Chapter is out.
Are the Ackermen and the East Sea clan part of the Eldians?
Read the chapter and I'm sure of these things now.
>Historia IS from King Fritz lineage.
>Armin knows it, knows about Dina and knows about what Eren wants to hide.
>Either Eren or Armin will start plans to murder Historia.
Betting on the later.
Eren, you fucking...
- Armin, next chapter (probably)
>>Armin knows it, knows about Dina and knows about what Eren wants to hide.
Maybe future Armin told Eren to send memories to the past in order to protect himself and Mikasa.
Maybe everything that has happened so far part of his plan to take over the Coordinate power and rule the world as the EMA triumvirate.
Armin is playing 4D Chess across multiple timelines.
>Mikasa and Armin, if you want to save them all... fulfill your mission
>Mikasa? Armin? Who are you talking about?
>Huh? I don't know. Who is the owner of this memory?
I'm telling you fucks, "from you, 2000 years from now" is still important, this shit will still get time travel
>Armin plots Historia's murder
I think it's more like he'd tell Levi or Hanji what's going on and Eren would get mad at him for telling.
What would he have to be pissed about if he didn't know?
>mfw this chapter marks the official start of mutinyb owl
>mfw not even an emafag yet i'm nervous
No but seriously though, why would the Owl mention Mikasa and Armin? This is the most mind-blowing thing in recent chapters. He couldn't have known them, hell they might actually not even have been born yet. Are Shifter memories time-travelling?
>implying there is anything wrong with tumblr
Reminder that Ymir was raped many times by Marley officers
Trying to figure out what it's going to take for me to pick this up again but backstory chapters were fucking awful. Armin becoming a titan was underwhelming too. /a/ has this series gone to shit?
>tfw ywn ever dominate then violate Ymir's body by impregnating her with your man seed
Well honestly i only visit these threads when a new chapter comes out so i don't partake in the shipping/character hating autism that goes on here, so it doesn't affect me one bit.
>What are your complaints about the more recent chapters?
The writing, the pacing, the reveals, it manages to be both asspullery and underwhelming. Don't mistake info dump with answers we craved with good writing or narrative cohesion.
I don't know why everyone thinks they'd try to feed Historia to Eren when they've got Zeke on the island. More likely they're just going to have Historia follow Eren around whenever he needs to command Titans until they can lay a trap and let Eren eat Zeke.
I'm still salty about Armin not dying even though I understand why Isayama needed to give the CT to the Survey Corps. I still think he could've had both Erwin and Armin die, avoid the serumbowl altogether and give it to Sasha. Would've been better to see Eren and Mikasa having to deal with their biggest loss yet.
I'm enjpying the reveals personally: it's satisfying to see everything fall into place and have some theories confirmed and the world expanded without feeling like the story has nothing left to offer.
Looking forward to see how things wrap up desu.
Thinking about it more, Isayama likes bloating up the story with unnecessary turn of events creating badly paced non-tension, then wrapping it up in the most underwhelming and unsatisfying way. I only stay out of curiosity for the answers these days, rather than enjoyment of the story.
Why would they go to the trouble of traveling all the way to Marley if they have a Fritz right there on their reach just for the taking?
"They're friends" it's not a valid argument.
>Wow, so Ymir was literally random nobody begger all along despite all the foreshadowings? Bravo Isayama, this is another lackluster reveal we all wanted.
Historia seemed to read something into it.
I hope you burn in hell.
This, so many times this. There are clearly layers hidden behind this. I hope we get further analysis of the letter in the next three chapter. No way Hisu would call her husbandotowaifu dumb.
Also this probably. She's just happy that the letter confirmed Ymir is alive so she's joking around.
Though you could just as well interpret as her knowing the Ymir is dead. 50/50. There was also a lot of focus on Historia this chapter. The court scene keeps cutting to her, even though she doesn't say anything.
Either way, she is cryeing in this panel, so even if by the 0.1% chance she is dead, it still confirms Yumikurry canons, so that's that. End of discussions on that. YH has ascended to the heavenly confimed cano-
Nah, I think those are the eyes of someone who's about to do something extreme.
No, she was just thinking of Freida's descent into madness here because of the coordinate power. Her and Eren are essentially worried over the same thing, except Historia doesn't know the drastic conclusion Eren has.
