.
>Sayuri was his student.
>Hidaka (not from proto-KKK) worked with Salt because he respected Salt and Salt gave him a place to enjoy his own autism.

>KKK endgame?
>Exploit Mimi's power and manipulate the Collective Unconscious to unify the world.

>Papika deaging and memory loss?
>Papikana ran into a limbo area between PI where the spacetime is so unstable that her memories and age were reset from 19 yo to an infant.
>Cocona wandered into the limbo area in her "dreams" and found Papika. They met. Papika remembered Cocona's smell.
>It is important to note that Papika regaining memories is a setting in which her age of the mind did not return to the old age of 19 instead her mind was reborn and remembered her previous life. Her feelings and childishness do not go away even after regaining the memories.
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>>151637313
>Papikana ran into a limbo area between PI where the spacetime is so unstable that her memories and age were reset from 19 yo to an infant.
So basically convenient magic, meh, pretty disappointing.
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Should have been a 2 cour
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>>151637313
>19
>not even a cake
That means she spent around 5 years together with Mimi and Salt. Most of her old memories must have been from before that.
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>>151637313
WHO IS BU-CHAN'S BRAIN?
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>>151637544
ME
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>>151637446
It was always going to be convenient magic.
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>>151637313
>>It is important to note that Papika regaining memories is a setting in which her age of the mind did not return to the old age of 19 instead her mind was reborn and remembered her previous life. Her feelings and childishness do not go away even after regaining the memories.
CALLED IT
I fucking called this. I said Papika's case was closer to some kind of reincarnation recovering the memories of a past life, rather than going back to being that person.

And it turns out Papikana was 19yo, not even a cake, and barely 5 years older than what Cocona is now. I did imagine Mimi became pregnant a young age, rather than being in her mid-twenties or early thirties.
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>>151637590
Is that a scarf or did she take Salt's Christmas curtains?
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>>151637313
>her mind was reborn and remembered her previous life.
Haha, I was right faggots.

Salt/Sayuri being Teacher/Student makes sense too I guess.
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>海外からの反応も多くて嬉しい。
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>>151637313
>>Papikana ran into a limbo area between PI where the spacetime is so unstable that her memories and age were reset from 19 yo to an infant.
What a boring fucking cop out
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>>151637824
Can't be the entire explanation anyway because it doesn't explain the dicktree.
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>>151637850
That would be implying Flip Flappers explains anything
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>>151637629
So is that like "genetic memory" kinda deal from the Nanohaverse then?
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>>151637446
>>151637824
>it doesn't match my headcanon so I hate it!

>>151637890
It doesn't and doesn't need to.
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>>151634360
The ending was confusing and inconclusive, though.

>>151634444
Also we still need to discuss its sales once it comes out.
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>>151637941
It's not about headcanon, it's just lazy writing to wave your hands and say MAGIC! All they had to do was somehow tie it into Evil Mimi's plan and then it is explained.
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>>151637975
Fuck off Mimi. Guess this name has more than one meaning in FliFla threads.
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>>151637941
Its a lazy excuse, nothing about headcannon
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>>151637981
Or just say that when Mimi realized she wasn't going to make it, she gave the child to her best friend and used her last strength to de-age her so her daughter could have an equally good friend.
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>>151637975
>The ending was confusing and inconclusive, though.
How?
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>>151637824
I don't think it's a cop-out, since knowing what PI is we can tell that it does lend itself for this type of development.

The problem, once again, comes down to execution, since there was no build-up for this, and the scene just happened.

>>151637917
No idea, I'm not familiar with that concept.

Papika was turned into a baby, so she essentially was a blank slate, with no memories or experiences whatsoever. She was a new person, in a way.

As we saw in the series, her memories were recovered literally through crystal magic (since they weren't a part of her any more, due to being degaed/reset). However, for Papika, those Papikana memories are probably closer to "information" rather than actual memories, since we know they didn't affect her maturity in any way, meaning they likely didn't count like experiences to her.
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Cute Nyunyu.
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>>151638145
I just loved when the twins say the "Ah." it's always make me laugh
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>>151638098
>she gave the child to her best friend and used her last strength to de-age her so her daughter could have an equally good friend
I don't think that would be a good idea, since that would make it seem as if Mimi considered Papikana some kind of object she could just use as she pleased.
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>>151638113
>Papika was turned into a baby, so she essentially was a blank slate, with no memories or experiences whatsoever. She was a new person, in a way.
She still knew how to talk and had enough awareness to mark days or whatever on the wall. It must have just taken away her actual memories.
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>>151638113
That's like saying there was no buildup for the second impact in Eva. I happened before the actual show.
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>>151638098
That works too.
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>Cockona
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>>151638186
No idea, they said in the interview her mind was "reborn" stating that both her memories and age were "reset". I take that as meaning she went back to zero.

As for how she managed to learn language and being able to count, again, no idea, could be PI magic.
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>>151637824
If it was actually interesting they would have put it in the show. Sure, it's frustrating to not know, but some explanation in an interview is not the thing you should be objecting to - the intention here was clearly that it doesn't really matter.
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>>151636762
>>151636780
What did you niggers do?
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>>151638211
>Papicunt
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>>151638195
That's a bad example, since the 2nd Impact was always a clear aspect of Evangelion's setting. We knew what happened early on - we didn't know necessarily the full details, but we knew enough so that the setting was understandable.

In FF, Papika actually having been older was a plot point that got introduced by episode 7 (i.e. past the story's mid-point). That plot point also introduced the question of how she got deaged, and that question wasn't answered until ep13 (i.e the final episode), and even the answer was really vague, as all the story did was show her deaging, with no explanation as to how/why it happened.
With a proper build-up, that wouldn't have been a problem.
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>>151638452
We showed the elevens that we are warmhearted people.
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So yayaka gets shafted so hard cocona doesnt even give a shit about her anymore? what the fuck
fuck papika hated that bitch from the beginning
it was so hard to see yayaka slowly accepting the ntr.
also why the fuck should salt get together with sayuri?
He can still communicate with mimi via cocono or maybe even enter pure illusion himself
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>>151638511
Got the link to the last thread?
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>>151638431
Thats the problem with the show.
Anything not really make sense? lol just don't think about it.
Introduce characters that don't do anything? lol just don't think about it.
Put in plot points that don't really get answered? lol just don't think about it.
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>you will never flip Papika's flaps
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>>151638544
>So yayaka gets shafted so hard cocona doesnt even give a shit about her anymore?
What makes you think she doesn't give a shit about her any more?
Yayaka is still a friend and clearly a very important person to Cocona, just not an object of romance like Papika is.
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>>151638577
Don't think, feel!
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>>151638597
fuck papika
everything was set up with yayaka being cocona's new and true partner when she disobeyed the organisation and papika remembered mimi. What a disappointment.
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>>151638655
>fuck papika
I suppose Cocona will do that, one day.

>everything was set up with yayaka being cocona's new and true partner
In your mind maybe.
Yayaka did several things for Cocona, mostly protect her, but the one who changed the way she saw and experienced her own life was Papika. Cocona even brings this up when she confesses to Papika in the final episode.

Even the imagery in the show is lent itself to show how Papika brought colours, light and life into Cocona's life.

