who cares? the other thread will sage soon and then this thread will be the new one
stop being such a baby
The suffering was funny at first, but now is just sad.
C'mon Oda cut him some slack
Oh you're all so gonna cry rereading those chapters soon after the real story behind Pudding and foresight perk of her fruit comes out
Sanji now has the shittiest life next to Robin
Hell it might even be worse than Robin
Nami will kiss Sanji and give him the boost he need
She knew from the start that Sanji was gonna choose his nakama instead of her.
Sure Sanji will die
Pudding will deliver her promises and end his misery
post yfw Sanji will kick the face of Pudding in with the rage of a thousand hot suns in the middle of the ceremony
Fuck no. He's in a bad spot. No one, fucking NO ONE can beat Brook's past. 50 fucking years on your own with nothing but the memories of your dead friends around you. Fuck you.
Well if that conversation ever happened he'd say to Pudding those words. But she knew that it would happen, her heart broke and she decided to move on and help set Sanji and his nakama free, while not getting killed by Mom herself. That's basically it.
Am i the only one here feels that the strawhat crew attitude getting weirder? and this chapter is so messy that it is unlike one piece anymore?
1. Luffy get caught so many time with his crews life is in danger...but he never acted this way..he always trust them
2. Sanji been depressed and cry over pudding? what!? what did pudding did that make him like this?
3. Brook considering the probability of sanji leaving the crew? since when they have so little faith on their own crewmates? and Sanji even leave a msg previously telling them he will come back once he solve his family affair
im re-reading one piece from chapter 1 and this recent chapter totally toss out strawhat crew usual attitude....*really still hoping pudding have some kind of power to manipulate sanji and luffy feeling and cause them to act like this..
Reminder that Jimbei didn't lose anything
>since when they have so little faith on their own crewmates?
Brook barely know most of them. He was with them for like 2 weeks, then was doing rock concerts for 2 years, and it's been like 3 weeks since the Time-Skip started.
Why can't he just beat pudding to death?
Fuck fucking women, there should be no problem in beating the shit out of a cunt who hurt you.
You can bet if some male tricked sanji like that he'd break his jaw.
You're way too close minded.
Sanji isn't just crying over pudding. He's crying over the whole situation. Being forced into a wedding, beating up his friends, and then finding out that even the one ray of hope he had left that at least his bride was cute and pretty was a lie too.
Actually your whole post is written and worded like you should be posting on arlongpark. Please go there.
>year of the cuck
more like year of the brook look at this motherfucker
Gets caught in Alabasta, gets caught in Impel Down, gets caught in Punk Hazard, gets technically caught in Dressrosa, gets caught in Totland. And thats just from the top of my head. This has becomes so fucking common that it should have stopped years ago.
Sanji will change his stance on women after this, right? He might not start kicking them but he'll definitely stop falling for every woman he sees. Pudding even made fun of him for being easily manipulated by her tears.
>Pudding's fruit is just a shit-tier version of Sugar's
1. Don't know what you're talking about. Luff yew trusted Santiago and was going to sit and wait for him to come back but Mama got in the way. Now that he knows Pudding's treachery he's trying to save his friend from a knife in the back.
2. Sanjay had just resigned himself to a life of hell with his family and Pudding was going to be the one good thing out the mess. Sanjay falls in love easily but falls out of it hard.
3. Brook knows the crappy deal Sanjay has been dealt and knows he might choose to sacrifice himself. Luff yew is the only one who is stubborn enough to not accept that. It's got nothing to do with his faith in him.
It's not always slapstick and running gags though
Luffy tends to lose at least one fight against an arc's villain before coming back and kicking their ass. Crocodile was a special case which he lost twice. And Magellan was another one because Luffy could not beat him, but beating him wasn't his objective.
So, I'm confused. Sanji didn't want to get married anyway.
Isn't Pudding being an insufferable sadistic ass good for him? Juat dump the bitch and run with your friends.
>year of Sanji
>Last panel we see of him he's crying
>Juat dump the bitch and run with your friends
But that's the thing, he couldn't even if he wanted to. Don't forget about Zeff and his hands.
It's not like he can fuck off together with his family either, they'd just think he's lying to avoid getting married.
