Which re:zero girl is best, /a/?
Every thread until Rem wakes up.
Why aren't you worshiping her yet, mortal?
You cannot deny
For those that missed it.
Is the clown about to reveal his power level and/or waifu?
Lewd witch is best girl obviously.
I imagine your massive erection would be a pretty obvious giveaway
Mine sure as hell would be
That's a weird way to type "Petrasche"
>a half elf who looks like Lugnica's Satan
Why won't Subaru get with a nice human girl?
>you will never be her shota fucktoy
First girl is also best girl
>first girl is also best girl
But that would be the OG haafu erufu, not Emilia.
>actually choosing the most boring girl ever
Why is there never any love for Beako?
Beako a cutest
Was Rem hoping for a doujin scenario with her mayonnaise bath plan?
>that one doujin where Ram offers Subaru her ass because her womb is for Clown only
I don't think it'll be that simple. The guy loves Echidna and as of the end of arc 4 best Witch is residing in the body of Lewes Meyer. It's a ticking time bomb I tell you. The power vacuum, faction instability, and loss of connections caused by executing him also remain.
Then they'll likely just have Ram split off from him eventually, anyways.
Truth be told, I don't think he's really that bad, shady as fuck, but unless I'm retarded (probably) I haven't seen him do anything truly vile yet. I honestly wanted him and Subaru to get close.
Subaru making a scene in the Not.Estates General was such a cringefest jesus chirst.
His past with Ram is pretty dickish and so is how he managed to stay alive for four centuries.
And you know, Elsa. Both times.If you're all caught up with the current chapters you'll remember the scene with Ram and Garfiel too.
It's too bad because he's a lot of fun even in the sidestories. It makes his "betrayal" all the worse.
Ram knew his true nature from the start and initially hated him for it. The terms of their contract* reflect those early days and Roswaal mistakenly believes she still feels that way. That they started out disliking their lovers is one way sisters parallel each other looking back.
Ram must do whatever he says as long as the gospel is correct. If it isn't, then Ram can do whatever she wants with him. The clown believes the gospel is the one way to revive Echidna and gain her favor so if it's wrong he loses all purpose of living. In case you're wondering, when Subaru is off-script aka a failed loop then Roswaal does become Ram's bitch after Toyota kicks the bucket but we only see one instance of this in the second trial of Echidna which showed failed loops.
The one loop I would love to have seen, but it would reveal too much too soon is Elsa reporting back on mission success and Clown asking about any weird boys and Elsa having no idea what he's on about and clown wondering where the hell his memeboy even went because Subaru died stupidly in an alleyway to fucking randoms.
Being Ram's bitch isn't a punishment. That's a reward.
Too early to say if anything will disrupt those plans. Some suspect Emilia to get jealous and cause drama when Rem wakes up since she admitted to being jealous of their closeness and a few moments where she observes their interactions and the narration feels it's important enough to let us know that. Right now she's not making a fuss because she doesn't know Rem, I guess.
How did he not cuddle and impregnate her right then and there.
I mean he hadn't really fallen super in love with her at that moment. It was probably there and growing, but it wasn't at the point where he could say he loved her as much as he did Emilia just yet.
I think he's going to boast about his gospel ultimately being correct and lowkey reavel his plan out of cockiness. Then Subaru will drop the bombshell that is Echidna revoking his Greed apostle status.
But the heartboners. I'm surprised he didn't RbD from it.
Because he took the time to cuddle with her the entire night twice and got punished for it.
>The next day, Ram came to wake up Subaru, and she saw him and Rem, who both slept in and were in an intimate situation. A situation where Subaru was given a violent scolding broke out with him not being able to argue about it.
>----Everything was scenes of Rem’s very ordinary happy day.
>nee-sama gave Rem a violent lecture
>nee-sama gave Barusu a violent scolding
Basically this. And it was described earlier that Rem's skirt was all lewdly exposed and ruffled up which made it look like things went further.
Or it's just a reference to a 2ch meme from Castle in the Sky.
Or she's just demeaning him with a nickname from rearranging his name.
WN makes it very clear he loves Rem. The LN kept in Rem's polygamy suggestion and Subaru's confession to her, but the translation I was looking at has been doing some really iffy things to all of her scenes after where the anime ended off.
It's to the point where I think they must be planning a Season 2 or something, because the scene changes don't feel like they actually improve anything. Rather, they just make the story fit better without the scenes the anime cut. This is "INTENSE FRIENDSHIP" level BS.
Subaru still tries to bring up the polygamy thing, but he pauses and is interrupted by Emilia before he can say anything about having a romantic attraction to Rem. Unless the translator is some horrendously biased Emiliafag, Subaru never tells anyone he loves Rem. A lot of lines where he talks about Rem and his feelings for her are either modified or cut to leave the whole issue a lot vaguer, and Emilia's presence is increased in a lot of those scenes in a way I feel takes away from the focus on Rem. Subaru doesn't seem to be lashing out on quite the same level either. Apparently, some of the later Rem scenes are just completely cut altogether.
Now, I don't necessarily have a problem with Emilia being given more presence, but this picture here does show what my actual problem is. Just tell me, where is the focus in how this scene is portrayed?
The odd thing here is that I'm not sure Emilia actually got many more scenes at all, since I noticed one of them was actually cut. The one where Subaru asks her to insult him.