None of that was ever part of Yayaka's role in the story. That's why hers was a one-sided love. That was always her set-up.
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>>151638577
Well. If they told you everything straight up, you'd not really thinking about it either. If they keep things vague, the viewer can come up with his own answers.
I guess that is not everyone's cup of tea though.
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Oshiyama interview full text OCR
>http://pastebin.com/raw/nr2UqrWw

Some interesting bits:
>I like visual storytelling and hiding stuff in plain sight.
>I drew inspirations from animal behavior studies (Umwelt) and Jungian psychology.
>I'm not sure if I have a commitment to yuri but I felt like I broke Yuniko's rule of "not overdoing it" in ep 7 when I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.
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>>151638852
>when I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona
This just keeps getting better.
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>>151638777
There is a difference between exposition dump and pacing out the information. I hate things that are just flat out explained as soon as they're introduced or everything is explained in one big episode. I like when something new is introduced and maybe some hints along the way, but a couple episodes later we're given an explanation and/or given a reason why they're even there.
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>>151638852
Cocona is a pure flower who's not to be defiled by a dick. Sorry Futanon, still love you.
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>>151638852
>Go to the lengths of making ikemen Papika's shirt transparent with water to establish that she isn't a female
Oshiyama going full retard or should it be masculine instead of boys?
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>>151638921
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>>151639018
You saw what you wanted to see. We now have two sources saying that all the Papikas were girls and meant to be drawn with feminine features.
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>>151635593
Holy shit he's still at it.
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>>151637313
Excellent, I was saying the age gap wasn't real all along now it's confirmed.
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>last episode is literally just Yayaka watching herself get cucked as she's man-handled by an anthropomorphic furry fantasy

nah son
nah
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Will we see Cuckona or Cockona first?
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>>151639278
I'm sure someone's already doing a Cocona gangrape doujin
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>>151639452
The only Cocona gangrape I accept is from female schoolmates, Papikas or gokigenyous. Not that any of those would really be rape.
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>>151638852
>I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.

And here i thought we couldn't put more nails into Antiyurifags coffin, he won't be getting out for a while i assume.
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>>151639270
Looks more like a Cat mistreating a rabbit, then apologizing with some food. Did Cocona ever actually feed Uexkull?
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>>151639618
Watch him deny everything the director said and claim the only thing that matters is what Papiya looked like and cling to CR's translation of ikemen.
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>>151634360
The first episode is boring as shit. When does it get good?

I hear after episode 5 it's trash.

How true is this?
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>>151639703
Watch up to Episode 3. Stop after that.
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>>151639703
episode 1 was my favorite, so you might just not watch it

3, 5 and 9 were outstanding the rest varied between meh and trash
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>>151639682
I remember Cocona feeding him some grass, but I can't find the scene. I thought it was in ep 4.
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>>151639703
If you're not REALLY into the characters and animation I wouldn't bother.
I watched this expecting episodic world hopping shenanigans and less focus on the somewhat shallow characters and mediocre plot.
In the end I feel like I'd have been better off rewatching Space Dandy.
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>>151638852
>I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.
He kept best girl Cocona completely pure, what a true gentleman.
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>>151639548
> Episode 7 Papikas Gangrape doujin when
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>>151638852
Interesting stuff.

>Originally the idea was to make a space opera but that changed before it got off the ground.
>Shows producers asked for things like the transformations, using big weapons etc.
>Purposefully made the Pure Illusions vague so viewers would be guessing "Is it about this character or that character?" He knows who they are related to but didn't want to make it clear.
>Many of the references are work that he enjoyed himself. Show was made so that you could understand it even if you didn't get any of the references. So people who just wanted to come home from work and watch a cute story about cute girls could still follow it.
>Oshiyama and Yuniko did composition and concept together, the new writer was brought on due to schedule. Both have different strengths.
>Yuniko informed Oshiyama about Yuri, he didn't let Kojima draw boys in episode 7 because he didn't want boys of the same age around Cocona from a Yuri point of view.
>Mostly Oshiyama's idea to put Dragonball and Fist of the North Star elements into episode 3.
>From the beginning of the production Oshiyama wanted there to be a mecha episode like 8.
>Yayaka and Papika were the directors favourite characters.
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>>151640003
>>Yayaka and Papika were the directors favourite characters.
>Yayaka said first

CANONICALLY
THE
BEST
KEKONA BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
PAPIKEK CONFIRMED SILVER MEDALIST
YAYABOIS WE MADE IT
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>>151639703
Be sure to watch the first 3 episodes before dropping.

The tone does change around ep9 after a continuous buildup, but the rest being trash is a meme.
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Was Papikana Cocona's dad?
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>>151640051
Hey i've always said Yayaka was best girl, even though i followed CocoPapi as a pairing Yayaka never stopped being my single favorite
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>>151640065
No.
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>>151640065
No, Mimi was her dad. How much clearer could they make it?
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>>151640051
There never was any doubt.
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>>151634997
>yayacute2
>2

post all of yayacute images
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Just finished the anime. Wow that was a wonderful ride! One of my favorite anime ever. I hope we will have other anime like this or as exciting as FliFla from Oshiyama
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>>151640173
Guess which episode the writer changed.
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>>151640171
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>>151640051
He says he likes Yayaka because of her humanness and misfortunes make her relatable and gets you emotionally attached and he likes Papika for her innocence, pureness and integrity. It makes him think wouldn't it be nice if I could keep such a pure heart as an adult. She is kind of an ideal figure.
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>mab max
what does the poster to the left say?
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>>151635901
I'll keep doing it forever. Or until I get tired of it. Or die.
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>>151640241
Sailor Luna.
Luna being Latin / French for "moon".
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>>151636001
>escapism is healthy
when you're doing that you can escape for more adventures
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>>151640241
Sailor Rune.
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>>151640199
I would say around episode 7. I eally felt that writer change at the start of episode 8 :^)
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>>151640241
Sailor Rune
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>>151640274
I can tell you're cheating by using that meme.
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>>151640051
>KEKONA BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
If a character got blow the fuck out to unheard of proportions, it was no one else than Yayaka.
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>>151640322
FUG I've been discovered
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>>151640335
Based Yayaka accepting that she just can't beat the MC-Roles and taking the L with grace
That is why she is best, aside from having an actual character.
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>>151640171
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>>151634444
I think you mean
"This won't be the last thread. There are still so many people who want to circlejerk over a show that ended even though there's nothing new to discuss. Flip Flap general #456"
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>>151640171
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>>151640407
>>151640206
>>151640559
thank you
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>>151640543
I can already envision the deep discussions.
>my wife Yayaka is so cute
>I want to look exactly like Cocona
>post more Papika feet
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>>151640635
MY WIFE YAYAKA IS SOOOOOO punished
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the whole world love Yayaca
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>>151640754
Cocona's VA said she would like a Yayaka spin-off.
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>>151640754
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>>151638852
>Jungian psychology
Holy crap so these threads were right all along. That's amazing.
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>>151638852
>I'm not sure if I have a commitment to yuri but I felt like I broke Yuniko's rule of "not overdoing it" in ep 7 when I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.

Are you sure it wasn't when they had implied hotel room sex? How about when they both appeared in wedding dresses?
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Anon, switch with anon!
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>>151639703
Go fuck yourself.
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>>151640909
But anon is anon.
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>>151640213
Speaking of Yayaka the character designer also said basically her hair was done the way it was so they could tactically deploy her bangs in order to make her even cuter when they needed to.
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>>151640891
Cocona said no to love hotel fun. Clearly she wanted to get married first.
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>>151640635
My girlfriend Yayaka is so cool
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>>151640978
they played us like a fiddle
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>>151640978
>her hair was done the way it was so they could tactically deploy her bangs in order to make her even cuter when they needed to.

How does she keep getting more perfect?
When will it end
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>>151634444
we should have a weekly thread
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>>151641011
Okay anon confess, which one are you?
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>>151641056
This cute one on the left.
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>>151641028
Same with intentionally keeping the pure illusions vague in the way they related to characters. The intended effect was the kind of speculation we had here every week.
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>>151641046
Flip Flap Fridays
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>>151640978
>so they could tactically deploy her bangs in order to make her even cuter when they needed to
LITERALLY tacticute, I want my S2 with her.
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>>151637313
>>Salt became a university lecturer as disguise and to make a living.
What does he teach?
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which character needed more fanart
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>>151641240
Probably something like signal theory.

