Flip Flappers

I liked the last episode.

>>151581260
But the last few episodes were great while the worst 2 episodes were 7 and 4

There were good ideas but they were put together very poorly by the end.

Did it have a yuri end?

I agree, the show was a lot better when everything was mysterious and unexplained. The worst part is that the revelations from the latter episodes kinda ruin the earlier ones.

>>151581260
The only parts that felt particularly bad to me were the end of episode 12 and episode 13. I actually thought episode 10 was fine.

>tfw the not even top 3 this season actually became real

i should've stopped at the mad max episode

I didn't pick this up because I was following more series than I had time for. Should I watch it now that it's done? Or was it only fun because you guys watched it together?

>>151581260
DESU this show should've just been a one shot OVA based off of episode 3, since that's the only episode people care about.

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>>151582199
how does this make you feel

Why did they rip off of Evangelion for the entire second half?

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>>151581998

>>151582199
Watch three episodes and decide for yourself.

I think the early episodes were pure magic, they fucked it up in later episodes by adding drama that got nowhere. But it's still a nice series.

>>151582282
you mean when the show loses all direction?

>>151582282
>>151582345
but ripping off eva is a direction

>>151582282
>focusing on a relationship between a mother and her child is ripping off Evangelion
There were other things that ripped off Eva like the mecha world but in general it was not ripping off Eva.

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>>151582231
>I fucked this

>>151582440
I thought mecha world was mostly a Gurren Lagann riff.

>>151581260
why did they change the writer again

the first half is no doubt better than the second half

>>151582455
The whole "city under siege by a massive alien" felt very Eva, and the big enemy looked like Unit 01.

>>151582455
>not realizing it's a code geass riff

cmon son, know your classics

>>151582543
>Code Geass
>implying it's not a Megas XLR riff

CMON SON

Real talk
What does Jacob Chapman of ANN (the guy who made the show popular in the first place) think about the grand finale?

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>>151582443

Salt is such a lady killer.

>>151582576
>the guy who made the show popular in the first place

You fucking what?

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>>151582562
>>151582543
>>151582455
>>151582440
>that feeling when you can't tell if these posts are trolling or not anymore

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>>151582618
I want to believe it's mostly joking around but I can never tell anymore either.

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>>151582586
>the last thing Mimi says to Salt is to stay faithful to her
>Sayuri exists

>>151582586
>Sayuri rides with Salt
>she falls off
>Mimi rides with Salt
>Salt falls off, into the depths of Mimi
Poet

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>>151581260
You can't fool me. I fought in the Meme War of 2016 and have over 500 confirmed kills. I can identify over 2000 different kinds of bait and your OP is one of them. Arrest him immediately.

>>151582199
No. It really hits the shit during the home stretch. It's sad really, because everything before that is top-notch.

>>151582576
seems to be too busy having a twitter flamewar about pedophilia atm, ask again later

then again he liked 12 but dislikes the general direction the show has been going, so it's probably that, this will probably get ANN's coveted "B+ it's shit" rating

>>151582606
You're replying to memes laddie.

A a rare beastie to be sure but memes nonetheless.

>>151582667
There was a war?

not enough jojo references

End Of Pure Illusion to stretch out and fix the last bit when?

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>>151582650
She was crying in that scene, anon.
She knows. She already knows.

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>>151582562
>Oshiyama during episode 12

>>151582776
How did she get the blush scratches on her hands?

>>151582709
>seems to be too busy having a twitter flamewar about pedophilia atm
Excuse me?

>>151582832
You're excused

We're making a thank you image! The card will be a collection of images into one big image sent to them via Twitter using imgur. The due date for submissions is 12/30/16 at 9:00 am pst. Send all images to [email protected]

>Dimensions
600 by 600 pixels
>Why not here? it's an imageboard after all. we'd just have to reply your post.
Its hard trying to shitpost 24/7 to have to go around collecting images
>Why not real postcards? I want to send one. But there needs to be a campaign for it to mean something.
I'm not sure how this would be accomplished so I'm limiting it to digital.
>Who are we sending it to?
@binobinobi the directors twitter

How many do we have so far?

>>151582811
She drew them on.

>>151582788
Fuck man, Megas XLR was sick. They should have actually had a Megas XLR episode. They do know that chicks dig giant robots, right?

>>151582832
looks like he named super lovers as his worst anime of the year and now super lovers fans are really salty

if you don't know how this related to pedos, look up what super lovers is about

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>>151582776
>Grey PI world
>Everything is dull (definitely PI belonging to adult)
>Butterflies (the only connection between adult Salt and kid Salt)
>Cocona lives with Sayuri, and Sayuri plays a role of mother (yeah, more like older sister, but whatever, that's because Sayuri is much younger than Salt)
>Cocona is Salt's daughter
>This PI layer was created by Salt
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I want to use this as I send the images to them is this fine?

