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Now that the anime dust has settled, can we agree Josuke is the

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Now that the anime dust has settled, can we agree Josuke is the worst Jojo?
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I think Giorno "I have a dream" Giovanna is worse but Josuke easily has the worst haircut.
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>>151541527
Jolyne is the worst Jojo.
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>>151543850
>not wanting slut tomboy
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>>151541527
>not jonathan

Josuke is top 3 fgt
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>>151541527
>>151541527
part 8 josuke yes

part 4 josuke no
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>>151541527
Considering that Araki lists him as his favorite character in the series, no.
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>>151541527
nah he still has more personality than Johnathan
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>>151545054
didn't his author insert hate the guy?
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>>151546097
Yeah, Rohan hates Josuke.
However, people call Rohan a self-insert as a joke. Araki wrote Rohan to be pretty much his polar opposite in manga philosophy.
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>>151543850
>Jolyne
>Not Gio
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>>151541527
he has personality but in terms of his impact in the story he felt like he did NOTHING.

Which wasn't Joskues fault because Araki wrote part 4 to be more about the whole group of brojo's than about the main Jojo.

Josuke gets a few fights where he barely does anything except for last minute 'fixing' something that somehow changes to fight. They made josuke like Yusuke Urameshi where he had one move every episode. FUCKING KOICHI MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN THE MAIN JOJO
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>>151546097
If you think Rohan is anything like Araki personality-wise, you know nothing, as Rohan is a complete dick while Araki is a sweet and gentle soul that feels compassion even for his phone light.
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>bad outfit
>MC in one of the worst parts of the series
>propped up by the superior cast around him
>muh hair ha ha ecks dee
You could erase him from part 4 and lose nothing.
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>>151550411
>worst parts of the series
I'll concede to you the other aspects, but I disagree there, Part 4 had a lot of charm and is where Stands truly came into their own, plus Kira is a villain with a unique motive (while many killers want to escape justice, Kira's specific obsession with his life being simple and quiet beyond just escaping puts him above the rest, especially during time of serialization) and stand aesthetic that sounds ridiculous on paper but can actually be fairly intimidating when actually depicted. It's not the best part in the series, but I feel its impact on the franchise, especially with Jojolion going, shouldn't be ignored, especially as its stands are objectively superior to the stands of the part that precedes it.

I also think Crazy Diamond's ability is rather unique, even if it's brought down by the overall unimportance of its user.
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>>151550349
I remember someone saying that those terrible light novels like George joestar only got Araki's blessing because he's too nice to say no to them.
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>>151547510
Giorno is better and cooler than Jolyne. At least he didn't die when finishing up his part. Also the only people who like Jolyne are horny guys simply of the fact that she's a slutty girl and is shown masturbating in the beginning of her part.
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>>151542507
That's bullshit, but i believe it.
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official Jojo rankings are as follows

Josuke > Joseph > Josuke > Johnny > Jolyne > Jotaro > Jonathan > Giorno
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>>151550611
Personally, I really like josuke (8) as a character.
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>>151541527
Did we ever find out who the guy was when he was a child?
The moment I read that scene I thought it'd be some time paradox shit where he's sent back in time.
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>>151551018
Josefumi Kujo
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Johnny > Josuke(8) > Josuke >Joseph > Giorno > Jotaro > Jolyne > Jonathan

Araki himself admitted he could have done a better job with Jonathan. I don't hate any of them and they're honestly all pretty good though, I can see any of them making the top of somebody's list. I really don't understand the hate for Giorno that goes around.
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>>151550349
>Araki is a sweet and gentle soul that feels compassion even for his phone light.
lmao what are you, his girlfriend?
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>>151551617
bitch that wasn't hyperbole
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>>151551507
Giorno is just boring Jotaro is more interesting
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>>151551836
hes to pure for this world
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>>151551836
Holy fuck what a guy
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>>151551836
That's a lot of compassion for an elder vampire
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>>151551836
by god, I love this guy
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>Patrician tier
Jolyne, Johnny

>Decent tier
Giorno

>Okay tier
Jotaro, Josuke

>Meme tier
Joseph

>Pleb tier
Jonathan
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>>151552211
>Giorno
>Decent
what a fucking retard

