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About time for a new thread, I guess.

Still waiting for an official anime announcement, hope we won't have to wait too long for it.
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Soon anon, soon
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>Steins;Gate
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>>151560837
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>>151560726
Anime probably in 2018
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>>151561554
Didn't S;G 0 come out last year?
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It should be airing in 2017, not 2018.
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>>151562558
Most likely for the Summer 2017.
I really hope it will be a 24 eps series... which most likely will, if the new VN has roughly the same amount of material as the old one.
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>>151563160
Source?
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Anyone know of translations of Steins;Gate: Heni Kuukan no Octet beyond the first chapter. Or does it simply not exist
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>>151560726
Can't wait. Occultic;Nine was alright, but Steins;Gate was way better
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>By the way I never told you guys but I brought Mayuri's adopted daughter with me from the future, she went crazy and tried to kill me for some reason and escaped to the past oh and by the way she looks exactly like Kurisu for no reason at all
Godly writing, my fellow steinsgatians. Simply amazing.
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>>151563160
S;G0 has like half the length of the original.

>>151564861
She was a good friend.
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>>151565127
>S;G0 has like half the length of the original.
Does it? I haven't read the VNs, so I really don't know.

Was the original Steins;Gate considerably longer than what the anime adapted?
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>>151564371
Just play the game.
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>>151565278
Maybe I'm overestimating since that was quite some years ago, but I've completed the original within 40 hours, I think (though that includes all the fuckery with the text messages and extra endings), while S;G0 took 25 hours.
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>>151565278
Not too much, but I would say there was about 30% to 40% more content.
Just play it, there is no reason not to.
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Excited for A;C personally, the world sounds really interesting, more potential than O;9 for sure.
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>>151565464
If the anime adaptation covered roughly 65% of the plot in 24 episodes, I guess we can expect 24 episodes for Steins;Gate 0 as well, as long as they fully adapt it there should be enough material.

Also the first s;g anime was so popular they will be eager to shoot for the 2 cours.
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Are you Maho's boyfriend?
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>>151565601
What even happened in 0;9? Or should I watch it cause its one of "those' shows that you can't explain properly?
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Posting best girls
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>this is turning into a semi-general
STOP. 0 WAS FUCKING SHIT. WAIT FOR THE ANIME AND STOP MAKING THESE.
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Where are the Japanese stand users, Johtahlo?
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I don't know how an anon of the other thread said that Kyouma is a fake Okabe.

Kyouma IS the REAL Okabe. Okabe is not himself without his loud laugh and his passion.
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>>151568112
0 was great. Not the best, but a good ride.
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>>151568220
But anon... that is Okabe. The broken one. The fusion of both makes the whole. Dunno what to even call the whole.
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>>151568414
>the broken one
>repressing his own urges and lying to himself is now a part of Okabe
Nice one.
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Why does he look like Shaggy in almost every CG. It's ridiculous.
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>>151568220
Kyouma is part of the "real" Okabe. Okabe is made up of both his Kyouma and non-Kyouma features.

>>151568112
>MY OPINION IS ABSOLUTE
>STOP ENJOYING YOURSELVES
just ignore the fucking thread, dude.

>>151568051
Wait a sec... I recall Kurisu is about 160cm tall... just how damn short is Maho?
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>>151568592
140cm.
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>>151568516
>part
>"real"
>non-Kyouma features
The unique unreal thing is your brain.
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>>151568769
You sure showed me
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Did they fuck?
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>>151568220
Jesus Christ why did you have to carry this over into the new thread...
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>>151568854
She looks so fluffy.
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>>151568854
No. Maho is for being a bro not for fucking
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>>151568854
Yes, and Okabe screamed Kurisu's name while doing it
If you remove timetravel from the setting steins gate becames a seriously depressing NTR VN
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>>151568918
He's b8ing autists for (You)s.
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>>151568854
>Okabe looks like Leskinen
What did Huke mean by this?
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>>151569073
>implying Mayuri hasn't been cucked from Day 1
Most of the game is NTR, where Mayuri just wants her Hikoboshi, but gets cucked by Orion's hotpants.
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>>151568592
Well, that suits the story. 0kabe isn't being himself, tho.
>>151568516
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I sure hope Okabe is happy when Kurisu finishes improving Amadeus, Leskinen makes her and Maho his cumdumps with it and then starst WW3 using supersoilders
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>>151569530
Nigga what? Kurisu is deaf, and WW3 doesn't even happen in alpha.
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>>151569660
Alpha Kurisu gets kidnapped by SERN
Steins;Gate Kurisu will keep working in Amadeus, and the Amadeus endgame ends with war
Kurisu simply can't stop fucking humanity over
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>>151569913
>Steins;Gate Kurisu will keep working in Amadeus, and the Amadeus endgame ends with war
Does it though? The main reason that Amadeus was a factor in starting WWIII is that it had Kurisu's knowledge of Time Travel. In the Steins;Gate World line nobody knows that she can build a time machine so I don't think anyone would start a war over it. People might go after the core technology itself, but I'd hardly think it would escalate to WWIII.
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>>151569913
>>151570215
Steins Gate Kurisus's Amadeus research will digitalize Kimijima Kou.
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>>151570284
It does lead to that, but I don't recall him starting WWIII.
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>>151570439
As of 2020 there hasn't been a world war.
I am not the other anon who claimed Kurisu was starting WW3.
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>>151568051
Amen.
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>>151572048
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Despite everything, I love Moeka.
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>>151573835
Redeeming Moeka is probably the best thing 0 did
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>>151574682
Somebody needs to update this to include Maho. Maybe Kagari and Yuki as well, but mainly Maho.
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>>151574003
Gamma world line did a better job at this.
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>>151565447

S;G 0 and S;G both took around 35-40 hours for me.
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>>151564526
I just hope we wil not have the same problems in S;G0 and in O;N since it's very possible given the structure of S;G0
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>>151575817
Alwways nice to see a man of such good tastes here. I hope Steins isn't COMPLETELY over now, otherwise it would means that she only had one game for her to shine in, which would be terrible.
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who wore it better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImhfIv5NSqY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOP_WbZWZ9s
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>>151565410
A lot of people should do this nowadays as the game is legally available in English. Support the official release
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>>151568516
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>>151579333
I love Moeka, even if she's a murderous traitor
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>>151579719
>tu tu ru
What did she mean by this?
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>>151580169
Is it really betrayal when you invite the enemy into your home and tell them all your secrets
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22ru
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>>151579333
>Kurisu's soft chest

Hnng
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Where does the cannon arm Okabe come from? Ive listened to the gamma cd (which was great) but they didnt even hint at something like that.
I wanna get my gamma lore down pat
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>>151564861
Kagari is shit. No argument bruv
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>>151566870
Y-yes.
>maho would date a semi-clever shitposter
>it would mirror her and kirosu but with her as the dominant one
Bless that dog
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>>151583230
>Cannon arm Okabe

What?

