I hope it flops horribly so they never try this shit again. They want to recreate the phenomenon that is capeshit movies, but its not going to work.
You're an idiot.
>I hope it flops horribly so they never try this shit again.
Yeah. That sure worked for the last dozen shitty anime adaptations.
What needs to be done is changing the western perception that animation is a lesser form of media. Then major production companies would greenlight more animated works. Then a movie like this wouldn't need to be made. A western company would just fund more GitS animated movies.
This is also true for western products. Disney is basically destroying all its 2D animation. Not just future projects, but remaking all their classic films into live action. Because of the mistaken perception that people only care about live action. When in reality, the western audience is more interested in animation now than any time in history. As usual, Hollywood is trying to force their ideals, not following the trend of the public.
>What needs to be done is changing the western perception that animation is a lesser form of media. Then major production companies would greenlight more animated works. Then a movie like this wouldn't need to be made. A western company would just fund more GitS animated movies.
>involving the west in anime
No. No western money, no western influence.
The west already destroy comic and games, the west shouldn't be anywhere near anime.
I fucking hope China will pour even more money into the anime industry. China doesn't give a shit about the things western pig dog feminist or SJW do.
I really hope that GiS and DN sell well
so Umineko can be next
Of course its a risk. And we don't want all the shitty PC/SJW crap infesting anime. But its already happening. They're making shitty live action movies and 90% of all animated works produced by western companies are animated in Asia.
Its already happening. It just needs to be regulated better.
>He doesn't want to watch the new hollywood blockbuster "When The Seagulls Cry" on the big screen
I hope this bombs just so that Hollywood stays away from all the cute 2D girls.
I like the buildings so much. This is the only reason I'm going to go and watch it in the big screen.
They really could have done this and based it off the game. In the cut scenes they implied there's something high level than swat that takes care of terrorists. They could have told the story of that team and how it plays into the events of the game. The area looks pretty interesting too. The bay area is varied enough to make for good scenes. Everything that is already there just went out of control and expanded. They could have made a patlabor/tank police thing in the GiTS universe. Everyone would be happy if it wasn't shit. And if it was shit then people would be begging for it to be done correctly.
Disney already destroyed themselves with Frozen. Cock hungry princess wants to marry the first prince she knows. She has to save her autistic sister that ran away because 'nobody understands me' (Let it go is basically Elsa given everything the middle finger), meets guy, meets annoying sidekick that is more useful than her, falls for guy because annoying sidekick tells her guy loves her after two days of knowing each other, movie ends with hungry cock princess punching prince because 'I am an independent woman that needs no men' when she did jackshit to solve the mess her autistic sister caused.
I agree that this movie is obviously aimed on the west. But many movie companies are finding foreign markets to be more successful than western markets. Especially for ticket sales. And a lot of the movies aimed at the west like Marvel, Star Wars and etc are the more popular movies in China/Japan.
Their logic might be as simple as 'if we westernize Ghost in the Shell, then China will eat it up'. Sadly, that may just happen. Despite the Dragon Ball movie being the dumbest thing ever, it did well in China.
I'm aware. Though killing people isn't necessary if you can sway public opinion against them. Of course that's hard to do with how tightly Hollywood keeps a grip on the media.
>Disney already destroyed themselves with Frozen.
>goes on to explain why the movie is bad
I hate Frozen too. But it did the opposite of killing Disney. It gave them a huge boost to profits and set them on the course for making only 3D animation. Now, 20 years from now, that might end up hurting Disney. But its not hurting them in the short term. And all shareholders and CEOs care about is the 5 year term so they get their bonuses.
True, to a point. Though there are multiple projects. The team that created Zootopia isn't the same who created all these shit films for example. Though they do work together.
The Disney 'teams' these days are basically a collection of 30-40 kids who just got out of art school and are working on small 3 person teams to develop pitch ideas. And then compete against other teams to get their pitch greenlit. This started with Wreck it Ralph.
I expect the movie to be a shitshow, I won't be paying to see it. The art book might be nice to look at, though.
I'm really not fond of the giant holograms amongst the buildings. That looks kind of terrible to me, it smacks of an idea some producer wanted to include, like the producer for that Superman movie that didn't happen that was always trying to get a giant spider into one of his movies and ended up going into Wild Wild West
Man that concept art suck.
They just dont have the cultural awareness to pull it off, I mean seriously a robot geisha with a red dot because >japan dude.
That shit is just terrible, they would've done better by simply putting some robo hoes and call it a day.
It's unfortunate for them an actual Blade Runner movie will be coming out soon after. It'll probably show them how it's done.
I think Bladerunner was only okay, not the incredible masterpiece everyone claims it is. Cool setting, good cinematography, average acting, some philosophical merit. Tell me why I'm wrong.
It's directed by Denis Villeneuve, though, he's proving himself to be a pretty great director. I kinda wish BR2 didn't have to be made just as much as GitS, but of the two it's the one I'm more willing to see.
GitS I just really wish it was left alone.
I liked the backgrounds and the sets.
In terms of sci-fi I still think nothing beats DYRL tho.
If it was a nationalistic thing they would have done a proper Yamato Nadesico and not being so heavy handed.
If you weren't certain of it already, here's confirmation that ScarJo will indeed be taking on a robot tank in this movie.
