Is It Wrong To Try To Pick Up Girls In A Dungeon? Season 2

>>151553511

Already being panned on Japanese Twitter and Social Media because they confirmed Hestia has little screen time in this new season.

First, it's not s2.
Second, it was "confirmed" months ago.

>>151553558
Who cares? Unlike the main series, Sword Oratoria is actually fun to read. Can't wait to see it all animated.

>>151553511
Idiot.

>>151553511
Will it have more Riveria? I like Riveria.

>>151553511
I almost fell asleep watching the video
No Hestia means no reason to watch

if you change your perspective a bit, it was Aiz who picked up Bell from the dungeon

>>151553698
>No Hestia means no reason to watch
We'll have better threads then.

>>151553750
How big is aiz's cock?

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Sword of Oratoria =/= S2. Sword of Oratoria starts before the main series chronologically.

>>151553698
Sword of Oratoria is darker and has much more action than the main series.

>>151553698
>Brown twins arent reason enough to watch
Thank god youre leaving you gay faggot.

If Aiz is going to be the main character she must have a far more interesting backstory than I would have assumed from watching the previous series.

>>151553750
It is clearly ok to pick up boys in a dungeon

>>151553511
That's Oratoria, the superior spin-off and it looks good. Can't wait.

OP

Corrected title is Sword Oratoria. Thanks for the correction. I have no knowledge in the manga.

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>>151553921
What you see of Ais in the main series is basically only a persona that she projects around civilians. the Loki familia is composed almost entirely of Berserkers, only Finn, Riveria, and Lefiya are exceptions.

Why do they choose the most generic kuudere ever as MC? I hated her so much I dropped the show, and I hate faggots who thought she was a good character and not just waifubait even more.

>>151554081
She's not that bad as MC. Go read a few chapters of the manga and see for yourself.

>>151553511
Wait why does the art look like Kamachi?

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>>151554211
it looks nothing like kamachi

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>>151554211
You mean why does it look like Raildex?
Because Haimura.

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>>151554290
That makes more sense.
I thought he did his own illustrations for Raildex

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>>151554410

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Best girl coming throu gh

>>151553511
does it have yuri

>>151554890
The most important question

>>151554851
Why isn't she a main character?

>>151553511
Honestly this looks like it's gonna be a snorefest. This show relies too heavily on MMO mechanics and has too generic a setting for me to give a fuck about any action.

>>151553511
But how can a girl pick up girls?

It's not S2. It's the inferior spin-off.

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>>151553511
It's a spin-off you mong and it was confirmed ages ago.

>>151555418
>girl
Bell is more of a girl than Aiz

>>151555419
*superior

>>151553511
The original is boring. Is this one boring too?

>>151555426
See
>>151554022

>>151553558
But hestia was the worst part of the show.

Oh yes more brown twins and less Hestia

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Will there be any best girl in this series?

>>151555348
She's getting her own spinoff.

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>>151553511
Lefiy Master Race!

bah, the character don't look cute

>>151556134
>Is this one boring too?
It has more action and a darker tone than the main series. Whether you find that boring or not is up to you.

The manga looks good, hopefully this takes cues from railgun.

>>151556622
Awesome.

Is this the series where the doujin with the Minotaurs come from

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>>151553511
>S2 confirmed
>MC is the girl
OP you are fucking retarded, it's the spin off.

>>151557342
You will have to be a bit more specific, Anon.

>>151553511
>spin off
>s2
yeah faggot and RailGun is Index S3 and 4

So it's a spinoff about the Loki family?

That's pretty cool, they were a lot better than the previous MC and his sexy but obnoxious titty loli

>>151553511
Saying Oratoria is Danmachi S2 is like saying Yuki-chan is Haruhi S3.

Bell was already a femenine boy so it's not a big deal.

tfw we still have the ova unsubbed

>>151561344
Nope, those are different worlds. Sword Oratoria has the same characters (but different main characters) and the same setting/world. A better comparison would be Index and Railgun.

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>>151561522

It's subbed.

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>>151553511
>Harem anime
>Cut out the personality-devoid self-insert protagonist
>It's actually good
Also autistic girls are cute.

>>151561246
>loli

>>151553511
Will Hestia be in every episode?