Holy fuck. I'm hyped for Brook being able to wound Big Mom or at least ruse her and this sudden power creep no one expected. Long live Soul King. Based skellington
I can't help but believe that Pudding being a sadistic bitch is just that Oda wrote himself into a wall. He doesn't know how to keep both Yonkos strong and Sanji in the crew without regrets.
Pushing 5 years. Prior to October people made new threads sure, but it was always after bump. This conversation happens in every thread nowadays. We have shitposting, newer/early thread cancer and now metashitposting on top of that. It's gotten so bad, I don't understand why you guys make early threads just to say you can.
>Prior to October people made new threads sure, but it was always after bump
What? On chapter release days there always have been faggots who made multiple threads even though 1 was already up and running. It has been like this for years now
>Oda wrote himself into a wall.
Or you can read at a decent pace and realize the hints scattered during the arc
Sugar's and Pudding's fruits are actually quite different.
The only thing they have in common is that they impact memories.
Sugar makes everyone forget every memory they had about the target.
Pudding alters memories of the target itself, it's a way more refined method.
this would be a good time for Toei to add a fight scene for this, GOD DAMN DONT FUCK THIS UP TOE-AY!!!
>It is not me who can't read and pick up hints while reading, no the autor has written himself into a corner haha
>Pudding devil fruit revealed
>Brook predates to fight Mama
>Jimbe frees Luffy and Nami
>brook calling BM young
I was confused until I realized, that Brook was a middleaged man on the grand line, when Roger was still a fucking rookie. How fucking old is this guy?!
I always liked how Oda makes weird looking characters and manages to still make them look threatening and menacing. Mama's cloud and sun specifically in that page
>h-he wrote himself into a wall
No, Oda planned this from the start. Pudding being evil challenges all of Sanji's beliefs in women. So far every time he came across a pretty girl being evil (Nami, Robin, Viola) it was just an act and they needed to be saved. This time it's the opposite, an evil bitch was pretending to be cute and innocent and took advantage of his weakness for women to manipulate him into falling for her and leaving his crew behind. It's time for Sanji to get some character development and stop blindly trusting every fucking woman he sees.
let's change that for 10k more years shall we?
>He doesn't read HxH
We'd kill for a schedule like that.
You mean we have to wait a year.
It's shit, there might have been something interesting early on but it quickly just devolves into shit, and more shit, and somehow it's leading towards more shit, assuming it's ever off break.
was it really necessary for big mom to break out the big guns on a skeleton?
thats what I find most hilarious about this chapter.
Most of Roger's generation are or would be in their 70s.
>controlled a forest full of enemies with a piece of paper
>helped against Cracker
>zapped a few fodders from the enraged army
>slapped Sanji for being a bitch
It's more than something.
90 after the time skip, but Kureha is 140 or something, giants can live at least 300 years I think, some df's could extend life, the sea kings and that fucking elephant are apparently at least 800 years old or so at a guess since they know some things about the void century.
As Big Mom has some control of people's remaining years and seems to eat food that contain souls its unclear how long she's alive, plus having so many fucking children, human gestation time would put her at least as old as Brook one would assume, but who the fuck know.
Ok, lets say Luffy would have been smart enough to figure out Crackers weakness. Then he still would not have any way to make his biscuits wet. Now tell me again how unimportant Nami was.
>What idiot takes death into consideration when making a plan?
Pedro apparently. You know, the guy you were just with before and whom told you everything about his plan.
ODA = HACK
I'm not sure how to feel about the idea of Sanji kicking Pudding. I'm tired of his whiteknighting but it's such a core part of his character that getting rid of it would feel more like character assassination than anything. I don't think Oda would go that far.
>mfw Jinbe wont fit in with the SHs shitters BTFO
>tfw sanji goes full NUCLEAR during the ceremony
Doesnt this whole "sabotage the wedding" thing seem out of character for big mom though?
To her, Pudding is just one of the many daughters that she can pop out at any time. Isnt big mom's whole deal building alliances through marriage? Why step on that? She above everyone was looking forward to the cake.
This does seem a little weird. You'd think that if she had a history of setting up marriages and murdering the fuck out of the grooms and their family's, the Vinsmoke's would have been on guard a little more.
Reiju wanted to talk to Pudding, "Hey, my brother has had a super shitty life, and my family only ever seems to make it worse. I hope that you're kind to him, since he really seems to like you."