Asians doing animation for Western IPs (which has been going on since the days of Toei doing Dungeons and Dragons) is completely different to Western companies trying to control Japanese creativity.
Blade Runner was basically Ridley Scott's version of 2001. A huge art piece. But unlike 2001, it still has character development and a story behind it.
Now Ridley Scott himself said he never intended it to spawn a whole sub genre. What we now call Dystopia. But the fact that it did means it is kind of a landmark film. But it also shows how shallow the majority of dystopias are. Because they focus so much on the atmosphere, they lack a story and characters. Which Blade Runner still had.
True. But like it or not, western studios have their fingers in anime. They have majority shares in half the production companies and TV stations in Japan.
Oh, I posted this without having thoroughly read through it...
That's the name they're going with? A name with "kill" in it?
Yeah, it's a half-assed photocollage.
MPC did some more comprehensive concept stuff, but I still think this is a pretty crappy looking world. The giant holograms (apparently called "solograms") remind me of the ridiculous giant sculptures holding up buildings and shit in the Schumacher Batman movies
Wait, the movie happens in Japan? And Murricans will have to go and save moonies' asses? If they are going to use Murricans actors why don't they just set the story in the states?
>Solograms are used to advertise big-name brands and are sometimes as large as skyscrapers [Rupert Sanders]
>a lot of sci-fi delivers a very apocalyptic vision of technology's role
I hope he isn't talking about GitS there. Because between Oshii's super-dense cityscapes and SAC's cleanliness, "apocalyptic" is the last word I'd use to describe GitS. Except for all the nukes used in WW3.
everyone probably also has augmented adblock
although I guess it would be within the capabilities of an augmented adblock to remove ads in the physical world from your view too
Blade Runner has no correlation to Metropolis aside from having tall buildings and androids. Both of which are not handled at all like they are in Metropolis. By that logic, you can claim GitS is also copying Metropolis. When in reality, it clearly took its inspiration from Blade Runner and other sources.
Its more closely relatable to 2001 because it was Ridley Scott's 'art piece' movie. And did something to revolutionize the scifi genre.
The book that is credited for being one of the starts for dystopia is what Blade Runner is based on.
Can't have a Japanese name in muh Hollywood movies. Might keep a few xenophobic idiots from watching it. Despite Hollywood claiming it wants diversity, they ignore Asians the most.
I think with this car (apparently it's Batou's) they've taken the strange decision Oshii made in Innocence to give Batou a retro 1940s-ish car, like that's some sort of future trend, and made the retro car trend be 80s-ish instead. In the trailer all the cars are no younger than around 92.
You're right. I was using the wrong term. Especially since Metropolis isn't a dystopia. Uts the opposite of dystopia, which is a genre that is so under utilized that it doesn't have a distinct term.
That does sort of resemble his car in the original Oshii movie though. Batou's car was basically future-90s-looking with some style changes they apparently didn't contemplate would go out of style.
>Uts the opposite of dystopia, which is a genre that is so under utilized that it doesn't have a distinct term.
Um... the opposite of a dystopia is a utopia...
I personally think ghost in the shell is boring, so who cares she looks just like the main character anyway so whats the problem? plus most anime character's look white anyway what's the problem.
Because when she doesn't dress like a slut, it's always better.
For me it's more the fact that SJ looks completely tame and sweet, not intimidating like the major in the movies or seductive and big like in the manga.
Major is a hard ass, add that the fact that she behaves like a machine in the movie, or seductive and playful/sarcastic in the manga, which would look dorky in SJ.
Also, the major is muscular, SJ looks like her usual next door girl soft body self.
I really see no fucking point in casting her as the major. If she went through a hard restyle and fitness program to make her more major like, it'd be all good, but she's not, and it's disappointing.
To be honest I think some of this stuff looks decent. The aesthetic for the robots is pretty good.
>really not fond of the giant holograms amongst the buildings.
>That looks kind of terrible to me, it smacks of an idea some producer wanted to include
guess they shouldn't have tried to be true to the source material because they're in the original manga.
>Also it didn't advertise itself as a Light Novel adaption, for good reason.
Source: your ass?
>trying to tell someone you want them to cease conveying their thoughts.
Ya nailed that one champ. What's your encore? Shooting yourself in the face while trying to show how to fire a gun?
You think that's bad? Wait till live action Naruto comes out, produced by Avi Arad (producer of Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, Fantastic Four movies, etc) and with a director in charge who has never directed a movie in his life (was a VFX guy). It will make GitS look like a god damn masterpiece.
I hope you're ready for Nicolas Cage as Gai, Jonah Hill as Chouji, and Jaden Smith as Sasuke.
>Wait till live action Naruto comes out, produced by Avi Arad (producer of Spiderman 3, Blade Trinity, Fantastic Four movies, etc)
>It will make GitS look like a god damn masterpiece.
Avi Arad is also producing GitS
Look at the list of movies he was involved in. 99% of them are complete shit. How does he keep getting work? Is he just a rich financier who buys the rights to it or something?
>How does he keep getting work?
Quality of movie doesn't matter if the movie made money. And sadly most of those did.
But pretty much the only movie on that list I like is the first Blade movie. Kind of surprised he directed it compared to all the others.