>>151583572
Treat her well anon.
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>>151583619
You know, the pic floating around of him with a weird device behind him
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>>151583906
Could you post it?
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>>151583230
Just art somebody drew. I don't think it has anything to do with Gamma.
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>>151566870
>dating pets
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>>151585437
>posting a cat in dog territory
S;G Faris>0 Faris
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>>151585496
Miko Faris>Pajama Faris>S;G Faris>Wears warm as fuck hoodie and arm warmers everywhere Faris
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>>151560726

Well, Steins;Gate anime aired like 1 year an 6 months after the visual novel got released in Japan, right?
So, will it be the same case with Steins;Gate 0 anime? 1 year and a half after the visual novel which got released 10th december 2015 in Japan? July 2017 aka Summer 2017 release? PV when? ;_;
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>>151586559
0 has the fact that is an anticipated sequel going for it. There should be less wait time.
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>>151585564
I love Suzuha's longing for death.
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>>151583928
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Any chaos;head fags here? I got some questions.
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>>151579719
wow there was a lot more tuturu than poyaya
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You know, Okabe crushes on Kurisu pretty damn early in the VN once you start paying attention.
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>>151588843
Ah. That's just a Black Rock Shooter crossover pic.

>>151589031
Can you blame him?
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>>151586559
>inb4 one cour
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>>151589031
To be fair it looks like it's also the case with Kurisu, or at the very least she was a lot more.. "interested" that it looked like. She probably just loves weirdos thanks to her father.
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I played through 0 and there's one thing I don't get. Why didn't the Okabe who sent the D-RINE overwrite Vega Okabe with his Reading Steiner?
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>>151592429
Okabe overwrites his self at the same point of time as he sends the d-mails. What we saw is the result of the mail, the part that always got skipped in S;G
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TUTURU
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wtf is this thread about an ova of it? inb4aired ages ago.
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Why was milky way crossing so fucking short? It feel so unfulfilled
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>>151592676
It's mostly about S;G0, the new game
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>>151569153
No he doesn't.
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Why the fuck does psvita still exist, it was one of my most regretted purchases in ages. Japan needs to fucking get with the times.
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>>151592805
I like my vita, it's mostly held alive by third party since sony themselves doesn't recognize it at all
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>>151592575
Wasn't the d rine sending okabe from promised prosciutto?
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>>151592775
12? Weird. I'm in Europe and it's 16 here. Probably because of the war scenes in the future.

>>151592805
Because there is a lot of good games on it. Except that it almost never leaves Japan. But if you love RPG and are ok with iimport and, even better, with japanese as a whole the Vita is a truly great console.
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>>151592429
[Spoiler]He probably did.. On the calendar, the D-Rine was sent 6 months after the end of Vega & Altair[/Spoiler]
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>>151592676

>living under a rock for over a year
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>>151592928
It was. and then we basically see the new timeline after the D-mail (which means exactly the same one except for the end). It's seen as a viewer's PoV rather than Okabe's PoV when it comes to this one.
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>>151590276
>one cour
>they adapt Gehenna's Stigma only
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>>151593010
It's usk (german rating system), they rate separately from pegi. They also have atrociously huge logos that ruin the covers
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>>151593322
If nothing else the reaction would be amusing.
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>>151588880
It was all a delusion and the delusion became real
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>>151593322
>they adapt mother goose only
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>>151593574
that route was actually just boring
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>>151592805
Because it's a nice handheld with lots of good titles.
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>>151592775
>USK version kaufen
>nicht für 15€ weniger und ohne gigantisches USK-Siegel aus Bongland importieren
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>>151595144
War faul genug es vom deutschen Amazon zu bestellen. Dafür habe ich es 3 Tage vorm Release bekommen
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>>151595144
>>151595202
cum spuneti voi, fratilor.
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>>151595202
Fa faool kenuk es fvom doits shen amasson dsu pest ellen. Tafiurr hape ijj es san Tag-e fvorm Rele asse pekommen
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>>151595421
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>>151595434
da sunt, tu cum esti?
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>>151593322
Fine by me. It's pretty cool.
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>>151593322
>they adapt Promised Rinascimento only
I'd be fine with that. It's the most hard-hitting route.
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Guys I figured it out. Okabe is the observer, I'm the observer. Okabe's waifu is Kurisu, as is mine. I am Okabe aren't I?
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How the fuck does the Promised Risanamento D-Mail, not only go back in time, but traverse worldlines that shouldn't exist at the time?
>D-mail originates in a worldline where he keeps phone off
>only one worldline can exist at a time
>ends up in a worldline where the phone is on
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>>151592429
S;G is kind of inconsistent in that part. Wouldn't 2025 Okabe overwrite himself in the Steins Gate worldline?

And how worldlines themselves work is wonky. Is there only "one" worldline which gets reconstructed every time you fuck with time (like in Legacy of Kain, for example)? If so, when does it stop "existing"? The moment when past is altered? Most likely, though 0 kinda fucks this idea over since worldlines change when something happens with Amadeus and it's explained as "someone eventually will change past using Amadeus".
Or maybe they all exist in parallel? In which case... why does it all matter? Steins Gate worldline still exists and in there both Kurisu and Mayuri live.

tl;dr S;G's time travel mechanics are influenced by the needs of the plot, so who the hell cares. We read/play for the characters, not sci-fi aspect.
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>>151597532
>Wouldn't 2025 Okabe overwrite himself in the Steins Gate worldline?
Because he sent a d-mail to an observer, the world line would not change until that observer did a further change based on the previous change, and thus that observer is the one to overwrite anybody else.
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>>151597532
>Steins;Gate has been widely known to English speakers for more than 5 years now and people STILL get confused by worldlines and claim that more than one exists at a time

I swear this wasn't as widespread a couple of years ago.
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>>151597507
Those aren't different worldlines.
>>151597532
It's not inconsistent. You just have to keep close attention. Not every pov is from the oberserver's position in Zero. There is only one timeline that gets reconstructed, if you can't even keep track of basic shit like that you should probably not try to break your pretty little head about the other stuff. :^)
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>>151597622
The observer is determined by the plot, so he's not wrong when he said

>S;G's time travel mechanics are influenced by the needs of the plot
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>>151597785
>The protagonist isn't just a random unimportant dude
Well, yes.
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>>151597532
>>151597785
About that 2025 D-mail point. I can't remember: Did they actually send the video before Okabe left with the time machine? They might just bypassed the shift that way.
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>>151597785
Observers are just people with perfect reading steiner though.
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>>151597661
Following stories is HARD.
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>>151597870
Ruka should have sent the nostalgia drive mail after he departed.
And bypassing it, yeah.
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>>151597507
>only one worldline can exist at a time
Zero proves that theory wrong somewhat. Only one worldline exists at a time in the perspective of that worldline, however, slight changes are so minor that technically heaps of more or less the same futures exist simulatenously as their contents is irrelevant to digervange or attractor fields.
Think changes that don't activate the Reading Stiener.