>It's to the point where I think they must be planning a Season 2 or something, because the scene changes don't feel like they actually improve anything. Rather, they just make the story fit better without the scenes the anime cut. This is "INTENSE FRIENDSHIP" level BS.
Yep. There are some lines where the narrative says he's talking about Rem, but no real detail. There seem to actually be a little less dialogue about her, as he never says anything that makes it entirely obvious he's in love with her, and a little more dialogue focused on Emilia. Stuff like Emilia talking about how she and Subaru have so much in common.
It really is making me pretty uneasy. I'm going to have to wait for the next LN to be released and hope for a description of the Witch of Lust scene, because that's the only major Rem scene that should be left in Arc 4.
He doesn't lash out as much because the characters aren't given a chance to trigger him in the first place. I wouldn't scaremonger over it. You're also forgetting a very important bit about the first trial which Subaru attributes to Rem for the most part and reaffirms he has two #1s.
>You're also forgetting a very important bit about the first trial which Subaru attributes to Rem for the most part and reaffirms he has two #1s.
Is it still that way in the LN? Does he clearly state that he loves them both? The translation I was looking at didn't get that far. Also, he really does trigger a little less at Otto.
It wasn't listed as a difference in the pastebin and there's pretty much no choice but to give credit to Rem there so it should be. The reason he's not as triggered at Otto had to do with leaving Rem in the carriage and then coming back for her in the original but since he takes her in as soon as they arrive in the LN iirc it doesn't play out the same way and prevents a sperg out.
>but since he takes her in as soon as they arrive in the LN iirc it doesn't play out the same way and prevents a sperg out.
Otto still makes the same suggestion, and Subaru still snaps at him. It's just not to the same degree.
Are they really doing this? I mean sure Subaru was pretty irrational when Rem was mentioned in the WN, but it outlined just how important she was to him. Also it makes the eventual conflict with Gluttony all the less sweeter.
A little offtopic here but I really want Subaru to take the Authority of Wrath before he takes Gluttony. I want him to kill Gluttony utilising Wrath
>I want him to kill Gluttony utilising Wrath
How would that work? Kill them all together by forcing them to experience the power of his feels? Or do you fuck with all of the emotions they've got stored in their gut, until they have to start puking to clear their heads out?
pastebin/LN fag here, I'm pretty sure the trial part is still the same. He definitely attributes Rem as the one who helped him get over his past at least. But I'll admit I didn't really look at it super closely, since 95% of it was the same.
I'm also pretty sure there was a part on the dragon carriage ride back where Emilia asks "She's very important to you, isn't she?" and Subaru responds "Yeah. As much as you, Emilia-tan." or something like that. I guess they didn't specifically use the word "love" but it's pretty clear from Subaru's monologues and stuff that he does love Rem. It is definitely dialed down from the WN though.
Also, I didn't mention it from the pastebin but Subaru triggering at Otto is still there, just less so. If I remember right in the WN Subaru goes "Don't you touch Rem" in a dark tone. In the LN he just kinda snaps and says "I'll bring her inside, you don't have to do anything!" and then realizes he's being a dick and then apologizes almost immediately after.
>Are they really doing this?
Seems like it, from everything I've seen and what was described.
>I guess they didn't specifically use the word "love"
Welp, that confirms this wasn't just a shitty translation I was reading. I'm not saying he doesn't love Rem, but it still strikes me that these scenes were altered with a potential Season 2 in mind. The subject of polygamy is narrowly avoided, and it's never directly stated he loves Rem. There would be no need for any kind of flashbacks if these versions were the scenes Season 2 was working with.
Anyhow, any news on whether he still strangles Roswaal?
Subaru wouldn't get Sirius's version of Wrath. When a person gets an Authority it bases itself on that persons version of the sin. This is proven with Subaru's Authority of Sloth, while it manifests a single hand in no way is it weak. This hand can do "what the slothful Subaru cannot", and depending on the situation can manifest a variety of powers such as intangibility (which Betelgeuse's hand couldn't do) and indestructibility (able to uppercut Regulus with the hand when stillness of objects time was still activated). If we have anything to go by Subaru's Wrath the authority will be purely offensive and a fearsome weapon...probably his go to attack authority.
>Anyhow, any news on whether he still strangles Roswaal?
Dunno yet, I haven't read anything further than the stuff I posted yesterday (not at home for the new year weekend)
I'm sorta guessing that he doesn't though, or at least not in the same way, because I can't think of another way to explain why he has both eyes.
Personally, I'm happy that changed. It was pretty annoying watching him lash out at every little thing having to do with Rem to almost everybody. Tappei looked back this and thought he over did the dramatics since he had already gotten across how much Subaru misses Rem with the two coma scenes. Not to mention how he reacts to new scenes with Ram when Rem is brought up. So now when he does lash out like he did against Carmilia it will be more special instead of a rerun.
LN Witch of Lust is what will make or break it bud.
I don't see them steering away from the "hurr you see your heart girl" thing so shit will be pretty cut and dry where we're headed depending on if Rem shows up or not.
Eh. From what I've heard, the scene where he thinks of her as the one he can show weakness to isn't there anymore, and he's not showing the same wariness of showing vulnerability to Emilia. At least not in the scenes I've seen.
