Was it autism?
if a man fuses with a woman would the result be a futa or a cuntboy
when two people fuse do they get each others memories and remember that time they did that lewd thing alone when no one was looking
is the fusion its own self or is it like two people operating own body together
Reminder that, seeing his friend being killed by a villain, Goku felt so angry that his hair turned golden and spikier and his eyes turned blue. It was autism from the start. Dragon Ball was never well written after the first fight against Vegeta. It's just a fun ride.
Fuck one anally, vaginally, orally, and receive a tit fuck from the other.
>super saiyan rage pushing the power of friendship to god levels
>mafuba doesn't kill you
>spirit bomb out of nowhere
>The overt and unnecessary Mai-Trunks plot/romance
>reconing potara fusion
>Black's power level and jumps never making any sense
>How unnecessarily convoluted Zamasu's plan is
>"I JUST DECIDED TO BECOME THE UNIVERSE"
>We had to get the omni-king to fix this piece of shit story arc in the end
Black arc was the most hot garbage piece of shit i've ever seen. Super was already on deviant art tiers with the recolor "god/golden" forms, the massive power gap wanking, and rehashing of shit.
But fuck, Black saga was just pure autism. It wasn't in the slightest in line with anything in the lore or story of dragonball, and makes up shit as it goes.
Why can't super just be a slice of life series with Beerus looming doom shit in the background?
Super Saiyan Blue Broly when?
Don't tell me /a/ wouldn't love seeing a Broly return
>witch and elder kai fuse
>they are still together despite witch not being a god
>Potara now runs out of energy and actually isn't any different from the dumb fucking fusion dance
>Manga stated the evil magic in buu's stomach canceled the magic of the fusion made by the potara.
>witch and elder kai fuse
>they are still together despite witch not being a god
The elder Kai was a god, so it worked.
Besides, he says they kept the potara fusion as a secret from the Ningen (even Shin didn't know about it), so it's fair he didn't know how it works with ningens.
>Manga stated the evil magic in buu's stomach canceled the magic of the fusion made by the potara.
That was just an unedecuated guess from Goku. GOKU. And if that was the case, then why did Gotenks stayed fused inside Buu for a time if the evil magic is supposed to cancel fusion?
Potara = magic
Fusion Dance = technique
thats why fusion dance fusion is much more potent allowing gotenks, who is made of 2 shitter SSJ1's without much training to surpass Goku at SSJ3 when fighting super buu.
False Legendary Super Saiyan. I don't care that Broly isn't canon, the forms are too damn similar for it to be a coincidence. Whoever designed Rage was almost certainly a Broly fan.
Super Saiyan Sin, because its a culmination of his time traveling sins against the Gods.
>Super Saiyan 2
>Ultra Super Saiyan 2
>Super Saiyan Blue
All bashed together thanks to time shenanigans.
Broly literally only exists because of Trunks and USSJ in the first place.
So we have a name for the transformation, but that still doesn't explain what the hell the transformation just is.
Like he is in his SS2 state, but he also has god ki. So what is he?
I said similar, not identical. Mostly the white blank eyes, the uncontrolled rage, the fact that they both had non-standard Ki, Broly's Ki has a green tinge in most depictions and Anger had separated blue and yellow Ki. What happens when you mix blue and yellow? Hmm, I wonder.
But every time he powered up when fighting Black or Zamasu after his rage boost he was able to go to that stage, whereas he always had the god ki in it.
I will agree that his god ki doubled when Goku and Vegeta gave him their ki, but in his SSA state he always the god ki in him.
He's using God Ki as a work around for USSJ2. Where USSJ2 has tons of strength but loses speed, he's using the God Ki to condense it around him, to keep the strength and the speed, since God Ki and SSJB tend to condense the muscles without losing any of the power.
Its just a workaround form he probably figured out from SSJB and SSJR and all the God Ki being leaked around.
Super is pretty shit compared to DBZ, and i never considered DBZ to be high-tier either.
At least super saiyan yellow powerup kinda resonates with the whole going batshit rage.
Super saiyan blue is retarded, i keep thinking its supposed to be all calm and ki control powerup but their spazzing out in rage as much as they ever were before.
Only saving grace is beerus honestly.
SS -> muscles on -> muscles off -> sparks on -> sparks off -> SS Anger
SSA isn't a SS2 in the same way isn't a "SS grade 2", but a new form above them. I'm genuinely surprised that people is too stupid to realize something Toei made so obvious.
Also reminder it's 超サイヤ人 怒り translated as "SS ANGER", not "rage"
when heroes gives broly the god and blue form.
just watch he will have the red hair in his ssj state look
the blue hair in his lssj state look.
they already gave him a second more powerfull ssj4 form ontop of his regular ssj4 form.
> super saiyan rage pushing the power of friendship to god levels
Trunks was already ridiculously strong as a SS2. Also he absorbed borrowed power towards the end.
> mafuba doesn't kill you
>spirit bomb out of nowhere
True, but not first time in series where a technique was made on the fly
> Trunks x Mai is bad
> Black's power level and jumps never making any sense
He took advantage of Goku's Zenkai. Also Atsushi Kido mentioned: "(Black) used Son Goku’s power as a base and evolved in his own, unique way"
> reconing potara fusion
Explained why Vegetto de-fused in DBZ. It wasn't Buu's "magic insides" because that would've instantly de-fused Gotenks too.