As such the 'one' world line acts as a mean while the possible futures and their subsequent presents within a standard deviation of line divergance are able to affect the 'one' line.
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>>151598354
I could understand not getting parts of the plot or something, but how could you not grok that which is explicitly stated and explained for you like worldline mechanics?
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>>151597622
No. He never sent the D-mail, otherwise his D-mail WOULD have gone off. The trick is he let the others send it AFTER he got in the time machine and left the world line. Zero okabe is still active in another worldline and will be the protagonist of the third game (screen shot if you don't believe me).
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>>151597661
S;G contstantly updates its theory on time. Recursive causality works across worldlines and as such there is 'more than one'. It's just that they have to have been united by the Aleph. It's the same reason Okabe had to fuck up saving Kurisu once before he could read the MMS.
Do you even fucking read this series?
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>>151598872
Come on. All S;G and Zero and even Load Region of Deja Vu offer good enough conclusion for the series. It doesn't need anything more.
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>>151598952
They left it open intentionally. It is the same trick they used for Zero, a seemingly innocuous timeline that just -does- this integral action and your supposed to assume it went of without a hitch.
They are milking this cow.
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>>151598872
>the third game
Like what, Steins;Gate ∞?
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Do you think Gamma is the original worldline?
If I remember correctly Okabe experienced heavy Reading Steiner as a kid around 2000. That must have been Gamma Suzuha stopping the Committee of the 300/Godemperor Okabe by preventing the Y2K problem, shifting the world to the Beta worldline, or am I mixing stuff up?
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>>151598913
Nothing about the plot makes a lick of sense if there are multiple co-existing lines.
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>>151599083
Again, there is only one 'active' at any given time, a prime line, if you will. However the observation of the prime line can be altered, via reading stiener, to another line.
If we consider a prime line one that is currently active, an active line on that has been observed by the Aleph and all else dead lines we can get a better idea of things.
All lines in zero were technically active as they had a reading stiener Okabe in them and at one point were observed. That connection of observation allowed for a causal recursion which allowed Okabe to send the MMS AND to safe guard Mayuri's jounrey.
Remember S;G okabe couldn't percieve Zero's message without meaningfully linking his observational perspectve (and thus worldline) to his own by watching Kurisu die.
Zero okabe fucks off for an awesome adventure and hands S;G okabe the wheels as the new prime observer.
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>>151599069
S;G -1. They are lost in time, remember? I predict cross setting fun and adventure. They've plumbed the idea of iterating the cast over. It will be βSuzu, Vega Mayuri and true Zero Okabe.
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>>151599074
α is the original and predestined world line. βSuzuha fails to stop the 2yk but CERN doesn't make it worse either so nothing is altered. Okabe makes the time machine without prompting or anything similar and thus starts the CERN involvement. It's only with further alteration that it goes to β field or γ
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>>151569236
>implying Mayuri hasn't been cucked from Day 1
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>>151598872
Honestly, if they're milking S;G even more, the only thing that I can see them exploring more would be events after that Distant Valhalla short story.
But then again, the pachinko video pretty much shows they don't have much idea on how to continue it.
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>>151599310
Cucked implies that she ever had a shot. Okabe had her in the Autism-zone almost immediately.
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>>151599341
>Distant Valhalla
What's all this then?
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>>151599224
>S;G -1
Nah, name needs to be even cornier.
Steins;Gate Infinity
Steins;Gate Horizon
Steins;Gate Shattered Time
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>>151599190
They weren't active simultaneously. You can easily explain that by saying that divergence was shifted through Suzu going back physically or a D-RINE getting sent. Engineering the conditions for the true end was an iterative process.

Also, Reading Steiner is the ability to perceive worldline shifts, not trigger them.
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>>151599276
The anime and VN started in Beta though.
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>>151599387
>You can easily explain that by saying that divergence was shifted through Suzu going back physically
Except that it was shown twice to NOT exist that way.
First example being the aforementioned MMS, the second easy example being Daru's MMS explaining that he is from a different future and she is not HIS daughter.

There is a margin of error from active timelines. Think of it has a mean and standard deviation. The deviations share causality with the mean but only the mean is 'active' in the traditional sense.
Mayuri's choice and Okabe's murder changed their world line enough that True Zero worldline entered their stardard deviation.
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>>151599440
It started in β line but would always have entered the α field. In short, an unaltered β line results in an α field.
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>>151599375

Distant Valhalla is a short story of what happened to Okabe, Kurisu, and Daru after they agreed/were forced to work with CERN.
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>>151599276
Ahh, fuck I forgot. Y2K did happen in Beta but it wasn't that severe. It only got completely fucked up because of the Committee in Gamma. I thought initially Y2K only happened in Gamma.
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>>151599445
That's because the act of sending a D-Mail changes the past. The future it was sent from can't logically exist as a result. So it's pretty obvious why the Daru in that video would say he's from a different future and that the past Suzu is not strictly his.
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>>151599387
>Also, Reading Steiner is the ability to perceive worldline shifts, not trigger them
Of course, however the idea of an observer is pointless without the concept of Reading Stiener. If non-linear perception were indeed impossible then it wouldn't be wrong to consider all lines as 'active' as each other. It's only through okabe linking them all together that the question becomes pertinant, as otherwise, most alterations would be wiped out by the previous alteration and iterative causation would only link a handful of worldlines.
That is to say, for example, a d-mail would eventually get wiped out because of another d-mail and so on making sure no comprehensive causation persists after a certian level of alteration.

>>151599549
I really want to know about the attractor fields on the otherside of the Y2k. Iirc Okabe had stiener sickness as a kid around that time. Something went down, whether it's Vega Mayrui messing with shit and causing a loop or another doomed timeline
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>>151599602
Wrong. In the scenario you're proposing the Suzuha he is speaking to is still his own as he would be communicating with the one HE will eventually send back. Remember the Suzuha is causally loopped until the D-mail. That he specifies that it isn't her is telling.
In your scenario he would be sending a d-mail to the daughter he would inevitably send back had he not sent the D-mail, or rather the daughter he had already sent back allowing him to send the D-mail.
Furhter, explain True0 and S;G okabe with your current model of intra field causality.
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It is absolutely true that Okabe & Daru are much more blight than Kurisu.
In Japan, the college that they study at is not a good school, so i feel incompatibility for their character configurations.
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>>151599672
Suzu travelling back and the D-Mail cause separate shifts. There is no issue.
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>>151599750
That only works on the warrant that Suzuha returning creates an inherent shift. Given that all the worldlines in 0 other than true0 result in Suzuha appearing and setting her parents up while hassling Okabe I think this presumtion is flawed. Suzuha is as fated by convergance as she is paradoxical.
Her birth determines her appearance and her appearance determines her birth. Not unlike the paradox song. There is nothing to suggest that her leaps in β are iterative in nature.
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>>151599821
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>>151599843
>ultimately attractor field convergence merges them into a single worldline
>Suzuha is always sent back
>she scene is the same each time
Yes there is infintesimal divergence from her travel but it is parsed out by the time it is time for her younger self to be sent back. It's recursive not repetative. So long as her involvment inevitably converages on the same point (which it does unless someone makes a sig dif to the divergence) she is paradoxical.
Cheers for that, it sums up the phenomena well.
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>>151599964
How do you somehow get paradox from that?
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>>151600083
It's like a spiral rather than a circle. Rather than Suzuha (line 1) creating line two and getting Daru to beget Suzuha (line 2) who goes on to create line three and getting Daru t- [...]. It is more like:
Line 1.001 is created. Suzuha affects her own birth resulting in convergance to 1.00. Suzuha is sent back. Line 1.002 is created. Suzuha affects her own birth resulting in convergance to 1.00.
It's a fractal. A pattern that perfectly repeats itself but changes superficially to do so. Recursive rather than repetitious
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>>151600226
Not really, no.
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>>151564861
To be fair there would literally have been no reason to mention her if Okabe would just get in the damn time machine.
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>>151568516
huke STILL can't fucking draw his face consistently after 7 goddamn years
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>>151600306
>game says convergance effect irons out minor divergent kinks
>both work on the same principle as attractor fields which are just major episcentres of such phenomena
>Suzuha is just doesn't get affected by such things because-
>still can't reason S;G Okabe's perception of the MMS because-
Sasuga

