this will go down in history as the worst gundam series of all time
Japan is comparing Orga to Ezalcant, hilarious because at least the audience knew Ezal was the villain
S1 IBO wasn't just boring, its literal dogshit and that's not even going into its handicap of QUALITY and terrible fight choreography. The show makes AGE look good. Hell it makes GBF Try look fucking good.
episode 38 and the show finally gave up and started going into full retard. The ride's only beginning. The ship has started sailing into ironic masterpiece territory, but it doesn't have much time left.
>I'd rather rewatch G-Saviour
You know what, you're right. We've now passed this point.
I can't believe we're actually there but we are.
>You could be watching Gurren Lagann
>You could be watching GaoGaiGar
>You could be watching Evangelion
>You could be watching Shin Mazinger
>You could be watching the Original Gundam
>You could be watching Majestic Prince
>You could be watching GunXSword
>You could be watching Code Geass
>You could be watching Fafner in the Azure
But instead, you watch this shitshow.
How do you live with such shittaste
I like it. Gundam 00 was enjoyable but about the same. Also the cluster fuck known as G-reco exists so yeah and if you didn't bother with G-reco, IBO is a hell of a lot more coherent and more competent no question.
You could and probably should be on reddit right now but instead you are here spreading cancer.
This thread is hilarious. I love you guys and your shit posting today.
G-reco did suck. But it was a fun kind of suck for long time fans. I just feel bad for people who thought it would be great for babies' first gundam. Pretty hilarious though in hindsight.
>tfw I knew better and stopped at season 1
Watching season 2 of any gundam is a mistake.
>People bitch and moan about latest gundam
>"Gundam is dying"
>Bandai hobby and Sunrise laugh as they roll around in a Scrooge McDuck pool of profits and start planning the next 3 series.
>Rinse and repeat with every gundam series
Thats a really stupid philosophy. The second season almost right out of the gate has more action then the first ten episodes of season one. You are missing out retard.
at least G-Reco has good production values and I say this as someone that doesn't care about it, even it's QUALITY moments are competent compared to many examples like pic related
Seconding because 00 improved over time
I notice you didn't add Argevollen and Valvrave to your list of mediocrity (except for MSG and MJP, obviously, those were based). Is that an implication that you find IBO superior in every respect to Valvrave and Argevollen?
And yet it takes absolutely no effort to be right, amazing!
IBO's gunpla is doing as bad as AGE's is as well as terrible ratings.
Not saying much considering how terrible season 1 is and season 2 is still pretty bad itself.
It's a complete deconstruction of everything Gundam has been up until this point.
I can understand how some fans wouldn't care for that, but my favorite Gundam until now has been 08th MS Team, so I appreciate the grittier tone.
>favorite gundam up till now
>08th MS Team
>'desconstruction of everything Gundam'
Nope. Also complete trash from writing, overuse of exposition, long stretches of nothing happening, Kudelia's uselessness, MIkazuki being a less emotive and blander Setsuna/Heero/Chirico clone, terrible fights, terrible animation, etc...
IBO is really really showing how Sunrise is turning into the new Toei.
>G-Rektards are so deep down in their shit that they genuinely believe that only one person hates their universally hated show
I wish I saved that anons explination from a few weeks ago about how IBO is the biggest letdown not because it's bad, but because it had so much potential that was just soiled by Okada. I thought it was a pretty good approximation of the series.
I like IBO though, but that doesn't mean I don't acknowledge it's flaws.
>Destiny was entertaining
No. SEED was, Destiny was slow suicide with recap episodes, recycled animation and the worst ending in the entire franchise.
>When you wish with all your heart to pilot the giant robot for your friends
LOOK AT THAT DREAM COME TRUE
Look its the faggot that shat up the Fafner thread! Change your fucking filenames next time
instead of glorifying battles with a giant robot toy commercial, okada is showing us the negative repercussions of war by stripping away that newtype shine. sasuga, okada, you're hleping to save anime alongside Yamakan.
>Even GBF has more followers than G-Reco
/m/, /co/, and Japan don't like it, most of IBO's praise comes from newfag sites in the west with /a/ being divided
>Destiny was slow suicide with recap episodes
It only had six and compared to most recap eps by sunrise they were good, watch more of their old mecha stuff to see truly bad recapping
>but because it had so much potential that was just soiled by Okada
No it's actually nagai who's stopping okada from making the show fun and by fun I mean things like your webm.