> "I JUST DECIDED TO BECOME THE UNIVERSE"
A god who wished for immortality, and he had his mortal body removed.
> We had to get the omni-king to fix this piece of shit story arc in the end
And used to lead into the Universe Survival Arc. Pretty sure the two Zeno's will have an important role for the arc.
The manga still has Trunks x Mai, and the Omni King being involved (Goku still got the button)
Everything else is still a maybe, since the manga's arc isn't over.
> Implying Trunks x Mai is a bad thing
yeah but it wore off after an hour
No it didn't. They retconned it ONLY for Vegeto because they couldn't use half of their brains to use Gogeta which would have made a lot more sense in the context of the current fight. Mainly the time they had fused.
If you by Dragonall Fusions, there's always a base body in each fusion, so it'd be either 100% girl or 100% boy physically (although you can end up with a male body and a girlish hair style or outfit or vice-versa).
>Gogeta which would have made a lot more sense in the context of the current fight
Potara = 1 hour
Fusion Dance = 30 minutes
SSB Gogeta would have cut the time that they were SSB Vegetto by half.
No, in the context of the current fight, Gogeta would have been a worse idea.
> It's not like they don't know the technique
Vegeta actually DOESN'T know the technique.
You think it's possible for him to learn AND master the dance in the heat of battle?
>Potara = magic
>Fusion Dance = technique
So fusing two bodies together is somehow realistic to you
>Janemba movie actually fits into the timeline
No it doesn't.
Vegeta is dead, and Gohan is continuing his Great Saiyaman antics.
Shouldn't he (and everyone else) be worried about Buu?
>SS1 Trunks is able to block and parry several attacks from SSR Black's Ki blade
>While SSGSS Vegeta gets "sneak attacked" in plain sight and done with stab of that same Ki blade
God Toei didn't even try.
> Toyofags are coming at full force
> ruining a good thread
Except Black is still much more threatening in the anime.
If you think the villain-fodder and jobber Black from the manga provides the same tension, you're lying to yourself
So basically this
>gets hit by a direct kamehameha from ssr black
>gets hit with the same amount of force that ktfo'd ssb goku
>should be completely obliterated or at least fatally wounded
>lol no he gets to tank it with his plot sueper armor because why not
>stronger than SS3
Wait, wasn't obvious?
>no muscles/energy fails
>introduced four arcs after SS3
>literally designed to be compared to SSB
Why not? I think the only question is if it's stronger or not than SSG
> point out shit writing
You mean like how SS2 Trunks = SS3 Goku?
Trunks said he couldn't beat Black at his best, yet SS2 Vegeta can toy with SS Black?
Not only was that shit writing on Toyo's part, he ruined a perfectly good villain by making him weakshit and losing his personality
Yeah, because characters are totally unable to evade clouds
> Implying Goku and Trunks were both at full-power before that attack
Do you know how stamina works?
Goku was concentrating on SSR Black for most of that fight, while Trunks had Future Zamasu.
Of course Goku was more exhausted
>I was happy pretending that Toei version makes sense, why you don't let me be happy?
and this. They don't even need their eyes they can sense Ki.
So did they retcon the last chapter of DBZ?
Or are we eventually gonna get Oob?
Isn't it supposed to be 10 years after the boo fight and Pan is 4.
So the current events are 6 years after the Boo fight.
SSJ3 is shit so no surprise there. Goku fucked up by wasting so many years with a form whose true power he can only use when he's literally dead.
Vegeta and Trunks being stronger due to only grinding the SSJ2 form makes sense.
>You mean like how SS2 Trunks = SS3 Goku?
You mean like literally the only Toyotaro inconsistency so far :^) ? Too bad Toei can't say the same
>he ruined a perfectly good villain
>salty fag crying because Black doesn't have the ridicolous ability to become stronger than his opponent if plot requires also he's not Shadow the Saiyan anymore
Could Super Buu or Kid Buu tangle with Beerus? Remember that SS3 Goku couldn't actually step to the crazy fucker, he had to rely on the Genki Dama.
Also Super Buu has the best theme song:
>What the fuck does that have to do
>being this retarded
Oh god, SSG was also a temporary form which was made permanent in the manga. Which also appears to be the case with Vegeta muh Bulma powerup.
>salty fag crying because Black doesn't have the ridicolous ability to become stronger
You mean zenkai?
Also doesn't change the fact that Black in the manga is BORING
And then he discovers he's literally unable to use his form's true power and it vanishes on him.
SSJ3 is all about short term gains. The idea that higher levels of SSJ like 2 and 3 are necessarily better is something that should really died a long time ago
>Is Super Buu aware that if you kill Kaio Shin Beerus dies?
Man, now I really wanna see Buu vs. Beerus. Someone (probably Satan or Goku) would tell him that, he wold set out to kill Kaioshin, then forget what he was even doing halfway through.
>Don't compare the two.
>Beerus said Goku was a genius for even being able to absorb SSG in the first place
And? Since Vegeta is able to go SSGSS too, this doesn't really help your case, besides that was God Ki not normal Ki.
>You mean zenkai?