>>151600350
To be fair there would have been literally no reason to mention her if the team didn't create her character. Internal logic is dictated by external mandate.
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>>151570515
Get outta here Titor
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>>151600350
>if Okabe would just get in the damn time machine
S;G0 is literally Eva now
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>>151600425
>telling best girl to leave
Fuck off Daru. She can talk with us if she wants to.
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>>151593061
Which is honestly one of 0's main downfalls, really.
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>>151593061
>>151600471
Okabe wasn't present during the D-rine. His Stiener cannot activate.

The story stayed with the reader's perception not unlike S;G's ending not including Zero's content.

Remember the D-rine isn't enough. It's only one of two catalysts. Vega Mayuri has to be there too.
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>>151597400
>willfully missing out on the scene where Suzuha tries to force Okabe into the time machine
>willfully missing out on Milky Way Crossing
>willfully missing out on Vega and Altair
C'mon, 0 had lots of great moments and they really can't adapt just one main route without the other unless they change a lot of shit.
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>>151600539
I didn't say any other routes didn't have good scenes, just that if they animate one and only one route, it'd better be Promised Rinascimento.
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>>151600424
Suzuha can't generate a paradox by going back because she affects divergence when she uses the machine.

>S;G Okabe's perception of the MMS
What is the actual problem you have with this? You aren't articulating yourself well.
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>>151600598
>not twin automata
It has the best but least relevent story of all the routes. I'd both love to see it adapted and love to see people lose their shit over it being the route chosen in a 'only one cour and one route' scenario
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>>151600424
>To be fair there would have been literally no reason to mention her if the team didn't create her character. Internal logic is dictated by external mandate.
Sure, but the internal logic here isn't inconsistent with anything. While it's a bit of a stretch for another time traveler to have existed without Suzuha mentioning her, there's nothing paradoxical or illogical about it. If Kagari herself was better utilized no one would even have an issue with it because it's not a hole or inconsistency, it's just not an entirely honest way to introduce a new character.
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>>151600465
>best girl
I don't see Kurisu's handle. What are you talking about?
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>>151600681

Twin Automata is 100% the best ending in the game. It's what almost redeemed my least favorite character, had a lot of good character development and interaction and it was a Maho focused ending which is also a big pro to me.
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The Promised Rinascimento, Vega and Altair, Milky-way Crossing. They will have to adapt it in this order.
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>>151600534
He was present during the D-Rine sent from Promised Rinascimento. The issue is that he doesn't react at all to it.
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>>151600681
It'd be even more amazing if they animated Gehenna only. The outrage would be beautiful.
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>>151600730
They'll probably have to throw in random things from other endings though.
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>>151600716
>implying I don't have KuriGohan filtered
Titor doesn't post with Kurisu's handle in the first place, you must be sorely confused.
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>>151600730

To make a coherent story they need to but it sucks missing out on like Gehenna’s Stigma
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>>151600740
Not sure how to stuff in the things in Mother Goose though.

Not that I'd want them to anyway.
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>>151600730
We know that's the logical order. It's more fun to imagine the reaction of anyone who didn't read the VN if they adapt one of the other endings only.

>>151600740
They probably won't be able to fit more than Promised Rinascimento + Vega and Altair + Milky Way Crossing even in 2 cours. Would be great to have the interview scene from Automata in there somewhere, though.
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>>151600598
Honestly, either route is fine if they plan to only adapt one route.
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>>151600736
>get the call in Daru's hideout
>take it
Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I miss it.
>don't take it
>everything goes to shit
>assume it's going to be a bad end and decide to read it
>it goes on and on
>an entirely new chapter
>ends up hype as fuck
And that's how I got Vega and Altair as my first ending. Too bad S;G0 didn't really live up to my expectations set up by it. Still absolutely worth a read, though.
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>>151600748
>filtering best girl posts
What kind of pleb must you be to do such a thing?
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>>151600769
If they're only doing one route I'm not sure which would be better, seeing as Promised Rinascimento's ending is a lot more open than Vega and Altair's which, to some, might easily look like the true ending by itself, but some of Rinascimento's scenes like the alpha jump and, in particular, waking up in 2036 are absolutely crucial for Okabe to actually get back to it.
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>>151600810
The entire experience is a lot better if you get Promised Rinascimento first, in my opinion.

Also it seemed pretty obvious in Daru's hideout that the call would lead to a bad end, but in hindsight I'm not sure why.
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>>151600736
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4NOcUL3ES0 plays over the final credits
Perfect.
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>>151600863

I got Gehenna’s Stigma first and I think it was a great first ending because it really put the scare of being unable to prevent WWIII into me for the rest of the playthroughs.
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>>151600671
I'll get back onto suzu in a sec but in terms of the MMS what I mean to say is, how do you explain the message being untenable until Okabe kills Kurisu with your time model? Especially given that True0 Okabe literally states that it was that event that linked them enough for the MMS to be visible. By your purely iterative theory of time travel the MMS should be all rights be entirely visible at the time of being recieved.

The whole point of Zero was to show a) recursive time and the overlapping of worldlines (main three routes) b) the nature of the reading stiener and it's relation to the ultimate self (twin automata and Stigma)
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>>151600736

>entire anime viewerbase ends up hating Maho forever

No this is not ok.
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Currently at the part where Okabe is with Suzuha at the lab while Yuki and Daru are awkwardly talking.
I want to get a good end but I think I will just play and make my own decisions. I just hope I don't get a shit and boring route like the Maho one or the Kagari one
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>>151600863
Definitely. I went from Twin -> Goose -> Rinascimento -> Gehenna -> V&A, and it worked very well as a narrative. But reversing it would also work, it'd just feel a bit repetitive when skipping through the scenes to True End.