/a/の海外ファンからのメッセージです。名無しさんたちがそれぞれ作ったカードはここにまとまってあります。フリプフラパーズをありがとうございます！
(A message from the overseas fans from /a/. The cards each anon created are collected here. Thank you for Flip Flappers!)

I liked the rabbit.

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>>151582884
Fucking pedos, thank god Flip Flappers only has healthy relationships beetween similarly aged people

>>151582939
>フリプフラパーズをありがとうございます！

フリップフラッパーズ

>>151582932
>that was Salt's PI

Fuck me how did I not realize. That's like when watching the marathon I didn't realize the connection about Yayaka and not making any choices, and regretting it.

>>151582932
really makes the cortex do the vortex

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>>151582999

>>151582939
sounds good

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>>151582939

>>151583049
so sick of her stupid fucking face

>>151583018
I guess I should mention that I didn't spell this. Can you help?

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>>151583075

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I thought the last few episodes were just as bad as the rest of the series.

>>151583071
this is great anon

>>151583088
The actual spelling for the title is フリップフラッパーズ, like in the logo, not フリプフラパーズ.

So who was Bu-chan?

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>>151583075
I'm going to find where you live and kill you for insulting my beloved daughter.

>>151582999
To be fair, Super Lovers is indeed extremely creepy to a degree few other shows can even dream of. This drama is extra funny because now Super Lovers ultrafujos are now all "you're clearly just a HOMOPHOBE, Mr. Jacob 'Yuri on Ice is basically the best anime in forever' Chapman."

Basically a gigantic anime bumfight.

>>151583075
yayakafags on suicide watch including me ;_;

>>151582939
「名無しさん」より「アノンさん」のほうがいいと思う
名無しさん＝２ｃｈ
アノンさん＝４ｃｈ

>>151582650
She actually says something more along the lines of "It's ok, as long as I'm always your number one," so I sort of took it as being permission from here to move on (with Sayuri maybe,) so long as he always holds her as the love of his life in his heart.

>>151582939
Put that on the collage's header for the benefit of future generations.

>>151583147
to intelligent

>>151583147
my self-insert

>>151583173
Also, this. Though I think the point will get across either way, this would sound better for /a/.

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>>151583171
>not being happy Yayaka is happy at last, free

She's friendzoned, but she's cool with that.

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>>151583075

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>>151583178
I mean, she's stuck in PI with no way to return and he's stuck in the real world with no way to enter PI
They may love each other but unless they like exchanging mail through their daughter, they're basically separated forever.

At some point Mimi has to appreciate the fact that Salt has needs and she can't fulfill them unless she uses her daughter's body. Better just to face reality and cede that ground now.

>>151583243
come closer

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>>151583287

>>151583282
Imagine them sexting through their daughter.

>>151583232
that's what she says before proceeding to cry herself to sleep every night

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>>151583328
Too close!

>>151583282
>At some point Mimi has to appreciate the fact that Salt has needs and she can't fulfill them unless she uses her daughter's body.
Don't give the doujin artists any ideas, anon.

>>151581260
But then we will never get Mimi

>>151583328
don't be afraid
look, it likes you

>>151583352
She'll move on. Now she's free to get more friends and find a cute cat to cuddle with, like one of Cocona's other friends.

>>151583366
When's futanon's doujin coming out?

>>151581260
But it's where the show becomes retroactively good by starting to make sense.

>>151583232
Nah, she's gone straight for PI Uexkull now.

>>151583282
Mimi has a real body though.

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>>151583396
A grave loss at that

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>>151583408

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>>151583282
>has needs and she can't fulfill them unless she uses her daughter's body

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>>151583430
>has
had

>>151582884
>look up what super lovers is about
ughh, no. Just because I need to figure out how glory hole works doesn't mean I need to go to where glory holes are.

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I love Papika!! <3

so the imaginary world still exist, she can still visit her mother, she is not aware who her dad is, how did Papika rejuvenate exactly?
Was she still the that world?

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There's 3000 seeders for HS 720p ep13, that means ir's not a flop, r-right?

>Press Flip to pay Flaps

>>151583534
>Drumpf
Exactly the kind of person I would expect in a FliFla thread

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>>151583472
A 16 year old gets an 8 year old adopted brother who he uses to fulfill his sexual fantasies.

>>151583154
>Super Lovers
>25yo having sex with a 16yo he's had legal guardianship over for 8 years.

And to think that people were complaining about Papicake.

>>151581260
9 is too late and you know it. It becomes bad at the exact point Mimi is brought up.

>>151583534
She was in PI

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>>151583410
>When's futanon's doujin coming out?
Hopefully within a month or so if I can get my ass in gear. But I'm also horrendously lazy...don't wait around for it.