>and literally any internet community other than /m/
Nobody actually give a fuck about it on /m/, but shitposters just keep it rolling just like Zeta.
>Nobody actually give a fuck about it on /m/
Thanks for the laugh
I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic in that post.
Some model builder website did a poll ANN never published because that would portray G-Reco in a favorable light.
>good Gunpla sales
>lots of merchandise
Give an amount and compare it to every major gundam entry.
>popular on Pixiv and Twitter
Only because it is airing, once it isn't it will fade
>comparing a show that aired at early mornings for small children with a show that aired in the midnight/late night slot
>wondering why one has more then the other
Who would've thought?
IBO is also failing on Toonami apparently.
I've never seen a fanbase try so hard to get recognition only to get the cold shoulder from audiences.
>>People bitch and moan about latest gundam
>>"Gundam is dying"
Is this a thing with every new gundam show, I am going through the franchise and I just finished Zeta and started ZZ.
>IBOfags in a nutshell
>the hell was this?
G-Reco fans are Blood Angels, IBO fans are Black Legion, ANN is the crystal palace. Macross World being the brass fortress is fitting, I've been there and the amount of nerd rage is insane, makes /a/'s WWD threads look civil.
>Super Robot Wars Fans: /m/ equivalent of the Deathwatch. The biggest gamers on the board (obviously) and is composed mostly of people from other factions due to the franchise's crossover heavy minutia. Fans from both sides of the Pacific fight a common xenos foe, in their case some guy named Mist.
I'll take more Age before more Iron Blooded Failure
>but G-Reco is more popular!
Do you think we'll ever have a post 2000's Gundam that we'll all like? That someday, in 2025 or 2035, we'll get a series everyone agrees is pretty good? Or will Gundam forever be tainted to have every new installment universally hated.
Can't we all just get along and admire the mechs?
soon actually if we are lucky.
My dick needs it.
I think the only big problem with IBO is the sheer amount of QUALITY and the uninspiring mobile suit designs.
It has the exact opposite problem G-Reco had. It has the story and the character development, but is lacking in the actual animation department.
>the uninspiring mobile suit designs.
>d the uninspiring mobile suit designs.
What drugs are you on and where do I get some? IBO has some of the best mecha design that I've seen, it even have Vidar, pretty much perfection in design form.
>Everyone has a boner for it.
Can't blame them though.
>Everyone has a boner for it.
Of course, I question the sanity of the someone that don't have a boner for Vidar. Never mind Gundam - it's among the best mechanical design ever.
Vidar is sexiness given mechanical form.
>Yfw Yamagi gets a pounding, but not the kind of pounding he wants.
Japs have sakuhindb and anikore. Their ranking of Gundam series couldn't be more different but they both rank G-reco pretty low.
I think IBO is the worst Gundam. What good qualities does it have? I honestly can't think of any, except for mecha design.
Stay triggered ANN scum.
Only Kimaris and Vidar are decent. Grazes and their successor/variants are just further watered down versions of mixed inheritance design wise from Flags, Leos, and GMs and Zakus. Almost all of the other MS designs like the Gusion and so on are god awful.
Pacing is better, Vidar, a lot more action, less Kudelia and the horrible writing that tend to follow her, Vidar, the antagonists are much better and actually managed to fuck Tekkadan a bit, the whole MA thing is neat, Vidar.
Mind you, there's still some really stupid shit, but nothing close to dort.
>It only had six
Jesus, you say "only" like that redeems the fact.
>Is Vidar the new Exia? Everyone has a boner for it.
Basically yeah. You have to admit, it's a pretty awesome design like Exia was.
To put the graph a bit into context, stuff like Thunderbolt and possibly Turn A and a few others are really low due to the type of kits they have. The majority of Turn A's kits are from around the year 2000 and are poor quality and hard to work with compared to modern kits in addition to not getting reprinted much, making them harder to get a hold of. Thunderbolt is probably that low because before the two MG came out all there was were the HG from a couple years ago when the mange first started coming out and those kits are a massive pain to work with if you paint because of the seam lines and tiny thrusters everywhere. During the OVAs airing when it reached peak popularity they also didn't release any new HG, they just re-released the old HG with new box art and slightly tweaked colors. There are some new kits coming in the spring though.