>>151641285
Sayuri and Senpai.
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>>151641285
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>>151641285
Cockona
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>>151641240
How to make friends and lose your waifu
How to abduct children
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>>151641240
Chemistry.
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>>151640003
>Mostly Oshiyama's idea to put Dragonball and Fist of the North Star elements into episode 3

So it took elements from both mad max and fist of the North Star then. Not one or the other.
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>>151641285
Yuyu.
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>>151641328
I don't know if anyone has noted all this before, but I just did:
>Yayaka has the same hair as the sandy semen demon (blonde with pink)
>their amorphous shards manifest in the same place
>Sandy exists in the Mad Maxian world of episode 3, Yayaka first transformed into her flapper-form in that same world
>Yayaka has wires, Sandy has tentacles
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>>151641139
Friday Flap Fliping
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>>151641285
Senpai definitely
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>>151641514
>SaYayaka literally canon
I'm okay with this.
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>>151641285
Cocona. Not enough fluffy fanart.
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>>151641647
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>>151640213
>he likes Papika for her innocence, pureness and integrity

>It makes him think wouldn't it be nice if I could keep such a pure heart as an adult. She is kind of an ideal figure.
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>>151641794
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>>151641794
Cocona really is cute though in her own useless way.
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>>151641514
>Sayuri is a depraved bislut
I can't believe i'm okay with this.
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>>151641883
Are you that anon who played Cocona ping pong several days ago?
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>>151640213
Nice. I completely agree with this.
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>>151641996
Don't forget she is into BDSM. Jitsuni subarashii.
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>>151641966
She is the cutest and most beautiful.
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>>151641046
Please don't turn this into a general.
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>>151641996
It's either that or philandering with the corner of her desk.
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Oh yeah almost forgot, happy new year from the east you beautiful flappers you.
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>>151641883
>ywn sniff Cocona's fluffy hair

>>151641966
>useless
She's literally the catalyst for the whole show.
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>>151642086
Happy New Year cunt
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>>151642013
Nope, not me.

>>151642109
Cocona's fluffy hair is the best.
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>>151642109
Yeah, I just mean she is kind of naive and not a good fighter.
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>>151642013
Hollo!
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Lads, I have decided that Cocona-chan is going to be my first fap of 2017.
In all honestly, she deserves it for being so beautiful and an overall sweetheart.
The moment midnight arrives, Cocona and I are going to set off our own private fireworks on bed. I already have champagne and all sorts of goodies for that precious moment when we consummate our love.
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>>151642333
Godspeed, you disgusting creature.
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Papika
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Am I the only one who thinks the anklet thing was originally intended to be more significant?
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>>151642333
Most excellent taste.
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>>151642157
>>151642317
You are gentlemen with excellent taste
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>>151642433
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>>151642333
I chuckled.
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>>151642475
DELETE
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>>151642333
She's a lucky girl, anon.
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>>151642475
Ffs
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>>151642429
Probably. Really the only big deal about it is that it was originally made by the KKK for a whole different purpose and not Flip Flap.
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>>151642386
Might as well repost this too:
https://streamable.com/kc5ea
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>>151642333
The director didn't want her in a het relationship. You wouldn't want to upset Oshiyama, would you?
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>>151642475
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>>151642556
Where in that anon's post does it say he's a guy?
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I want to marry Papika.
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>>151642475
Ruined.
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>>151642475
DE.. DELET THIS!
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>>151640882
That must be why the characters had such spot-on jungian types too.
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>>151642641
>he's a guy
>he's
>calling out someone else's presumptuousness whilst being presumptuous in the same vein
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>>151642641
girls have another onomatopoeia for it
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>>151642537
I can't unsee the unbirthing imagery here.

>>151642641
>fap
>not schlick
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>>151642641
Femanons are a myth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvMV21tXqBY
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>>151642537
カジカジ カジカジ
くんくん くんくん
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>>151642779
But don't forget we're also all little girls.
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>>151642813
I'm a little green rabbit actually.
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>>151642793
Did anyone else notice that Mimi's womb/vagina basically became a black hole

And that mimi and papika flew into it?

What does that tell you?
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What an awful ending, this show was literally a waste of time.
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>>151642796
That better be a doujin where cocona get's ganged by a platoon of papikas
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>>151642793
kek
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>>151642855
dual wield unbirthing
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>>151642853
>little
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I kind of get the feeling that if they had just stopped producing episodes after six, took a six week break, and then resumed production, the ending and final arc would have been a million times better-- AOAT tier.
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>>151642919
yeah, really feeling THAT
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>>151642754
>>151642769
I don't know about you but me and my friends all just say fap when we're talking about masturbation from years of 4chan use even though it's supposed to refer to dicks.
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>>151642970
I think they just got exhausted. This kind of work can take a lot out of you.

I think it's probably an actual brain chemical that gets depleted.
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>>151640891
Oshiyama is shaping up to be a great yuribro.
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>>151642919
If they had actually taken a break and not produced episodes, nothing would have changed. They were pretty well ahead in the beginning, but that quality takes time to produce.
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>>151642855
Furthermore, what happens afterwards is intentionally obscured? (Cocona just wakes up in some god awful "it was all just a dream!" world)

I think it might have been meant as a set up for S2-- they weren't out of PI yet.
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>>151643054
But being exhausted also hurts your productivity immensely.
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>>151639981
>Cocona rapes all the Papikas
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>>151642779
You definitely haven't seen the Yuri on Ice threads
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>>151643054
I get the feeling now based on the interviews we've had that with Yuniko was too slow writing the script for the later episodes or they weren't happy with what she did write and the changes took too long so they got the other writer but that already put them behind schedule for the 2nd half. You can't exactly animate until you have the script finalised of course.
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>>151638758
Good Mimi was such a qt.
>>
Looking back at the threads that I missed, I'm glad and surprised of how good we had it considering the amount of threads we had and how active they were.

The most transparent and abundant shitposts were about the sales numbers, which tells you that shitposters didn't have enough ammunition during the season. But it's sad that sales number are now considered bragging rights, even more so than previous years, and they completely eclipse the actual content of any show. Kind of ironic considering that one of /a/'s mantra is that Japan has shit taste.

Besides that, we had pretty cozy threads if we take into account our size.
I'm just very proud of you, anons. I thought I was going to be all alone watching FliFla but you were all here with me ;_;
Happy new year and may you flip your favorite FliFlas' flaps as much as you want!

ps I LOVE LOVE love love love OLEV Yuyu's butt!
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>>151643201
Happy new year anon, and good taste.
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>>151643163
>I get the feeling now based on the interviews we've had that with Yuniko was too slow writing the script for the later episodes or they weren't happy with what she did write and the changes took too long so they got the other writer but that already put them behind schedule for the 2nd half.

I wonder how it would turn out with Yuniko as the whole thing. Starting at episode 7 they clearly wanted to go more character focused instead of adventures of two girls and I wonder how well Yuniko would handle that. The new writer didn't do a very good job in my opinion
>>
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>>151642386
Stolen. Thank you.

Is there a CocoPapi one like this?
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>>151643262
I'm also really curious to know how the ending would have played out with Yuniko, I have a feeling it would have given better closure.
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>>151643289
I can make one. It'll be a few minutes.
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>>151642386
I wanna be a cute innocent dyke ;-;
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>Gaijins said from the beginning of the first episode "flying surf board lesbian", but in the end, it really became like that
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>>151643115
>implying Yaoi on Ice isn't the ultimate proof that any femanons are definitively male anons RPing
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>>151643351
Did Flip Flappers have a larger than average western audience?
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>>151643351
W-what's this about gaijins?
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>>151643384
Or maybe a larger proportional western audience? Were there hardcore fans like this in japan?
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>>151634360
Yayaka a cute
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>>151643351
Remember how people were saying 'Sayuri is Salt's sextoy!'? See what happened
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>>151643327
Goddess bless you anon.
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>>151643448
We need to be careful of what we meme into existence.
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>>151643427
It kills me seeing this happen to poor Yayaka. Yes, she accepted defeat gracefully, but you know she's dying inside.
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>>151643493
She'll move in with Sayuri and the two have the kinkiest lesbo experiences you can have on this side of Pure Illusion, all is calm all is bright.
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>>151643493
She's still young, she'll find another girl some day.
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>>151643448