He's also the guy who suggested to Hideo Kojima that Kiefer Sutherland be the voice of Snake.
>make a naruhodo movie in Hollywood
>Brendan Frazer actually plays the part well
>it was actually enjoyable
>Brendan Frazer's career comes back to life thanks to phoenix wright
Fire at the Taco Bell!
Laughing man was seen at the Comiket today.
Some rapper has to play Killer Bee, probably some washed up has-been like Busta Rymes or Ludacris.
The role of Madara should go to Seth Rogen, just to hear him mispronounce sharingan and do his dying-sheep laugh.
Brendan Fraser is Pein, for obvious reasons.
>now that Marvel is old news
Since when? The movies are still selling way more than most franchises. Only reason they'd stop making them is if they didn't meet some ridiculous expectations. Like if Disney expected them to outsell Star Wars.
>What needs to be done is changing the western perception that animation is a lesser form of media.
Not is " western perception" is Hollywood perception. Hollywood think other media are scripts of live actions of giant budgets and AAA actors. This is why they release nine cape movies every year.
Now people are tired of capes and try with anime live actions.
He's the reason comic book movies are as popular as they are. For good or ill, he was the one who proved that comic book movies could make money and currently oversees Marvel's movie division.
Yes, a lot of those are stinkers, but that's the game in Hollywood.
Also, he's a producer. Which means he handles the funding for the movies, not the writing or the directing.
Of course, some producers can be cunts and dictate terms to directors to do if their way or they cut the funding. But Arad doesn't really do that.
The body suit is a bit stupid, but i don't see what's wrong otherwise.
DESU he would only do a pretty standard deconstruction, so he would have them do drugs, bang dudes from terrible local bands, get into fights with their parents like "it's no a phase mom", and shit like that.
Also, I still want my death devil anime, god damn kyoani get to it.
>Both got close to $200 million budged.
Pretty movies doesn't mean good movies.
Film took time looping, few character names, and the general premise of alien invaders... It could be said that it was inspired by the novel rather than based on.
>Source material is action flick too.
Was there action in original? - Yes
Does that makes original action flick? - No, ffs, anon.
>Wait till live action Naruto comes out
If the source material is pure shit, I can't image on how many levels that LA is going to fail. Maybe it is going to be so bad it would be good.
Why does /tv/ shitpost here now and then talking about how superior they think live action is? Most people just can't into animation, and the normalfags who do watch anime want it to be more normal, like them. Only a few people can appreciate anime as anime, and the majority of those are a bunch of forums with shit taste, and then there's /a/.
This one. I seriously want to see Hollywood just attempt it. I bet they'd get stuck just with casting.
>beato is now a lesbian feminist nigga
>kinzo is a spic
>the kids/young ones are 30-40 year old barely know TV actors all mixed in diversity
Producer A: "Let's make this girl ripped as hell!"
Producer B: "Then a bunch of men will be intimidated."
Producer A: "All right, we'll pick someone who's skinny and fit."
Producer B: "But then women will complain its perpetuating female stereotypes."
Producer A: "Fine! Then we'll pick a woman who is slightly chubby, but in a 'sexy' way that men like."
Producer B: "Remove the sexy part."
I would actually watch this it sounds hilarious
Ben Stiller is now my 3DPD Kakashi headcanon
What the fuck have you done anon?
He's mocking how Hollywood producers look at demographics. And he's actually spot on. The typical male is intimidated by strong women. Which is why almost all movies take the Princess Leia approach to 'strong' women. Lots of spunk, but still tiny in frame and needs a man to save them.
Edge of tomorrow is still better than Kill, Die, Repeat.
The fact that the guys behing the film were panicking over which name could bring more income just says how much of a miracle it was that the film was well received. They had no idea what they were doing, and I doubt they'll be able to replicate the same act in the incoming sequel.
If you think China isn't awash in fujoshi you really don't know anything. They're even thirstier than Japanese and Western ones due to their government trying to make it taboo.
Except Emily Blunt got praised for her role in Edge of Tomorrow. The real reason is simpler: ScarJo didn't bother. She knows that after Avengers, people will praise her anyway so she can phone it in and don't bother to prepare for her role.
I don't know what everyone else is saying. But I don't want live action adaptations of animated works period. I want Hollywood to just accept animation as a legitimate form of media and let the original teams do what they do best. Instead of gathering a bunch of people to remake an animated movie to what they think it should have been.
You'll be getting the same shit. You'll get the fujoshit you're complaining about as well as more battle harems and the like. Go lurk at chink communities, they like pretty much the same shit the nip otaku does.
I forget the name of that actor but I dislike her. She seems like the worst kind of 'normie', just a bland person with nothing to say, probably had 'relationship problems' with people and shit like that, does this make sense, I dislike this woman through only vaguely know what she is
she was probably in a superhero movie
Ah, here we go, the christian bale batmans
remember the lady that fuckin billionaire bruce wayne was supposed to be all about
that woman wasn't much of anything of an attractive woman personality or view wise
same feeling. olivia munn gives me a similar awful feeling
they should be like, the president's daughter in some terrible action film where the presidentss' daughter gets kidnapped and then be all "hiii-yah" and "woah the little kidnapped girl actually has some spunk" or some awful shit like that god why is this putting me in such a terrible mood
I dont even give a shit that they're live-actioning another anime franchise, they're all invariably going to be shit so its not like anything is going to be 'ruined' so
Where the hell is Togusa's Mateba?