>>151561661
>personality-devoid-self-insert protagonist
>"autistic girls are cute"
so, what you're basically saying is even though Ais is a "personality-devoid-self-insert protagonist", it's fine because she's a girl?

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>>151553511

Will they have a battle as epic as the minotaur fight? No they won't, cause Aiz is an OP mary sue and the studio isn't gonna bother with good animation when the MC can kill everything offscreen in 1-2 slices.

The series is gonna suck, can't wait till a real season 2 comes out.

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>>151561958
>Autistic
>The same as personality devoid
Not really no.

Also, I think I'm far from alone in being sick of generic harem protagonists that are only generic for the sake of making self-inserting easier. Nothing against harems per se, but I prefer my protagonists a bit less generic.

>>151561994
>Will they have a battle as epic as the minotaur fight?
Yeah, Aiz vs Udaeus.

>No they won't, cause Aiz is an OP mary sue
And Udaeus is an OP level 6 demon lord.

>The series is gonna suck
You suck.

I'm ready for more vanilla ice cream

With breastia gone and aiz as MC, will the show redeem itself?

>>151561994
Aiz is Op, but overall she fights Op enemy's compared of the Bells enemy's in Sword Oratoria

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>Riveria is now Saber
FUCK

>>151561748
no

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>>151553511

>>151553511

>replace Bell with dull as shit Elf Girl
>remove continuing insight into the ongoing keikaku's

The action is pretty good, I guess. But I don't think there will be anything as operator as Bell vs the Minotaur in it.

Maybe it'll be even shittier than S1.

>>151562542

>Aiz vs Udaeus

Boring. Minotaur vs Bell was spot on because they were evenly matched, and both of them were desperately using every means at their disposal to live. It was the completion of Bel's overcoming of his own trauma, and worked on both a physical and narrative sense.

Udaeus was a literal overgrown Spartoi who Aiz was hunting for her level up.

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I would be happy if wasn't because I know it will be a bore festival filled with meeting npcs, praising how awesome she is instead of showing how awesome she is, and eating cakes and drinking tea.

>>151565047
>Udaeus was a literal overgrown Spartoi who Aiz was hunting for her level up.
Yeah, but why does she want to level up so desperately that she tries to solo a level 6 floor boss that it took the whole Loki familia to defeat before? That's part of her ongoing internal conflict, you know? Bell has his shit to overcome, but Aiz has her own issues too.

Besides the thing was stronger than her, so it was pretty cool just for the action. I hope they'll animate it properly.

>no Ryuu
>no Hestia

dropped

>>151553558
>Hestia has little screen time in this new season
Preemptively dropped

>>151565299
Yes, please. Go and stay go.

>>151565244

Eh. It still lacks the personal connection Bell and the Minotaur had. It also doesn't have the same desperation to it. The minotaur was just as desperate as Bell to win, whereas Udaeus just kind of acts like a monster.

I don't know, the problem with Aiz and Lefiya is that they have much the same character arc as Bell's (wanting to grow stronger/wanting to match someone). There's differences, but not enough to make it feel truly separate. But his is done much better, particularly as he started genuinely weak, as opposed to the story starting at level 3+.

>>151565573
Sorry but I think you're just biased. Aiz was fighting as desperatly as Bell, if not even more so.

And no, Aiz's character arc isn't the same as Bell's at all. Sure both want to get stronger, but Aiz is conflicted about it. Part of her just want to go on adventures, like Bell, while the other it's a darker, more desperate need to get stronger, which probably has to do with some traumatic event in her past (something related to her mother). The conflict between these two sides inside Aiz is the real main point of her character arc.

I give you that Lefiya's arc is more similar to Bell, but that's about it.

>>151564532
Dropped.

nice the spinnof abut the girls is realy good.
Its gona be based on that right ?

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>Aiz vs Udaeus
You are being delusional, this show is not gonna have the slightest plot, it is going to be Aiz showing the elf the basics for 12 episode filler.

>>151553511
How the fuck is she the main character when her personality is more boring than watching paint dry?

>>151566112
We were seeing Ais from other people's perspective, so she came across as boring.

She has her own character arc that's pretty interesting.

>>151565843

I think you misread what I wrote. Aiz was desperate. The Udaeus wasn't, not in the same way. That minotaur was almost human in it's emotions, which might explain it becoming Asterius.