Compairively, IBO has currently had a big push with its gunpla and bandai has been making sure that they are super affordable, plus the simple inner frame is a really popular feature among modelers.
There will always be at least a handful of people who legitimately dislike an entry, as well as hipsters/contrarians. That said the first season of build fighters came pretty close by the midway point in the series. It was well received by lmost everyone who picked it up.
So what weapon is the repaired Barbatos going to use?
>AGE still exists
>Build Fighters still exists
>G Gundam still exists
>Destiny still exists
>G Reco still exists
>UC still exists
>Turn A still exists
>G Saviour still exists
Graze Ein is the only good thing to come out of this, what a waste of an awesome mech. I want to get an HG, but I'm not giving money to support trash.
Try at least gave us Tryon 3
So is Mikazuki asking constantly about Barbatos just him wanting to pilot more since hes a cripple or is it something more than that?
Also is he gonna crash and burn? This seems pretty unhealthy. He may be the autist but even so even he has to have a limit right?
Firstly, it's impossible to take any board that thinks RWBY is quality entertainment seriously, so fuck /co/. Secondly, it's impossible to take someone that can't even use the proper form of 'repulse' in a sentence seriously, so fuck you.
here you go, just looked at the filename
For those that don't get it click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5UXfU7PSdM
Because Hush is his wheelchair. Plus it will make every serious scene funny.
>Tekkadan has the arcs boss cornered.
>Everyone looking serious.
>Hush walks into the room carrying Mika over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.
>Spins around so that Mika is facing the villain.
>Mika pulls out his gun and shoots the villain, missing several times due to his bad eye.
>This is their ace.
you didn't say the meme in question had to be good!
shit series deserves a shit meme. that and macros are over used to death.
Needs more Warhammer, Ein would have made a fine Angron
00 is a good start, it's mostly it's own universe. To start with the Universal Century (UC) timeline watch the Gundam 0079 recap movies, the cut down the 40 episode show into 3 movies.
00 is really Gundam's take on Asimov's Foundation trilogy.
Aeolia Schenberg = Hari Seldon (he even makes appearances)
Veda = Seldon's Psychohistory
Celestial Being = The Foundation
Team Trinity = The Second/First foundation conflict (Seldon/Schenberg's preferred child syndrome)
The Alejandro Corner scene where he's talking to the objects is reminiscent of the four men scene in Foundation and Awakening of the Trailblazer has Trantor aesthetics whilst the nucleic power (example personalised forceshields) are quite reminiscent in 00.
Are Tekkadan are the villains? I actually like IBO but I'm confused by the moral ambiguity of the narrative with them. Tekkadan are terrifying. They're doing deals with the mob, they have a private military mercenary company, they are doing deals with McGillis, they basically shrug at the thought of each other dying as long as they can obtain power one day, and their goal isn't even a noble one like peace or no fighting...it's literally power, to rule Mars, to get big paychecks for life.
They're a bunch of little monsters.
You can't go wrong with really any gundam AU series from the last 20-30 years.
War is hell man. The series does a good job of not keeping things black and white like some lame kid's series. There are no bad guys. There is only the choice to pull the trigger so that the guy in front of you doesn't pull the trigger on you himself.
I actually like Tekkadan, unpopular opinion, but I think they are a bunch of little sociopaths and are terrifying and there is nothing noble about them, and the older members are not even sympathetic anymore. Which I enjoy.
I thought 00 was retarded, if only because it had awful politics. But then I remembered that most Gundam has awful politics and sounds stupid when it tries to do it. UC's original zeon+earth fed stuff was great before it got too convoluted and stupid after 0079 and zeta.
Because he's the coolest fucker.
I want to brush Atra's fluffy hair
I'm sending the small potato sack behind my foot to silence you for good.
>season 2 has actually been pretty consistent with keeping the action moving
>00S2 wasn't either but hated because it squandered all the hype of the ending of the first season on "lol trans am raiser"
That's like saying that digimon 02 is bad because "muh taiora".
I really like this show and I want to see humanity vs space rapists round 2.
And with the ending, the latter faction is still around with a large force, only now they'll need much more time to come to earth.