Pudding has memory powers and is an evil monster inside, "Yeah no. I fucking hate that cunt of a brother, and fuck your family too, for trying to pawn off a failure like him on me while pretending he's a prince. I'm gonna vent on you for awhile and then use my powers to make you forget. Win-win."
She won't even blink when Brook nullifies her devil fruit, Yonko's aren't memes like Enel
>Pudding wouldn't let her fans down
She really is the best girl.
her ability is the most nasty kind. i hope no major plot points will revolve around her ability later on. i hate it when characters forget stuff.
also sanji got BTFO'd so hard he might as well stop existing from here on out.
>To her, Pudding is just one of the many daughters
No, Pudding is one of BMs favourite daughters
also the fact that BM keeps her close to her in her throne room also implies that Pudding is special to her
who knows, maybe BM does not want to let go of Pudding because of her 3rd eyes which makes her a "freak"
Why did Oda make Sanji such a fucking beta. At least he knows now that women are backstabbing sluts.
what surprises me is that ppl really would accept brook beating bm lmaoo. that alone should tell you how braindead op fans are cuz lazy ass oda could literally serve a platter of shit and you retards would love it.
this chapter was subpar at best nothing special happend really just some shit everyone already predicted 9y ago
I miss when mugiwara were actually human and not one dimensional character.
hi, cocksuckfag I already wondered where you have been. Threads did not feel the same without your shitposting desu. Oh but I also want to inform you that there are no (you)s anymore on 4chan to collect. :(
I'm hoping Oda uses the unexpected anticlimax where big Mom tries to swipe his years and just dies. He stands there and doesn't really know what to do while all of her subordinates flip shit and run away.
>chopper and carrot finding a way to their nakama
>jinbei saving luffy and namy
>sanjy now knows mama's plans
>pedro and brook are still fucked
who's gonna save them? even if pedro beats tamago, i'm sure smoothie will fuck him up
Nobody knows how popular it is apparently. Never seen this much autism about OP ships outside of these threads. Only RobinxZoro crackship that doesnt make sense. It's not happening, shitposter.
>Oda continues to make Sanji suffer in 2017
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
Doesn't matter. The dimension was still open and working while the user was passed out, which implies that mirror world is an actual place and Brulee only has the power to get there and back.
ODA WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HURTING SANJI THIS ISNT COOL
So, who's going to get their memories fucked with next?
There Zoro and Nami ones. In terms of opposites attract kinds of meshes, the lost idiot and the genius navigator make for a hilarious combination.
I suppose if Oda actually made them have sex they'd somehow end up at Raftel.
What if Lola was actually as evil as other Mom's children and Pudding turned her into nice person to get rid of her? That could answer the question why Pudding thought of Lola recently, as it was all part of her master plan.
>Chopper and Carrot pull Brook into the world of mirrors before Big Mom takes him out, Brook already copies the Poneglyph on a piece of paper. Pedro is saved by them too.
>High alert on castle after Luffy and Brook's escape but Mom decides to continue the wedding with heightened security
>Sanji tries to explain to the Vinsmokes about the plan
>No one believes him, more Sanji abuse etc.
>Wedding happens, Sanji confronts Pudding in the middle of the vows, Big Mom pulls trigger for Vinsmoke massacre after everyone's trapped inside
>Jinbe/Luffy/Nami crash the wedding party after fighting off security
>Reiju takes the bullet for Sanji after he refuses to kick Pudding even after she points the gun at him
>Nami incapacitates Pudding
>Sanji kicks Big Mom in order to have everyone escape, "First time I kicked a girl blah blah"
>Vinsmokes get offed one by one but they redeem themselves by acting as shields so the SH can escape
>SH gets the fuck off the island
>Jinbei dies on the boat back because Mom took so many years off his life that he only basically had a day to live
>Mom rage decides to attack Luffy by sending her grand fleet. They'll chase them all the way to Wano
>Next arc is Kaido vs. Luffy vs. Big Mom
Reiju probably found something they were planning to hit the Vinsmokes with so Pudding shot her, then she just felt like being a sadist and toying with her, insert evil antagonist laugh.
If the color spreads are anything to go by, no. Remember Usopp had that look too and was fine afterward. This is showing how outclassed and overall the amount of desperation Luffy is undergoing.
>Look at these porn doujins written by a few people!
Sanji and Zoro is much more popular. Go to reddit if you want to talk about your ships that'll never happen.