Fights are made cool by both parties, not just one.

And it's harder to emphasize with that need for strength when Aiz is already in the top 10-20 in Oratario. I mean, yeah, the desire is just as valid, but there's less oomph.

>no cute bell-kun
literally no reason to watch this shit

>>151566112

no idea. Her character arc is pretty shitty and is basically 'muh parents are dead'. The SoL bits would be ok if Lefiya wasn't there and if she wasn't even more boring.

Also, the Loki familia really need to decide if they want to be assholes or decent people.

>>151553558
Hestia a shit
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>no shitty Hestia
Picked up.

>no plot progression
>have to put up with Lefiya
>no Bell

Yeah, I'll watch it, but I doubt I'm going to actually buy it like the first one.

>>151566211
>aiz top 20

19 people stronger than Aiz? I thought the Loki familia was in the top 2 of familias.

>>151561958
Yes? Is there anything wrong with this?

>>151566441

Well, I've got no idea where she ranks exactly.

She's probably in the top 5, and the only person who could handle her easily is probably Ottar.

>>151566211
>The Udaeus wasn't
It didn't have to. It just had to be an OP motherfucking monster that can give Aiz a run for her money, because the fight is all about Aiz, about why she's doing something so stupid, and why even though she wants to get stronger so much, part of her feels like she's losing something else, a part of herself, as she getsstronger.

>>151566301
?

With the exception of Bete, everyone in the Loki Familia are great people, and even he has his moments.

>base a series around a girl who doesn't even get a third of the fanart

Railgun made some sense, as Mikoto was a genuine ensemble darkhorse.

The only non-protagonist with that kind of popularity is Hestia, and you can't really make a full spin-off based around her since she's always around Bell anyway.

>>151553511
hestia is to the danmachi franchise to what index is to to aru while vanilla ais's comparable is biribiri. tl;dr oratoria (like railgun) is a shitton more fun and interesting than danmachi (index).

>>151561626
Poorly.

>>151566573

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. We obviously have different viewpoints on what makes a fight top-tier.

>>151566441
Loki familia was one of the top groups, leading the exploration, but that doesn't mean the individual strengh of their members has to be in the top too.

Aiz was their first lv6 ever.

>>151566547
She's probably the strongest Level 6 in the city in close combat, or at least in the Top 3

>>151566712
>Aiz was their first lv6 ever.
No, she's the third one in their group to become level 6.

>>151566712
Finn, Riveria and Gareth were all Level 6 from the start.

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>>151566679
The difference is biribiri has an actual personality and interesting background and solo adventures

>oratoria (like railgun) is a shitton more fun and interesting than danmachi (index).

This is the kind of thought that is killing the anime industry, when a show about girls doing nothing for 20 episodes is more appreciated that a show about magic and a guy punching witch nuns in the face you know something somewhere is broken.

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>>151553511
If this means that the shota (old man) captain will get higher chances of getting a dungeon rape doujin then I'm all in.

>>151566839
>a guy punching witch nuns in the face you know something somewhere is broken.

railgun had better fight scenes, better use of powers, better ANIMATED fight scenes, and overall better art consistency and quality than that QUALITY fest budget tier shit show index

>>151566839
>a show about girls doing nothing for 20
Do you even read this shit? There's a lot of action, a lot more than in the main series.

>>151566839
Mostly it's because Touma and his adventures are boring and/or stupid

>>151566839

Except they're absolutely bullshitting. On average, a mainline Danmachi novel sells 4-6 times as much as a Sword Oratario spin-off.

As an example, Danmachi volume 10 sold 77,000 normal copies and 24,000 limited edition on it's first week.

Oratario volume 7 sold 17.5k normal and 10 k limited on it's first week.

Danmachi sales also tend to remain decent for much longer.

>>151567096

This.

>>151553622

This, also why are people spreading misinformation. It's not Loli-cow tits season two. It's based on the spin-off which is leagues better than the garbage main story.

>>151566945
It has also lot more of NOTHING happens (in the anime)

>>151566961
Sorry, I was talking about the anime adaptation in that part of the post, I should have clarified that.