Nah, just normal short hair without the crazy
He's thoughts are more important in those scenes than who he is with. Emilia being there give scene a bit more warmth and hopefulness when Subaru make promise to bring to wake Rem.He need a shoulder to cry on that point so to speak Emilia and Rem have always taken that position.
There should have been two or three other coma scenes. One at mansion he gets back and another one which was given to Ram which should have a long time ago in WN and not like in... Arc 6.
>There should have been two or three other coma scenes.
There aren't as many as you think. All of the ones left are very short, and aren't exactly the memorable ones. And Emilia there makes it less of a private moment between Subaru and coma girl. If they wanted to add a scene of him getting comforted by Emilia, then have it after he leaves the room.
I don't know. Like I said I always felt his thoughts are more in there. Eitherway I haven't read the scenes in question myself so there only so much I can say about them, but the art look pretty poignant to me. Shrug.
I think the change to include Ram wasn't a bad one. Not counting sidestories and extras it seems like we get a glimpse of Ram's thoughts on Rem a little late in the WN.
Not him but translations are there if you needed them anon, but the LN made the entire situation more cheesy and stupid, it felt like it was shoehorned in there just because. Also
Stop that shit
Like I said, it felt distracting to me. It worked better as a more private moment.
From the description, it portrays the situation with Ram and Rem more negatively, while the reveal at the end of WN Arc 4 keeps it relatively positive even if it's still tragic.
Personally the fact that Emilia is with him there to comfort him while he is obviously hurting was a really good move because it perfectly aligns with a moment "From Zero".
Remember what Subaru's words were? "I'm watching you ( Emilia ), you ( Rem ) are watching me, so I won't look down".
With Rem's recent development things have more or less swapped places. Subaru is now watching Rem while Emilia is watching him and because of this he shouldn't look down but forward.
So in all honesty, her deeper involvement in scenes like that support the idea of a very strong bond between those 3 that "From Zero" hinted at.
Doesn't sound that way to me. Emilia sounds like she honoring his request while still respecting his space in his grief. But Like I said opinions.
I meas their who thought From Zero was really cheesy and stupid and didn't care much for Rem's fantasy about having kids or Subaru complaining.
The prom is From Zero had a reason, while this interaction from Subaru and Emilia felt more shoehorned if anything. Plus contradicting many character traits and well as making no sense that Emilia is also feeling sad and crying for a person she forgot. Just, why?
Yes, exactly. I always was felt that Tappei bluntly paralleling Rem>Subaru and Subaru>Emilia dynamic thematically, but dynamic has now been slowly changing overtime to something more mutual with both parties.
That said, I'd like to Emilie and Rem interact with eachother more at some point.
Because she crying for Subaru who is in grief and pain not for Rem specially. It hurts her to see him like such a wreck. There nothing inherently wrong with that.
And the point of my comparison with From Zero is that it's not about whether what Rem said was pointless but that not everyone agrees that had to be there or thought was interesting.
If don't like addition fine, but I'm pretty sure others did and considering Tappei included he clearly felt it had point. You're free to disagree with him.
I wouldn't have problem either one vice versa myself. Rem didn't have to present for the Lap-pillow scene, but she didn't take away from being there. I personally I just feel there is a bit of bias because you saw the WN version first and preferred that. Nothing wrong with that is that valid point of view.
Personally I don't Tappei even sees the Rem and Emilia scenes as something he always needs to divorce from one another.
>I personally I just feel there is a bit of bias because you saw the WN version first and preferred that.
Of course. That's exactly what I'm saying. I preferred the WN version because it worked better that way. I don't like the LN versions of the scenes as much because they don't have the same feeling. They feel more diluted. All of the scenes feel weaker.
I like this take on long haired Rem. Shame about the watermark though.
I wonder who could be behind this post.
It also isn't just that scene as well. Considering that even with the Elsa scene with "World Ending" as well as Puck foreshadowing and Subaru talking more about how Rem and his love for her more than usual are all unlikeable changed, its as if they are trying to make the LN more tamer/safer than their WN counterpart.
If typesetter is here could you do this one?
>Subaru talking more about Rem and his love for her more than usual
This one is the one I dislike the most actually Subaru's love for Rem or anything involving Rem is supposed to be the one that's more private, quiet, shy and mature. Not the one that he constantly talks about a bunch of times. That's more of Subaru and Emilia's thing. Emilia's is words but Rem's is actions.
I don't think she should grow it more than neck length if she does grow her hair out in the MU. Or, if we're going along the lines of her copying others, she should go with something similar to Crusch like a few here have said.
I think it works here because he just lost her and it's more an attempt to cope with that than anything else. Not because he wants to brag but because he has to remind himself and the world that the girl he loves and the girl that loves him still exists.
Not at all, especially if they are planning of keeping the plotpoint of Subaru inexplicably replacing people's memories of Rem due to the Gluttony curse. Plus these changed are trying as if to make Subaru's love for Rem and Emilia similar in their spectrum rather than having their own identity. It also make Subaru stupid as well considering that its something he should talk privately about, which he did in the WN rather than going around yelling about it like a madman, as that would also counteract and remove all the development and maturity he had in arc 3.
Well Tappei clearly thinks very differently. His impressions of those scenes simply didn't match yours. Didn't think has anything do with LN being safer or tamer (hell if anything more violent because of character die on screen this time for example) as he feel that stuff wasn't that important be portrayed the way you liked them.