Anyway, here's some kissu fanart for you all. Sequel never ;_;

dɐlℲ

>>151582939
Make sure that is written on the collage itself somewhere. Also, specifically mention 4chan. I remember something in the past like this, and the director on twitter said something along the lines of "thank you reddit!"

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Who the fuck names a character 'Newnew'?

>>151583584
>>151583592
They should have been both girls.

>>151583232
Yayaka is happy that Cocona is happy but Yayaka has no happiness of her own. No family, no friends, no home, no money. All she ever wanted was somewhere to belong and she lost the only place she had.

And people say she got a happy end.

>>151583629
Send it to Oshiyama

>>151583636
>muh anonymous accreditation

nobody cares, especially not japanese people

>>151583534
Salt's surname is Summer

>>151583629
Great, now I'm disappointed that scene didn't deliver.

Thank you futa for bringing back my smile.

>>151583552
This is literally the only place where it's popular

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>>151583629
Oh my god that is absolutely beautiful. Thanks for all of the cute and degenerate artworks. You gave my heart a run for its money.

>>151583629
man, this would be great for the collage! Went to send it to card anon?

>>151583534
That was Salt's extra layer of PI you dummy.

>>151583703
there aren't even 300 FF fans on 4chan, anon.

>>151583670
I-It has handholding, that's way too lewd to send to him.

>>151583702
Just a kissu without extra fanfare would've worked perfectly there. It's too bad. Ah well

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>>151583629
Thanks for this

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>>151583629
Based

>>151583282
>stuck in the real world with no way to enter PI
But Elpis or what's left of it is still there. With the data Hidaka can probably put some bullshit together. If he can't they can "improve" him like Salt's dad and Iroha.

>>151583629
futanon giving us exactly what the episode needed, thank you

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>>151583636
>thank you reddit

AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>151583719
It's not 600x600 right? Plus I already sent in a card...I don't know, if he wants to add it or something he's welcome to.

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>>151583629
Very nice. Gonna miss seeing new Flip Flappers art from you once the threads die down.

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>>151583584
Disgusting. You don't date someone you're raising.

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>>151583646

Take her home!

>>151583636
It was the /v/ Nintendo card IIRC

Either way I think nips are more familiar with 4chan

>>151581260
In my opinion the last few episodes were the only good ones. Up until then it was just a shit fest of randomness.

>>151583636
>reddit
sensual chuckles

>>151583639
The best kind of writers, those who know how to please the audience's dick.

>>151583629
Thanks for the kissu, it will make a nice wallpaper

>>151583049
The innocent cuteness of loli papika will haunt me for the rest of my days, god help us all.

>>151583809
>/v/
>Nintendo

If I wasn't definitely sure that Nintendo isn't even capable of it, I would consider that a sick burn. Because that was totally deserved.

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>>151583703
S3 CONFIRMED

>>151583834
lewd

>>151583868
What?

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>>151582867
An attempt was made.

What's Jacob Chapman's (the guy who made the show popular in the first place) consensus on the show?

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>>151583879
Are you ok

>>151582867
I don't want to use my email or make a throwaway one, I'll just reply with the one I posted in the thread here: >>151583071

You can summon Yayakas with creamboxes https://creamboxbu.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/%E3%80%9C%EF%BC%92%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4%E8%A8%98%E5%BF%B5%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5%E4%BC%81%E7%94%BB%E3%80%9C%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%82%92%E4%BD%9C%E3%81%A3/

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you know what needs to be done... he's not even looking... it's like he want's you to kill him

>>151583992
https://www.guerrillamail.com/

>>151584034
>I don't want to use my email or make a throwaway one
>or make a throwaway one

>>151584024
Mimi on the right?

>>151584064
You don't have to make shit. Just hit 'compose' and that's it.

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If you liked FlipFlapppers make sure to watch Shin-chan movie 24 once subs are out.

>>151583646
Hey, she never opened up to Cocona herself. She reaped what she sowed.

>>151583901
I mean that if I got something from /v/, and especially from the Nintendo Squad of /v/, I'd make sure to thank reddit too.

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I'm probably revealing my abysmal powerlevel here, but who came up with this shit and under what circumstances is it an homage and not just a terrible cliche

>>151584178
it's a chanbara thing, I know it from Kenshin but it's probably way older.

>>151583629
Wow, this is incredible.

>>151584178
It's fun, low powerlevel-kun.

>>151584178
Better question is who thought two giant fucking blobs were good final boss material?

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>>151583629
Thanks

>>151584233
They're THICC

So they never explained who Mimi's baby was?

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>>151584253
Yayakass is Lolis endgame

>>151583629
Perfect.

>>151584251
Is it just me or does Cocona look clingier and higher in every pic of this scene I see?

>>151583584
that's hot

>>151584064
You don't have to make one with that link, it automatically generates an email edress. Send the email and you're done. It's 10 seconds.

>>151584340
She's been snorting Papika.