>>151567096

This. Oratario sales will probably be decent, since Danmachi has a solid fanbase, but without Hestiameme and her ribbons to pad the sales out, I wouldn't expect much.

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>>151567096
>Series that got an anime sells more than the spinoff of that series that hasn't gotten an anime yet

Holy crackers, you've got a point!

>It's based on the spin-off

Jesus christ, does that mean we have to put up with that retarded elf? I actually dropped the manga because of her, despite really enjoying the main franchise.

I fully expect shitty animation and for this to barely survive being a flop due to hardcore main series fans.

>>151553511
I've had it enough with meme girls every season. Ribbon tits were shit and will only attract even more normalfags and memesters.

>>151567287
I remember when after all the Hestia costume meme thing they tried to make a dedicated comiket/convention/whatever and it failed so hard.

>>151567262
>NOTHING happens
Yes it delves into SoL a bit more, but most of the time it does advance the plot as a result.

Index has.... bad plot direct half the time. Railgun has a direct story plot and direction. Index tends to get too wrapped up in its own story to get anything done.

>>151567385

>A well-done spin-off can't be more popular than the original

Happens all the time. Sometimes unintentionally. Oratario is not a well-done spin-off and the majority of it's sales are from dedicated fans of the main series.

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>more of best elf

>>151567632
>Happens all the time
Name one.

>>151553511

>>151553511
The real question is will Heroic Desire be played or is it being locked as Bell's theme?

>>151567632
>Happens all the time.
I think it's actually pretty rare.

Besides having an anime adaptation can increase LN or manga sales quite a bit too. I think we better wait until after Sword Oratoria anime to make sale number comparisons.

>>151567708
A Certain Scientific Railgun.

>>151567708

Sailor Moon anime.
Railgun anime.
Redline.

Only one's I know for sure off the top of my head in anime, but there's tons more examples in western media like Warhammer 40,000., Happy Days etc etc.

>>151567769

You're talking like Oratario didn't get a massive boost from it as well.

Prior to the anime, it was selling 7k regular and 1k limited.

Don't get me wrong. I expect sales to rise. But if they even double from where they are, I'll be incredibly impressed.

All I wanted was more Hestia.

>Get this instead

Fuck damn it. This girl wasn't even memorable.

>>151568283
The worst thing about DanMach is Hestia.

>>151568307
You are wrong.

>>151568391
no u r wrong

>>151566493
bell is cuter

>>151568434
no u

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>>151553511
>female protag
>kuudere protag

I'll watch it for the hestia cameos.

>>151553511
>Saber clone no one gives a shit about
BRING BACK BESTIA!

>>151553511
Not worth watching unless they make the brown girls becoming cock slaves of the minotaurs canon.

>>151568730

If it makes you feel better, a minotaur does beat the shit out of them in the novels.

>>151565997
>it is going to be Aiz showing the elf the basics for 12 episode filler
Sounds legit.

What about an actual season 2?

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>>151567671
But that's not Ryu

>>151569384

Only happens rarely, since the anime is as much an advertisement for the LN as anything else.

>>151569518
Well I'll keep hoping.

>>151569392
I want to lick Ryu-san's butthole!

>>151553558
That's because even Japanese know the series is garbage that's only redeeming factor is Hestia. The series itself, like most LN adventure series, is shit.

>>151569384
It's JCstaff it could get a season 2 considering it sold well.

>>151569672
I can't believe you're taking a word from someone who doesn't even list any sources as fact.

>>151554851

That Saori Hayami "Silence" got me all hot and bothered I'm not ashamed to admit. She needs to do that voice more.

>>151566839

/a/ seems to stick hard and true to it's no fun allowed regime

>>151568307

Second worst

The only thing worst is that vanilla bitch

>>151569778
>considering it sold well.
It DID sell well. One fo the top grossing non-shounen anime for 2015.

>>151553558
Ais is the most popular character of the franchise though.

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>>151569392
mmmmyes

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I'll watch it for amazons.

>>151570476
Probably among the people who actually read the series books.

>>151570444
JCstaff have proved this year that they don't actually like money by adapting taboo tattoo instead of starting sequels to raildex or danmachi.

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>>151569974
Sources for what? It's the spin-off prequel about the shit girl, of course Hestia won't be prominent.