>Jonathan
>Pleb
yeah you are irredemable trash
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>>151552211
bretty good taste
dunno about giorno though, need to reread part 5
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Before the anime aired, most people's favorite Jojos were Joseph and Josuke. When we got the Battle Tendency adaptation some people started to bash Joseph. And now finally we get people shitting on Josuke. You guys are undeniable faggots.
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>>151543850
this
She couldn't even defeat the main villain of her part
NOT TO SAY that she literally made the whole world end, thus making 4 JoJos beside her die (Joseph, Jotaro, Josuke and Giorno)
4
fucking
joestars
died because of her

fuck jolyne
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>>151551507
Johnny > Joseph > Jotaro > Jonathan > Josuke > Josefumi > Jolyne > Giorno
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>>151552983
That's not how mad in heaven works
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>>151551881
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>>151553527
oh I'm sorry
Jolyne's a hero then
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Gappy > Joseph > Johnny > Jotaro > Jonathan > Josuke > Giorno > Jolyne
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>>151550322
Okuyasu needed to start his own fight. He usually played a supporting part. Even in the part he was introduced he was supporting his brother. I think that's my only complain about part four.
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>>151551837
You didn't even read Part 5
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I dunno, I think Giorno is pretty cool. Definitely like him more than Jolyne.
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>>151551836
I want whatever he's smoking
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>>151550553
She becomes pretty badass though
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>>151554992
flaw of not being a pure punch ghost. Silver Chariot, Magician's Red, and any other stand that would either immediately end the fight or make it bloody. Theres a reason you can only use swords on robots in cartoon
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Only Jotaro and Jonathan deserve to be towards the bottom of any ranking, since their entire personalities can be summed up with maybe two words at most

Top Jojos would probably be between Giorno, Josuke and Jolyne, with Johnny > Joseph > Jo2uke behind them
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>>151558518
Jotaro is redeemed in later parts though. The autistic cowboy bit was downplayed. Part 3 would be the best part in my opinion if it was handled like Part 4.
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>>151552983
>Jotaro immediately jobs to Whitesnake when he first shows up in part 6
>Jotaro directly causes Pucci to evolve his stand a second time at the space centre
>Jotaro fails to kill him in frozen time because he refuses to risk Jolyne getting hurt a bit, directly leading to everyone else's death
>but all of this is Jolyne's fault
Every time
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>>151541527
That's not how you say Asspulltaro.
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>>151558616
This.
Jotaro is the worst jojo, but certainly one of the best brojos.

Anyway, in terms of personality and charm Joseph is clearly the superior Jojo. That's out of the discussion.
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>>151558616
While Jotaro certainly becomes less shitty he doesn't really change as a character. For the three parts he's in he still has most of the same flaws, just emphasized in different ways, and is always better suited as the strong and silent finishing move delivering side character than an MC.
Meanwhile Joseph is in three parts as well and you get huge insights into his character from different angles and see him develop, albeit at times negatively, from a charismatic trickster, zealous father and hypocritical, senile, yet kindhearted fogey
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>>151558518
Jonathan isn't even as bad as people make him seem. Jonathan is manly, heroic, honorable, strong, and gentle. His entire character is meant to be the pinnacle of what a man should be and I think that scares a lot of anons because they cant relate to him so they assume hes the worst because "muh no personality".
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>>151541527
He isn't bad. Kind of average.
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>>151559036
Joseph was always a hypocritical nigger. Nothing changed.
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>>151541527
The ugliest JoJo for sure.
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>>151541527
No.

>>151542507
What the fuck did you just say about his hair?

>>151543850
Shit taste, to be desu.
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>>151541527
He's like a more refined Jotaro. Both are high school boys with (basically) single mothers. Josuke acts like a friendly and wild delinquent, while Jotaro is a stoic and aloof bancho.
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>>151559051
Jonathan is what happens when you center an entire character around the concept of chivalry. He's the paragon of a gentlemanly soul, intended to be the unsullied pillar of the Joestar bloodline.

People don't like him because he's a relatively flat character, as with any character who functions as a symbol. He's unchanging, always honorable and always willing to forgive his enemies for their evil deeds.
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Saw this and realized the part 3 squad was actually kids, not a group of men in their 30s like the anime made them look like.
Polnareff actually looks young here.
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>>151560814
Yeah they were all under the age of 25.
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>>151550322
Koichi is main jojo, his arcs are even depicted in his hairstyles.
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>>151550322
Just wait til part 5.

Bruno is best Jojo.
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>>151560814
>>151560936
Jotaro and Kakyoin are only 17. Polnareff is 22, and Avdol is somewhere in his mid-late 20s. Meanwhile Joseph is fucking 69.