>>151584328
Sayuri was really just going to let her shoot Bu-chan in the brain?

>>151584340
She's just in love.

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>>151583029
>didn't realize the connection about Yayaka and not making any choices, and regretting it.
Elaborate?

>>151584340
She looks like she's already kissing Papika's cervix mid-flight.

>>151584269
WHY DOES THIS MAKE ME LAUGH

Fuck I need sleep

>>151584269
It was another bust, don't overthink it

>>151584390
Episode 10 she talks briefly with Cocona about how the Klan made all the choices for her and she was okay with it because she thought things would work out okay. She was wrong and wishes she could go back and do things differently.

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>>151584390
Yayaka was fine with KKK making every choice in her life because she believed it will result in a world where no one got hurt

Just started the final episode. They really did use up the animation budget early on.

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If Uexküll is best boy, does that mean /our gal/ got a happy end?

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It was a fun ride guys. I dont understand why some are disappointed- we had a few episodes of tragedy, but managed to secure a good end in a way that made sense. Aside from a few pacing and animation issues in the last couple of episodes, the show is more or less flawless.

I am going to miss it. I just want more. I am not ready to leave Papika and Cocona behind me. Its sad that these threads are going to fade away soon. I miss it all already.

Thank you all for everything. This was honestly the best time I have had on this board in years, and the best anime I have seen in about the same timespan.

I love love LOVE Flip Flappers!

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>>151584524
Best boy is Papika

>>151584542
Don't forget to vote before you leave anon!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11982199/

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I just realized, you can tell that the doctor in the middle is salt's dad because he has the hair curls in his silhouette

I wonder if the two sub-leaders were ever seen out of uniform beyond this shot so we could identify the,

>>151584614
who else would it have been? its been obvious for a while

>OVA about Papika and Cocona going on a harmless adventure, Cocona getting relationship help from Yayaka, and ending in a cute kiss

Could it happen?

>>151583629
Thank you

>>151584788
It won't happen. But I really want it to.

>>151584788
Give up.

>>151584788
Nope.
Sorry, bro.

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>>151584829
>>151584847
>>151584851
Why not? The BDs have "bonus content."

>>151584788
Only if you buy all the BDs.

What was even the point of Nyu

>>151583646
For me the main achievement of her struggle was inspiring the twins since she never really reached anything with Cocona (Cocona has no idea ho important she is to Yayaka). Most of it was kind of for nothing.

>>151584788
patreon can make anything possible

>>151584869
Yeah, commentary and clean OP. If there was a full OVA episode they'd advertise it.

>>151584887
>give them money
>they change writers mid production
Nope.

>>151583629
I love you futanon.

>>151584788
You got dubs, so I want to believe!

in all honestly its unlikely, but I would love it if it did happen. Throw in a little bit of Salt reconciliation as he tries to be a dad for once and it would be perfect.

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>>151584524
yes, he's pretty handsome too desu

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>>151583646
>>151584886

>>151584869
They had enough moments to do that in the last episodes and didn't. What makes you think they'll add it to some OVA? It was never meant to be. I'll never understand why is it so hard for animu to include an actual, not-implied kissu.

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>Yuyu has a metal arm in the OP of every episode
>She has a real arm here

Explain this, memes allowed

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>more than 12 hours after the ep
>no photoshoops of pic related
are you for real?

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I... I wrote a song for Yayaka

CARRY ON MY WAYWARD TSUN
THERE'LL BE PETS WHEN YOU ARE DONE
LAY YOUR WEARY FLAPS TO REST
DON'T YOU FLIP NO MORE

I hope she finds happiness.

>>151584995
because it would crush sales outside of a niche audience. No one wants to take a risk and do it.

>>151585025
>>151569869

>>151585025
There was an entire thread for them. None of them were particularly funny so it died.

>>151585025
I think you got the wrong door, OC club is two blocks down
>>151569869

>>151585017
It was another pure illusion, not the real world.

>>151585025
There'es an entire thread for it, faggot.

>>151585017
Real Answer- Papika and cocona have been in PI for an indeterminate amount of time, maybe even weeks. She probably got her arm replaced with a more human looking prosthetic.

>>151585072
Anon, there is no "real" world. It's all just layers.

>>151585017
The tell in the interview it was real arm from the beginning as you can see in ep 5 and some other. They put that pink worm cast on her arm for shits and giggles. Don't know about robot arm playing cello, someone suggested that's how she trained to use bionic arm.

>>151585052
>>151585057
>>151585066
>>151585076
So that was that the fourth thread I couldn't find. Pardon my retardism

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I don't think these legs belong on an elementary schooler.

>>151584542
I felt the ending was disappointing, but the adventure episodes were so good, I really can't complain about the series overall.
Most anime don't stick the landing anyways, so it shouldn't be that surprising when Flip Flappers doesn't either.