Woah, looks like that live action Monster might actually happen.
>Guillermo del Toro: No, it's out of HBO, and now we're going to take it to other places but it's not active active until we pitch it. We are going to other companies to pitch it and see if anyone wants to do it. We finished writing a couple of the episodes, and so we have a sampler. We're going to go and see what happens with that, but very likely that will happen somewhere next year.
>break the stigma that animed movies need to be Pixar/Disney
There is no stigma. Theaters here in middle American show things like Redline and Akira yearly and it's always packed for days because they are the best anime movies have to offer.
Well the good news is that the inevitably wooden acting that will result from the shitty plot and casting will lead to a more convincing performance of the major's character.
Also, I'm pretty sure that no one needed or asked for this. I generally dislike most movies. It takes something really good to satisfy me in a mere 90 minutes, and when you get into that range of goodness, I'm usually going to be left crying like a goddamned baby by the end of it.
A gits anime made in fucking Hollywood was not going to turn out well no matter how you fucking slice it. It's a bunch of clueless shekel-fiends taking a sledge hammer to the series to try to remarket it in a cheap and easy way without ever actually learning about what made the source material so compelling in the first place.
Oddly enough, this gives me a little more faith in the new Blade Runner movie.
Yeah, but that's a pretty big name. It's kinda hard to have not heard about "Scarlet Johansson's new movie," if you live in the states.
That's what it's being marketed as, by the way. If it sounds like Hollywood is cancer that's because it is. Breaking Bad and the Mentalist are the only two American shows I've watched recently.
For fuck's sake, Shirow goes into detail about why he chose her name in the first fucking page of GiTS. He picked "Motoko Kusanagi" because it's extremely common female name + name of legendary weapon, so that any reader would immediately realize it's not her real name. He even explicitly says that the english equivalent is "Jane Excalibur". Why did they have to make one up?
Olivia Munn was cute in The Newsroom, but she played a character that admits to being socially-impaired. Shit when she was meant to have a normal personality in X-men.
For similar reasons I liked Scarlett in Lost in Translation, but her roles got more and more forced throughout the Marvel movies.
Jennifer Lawrence is a thirdexample of someone who's cute in the right roles, but has starred in some shit movies/unfitting roles and is at worst bland or annoying.
It's a shame here though because the Major is meant to excel because of her differences rather than be weighed down by them, and I just don't see Scarlett shining in this role at all.
>I'm pretty sure that no one needed or asked for this.
Any time someone askes what anime should be made into movies, all the stuff that was shown on Adult Swim gets mentioned. Ghost in the Shell usually right behind Cowboy Bebop and Eva. So there's been people asking for it.
But that doesn't mean Hollywood made this movie because of fan request. Rumor is that various people in Hollywood have been pushing for a movie themselves. Even the Wichowsky Brothers were trying to be a part of it at the start. This is going to be a movie greenlit and produced entirely by the entitled geeks in Hollywood who think they can do a better job than an animated product.
You should know by now that Hollywood doesn't hire actors by their acting talent. But for dumb things like only how they look or who they can get under contract rather than freelance. For all we know, Scarlett was chosen just because she had a [x] number of pictures deal with the studio and they told her to do it.
I do. My issue isn't just with talent (a given that people will be disappointed here) but putting to waste what they are actually decent at. Credit where credit is due.
It's like a 7/10 plot getting 6/10 actors and then only coming out in SD.
H O T G A R B A G E
To me is like a threesome between a delorean and a lotus, the countach is just practicing vouyerism.
>Redline and Akira yearly and it's always packed for days because they are the best anime movies have to offer.
OH come on, you gotta put a better bait for'em to bite /a/non
Does it ever occur to these people to get input from people that are actual fans?
I mean, if not why not just make a cyberpunk movie that vaguely derives from GiTS without having to pay the royalties to use GItS?
Where is gits supposed to take place anyways? For a while I thought Japan, but then watching the movie again recently it looked like it was in the cantons of Hong Kong with all the canals and Chinese characters with a lack of hiragana on all the signs.
>remaking all their classic films into live action.
Lol wut? I mean I know they are going full 3D hsit, but in have heard nothing about live action.
>inb4 cheap direct to video remakes
Live action fairy tales are nothing new, nor is Disney involvement in profiting from said adaptations.
>westerners have a shifting perception of animation
Sadly it's too little too late, Fuck Disney for this by the way. Before Disney started forcing the "cartoons are for kids" angle the industry was actually pretty much all ages, even sometimes adult only.
I destroying comics
Fuck off with your parroting bullshit, the only thing that's in the dumps right now is capeshit and that was never good. Alternative publishing is the strongest it's been since the CCA started mucking things up, though that's not really saying much.
That's due to corporate conglomeration and aggregation of the industry, and the east ain't much different than the west when it comes to corporate market rule these days.
>vaguely derives from GiTS
they are literally recreating all the famous scenes from the movie
i'm not saying it will be great but it will probably be a decent action movie and in typical hollywood style it will gloss over any kind of complex concepts or themes
Lets assume I buy the "not what people expected" argument.