Maybe if you did a reality check and went outside you'd notice that African-American boys mature super quickly nowadays. They are bigger at the age of 11 than the average whitey male posting in /snk/ threads.
Wait a second... if she's just some random beggar then why did that one titan clearly recognize her as the mythical Ymir-sama, huh?
She must look just like her. What if Ymir is actually the old Ymir reborn? We must consider this possibilities.
I firmly believe that she is still alive and the key to everything!
So what is their next course of action? is the next step to start training Armin's Titan? What are they going to do about the land between Maria and Rose? Or are Zeke and Reiner going to try and rescue Annie?
>Season 2 of anime begins
>IM SO HYPE THIS IS GONNA BE ANIME OF THE YEA----
>it's 50 episodes of Eren and Historia talking
>Production IG isn't helping anymore so animation will be shit
Nah, the pacing of the Uprising arc will at least be much better than what we got in the manga, since this time there's enough stuff happening that they won't need to stretch out the episodes like they did in season 1.
I mean, it's not like Isayama hasn't pulled that trick before (matter of fact he does it all the fucking time): whatever little piece of info you learn is almost never the whole story.
Historia is a Fritz as well. Obviously she'll have to turn into a mindless titan they'll carry around or be eaten by Eren. They don't even know where Sieg is in the first place.
That seems unlikely given that they just got out from under the thumb of an oppressive noble family that could manipulate memories and turn everyone in to loyal slaves. The military's primary concern is going to be dealing with the hostile foreign forces and the 2-5 Titan shifters who are trying to steal the Original Titan. They should be planning how they can go on the offensive, because right now they're basically at the mercy of the next time Reiner knocks down a wall, Zeke turns a village in to Titans, or a Bob zeppelin shows up and starts dropping bombs.
>if i'm being honest i'm disappointed our ymir isn't ymir fritz/royalty... she's just an ordinary person....
There may be more to her than she lets on in the letter. She makes it a point to say that Reiner is watching her and even Hange asks if there is a hidden message when that panel is shown. We know she knows a language that Reiner doesn’t and that that language is just a mirrored version of the wall language. She could have easily put a hidden message in.
It’s been said that Ymir herself (in the guidebook so we know it’s her and not Fritz) holds a key to the story. I refuse to believe that all Ymir has in relation to the story is what we got in that letter.
Seriously, that last line is very telling.
“I can’t marry you yet.”
To your question, i do believe that there may be a hidden message. When Hange asks if there is one and Historia reads through we get a panel showing Reiner watching Ymir as she writes. We know that Ymir can read a language that Reiner can’t. We also know this language is essentially just a mirrored version of the wall language. She could have easily snuck a message in without Reiner realizing it.
Since the public still thinks EM are locked up, Historia could secretly send them and the rest of the SC out on a secret mission depending on whatever the hidden message is if there is one.
I'm worried too but Eren is obviously not okay with it which is why he's keeping quiet. But that focus on him implies the truth will come out eventually, but Sieg is his brother and a Fritz. And that's not for nothing either.
Because it's the easiest way and Historia isn't that important, and they don't give much shit about killing allies. Levi was pretty okay with letting Eren be eaten by someone else. Eren may be against it but he isn't in command.
Everything will be pointless anyway if they don't work fast and "sacrifice things in order to reach a goal".
Though no, I don't think they all will agree to it, happens the truth is leaked. Read Armin putting the pieces together and telling everyone like he did before.
>kaylarx asked:I know I keep asking questions but I like talking to you. How do you think Ymir would come back? Assuming she's alive
I’m not entirely sure.
Honestly, the only real way I see the story progressing at this point, at least in regards to the current conflict, is Historia sending the remaining SC out on a secret mission (because according to Hange the public doesn’t know that Eren was released). If Ymir’s letter does in fact have a secret message which I firmly believe it does, it could be where she is being held or some other bit of info that spurs Historia to get some kind of mission going.
This would also be the perfect opportunity to bring Annie back (perhaps Historia could help Eren get Annie out of the crystal using the coordinate) nad she could be persuaded to help them find the port Marlay uses.
This is all just speculation, though I’m more than confident that Ymir is still alive given we’ve gotten her letter and still no confirmation on her fate has been given.