>top 10 ranking of works debuted from October 18, 2015 to October 18, 2016
>7. Gundam IBO - 17,238
Same. I like how the series does go out of its way to point how wrong their actions are at times making sure to not glorify their methods of war but hesitation in their line of war means death. A PMC kills according to their client. Especially Mika as the protagonist is a refreshing change of pace compared to your average MC pilot that eventually tires of the war and death and just wants peace. Not that I think its a bad thing at a certain point senseless death needs to end but its nice to see a pilot approach things with cold precision not since 00 I think have we seen such a brutal kill hell maybe even Wing.
Or maybe they really don't like IBO.
It has glorified their actions more than a few times and has largely limited their enemies to pirates, MA, Gjallarhorn and a country's military during a small border conflict.
I don't think they're sociopaths so much as this is all they've ever known. Mika might be, but even he reflects on the idea that he might enjoy killing.
They literally exist in a different frame of mind than you or I, and their morality is shaped around loyalty. Remember - they also spared those kids until they opened fire on them and that act of self-defense (plus the loss of their comrades) fucked Shino up.
People only dislike ZZ because it isn't as good as it's predecessor, which is one of the best anime ever made.
IBO is shit because it's boring, it has dogshit production value, and it treats the viewer like a retard
I just don't get all the shit people give them. They don't torture animals, they don't shoot people indiscriminately. They're soldiers fighting a war.
Gjallahorn is far worse, so are McMurdo and Nobliss Gordon. Tekkadan might be fuzzy grey, but they're about the best people we've met so far in this dark and bleary world. I mean shit, CGS used to buy kids, force them to take a dangerous surgery (without any anesthesia), and abandon the ones who were crippled and abused the every living fuck out of the survivors - and that's nothing compared to the fucking Brewers.
They're not traditional heroes, but they're the best damn thing we've got and I'd rather they were in charge of things than everyone else. They did the orphanage, right? That wasn't Kudelia? Does it matter - she's basically Tekkadan in all but name.
>I just don't get all the shit people give them.
Part of it is shitposters projecting their hate of the show onto the protagonists.
Part of it is gjallarhorn fags being butthurt about Tekkadan reking it all season long.
Part of it is the muh stakes crowd who wants edgy drama and character death.
Get that hippy propaganda out of my face.
AEUG are just a bunch of filthy treehuggers.
Regardless of your opinion on either series, they at least did something. IBO is just a none-series. It's nothing, it has FUCK ALL going on.
It's just boring, even things that are bad are better than shows that are boring, at least bad shows have something going on to talk about, IBO just doesn't exist.
The fuck are you people talking about? We've had battles almost every other episode. There's been
a revolution, space battles, ship to ship battles, infantry combat, a giant killer terminator robot.
Jesus Christ you're like children. Go rewatch Wing and get the fuck out.
Yeah the last few episodes had some pretty cool action
We were told about it, never actually saw anything happen other than
Vidar killed a bunch of nameless rebels & Tekkedan killed a bunch of nameless pirates
The ONLY arc in IBO that was good, and it's been over for awhile now
Meaningless mini-boss bullshit set up for Mika to be the most sugoi guy around
Oh well fuck me, I'm sorry if the liberation of Mars and the survival of the protagonists is boring. Apologizes if the
mobile armorthey JUST defeated isn't entirely realized in the plot yet. I suppose they should've told us immediately what every little thing will mean in the future.
Yeah, except for all that
>I'm sorry if the liberation of Mars
As far as the viewer is concerned mars hasn't fucking changed, nothing has impacted, nothing has mattered. Just because the show says something doesn't mean it has any impact. It's like it reads off a list of "here's stuff that's happened" great, maybe make it mean something.
Tekkadan could be in the exact same position as it was at the start of the damn series for all the actual change that's happened.
Speaking of which, I
miss these tits.
>Tekkadan could be in the exact same position as it was at the start of the damn series for all the actual change that's happened.
They have new recruits, a ton of fucking mobile armor, new space ships, and
You are so unbelievably full of shit.
> "nothing happened!"
> "this this and this happened"
> "b-but i didn't like it and can write it in a way that makes it sound like it was nothing"
seems to me the main problem people have is the low named kill count, because that is totally the best indicator of good fiction
akame ga kill is a fucking masterpiece for these people i guess, lots and lots of battles and useless deaths! just like muh Tomino!
Which is funny because
she was barely there at all, I just liked these boobs. I kept expecting her to be Kudelia's secret bodyguard or something.
I love it. I was worried how they were going to follow up, but everything seems to be shaping up nicely.