You mean manga-Black?
zenkai = when a saiyan body is pushing near to death and recovers, become stronger
anime-Black cheated zenkai = lol if you punch me I become stronger than you xD
>not edgy masochist with scythe = boring
Here's your (You), enjoy it
Let it be known that a Toyocuck ruined the whole thread
Possibly damage-control since Toyo fucked up the Future Trunks arc pretty early in
>when a saiyan body is pushing near to death and recovers
It is good for spars in the sense Trunks is much weaker than Goku and he is trying to get a sense on where he is power wise.
Each form of SSJ drains more power as you go up so you end up wasting power on just keeping the form up. They are better on the short-term, but training the weaker forms gives you better gains in the long term. That's why post-BoG (Super Arc and Movie) Goku is only using his base, SSJ1, and God forms for the important stuff. SSJ2 and 3 are things he uses when he is testing people who are clearly weaker than him.
>ignoring Black literally stated since he's a Kaioshin in a saiyan body he become stronger every time he's hurt by Toeimagic
>Too bad Toei didn't remember the rules for his fight with SSB Vegeta
Gohan has the strongest super saiyan form. God? Pfft. Try Super Saiyan Salaryman.
Wrong fight, but yeah that one was strange too. For some reason after Vegeta beat the shit out of him, his weird non near death Zenkai stopped working.
Best part of the whole arc was when Vegeta gave Black a dressing down for stealing Kakarots body and expecting to have his combat experience/expertise. Super is garbage but it has its really hype moments.
>was a surprise
So? He see the gas, flies and say "fuck you ningens" and blast the gas cloud killing the heroes, really easy
Maybe you are retarded as anime-Black so you doesn't know how act properly against a shitty gas grenade
Because Black got angry. He said never used rage to get a power boost until then
Vegeta got a similar boost when Beerus hit Bulma
> "he should've..."
Stuff like that happens all the time
Also, judging by Future Zamasu's composure and comment, he didn't care. "Let them go, they'll have to come back eventually"
>he didn't care.
It didn't. Black just overpowered it with his rage boost.
The plan would probably involve setting Goku and Vegeta against each other, and indulging Beerus' appetite for Earth food, while he sneaks off and blows Kaio Shin away, destroying Beerus From there he only needs to deal with Whis!
> Toyotaro fucks up
> Toyocucks shifts the negative focus to Toei and events that happens later in the arc (that the manga hasn't even reached yet)
This is pretty smart actually...
Toyocucks in full damage-control mode
how are sales/ratings/whatever for super? are people dropping it yet? is toei gonna drop it too?
> Vegeta gets stabbed, losing to Black
> Vegeta gets zenkai, comes back and starts to overpower Black ("I am Vegeta-sama!! Scene)
> Black rages after being hurt by Vegeta, uses the rage boost to his advantage
Did you praise and adore Freeza, yet
>Toei fucks up 90% of episodes
>Toeishills were waiting for one inconsistency in the manga all this time to finally complain about the superior version
>"toyocucks in damage-control mode"
>You think it's possible for him to learn AND master the dance in the heat of battle?
>trunks learns mafuba from a youtube video in 15 minutes
>vegeta cant learn the fusion dance
>No threat whatsoever.
You mean like anime Black who got rekted by SS2 Goku and failed to kill Future Trunks and the resistance for atleast one year. When Super Buu kill off all the humans on Earth within seconds?
Quit reaching Toei shill.
i cant believe people like this shit, i hope they all die
>people aren't allowed to like the things I like
the difficulty for mafuba should be higher
fusion dance is just perfect body control which should be fairly easy for someone of vegeta's caliber
I still dont know how trunks learned mafuba from a phone when goku took all day from roshi to get it
no, they can like what i like
>who got rekted by SS2 Goku
Pretty close fight that got interrupted. It was nothing like how Vegeta humiliates Black in the manga
>Super Buu kill off all the humans on Earth within seconds
Black killed almost everyone save for a few. Would Super Buu think to check underground?
>Pretty close fight that got interrupted.
Sure because Goku almost passed out like Black did here right? >>151603018
>Black killed almost everyone save for a few.
>almost everyone save for a few.
Fucking Turtle was still alive, fuck out of here.
>Would Super Buu think to check underground?
Yes because he killed everyone except Satan and Tien.
See >>151601812 and >>151602559 and >>151602038
>Top kek Universe level threat being thwarted by regular humans using conventional means.
>b-but there's still a sense of danger
>Sure because Goku almost passed out like Black did
Still a very different fight. Watch SS2 Goku vs Black. It's nowhere near the same amount of humiliation that was the SS2 Vegeta vs SS Black fight.
Also, in the anime Black immediately said it was a good thing, and he'll get more "perfect" as a result, keeping the tension there.
I refuse to play your game. Ranfan was married to an off-screen Trunks (no affiliation with our Trunks) and only teases evil men who cannot resist temptation, Bulma has Vegeta, Chi-Chi has Son Goku, and Videl has Gohan. Mai was claimed by Trunks so she's out of the question. I cannot defile the purity of another man's woman. I'm not into NTR.
That's why I'd choose the only objectively pure woman. Best yet, I'd get both sides of her all to myself. Tien is gay so she's entirely pure. All she needs is a good man to love and protect and she'd turn over a new leaf. Plus she's a /k/ crossboarder so we have a lot in common.