Don't forget eating Cocona's placenta.
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>>151643474
If only we had memed Cockona into existence.
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What was the purpose of Nyunyu?
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>>151643540
>"Yayaka..."
Nice Yayaka wet dream.
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>>151643584
fapbait
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>>151643584
Making my dick hard.
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>>151643351
>Japanese just think its close friends nobody thinks yuri is romantic over there

Yeah right.
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>>151643637
Did it work?
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>>151643584
To have no purpose.
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>>151643584
She's Chekhov, she shoots the Thomasson
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>>151643540
This says Yayaka in the corner.
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>>151643693
I'm aware. the pictures tweet also mentioned something about a YayaCoco Doujin.https://twitter.com/1104kazami/status/815190212473040897
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>>151643693

What did you expect.
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>>151643584
So I don't think we ever found out who Mimi's child was?
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>>151643584
Director wanted a character with twin tails so character designer made one. That's what the interview says. The lewd costume was the character designers idea.
>>
welks
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>>151643789
>The lewd costume was the character designers idea.
Bless him (her?).
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>>151643787
Wasn't it implied to be Sayuri?
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Somebody actually cosplayed Yayaka.
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>>151643787
We are all Mimi's child.
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>>151643827
>>>
> Anonymous 12/31/16(Sat)06:35:46 No.151643827 ▶
>>>151643789
>>The lewd costume was the character designers idea.
>Bless him (her?).
him
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>>151643878
Needs more forehead.
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>>151643760
>https://twitter.com/1104kazami/status/815190212473040897
people to stop making YayaCoco stuff after Yayaka lost.
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>>151643838
Yes, it was Sayuri, which is revealed off screen and why she acts all embarrassed around Salt. Who wouldn't be embarrassed around their dad who they never realized was their dad before?
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>>151643878
Needs more bitchiness.
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>>151643923

Not recognizing a hardcore YayaCocofag when you see one.
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>>151643878
>no creambox
0/10
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>>151643936
Wait, the baby was Salt's!?
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>>151644077
No, that's just a crazy fan theory, don't pay it any mind
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>>151644077
>Our daughter
Learn to read anon
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One last post to end it all
https://wavemotioncannon.com/2016/12/31/weekly-motion-cannon-flip-flappers-episode-13/
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>>151644178
It's not fair that Papika gets to smell Cocona and I don't.
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>>151644209
>Cocona doesn't have the fragment anymore
>Papika still like to sniff her, confirming it was her smell she liked and not Mimi's
It's cute how they turned what is usually a perverted anime cliche into something heartwarming.
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>>151644155
She obviously meant good Mimi's and evil Mimi's daughter.
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>>151644240
Fuck off shilling your "serious criticism"
>>
When do the BD sales get released?
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>>151644240
>The sporadic placement of plot points runs against the flow of any potential visual metaphor. Thus it prevents the derivation of emotions and the art experienced on a visceral level. The tickling that we felt in our subconscious was put away

Holy shit what a pretentious fucking fart sniffer. It's a fucking cartoon.
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>>151644178
>hand between her legs

Pure sex.
>>
Voting on 2ch AOTY going to end soon. I wonder how Flip Flappers does. Looks like re:zero will do well though.
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>>151644479
>Looks like re:zero will do well though.
eew
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>>151644432
What living human fucking writes like this holy shit.
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>>151644561
One who wants to sound intelligent so people think his opinion is somehow worth anything.
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>>151643893
guy fieri makes anime?
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>>151644432
>emotions and the art experienced on a visceral level
It read like one of those PRs for cinematic "videogames".
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>>151637313
>>What is proto-KKK?
>>It was a small lab which was not evil at first
Killing children is not evil?
Sasuga nips.
>>
What would your henshin form be? What would it look like/
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>>151644707

This explains why AB-chan was forgotten. It was no biggie.
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>>151644707
They never stated kids in the original Asclepius died, the scientists were asking Saltdad whether they should prepare to replace Papika with the next subject once it seemed her impedance with Mimi wouldn't go low enough, it didn't seem to me like they were going to kill her, I'm assuming they'd just kick her out.
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>>151644707
Children are overrated.
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>>151644877
A fat, smelly old man who eats way too much taco bell and doesn't move from his La-Z-Boy recliner.
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>>151644904
Although I'm sure there may have been casualties in cases where Mimi tried to actually go to PI with them and they couldn't bear it, but I wouldn't call that the same as KKK killing them.
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>>151644707
They were orphans. Nobody cares.
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>>151644877
Pure Kick.
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>>151644877

PURE EDGE
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>>151644987
>couldn't bear it
I see what you did there.
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>>151643289
And it's done.
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>>151645565
Good work.
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>>151645565
>>151642386

I can't look at these too long because I remember all these great moments in the show and my eyes tear up because we'll never get more of this.
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>biggest anime e-celeb praised YoI for its progressive history making status for the LGBT community in 5 minutes and then immediately dismissed Flip Flappers as yuribait pandering because no kissu in 10 seconds
Loving every laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKLKDkWyqg&t=609s
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>>151646147
Why are you watching this?
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>>151646147
Fuck off.
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>>151646147
Why does anyone give half a monkey's fuck about these retards?
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>>151640891
So the plot twist was that yuniko held the yuri back and we probably would have had fingerblasting without her influence?
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>we are literally at the point where people are unironically shilling the activities of attention whores talking about inane shit on youtube and everywhere else on /a/

By next year people are going to be candidly linking reaction videos and reaction streams.
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>>151644479
We got 15th place
>>151646163
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>>151646328
Apparently Yuniko tutored the director about yuri, what to do and what not to do. I wish he had ignored her advice more often about what not to do, because Yuniko probably would have made some Papikas boys.
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>>151646147
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>>151646348
I can't believe Ping Pong Girls and Saiki are higher
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>>151634444
Flip Flap Fridays will happen, don't worry
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So why is papika a baby fucker?
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>>151646348
15th isn't too bad considering hardly anyone seemed to watch it over there.

>>151646348
Ping Pong Girls is pretty good.
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>>151646438
Meant to link this >>151646638 to you. I am surprised garbage like Keijo and ERASED is so high really.
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>>151646438

I can't believe Keijo got 242 votes considering it only sold like 700 BDs.
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>>151646513
She's not. She is a girl who is the same age as Cocona, who happened to regain her memories of her past life.
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I just watched the final episode. I thought everything wrapped up nicely, but the only thing that bothers me is we don't get to see Salt and Cocona reconnect after her return. Also Nyu was totally pointless.

Did you like the ending?
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>>151646806
Liked it. Mostly people seemed to based on strawpolls that were taken at the time.
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>>151646806
I liked the ending. I am hoping for an epilogue OVA or something that gives us a bit more PapiCoco and some Salt reconnected with his Daughter moments.
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>>151646773
Meme status
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>>151646806
Some father and daughter interaction is really missing, his smile from episode 2 still irritates me.
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>Papikana was only 19 here

When are her boobs going to start rapidly growing?
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>>151646757
Well, for starters Keijo was the only anime with an actual touching ending.
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>>151646895
Everyone loves butts.
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>>151646990
he has another one at the very end when Papika and Cocona finally make it back from PI
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>>151646994
Will Cocona start letting her hair grow now?
Will Papika cut her own hair?
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>>151647019
>the only
No, idiot.
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>>151647055
They're perfect just the way they are. I've warmed up to short hair Papika though.
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>>151646990
Does he attend lectures in this outfit? No wonder Sayuri-cosplaying-weirdo fell for him
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>>151647348
Heh, I'm watching it too anon.
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>FlipFlappers will be forever in 2016
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>>151638852
>>I'm not sure if I have a commitment to yuri but I felt like I broke Yuniko's rule of "not overdoing it" in ep 7 when I demanded Kojima not to draw Papito and Papiya as boys because I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.