>the call would lead to a bad end
Strange. For me I felt not answering would lead to a bad end, hence my little trip into Gehenna first.
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>>151600922
Anime only fags shouldn't be allowed to pat my dog anyway.
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>>151600922
This is fine, Maho should stay exclusive to people with good taste.
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>>151600932
>Maho one
Don't talk shit about Twin Automata. I know your IP, kiddo. One phone call and a team of Rounders is on to your ass.
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>>151600932
>shit and boring
>kagari
Spot on
>maho
I hope your game crashes
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>>151600882
And slap a pic of laughing Chiyomaru at the background
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>>151600932
>boring route
>Maho route
Anon are you asking to get smashed by my Stratfor thugs?
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>>151600725

Sadly, despite those benefits the ending offers virtually nothing for the plot of Steins;Gate and S;G 0.
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>>151600932

>Twin Automata
>boring

Man you're in for a fucking treat if you get ANY ending in 0 if you think that was boring. I expect to see you back when you get Milky-Way Crossing.
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>>151600882
I mean, this would appease the tards who said S;G ended too happily.
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>>151600975
>>151600972
I remember watching the stream of the game the day it went out. I partially missed the Maho part but everyone is the chat was waiting and got surprised when it ended, because nothing happened.
I hate Moeka, and if I want to follow Maho, I want her to interact with Okabe because they can work well imo. It's not a never ending banter, it's 2 people who are quite similar.
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>>151601036
>stigma airs for free
>BUY THE OVAS for the other routes
Perfect plan. Sucker them in for free, apease the anime only crowd with suffering and rake in the sweet sweet otaku bux
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>>151601021
There is no point in Milky Way Crossing. Isn't that one like 10 minutes? And is after Promised Rinasomething
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>>151601051

So you just hate character development, all right. If you wanted to complain about it legit a good way to do that is all of the character development means nothing since it's a side ending.
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>>151600932
Maho route surely ain't boring, but I like it the least.
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>>151601081

Vega and Altair.
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>>151601015
I'd argue it plays quite an important role. Sure, Moeka development and infodumping on AI isn't really that important. But establishing Reyes as an antagonist, Maho and Kurisu's relationship and Amadeus' nature (Amadeus Kurisu suddenly experiencing RS)? Those are all pretty key factors in understanding more about how characters act in other routes.
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>>151601072
>BUY THE OVAS
>not series of movies
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>>151600932
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>>151601085
I like Gehennas Stigma the least, the ending doesn't equal out all the reused scenes
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>>151601081
It's after Vega and Altair and I really don't understand why people didn't like it. What exactly were you expecting? It sets up the true end to S;G perfectly and has the best CG in the game, Okabe getting in the time machine.

It may not be particularly hype and it's a bit short but it's exactly the conclusion 0 needed.
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>>151601081
>Rinascimento
After V&A actually. And more importantly, it's key to understand how everything connects back to that slap scene right before S;G True End.
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>>151601120
S H A M A N G I R L S
H
A
M
A
N G I R L S H A M A N

WHERE
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>>151601051
>nothing happened
>「Kurisu」's awakening and subsequent Pseudo Stiener
Nigger what are you on?
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>>151601163
Then she got deleted literally a minute later and nothing of consequence was done.
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>>151601163
He probably missed out on it. Unsurprising for someone who hates Moeka that much though.
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>>151601192
This really isn't the series for you if that's what you consider unimportant
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>>151601192
Yes, apart from confirming Amadeus is basically a perfect copy of a human, thus allowing RS to happen. This explains why the whole Okabe deceiving the world thing in Rinascimento works and he's still Okabe.
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It's always fun when you get the bad ending in both Steins;Gate VN first run without guide etc
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>>151601192
>nothing of consequence
>「Kurisu」confirmed of non-linear time perception
>no memory overwrite like Okabe
>knew about Steins Gate in a way that seemed intimate
Quite frankly the developments surrounding the nature of Reading Stiener were the MOST important parts of zero and as such Twin Automata was the most important route for understanding the rules.

We already knew Okabe would send S;G okabe to Steins Gate. We didn't know about all the RS developments.
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>>151601136
Might be because of different expectations of what people want S;G 0 to offer.
Maybe it's just me, but if one's already familiar with Epigraph, they'd know what to expect.
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>>151601235
Hey, at least you helped him find the shaman girls!
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>>151601235
>bad end
Name the bad end in S;G. If you name the wrong one we're going to have an issue.
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>>151601105
>>151601136
>>151601151

Is it hard to understand if you don't get the ends in right order?
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>>151601267
Not him, but Faris, definitely.
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>>151601267
True End
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>>151601274

No but you need to get Promised Rinascimento to get the true ending which a part of Vega and Altair.
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>>151601253
You don't need to be familiar with anything aside from S;G's actual fucking ending to know what to expect.

>>151601274
Not really, as long as you're paying attention.
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>>151601274
Not really, but you do need Rinascimento to unlock the True End.
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>>151601291
I don't know if I'd call Faris a bad end.
Luka? Definitely. Suzuha and Faris' endings aren't so much bad as they are different, though. Just like you wouldn't technically call the Mayuri or Kurisu endings bad ends despite both definitely being bad compared to the True End.
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>few understand why leskinen did what he did other than being 'evil'
>literally had the best goals in mind
>tried but failed to achieve his selfless ambition
>leskinen is both misunderstood in the VN and by readers
Is this supposed to be a meta joke? Why is the hero of the series getting this sort of treatment?
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>>151601362
Because filthy gaijin aren't entitled to shaman girls.
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>>151601291
Good call.

>>151601343
Faris breaks the divergance metre iirc. Fuck knows what happened but it doesn't seem good.
>bad compared to true end
>life with α Suzuha and a completely unknown future that is potentially not within any known attractor field
>bad
Your taste is bad.
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>>151601362

His brainwashing is pretty fucked up.
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>>151601267
Gehenna's Stigma
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>>151601395
>trying to save everyone
>okabe just wants to get his dick wet without crying about his special needs quasi-sister
Who is really fucked up here?
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>>151601398
>best boy almost won
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>>151601385
She didn't break it, it just doesn't exist anymore because the divergence is so great that the Lab doesn't exist. It's not really that bad an end but it's definitely not a "good" end either.
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>>151600910
Because he couldn't have sent the message without the trauma of killing her.
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>>151601398
I said S;G not 0

>>151601447
>they never expanded on Stigma's end
He really may have. I wonder whether he did succeed.
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>>151601447
Kind of funny, pathetic and outrageous. How I am suppose to react to this ?
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>>151601385
Suzuha's end isn't in a completely unknown future, it's in the alpha attractor field's past.
I mean it could be argued that the changes they make to the worldline are unknown to us but give what happened to Suzuha when she went back on her own there's no guarantee that anything in the future will change. Regardless it's shameless escapism instead of actually dealing with the situation properly.