His tweet for arc 4 says differently as well, while I don't have the exact tweet he did say he enjoyed arc 4 for how it was a lot but the editor wanted to make changes. You can look it up yourself as well.
That's why you see people blaming the editors more than Tappei himself.
>yelling about it like a madma
He's not memeing about it is he? At least I didn't interpret the idea that he would be talking about Rem more as him doing it in the style of meme flirting and theatrics like he does with Emilia. There are ways to talk about a person and your feelings about them without being silly about it.
This doesn't mean he didn't have a lot of those changes on mind. You should be careful about imposing you views on the author. It's not like he hasn't made similar changes for Arc 2 and 3.
He isn't screaming about like madman like that dude says. He just talks a bit more about Rem than did in the LN which isn't all taht much more. He doesn't meme about either, it's just salt from Rem fans about there not being as many SubaruxRem alone time when he's just doing same grieving.
>He doesn't meme about either, it's just salt from Rem fans about there not being as many SubaruxRem alone time when he's just doing same grieving.
Man, it took you this long to start bitching about those nasty Rem fans, huh?
Of course he had changes in mind but him saying he liked arc 4 a lot for what it was, and the editor wanting to make changes implies that Tappei just wanted to make minor changes not a big shift to what it was right now, even if they kept the same plotpoints.
If the editor is an Emiliafag, it could ruin so many things. I like how they're making Emilia more dependent but it feels like they're going to shoehorn her into arcs that aren't even about her, like instead of Ram going with Subaru to the tower Emilia goes.
Almost everyone went to the tower though, including Emilia. Ram didn't have to go, that's what made her inclusion special and noteworthy. You couldn't really have Emilia replace that sentiment.
Where did I do anything like that? You are guys are being salty about it. I doubt a majority of people reading the LN are gonna care about it, and I doubt Tappei is hardly broken up about the change. A lot of them will think those scenes are fine and some won't. So stop being defensive when nobody is attacking you or the character.
As far I know Tappei said that he overwrote the Arc now looking at it. So I'm pretty sure he had just more than minor changes planned. To be frankly most intents and purpose the arc is largely the same anyway just better paced with a lot of redundancy cut. Most of Rem stuff were only a minor part of the arc so they could be changed without much issue. Ram meeting Rem is now makes much more sense.
Its a slippery slope kind of thing. As Ram is the focus of arc 6 as of late, as Ram and Subaru got separated from the rest of the party. So instead of Ram it might just be Emilia.
The problem is that Emilia is also getting a bunch of stuff cut out. As those who read the LN say that there are no Emilia scenes.
>Where did I do anything like that?
Just now and all last thread. Don't act like you aren't the same retard, no one else makes nearly as many typos per post as you do.
And no, it's not salt, because people have every right to be concerned when scenes start getting removed, especially when it's not just Rem scenes that are being cut.
Maybe they really are trying to cut things down and change it so it can get adapted eventually. It's pretty concerning, especially with what the anime already cut out in the first place.
I would really like to kick the editor in the nuts if that is the case, the anime was fucking bad and they should feel bad, it becoming a standard for the superior source is concerning.
Tappei is an Emiliafag to begin with. The core of story is written about relationship between an human outsider and sliver-half elf who have a shared destiny. Doesn't mean he's not giving everyone time in the limelight like he did with Ram and Petra in thus volume. And in fairness all the Rem coma scenes are still intact, Tappei probably feels that is pointless for Subaru to have 3 alone scenes with her grieving, especially since her disappearance had more effects beyond just how he felt which was already established.
Yeah, I see no reason why that would change. I.
Well, as long as it doesn't affect how Tappei writes the WN when he starts it up again, it won't really be the biggest deal in the world. The cut scenes are still in the version we're reading, after all.
That honestly doesn't feel like a change from the wn version. Emilia is quite abundant at the beginning but then she drops off for the rest of the arc and then shows up in the last loop to finally do something that's (directly, keyword here) useful after several hundred chapters since the story began.
For the LN edits
And miscellaneous things:
>Almost no screentime for Emilia
>"Petra is cute"
>Lots of people liked Otto's parts
>"Dona is cute and the true heroine"
These are from people who read the LN in twitter and 2ch.
If you want every detail >>151473461
It seems that they really are just cutting a bunch of shit. There are also rumors that arc 4 is shorter than arc 3.
I feel Tappei intended for arc 4 to be a short transition arc but then Echidna and her witchy cohorts came and bloated it into an Echidna sized arc.
So after this cheesy bullshit they give her no screentime afterwards? Make up your fucking mind editors. Christ.
I remember some Emiliafags got mad at the idea that Emilia would do something like sabotage Rem's revival or antagonize her but if you subscribe to the theory that she's Satella her jealousy had to start somewhere, and Rem is the perfect character to facilitate that. It's almost too perfect and obvious in hindsight if it happens.
Or how about we just simply don't jump the gun on various things especially if they come from various rather unreliable sources ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?
Really only a fraction of people who even discuss this had the LN in their hands and the capability to read it so instead of letting bits of information that aren't 100% reliable end up in a whirl of rumors let's just keep it down for some time, shall we?
>The problem is that Emilia is also getting a bunch of stuff cut out. As those who read the LN say that there are no Emilia scenes.