Prometheus is bad, and incoherent. It shits on obvious logic, it makes trained professionals take the stupidest choices in one of the most ambitious scientific endeavours.
So yeah, people expected a good movie and all they got was a shitty sci fi-ish one
>This is also true for western products. Disney is basically destroying all its 2D animation. Not just future projects, but remaking all their classic films into live action. Because of the mistaken perception that people only care about live action. When in reality, the western audience is more interested in animation now than any time in history. As usual, Hollywood is trying to force their ideals, not following the trend of the public.
Animation is expensive and it doesn't have that star power the way a traditional film does. Hollywood is a very risk-averse industry. You might think a film has great potential, but they're not going to want to risk billions in potential profit on an unknown. True they often needlessly meddle and ruin films, but it's also true that the public has shit taste and will choose garbage over quality 9 out of 10 times.
Animation only came back into vogue with the Disney Renaissance, and then when Pixar blew up (and several traditionally animated films bombed) everyone moved to 3D. Even now Disney tries to stick to their Broadway musicals and cute characters for the merchandising (Frozen). Studios don't own theaters anymore, and they can't chain their films with B-movies either so the only serious, artistic films that get made are Oscar bait, which Pixar sweeps up every years because the Academy is run by Philistines. If you want to see traditional, 2D animation then you're going to have to wait until the next Walt Disney shows up to finance his own studio.
>Lol wut? I mean I know they are going full 3D hsit, but in have heard nothing about live action.
They've already remade over a dozen 2D films into 3D. Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Sleeping Beauty, Pete's Dragon, Jungle Book, etc.
And they have a dozen more being made between 2017-2018. I mean, they're fucking making a Dumbo live action movie. DUMBO!
>Live action fairy tales are nothing new, nor is Disney involvement in profiting from said adaptations.
Except they're specifically remaking the movies their company is famous for. They are in effect making adaptations of adaptations. This isn't a case of them making a modified Peter Pan. Its pretty fucking blatant they're just rehashing their 2D movies.
>Sadly it's too little too late
No it isn't. Animation is more popular today than it ever has been. Production companies just aren't seizing the opportunity and making 2D animation. Because they don't want animation to become popular after investing literally billions into CGI.
>Fuck Disney for this by the way. Before Disney started forcing the "cartoons are for kids" angle the industry was actually pretty much all ages, even sometimes adult only.
I don't like Disney himself much. But early in his career, he was actually the biggest advocate for making animation equal to live action. Which is why movies like Snow White, Dumbo and Bambi had some pretty adult themes such as death and the harsh reality of TV. Of course, he kind of forgot all that in the 50s and 60s and, with the help of Hanna Barbera, animation became synonymous with low budget and kids.
All of this is still reversible however. But companies don't work to change that perception. You either have animation aimed at kids or animation aimed at adults. With the only group in the middle being Pixar for the most part.
Can we get the tumblr SJWs on this or something? Maybe something about cultural appropriation or whatever.
I don't give a shit about that bullshit, but lets see if this'll get hollywood to stop messing with fucking classics.
I forgot to point out: Marvel was notoriously bad at making bland, "safe" films designed to churn out merchandise. The one exception? The one movie almost nobody but hardcore comic fans wanted to see: Guardians of the Galaxy.
They left it alone and let Gunn do his thing: the whole thing blew up and did what that hack Abrams couldn't do: remake Star Wars.
>Animation is expensive
And these 300 million dollar live action movies aren't? If anything, traditional 2D animation is far cheaper. A Japanese animation company can produce a movie for under 2 million dollars. And the most expensive ones get upwards of 10 million like Spirited Away.
And the irony of all this is, all the Marvel/Star Wars/whatever live action films are full of super expensive CGI. Which CGI is a form of animation. But 2D animation could do the same things for a fraction of the price.
>and it doesn't have that star power the way a traditional film does.
This is the real issue. Hollywood doesn't think the audience will accept anything besides live actors. As for star power, they use star power to sell all the 3D animated movies from Pixar/Dreamworks. Every character has some famous Hollywood actor and their animated characters are made to look and act like that famous actor. And 2D films did the same thing before 3D animation became big.
I actually hate it and think it kills one of the biggest strengths of animation, but that's an entirely different topic based heavily on opinion.
the only anime adaptation that could be great in live action is Firepunch, and only if they follow the style of movies like madmax or deadpool or machete.
I think there would be a good chance of it turning out e because hollywood has already done films with that sort of athmosphere and they were good.
Imagine firepunch made by quentin tarantino
but from the trailer, all you see is a bunch of "uuuh muh feelings, i'm not like everybody else" bullshit and nothing about puppet master or any of the plot from GitS.
And it's said that she's the first of her kind, betrayed and whatever which is nothing like the original at all
Star Wars VII was 'literally creating all the famous scenes from Star Wars IV'. But that didn't mean those scenes were good. You can go into a movie with good intentions and still ruin it.
Also, why even bother to make a total recreation of a previous movie? Of course they're not doing that. It'll have a few recognizable scenes and then otherwise be a super safe, super dull formula movie.
>they are adaptations
Yes but that's not the important bit, it how many resources they are commuting to them, if it's just to capture a small but significant market of live action dags it's still not indicate of the general trend. I mean Disney did a lot of shifty direct to dvd sequels, but they didn't mean they actually intended to make them a main revenue stream.