What the fuck Yunico, you were supposed to be the yurifag not Oshyiama
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>>151646851
>>151646806
Here are some of the last few polls from FliFla threads.
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>>151647407
The student has surpassed the master.
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>>151646990
Is Cocona even aware that Salt is her father at the end of the series?
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>>151647541
So Oshiyama's padawan will get give us on-screen kissu?
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>>151636389
Can you link to his twitter? Missed it
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I want to stay in these threads, but there is really nothing else to discuss at this point. I am gonna miss you guys, this was the best time I have ever had on /a/, and I have been here for 10 years. Flip Flappers was a masterpiece in my opinion. It wasn't perfect, it had its flaws, but that didn't take away from the overall greatness of the show, or the satisfaction and heart-melting feelings I got from seeing these two dorks get together and love each other. Even now, the only thing I want is more Flip Flappers. Its been a good time guys...

as a going away present, can someone reply with that fanart of futa cocona and mimi on the boat? I forgot to save it
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>>151647688
https://imgur.com/a/BAxUI
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>>151638852
>Oshiyama surpassing Yunico in her own field
Is this the birth of an ultimate yurifag?
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>>151647821
he's o/u/r g/u/y
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>>151647821
He said he's not sure about his commitment to yuri, only het from now on
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>>151647782
Thanks anon! I can leave these threads in peace now. Lets have another adventure sometime.
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>>151647821
How old is he? inb4 50 years
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>>151647989
Can't find it anywhere.
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>>151647688

I feel like people haven't really analyzed the last few episodes due to all the shitposting. We haven't even scratched the surface of all the symbolism. Like, I found a blog post on Twitter the other day that pointed that the school painting first appears in the context of Cocona not being able to decide which path to take. And, surprise, surprise, in the last episode it's revealed to be Mimi floating there and not knowing which path to take. This anime is pottery, man.
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>>151648086

Is this a new years miracle? coincidentally I took this screenshot on 11:33pm
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>>151647688
Pretty much this. Best anime and best threads in a very long time. I'll miss you all ;_;

>>151647782
Interesting how it went from futa to "normal" /u/ at the end. I guess you can't fight against the OTP.
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>>151648110
No, you're just forcing shit because you can't let go of this terrible anime for some reason.

Like half the people in this thread.

>Best anime and best threads
Insanity.
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>>151648187
But the threads were GOAT.
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Just watched the final four episodes today, i quite liked Mimi's backstory. I really like the idea of her being a reality-bender who fell in love with Salt and had a child with him. Also, her "turn peopel into flowers" shit is cool.
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>>151648110
>Replies 333 Images 111
>31 th December
>333+111 = 444 , 4x3 = 12 = December
FUUUCK
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I... I wrote a song for Mimi.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A FAT CHICK
THEN I REALIZED YOU WERE PREGNANT
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUNNY IF YOUR BABY DIED
SO I KICKED YOU IN THE STOMACH

I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
HA HA HA YOUR BABY'S DEAD

THERE WERE NO STAIRS TO THROW YOU DOWN
THERE WAS NO ROOF TO THROW YOU OFF
THERE WAS NO COAT HANGERS AROUND
SO I KICKED YOU IN THE STOMACH

I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
I KICKED YOU, YOUR BABY'S DEAD
HA HA HA YOUR BABY'S DEAD

I hope she'll like it.
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>>151648267
>Also, her "turn peopel into flowers" shit is cool.
It's nice to look at, but I can imagine it would hurt like shit and be really disgusting body horror if it happens to yourself.
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>>151648086
Probably in his mid 30s.
Some anon found a drawing he allegedly did in 1987 that could have been done by a 6-7y/o kid.
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>>151648395
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>>151647821
>>151638852
>kick away Yuniko just for breaking her rule of "not overdoing it" in ep 7
>there was barely any overdoing yuri scene after that
he's such a tough guy
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Gonna miss you guys. I'll keep drawing Flip Flappers from time to time and hopefully finish that goddamn doujinshi

Let's all have fun in the threads in the future for the OST release and BD releases.
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>>151648395
And those were his last words before he turned into a flowerpot.
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>>151648467
First BD next friday. Let's see what they did to 1 and 2. Maybe they made them worse.
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>>151648187
Spotted the tsundere.

>>151648467
Keep up the good work Futanon. Also what's so strange about Papikana being 19?
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>>151648453
Yuniko got a little upset over her zombies and not over episode 7, you can stop memening now
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>>151638852
>Jungian psychology
>/a/ was right all along
That's really unexpected.
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>>151648625
there is nothing strange. ITS WONDERFUL.

Niggas can't complain about age gap anymore because its only like 4 years.
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>>151648625
Nothing's wrong with it, I just thought the age gap might've been a little bigger. I think it's hilarious we all thought it would be.

Now it's basically just Sailor Moon.
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>>151642333
Papika, plz
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>>151648727
Well. Everyone just assumed they were 25 for some reason and then added another 14 years.
In the end it was like Gunbuster aging thanks to PI magic.
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>>151648864
To be fair, I mostly based my guesses of their ages on Salt's change. I know anime girls stay young forever. His growth within 5 years was pretty drastic then.
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Kossori socchi o nozoitara,
socchi mo kocchi o nozoiteta.
Hitomi no oku ochiteiku,
koko wa doko nanoka naa?
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>>151648981
The new writer did a shitty job explaining this. I know muh exposition, but simple stuff like dates could've put everything into perspective. Just a "5 years later" or something.
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>>151648981
He was getting into puberty, of course he would change drastically.
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>>151647989
this image the director drew was dated 昭和62年 which is 1987.
below that is looks like 5才4月, which is 5 years old 4 months.
he's probably 34 now
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>>151649116
Seems like he always liked flowers.
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>>151649075
Their exact ages weren't really that important. One of them could have just mentioned something like, "After 5 years you're finally a real scientist, Salt."
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>>151649116
Looks like Voynich Manuscript drafts, good thing he labeled them tanpopo.
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>>151639763
That was Bu-chan. Cocona is a shitty owner.
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>>151649238
Bu-chanxUexkull adventure OVA when?
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>>151649162
Exactly. And then also cut nonsense like the Papika mindrape scene and pad the beginning of 13 a bit. Just show how Cocololi gets of the boat so the viewer actually understands that this was supposed to be her entering PI in her dreams.
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>>151649238
>grass is everywhere around
>still need someone to get food
Uexkull is a huge manchild
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The Yayaka/Uexkull thing kinda came out of nowhere, Nyunyu would be a better consolation prize
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>>151649314
True, Nyunyu is a better pet.
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>>151637313
>Sayuri was his student.
Literally Reina

>Cocona wandered into the limbo area in her "dreams" and found Papika
So had she not been in PI the entire time?
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>>151646147
>That cute girls not kissing block
Okay, I laughed. But you really shouldn't care about what youtubers say, even more if their main argument for why a show is good is "it was progressive".
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>>151649301
He's just high maintenance. Only wants that fancy grass.
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>>151640733
CUTE CUTE CUUUUUTE
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So if I am understanding the OCR correctly, Cocona wasn't lost in Pure Illusion, only Papika? Cocona has been with the KKK since Mimi burst into treats, and Papika ended up accidentally stranded in a 'limbo' plain of PI, where time was unstable and she basically de-aged.

But Cocona's Dreams weren't just visions, she actually could visit PI in her dreams, and just didn't remember most of it. the following is speculation based on the above confirmed information That meeting we saw she 'freed' Papika from the tree, and hence from 'limbo' and at some point after that, she woke up in the real world (possibly the same spot she disappeared, which was near the flower field), got found by Salt because he visits/scavenges the ruins of the research facility, and then was raised with Flip Flap.

Is this correct?
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>>151649538
Sounds about right. To bad you need a guide to get this when it was the writers job to explain, or at least hint at this within the show.
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>>151649434
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>>151649538
Exactly.

>>151641046
Please don't. Weekly threads are always, without any shred of doubt, shitposting circlejerk centrals.
If you want to make a thread once in a while go and do it, but don't start with the scheduled shit.
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>>151649611
No you don't. I got the exact same conclusion before I even get to read the interviews.
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>>151649611
It was shown, not told. My own speculah was actually pretty close, and the differences between my speculah and the truth of what actually happened isn't great enough to change or alter any important story elements or their implications.