Which is fine because how refinement works. Other characters got scenes cut or altered in order improve pacing and flow. Minerva for example doesn't even appear when Subaru first meets Echidna like she did in the WN.
v10 for example had plenty of Emilia, but less of Freddie comparison to the WN. Here in vol 11 you got more Freddie and much less Emilia. It's the same with other characters like Patrache who has a new scene here in this volume since she came to manor with Suabru.
>Just now and all last thread. Don't act like you aren't the same retard, no one else makes nearly as many typos per post as you do.
Now you are just dodging my question and overly defensive. This place was pretty chill before you started whining about stupid fights nobody care about to deflect the issue. If aren't gonna be irrational instead civil I'll simply stop talking to you now.
>And no, it's not salt, because people have every right to be concerned when scenes start getting removed, especially when it's not just Rem scenes that are being cut
Not really. The LN has being altering and cut stuff for years so this hardly new. You're are being salty because being nitpickity as hell about things that weren't even cut, but just written because it didn't pander to you.
If she does do something like that I don't think Subaru would forgive her. That would forgo many of the qualities Subaru likes in her and doing something to Rem would literally be doing something to a piece of his heart. I'm not saying Subaru could live without Rem but he just won't be whole without her.
And you think any of these changes are good or ok? Take "World Ending" for example, rather than Subaru running form Elsa himself to save Petra and Frederica holding her off while using his own body to block off any Elsa's attacks, mostly ther throwing knives. Instead of the LN scene where Subaru has his vision "suddenly go red" then waking up being carried by Patarche and seeing that he is just holding Petra's arm. Would you rather enjoy the WN version or the LN version based on what people spoil about the LN version?
To clarify, the "almost no screentime for Emilia" is for Volume 11 only. Which isn't really any different from the WN, so that's not really a change. (although they also removed or rearranged the scene where Subaru asks Roswaal about Emilia's past and his explanation about elves and the freezing of the forest, so I guess there is "less Emilia" in that sense)
Also now that I've actually read some of it myself I can confirm that everything at least in the loop 2 section is right (wouldn't say Frederica jobbed though, unless those guys meant off-screen or something)
But please don't take my shitty summaries as anything other than shitty summaries. I'm trying to cover as much as I feel important but it's still a different experience to reading it.
None of changes n the LN, fundamentally change the story though. Subaru still loves Rem in LN for example, but he's not grieving about her alone in 3 separate scenes like in the WN that what some guys here are really mad about.
>but he's not grieving about her alone in 3 separate scenes like in the WN that what some guys here are really mad about.
You keep bringing this up despite people bringing up many more scenes that get changed, many of which don't involve Rem AT ALL. Stop acting like it's only Rem fans that do anything wrong, it's fucking stupid, especially when I don't even like Rem myself and yet here I am concerned about these changes.
>Now you are just dodging my question and overly defensive
I answered the question. And again it's not just the cut Rem scenes that people are concerned about, you just keep pointing to those and start crying about Rem fans.
I wish people would just stop throwing a tantrum about entire scenes they haven't even read themselves and only heard through second hand information that most likely went through various people before arriving here.
Seriously, there is no need to fire shots or at anyone or be upset about anything until everything is clear within its entire context which means the entire arc.
Hell there could even be cases where scenes seem cut out but simply are relocated which isn't that unlikely considering the main changes of this arc have the goal of improving the pace.
Just, chill for second.
>Just, chill for second.
It comes down to people simply being concerned about things getting removed, and the one anon with extremely poor grammar defending Tappei no matter what and acting like it's all Rem fans that are the ones concerned despite constantly being told otherwise.
You gotta be joking right now.
The only other thing you have brought up is a complaint about how Subaru literally isn't getting cut up enough. I really doubt Tappei give shit about that because the despair is still there everyone dying and he still gets wound. You're just being pedantic here.
But there is a difference between being concerned while respecting that said arc with all of its changes is not complete yet and throwing curses at people who aren't even know have any influence on it.
It's not been the first time things have been relocated in favor of a better pacing and this most likely won't be different. If anything the already known changes from volume10 make quite clear that Tappei is shuffling the order and circumstances of events around.
Who says that several scenes that are removed now won't happen simply in another loop? Who says there won't be entirely original scenes which adopt the message of the "cut" ones?
We're currently in an arc which has its narrative boundaries. So unless we finish said arc and have a clear view on it in its entirety there i no point in proclaiming the end of the world about 35% into it.
>It comes down to people simply being concerned about things getting removed, and the one anon with extremely poor grammar defending Tappei no matter what and acting like it's all Rem fans that are the ones concerned despite constantly being told otherwise.
Thanks for the strawman, but most of the complaints have been about Rem, and less everything else. The LN has been changing or removing minor shit forever. That's not defense , that is fact and it is nothing new. You can look in JP wiki and see see of those changes yourself.
I wonder how it's like to be looking through a narrow hole such as yours.
People have been concerned about plenty of the things that have been removed, you just point out the Rem fans specifically for some stupid reason. And no shit most complaints are about Rem, she's the most popular character, but that doesn't mean people aren't concerned about the other things that get removed.
People are acting concerned because they liked the WN version as it is, and are rightfully worried when things get changed in the published version. And really dude, complaining about curse words on 4chan? Don't be a fucking faggot.
Roswaal: “Iiiiiiii certainly didn't expect for you to be visiting so late aaaaaaat night.”