>>151585129
Punches aren't all about upper body. You need a strong core to really deliver some force

>>151585129
I wish more elementary schoolers had legs like that.

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>>151583171
>is cocona's age
>is friends with her for a good many years
>gets fired and almost murdered by the KKK for cocona
>papika swooces in after de-aging bullshit to steal her away
>was somehow more straight up with papika and mimi than she ever was with cocona

Yayaka? More like Sayayaka.

>>151583703
super popular on anitwitter

>>151585181
Yayaka is a good character unlike Sayaka.

>>151585145
For me the ending itself was great. I just feel like there was some stuff that could have or should have been in the ending that wasn't there. But everything that WAS there was great. I am not disappointed, I just want more.

>>151585224
Yeah but anitwitter is like 10 guys that like everything anyway

>>151585145
>most anime are shit
>so we should forgive Flip Flappers for being shit
What the fuck?

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>Twins pretty much cheering for Yayaka
>Don't even have a scene with her at the end
Is Yayaka doomed to be a lonely loser forever?

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>check up on the Papika figure
>see this

https://a.pomf.cat/nehjfo.webm

>>151585269
Who are you quoting? Because nowhere does it say that.

>>151585289
>XD
opinion discarded

I will protect Yayaka forever and ever!

>>151585289
>cant understand a simple and straightforward story about love and growing up

They don't deserve Flip Flappers.

>>151585270
No one had scenes with anyone because fuck closure, they had to go for a lol i trolled u xD end

>>151585307
F L I P F L A P P I N G

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>>151585289
>XD

>>151585289
>reading reviews on MFC

When, for some reason, MAL just doesn't doesn't quite provide the stupidity you crave.

>>151585307
G O K I G E N Y O U

>>151585311
The idea is the same. It's fucking stupid that people should forgive Flip Flappers for having a shit ending just because other anime didn't have one either.

Yeah, let's not expect better products. Here's your participation prize.

>>151585330
If I didn't have /a/ to explain freudian unbirthing, jungian dream archetypes, fire codes, obscure references to classical art and japanese literature, the menstrual cycle and nalclippers, I probably wouldn't have understood this show, either.

In fact I still didn't really understand episodes 6 and 7 until yesterday's discussion.

>>151585145
For me I felt like the landing was pretty good. Salt and Mimi Closure, Cocona and Papika confession was top tier, as was the pipe reunion scene, and the subsequent OVER THE RAINBOW end sequence. The Mimi battle was also neat.

It covered all its bases, while confirming that everyone gets to live happily ever after and go on more adventures together. It was a happy end. While it didn't bring the feels, it was heartwarming in a nice way. The sequence of non stop "Fuck you!" to possible bad ends in the second half was also nice.

>>151585436
You don't really need any of that to understand the show.

>>151585466
And Nyunyu shot her gun!

>>151585418
You can expect a better product all you want, but at the end of the day, most anime have shit endings. It's not excusing anything, because it's still detracting from the total enjoyment of the series like every other anime with a shit end.
As it is, the earlier episodes are good enough to make up for this particular bad end, most anime do not have that luxury.

>>151585436
huh, I started the show the week before christmas and marathoned 1-11. I had no issue understanding anything at all and was surprised to find people confused. Only the DPI episode 6 about Iro had me confused at first, but I rewatched it immediately afterwords and understood it perfectly the second time around.

>>151585289
Oh it's by a fujoshi. Shocker.

>>151585436
>In fact I still didn't really understand episodes 6 and 7 until yesterday's discussion.

Care to elaborate? I thought the discussion had a fairly developed interpretation of those episodes when they first aired and the following weeks.

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>>151585478
Isn't the unbirthing really important for this show, I mean I don't fully understand it but it kinda makes sense

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>>151581260
ending is shit, it should be mature papika x younger cocona

>>151585598
No, proper unbirth would require half of the baby to go back into the father's urethra

>>151581632
No, good friends who are just touchy to appeal to lonely faggots who want girls to be lesbians for their sake.

>>151585629
>G R E E T I N G S

>>151585545
Yeah. maybe you understood the plot, but do you have the intellect to understand the deep themes and what they are saying? Heh, probably not.

What was the best scene from the finale for you fellow Flappers? I loved the dicktree segment with naked de-aged!Papika and young Cocona in Mimi's dress. [spoler]If only any kind anon would shoop a cute penis onto Papika it'd be the perfect scene.[/spoiler]

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Fuck it all. I'm playing Sun and Moon, name my girl Yaya and fuck Lillie. The name is cursed.

>>151585489
Thats right, she shot the gun! I don't understand why anyone is upset unless they really wanted a tragic ending for some reason- or maybe they wanted to have some heavy feels to validate their enjoyment/love for the show?

I mean, I want a kissu too! But aside from that, improved animation (BDs will get that) and maybe some extended scenes (because I love the show and want to see more and am greedy for whatever I can get) this episode was great all around.