I just don't think it's mere coincidence that Sieg is a Fritz too. Eren is probably going to end up having to hold hands with big brother instead. Because a reiss gets controlled by the FK.
Reminder that if Eren doesn't devour Historia, Armin and Mikasa will suffer a lot.
That was after his son ratted him out. Before that his plan was for Zeke to become a Marley warrior, get the coordinate and kill all Marleys, not knowing he would just get controlled by the first King and go crazy.
It doesn't make the coup pointless, but it does delegitimize the military government. But getting a fully functioning coordinate is kind of against what they want, since that shit was what fucked them up for the last 100 years to begin with. Not to mention there is no guarantee eating Historia would give Eren the control he needs to use the coordinate, or even if he needs to eat her, given that he gained hardening from a vial that said "armor" or something. He might just need to lick up some of her spinal fluid. There are so many unknowns involved that it's useless for them to consider sacrificing people in a plot that might not work or may backfire, when they've got several very real threats knocking on their door already.
Well there's a lot of shit that's going wrong anyways.
Their whole war against the titans has been revealed as a war against themselves, and that humanity indeed wants to kill all the titans and has almost done so before.
Wouldn't surprise me if they just went with it because hey it couldn't get much worse.
Historia will soon be kill. Just like Ymir.
The Eldians will devour her while the Marleyans devour Ymir.
It's kinda stupid. Seriously, everyone know that memories can come to Eren every second and still they think that nothing serious happened? "Muh, this age". Damn, a lot of people in their reality become soldiers at the age of 15. Both EM took their punishment like soldiers.
Jaeger probably hides important information and Hanji try to get away with it? Nah, it's probably just teenagers things, nothing serious. And both Pixis and Zackley are okay with what happened. So stupid.
You are the one that thinks she is retarded.
She noticed Eren was hiding something but it wasn't the moment to inquire him so she went "lol retard teenagers right?"
Even Zackley noticed.
Well I'm retarded for not noticing Hange did notice Eren was hiding something.
Still think it's something a mother would say. "He just wants to look cool", what's up with that?
>Even Zackley noticed.
He did not.
I Believe That Ymir Is Alive
We’ve gotten her letter, we’ve supposedly gotten her backstory, yet we still have no confirmation at all on what her fate is.
We’ve danced around this topic for 4 years now and still, even when we get what some seem to think is her final words, we still are not shown that she actually died, or even what happened to her or where she is.
While things seem to be pointing to her having been killed, keep in mind:
Jean was shown to have been shot in the head, next chapter it’s revealed he was saved by Armin.
Erwin was going to be executed, that was drawn out over multiple chapters till he was saved at the last second.
Historia was going to inject herself, this was dragged on for a few chapters and it was even made to look like she did in fact inject herself. But no, it was a trick by Isayama and Historia made it out just fine.
Now we’re at Ymir, who has been said to hold a key to the story (Ymir herself as this was said in her part of the guidebook). She has been gone for years and we still do not know her fate despite there being numerous occasions were it could have been dropped, her letter being the prime one. Yet no confirmation is given and her fate is left up in the air. Again. There is no reason at all at this point for Isayama to keep her fate a secret if she truly is dead. So why would he continue to do so?
On top of that, Hange asks if there is a hidden message in the letter. Historia is unsure, but we see an interesting panel where Reiner is the one being made to watch Ymir while she writes. We know that Ymir can read, and possibly write, a language that Reiner can’t understand. We also know that this language is simply a mirrored version of the wall language. Ymir could have easily snuck a hidden message in that Reiner would not have noticed.
Until a body is actually shown I firmly believe that Ymir is still alive somewhere.
The night owl and Eren are the same person from a different time.
>Still think it's something a mother would say. "He just wants to look cool", what's up with that?
You are aware she's very much breathing onto Eren's neck, aren't you? She knows he is not telling everything, she doesn't fully trust him.
Biggest question after this chapter, Zeke should know that Eren has no control over other mindless Titans
If he knows that, why hasn't he gone back to Marley to bring in the troops? The Eldian's don't have a prayer against a Mare army if Eren has no control over the Wall Titans
>You are aware she's very much breathing onto Eren's neck, aren't you?