Subaru: “...Really, this all-preparations-set vibe feels more like you were waiting. Not like you
snuffed the lights to sleep, feels more you just lit the flame.”
Roswaal: “Ahaaaa, how haaaaaarsh. But, well, yooooooou're not wrong in the slightest.”
Leaned against his pillow as he uprights himself on the bed, Roswaal's cheeks relax as he welcomes
Subaru. While most of the lights in Roswaal's bedroom have been snuffed, the flame of the candle
of his little bedside table has just been changed, its amber light swaying as it illuminates the room.
The shade of the entrancing, wavering fire casts an eerie shadow over Roswaal's pallid face. Subaru
swallows his breath as he gets to facing the conversation.
Should Subaru's knowledge be correct, then a conversation with Roswaal would—
Roswaal: “Aaaaaaand so? You've purposefully come prowling here in the dead of night. Haaaaaave
you perhaps come with some flirtation tooooo coax my attentions?”
Subaru: “...Coax you, isn't incorrect. Roswaal
They can like it all they want, doesn't change the fact that it is merely a draft and majority of it was written several years ago. If changes are made they are done in consideration of the entire story and based from what he learned in said draft. So instead of sperging out about every single deviation without knowing a single thing about how the content beyond this will look like, people could just meet this in a far more collected way. And it's not about curse words itself, c'mon. It's about throwing a tantrum and searching for someone to blame out of superficial reasons
>people could just meet this in a far more collected way
And people do discuss it, you simply act like we're all sperging Remfags when we complain about anything. Get over yourself, you're just as bad for acting like Tappei can do no wrong.
Except if anything unlike you my view is broad. I can accept the changes because 1) that is what Tappei wants 2) there nothing intrinsic wrong with said changes. If anything you're one looking through a narrow hole.
>People have been concerned about plenty of the things that have been removed, you just point out the Rem fans specifically for some stupid reason.
I pointed out Rem because that what most of the concerns have been about.
There is more but you get it. Basically the complaint there is no Rem scenes with just him alone and the fact he's talking about her a bit more. I never even said you had to like the alter Rem scenes, but some people making huge deal of something pretty minor.
>And no shit most complaints are about Rem, she's the most popular character,
Fuck finally so you admit it.
> but that doesn't mean people aren't concerned about the other things that get removed.
I never said that in any of my posts. All the other concerns are barely mentioned so are has only been one sequence involving Elsa and some foreshadowing about Puck that honestly a non-issue sine nothing has come of even in the WN since we still know jackshit about him. Beyond these there are complaints about other non Rem related stuff in this thread?
Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
I think you confuse me with someone, cause I never even once mentioned Rem or anyone connected to her.
Aside from that. I take no shame in being patient until the entire arc is over instead of complaining now and trusting someone who works with the story on daily basis, but hey that's just me right?
>Except if anything unlike you my view is broad. I can accept the changes because 1) that is what Tappei wants 2) there nothing intrinsic wrong with said changes. If anything you're one looking through a narrow hole.
Holy shit dude, get over yourself. Tappei isn't infallible, and just because he (or his editors) want these changes doesn't mean we can't complain about them. And yes, there are things wrong with these changes as already explained to you, and no, it doesn't all have to do with Rem. You just act like some self-righteous fucktard that thinks Tappei can do no wrong.
Yep. It's pretty retarded to think Tappei wouldn't be doing what he has been for several years now. The LN is basically rewritten and better edited version of WN. The fact majority of handwriting is mostly centered Rem who tends to make half this these into circlejerk just makes all suspect.
It's perfectly in his rights to change what ever he wants. He is only one who knows the full of were things will go we don't. If he's altering things like Rem scenes, changing certain sequences like the chase with Elsa and moving certain foreshadowings around than how those events where in the WN aren't important to the story to begin with. Even then there is nothing you can do about it anyway.
Eitherway I choose to trust the guy has been planning and writing this work for years that he knows what he's doing. There is still the original WN scenes if you want, but I doubt they are gonna matter if they can be changed in the LN which has still tells the same story.
Tappei isn't infallible, dude. Just because it's his work doesn't mean we can't criticize things when changes are made. You're just in the opposite extreme where you think he can do no wrong.
Yes and just because he isn't infallible doesn't mean he and his editors changes are wrong. There no fucking self-righeous in that logic, especially most of counterpoints to this is reality just is buthurt over not enough blue haired waifu alone time even thought she still getting scenes with Subaru.
For fucksake can some you stop strawmanning me? Yes of course he's not infallible. Which is why even the story in the WN could still end up shit later even with your precious SubaruxComa alone scenes or less modified Elsa chase sequence and Arc 4's overall bloat.
My point was never to say he was perfect but that he doing what he always been for his story.
>your precious SubaruxComa alone scenes
Good job pointing out something I've never once mentioned myself in this argument.
If you want people to stop calling you out on being a fucktard, then stop acting like one. Even if you aren't intending to do the things you're getting called out for, you sure are coming off that way. All you seem to do is act like Tappei is always right and that it's all Remfags that complain.
Thing is they have knowledge about how things will turn out for the rest of the arc and we don't. For all we know things that are omitted now can appear at some later point which makes criticism as if it's gone for good kinda futile. We can voice our concern but in the end we have no idea what is done with these changes. So because of that I'd rather trust in someone who knows about how the rest of the story will turn out instead of judging every single deviation as if it would make the work in its entirety inferior.