One died rehashing the stupid human debris drama, the other is useless, there's a big guy who I guess is a mechanic, and the last is an idiot but is actually smart
They never do anything
Spaceships which haven't seen use outside of being a decoy 18 episodes ago
What difference does it make when Barbatos is the only one allowed to shine?
Nobody cares about the kill count. Plenty of named characters died in season 1, the issue is the characters were too flat for anyone to care about them, and their deaths changed very little.
Except Biscuit, him dying actually developed some of the characters a little.
3 nameds died in s1
the first was just there to estabilish that the evil adults didn't care about the orphans
the second was just there to make Kudelia wake the fuck up
the third set Orga in a path of autodestruction because the wise sounding manlet is actually just autistic
> Fumitan was flat
>the first was just there to estabilish that the evil adults didn't care about the orphans
They told us that for the first time in episode one then repeated it every following episode.
>Practically owning a planet?
How has owning the planet changed their day to day operations as far as the viewer is concerned?
not at all. They were basically the de-facto owners of mars as far as we could tell from season 1 because no one could stand up to them anyway. As far as the viewer is concerned if you break it down it's practically the same, they have a couple new faces, that's it. Season 1 could have basically just been them kicking the adults out and running Tekkadan as their own operation and nothing would really have changed.
events have happened but these events havne't -really- changed anything, they were meaningless. All of season 1 except for like 2 things, the adults being kicked out and them joining Teiwaz basically don't matter. So far all of season 2 has been the same it didn't matter at all.
>after kicking the adults out Tekkadan were a PMC with a lot of power
>after everytihng that has gone on Tekkadan are a PMC with a lot of power + they're part of the mafia
this is basically all that's happened, you know wht mabye I'd give yout hat McGillis is getting involved, but so far he's not involved enough for it to matter! (it looks like he's about to be and that's going to cause tension between mafia and them)
And not only taht, only 1 character has really grown. Mika has managed to lose all his limbs and still be the exact same character somehow!
I wanna compare this to gundam 00 cuz it had the same half season format.
>start of 00 gundams on top, by this point in season 2 they were basically the underdogs
>IBO they were top dog, managed to become more top dog
They were on top, still on top, they haven't changed in a meaningful way like the characters in the more character driver stories like 0079, the events havent shifted like they do in the more event driven series. What's happened? nothing. We've moved about as far characterisation wise in 37 episodes as we did in 7-12 of 0079. And events wise we've moved like 5 episodes of 00, even less of wing.
>no one could stand up to them anyway
They, or at least Orga, was aiming to make their presence 'legit' so that in the long run, they don't have to keep fighting to defend their territory.
>events have happened but these events havne't -really- changed anything, they were meaningless.
Yes, execution wise, IBO is terrible at the whole "show, not tell" thing. Most of the important stuff are done through narration rather than actually showing the stuff. Nevertheless, things did change, because again, they did narrate it to tell you thing(s) happened (albeit in the background). That they suck at showing it is another issue entirely.
More to the point, CGS was a runt outfit that was mismanaged. Then they lost half their members and most of the cash.
Orga might as well be fucking Big Boss. Or Venom Snake, since Tekkadan seems like Diamond Dogs.
>that one gundam that "barely worked" was so far ahead of everything else nothing was a threat.
Yeah totally not top dog.
I just wanna point out how slow this is and how little development there actually is, within the first few episodes of 0079 Amuro's entire motivation had flipped from desperation to pride. Everyone in IBO is basically static, there's a few changes for orga but it's 2-3 episodes worth of change, not 30.
Episode 1: One Gundam that barely worked but still dominated every battle in the series
Episode 38: One Gundam that breaks down every other episode, a Gundam that shot at rocks one time, and another Gundam that apparently killed 100 redshirts alone offscreen
Except they have no idea what either of them want, much less that they actually want anything out of either of them (to the degree that they'd manipulate either of them).
They're naive kids and I'm glad the show hasn't pulled away from that. Fuck, without Naze around Orga would be even more lost than he already is.
>They, or at least Orga, was aiming to make their presence 'legit' so that in the long run, they don't have to keep fighting to defend their territory.
His goal has changed half a dozen times.
>Everyone in IBO is basically static
I'll redirect you to an interview with Nagai/Okada in one of the books where it has been stated that this is a deliberate choice in order to show that characters, people don't change easily.