As for Faris' end, it doesn't break the divergence meter, it just doesn't exist because the lab doesn't exist. It's not really a good end but not a bad one either. It's unlikely that SERN maintains a dystopia in the future of this one, at least, since no one in the cast is pursuing time travel research.
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>>151601451
By the way, if I remember correctly S;G, wasn't Okarin an absolute shitter at RaiNet? How can he play it with Faris at her end?
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>>151601459
That's not how D-mail works.
Returns to β -> kills Kurisu -> Zero recursion -> sends MMS
~>MMS
Returns to β ~> recieves MMS and can read it -> saves Kurisu (before or after killing her, not relevant)

There is no casual reason to have it only perceptable after according to your model. Sorry.
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>>151601480
If we look all the end the worst would be the Lukako end but if we go in the dev sense and Steins;Gate 0 come from the 'Bad end' in Steins;Gate the bad one would be the mayuri end
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>>151601510
He was, and in the new world line he still is. In fact, it's one of the reasons why Faris believes that he's an Okabe from a different world line. She starts coaching him back to Gamma Okabe's level at the end of the route.
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Can someone dump the translated stickers from steins;gate 0? Thanks
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>>151601542
Only after killing her could he have done what he did in 0 and then sent the video D-Mail back to himself.
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>>151601603

Do you mean these? http://imgur.com/a/KlMHP
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>>151601508
>no garantee
Moot point. Time travel is no more effective than a time leap or mail. S;G was opened via travel after all. Suzuha ED is a literal open book. It's not unreasonable to expect them to have ended in a different attractor field, especially with stuff like Gamma floating around and showing how volatile α line is in terms of diverging to other lines.
>escapism
And making a utopia for your waifu and sister isn't. Fuck you, mate. It's no more escapism than any other end. The only true facing of reality was staying in Alpha and even if you do that in some lines Kurisu will commit casual suicide.
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>>151601578
Wait ... Maybe he was good but remember nothing about his potential because his past self have no memory link because it is overwrite by the new memory
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>>151601608
Exactly. He needs the trauma of killing her in order to motivate himself to formulate Operation Skuld and all that business.
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>>151601617

this was the one i was looking for thanks
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>>151601644
Exactly?
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>>151601643
That's exactly what I meant. I made a mistake about it being Gamma though, Gamma's the evil Okabe.
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>>151601690
What you mean by evil ?
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>>151601312
I mean, I'd expect them to not showing much of the future stuff, with large percent of the story takes place in present time.
The fact that it got scenes of 2036 is quite a surprise to me.
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>>151601608
Am I being baited?
He already receives the MMS before hand. You're wrong.

I don't know how to more clearly explain this to you. Tell me why he needs to kill kurisu to receive the MMS and yet can recieve it before then.

Tell me why the true0 okabe cannot just send the MMS to the time on his worldline wherein he murdered Kurisu to the point before he traveled back with Suzuha to do it?
>travelling changed the world line
No. Suzuha both β and α prove that consequtive travels can be anchored to a worldline causally.
Further, when returning to the roof after killing her everyone present knew he had leapt meaning the event had still occured. You are wrong.
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>>151601274
everything on left side first then on right for best expirience
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>>151601756
Because you need to be deceived (Thanks Daru)
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>>151601756
>Am I being baited?
Are you baiting? Think back to the S;G True End for one moment. He only receives the MMS after he fails once, aka kills Kurisu once. 0kabe never receives the MMS and thus never embarks on the second attempt and completes Operation Skuld.

>>151601720
There's a Drama CD about how Okabe works for SERN as a Rounder in a world line.
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>>151601756
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>>151601847
Kind of dissapointed I never been able to read any spin-off
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Whose eyes are those eyes?
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>>151601919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Z3Z7qecQg

Here, start with this. It's not that long, but it's still an interesting listen/read.
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>>151601808
So it would be : Twin Automata > Promised Rinascimento > Vega and Altair > Milky Way Crossing?
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>>151601343
Knowing that the Mayuri end is still in the Beta world line, and knowing that WW3 is still inevitable in Beta, I'd call the Mayuri end pretty damn bad.

Same reason Luka ending is bad. We already know where Alpha ends up.
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>>151601362

Nice! Keep it up.
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>>151601959
So in theory he return to his 'Good' State ?
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>>151601967
You missed Mother Goose and Gehenna. But other than that, yes.
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>>151601967

If you are going for true end you don't need Automata. If you want everything then follow the list and don't forget Mother Goose or Gehenna
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>>151601994
Yes, it's implied he returns to whatever alpha world line he came from iirc.
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>>151601935

They sure as hell aren't god's anymore. Not with that new seal design in the PV.
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>>151601997
>>151602006

Well I wanted to make the first playthrough without any indication and see what I get.
I would like to avoid Kagari ending. I thought Twin Automata was shit but everyone here is telling me the opposite so I will see.
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>>151601813
Explain what you're saying.

While you we know that the second lot of Suzu and Mayuri are the Vega ones in S;G(VN) they aren't, in Zero (and they still remember what you have been doing).
Further you still recieve the MMS before that time.

>>151601847
How about you think back to the dialogue faggot, he recieves the MMS after the event and can only perceive it later on.
>it should 'already' be in that phone
>a message from 2025 okarin himself
>a movie mail
>your phone received it
>I certainly did [..] right after I met Kurisu
>but there was nothing in it. All there was was noise
>if you try now
Fucking kill yourself my man
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>>151602041
So let's think about it so he suck at RaiNet etc But nobody think there is a change in his state ?
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>>151602062
There is a PV?
Why haven't I seen it yet?
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>>151602079

Just go in blind and see where you go. I don't think any of the ending are bad but I think the weakest is probably Reclusive Mother Goose
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>>151601935
Is C;H anime as bad as everyone says?
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>>151601893
>smug image
>blow out for not remembering the game and looking like a retard
Sasuga KuriGohan
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>>151602142
It's worse than everyone says, don't watch it.
Read the VN.
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>>151602126

https://twitter.com/TehVict/status/813873194444718081

Because you're living in a delusion that the C;C adaptation will be good.

The difference between delusions and illusions is the number of people affected by them.
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I guess I'll start reading the VN then
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>>151602164
I already did 5 or so years ago, thanks.
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>>151602142
It was so bad, rushing its content isn't even the main problem of it.
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>>151602142

Please read the VN. We don't need to lose any more potential fans to that abomination.
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>>151602142
Yes.
>>151602126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV_AFrG--0
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>>151602081
They all been fooled by the death of Okabe since the start but he need to do 3000 time leaps between 2035 and 2011 but inside all this story Okabe needed to be deceived too cause him a tilt
He was deceived by founding himself alive in 2035 when he thought he would be dead since 2025
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>>151602081
I don't even know where to start. 0kabe already said this in his MMS, if he doesn't experience killing Kurisu once then the MMS can't be perceived. If he doesn't kill her he's not close enough to the 0kabe in Milky Way to perceive it. I don't see why you can't get something this simple.
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>>151602182
>they really changed the seals design
>mfw
Goddamnit I am so mad, why the fuck would they do that?
Just WHY?
Has Chiyomaru given a statement yet?
This fucker should watch out.
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>>151602142

I don't know anything about C;H, how good is it by itself or compared to S;G?
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Should I play C;H or S;G 0 first?
I really can't decide.
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>>151602258
>if he doesn't experience killing Kurisu once then the MMS can't be perceived
This is literally my entire point. Why is that the case in your casual model of time?
If there is no overlap or margin of error in active timelines then it should be immediately perceptable because it was still sent from the future of that timeline regardless of 'how far along it was'.
If there is only one active timeline and Okabe sends himself a mail why the FUCK would it have to be similar to his own timeline? That would inherently imply a differentiation between the two BEFORE it was sent. If not he would already be predestined to end up there if no D-mail was recieved and therefore should be able to percieve it at any point.
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>>151602339

S;X and C;X cater to different sorts of atmosphere. C;X in general is more tense and gruesome. The topics are often closer to psychological thrillers/horror but do use aspects of science and neuroscience.