I still would have liked more episodes though. I am hoping for an OVA.
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>>151649314
Maybe it was her colleague at KKK, I figure.
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>>151649651
agree with this anon. I love love LOVE the show, but scheduled threads always end up turning into absolute ass. Just make a new thread when new merchandise or BDs or whatever comes out or happens. Or maybe if you make some neat OC.

Purposeless threads for dead shows always end up creating cancer.
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>>151649538
Sounds right.
I wonder if having PI dreams is what they meant here. I think it would explain why the KKK robo granny would always ask about Cocona's dreams. They knew there was a chance she could access PI that way just like Mimi could.
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>>151637313
>19
FUCK
SHE'S NOT EVEN A CAKE
HOLY FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHY THE FUCK

FUCK
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>I am the Flip Flap, eater of worlds!
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>>151649854
Dreams accessing PI also matches up with Jungian psychology, Jung was always big on the connections Dreams have to the psyche.

Also, remember Cocona's line from early on: "I have heard of lucid dreams before..."

Her first response to PI in episode 1 was thinking it was a lucid dream.
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>>151649998
Grandma also loved inquiring about Cocona's dreams

Also a fucking robot was the only parental figure Cocona ever had, that's funny
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>>151649709
I unfortunately didn't, but that might be just me being dumb.

>>151649718
I see where you're coming from, but I feel like the dream actually being Cocona in PI and her having these dreams since childhood needed more buildup. Sure the potential for speculah is an appeal of the show, but to reach a wider audience you have to explain your big reveal everything build up to a bit better. All I'm saying is, that showing that would've been more interesting than those two blob monsters, which could've been scrapped for a less anti-climatic fight against the ep8 mech.
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>>151649998
I was just about to post this anon.
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>>151649538
Yes. And it's also in line with Cocona often meeting Mimi in her dreams.
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What was the purpose of this character other then giving the otaku to fap to?
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>>151650124
Unfortunately Cocona's dreams didn't get too much explanation by the end of the show. We do see her dream about the dick tree, which stands out because its a dream without Mimi. Maybe if they had another minute or two in ep 10 for Mimi to explain that Cocona has the power to access PI through her dreams.
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>>151650412
Some meta joke
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>>151650412
Genetically engineered red her herring Thomasson firing a Chekhov's gune.
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Its me or hibikek and flip flappers had literally the same ending.
>Cocona searchs for Papika
>Kumiko search for Asuka
>Finds Papika in the same place that they first met in the first episode
>Finds Papika in the same place that they first met in the first episode
>I was searching for you
>Confesion
I just saw both episodes one after another and the similarities are uncanny
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>>151650412
Cute eyebrows.
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>>151649993
>Cocomimi will never step on your balls
Why live?
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>>151650478
What the fuck
>Cocona has brown eyes
>Papika has blue eyes
>Kumiko has brown eyes
>Asuka has blue eyes
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>>151650478
Except hibikek had 20 minutes of literally nothing and flashbacks.
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>>151650412
Chekhov's self-insert
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>>151650412
>asks for the purpose of the character
>while mentioning the purpose of the character
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>>151650462
Just needs one minute. A ~10 seconds cut of Cocololi in her bed. And the rest her getting off the boat and walking to the dick tree.
The wasted potential is maddening. Such a scene would be great.
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>>151650412
I want to fiddle her cunny unironically.
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>>151650478
Flip Flappers ends with a happy yuri couple flying through the sky while Hibike ends with a whisper in the wind.
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>>151650478
It's almost like they are both just as bad.
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>>151650478
It was a Hibike reference.
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>>151650624
Yeah, thats the main diference
While ff ends with a happy note of cocona and papika togheter going out of pure ilusion, hibike ends with asuka leaving the band forever, with a bittersweet see you later, because even if they can met when they want, she wont be part of the band again
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>>151650619
Too puffy.
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>>151650619
>we will never see Sayuri doing martial arts
She could train with Yayaka.
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>>151650563
Wait a fucking minute
>Cocona and Papika are girls
>Kumiko and Asuka are girls
What the fuck, are we getting too deep?
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>>151650679
Oh it's you again.
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>>151650563
>Papika is older than cocona
>Asuka is older than kumiko
Last episode was a hibike reference
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>>151638852
>drew inspirations from animal behavior studies
yayakat and puppyka confirmed
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I think the mistake that people seem to be making in this thread is taking what happens in the show literally when it's an abstract work. Not everything is spoon fed to you, and that's a good thing, because it leaves things open to the interpretation of the viewer. aka start thinking about things on your own instead of having everything explained to you, it's lazy as hell.

I found a really good interpretation on reddit, which blew my mind a little bit:

Cocona's mother and father most likely divorced due Cocona's mother pursuing another woman. That was the calamity, the tragedy that colorfully was portrayed in the show In Cocona's perception that essentially was represented via two versions of her mother due to her perception of her mother having split into two, essentially taking away her "ideal" mother she knew, while her father grew distant.

What's more, during this hard time, due to the process of adolescence and questioning your own sexuality, Cocona found herself attracted to another girl in school, which made her question whether she herself is just a repeat of her mother's path, walking the same path, becoming her mother. This conflict of identity, mixed in with trauma from her parents divorce was essentially represented through childish imagination of pure illusion world. What we saw through the show was Cocona's subconscious view of the world, as a try to reaffirm who she is, as she is growing up into adulthood, to find her own identity.

You can read the whole thing here
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/5kwpc5/spoilers_flip_flappers_episode_13_discussion_final/dbrobf8/
I highly recommend it
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I just woke up, holy fuck I missed everything
>Papikana only 19 (hot damn!)
>Jung confirmed
>Sayuri is Salt's student (probably 10+ year age gap)
Jesus christ. I don't even know how to process all this. Our speculah about the symbolism was right, but at the same time Papicake isn't even a fucking cake.

Also
>confirmed that PIs are based on characters but no hints as to which related to who
Fuck. This kind of shit will keep me up at night
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>>151650712
Wow, thanks to your post I realized something
Salt maybe is Cocona dad
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>>151650712
>hibike is a chinese cartoon
>flip flappers is a chinese cartoon
Guys this is fucking spooky. An unmarked van just pulled up outside my house. I think th
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>>151650895
We get it. You can stop now.
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>>151650846
>this is the kind of person that likes Flip Flappers
It explains a lot about these threads, actually.
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>>151650857
>Flip flappers main character is a human
>Hibike main character is a human
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>>151650895
Anon. ANON. ANOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
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>>151650412
I need some based anon to explain this scene in depth, in our last thread. Please!
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Please just nobody respond to 151650846
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>>151650846
>I found a really good interpretation on reddit
>You can read the whole thing here
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>>151650962
meant to reply this
>>151650895
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>>151651000
You forgot the meme arrows friend. Here, >>151650846.
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>>151650846
Please kill yourself.
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But what is pure illusion?

What was Salt's dad's group trying to accomplish

Whose brain was inside Bu-chan

How did COCONA end up in the clutches of the robotic granny in the first place and why did they bother waiting until the second half of the show to do anything with her?

What was the purpose of the painting?