Not really. His overarching goals didn't change. It's the specifics that does, since by the end of the day, it's not like he's smart or educated enough to plan properly to ensure he actually concretely achieves his long term goal.
That's a really lazy way of saying 'it's meant to be badly written'.
Tekkadan veterans were already shaped by their stay at CGS, it's not all that new to them what Tekkadan is doing. In fact they change in ways that make them seem more like normal kids after the whole coup and establishing a family.
Hush and Zack are the newcomers whom do change and react as you'd expect a newcomer do.
But at least now you can stop bitching about IBO "failing" at something that was a conscious decision.
>But at least now you can stop bitching about IBO "failing" at something that was a conscious decision.
Not really, no. See >>151646006
If anything, this makes it deserves to be mocked even more.
>show that characters, people don't change easily.
Crank dies ;_;
Ein is never the same changes his entire life for the sake of his commander
Sugoi Girl changed into a Maiden of Sugoilution on the spot
Literally everyone in Tekkedan changes for 5 episodes and Brownman goes into a never ending state of full retard
Char kills his best friends
Doesn't change at all
Garma goes from a hothead to cool & calm Darth Vader
>Not really. His overarching goals didn't change. It's the specifics that does, since by the end of the day, it's not like he's smart or educated enough to plan properly to ensure he actually concretely achieves his long term goal.
His overreaching goal was really vague to begin with.
I'd say he at least is going in a different direction with the whole king of Mars thing, because its no longer about being successful and more about being in control.
They did say "people don't change easily", not that they don't change whatsoever. It's hard to change a person, their habits, way of thinking ect, unless something profoundly disturbing or illuminating happens to them.
>its no longer about being successful
Was it ever about being siccessful? It was more about stability, growth as well but mostly about having a place of their own with no one bothering them. Then it became about being in power because apparently more powers means more stability to Orga.
>hurr durr, its been done, so it can't be bad!
Get some self awareness before you call others retard, retard. So what it's been done before? It means and justify fucking nothing. If it's bad, it's bad.
>have been a thing since forever.
How does that have anything to do with whether the work is good or not? Yeah, no shit,lazily written crap has existed before IBO, wow big deal. You're the retard for bringing irrelevant shit into the argument. IBO fags sure are getting more and more desperate at defending their shit show.
It's not bad if it serves a purpose, many stories have been written about characters who're refusing to change and what not. Static characters are also used to highlight a change occurring around them. Characters in IBO aren't completely static though, they make it a point that Mika doesn't change, that's his thing, but characters like Orga and some more prominent Tekkadan members did change a bit.
The goal is peace; ruling Mars is just a means to that end for them because they don't see any other way to get it but take it. That's why Orga jumped at McGillis's "I'll give Mars to Tekkadan if you be my bitch crew and get me in charge of Gjallarhorn" bait, it's accomplishing the means to that peace end he wants for his boys.
Of course, when McGillis fucks them over because all anyone's done for these kids up until they revolted against CGS is fuck them over, they'll come to realize that any peace being given is a peace not worth having.
They actually had their biggest shot at peace when they were deciding what to do with Kudelia.
They bring conflicts to themselves.
The problems with Naze were because they stole CGS property.
The conflict with Gjallarhorn was because they harbored their enemy and from that they had to fight the Brewers.
Their involvement in the conflict on earth was because they started a branch there in service to a government which was sparking tensions.
The conflict with the newer pirates spawned from them expanding their interests.
They just stick their nose into something and are surprised every time when someone tries to break and shit goes downhill until Mika fixes it.
>Their involvement in the conflict on earth was because they started a branch there in service to a government which was sparking tensions.
>The conflict with the newer pirates spawned from them expanding their interests.
Literally just expanding their company is a bad thing now?
You completely ignore the fact that they were in dire financial situation after Maruba took off with most of the treasure.
You completely ignore the fact that they NEEDED that job as their sole source of income.
You completely ignore being told that there are no jobs on Mars unless it's the shitty ones where they'd be treated like fodder again for someone else agenda.
You basically tell them to suck it up and grovel in martian dirt like they had for most of their youth.
Sure, it aint easy, but taking risk is better than sitting on their asses and waiting for some rogue organisation usurp their turf after the news spreads that CGS has been deserted by its leaders.
>They just stick their nose into something and are surprised every time when someone tries to break and shit goes downhill until Mika fixes it.