It's really just Araki's style at the time and the general style of the era, they looked the same in the original manga as they did in the anime. Or maybe it's because if you average out their ages it puts them all at 30.
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>>151559673
Agree. Dude's an idea rather than a human being. Makes all his descendants good ppl at heart despite all their flaws, which is flat storytelling transformed into 5d underwater reverse space poker storytelling.
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>>151550322
>>151561088
I always thought of Koichi as the protagonist of Part 4, not any of the JoJos. Which is one of the reasons why it's such an interesting part. You just have this random teenage kid narrating his story of being pulled into a grand adventure by three generations of Joestars and ends up getting superpowers, even ultimately being the one to "beat" Kira by pinning his hand down. Koichi's narration is probably why people get a more laid back, SoL-esque vibe from Part 4 compared to other parts that give a wider perspective on events.
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>worst Jojo
Not Jonathan kek
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>>151558713
It's what Pucci said, the weakness of the Joestars is in their blood. Their reluctance to let another member of their family die is their weakness. Jolyne and Jotaro both made this mistake in part 6 choosing to save a family member when the opportunity to stop Pucci was right in front of them.
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>>151554427
Well, they didn't TECHNICALLY die. But you can thank Emporio for that since killing Pucci essentially created a world where everyone was reincarnated into more normal, peaceful lives.
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>>151560814
More like old Araki's style made you believe.
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>reading Battle Tendency
>suddenly AWAKEN MY MASTERS
>almost busted my gut laughing
You assholes ruined this series for me
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>>151551836
> This level of autism
Is he one of us?
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>>151543850
How can one man be so wrong?
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>>151551836
lmao and people still claim he is not a major faggot
>inb4 marriage and kids
yeah right, like faggots weren't forced to marry and have kids before. Either araki falls on that category he is the most oppressed massive faggot i've ever seen.
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>>151552983

>She couldn't even defeat the main villain of her part

To be fair, neither could Jotaro. Pucci had an unstoppable stand, the only reason Emporio could beat him was because Weather effects everywhere at once. Made in Heaven is unassailable by short range power stands because of its speed.

>she literally made the whole world end

Not literally because Pucci did that.

>thus making 4 JoJos beside her die

The other Jojos survived. MIH doesn't kill people when the universe is reset.

The fact you don't know any of this proves you're just a speed reader. Jolyne, if you noticed, was the best Jojo up until that point because she the only one other than Jonathon who had development. Joseph, Jotaro, Josuke and Giorno were all "complete" characters who were already fully developed badasses.
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>tfw you didn't fall for the "Joseph is not the worst Jojo" meme

Feels great
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>>151563054
>Having daddy problems somehow make jolyne the best Jojo.
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>>151563179

Ah, the old "reduce something to one line to make it sound retarded" meme.
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>>151563179
who are you quoting?
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>>151563054
>the only one other than Jonathan who had development
kek
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>>151550322
>didn't kill Kira himself
>some random dude in an ambulance did when the crew have been searching for him

I was pretty upset there. And the fact that they had all the good stand users gather up to supposedly search for Kira after finding out about Shigeki's death. I don't see the point of that when the majority of them did fucking nothing throughout the rest of the episodes. Though, I can understand because that was a big cast to handle and their arcs are finished.

Still a waste though.
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God, part 3 is a chore to sit through.

>Guys, this strange occurrence is happening
>Do you think it's a Stand?
>No way! A stand that could do X? That's crazy?
>HOLY SHIT IT WAS A STAND
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>>151563426

Such as? Keep in mind I'm saying *up that point*. Johnny and Gappy obviously have had more development.
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>>151563597
Jonathan hardly changed throughout his part. He was introduced as a gentleman and died a gentleman. All other jojo's already have this quality and more. Only redeeming factor he has is that he's the first jojo and his "n-nani wo surunda! yurusan!" quote. Don't get me wrong, Jonathan is a cool jojo but the ones after him are just so much better and interesting in comparison.
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>>151552271
But it's true though, Jonathan is Kenshiro 0.5. You couldn't make a more cookie-cutter "Superman" protagonist if you tried. The only thing that made Jonathan a redeemable character was his death/sacrifice.
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>>151552271
>what a fucking retard
Why are Jonafags/part 1fags so volatile?
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Which rule 63 jojo would you?
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>>151564113
Hot Pants
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>>151563590
Part 5 is exactly the same.

Only reason it's not as shit as 3 is because Mista, Bruno and Narancia are good unlike Awful, Boretaro and Kekyoin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QD4obmo1qI

Any wizards that can make a gif or webm out of 1:59 - 2:02?
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Tips on part 5 anime, take notes DP

Give Giorno back his Romi Park voice.
Keep Sugiyama as Bruno
Keep Sanpei as Narancia
Give Mista a new voice, his old voices are shit
Rewrite Doppio into a twist
Make Narancia's death more shocking
Make Bruno's final sacrifice more grandiose (OST, reactions, etc.)
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>>151563849
see
>>151561390