I'm not that other guy by the way since it seems there've been cases of confusion. I'm not hamfisted on the whole Rem thingy.
Okay, yeah, you're making a lot more sense than the other guy. His whole shtick just kind of blended with yours and I got mad at someone actually being reasonable. My bad.
I mean, I do want to trust that the changes will be for the better, but at the same time I am concerned about those changes. Nothing really we can do about it in the end unless people really want to just keep arguing about it.
Ah, it's alright man. I kind of can understand both sides there but I'm with you there as I absolutely despise when people are being generalized under one single term, especially if it's in such a negative way.
Yep, that's pretty much all I wanted to express there, cheers!
You misunderstood me. I'm not implicating that you made this complaints. I'm just using those thing as example of things that were in the WN say point that mean story wouldn't turn out to be crap with them in it. Sorry about that.
Why are you hating on me? When then I ever say you had like any Tappei did?
>I'm not that other guy by the way since it seems there've been cases of confusion. I'm not hamfisted on the whole Rem thingy.
I'm not either. I've acknowledge the other concerns, but they aren't brought nearly as much. Even then what I'm saying is aimed at the concerns in general which cuts and story changes aren't unusual for Re:Zero's LN books. Tappei doesn't just cut things, but also adds stuff too.
What's good about this anime? Genuinely curious, got a lot of free time for the next month so I want to watch a new anime or two. I liked KonoSuba, is ReZero somewhat similar to that?
P.S. I don't watch a lot of anime, seen like 20 titles in total.
You mean the one where he said he finds Arc 4 to be too long and that he caught himself repeating certain dialogues and plotpoints multiple times?
Or do you mean the recent one where he said that he changed up quite a lot in Volume 11 in order to give people some new surprises when they read it and hopes they enjoy it?
You don't know what Tappei wants either. I'm just inferring as much as you are. I'm pretty sure he's had a say or intention in every change in every Arc adapted so far. Arc 4 wouldn't magically change that. So I don't there is any point arguing about unless ask the man himself.
>That’s because, when the light novel was made, the first three volumes were consecutive publications with the contents written in around half a year. At the same time, I was also proceeding with arc 4. It was difficult for my brain to switch between the start and arc 4, but during that time I did have free time to update.
>And when I have time to update, I would sadly go “I forgot the contents of my previous update.” As a result, I would write the same kind of thing. I would forget what I was trying to say. When that issue arises, the quality/crispness of the story is gone. I thought arc 4 was quite interesting, but had a lot of waste [pointless content?].
>I think that was the biggest reason that [regarding arc 4 issues] happened.
Where the fuck are you getting this shit that Tappei didn't want to change arc4 but his editors made him? Did you seriously think nobody would call you out on bullshit that can be easily checked?
If it makes you feel better about the coma, it's made Subaru's feelings for his oni waifu grow stronger.
Not the other guy you were responding to, but yeah I remember reading this too, but I forgot the link. Thanks for posting that.
As much as I like Arc 4 it's true that it's WN incarnation would be too difficult to sell as commercial product and adapt as TV show. That said this is more or less par course for Tappei. Arc 3 had a bunch altered and it came out fine. I imagine the trend will continue Arc 5 and other future arcs.
So i just watched episode 25 and i was oriented to read the II and III interludes wich i did, so is it ok if i keep reading translationchicken releases wich are based on the WN or should i drop it to read the LN, im confused with these changes between LNxWN
Nobody, actually knows. This just the assumption, but Archbishops of Gluttony do know the secret for curing Rem. Which I feel for that purpose the the tower expedition will ultimately fail or at best produce a half-measure.
Now Reinhard birthday art flood has started. It's literally a damn flood.
I just wish there's at least a tiny peak on Ferri art when his birthday aka January 16 arrives...
Btw, Happy New Year bros.
Ferri looks so happy
Will he ever be happy again?
Yes, when Crusch-sama gets her memories back
When Subaru-kun makes him a mother
Well she is proven fertile
>Subaru says 'fuck it' and runs off with Rem
>They have a huge happy family someplace far away from all the problems of the world
>one day Subaru gets randomly hit by a cart in the street and dies
>suddenly he's back in front of the fruit stand
Then why does she have so few doujins?
He hits checkpoints, though he has no control over when or where they are
The fruit stand was just the first one
Hmm, they don't wear anything under their dresses in the EX volume.
She does, she just doesn't realize it.
I swear if Tappei dares to cut the fake Rem scene or alter it to make it weaker and tamer, I will book a flight to Japan and beat the hell up Tappei or whoever responsible for the changes.
Crusch is too generic, typical President of the Student Council type of character, strong, independent, attractive, but no breed material.
People go with waifuism and cute stuff said by characters, and so far Rem wins in that regard. As for physical attractiveness and yet to reveal cuteness and total GF material, Emilia is your girl.
Fourier will be eventually voiced by based Ging Freecss aka Rikiya Koyama.
Tappei writes an AU chapter each year taking place in a universe where Rem accepted Subaru wanting to run away. It's cute, but mostly fluff and the premise is out of character not necessarily for Subaru, but for Rem to take Subaru's offer in the first place.