>Animation is more popular today than it ever has been
That's not saying all that much unfortunately. Besides if it really were hugely popular wouldn't someone fill the demand?
>Production companies just aren't seizing the opportunity and making 2D animation. Because they don't want animation to become popular after investing literally billions into CGI
And because 2d is more expensive, and Tallent ism rare since there's no pipeline, and no one even does a lot of this stuff in house anymore etc etc
>Disney was an advocate of animation
I was actually more referring to the corporate entity rather than the man with that.
>It'll have a few recognizable scenes and then otherwise be a super safe, super dull formula movie
It'll have the logo at the start, it'll have kusanagi and batou but with different names, it'll have the jumping off the building scene and it'll have the fountain scene but none of the original plot
It was also the first. Marvel didn't know what they were doing in the beginning, so they let Favreau have a lot of freedom (and gave RDJ a sweetheart deal). They did the same with Thor and Branagh (which was the reason why Natalie Portman signed on, and was pissed when he left). They baited directors into making their visions and dreams, but when the MCU took off they interfered and meddled until they quit their projects. Favreau, Branagh, Whedon, and Edgar Wright all suffered this fate. They replaced them with no-name directors who worked for peanuts.
Ike Perlmutter is a stingy, greedy bastard. He makes Scrooge look generous. He insisted they serve potato chips and pop at the movie's premiere, and then counted to make sure people only got can. Part of the reason he was forced out of the movie unit was because he threw a fit over RDJ's contractual fee - he ordered him written out of Civil War and Feige went around him. Tony Stark is integral to that plot and writing him out was impossible.
He also killed off the Fantastic Four title and most of the X-Men characters as a "fuck you" to FOX.
The Japanese also get away with things that aren't possible here and IIRC often do most of the outsourced work that isn't sent to Korea.
Besides, I never said it made any sense - I said they were risk averse and afraid to try new things. Hollywood is nothing but a giant game of "follow the leader".
2D animation isn't more expensive. As I already pointed out, its far less expensive to produce. The issue is how much profit is made after it releases. A typical 2D movie back in the 90s would cost around $50 million to make and then make around $200 million in ticket sales (with the extremely high end ones like Lion King making $350 million and the low end ones like Tarzan only getting about $100 million).
Fast forward and Pixar was able to make Toy Story for about $40 million dollars less than The Lion King cost ($80 million). And saw much higher revenues (Toy Story broke records for animated ticket sales). This initial boom right in the middle of Disney's 2D animation struggling caused Disney to go all in on 3D animation. Problem with this is, each 3D movie became more and more expensive to produce. Until now, you have movies like Cars costing $120 million to produce, Frozen cost $150 million, Finding Dory at $200 million, etc. Its an ever increasing production cost. While 2D animation costs have decreased dramatically thanks to digital. But Disney isn't going to stop making 3D movies until their profits fall. Brave is the only 3D movie to really fail enough to make Disney worry. And low and behold, Disney rushed out a few 2D films right after Brave.
I just looked up a list of the most expensive films ever made.
All of them have some form of 3D CG. And not a single 2D film on the list. Really makes you wonder what Hollywood is thinking. And maybe Japan has a better system.
>2D animation isn't more expensive. As I already pointed out, its far less expensive to produce
You are absolutely mistaken. You are equating two very different types of spending as the same.
Dollar for dollar quality 2d animation is many times more expensive with all the hurdles I have mentioned, as well as the inharent inefficiency of an artistic medium
>Its an ever increasing production cost.
Once again you are making a fundimental mistake, the cost has not increased, in fact the Voss have gone down. The reasons the budgets are increasing is because those who produce yhe movies are seeing greater and greater returns on investment. And thus choose to comit more arena more resources to said productions.
>He insisted they serve potato chips and pop at the movie's premiere, and then counted to make sure people only got can.
You're trying to sound like you're smart. But there isn't a different calculation for investment based on what the medium is. $40 in production costs is less than $200 million. Even if the eventual profit is higher for the $200 million dollar investment. Which I already explained is the case for all the 3D movies except Brave.
No 2D movie has ever had a production budget close to $200 million. Or even $100 million. And a 2D movie made today could be less than $10 million. Hell, it would cost more to hire the Hollywood voice actors than all the other costs combined.
>The reasons the budgets are increasing is because those who produce yhe movies are seeing greater and greater returns on investment. And thus choose to comit more arena more resources to said productions.
I can't exactly tell what you're trying to say with your typos or whatever is going on. But it seems like you're trying to say that companies are trying to put more money into production to get more money as a return. And that's completely illogical. A movie like Toy Story 3 was going to sell on name recognition. It didn't need to be more expensive than Toy Story 2 in production costs to make that profit. And later movies like Up had an even bigger budget, without the name recognition.
Spending more doesn't always result in more profit. As John Carter should have taught Disney. But they didn't learn their lesson.
>You're trying to sound like you're smart.
No I'm trying to be polite about your dumb as shit idea that just because you can make an anime for fourty bucks in your basement that it means that it is cheaper to make than a blockbuster
>no one has ever spent much on a 2d movie
Except that's not a convincing argument that 2d was practically dead by 2000s when movie budgets rose dramatically, up till 97 with titanic movie budgets very rarely got above 100 m. It's It's a moot point in any case because you have still yet to prove that the costs of producing 2D animation aren't higher than producing 3D when common sense ought to tell you otherwise.