>>151570476

>citation needed

Hestia is far and away the most well-known character.

>>151570849
Use google to actually look up who ends up showing in character polls representing the series and the position they are in. Aiz is always higher up then Hestia. The only thing Hestia got going for her because of the anime is porn. The people who actually buy the original LN's don't rate her all that high.

>>151571687
Yes, and? We're talking about the anime, not the shitty LNs that stupid 13 year olds read.

>>151571925
>not the shitty LNs that stupid 13 year olds read
And you watch adaptations of said LNs?

>>151572000
Nope, I just like the Hentai. Couldn't get past episode one of the show. You're actually retarded if you like the series.

>>151572243
So you are in this thread just to shit-post about an anime you don't care about?

>>151571687

The one official poll I can find has Aiz fourth, behind Hestia, Bell and Lilly.

She barely beat Welf.

>>151572443
Sauce?

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>>151572393
I'm on a train to comiket, so yes, I'm killing time.

The series is shit, get over it.

>>151572627
>I'm on a train to comiket
What are you picking up?

>>151572620

Pretty sure Ryu is more popular than that, or else why would she get her own spinoff?

>>151572709
Today, non H symphogear and industry stuff.

>>151572620
I don't get it, how many Loki cocks is Aiz's horny bunny worth?

>>151554049
>2 people
>almost entirely

>>151572726

This was from 2014. Ryu's popularity among readers probably improved after she took part in the Familia War.

>>151566441

Ainz's official power rank in Oratoria is 3.

The only character more powerful directly is Ottar, but the author said that Rivera could win 50/50 right now and if Fels unleashed his whole armory, he could win against anyone, though only guaranteed once.

>>151573405

>Fels

Who?

>>151553511
>the story of sword autist
well fuck, i'd rather an actual season 2.

>>151573515

An ancient mage/alchemist who created a flawed philosopher's stone that made him immortal, and also a Lich.

He's not that great at direct combat, but he has a shitload of magical items that he made over the years to make up for that.

He's also the only wielder of resurrection magic in the entire setting and probably the most skilled healer around.

>>151572726
Either it's not a poll or it's an anime only poll, though even with an anime poll these rankings would make no sense, I think it's just some chibi art I have seen somewhere before. In terms of popularity Ryu is right behind Aiz and Bell. Finn too perhaps.
>>151573241
This is bullshit. Welf has never been that popular.

>>151567926
Railgun is not more popular than the original by any means. Index novels are at the top 5 best selling light novels while the manga of railgun does Ok at most.

>>151553511
I don't hate her or anything, but Aiz has kind of a boring personality for a main character. I hope they change her in some way to make her more engaging.

Hoe many elves in this one?

>>151573671

>one guy gives some source
>you pull numbers out of your ass

Why don't you link one of these polls you keep talking about?

Wait a minute, if no one likes Bell because beta male, if no one likes Hestia, if no one likes Aizutist...then why the hell people watched the anime?

Who are you guys watching the series for then?

>>151573771
>Pics of chibi characters lined up
>Source
Post the link instead of bullshitting like this.

>>151573787

It's almost like people have different opinions and 4chan is a hive of shitposting.

I like Bell. I think his character is pretty cool most of the time, and more importantly, consistent.

I like Hestia, because I like the clingy jealous girl archetype.

I also like Aiz, but not enough to want to watch a full series based about her. She works best kept distant from the action.

>>151573839

I'm not even him. Both of you are pulling shit out of your asses, but at least he posted a nice picture.

You're just saying that your favorite characters rank higher and telling people to google polls that don't seem to be there.

>>151573884
Are you me?

>>151553511
>no shitty generic male MC
>no shitty meme string waifu
>goddess MC
>brown twins
>qt elf
Why do people hate this?

>>151573937
Not the same anon, but that pic on its own means nothing.

>>151573990

It says anonymous above both our posts, doesn't it?

>>151573884
>but not enough to want to watch a full series based about her

Personally I don't mind who is the MC I liked this universe, like pretty much any high fantasy anime, and I would watch any series set in that universe regardless of who is the main character.

I think the appealing of Danmachi wasn't the characters or the story, but the setting.