About what you would expect
Could still be fun though
You guys doing anything special for new year's? I honestly have no plans will probably just browse the thread and play games.
But not his dick
Over on the panda, my dude
That's not what my doujins say
Even though I dislike Subaru X Ferri, this gets me. Ferri feels so good he can't even say the car's name properly.
>when he's just doing same grieving
He does very different grieving in different scenes, if you haven't been paying attention.
>He just talks a bit more about Rem than did in the LN which isn't all taht much more.
It actually feels like there's less dialogue, but it says he's talking more. In short, the story is telling us he is, but not showing it.
The weirdest change is that he hasn't said he loves Rem even once to anyone in Arc 4 or the last few chapters of Arc 3. Even his internal monologue has been weaseling around it.
Is there a knight more loyal than Ferri?
But clown doesn't want all the bitches, it would be the most awful victory for him ever. Just imagine him sitting there with girls all over his dick and he's just thinking 'where did it all go so wrong?'
So loyal he won't even risk his life to go to the tower and get his beloved Crusch-sama's memories back?
Are you serious? Julius and Reinhard both probably have Ferris beat. Julius' title is literally being the perfect knight, and when Anastasia gets fucked even though he lost his name and all backing he still goes immediately to try and fix her.
How to beat a serial killer into submission
He does random stuff Emilia doesn't want him to. You could argue that being a different kind of loyalty maybe, but in the case of talking about a knight's loyalty its not really a positive. Especially the royal castle sperg out. Maybe you could discount that since he wasn't a knight and the time and gets better later. Similarly, Ferris can't be the most loyal because he specifically shits on people Crusch wanted to remain on good terms with in gratitude.
We will have to wait for the next LN to see how much he will change the carmilla/fake Rem scene.
If it's gonna be some "INTENSE FRIENDSHIP" BS than it's clear that tappei/editors want to change Subaru/Rem relationship and people gonna be really pissed about it.
Can't wait for the shitstorm.
That would hurt the sales a lot i believe, so i wouldnt bet on the editors taking out whats the most cherished scene for Remfags. The ammount of shitstorm would be hilarious to say the least. I wouldnt even discard death threats to the author
It feels as it's all the anime's fault.
The way the Subaru/Rem relationship is portrayed now in the LN flows better with how the anime ended but it still sucks since polygamy and confession still happened before the anime aired.
These changes can also be indicators for the 2nd season since arc 4 is now supposed to be as long as arc3 so they can fit arc 4-6 in the 2nd season and bring Rem back by the end.
In short fuck White Fox.
The double maid explosion.
Cross over manga looks great
I havent caught up with the arcs for im still in the middle of arc 4 buy you've mentioned Rem coming back at the end of arc 6? Are the events really flowing to that conclusion or is the tower just a ruse by the author? I get the feeling that Rem might possibly never return the way she used to be, if she comes back at all that is.
Of course the conspiracy theories would have to start sooner or later. Stop being on edge and just wait until the entire arc is written before you try to put blame on anyone, jesus.
The main goal of arc 6 is fixing Rem, they'd waste an entire arc if they didn't manage to do at least something. There's also some sideplots and shit blocked behind Rem needing to return, so it would be natural to the consequences of going to the tower and fixing Rem to feed the next arc's plot.
There sure is. They even fight the toad
>And remove Anastasia's spirit from her body.
>spirit is finally removed from her body
>Anastasia's first act is to present it with a bill for room and board
You know she would
How do I get past the login screen? I tried installing the extension on Chrome, making a new account of g.e-hentai, and using that account to log in to exhentai but I kept being kicked back to the login screen.
>Welp some asshole killed mai daughteru
>Guess I'll wipe out all life on the planet
What the hell, Puck?
I had a lot of issues like that too anon, if you have patience, just make an account on the ehentai forum and wait about 2 or 3 weeks and you should get the clearance to enter exhentai, at least thats what i did, its the easiest method but also the longest.
Start saving all the cum for that special doujin.
Oh okay. Hopefully the other doujins I'm looking for are on that site too so it will be worth the wait.
> Start saving all the cum for that special doujin.
I can't fap to Re:Zero dounjins sadly. I will feel guilty for treating my favorite characters like some kinds of fap material.
Uhm assuming it is changed ( which is rather unlikely ) then you have no idea what the other 50% of the arc look like so you would get way too ahead of yourself in blaming someone for anything.
>I can't fap to Re:Zero dounjins sadly. I will feel guilty for treating my favorite characters like some kinds of fap material.
What would your favorite character be, anon? Im bicurious now
Even if they give us another scenes later in this arc, there's no way they'll as good/impactful as this one. So even then I will blame someone for it and if they somehow manage to do it justice then I'm gonna feel like a retard and apologize.
sup bro. Still trying to save my waifu here. Any chance I can restore her back to normal?
It was very obvious to know which characters I like desu. I don't know why that anon asked me that question.
Again you don't know what will be changed or even added in the rest of the arc, so that is a big claim, one I wouldn't dare to make since I'm not present within the writing process. But oh well to each his own.
When Rem wakes up how will she react to Petra?
If emilia is a half-elf, how come we never seen a full elf?
Fourier was 100 times more of a man than Subaru can ever be. Bro to Ferri, almost husband to Crusch-sama.
She'll bargain for the job of washing Subaru's undies
>Neither Petra nor Rem would have such an interest in men's underwear