I'd impregnate both versions of Launch for at least 2 kids, ass fuck her while shaking pepper on the bed, and have her give me head during a titfuck before ending with an hour long mating press. Then I'd put a ring on it, cuddle, and discuss our bright and shining future together. Our purity would produce the strongest earthlings. Our children would but only need to sneeze to turn into a SSJ. Goku would be wishing that Gohan was half the warrior as my son, and even Vegeta would blush downcast with shame after he see's a true elite while his kid fucks around with some 50 year old bitch who wished herself young. With Lunch as my wife I'd easily surpass Whis and Beerus, claim my victory at the multiversal tournament, defeat both Zeno and F. Zeno in a one-to-two handicapped fight to the death, spare and befriend them, and gain my own personal galaxy as a prize to be seeded by my offspring as a new planetary race born from my seed mingled through Lunch's glorious birthing faculties.
Then, and only then, do you have permission to reflect upon your shitty (You)-bait and realize the error of your ways, you insufferable heathen with shit taste and a fetish for defiling another man's woman. You're a sick bastard and I hope you feel ashamed of yourself. Be jealous at my nobility and love of the pure! Be jelly!!
I love you, Lunch.
It's a fucking turtle. You think Zamasu killed every fish and bug too?
He's more preoccupied with humans.
> Yes because he killed everyone except Satan and Tien.
Humans weren't hiding underground then, as they were during Black.
Yea twas pretty bad especially compared to the tourney arc before it which was actually pretty good.
The manga so far seems to be on the road to fixing a lot of the bullshit while keeping the most badass parts
>Black introduction being much better
>No multiple time hopping and jobbing
>in depth explanation of things like the time rings and trunks power level
>vegeta not jobbing
>black using super saiyan and not pulling rose out his ass
Its amazing people still don't think toyotaro is our guy.
It was a temporary stall. That's it.
> "ohh but humans were able to stall the villain a bit. Zero tension!"
Yes there is. And definitely much more than the manga (if the manga even has any)
>he thinks I'm doing this for humor
>SS2 Vegeta vs SS Black fight.
Please, he was doing fine until Vegeta went SSB and Vegeta was going all out unlike Goku who was fucking around in the anime fight and Black still looked like a wreck afterwards.
>Also, in the anime Black immediately said it was a good thing, and he'll get more "perfect" as a result, keeping the tension there.
You mean like Zamasu healing Black and saying that their one step closer to the Ultimate body in the manga? God the bias is real.
>vegeta not jobbing
Instead he makes the main villain job
Good move, Toyo
>he was doing fine until Vegeta went SSB
Lol no he wasn't. SS2 Vegeta was winning.
SSB was just overkill.
> You mean like Zamasu healing Black and saying that their one step closer to the Ultimate body in the manga?
One is a pretty close fight (even though Goku didn't go full-power)
The other was compete annihilation in Vegeta's favor...when Vegeta should've lost to SS Black as SS2 easily.
>Yeah lets have base Black magically stronger than SSB Vegeta
He wasnt though.
Black was just being cocky, smug self. But he was being pushed back as well. And then transformed.
>It was a temporary stall. That's it.
Yet, if they weren't stalled they would have won. So still a massive failure.
>Yes there is. And definitely much more than the manga
Sure, anime Black failed to kill Future Mai, Future Trunks and the resistance several times.
He been on this planet atleast one year and fail to do something Super Buu did in seconds.
Plus Goku and pals keep coming and going into the Future as they please because Black and Zamasu are to incompetent to stop them.
Oh the tension.
>Hey, guys, It's me, Toyotaro. You remember that about Trunks being SS3? Forget it
>"ruin an entire villain"
Try harder, toeishill.
>When has Toei gone this far?
When all villains are a joke because we know if they aren't strong enough, they become strong without excuse?
>manga-Hit's ki is weaker than Goku's, but his techniques make of he a good god tier adversary
>manga-Black is weaker than Goku, but a proper zenkai (once) makes it he stronger also allow it goes Rose
>anime-Hit's ki is weaker than Goku's, but his techniques make of he a good god tier adversary... then he becomes stronger before be defetaed because toei magic. Then Goku use a real technique to become stronger... but Hit becomes several times stronger again. Forget the techniques, this is the typhical shitty battle ala toei, just raw ki and punches and "I'M STRONGER THAN YOU NOW", "NO, I'M STRONGER THAN YOU NOW"
>anime-Black is weaker than Goku, but a proper zenkai makes it he stronger also allow it goes Rose... then he becomes stronger before be defetaed because toei zenkai magic. Then Goku finally surpass him.... but Black becomes stronger again (proper zenkai? No, cheated one). Then another one surpass him but Black becomes stronger again etc
We already know how the next villain will be in the anime, starts weaker than Goku, then becomes stronger and finally when protagonist will defead him [TOEI MAGIC] and villain becomes stronger and Toei can make 10 more episodes
>Sure, anime Black failed to kill Future Mai
Black's attitude and strength in the anime adds to the tension
Black jobbing in the manga (when he shouldn't have in the first place) takes away tension
>He been on this planet atleast one year and fail to do something Super Buu did in seconds.
That's because Goku Black is sadistic, and wants to kill the mortals by hand. He already did so on other planets (according to him), so he wanted to take his sweet time and annihilate mortals. You guys seem to forget that Super Buu killed them quickly so there wouldn't be any distractions.
It's like people forget the super saiyan transformations are multipliers. They even explain it right in the manga, trunks trained his base power level so he's much stronger as a ss2.
Ss2 also being basically the perfected form of super saiyan also means he has nuch better ki control than a ss3 goku would even if ss3 goku was stronger.