YOU KNOW HOW MAGICAL AND UNIQUE ANIMATION IS HOW IT CAN BASICALLY DEPICT FUCKING ANYTHING STRAIGHT AND UNFILTERED FROM THE MIND OF ITS CREATOR?
WELL LETS FUCK THAT SHIT UP AND HIRE AN ACTOR OBLIVIOUS TO THE CREATIVE PURITY OF THE PROCESS OF ANIMATION TO BOTCH THE PERFORMANCE UP FOR THE VIEWING PLEASURE OF THE PLEBIAN PUBLIC
yeah w.e mang idc anymore
>watch Cuckstone's Snowden
>hey GitS is my favourite movie too, I'm such a nerd
>btw I'm also a pole dancer but I only do it to excercise
Fuck hollywood, they'd let a gorilla fuck their mom in the ass if someone paid a dollar for it.
They will find the formula for success one time or the other and then they will turn anime mainstream, everyone will know about it without having watched the original series or, godforsaken, read that weird black and white comic book. People will start to ironically like tame loli shows while condemning anything that's openly sexual and they'll get called nerds with a compliant smirk.
it will basically be
/a/ on a larger scale.
holy shit i can't believe how bad these gun designs are, and gits animated was gun hentai
>>151583724 looks like it would fit into a wh40k set
To be fair Passengers was never meant to be a real love story. The original script that was floating around forever was more of a horror movie. The romance aspect was more supposed to be disturbing and the character Chris Pratt is playing is supposed to be a lot more uncomfortable and creepy.
Then Hollywood decided to try and sell the romance aspect, cast a great actor (but not a good one for that character), and then tweaked the script to make it more like a romcom in space. Fun fact, Keanu Reeves was supposed to play him originally a long time ago.
Ridley Scott lost his touch long ago. I like The Gladiator as everyone else but let's be real, his movies were already shit at that point, when was his last good movie, in the 90's? Or the 80's?
Heard good things about Villeneuve, strangely never heard of him before, but the idea of a Blade Runner sequel is scary on it's own. Let's hope for the best, I'll watch a couple of Villeneuve movies and if I like them enough I'll be watching BR2 in the theatre, thing I almost never do.
Hes an outstanding director. Watch Prisoners, Sicario, and Arrival. I personally recommend Enemy too even though its a lot more artsy then his other stuff. Hes really damn good. Prisoners is one of my all time favorite movies so I'm pretty excited to see how he handles the new Blade Runner. I didn't get a chance to see Arrival but everyone was saying it was one of the best sci-fi movies in decades so I'm guessing it was good.
I can already see the media going overdrive
> When the Seagulls Cry is a moving psychological drama about a young woman's struggle with her gender identity in a society that does not accept her
> the concept of a Witch's game world serves as a chilling and heart wrenching allegory for how transgendered people as well as others with gender identify issues suffer from acceptance and rejection of what they are as individuals
>we are thus presented with the dilemma of Shannon being caught between who she is and how she used the personality of Beatrice to gain semblance of control of her identity
> the constant refusal of Battler's (pending name change to make it more Hollywood) acceptance of witches further parallels how in real life people constantly undermine the transgendered and view their disorders and struggles as 'fake' or has no scientific basis.
As of now, Can we change this motoko?
I found many nice motoko by using google.
I liked siccaro because of the satisfying violence and taticool action. The main girl was a bit of a wet blanket though.
Arrival was pretty meh however, the communicating with ayy lamos could have made for decent hard sci-fi but instead they had to throw in dumb
time travelbullshit that felt really out of place. Like they just looked at the last popular sci-fi thing *cough* interstellar *cough*, and tried to rip off the twist in an effort to boost ratings.
Haven't seen prisoners so I can't speak to its quality.
>Picture has camera motion blurs despite it clearly being focused in the center and having a focused central element
>That random glowing face right next to the geisha
Did they just try to slam as many special effects in this picture as they could without keeping in mind any sort of consistentcy or logical flow?
Oh and yes I do realize it was based on a short story that existed before Nolan's shit, I'm just saying that's how it felt while watching it. The story didn't translate all that well into film either, short form prose relying on narrative structure like tense rarely does.
>Blade Runner was known for and made the genre dystopia
Have you ever read 1984? Dystopian novels existed way before Blade Runner and even had film adaptations as well. Blade Runner is more significant to the development of cyberpunk movies.
>>Discover the incredible artwork behind the creation of Ghost in the Shell, the much-anticipated live-action film that brings to life the adventures of cybernetic detective Major Mira Killian and her crack cyberterrorism squad, Section 9.
>Major Mira Killian
Okay that was an understatement, she was the character who embodied the concept of "no fun allowed" in that movie. I mean, yeah she was the foil to the other guys, but it really just put a damper on otherwise enjoyable scenes. At least her uselessness and rigid adherence to rules and regulations wasn't painted as a good thing, so it was at least tolerable.
Her being kind of a wet blanket/push over was one of the main plot points. She was strict and did everything by the books. That was her character. A very strict, and sort of weak person.