>>151602387

C;H first for chronological consistency.
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>>151602437
>chronological consistency
You're not fooling anyone
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What is existence fellow chaotic heads?
Is Descartes right with his "I am able to think, therefore I exist as myself"-thing?
Even if my thoughts are imagined by someone else?
Whose eyes are those eyes?
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Somebody come to a theory about the fact that John Titor might be real ? Like in 2000
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>>151602339
Its first 3/4th are excellent. The feeling of paranoia and descend into madness it conveys is impeccable. The last part... I didn't like it too much.

S;G and C;H are different stories. I wouldn't really compare them. One is about overcoming one's self to finally do the right thing, the other is about what lengths would you go to save someone dear to you.
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>>151601993
Will do Leskinen. You were only trying to help humanity evolve to a state of global reading Stiener. You didn't want the entire fate of humanity to rest on an ungodly few who would control us from behind the scenes. You wanted everyone to hold the ultimate weapon and the ultimate shield. Both voiding the danger of time travel and allowing humanity to excell from its use in the most effective way possible.
Stigma is your master piece. From your decisions humanity may have flourished into a golden age, a non-linear utopia.
God bless God Emporer Leskinen and his prophet and faithful servant Linthalo.
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>>151602401
>your model

You're the one stubbornly trying to "disprove" the canon mechanics anon. It isn't just a fan theory you're railing against.
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>>151602401
The point though is he wants the mail to reach an Okabe that knows his pain. If he sends it to a pre-failed Okabe, then he wouldn't feel the same desperation and guilt that 0kabe feels. Killing Kurisu drives him to succeed regardless of what it takes, which is why he takes desperate measures post-MMS and lets Nakabachi stab him.
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>>151602266
>implying Chiyomaru wasn't the one who's behind it
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>>151602580
>the canon mechanics
Except I am very clearly using examples and logic from the character who dictate the canon mechanics.
You're just misinterpreting them.

If you cannot logically justify the issues it means one of two things:
a) you're right and the writers don't care to go into such detail with the internal logic and would rather focus on the story
b) you're wrong and the writers have explained them (i.e the quotes I am showing plus even more examples in 0)
While it's not unbelievable the writers wouldn't want to get bogged down in timetravel rules it's FAR more believable that you're just off in terms of comprehension.

>>151602678
Then why not send it at a later time. He knows when Okabe returns with Suzuha, further, that Okabe has his phone on him.
More importantly, while sending it to Okabe after killing Kurisu makes sense, it's the fact that he was unable to percieve it until such an event that is the point of contention in this discussion.
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>>151602774
>Then why not send it at a later time
Ah, I see what you mean now. I didn't think of it from that way and you're right, it does seem to be needless to send it that far in the past when he could have just sent it to the time after they failed once.
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>>151602774
No matter what you say you're still contradicting what was set in stone by the authors. Besides, you're the one misinterpreting the information available.
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>>151603093
Because Okabe might have lost his nerve if he'd gotten it later. Okabe needed to be in a specific frame of mind so that he would actually try again.
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>>151603111
>contradicting
You keep saying that but all I do is quote characters who have established the rules of time travel or make reference to events in the game. Unless you're an author I'd say I am simply repeating what they've set in stone.

In anycase, this line of dialogue might be killing the thread. I'll cool it on this for awhile but legit, the established rules concur with what I am saying. Please consider replaying one or both games if you think otherwise and remember that Suzuha is an unreliable narrator and that new worldlines are constantly finding new rules and caveats of timetravel, like alpha Kurisu's special D-mail.
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>>151603223
>this reading comprehension
Confirmed bait, please get a trip.
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>>151603223
Not my point. Why couldn't he send the MMS to the specific time where Okabe gets slapped and/or any time after he fails once? Why send it back all the way to that time before the whole thing started?
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>>151603238
No you just keep trying to force things to fit your bizarre interpretation of what happens in the story.

>>151603354
He received it as static at the beginning of the VN. That ensured that he'd disregard the message until Suzuha told him to look at it again after he'd killed Kurisu. That's why he sent it further back than right after he returned.
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>>151602691
I am not implying that. I am wanting to beat this motherfucker exactly because he changed it.
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>>151603496
>That ensured that he'd disregard the message
Yes, but WHY would he send it so far back? As the other anon said, he could have just sent it to the time after he killed Kurisu.
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>>151603576
Because if he just sent it to that moment he wouldn't have killed her yet before he received it. He had to ensure that his past self would read it after killing her, not before.
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>>151603576
Not him but to create a plot hook and make the reader more interested in the mystery.
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>>151603655
Reading. Comprehension. What I meant:
First trip back to past -> Fails -> Comes back -> Receives MMS -> Goes back again and succeeds in reaching S;G
He could have done this instead of sending the MMS before that.

>>151603667
This. I'm inclined to think it's a way of foreshadowing what happens in True End and pointing out it wasn't pulled out of thin air.
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>>151602062
>takumi27

That implies you have more. Post your best please.
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>>151603870
He has little control over the D-Mails once he's sent them. So to ensure that he doesn't open it at the wrong time, he makes it so that his past self disregards it until Suzu tells him to look at it. If he just sends it to that point in time, then Okabe won't have gone back the first time yet. Also, the D-Mail transmitter isn't precise enough to account for mere minutes and seconds, which is what would be required to pull that off anyway. I was always a matter of which hour you wanted it to go to.
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>>151604139
Also, there's no way in hell that he'd remember the precise second/minute that he arrived back after several non-linear decades of bullshit in 0.
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>>151560837
this, boring and childish as fuck
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>>151604257
And yet he knows that the news is on.
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>>151605231
Yeah, no shit the news will be on.
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>>151602182
The art detail isn't as bare as I thought it'd be, the dingy colour design which gives the impression that everything is being ominously backlit by a dim light is spot on, it actually retains the aesthetic of the VN. On the strength of visuals alone, we're looking at a better adaptation than C;H. My hope has been a little bit restored.
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>>151602527
>One is about overcoming one's self to finally do the right thing
I don't think that's what C;H is about at all. Takumi thought he was doing the wrong thing by stopping Norose, he just did it bc if he didn't Rimi would die, and he wanted her to live more than he wanted to do the right thing. That last chapter has Takumi accepting the fact that he's a fake who has no right to live, but then deciding that if that's the case, he might as well live his fake life as selfishly as possible. To him, being selfish meant saving Rimi, the girl who had manipulated him into loving her despite planning to kill him. Takumi and Rimi are both inherently evil characters, and C;H works because of this. I think the main reason a lot of C;H fans don't like S;G that much is because Okabe and Kurisu being sqeaky clean perfect beings who can do no wrong for most of the story feels too sickly sweet and lacking. At least, that's why I've come to dislike S;G.
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>>151606409
So the fans are fucking edgelords. Uh uh.
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>>151606409
>At least, that's why I've come to dislike S;G.
Surely not to a large degree. You are in this thread after all.
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>>151606409
God forbid the main characters are kind, noble and self-sacrificing instead of selfish, edgy cunts.
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>>151606537
Okabe is a really chill, likable and fairly realistic dude. Kurisu is much less realistic, since girls that good tend to not exist. Girls like Suzuha might, tho.
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>>151606537
>self sacrificing
Okabe is selfish as fuck. Everybody has to die sometime. He just freaked right the fuck out and tore time apart so bad he changed the course of humanity.
CERN and stratfor were incidental.
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>>151606537
Considering their pasts it's only natural for a Gigalomaniac to be what you call edgy.
Shogun is really the exception to the rule.
He is almost a saint with his clear, white mind.
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>>151606596
>Girls like Suzuha might, tho
Don't let me dream this impossible dream
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>>151606478
>wanting characters who are interestingly written and aren't perfect, infalliable beings is being edgy