>Lol no he wasn't. SS2 Vegeta was winning.
And? He was still holding his own.
>One is a pretty close fight (even though Goku didn't go full-power)
>Sure because Goku almost passed out like Black did here right?
>The other was compete annihilation in Vegeta's favor
No shit, Vegeta was using SSB and going for the kill.
>when Vegeta should've lost to SS Black as SS2 easily.
No, he shouldn't have.
>His inability to kill the people he's trying to kill adds to the tension
>You remember that about Trunks being SS3? Forget it
But that's when he fucked up. This means Black is stronger than SS3 Goku
Yet Vegeta beats him as SS2.
> Uses Hit as an example
Hit was weak in the manga. And made the Goku vs Hit fight in the manga less epic.
I wouldn't count that as a plus.
People crying about black not being final fantasy final boss really have no right to complain about the story.
Any villain can feel threatening if they pull powers out the ass, remember that dumbass scythe thing? They didn't even try to explain that and that served absolutely no purpose but to drag the arc further.
In the manga black is at least a character and if anything feels more like a zamasu that took a body he didn't know how to use out of spite then a fanfiction evil goku.
Actually Buu did that, because others were stalling for time, while Piccolo trains Gotenks in HTC
He was like "I want to fight NOW"
They were like "Well why dont'chu kill some humans while you wait, huh?"
then he kills everyone with one attack "NOW!!!"
You really think Toriyama really sat on his ass one day while writing that Vegeto defused due to Buu's magical air within his body then proceeded to say
>Alright, 20 years from now i'll explain it in my Zamasu arc.
It's a recon, plain and simple.
Headcanon? Zamasu has an ego the size of Shenron's dick, do you really think he wouldn't to "These ningen need to suffer slowly"? Come on anon, there's headcanon and then there's common sense.
Piccolo should have said do it slowly.
>People talking about tension in Dragon Ball
Yes, headcanon. Black fucking destroys the time machine so that Trunks is trapped in the past. He did so because Trunks kept stopping him from killing the humans, he wanted to get shit over with. Pay attention.
>he wanted to get shit over with
Or he just wanted Trunks to stop running away.
Anyway was it ever confirmed that EVERY SINGLE LAST human was killed off by Buu?
How about people working in tunnels or deep underwater?
>Or he just wanted Trunks to stop running away.
Again, nice headcanon.
>Anyway was it ever confirmed that EVERY SINGLE LAST human was killed off by Buu?
The only humans apart from those on Kami's lookout left alive were Satan and Tien we didn't see anyone else.
>But that's when he fucked up.
That's the point you retard
Toyo fucked up saying Trunks is SS3 tier, it's a wrong statement, Toyo first inconsistency... and that's all. Is Trunks so strong? Isn't. How that ruins Black? Because his base isn't stronger than SS3 Goku as anime-Black? If you don't remember, "beyond god" state isn't a thing in the manga but SSB still the same
base manga-Goku < base anime-Goku ("beyond god") < SSB manga-Goku = SSB anime-Goku
Same for Black, manga-Black base can't be equal to anime one, even if his Rose form is SSB tier too
In the manga, Goku had to use strategy to beat Hit during the whole fight.
In the anime, once Hit is already defeated he "growns stronger" and fucks the whole fight. Hit is supposed to be an assassin based on special techniques, but Toei can't handle something like that so how ends? "I'm stronger than you" "no, I'm stronger than you now". No more techniques, strategy or menace, just two guys screaming until Toei finally ends the fight. Toei destroyed what Hit represents in this fight
Black has killed 99% of the population.
Mai said the Human Resistance was all there was left of the humans, and that there was a lot less of them now.
They were probably people that lucked out and survived (or decendants of them) because they were in locations like underwater, underground, outerspace, or places similar to that of Kami's hideout
>Black has killed 99% of the population.
Nice headcanon bruh
>Mai said the Human Resistance was all there was left of the humans
Well she's wrong and how the fuck would she even know?
Toyo is still continuing the manga, without ever saying "oops I was wrong about Trunks". He didn't make any character say that either.
So we (the audience) are led to believe that base Black is far stronger than SS3 Goku.
Not our fault he fucked up. If he wants to fix it, he can't ignore it.
And yet, in the manga, Goku gave up. Even though he was much weaker, and realistically could've beaten him.
Anime Goku giving up made much more sense.
What should have happened.
> lol headcanon
> implying Android 8 is a human
Mai literally says that the Resistance was all that was left of them retard
> Well she's wrong
Says you? That's a fucking headcanon.
How is that a fuck up when in the anime ss2 goku beats black too? Or did people just forget that.
People just can't accept ss2 vegeta is stronger than ss3 goku. Its not like it matters, both of them rely more on blue now anyway.
If Goku wanted to give up because Hit couldn't use his killing techniques, he would've done so at the beginning.
If he could've won, he should've. And maybe ask to fight Hit later.
>Toyo is still continuing the manga, without ever saying "oops I was wrong about Trunks"
Toriyama continued his manga, without saying "oops I was wrong about Dende being adult at the start of Buu saga or a lot of stuff more"
Toei still continuing animes, without ever say "oops I was wrong about thousands of inconsistencies for decades"
>Goku giving up
Except that's wrong. Manga-Hit can beat a SSB with a raw ki lower than SS Goku... using ONE technique. That's fucking terrifying. If Hit have even more techniques he's for sure much stronger than that he can show in the tournament. Both Goku have the same reason to give up, they want beat (or be beated by) the true Hit, not a restrained one. Both cases are the same, no one makes more sense.