The only serious misstep this show ever had was episode 12s last 3-4 minutes, which really felt rushed for the content it was handling.

Everything about this show has been almost perfect. Some of the best I have seen in years. For a debut work, this is nothing short of incredible. Oshiyama is going to produce some amazing masterpieces in the next 10 years or so if he keeps this up.

>>151585478
I probably wouldn't have really connected all of the little details about Cocona's character being related to fears of change and anxiety about growing up were it not for all that imagery tying things together, contextualizing her reactions.

The imagery was really the glue that held everything together. Understanding it made other things fall into place and allowed the show to be so much more than the sum of its parts

>>151581260
Flip Flappers is a good example of a show with decent themes, good production, but horrible direction.

It feels like the team behind it loosely knew what they wanted to make, but the studio needed them to rush it out the door for some reason. The themes were also wild and all over the place, highly indicative that they were working with a very rough draft for the story.

Could've been an AotY candidate if they took more time making it. Maybe a 2 cour alternating between Pure Illusion adventures and flashbacks explaining the plot instead of having 9 episodes of adventures and then then have the last third be an infodump.

>>151585661
There was never a ship here in the first place anon. Yayaka saw that, you should too.

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>>151585659
>What was the best scene from the finale for you fellow Flappers?

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>>151585659
I liked it when they got spooked by the gokineyou

>>151585694
There was a ship, Yayaka just didn't take the chance when she had it. General childhood friend loss.

>>151585598
the unbirthing imagery just represents the desire of Cocona to run away, to flee from her need make decisions and escape

You can understand what she is doing without understanding the symbols but if you do it just adds another layer of complexity to the story

>>151585659
My favorite scene in the finale.....damn, I have 2.

The confession on the floating rock.

And the entire ending sequence from pipe reunion to the ED song.

>>151585629
It should be Mimi x Cocona

Is it okay to think Penguindrum did a better job at conveying the similar themes it had to Flip Flappers but think FF is better because of yuri, mechas, pretty colors, etc?

>>151585661
S/M with Yayaka as Chicken-chan is the literal Yayaka route. You're gonna get Uexkull, Cocona is going to leave with her mom's best friend and you get to hang out around the island like a loser.

>>151585598
It's not fucking unbirthing, it's more about understanding strong maternal instincts. Mimi allows herself to be consumed by her desire to protect Cocona and this warps Pure Illusion due to her majority control of it.

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>>151585694
Maybe if someone burns the begonias one by one CCN will notice her butt.

>>151585706
What did the Snake head mean? That snakes eat eggs?

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>>151585659
This whole part

>>151585787
probably an adam and eve allusion, innocence lost and all that

>>151585756
Penguindrum was about the affection and caring nature between siblings, Flip Flappers was about parenting and nature vs nurture. The only things they had in common was dealing with family issues.

>>151585756
No Flip Flappers did everything better than PenguinDrum. PenguinDrum Cour 2 was the single most disappointing trainwreck of my life.

>>151585542
That's all fair and good, but it's not what was stated earlier.

>>151585805
Ah Adam and Eve, totally forgot about that

>>151581632
Yes.

>>151585636
Stop trying.

>>151585659
There's too many to pick just one.

The macross tentamissile action sequence
Nyunyu shot her gun
Salt arriving to almost kinda do something
Mimi's Flip Flapping and henshin
The goddamn mutual love confession
The entire boring world PI leading up to the Papika reunion
The midair snuggling

It was such a fucking good finale, goddamn.

>>151585771
>The flowers were being kept alive out of obligation, not because they were actually wanted

>>151585808
I think Flip Flappers was also about gaining independence, choosing a direction in life, and discovering and being yourself.

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Let's stop at 3, okay?

>>151585742
Anon Yayaka never took Cocona off the boat like Papika did. Only Papika could ignite Cocona's heart.

>>151585659
Love confession. Best romance of the year. Surprisingly MAO was in the second best in Luluco.

>>151585688
I'm sure getting a production committee to fund an original anime as your directorial debut for another cour is no problem at all and Oshiyama just decided not to do it.

>>151585861
That is cold man, really putting the screws to the yayafags

>>151585870
>Stop keeping them?

>>151585809
I think the really ironic thing about Penguindrum is that the best episode in the entire series was also the turning point where everything changed and got much less cogent.

The second half still had some great episode, though. Like the man who would not be crushed.

>>151585858
This anon gets it! I loved this finale so much. But my heart feels empty and hollow now because I know its the end and there wont be more.

What did Salt shooting his past self even do? What even was that that he shot and how? I dont get it explain please.

Alahu akhbar

>>151585858
>literally NOTHING is explained
>good finale

>>151585904
I actually agree

>>151585881
Yeah okay calm down. I understand securing funding for a risky arthouse project like Flip Flappers is probably pretty fucking hard.