He's also in talks to make a new movie adaption of Dune, which he's been very enthusiastic about doing.
Feels like tackling Arrival and then Blade Runner 2 is to prove his science fiction chops so he'll be granted a sci-fi magnum opus
>No I'm trying to be polite about your dumb as shit idea that just because you can make an anime for fourty bucks in your basement that it means that it is cheaper to make than a blockbuster
>anime for fourty bucks in your basement
>compared to a blockbuster
Yeah. My idea is the dumb one...
I already pointed out how a 'blockbuster' 2D movie were made for upwards of $80 million (Lion King). And with advancements in digital animation, that cost would be even lower today. If you got a more efficient company to make the movie, they could do it for $10 million or less, like Spirited Away was. No matter how you want to slice it, 2D is much cheaper to make than 3D. And you have no evidence to claim otherwise except insulting me and claiming I'm wrong.
>Except that's not a convincing argument that 2d was practically dead by 2000s when movie budgets rose dramatically, up till 97 with titanic movie budgets very rarely got above 100 m.
All the most expensive films ever made were full of heavy CG and ridiculous actor demands. Not a single one is 2D. And Japan is still able to make 2D movies that look fantastic for less than $10 million.
>b-but Japan is a special case and you can't make movies that cheap in Hollywood!
Wow, then maybe Hollywood should fucking change their system. What a concept.
Not that anon, but I read somewhere that it's not just a cost argument but the appeal of 3D. Apparently after Shrek became a colossal hit, Disney made the move into 3D. Basically they think it appeals to kids more than traditional 2d animation
That's what I was arguing above. And Disney actually focused on 3D because they were one of the major investors in the company that went on to become Pixar. Which, funny enough, was headed by a bunch of guys from Lucasarts, which Disney now owns.
Basically, Disney invested so much money into developing CG technology that they had to focus on it to make their investment worth it. This included breaking records not just for development costs, but also marketing. Disney didn't follow a trend of 3D animation. They are the ones who made it popular.
I hope this flops so bad that Hollywood will never consider anime movies again
Just like the recent failure of Warcraft and Ass Creed movie will make vidya game movies a thing of ridicule and never taken seriously in Hollywood again
>I hope this flops so bad that Hollywood will never consider anime movies again
As was said before, they've already had multiple anime adaptations fail. Still doesn't stop them. Especially since major people in Hollywood have been pushing for a GitS movie for 15 years.
Hollywood is actually full of tons of anime fans. As if it wasn't apparent enough by all the blatant anime copying.
If they were anime fans then they would know that anime stays in anime, trying for a live action adoption never works and has never been succesful.
From what I've seen of this GitS movie it will be the same.
>If they were anime fans then they would know that anime stays in anime
That's the problem. They don't. They like anime, but also think that live action is a superior medium to animation. Basically, they think they can improve on the original product.
The Matrix, Pacific Rim, Stealth, most of the Pixar films, etc.
And of course all the actual anime adaptations.
Some people claim Inception rips off Paprika. I've never been entirely convinced. At least Paprika is creative in its depiction of a dreamworld.
There's also Black Swan which is clearly very influenced by Perfect Blue, which Darren Aronofsky owns the film rights for, and yet he denies there's any connection between them.
He bought the rights for Perfect Blue so he could copy a scene from it wholesale in Requiem for a Dream. At least he was honest about that one.
>WAS BEING FRUMPY PART OF YOUR PLAN?
>IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I EAT, WHAT MATTERS, IS MY PERSONALITY
>CRASHING THIS SKIN-SUIT, WITH NO SURVIVORS!
>YOU'RE A BIG GIRL
>YES, I AM!
i'm glad Cameron decided he would rather work on submarines than movies after Avatar printed him even more money than Titanic did so he never got around to making that Alita movie he kept claiming he was going to do once the CGI software was matured and inexpensive enough.
It would've probably ended up looking like green-screen mess with a butchered Hollywood re-envisioning of the plot that would make that tedious shounen tourny arc Last Order look well-written in comparison.
Inspiration isn't limited to just the main concept. Pretty much every Pixar film has some hidden anime reference in it was Lassater is the self proclaimed biggest anime fan ever.
But I do think that movies like Up, Brave and Finding Nemo were directly inspired by Miyazaki films. And I wouldn't be surprised if Lassater tried to make his own version of Totoro soon.
AMERICAN KEEP YOUR HAND OFF OUR ANIME! JAPANESE ANIMATION IS FOR JAPANESE PEOPLES! YOIU GO HOME TO DUMBFUCKISTAN NOW! RUIN EVERYTHING JUST LIKE BUSH! ANIME IS JAPANESE! EVEN DOGSHIT KOREAN BETTER THAN AMERICAN PIG!
>Jaden Smith as Sasuke.
Didn't we already predict this a while ago?
It's like those full-building screen ads you'd see in cyberpunk flicks, except cranked up to 11.
Some are cool, like the geisha sitting on top of that building in the back or >>151581570
But they put in way too many of them, it just ends up looking like a cluttered mess, and not in a very good way.
I know someone who claimed that movie was one of the most manly badass things he'd ever seen and that it was just as hotblooded as Gurren Lagan. He's one of those people that have a shit ton of GL merch and never stop sucking it's dick too. Even now I still wonder how he could even the two are even comparable.