>ignoring the point of anime-Hit is a wasted character
>doesn't happened last chapter
>so doesn't count
>Because of the shock?
Which shouldn't have been a thing >>151605046
>So is Goku, but not even he is immune to sneaky snipers
Ray gun which was brought as a back up plan to deal with a worn down Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sniper on peak condition Black.
Anime Black is cocky, smug, and flamboyant too.
Manga Black is bland. Not to mention weak as shit.
Why is Mai so bad at shooting? Hitting the fucking potara when his head is so HUGE?
Ranfan is definitely getting it in the ass I can tell you that much.
>isn't edgy and emo, so is bland
>weak because isn't SSB before reach SSR just like anime-Black
>Pretend that gun actually does shit when people have been tanking blasts which can destroy an entire planet since forever
The anime is just retarded
Seriously though, i dont understand how can people eat this shit tier animation up
>being this retarded
If a fucking turtle in plain sight is alive and well clearly Black wasn't working too hard and again the fucking Genki Dama that overpowered someone fighting on par with SSB Vegito. Clearly slows there was quite a lot of people left.
> isn't edgy and emo, so is bland
Dont ignore my previous post
> weak because isn't SSB before reach SSR
No, he's weak cause he lost to SS2 Vegeta as a SS. While he can beat SS2 Trunks (SS3 Goku-tier) as base.
So it's either that, or Toyotaro fucked up the whole thing by saying SS2 Trunks is on par with SS3 Goku and never addressed it.
>While he can beat SS2 Trunks (SS3 Goku-tier) as base.
Trunk was literally malnourished / got his shit constantly pushed in before
Even if he used SS2, it doesnt mean that his power was SS2 level
Remember how SSB Vegeta was weaker than Red Goku? It was pretty obvious, why is there still niggas who dont get it
>Genki Dama that overpowered someone fighting on par with SSB Vegito.
SSB Vegetto had the edge. Zamasu was just immortal.
Also the Genki Dama was big because = SSRage Trunks + Goku +Vegeta + Gowasu + Kaioshin + everyone else
Kaioshin alone (dwarves Buu Saga Piccolo, who is much stronger than Freeza in Namek) can make a Spirit Bomb that big.
>building up like any other DBZ character
Yea character. Not villain.
Except maybe with the exception Imperfect Cell, but he did wreck 17 and nearly killed Piccolo. Then absorbed 17 pretty quickly.
>don't ignore my previous post
>he's weak cause he lost to SS2 Vegeta as a SS
>some guy is as SS1 stronger than a SS2, but weaker than another SS2, so he's weak
Are you literally retarded?
>also still pushing inconsistency SS2 Trunks being SS3 Goku tier
Anime-Trunks is already SSB tier even before goes SSA, then
>Trunk was literally malnourished
He was hungry, but he wasn't like a starving kid in africa.
Also he had SS2 when fighting Dabura. He could've easily beaten base form Black when he appeared.
>but he wasn't like a starving kid in africa
Nigga it was fucking world's end and all they had left was some shitty canned food. Fuck more do you want?
>He had SS2 when fighting Dabura
Nigga it doesnt have shit to do with anything, Black destroyed the world way later
Bloody fucking miserable retard
God Blackfags are obnoxious as hell
>Shit on Sean Schemmel because of his Black voice in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 even though he had no familiarity with the character compared to Masako Nozawa who had much more time with the character.
>Shits on Toyotaro because they're butthurt their favorite character lost a fight and keep bitching we haven't seen as much of his character in the short amount of time he has appeared compared to his anime counterpart whose arc has completed.
>some guy is as SS1 stronger than a SS2, but weaker than another SS2, so he's weak
Black beat SS2 Trunks at base form
> "I can't defend this point, so let me bring up a totally unrelated issue...Anime-Trunks is already SSB tier even before goes SSA!"
He caught Black off-guard, and then got beaten by him.
He was primarily concentrating on Future Zamasu anyway, while Goku was focused on Black.
Bulma is a slut so her vag and shitter are prolly loose af. But being the slut she is she'd give mean ass bj's. Blowjob from her.
Chi chi is pretty faithful and old school and is also clearly a freak, so anal for her.
Videl must be broken and she probably has the tightesr puss having on to deal with gohans poodledick. She's getting the seed in the babymaker.
Ranfan is bad enough for all the above but sadly we're leftbwith the tit job from her.
You do wonder if Zamasu will be strung up into the Xenoverse plot since he's not exactly a normal character in the context of the story.
He "showed" as in he stayed in the background mumbling some autist shit like " the destruction god is ded now"
Nothing said that he fight Trunk right after that. Nothing pointed to that scene where base Black beat SS2 Trunk was right after that. If anything it was sometime / a long time later
It was shown that Trunk got his ass chased down by Black constantly the day before
>SSB Vegetto had the edge
No he didn't. Fused Zamasu knocked him on his ass and took a final kamahamaha like it was nothing.
Who spent most of their Ki on the fusion.
>SSRage Trunks +
Weaker than Black by himself.
>Gowasu + Kaioshin
Both of which who were weaker than Zamasu by himself. Also pic related. Fused Zamasu should atleast God of Destruction by this line.