>>151606516
Yeah, I still love it as a tightly written, creative time travel story. I just find it lacking and... kinda manipulative that Okabe and Kurisu are almost always presented as, as >>151606537 said, "kind, noble and self-sacrificing". C;H works to make you understand and empathise with Takumi and Rimi despite them being flawed and selfish, and it makes for an interesting, memorable story. S;G lazily cruises by without giving you any deep insight into the minds and pasts of Okabe and Kurisu, becuase it knows that just by not giving them any flaws or selfish traits, the audience will love them and empathise with them anyway, which was something I initially didn't think too much about and got behind, but after a few years and several rereads of the VN, I now find it very empty and unsatisfying.
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>>151606596
Kurisu's schtick is that she's an exemplary, if incredibly flawed, person. She's not really supposed to be a down to earth character.

>>151606819
>not giving them any flaws

>this meme again
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>>151606865
What does Kurisu does that is selfish?
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>>151606957
She doesn't want to give full credit to her dad, which ultimately got her ass killed.
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>>151607257
This. What a bitch.
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>>151607257
>>151607383
You have no right to call others a bitch, Nakabitchi
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>>151607257
Its funny almost. She's willing to go to such lengths for other people, even fucking kill herself, but can't give up her dumb idea to her, who may or may not have earned it a bit, own father.
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>>151607995
>>151607257
>would never have excelled if her dad hadn't bullied her into trying to engage him intellectually
>shit talks his life's work
>perfects his life's work
>still plays the victim card
Ungrateful bitch
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>>151608112
Well, now we know where Kurisu got her shitposting tendencies.
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I wonder how people would react if S;G ended on the Zero worldline and we got to see True ending only in Zero.
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>>151608898
>implying
I wonder how people would react if Zero ended on the Vega rescue mission wordline and we got to see the true ending only in Three
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>>151609003
I don't think there'll be Three, honestly. It's a nice open ending. There's no need to show what happens, it's fine as it is.

But maybe I'm underestimating the jew of Chiyomaru.
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>>151609064
>massive cash cow
>two VN sell like gangbuster even with the sequel half baked
>two two cour anime that go gangbuster
>popular not just on best island but internationally
>make tonnes in merch and what if teasers due to the time gimmick
>easily their peak in both popularity and profit
>loop hole hook left for a follow up VN in exactly the same way it was done for the first follow up VN
Yeah sure, no 3.
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>>151609183
>make tonnes in merch and what if teasers due to the time gimmick
This. Chiyo will continue to make more ambitious projects like C;C and O;9, but when they inevitably fail, he'll go and make his money back using S;G, bc the entire premise of S;G with the infinite possible world lines is infiniteky exploitable.
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>>151609982
I think A;C looks really promising (though multi-layered world idea reminds me of I/O).
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Haven't checked any SG news because it's been 5 years. What's with the influx of threads lately after so long? I didn't think anyone cared about this series since it aired.
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>>151611413
Read the thread
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>>151611413
Steins;Gate 0 got localized.
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>>151611413

Try not to live under a rock mate, S;G 0 has been localized and we're getting the anime adaptation.
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>>151579333
>moeka as lead singer
i love it
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>>151601756
>>151602081
The content of the video D-Mail changes because the Okabe that sent it changes depending on present circumstances.
Those Okabes who did not kill Kurisu do not have the determination to calculate the Steins' Gate world line value and send an important message. The message they send is junk data as a result.
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>yfw this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRDAXY3Rsv8 starts playing as the true ending theme
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>>151615086
What, don't you want to DRIFT THROUGH THE HEAVENS?
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>>151615433
Nah man, I just wanna /STEP ON THE GAS TONIGHT/
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>mfw I just rewatched the anime up to ep 22, continued with ep 23 BETA, did a 100% completeion of S;G 0 and returned to the rewatch with ep 23.

Feels good man.
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>>151617609
You'll have to rewatch 1-22, 23 BETA, SG0 1-23, 24 UPSILON, play Steins;Gate 2, watch 24 BETA, listen to a few drama CDs and watch True End when S;G2 comes out.
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>>151600863
Duh, because The gehenna's stigma route literally has you answering kurisu every single time. It's supposed to show that you shouldn't just trust everyone blindly.
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Reddit tier anime =)
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What was your first playthrough like?
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>>151618035
V&A->GS->PR->RMG->TA->MWC
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>>151618035
>mfw Gehenna's Stigma at first run

Gehenna's Stigma
Twin Automata
Recursive Mother Goose
The Promised Rinascimento
Vega and Altair
Milky-way Crossing
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>>151618035
GS->VA->PR->RMG->TA

doing Vega and Altair after gehenna's stigma was a mistake man, and doing maho's route last as well. TA to the true ending doesn't exactly build up well.
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>>151618191
Only proper way imo. Game's a fucking mess anyways.
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>>151618191
same
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>>151618786
I don't even remember the CG this face is from.
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>>151618035
Vega & Altair
Gehenna's Stigma
Twin Automata
Recursive Mother Goose
Promised Rinascimento
Milky-way Crossing

Probably the worst way to do it.
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>>151619298
- Gehenna
-Vega and Altair
I already watched these two.

Where do I download the game?
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>>151620280
Torrent it? Alternatively http://erogegames.com/steins;gate-0-a-826/ Slow as fuck though.
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>>151620388
Also you need an english patch.
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>>151618902
at the beginning when they show amadeus maho
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>>151620594
I know.
I don't have time though. Good night, anon-tacci.
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>>151620594
Preinstalled on that link.
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>>151610324
Given how little we know about A;C and its terrible design sense, it's hard for me to be hype for it at the moment. It's especially hard coming off the back of O;9, which had some of the best design sense I've ever seen.
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