>>151569672
But Hestia is the worst part

>>151573937
I am not the one who told him to google poll and I know this pic is not one. This pic is from a Danmachi omake(Days of Goddess IIRC). Even on the wiki you can see it as a pic which just represents some characters. Welf and Mikoto have never been above Ryu in popularity. And a supporting character like Miach even less.

>>151574017

Yeah, and I agreed with him on that. I said it was a nice picture. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was the picture made for the anime's release.

But he's not providing any evidence either, so he can stop pretending his opinion is fact as well until he does.

>>151571021
>prequel
wew lad.

>>151553511
Which brown twin would you cum inside first?

>>151573884
>She works best kept distant from the action.
It depends on what sort of action do you like. If watching a newbie going up the ranks is your thing, then Aiz would definitely not work for you. For those who just wants to see a powerful MC kicking major ass, Aiz does the job just fine.

>>151574011
>Why do people hate this?
Because
no shitty generic male MC
no shitty meme string waifu
Blank cardboard MC
brown twins almost have no screentime at all
Annoying noob elf excuse for exposition

>>151574011
>Why do retards with shit taste hate this?
ffy

>>151574149
Anon, I have never tired to prove that my opinion is fact. The one with his "poll" si the one who did. Anyone with a brain would understand that this is bullshit when someone like Miach can be above Ryu and Syr is not even present.

>>151574282

If I wanted to watch an emotionless shell beat the shit out of everything I'd watch Mahouka.

>>151574361
If you think Aiz's just an emotionless shell you're just a retard.

>>151574398

Should I just have said autist?

Point is, she's not a great power fantasy either. Ainz or I'm The Best are better if I want my fix.

>>151553558
preemptively picked up

>>151574398
She's boring as hell. It'd be like making Rei the main character of Evangelion.

>>151574529
>Should I just have said autist?
How should I know? Point is she's not emotionless. All the opposite, she's got shit she's dealing with, emotional issues and such.

>>151574636
>She's boring as hell
In the main series, maybe. In Sword Oratoria she's okay. She's on the serious side, sure, but that isn't necessarily boring.

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>tips defora
>m'lady
>euphoria

>>151574636
>confirmed for never read oratoria

fucking pleb

>The main series sucks
>This is better because it's the series of a cute girl
Fucking /a/ I swear.

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>>151574906
Worked for SAO.

>>151574906
The main series is harem shit so the bar is pretty low.

>>151566839
the only good parts of railgun for me was when Touma got involved

>>151553921
The main character role is split between her and an elf mage training to replace the guild's top mage. She's still kind of boring, but her backstory is more interesting than you'd think and the events they deal with are far better than going deeper into the dungeon.

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>>151574829
>Ryuphoria

>>151575063
Me too.

>>151574906
Its mostly the /u/ crowd which likes this
Their biggest complaint about the series was the male MC

Even though the underdog Bell is a lot more interesting than the Mary Stu doll

>>151575160
There's nothing interesting about Bell. He's like any fake underdog harem MC out there, down to the fact that despite being the "underdog" he improves faster than anyone, managing to accomplish in months what took Aiz years to achieve. Underdog or not, he's the most special snow flake in the series.

>>151575325

Still more interesting than Aiz. And that's ultimately what's important in a work like this.

>>151575573
>Still more interesting than Aiz
No really.

>>151575325

You're mistaking a character's traits for what makes them interesting, as opposed to the writing and presentation of those traits.

I mean, take Hei. He's a Ninja with electric powers and Batman's gadgets. He's the only Contractor with no remuneration. Basically every female he interacts with falls in love with him.

But he's still a popular and interesting character.

>>151575063
He should stay out of railgun

>>151575750
>You're mistaking a character's traits for what makes them interesting, as opposed to the writing and presentation of those traits.
I'm not, but what makes a character interesting is not just their personality. It's the whole package that includes their backstory, character arc, presentation and so on.

>>151575836
Railgun wants him in it

>>151575893

And that's always going to be subject to subjectivity.

The fact that Dan Machi has gotten so popular is proof that Bell appeals to a significant number of people.

>no Hestia
>no Lili

dead on arrival

>>151575836
He'd be so lucky.

Railgun is on the doorstep of the point where we'll be seeing Misaka deliberately inserting herself into Touma's adventures. Anyone who thinks Touma should stay out of Railgun should prepare to tear their hair out in frustration.