Well, let's be honest here
Black is a fucking minor villain, what more do you want? Most of his character is recycled idea / stuff
>H-he r-ruled the universe
>H-he is a god
>You know a character is shit when you make him weaker and suddenly he's not 'interesting' anymore
So? That only means that Black could beat SS2 Trunk
And then later on he could beat a malnourished SS2 Trunk at his base
Do you have brain problem?
>B-but the anime
The anime is retarded
It's nice to see vegeta actually not job for once
>No he didn't.
Vegetto had him on edge the whole time. He barely did any damage to Vegetto except maybe that one attack, where Vegetto led him into a Spirit Sword stab
> Who spent most of their Ki on the fusion.
The moment they de-fused, they got their heads bashed in. But they still had some ki left. I don't think it's ever said that fusion completely depletes you of your ki.
We don't have many examples to go by, so I'll use SS4 Gogeta as an example. When they de-fused, they still had some energy left
> Weaker than Black by himself.
But not the combination of all the other ki + his own. Also, he had Blackmasu's fusion backfiring in his favor.
> Gowasu + Kaioshin
It's the combination I'm talking about. It adds up. Plus, as I mentioned before, the flawed-fusion was having a negative effect.
> you're wrong because of X
> well you're wrong because of Y
> w-well you're wrong because of...X!
See how stupid you sound anon?
>But Trunks with his fanfic form being stronger than both Blue Goku and Vegeta is an 'ok ok'?
Or regular Super Saiyan Trunks being able to block and parry several attacks from Super Saiyan Rose Black's Ki blade and then kick him into a building.
While Base Black tanked hits from Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta.
Black losing would've been fine if it was ONLY SSB Vegeta vs SS Black
You can't deny Toyotaro fucked up with having SS2 Vegeta beating SS Black. Not when base Black beats SS2 Trunks.
> for once
Did you forget...?
>at base form
You mean a malnourished Trunks? Because the last chapter also states Trunks fighted SS Black in the past, which proves Trunks was more defiant for Black in the past
>"totally unrelated issue"
Are you trying to push an inconsistency to make the manga look bad, so I'm asking you if is fair do the same with the anime. Sad you are too retarded to realize how shitty your arguments are.
>He caught Black off-guard >>151601323
HAHAHAHA nice joke
Why you even try it? Even ignoring how a SSR is kicked by a SS2 weaker than SS2 Goku, what's about Zamasu fighting SSB Goku and Vegeta? He's inmortal, not super strong, but there's a lot of parts with Zamasu fighting Goku, not only using his inmortality to receive attacks instead Black, fighting Goku.
If you are legitimately trying makes us believe that Toei power scale makes any sense you are literally too stupid to deserve a (You)
>He was primarily concentrating on Future Zamasu anyway, while Goku was focused on Black.
That's how Toei should did the fight. Zamasu is SS2 tier, Black is SSB tier, so Trunks fights Zamasu and Goku fights Black but Toei can't simply handle that, they want more chaotic fights, more episodes, more money. At least you are more inteligent than they.
>You mean a malnourished Trunks?
Uh no. Trunks couldn't be malnourished against his very first fight with Black.
And SS2 Trunks should've beaten SS Black. Considering he's SS3 Goku-tier, and even SS2 Vegeta can beat him.
Just let them be salty and delude themselves into thinking the two situations are in any way comparable and enjoy mocking them. When Black gets SSR in the manga and starts edging out we'll have to deal with them being fucking retards screaming about "best boi" again.
>Vegetto had him on edge the whole time.
>But they still had some ki left.
Which is why when Trunks was fighting Fused Zamasu non of them jump in to help.
>so I'll use SS4 Gogeta as an example. When they de-fused, they still had some energy left
>But not the combination of all the other ki + his own.
>It's the combination I'm talking about
I know that, I just saying that the combine total of Fused Zamasu should be superior, because of how strong the people who make him up compare to the heroes.And even then Kaioshin said their power didn't fuse it expanded to no end.
why do people keep pushing this bullshit meme?
if it does not state that Trunks is weaker and at a disadvantage because of not eating properly then it should not be inserted as the explanation for all of your problems
rely on facts and evidence not conjecture and speculation you fucking twats
How do you think Goku's exchange with King Yemma went after Hit killed him for a few seconds.
> Are you trying to push an inconsistency to make the manga look bad
It's from the most recent chapter. I'm not digging up the past, and it's a legitimate issue.
> Zamasu fighting SSB Goku and Vegeta?
He can regenerate and has SSR Black backing him up. It's not like F. Zamasu did any serious damage to SSB Goku/Vegeta
>That's how Toei should did the fight. Zamasu is SS2 tier, Black is SSB tier, so Trunks fights Zamasu and Goku fights Black
...that' how it was? (for the most part)
Goku cant fight if he is hungry, this was demonstrated multiple times and sometime was a key in his fights
Saiyan uses a shit fuck of energy, not being able to eat is a very serious problem
They eat more than a dozen people's share in one of their daily meal, Trunk barely had half of a shitty canned food, he might as well didnt eat anything
>a bunch of anons in the threads were hyped when Black was doing stuff in the anime
>t-that means everyone loved him. 100% of the people here
>s-stop jumping on the b-black hate bandwagon
>You mean a malnourished Trunks?
Uh no. Trunks couldn't be malnourished against his very first fight with Black.