Nobody's surprised, they just face every obstacle head on unlike a bunch of whiny do-nothings on 4chan.
>You completely ignore the fact that they were in dire financial situation after Maruba took off with most of the treasure.
>You completely ignore the fact that they NEEDED that job as their sole source of income.
Hitler had an idea
>You completely ignore being told that there are no jobs on Mars unless it's the shitty ones where they'd be treated like fodder again for someone else agenda.
Are you trying to be ironic?
>Sure, it aint easy, but taking risk is better than sitting on their asses and waiting for some rogue organisation usurp their turf after the news spreads that CGS has been deserted by its leaders.
No matter what they did after they managed to beat back Gjallarhorn once they would seem more formidable than CGS.
>Nobody's surprised, they just face every obstacle head on unlike a bunch of whiny do-nothings on 4chan.
Orga obviously is if he was upset other groups would mess with them.
>blaming Tekkadan when they have it too easy
>blaming Tekkadan when the world doesn't bend to their desires
It still doesn't change the fact someone who was supposed to help them, betrayed them instead.
Hell the guy is literally the reason for why the war was even prolonged that long.
What that guy did was completely out of their control.
Its not like he was the one who got them involved. The whole conflict was started by the bearded man largely over the events of last season.
He exploited someone who had to be recently added to their organization.
Either way its not like it should be surprising that shit would go down on earth.
>worse than Seed Destiny;AGE or G-rekt
I mean yes, the first season was kinda wonky, bot the second is pretty great:
>Darth Vidar vs ChocoChar
>Local man ruins everythong
>new Tekkaden characters are actually somewhat interesting
>Guts killing stuff with giant metal shears
>Julie being totaly tsun-tsun for our masked antagonist
>Alot of raised (death) flags
S2 is actually ok.
>bot the second is pretty great:
>Darth Vidar vs ChocoChar
Are you being sarcastic?
Not the OP, but I can answer why i like it. It's pretty simple: I get attached to the concepts, I find the way they are showing the protagonist's position different than what we pretty much always see, not just in gundam, but anime in general. "Different" doesn't mean interesting to a lot of people for good reasons, but for me it is interesting. I also enjoy Gjallarhorn and overall the series is just nice to follow. I don't really love it or get obsessive over it or want to talk about it much but I tune in every weekend and am invested to see where Orga's shitty journey is taking all of Tekkadan, as well as if Vidar will have his revenge.
There's plenty I don't enjoy, but that's more of what I don't enjoy about most anime and most gundam shows. It also definitely has a pacing problem, which again, isn't unique to it, but I understand the criticism.
i like it too, i just don't see the point in talking to people who don't like it. it's not like i'm going to convince them to change their preferences, so i mostly just watch these threads and laugh at the good memes that come out of them. i'm not really defensive of ibo but i do like it a lot.
Mika's sociopathic autism is fun to watch. I find Mika and Orga's obviously unhealthy relationship interesting and I wish they focused more on it. The Tekkadan crew has a lot of likable characters like Eugene, Shino and Akihiro. Also last episode showed me they can make a decent battle if they tried. I don't know if it's the budget or some other reason why they don't do it.
I'm no /m/fag and this is my third Gundam show after 00 and GBF so I might just have shit taste.
Mechanical design, sound design, character design, soundtrack, protags not being moralfags or angels of peace, the overal style of the setting. Mafia element and a hefty dose of true grit.
What I do not like: the writing, not series composition in general, but the dialogue writing sucks a bit, might be just shitty translation but the dialogue tries to blend in exposition and hardly ever manages to do so seamlessly.
>I get attached to the concepts, I find the way they are showing the protagonist's position different than what we pretty much always see, not just in gundam, but anime in general. "Different" doesn't mean interesting to a lot of people for good reasons, but for me it is interesting
Not sure what you're getting at there.
>it's not like i'm going to convince them to change their preferences
Having a different preference doesn't make them bad.
You can't really point out something positive or negative in these threads without a ton of shitposting.
G-Reco claims yet another victim.
>Mika's sociopathic autism is fun to watch
this so much.
>Macky: this is a mobile armor it's sole purpose is to destroy every human life in existance.
>Macky: Back when they were still in active during the calamity war 300 years ago they annihilated 1/4 of humanities population, what do you make of it Mikazuki?
>Murdermanlet: It's fucking beautiful.
I laughed, I love that little murderpotato so much.