Because the act has to be perfect to deceive BM who has her homies everywhere. She knew Sanji was there and indirectly told him to get blood on the cake at the wedding to cause chaos
I went through the entire manga last couple of days and made a compilation of all panels that are remotely lewd or show body parts that are unusually well drawn for Oda. In some panels you'd be even able to see nipples except Oda didn't really draw them.
i wonder how serious oda takes this ability.
because it's not the forgetting part that is scary, she can just make up any other memories she wants to, essentially making this a brainwashing power.
You mean after seeing Jinbei's big broad body
and his two cocks?
It's literally the kage kage no mi except in this case the owner of the soul doesnt die when exposed to sunlight and big mom has a lot more versatility in where to put the souls. And the homies are smarter.
Regarding Sanji's mask, has it been mentioned before?
Him stripped the "mask" and revealed his true bruised face feels came out of nowhere.
Er, nevermind. So, it was basically Reiju trying to put medication on his face after that fight with his family before.
Reiju is the only girl who truly cares about Sanji.
I bet a portion of Sanji's memories are already missing at the moment. It's why he's being so weird. However, after seeing what he just saw, Mr. Prince will make an appearance at the wedding ceremony tomorrow.
Pudding will go to shoot Sanji's head but it will be coated in haki that is stronger than Vinsmokes armor. The candy jacket bullets will be useless and Pudding will make a real Enel face. Cue strong comeback.
Can't make an argument, he he resorts to spamming green text to trying to act like he fits in.
I mean, you seem really obsessed with OP. You were probably in that thread where someone scanned something like 10 Sanji x Nami doujin and maybe 1 of them was porn.
I don't think it's odd at all.
1. Luffy knew Sanji would come back and when he realized Sanji had been set-up he knew he had to save him. Also they are on the new world the threats are higher. It's like with Lucci, Luffy trusted his crew, but he knew Lucci would kill them if he didn't held him off.
2.Sanji has been played like a damn fiddle, and got betrayed by someone he had come to believed was his only hope for some happiness after having turned away from everything he loved. (It can also be due to him being forced to hurt his Friends just so they would get killed by a mess he probably feels guilty about).
3. Brook was unsure of Sanji's return since Zou, now we know why. He believes Sanji Is so good that Mama would play him in some way and he would be willing to sacrifice himself. Brook knew his crew mate so much he got the nail in the head with exactly what was going on. It's not that he has little faith, it's that he's sure Sanji would sacrifice himself
So seeing Brooke's GOAT moment this chapter made me remember an age old question I could never answer about this series: Why exactly are Luffy's crewmates so intent on him becoming the pirate king?
What I mean is, every single one of Luffy's crewmates joined because they thought he would help them with their own personal goal. The ones that didn't have some goal joined because they liked Luffy as a person. But that still doesn't explain why they're so intent on Luffy becoming pirate king.
We can't see his other foot, but if it's not that then he lost some life.
There was no winning on Mama's board, and he has at least 3 limbs on him. Not to mention a shitload of honor that'll hopefully make him join the SHs officially already.
Memories of reading them. Just the Shiawase punch series has 6 parts and it is entirely ZoroxNami, at least two of Orange pie doujins are ZoroxNami, and there are at least four doujins by Kurosomething artist that does lots of LuffyxHancock doujins. Of NamixSanji I can think of one doujin where she sort of cheats on Zoro with Sanji because Zoro is too uncaring in bed, one more where it's just two of them and story is as vanilla as it can be and one recent using the art from Film Z.
The thing is, we never saw someone else besides Pudding with a 3rd eye before in the whole manga. I know not everything has to be foreshadowed but you think Oda would have given us a hint to this after introducing Pudding almost 200 chapters ago
God? Is that you?
Have I died and gone to heaven?
Just started reading manga again after sorta falling off in the middle of Dressrosa. Man, it's really good now. I don't remember One Piece being so interconnected before. Arcs in Crocodile saga felt much more self-contained, with some threads connecting them here nad there. Now it feels much more grand and thought out.
Tell me, what was the reaction on Mink leaders revealing that they knew about ninja dude? Reading all those chapters in one go i didn't even consider the fact that they are concealing this dude from Jack. That reveal blew me away, what a powerful moment. I wonder if people predicted that when they had to wait weeks between chapters.