So..? I'm talking about first fight with Black we see, if you are talking about their first fight off screen, nobody says in the manga Black defeated Trunks in base state, exactly the opposite, Trunks says he saw Black's SS form.
>STILL pushing Trunks is SS3 tier
Already not an argument.
>also ignoring the fact you can't defend Toei power levels no matter you try
>"Oh hi King yem-"
most likely scenario
>Trunks arrives home after Babidi stuff
>Black wrecks shit 2 hours later
>Black vs not rested Trunks
or Trunks received a Zenkai Boost after his last encounter against Black
powerlevels don't make sense
>manga states: Trunks fighted SS Black in the past
>manga states: recently Trunks barely had any food to eat
>manga states: recently Trunks was defeated by base Black
Are you too retarded to understand how "less food" means "worse health" and "worse health" mean "low strenght"?
There's two options:
· Malnourished Trunks is weaker than healthy Trunks
· Time ago Black turned SS to fight SS2 Trunks for no reason
Pick one and tell me which of these two options seems to be correct, because there's no more
>Goku cant fight if he is hungry
That's part of Goku's character.
IF it was relevant to Trunks, and if it really made him drop in power that significantly, the manga would've mentioned it. It's poor writing.
Either way, Trunks wasn't malnourished with his FIRST fight with Black. And he already had SS2 against Dabura
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the best looking normal person in these threads. All of you with these anime reaction images saved to their PC is sad. I only get on this board to read about dragon ball so I don't have to watch gay YouTube people talk about it. All of you asking people to reply "hi" and say shit like waifu and prefer the jap dub are all degenerates. Its sad that I even interact with you. This isn't bait
>your points aren't correct because I say so so I don't even have to argue against them hehe
I can almost picture you wiping the sweat off your brow and breathing a sigh of relief.
>Toei inconsistencies doesn't count because weren't in the most recent episode
Whatever you say anon
>SSR Black backing him up.
Are you even saw the gif? Zamasu, not making use of his inmortality or being helped by Black, fighted SSB Goku.
>n-not serious damage
Zamasu not being instantly vaporiced by Goku or Vegeta when Black isn't around is ridicolous. Same as Trunks vs SSR Black.
>...that' how it was? (for the most part)
75% of the fight. The rest is indefensible bullshit.
They're gone anon, here's a picture that you can use for current event
Indeed, that one frame where Vegito got thrown on his ass then got back up and started fucking Zamasu up. And you're completely ignoring the bit where Vegito was literally mocking Zamasu as he beat the shit out of him for his stupid hulk form. It's like you morons who spout about Zamasu being stronger than Vegito never watched the episode and just saved screenshots from other anons so you could parrot them.
But it's okay, keep being deluded. I know your fragile ego can't handle being proven wrong, faganon.
>Toei inconsistencies doesn't count
They do, but why bring up un-related shit when defending an entirely different issue?
> Zamasu, not making use of his inmortality or being helped by Black, fighted SSB Goku.
With SSR Black in the same battlefield. Alone, SSB Goku punched Future Zamasu's face with his back turned.
> Zamasu not being instantly vaporiced by Goku or Vegeta when Black isn't around is ridicolous.
He's SS2 Trunks-tier. Who apparently, according to the manga, is at least as strong as SS3 Goku.
> 75% of the fight
I guess, but that's being very conservative
The pic where Vegetto lured Zamasu so he can stab Zamasu with the Spirit Sword?
That pic? Good argument there anon
>That's part of Goku's character.
Yeah, all saiyans don't have the same problems with food as Goku, huh?
>Either way, Trunks wasn't malnourished with his FIRST fight with Black. And he already had SS2 against Dabura
>Indeed, that one frame where Vegito got thrown on his ass then got back up and started fucking Zamasu up.
Resorting to a sneak attack which didn't do much isn't really fucking anyone up dumbass and again he took a final kamehamaha and laugh it off.
>It's like you morons who spout about Zamasu being stronger than Vegito
I never said Zamasu was stronger than Vegito dumbass, I said he was fighting on par with him. Pay attention.
>ignores the rest of the post so he doesn't have to argue against something for which he has no argument
>moves goal posts while sweating anxiously hoping whoever he's arguing against is too lazy/too stupid to check back to previous posts
>is an overall condescending cunt because he's convinced his unfounded argument about characters in a Chinese children's cartoon are correct
>The pic where Vegetto lured Zamasu so he can stab Zamasu with the Spirit Sword?
No, the pic where he got knocked on his ass see >>151607691
More like resorting to a sneak attack because he was getting pressured. Nice try.
he probably did reach the limit of a Kaiohshin\Saiyan zenkai boost.
Saiyans HAVE a zenkai boost limit, the main character pretty much hit it when they reached Super Saiyan.
Once Super Saiyan they can boost with ANGER, see >>151602784 and Trunks Super Saiyan Anger form
>while ignoring all the arguments that have been made/ignoring all the points he doesn't want to argue against
>I a-accept your c-concession
So you are baiting. Take your final (You) and this parting gif as your prize for making me respond so much.
Are u the same faggot that lost that earlier argument about sniping Black, and resorted to "lol I have no argument but I accept your concession"
You're either baiting or retarded
>he probably did reach the limit of a Kaiohshin\Saiyan zenkai boost.
>Saiyans HAVE a zenkai boost limit