How bad is this actually? I mean, I see people calling it worse than Destiny, but then, I've also seen people calling it worse than Skelter Heaven, and that's definitely not true, so I can't really tell how much of this is just shitposting.
Only elitist fucklicks, /m/aggots, and shitlord armchair psychologists from pampered hippie homes hate IBO.
>the second is pretty great
>Darth Vidar vs ChocoChar
Liteally watching paint dry on one side and no fuck to give on the other. That's 13 episodes.
>Local man ruins everythong
>new Tekkaden characters are actually somewhat interesting
In no way whatsoever.
>Guts killing stuff with giant metal shears
That made up for what? 2 minutes of screntime out of 13 episodes?
>Julie being totaly tsun-tsun for our masked antagonist
Trying to make the Vidar watching paint dry less dull I guess.
>Alot of raised (death) flags
Basically this show in a nutshell : nothing happens.
>S2 is actually ok
It isn't overly putrid for sure but as proven by your list, there's nothing to talk about with nothing happening.
I thought it was hilarious.
just like this scene.
I don't understand where I implied that having a different preference makes them bad. I actually didn't say that at all, I honestly believe that these threads get very disingenuous, even valid and well known criticism of IBO gets exaggerated to a point where there isn't a reason to engage. I don't mind if people dislike it though, I think most mecha anime sucks in general and I know I'm liking a niche thing when I enjoy it.
>IBO is also failing on Toonami apparently.
Gundam Unicorn will replace it's timeslot. Also America will care about DBZ or something obscure or fun like Cross Ange or Monster Musume.
these are such shit
anyway IBO just like 00 would be an awful series to put on western tv, i don't know what they were thinking. most young teens and kids won't know what to make of it, or the boring politics exposition, and the ratio of distracting robot fights to talking about politics or hopes or dreams is very skewered, so of course it was bound to fail. it has the formulaic character types that could have succeeded in a series that wasn't a political heavy mecha show, but it was obvious no kids would give a fuck. not enough mecha fights to justify it, and "gundam" hasn't taken off in the west really since fujo wing and g gundam.
toonami has done well with shingeki no kyojin and naruto so it's not really a quality thing, the right shitty series can succeed. an anime where half the time is spent talking will absolutely not.
watching Mika's sociopathic bullshit is always enjoyable to me. Also i like Barbatos design/everything. Choco char and Darth Garma are interesting to me including the Latter's MS Oh i also forgot about Gusion Rebake
Bar for a couple, Gundam has always failed to take off here and has flopped. Maybe toonami thought IBO would be different because it seemed to have "hot blooded" characters, but none of those characters get a fraction of the focus as Kudelia, boring traveling, drawn out politics, and characters explaining to each other 500 Xs something about the plot or the world building.
it being a mecha anime where i dont have to worry that characters i like get killed off in a pretty explosion just so people can jerk off at how adult and mature the show is, for one
As a general rule, if the neckbeard hivemind irrationally hates it, it's probably good.
Using this metric I discovered kill la kill, IBO, space patrol luluco, etc.
It's easily one of the better gundams.
Its bad in the same way Argevollen and Asterisk are bad. As in its banal shitty rather than train wrecky shit.
I prefer trainwrecks but objectively mediocrity is better than trainwrecks
>she won't jump at a supposed traitor going against Rustal-sama's keikaku
Toonami should have aired Tiger & Bunny, Mai Hime or something original. If Sunrise doesn't have anything then I'm sure Toonami will be cancelled end of this year.
I don't know why casuals hate mecha.
>people confusing model popularity with show popularity
IBO is pretty popular among the modelers not necessarily because they really like the show, but because they like the design of the mechas (vidar, graze) and because apparently the kits are of good quality.
Furthermore, mainstream shit like twillight and a shade of grey should tell you that popularity=/=good show.
Watched and should have dropped
Watched and did drop like the shit it was
Gave 3 episodes of Eva with Hirai-shit, I'm not giving it a 4th
I guess I could give the other two a go, but since you recommended some absolute turds it wont be because I read your post.
Gundam Unicorn has good action sequences, good music and at first a decent premise (since it stole the original 0079 premise, which is such a great fucking premise that it has become a cliché by no).
Only the hardcore fans finds the first part bad (because they can spot where the show is imitating its predecessors or is laying it on too thick with the fanservice). It's the second act that drops the ball completely.