But she's in some way protecting him, don't you think? by noticing Eren is hiding something, yet deciding not to reveal that in front of everybody. Also, if she were to be more rough with him she could've just said he's a damn idiot, like she did with Sannes.
They're all fully aware of what the coordinate does to a person as far as making the go nuts. The interesting bit we got from this chapter is that memories of the future can impact the present, so the whole "First King's Will" bit might have less to do with atoning for the past and more to do with whoever holds the coordinate basically losing their free will because they know how the future turns out. If anything, that's why the coordinate went to someone who can't fully utilize it, because if you're a royal you can't act independently of what you know will happen. Well, that or you realize you're being fed false memories (depending on if future memories can prevent that future from happening) and you can't believe anything you think is going to happen, but it's a living nightmare of shit that happens just as you saw it and shit that doesn't happen and everything turned out different.
Oh come the fuck on, Grisha's past was something that should've been analized carefully but they revealed all of it, not holding anything. These people have absolutely nothing to lose, and informatino regarding the coordinate is precious to them, no matter what it is.
Happy birthday Bert, you honestly deserved better. Bless your loved ones from above.
>It's not a moment but a progression.
That's just fucking stupid, because Levi would've gotten second thoughts, but he was decided to inject Erwin until that page where the motherfucker raised his hand and that's it.
Eren isn't going to sit well with it, but I don't think he can fully protect Hisu. Plus she might say ok let's do it, since she is suicidal and knows it's for the greater good. But it's going to fuck Eren up, he already ate his dad and now he may have to eat his friend.
>and informatino regarding the coordinate is precious to them, no matter what it is.
Exactly, that's why I think Eren's going to get "asked nicely" by her to explain that outburst.
She's not an idiot, if Eren didn't say what made him yell in that moment, it was inane to ask what it was then and there.
Happy Birthday Bertolt
>rest in pieces
He's already in pieces KEK, sorry anon just joking.
Happy birthday sweet child, a shame you didn't last longer.
Because Zeke doesn't know what the Wall Titans will do if released. Zeke's plan is still to gain the coordinate, because he knows he becomes God-King of all Eldians if he gets it. What we don't know is what Zeke will do with that power if he gets it.
Although truth be told, we're still not 100% sure how Titan powers pass on. There seems to be both a component of genetics as far as who your family is, a component of "drink this and gain hardening", and "eat them to gain their power".
Happy birthday, Bert. Sleep tight. Manga's not the same without your spaghetti.
>shame you didn't last longer
Yeah, it actually is. He's pretty much the only one besides redshirt Marco from his generation to have actually died.
>That's just fucking stupid
That just you.
He was decided, no matter what, to inject Erwin until Flocke started ranting, then he started having second thought via flasbacks.
Then Erwin raised his hand and cemented his change in decision.
Read the damn chapter.
Anon, please. If Eren doesn't want to say it, he won't. He knows what kind of person Hange is, willing to do whatever necessary to save humanity. And she doesn't care about Historia enough to save her from whatever treatment she might need to go trough in order to save humanity. She won't be able to get anything from Eren, and she knows it.
What I do believe can happen, is that Eren will tell Armin about it. Then Armin will report it to Hange and co, and then some bad shit will happen.
This is the most dad/mom moment I have ever read in my life
Didn't even realize it was Bert's birthday.
Yeah well considering how there are barely any Bertfags or BRAfags, it's a simple thing to forget.
I really miss Bert, Reiner and Annie.
I was hoping that they could reunite but oh well.
Nip's shrines are the cutest thing ever.
BR is love, BR is life and this won't ever change.
I'm pretty sure Hanji and a few other noticed, they just gave and excuse because they believe in Eren. If he wants to hide something he probably has a good reason. They will probably ask him what it is next chap tho
Maybe they could have parachuted them or landed on an isolated field. They already had WW1 planes at Grisha's time, so larger planes capable of dropping people into the Walls might have been invented before BRA's attack.
Indeed, they really are. Annie too.
I just wish we saw them fighting together at least once.
Yeah it'd be really fucking cool to see all their titans being together. I'm still holding out hope for at least Reiner and Annie to do it
It's clear what must be done, dump EH
I love Bertolt and Reiner so much. Say whatever you what, they always will be loved.