>>151553511
Might watch it. The PV doesn't have a bad vibe though I'd have to see how gamey it is. Never picked up the main series.

>>151576181
>Bell appeals to a significant number of people.
Sure, but >>151575160's argument that "the underdog Bell is a lot more interesting than the Mary Stu doll" still makes no sense because despite being the so called underdog, Bell's abnormal improvident basically makes him a Gary Stu as well.

>>151576181
Not that guy, but a series can be popular for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the MC.

The point's kind of academic anyway. We're going to be seeing a fair amount of Bell in Sword Oratoria anyway if this anime has any fidelity to the source.

>>151576493
If it's a 12 episode series, I don't think we'll see him all that much, actually.

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>>151576414

True, but he starts from a lower place to begin with. The idea of starting from a low position and working your way upwards very quickly is a popular power fantasy, since the astonishment generated in the setting by said progress is part of the appeal. It's extremely common, and not bad if the justification for such is consistent. Isekai is a typical example of this.

Basically, people don't just like underdogs. They like to see the underdog win.

>>151576418

True. But the story focuses a lot more on him than is typical of the genre, and the only romance that plays a consistent part is Bell's unrequited love of Aiz, which is also atypical. so it probably plays a bigger role than usual.

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i read the LN, ryuu is bell's sister

>>151575063
That's because like the author said once, Mikoto being powerful makes it harder to write her story without making the antagonist with plot devices, as spills and the like to not be ass kicked by Mikoto.
That's why we got
>AIM Burst can regenerate itself fast
>Accelerator can't be hurt so Mikoto had to be saved
>Mikoto was mind hacked so she had to be saved
>A robot with consciousness who of course is weak against electric powers
And most of the time it's secondary characters taking the spotlight away from Mikoto.

That's why he uses Touma, Shiage, Cripplelerator, Qwenser etc as MCs.

>>151576680
>True, but he starts from a lower place to begin with.
Sure, but he's still as much a Gary Stu as Aiz, if not more, and that's all I was trying to say.

>>151576905

Well, yeah. Just in a different way.

Which one you find more interesting is up to each individual person.

>>151576905
If you ever read the novels beyond volume 3 in Oratoria you'll find its power creep is going to Dragon Ball Z levels.
And that's not a fucking good thing.

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>>151577453
It's okay as long as the fights are cool.

>>151577453
The enemies have gotten more powerful, yeah, but the protagonists haven't followed suit, so I can't really call it power creep yet.

>>151567926
Ah, so you're a liar who doesn't know what he's talking about. Railgun while indeed way better than Index, sells nowhere near the same amount

Kinda like Oratoria

>>151577750

It's almost like better is a subjective term, particularly in a work produced for the sake of enjoyment.

>>151577453

To be fair, the main series is starting to nudge into that, what with Welf's magic swords being strong enough to drive back level 5+ adventurers and Asterius beating back both the amazon sisters at once before tanking a charged Argonaut attack.

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>>151576649
Still trying to figure how Danmachi wardrobe works.

They stick the clothes with glue or something? Because there is no way that open unbelted skirt can be in place without falling.

>>151578090

Magnets.

Ais >>> Hestia

>>151553511
Too bad Yasuda isn't the artist of that book too.

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>>151578090
Who cares

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>>151554890
Yes, Leffiya is deep in love on Aiz
she also had some romantic relationship with Filvis

>>151578864
I think you use the wrong button anon.
Aiz <<< Hestia.

So no icky boys? Picked up.

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with this character design it will be hard make Aiz smile like this

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>>151556654

Shouldn't Lefiya have leveled up after the end of Oratoria Manga chapter 28? You level up after you break through your limitations and do something heroic, right?

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>>151577533
>you will never test loki in a wind tunnel
why live

>>151553511

>FeMC

They should have just done that from the start. I'm almost certain it's still going to suck though.

>>151566191

LNfriends always say this, but somehow EVERY TIME the "interesting" stuff never transitions well to the anime. People said GGO (SAO) would be great, back before it aired.

I've learned the hard way not to take anything LNfags say seriously. I'm pretty sure most of you haven't even watched 100 series.