Why did the second half of the show have so much QUALITY?
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>>151650981
Nyunyu is cute.
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>>151650960
You should be less obvious with your shitpost. They stank so much that I can easily figure out which posts are yours.
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>>151650712
>Cocona and Kumiko are two passive initially aimless characters becoming more active
You can't make this shit up
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>mimi was a teen mom
I guess that helps explain why Cocona did not have great parents.
Also, Salt was raised in a medical lab, you'd think he'd know about condoms, or how to get Mimi some birth control.
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>>151651077
>Why did the second half of the show have so much QUALITY?
Because they ran out of budget obviously. It obviously was not time constrains.
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>>151650695
3hz confirmed for bros.
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>>151650848
I always was in the camp that the age gap yuri wasn't a real thing so it fits in line with my speculation. Especially about how Papika would relate to the memories. I was one of the people always saying that she wouldn't really view them as hers from her current life.
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>>151642537
I listened to this for like 20 minutes before I realized it was looping and not just really long
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>>151651078
Nyunyu is also sexy.
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>>151651077
>But what is pure illusion?
Read the thread
>What was Salt's dad's group trying to accomplish
Read the thread
>Whose brain was inside Bu-chan
Irrelevant
>How did COCONA end up in the clutches of the robotic granny
Read the threads one month ago
>What was the purpose of the painting?
Intentionally left for your imagination
>Why did the second half of the show have so much QUALITY?
Yuniko fucked up the schedule.
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>>151650846
This all could have been avoided if you simply put reddit in spoiler tags
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>>151651077
>But what is pure illusion?
AIDEA WARUDO
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>>151651119
He was just a horny teen, no education can prepare you for this.
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>>151651133
19 is still an age gap
The thing about rebirth just seems like a stupid copout. I could understand it if there was a legitimate 30+ year gap even though it's a super cheap way of handling it (especially since it wasn't done by the story itself) but 19 vs 14 is just a 5 year gap, most marriages have a larger age gap than that, it's practically nothing. Why even bother handwaving the gap if it was such a trivial one?
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>>151651168
No it could not.
That theory itself is extremely stupid.
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>>151651119
How's he gonna explain that one to his dad
>Hey pops, I need some rubber and a couple morning after pills
>And why ever would you need any of that, son?
>... research
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>>151650846
I bet you were the one that told reddit about the card
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>>151651219
Pretty sure it was supposed to be the last big twist of the show, aside from the "hyper-realistic" PI. It failed to be explained in the show though in my opinion.
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>>151651219
It wasn't handwaved though, there is legitimate reason for it in the show. Papika tried to stop Mimi, got caught up in a fucked up limbo Pure Illusion and that caused her to deage. Just like we always speculated.
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>>151651219
The age gap is still 19. Papika has 19 extra years worth of memories in her head, even if she doesn't consider them her own.
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>>151651302
It wasn't directly explained in any clear fashion but we came up with that interpretation of it ourselves after Papicake was first shown.
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I love love love YYK!
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>>151651306
Why did Papikana get caught in de-aging limbo while Cocona, who she was holding in her arms, didn't?

Why did regaining her memories of her entire 19 year life conveniently keep her mentally at the age of a 14 year old instead of returning her to the mental level she had at 19?

It was just a plot-convenient copout to both explain contrived amnesia (which was shit, by the way) and pretend like they were still the same age despite all of the stupid shit that lead to contrived amnesia.
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>>151651257
He doesn't have to ask his dad. I'm sure there must have been some pharmacologists around that had access to this stuff.
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>>151642386
>>151651365
I guess we need one with Cocona now.
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>>151651365
Never knew one could love a fictional character this much. Based best girl.
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>>151651418
No, we need one of Yuyu.
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Yayabitch lovers fuck off with your afterthought loser.
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>>151651391
>Why did regaining her memories of her entire 19 year life conveniently keep her mentally at the age of a 14 year old instead of returning her to the mental level she had at 19?
Because they were different memories to her, she said herself that she became a different person. Which makes sense, she started a new life with her own memories. The memories of her 19 years old self didn't override her new ones.
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>>151651450
This. And then one of Iroha.
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>>151650857
Silly, Salt is her big brother
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>>151651543
Salt is siscon?
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>>151651002
I figured nobody would read the huge wall of text (it's too big so i'll have to spread it across a couple replies) but I'll post all of it then:

So just as I guessed we got Cocona reaffirming her identity and seeing herself as herself(instead of a repeat of her own mother), which leads to the perception of her world changing revealing the actual real world, with the world of Cocona having been pure illusion too.
A lot of this show is about perception, as the reference to Jakob Von Uexküll hints at. Uexküll was german Biologist most famous for his works on how organisms perceive their surroundings. From the verys tart that felt like a huge hint that what we saw in the show was Cocona's perception of reality and the way she perceived her issues and problems in life and the way her brain processed that. Likewise that is also hinted via Iro's plot and the way Iro's perception of her world would shift depending on her moods and how she felt.
I guess if we are to view the events we saw in pure illusion via perception of Real World that was revealed in the end for us, I guess this is how the story went if we separate Cocona's perception of the events:
Cocona's mother and father most likely divorced due Cocona's mother pursuing another woman. That was the calamity, the tragedy that colorfully was portrayed in the show In Cocona's perception that essentially was represented via two versions of her mother due to her perception of her mother having split into two, essentially taking away her "ideal" mother she knew, while her father grew distant.

>>151651263
I don't post on there, and I'm not sure why people are being such babies about that website anyway.
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>>151651529
Iroha deserved better.
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>>151651543
Like this family needed to get any fucking weirder
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>>151617520
I would buy a nendoroids, artbooks, storyboards, I would fucking buy frames. Shame this series doesn't have any.

BDs are just too much for me.
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>>151651391
>Why did Papikana get caught in de-aging limbo while Cocona, who she was holding in her arms, didn't?

Papikana wasn't supposed to jump into it so she was unexpected obviously. Cocona was supposed to be there and accounted for already. Mimi didn't go into a de-aging limbo either. It only happened to Papikana because she wasn't supposed to be part of that at all.
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>>151651577
What's more, during this hard time, due to the process of adolescence and questioning your own sexuality, Cocona found herself attracted to another girl in school, which made her question whether she herself is just a repeat of her mother's path, walking the same path, becoming her mother. This conflict of identity, mixed in with trauma from her parents divorce was essentially represented through childish imagination of pure illusion world. What we saw through the show was Cocona's subconscious view of the world, as a try to reaffirm who she is, as she is growing up into adulthood, to find her own identity.
Thus what we effectively saw through the show was the embodiment of that inner conflict of Cocona, the stream of consciousness that represented the real world problems and psychological dilemmas in a colorful childhood vision of "pure illusion".
We saw Cocona ponder whether she is someone now that her parents were swept from under her feet. What is her place in the world what she wants of it. And the more she felt rejected by the world the more chaotic and dangerous her perception of the world got(cyborgs, impostors and all)
We saw Cocona try to process whether she is allowed self expression or has self expression via how Papika challenged her restricted nature, with Papika Cocona and Yayaka essentially embodying the psychological concepts of Id, Ego and Super Ego and Cocona trying to attain emotional and intellectual balance in terms of how she perceives herself.
We saw Cocona question her desires, her sexuality and how it defines who she is or who she could be.
We saw Cocona wonder about the nature of her feelings towards Papika and whether they are okay. What makes Papika into Papika, would her interest be different if Papika was different, etc.
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First reddit tries to ruin our card and now they try to ruin our New Year's party.
Great, just fucking great.
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I'm surprised with all the circlejerking about Studio Pablo, nobody pointed out that episode 13 backgrounds were made by yet another different studio. This guy from Studio Easter is credited for BG art direction:

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/東潤一
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>>151651418
>>151651450
>>151651529
Are guys trying to kill me?
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>>151651617
We saw Cocona wonder how what happened to her family affected her. Whether by getting closer to Papika she is becoming the copy of her mother or whether she is walking her own path. Is she bound by what happened to her parents, is she repeating her mothers mistakes, is she becoming her mother? Or is she walking her own path that her parents approve of in spite of their own mistakes that she is not guilty or responsible for.
We saw her try to process , in a childish idealized way, of what happened to her family and what it means for her now that she is growing up and entering adolescence. After all divorce during puberty can hit hard in terms of how our identity forms. In this case we have been seeing how Cocona is processing everything that has happened around her and inside her in such a time.
In fact if you look back at the show it all lines up in order - we start with Cocona's identity, Cocona trying to proccess the idea of her birth and how desires affect people(episode 2) and it slowly goes back to the issue of her family and comes back to her identity.
Episode 1 Is about Where Cocona IS. What is "Proper" for her. Whether stepping into unknown, breaking the status quo of empty existence worth it.
Episode 2 explores Cocona's desires and Cocona wonders whether she should give in into what she feels, embrace the unknown that she experiences with Papika. Which brings her to wondering about her own Birth and how "The I" That is Cocona came to be(hence the "chase" through the drill gate shaped like a vagina). Her parents divorced but they still made her - the result of their desires. Is that good or bad? Is she just consequence of her own thing?
Episode 3 obviously follows up via guilt trip. Should Cocona be punished for experiencing desires possibly similar to her mothers? Does that make Cocona a "villain" just like her mother in the divorce?
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>>151651668
Episode 4 is more "real" with Cocona slowly shifting towards wondering what Papika means for her if she is not wrong for wanting to be with her.
Episode 5 represents her fears of how the society would handle her attraction, her fear that it might not progress. Its the episode where cocona subconsciously decides to act on her desires and pursue Papika no matter the price.
Episode 6 has Cocona observing the suffering and identity conflict of another classmate as the viewers get to experience Iro's perception of her memories.
Episode 7 Cocona yet again questions the idea of identity and what it means that she is interested in Papika. Her classmate has changed and Cocona is not sure she likes Iro's change in personality but would she still like Papika if Papika was different? What makes Papika her Papika and what makes Cocona into Cocona? What is exactly the feeling and emotion that Cocona feels towards Papika? Cocona Explores that via entertaining different possibilities of Papika existing. Is it truly love? Can it be reasoned away as a sisterly bond or something else? Would it be the same if Papika was male?
Episode 8 deals with her perception of the professor and realization that Yayaka is also important part of her life in the similar way as Papika.
Episode 9 is all about Cocona dealing with that realization and trying to separate and understand what she feels towards Yayaka and what she feels towards Papika.
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This reddit "speculah" attempt is stupid.
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>>151651715
"Speculah" is always reddit shit
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>>151651712
Episode 10-13 now that Cocona is SURE of what she feels towards Papika, she starts to ponder what broke apart her family and whether she is a separate identity from her mother or whether her mothers actions set up Cocona to be a replica of her. By resolving her emotions towards her parents Divorce Cocona attains adulthood and is free from being bound by the past tragedy, free to pursue her own identity, free to pursue Papika because its her own decision. Cocona finally grows up, attaining self and becoming an adult and her own independent identity, learning to accept the real world and exist in real world without hiding within her imagination. Which however does not mean that imagination disappears. You do not need to lose your imagination when you grow up.
Now with this episode, having resolved her identity crisis and established herself as a separate identity from her mother(and whatever happened to their family in the past) Cocona essentially "grew up", entering back into reality and is free to pursue Papika romantically, even though show annoying yet again tries to be too ambiguous there. Of course veering back into childhood fantasies is not something restricted form Adults so there's nothing stopping Cocona from viewing the world in such a colorful fashion again, that's what dreams and imagination are after all. However Cocona is no longer bound by that world or by what happened to her parnets, she is free to be herself, she has liberated herself from her conflicts and identity crisis, achieving adulthood.
Its hard to get a read on this especially with the knowledge that original writer quit after Episode 6, but at least parts of this episode seem to correspond with what was being built up.
Still great ride. Not perfect and some things feel off, but still great.
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>>151634641
>strikes a Kamina pose

Getter Robo* or Gunbuster*
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Someone please make a new thread!
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>>151651655
Everybody was shitting on ep.13 backgrounds.
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>>151651715
I'd hazard it's just the shitposter trying a new tactic.
These walls of preteen prose are more disruptive to read around than actual spam
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>>151651783
There's already one.
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>>151651783
Oh, look, he did.
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>>151651801
>Everybody
I can barely remember any posts even mentioning them. Please don't try represent your opinion as everybody.

>>151651802
They make the thread fucking impossible.
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>>151651838
>literal Reddit post as the new thread
Nope. Let that one die.
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>Last thread on autosage
I know someone will make a new thread, but there really is no point keeping a thread just for the sake of it. Take care of yourselves guys, despite the bumps, it was a fun ride, I'll never forget this experience. Keep Flip Flapping!

Yayaka best girl.
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>>151651715
It is beyond stupid, they ignore the very obvious and intentional Jung and Freud shit and insert a ton of shit not supported by the text. Its like the write nonsense just so others can praise how "educated" they are. That and collect more reddit pokemn cards. Gotta catch them all
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>>151651878
>generalfags
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>>151651783
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>>151651878
It's a pretty transparent attempt of a shitposter to disrupt and stop the conversation.
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>>151651857
Check the archives cunt, there's few posts like these >>151561536
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>>151651801

Bait harder.
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>>151651961
Yeah there were a few posts that is what I am saying. Not "everybody was shitting on the backgrounds" there were a few people saying they weren't very good. Saying everybody makes it sound like it was a huge sticking point for most people but as I said there were a couple of posts.
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>>151651961
>shitposters are now the majority
You have made a great mistake, goof.
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>>151651961

What was wrong with background in that pic?
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>>151652032
To be fair it looks bad.
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>>151652032
Shitposters have always been the majority
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>>151652055
The construction material isn't part of that background, anon.
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>>151650712
>Flip flappers didnt had a kiss
>Hibike didnt had a kiss
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>>151651907
I thought it was a neat explanation. But shit, my bad. Guess you guys can go back to enjoying your generic otaku-bait garbage.
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>reddit thread deleted
Sometimes the mods can be based.
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>>151652104
Flip Flappers had a mutual confession, hand holding, and a luminous. Good enough.
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>>151651655
Really feeling that studio change
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>>151652153
Would you adopt Papika /a/?
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>>151652226
I would, but I'm not allowed to own dogs in my apartment.
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>>151652226
Only if I could gradually acclimatize her to heterosexuality and raise her to be my perfect and loyal spouse by the time she was 19.
I want those miles of Papilegs wrapped around me.
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>>151652311
Stop posting Woody.
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>>151652311
What if Papicake only likes anal?
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>>151652409
Hallelujah
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>>151652311

>footjob fetish doujin with Papika never
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>>151652615
Well, about that.
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Do NOT sexualize my daughter Papika! Or else!
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>>151652409
I would love her even if she had a dick. Papika is the perfect friend with benefits.
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>>151652311
>not having her take you to a PI where you are a girl
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>>151652653
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>>151652671
She's MY daughter and I will sexualize her all I want, faggot
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>>151652409
>Papicake
>19
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>>151652778
She's NOT your fucking daughter, asshole! Back the fuck off!
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>>151652826
I bet you don't even express her anal glands. That's no way to treat a good puppy like her.
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>>151652826
We don't know anything about her parents. This anon could very well be her father.
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>>151653045
What if Mimi is her father?
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>>151653045
Of course I am. Papika loves daddy's cummies!
[Spoiler]kill me[/spoiler]
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This is the kind of "discussion" we will get when there's nothing to talk about anymore, but still make threads.
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>>151653154
Wew I should just kill myself I guess
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>>151653185
It's horrifying
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>>151653185
Post bump limit is no man's land but I agree
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>>151653185
How's this any different from the standard saturday discussion threads when the show was airing?

We've got at least until next thursday before the quality of threads declines notably beneath airing levels. Though, I suspect we probably won't even make it to that point
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>>151653257
>How's this any different from the standard saturday discussion threads when the show was airing?
The prospect of something new to talk about the coming week.
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>>151653237
>Post bump limit is no man's land
This.
Once the post count goes red, it's every little girl for herself!
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>>151653332
In other words, hope.
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>>151653185

Hey, I'm very interested in Futanon's doujin ideas.
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>>151653373
What's hope?
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>>151653373
Maybe it'll get a manga
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>>151653407
ELPIS
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>>151653429
Without animation, I think Flip Flappers would lose a very significant part of what made it so enjoyable. There were some hiccups near the end but otherwise it was very expressive with it's style of animation even without considering whether it was particularly impressive technically or not.
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>>151638852
>I didn't like het pairings with Cocona.
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>>151643448
>>151643351
remember "don't take my Cocona away" too.
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>>151643448
Sometimes I genuinely get the impression that directors see our jokes and write them into their shows
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>>151653466
ERUPISUTO!
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