Planes or Zeppelins would be spotted, and the Bobs really do not want to provoke the Wall Eldians. Sneaking some shifters in would be possible, though. The Bobs are acting under the assumption that the Wall Eldians know as much about Titans as they do, which would mean that an infiltrating shifter would just have to play dumb, offer their services to the military as shifters, and work their way to the coordinate.
The plan changed when BRA realized no one knew shit about Titans, and they just infiltrated the military.
Levi normally has a really strong presence in the manga, but after Erwin’s death he’s so… apathetic.
He talks and acts, but he just looks like he doesn’t really care anymore. He hasn’t got the energy or a purpose to care. Erwin was his source of strength; the reason Levi could be a hero. But now Erwin’s gone, I’m afraid Levi is gonna burn out
I know this is allahshitter (after all these years he still hasn't hanged himself unfortunately) shitposting but I agree. Her fate is still very much up in the air. And until there is a solid confirmation it will always be too soon to call the shots.
>was being inspired
That's the thing, the manga started in 2009, and the story itself was written before the first publication. The first episode of GoT aired in 2011, so that isn't the direct inspiration.
I'm not even disproving that Eren isn't Eren Kruger, I'm just saying GoT has nothing to do with it. Maybe he's getting inspired for another, different manga after this one is over.
I'm glad we got to see them briefly in this chapter.
It means that they get to fill their headcanons with bullshit about Eren refusing to kill Historia and running away together to find Zek or Zackley forcing them to breed to create the perfect coordinate while what actually happens is Historia getting written out of the plot again while Armin figures out some solution that doesn't involve her and Eren talks to him about the ocean again.
>butthurt Christcuck can't separate his religion from fictional characters in a work originating from a region thousands of kilometers away where Cuckstianity was never culturally relevant
Pretty sure they're going to try and command her with Historia and Eren using the coordinate, or fuck with her memory somehow. Pretty sure she'll be the key to being able to go into the offensive.
It also confirmed that Ymir will die soon. Everyone got BTFO in these past chapters.
ErwL, BA and BR are 100% dead
Eren, Ymir and Armin have a death clock.
The only ones that have anything to be happy about are LHfags now that Isayama turned them into the mommy and daddy of the SL
Shit poll. See >>151565142. The only one who will protect Historia is Ymir. I voted for the Armin option out of spite; if Ymir can't have her then I hope she dies in agony, so that they can be together Yumikurrin' in the atheist-afterlife.
>>The only ones that have anything to be happy about are LHfags now that Isayama turned them into the mommy and daddy of the SL
Summoning kek for four months bore its fruit. Meme magic works in mysterious way.
Everything about the serumb owl
A few artists' style seems off to me as well but you know they do stuff because of love, I appreciate that and it's subjective after all. There are great artists too, like a lot lot.
What the fuck is going on?
Did Erens consciousness went back in time to Krugers time and mentioned the Mikasa and Armin thing? Cause that would be like Game of Thrones-like with Bloodraven and Bran going back in time with that Hodor thing.
>Would've been better to see Eren and Mikasa having to deal with their biggest loss yet.
Armin dying would have been a huge game changer. It would have caused a permanent rift in Eren and Mikasa's relationship with LH and the military in general.
In the end all we got because of the serum shit was Eren and Mikasa getting sent to detention for a few days and then everyone acting like nothing happened.
All the Eldians are connected through invisible paths and the one who spot they all come together is with the coordinator(Eren). But the will of the first King is controlling everyone through those paths with Royal blood to behold the truce. And people not from royal blood can not use the power. Eren was able to the coordinate because he came into contact with Dina in chapter 50.
Just one question. The Fritz and Reiss are the same Royal blood family, right?
Just finished reading this shit chapter
Did Eren imply that SL would kill Historia when they know he needs the Royal blood to control the coordinate power?
Welp at least she might meet Shitmir if she gets murdered
There are no other candidates for either L or H.
Yes, anyone with Royal Blood gets controled to hold the truce.
Even if Eren consumes someone with Royal blood, he won't get controled by the will fo the first. Touching Dina allowed Eren to use it. Maybe Eren doesn't even have to kill Hostoria.
So? Doesn't change the facts. I for one thank Allahumikurri from the bottom of my heart and every other Yumikurrier out there for bringing us news that a CANON INSIDE SOURCE CONFIRMED YH!