>>151583514
Never ever listen to LNfags. There just ESLfags who can't even read moon who get mistranslated spoilers on animesuki so they can pretend to be not secondaries. They're an aggressive mix of retardation and shit taste.

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>>151570024
She used to do silence moe in the past

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I can get behind a cute Jewish Princess

>>151578021
Yeah but in Oratoria is more blatantly evident.
Asteroid was an oddity in the original Bell hot his ass handef by while in SO is the "norm" and you can't beat them unless you're a ultra special snow flake.

>>151572726
It is just bonus story, not actual spinoff like Oratoria. Ryu won this poll to get bonus story about herxBell.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/07/main-couple-to-be-featured-in-is-it-wrong-to-try-to-pick-up-girls-in-a-dungeon-bonus-story-announced

>>151583567
Newfags like you think the Danmachi fanbase who is able to read is mostly at AS.

Well, atleast we will get more story and action than just brainless fanservice, though I think it would still has fanservice with the twin

>>151583967
No, that's old new, the past month she also got her spin off called Danmachi Grand Casino that is yet to be published but you van see the drafts and more on the official blog.

>>151553511
It's not even season 2, it's an anime adaptation of the spinoff

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who was the best?

>>151584076
It has more fan service with the twins, Loki, Aids, Lefiya and even Elfmom compared to the main series with just Hestia, Bell and Lily and the occasional girl of the arc.

I hope they cut it down.

>>151583967
They actually displayed some nice taste for once.

>>151553511
>More tomboy Loki
Yes please.

>>151584161
Hestia wins best girl by default.

>>151582150
Lefiya already reached level 4, but decided to stay at 3 to improve her magic stat more.

She's much more capable than a typical level 3.

>>151553592
This.

It's a spinoff, not s2.

>>151567708
Nanoha

>>151553511

>Clearly says Sword Oratoria, but idiot put Danmachi S2

Idiot. Sword Oratoria is better but not by a lot in my opinion, I don't see why people love jacking off to it.

>>151553511
Why won't Haimura go back to drawing porn?

>>151586095
Nanoha isn't really an spin-off of Triangle Heart, but more like an AU remake.

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It's a spin-off you fucking retards.

>>151575126
is there a site that has the rest of the cards?

>>151553511
Delicious brown girls.

>>151577750
sells a lot more BD's

>>151584032
Hello ESLfag who can't read moon.

I never finished the first.

>>151553511
I didn't know I wanted this

>>151553511
What about the elves do they show up?

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>>151556654
>>151579981
>>151580416
Hey Mugs, are you making "KumiRei Kills Asuka" right now? I mean, Asuka killed your OTP.

Somehow i get the idea that Syr is really Freya in disguise at least some times. There's no way she just develops feelings for a crybaby kid.

>>151553511
Dropped like a fat man.

>>151553511
>MC is the girl
So it should be "Is It Wrong To Try To Pick Up Boys In A Dungeon?"

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>>151583773

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>>151584161
Lili> The brown twins > Hestia > Ryu > Half Elf > Freya > slutty goddess > Aiz > samurai > samurai support > a cat is fine too

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>>151553511

I don't remember a single interesting character from the first season. Why do they think that a spinoff about the supporting cast would be any better? I also remember a lot of contrived writing. It's pretty much going to be the same shit, but with a stoic FeMC. Naturally, the more shallow and simpled-minded among us will eat this up.

Why the spin off instead of whatshisname?

>>151556654
>>151579981
>>151580416
>Expecting yuri from clearly a harem anime
Is this faggot for real? I hope this anime removes all yuri and give Bell more screentime so he can get triggered again like when he followed Hibike.

>>151601270
>hy do they think that a spinoff about the supporting cast would be any better?
Because there is a manga spinoff that sells well

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>>151601431
Anon...I wont say its yuri, because it isn't, but the Yuri undertones are strong in the spinoff

>>151601680
Thank you so much for making that faggot more hyped for this anime. We're sure gonna love having him in this spinoff's threads.

>>151597752
Syr is another name for Freya

>>151601767
How dares people to have expectations!

>>151602133
Fuck off, Mugino.

>>151592723
Hello EOP

>>151553511
>S2 confirmed

Fucking idiot.

>>151553511
>S2
>Sword Oratoria
Retard. But SO is interesting so I won't complain one bit.