But they could have at least refined the script a bit better, regardless of whether or not it was intended to be 1 or 2 cours. As it is now the themes are barely conveyed to the viewer and we have a ton of untapped potential that could have made FF into an Ikuhara-tier experience.

>>151585919
I'll tell you the answer, but what do you think it meant?

>>151585919
>Salt is about to get the same offer Mimi did
>The offer that made the crazy-ass hell-Mimi that everyone just got finished fighting
>The crazy-ass hell-Mimi that Salt was very aware of
He shot the double so it wouldnt fucking bother him

>>151585919
Salt said "Salt, switch with Salt"
And Salt responded "no" with a gun.

>>151585953
> Ikuhara-tier experience

It was better than YKA, so there's that.

Who else is already rewatching this show

>>151585937
>literally NOTHING of merit
>good post

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>>151585919
He decided to accept his mistakes, that was the shadow his true self

>>151585919
Trust nobody, not even yourself.

>>151585805
not to mention there was that apple mimi picked up when she took cocona into pure illusion

>>151585953
They could have played it safer - 1 season all build-up and development and if second season is made years later then bring up plot (that was only foreshadowed in the first season).

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>>151586026

>>151585998
>loves his daughter
>accepts his mistakes
>let he daughter keep a stray cat

Is Salt #1 Dad?

>>151585966
I think it meant Salt didn't want to alter the past or something.

What kind of name is Salt though anyway? Lol nice one Japan

>>151585988
Everything is better than YKA. I don't get how anyone could like that anime. It's actually super pretentious, all the stuff people analyzed amounted to absolutely nothing at all. It was just "be yourself" said in a really convoluted way and its head romance was so bad and uninteresting I was happy every character died.

What exactly did Salt achieve or hope to achieve by entering PI through the ELPIS machine?

I understand that he eventually shot his alternate self, choosing not to switch with him and change his past, but that was more of an extra reason for having gone there. Or rather his alternate self was just something in the way of his real goal--which was?

>>151585988
I actually dropped YKA because it was a little TOO abstract, even for an Ikuhara work. Maybe I'll pick it up again some day but it felt like he had just completely lost his mind at that point.

>>151586026
That was more likely a Snow White allusion.

Though it's really anybody's guess. Any resistance to "everything is biblical" was thrown out the window once Salt got stigmata after being crucified.

>>151586047
>What kind of name is Salt though anyway? Lol nice one Japan
The name is Saruto, you fucking mongrel

>>151586058
>What exactly did Salt achieve or hope to achieve by entering PI through the ELPIS machine?

Help is daughter, that was his ultimate goal. He did that by working with Mimi so she could overcome her overloaded maternal instincts and let her daughter be free.

>>151586109
Believe it

>>151586058
>What exactly did Salt achieve or hope to achieve by entering PI through the ELPIS machine?
Something that was cut out of the script way too late.

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>No one will ever tell you you're their only one, like Cocona told Papika
Why keep on living?

Sorry, can't screenshot subs with XYSubFilter.

>>151586124
But they would have punched her into submission anyway.

What's the diference between Papika and Yayaka on PI from a regular person?

I mean what was stopping Mimi from turning them into flowers?

>>151586124
>Help his daughter, that was his ultimate goal.
Okay, so that's what he hoped to achieve, but did he really do anything with that? Wouldn't it have played out basically the same if he hasn't gone in there?

>>151586058
Well you can see what he does, he basically takes away Mimi's ultimate control over everything in PI by overwriting it with his own PI.

>>151586145
If you weren't alive you wouldn't have been able to see Flip Flappers and understand that.

>>151586047
Dr. Salt, like Dr. Pepper

The naming schemes in this show made no sense besides the rabbit being named after some German animal behaviorist who didn't even have anything to do with any of the themes or even animals as complicated as rabbits anyways.

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Any recommendations for a depressed fellow Flapper who just finished watching the finale? I love shows like this, Rolling Girls, and Koukaku no Pandora. Basically comfy shows (at least the beginning of FLFL was) with /u/ subtext or just full-on lesbo.

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>>151586058
He created another layer of Pure Illusion, since Mimi brought PI to the real world he could manipulate and create effects with his own PI, also if we go by the INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS than it explains the good Mimi coming out

>>151586195
YKK

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>>151586195
Are you the /pol/ guy from before? You should know that /a/ doesn't welcome recommendation requests. There are entire boards dedicated to that.

>>151586195
Acid.

>>151585919
On of the main points of Cocona's development was gaining the courage to make decisions despite the possibility of failure (making mistakes).

Through Salt and Mimi this episode illustrates two opposite ways of dealing with wrong decisions. evil!Mimi's reaction, once she admitted she was wrong, was to lash out and try to destroy every consequence of her mistaken decision to start anew. Even during the scene she lies in the water she expresses the desire to simply undo her decision. Salt, on the other hand, decides to stick to his decisions even if he recognizes as a mistake. Instead of destroying the present that sprouted from his decisions, he attempts to turn it into a better future.