>arc starts off with crew on a new island mesmerised by its wonders, get separated, fighting a few fodder and then immediately get into running around non-stop
>Oda's editors slap his shit and remind him nobody liked the separated crew members running around for half the arc like in Dressrosa
>Oda shifts the story and brings it into main gear after watching the GoT
>Oda's editors remind him that Sanji needs some love because female fans wet their pantsu over him
>Oda thinks big and decides to turn Sanji into a pathetic cuck that gets shat on the entire time
Luffy is charasmatic as fuck.
Even a blind man fell in love with him.
Oda draws no shadows or reflection of light. Not really hot.
nice headcannon but most of it wont happen. jinbe didnt lose any years, he pussied out. and i seriously doubt the vinsmokes would get taken out without a fight. have you forgotten about ichiji? people are sleeping on the monster. numerous times throughout the arc he was the only person to see luffy as a serious threat.
>believing the "editors have power over Oda"-meme
You gotta hand it to Oda for making an emperor just as terrifying as he hyped them up to be. Doflamingo wasn't a letdown either, but of course if you're going up against an emperor, you have to up the stakes.
I'm so confused. What was the point of telling everything to Reiju, if she's going to delete her memory anyways? Was it merely to exposition everything to the reader and Sanji? Why delete Reiju's memory and not Luffy/Nami's? is it because they're locked up? Is Pudding an idiot or just pretending to be?
Come on, Oda, step it up. And don't make Pudding a one-note villain. Add some dimensions. After this chapter the double ruse theory has become less likely. I'm sure, at the end, Pudding will still have a moment of admiration for Sanji and hey even fall in love for real but at that point Sanji would no longer have any interest in her.
So Pudding decides to reveal her whole plan to the sister for no reason, then erase her memory, just so Sanji can accidentally overhear the plot because Oda no longer care about writing a good story.
Seriously Chopper and the Mink could have overheard this anywhere and it would have made the plot so much better.
This is everything I ever asked for and I didn't even know it.
>those Nami feet
Sanji will trick her into removing his memories of Zeff's teachings, removing his limiters and letting loose a raging, unrestrained berserker of a cook who will BTFO her and his family.
>What was the point of telling everything to Reiju, if she's going to delete her memory anyways?
1. She's being supervillain arrogant right now and is simply that sadistic.
2. She's faking the whole thing because she knows Sanji is listening.
Wait, is that one panel with Nami getting the tattoo really this tame in the manga? Why did the Anime have it looking like this?
>arc suddenly turns into an absolute mindfuck after Pudding cuts and pastes memories from everyone in the wedding onto each other, with everyone doubting each other as they suddenly have memories of being both friends and enemies
I want this.
We've only seen it as a support, to use souls this way and that, which is strong enough on it's own.
Whether or not she can use it as a physical power or some kind of crazy fighting ability has yet to be seen, but she also has the strength of King Kong and is fucking huge.
She might even be able to store souls in her from all the stolen life she nabs, since Moria could do that with Shadows, and make quick little minions and weaponize an entire room or area she's in.
One Piece has the most inconstant tagging on pixiv.
Luffy Nami has like 1.1k entries on Pixiv.
Sanji Nami has over 2k.
IchiRuki has like 5k+
Madoka x Homura and Kyouko x Sayaka each about have 15k entries each on pixiv.
Because your picture is from a recent flashback, here's how it looked originally.
He'll use his spooky powers to scare everyone away. Motherfucking hard counter to Mama's DF, standing his ground.
It's incredibly difficult to backstab yonkou, Ace tried to murder WB in his sleep and got his teeth kicked in. Squardo only managed it because WB was already very sick, he was basically just racing to die to get Ace out. Big Mom does not appear to be anywhere near that condition, and with her powers she can literally have furniture as spies I'm guessing.
anon, some other anon posted a pic from the chapter where the townsfolk are calling jinbe "blight of the sea". it should be a couple of posts up. but besides that, i want to see brook take over BMs poseidon and zeus!
>some other anon posted a pic from the chapter where the townsfolk are calling jinbe "blight of the sea".
I know...But maybe Big Mom lied about it? I'll have to see the flashback.
When was the last time Oda drew a regular sized main villain? The page where Mom looks down on Brooke shows how massive she is even compared to Brooke who is already tall as fuck. Even Doflamingo had to be megatall for no reason (yeah I get it he uses legs to fight, but Sanji isn't a megazord either)