This ties into good!Mimi's words in episode 12 about how everyone was afraid of failure, including herself and Salt.This episode dealt with how they coped with that.

>>151586058
So this show was kind of like Lain, where the Wired ended up becoming superimposed over reality via subliminal radio messaging.

Pure Illusion is like that, it's a "layer" over reality where things can pass between them under certain circumstances. If impedance fucks up, PI starts to leak into reality.

ELPIS allows the user to create ANOTHER layer like PI above PI. But this process seems to be incredibly taxing on the subject without granting full control of PI, so the KKK scrapped it.

Salt was willing to use it to gain temporary control over regular PI even if it meant risking his life.

>>151586195
sorry anon, I am just as lost as you are. I have just been listening to over the rainbow and watching episode 13 over and over again.

I dont know what to do anymore.The show told me to go out and live my own life and make my own choices! But all I want is to watch more Flip Flappers! New Flip Flappers!

What does the D in DPI stand for?

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>yfw the writers stop giving a shit and ruin everything

>>151586182
Hadn't Mimi already lost by that point? I still don't understand what that achieved as far as beating evil-mimi.

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Ayane is posting something.

>>151586275
Dots per inch.

Deep Pure Illusion

>>151586177
When Mimi goes wacko and tried to kill him part of her stops the flowers. He helped convince a part of Mimi that the Cocona needs to go free and live her life. You could argue it was this that allowed Papika and Cocona to beat Mimi, she was convinced by Salt to let them go

You just watch it all play out with black holes and henshin but that was just her process of coming to accept Salts point of view

>>151585977
>And Salt responded "no" with a gun.
A true American hero.

>>151586195
Gunbuster and Diebuster.

>>151586310
>Gunbuster
>lesbo
but "muh Coachee"

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>>151586301

>>151586280
I know that feel, I remember watching KLK as well.

I like that the show explained the bare essentials of the plot and left things that could over-complicate/obscure the themes up in the air. The plot mechanics never mattered as much.

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Why a cool third wheel like YYK only gets to take care of her crush's pet while while slutty slutson in Citrus got kisses, groping and best girl as consolation prize? not fair. Fuck you, Santa.

>>151586300
No? When he showed up Mimi was in the process of trapping everyone in a spooky forest made out of the giants that turned out to be unbeatable because they could rewind time. And him showing up just blew that all away.

>>151586310
He wanted comfy, not overrated memes.

When Iro got DPI'd was it really her own alternative self that caused her life to be changed or was it a result of our protagonists' actions? Or was it just something that they watched without having any influence over it? Trying to figure out the difference between what happen to Iro and Mimi.

>>151581998
>tfw the only good outside the animation was not true after all because the animation became shit as well

webgen was a mistake

>>151586266
>>151586220
I understand that concept, and find it really cool.
But, how was that used to win or change the course of the battle? It looked to me like Cocona and Papika won on their own, or at least evil Mimi lost by saying "fuck it, I'll destroy everything" before giving up in the depressed river.
How did Salt use his new PI layer to help defeat evil Mimi? I know that was his PI that they went to at the end, but that was after the conflict was over basically.

>>151586387
I think the deeper you go into PI the more things blur together and the less separation between self and other forces of the collective unconscious becomes apparent. Basically the further you go in, the more you influence it, and the more it influences you. The deeper you go, the more it all mixes together. Sort of like a more controlled version of everyone becoming tang in End of Evangelion. Where the mixing of consciousness only occurs in a limited sense based on how deep you go, and who it is that you are going deep into.

>>151586387
Iro probably regretted not saying goodbye to her auntie, Cocona and Papika actually managed to say goodbye to auntie, that lifted a weight of Iro's back who felt guilty all this time for not being able to say goodbye, wether they actually changed the past or it was just in Iro's mind I don't know, but yeah they actively changed her mind and were not mere spectators

>>151586416
Think of the battle as just a visualization of the internal struggle of Mimi. Salt being present changed how she thought about the situation and therefore the the battle changed. When she "lost" was the moment her mind was changed and she accepted Cocona being free to make decisions.

Its not a fight, its an argument, and Papika and Cocona won by changing the mind of Mimi, with Salts help

>>151586195
Fun shows with confirmed lesbian feelings and dykesukis? Saki is great in that department, but the author happens to be A LAZY DYKE WHO WOULD RATHER DRAW TITS AND FUCK HER ASSISTANS THAN RELEASE THE FUCKING CHAPTERS ON TIME AND WHEN SHE DOES THEY HAVE NO GODDAMN INK. But overall it's a fun series. Ping pong with lesbians is tanoshii too. Next season has dragon meido.