Jonathan is not a character, and that's not a bad thing. He's the embodiment of the ideas of chivalry and justice. Which is why it's so important that even the JoJos with the worst morals like Giorno and Jolyne end up having moments where they pull through with acts of selfless heroism. A little bit of him is at the "core" of all the JoJos.
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>>151552343
>people are flocking to fucking Giorno now that anime onlies got their hands on Josuke
Awful.
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>>151565054
Giorno has always been garbage
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>>151564898
I understand Jonathan is really just a symbol and works as a "force of nature" hero but it doesn't change the fact that you could literally swap his personality with many other cliche hero's and see rarely any change.
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>>151565054
Young Joseph, Jolyne, and Johnny are the only Jojos that are both great characters and great Jojos.
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>>151565133
If you swapped his personality/embodiment then it would ruin the importance of him as a symbol. Life would go on, but Jojo would miss out on one of its few aspects that have literary meaning.
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No Jojo is really all that bad. The only Jojos that I have any serious issues with are Jonathan and Giorno because neither of them get enough screen time.
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>>151565204
He's important but he's 1 dimensional I almost see Phantom Blood as Genesis to the Bible.
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>>151565139
Josuke fits this as well
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>>151565054
People always cry about "Polnareff's bizarre adventure" and "Koichi is the MC" but Giorno is the only Jojo that truly and honestly gets overshadowed by his side cast. Bruno obviously shits all over and around Gio but even Mista, the probably balding retard faggot with the ugliest hat in the world outshines him.
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>>151565338
That's how I see it, too. Phantom Blood is good but also really hard to compare to other parts since it's almost like Jojo's "creation myth" that sets the series in motion. It was probably just like that because Araki hadn't hit his stride yet but it makes it feel more significant in the greater scheme of things.
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I would say Bruno is the best brojo but he's essentially Brujo so that title goes to Gyro
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>>151541527
You clearly have shit taste. Josuke and Joseph are best Jojo.
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I love Narancia so much!
Also fuck you Josuke is the best Jojo and Part 4 is the best part.
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST MY LEFT TOE FEELS WEIRD AFTER LOOKING AT THIS.
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>>151550322
>>151561516
Koichi is a reader-insert, similar to Gohan.
He's just an average kid who ends up getting pulled into the crazy shit going on, and is made for the reader to identify with.
Koichi isn't meant to be the main character, he just gets so much pagetime because the reader can project onto him. It's why he does nothing but narrate the RHCP fight.
Phantom Blood Speedwagon was also a reader-insert.
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>>151565373
I feel contrarian saying it but I don't really like Josuke that much. He's basically just a wilder version of Jotaro: a delinquent with a twisted sense of justice and an unbreakable will, but an underlying heart of gold.

Plus he's not really a great Jojo since Koichi is more of the main protagonist to Part 4's ensemble cast.
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>>151565551
>Koichi is a reader-insert, similar to Gohan.
>He's just an average kid who ends up getting pulled into the crazy shit going on, and is made for the reader to identify with.
>Koichi isn't meant to be the main character, he just gets so much pagetime because the reader can project onto him. It's why he does nothing but narrate the RHCP fight.

Koichi gets the most character development in the entire part
Gohan is only 2nd to Vegeta in this category
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OWWWWWWWWWWWWW FUCK YOU ARAKI.
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>>151565561
Oh I meant Part 8 it was kind of dumb of me to not differentiate
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>>151565618
The gore in this fucking part is so damn unpleasant
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>>151565618
>tfw this fight is going to be nothing but a black screen in the anime
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>>151565642
I like Part 8 Josuke because he builds up his own character and identity, but I don't wanna rate him among the other Jojos until the part is over because we're almost guaranteed a timetravel plot twist involving Bite za Dusto that could change his development.
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>>151565561
Koichi was the protag for the first half but Josuke was undeniably the protag for the second half. It's not like Josuke didn't do anything in his part at all, people who say that clearly haven't read/watched DiU. He did plenty and at the end him and Hayato were the ones who did the most to corner Kira.
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>>151565731
Josuke also has overall more arcs than Koichi, despite what memers want you to think.
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>>151565831
So people are forcing the same "Gio had the least amount of presence in the group" meme with Josuke now, even though both are factually incorrect? Can't wait to see how much people shit on part 5 when it gets animated.
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>>151565604
Koichi's character development is incredibly abrupt though.
He has huge bursts of character development that happen whenever he gets a powerup.
He never develops "naturally", like Polnareff or Okuyasu.

Even then, character development has nothing to do with being the main character.
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>>151565870
>"Gio had the least amount of presence in the group

He doesn't have the least but Bruno feels far more like the main character, especially when the epilogue is devoted to him
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>>151565876
>okuyasu
>develop naturally
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>>151565902
I'd say it's more of a tie, Gio had like half a fight more than Bruno did but Bruno did feel like a main character a lot. I don't see how this is an issue though either because both Gio and Bruno had some damn good moments to shine and that brought their characters out pretty well, re-reading part 5 in the new scans is doing wonders for Gio to me.
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>>151565870
>Gio had the least amount of presence in the group
Why do people say that when Abbachio, Trish,and Fugo exists
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Anyone else kinda bothered by the fact that Giorno can heal like Josuke? I feel like it's kinda stealing/recycling Josuke's gimmick.

Araki tries to differentiate it from crazy D by claiming the healing process of Gold Experience hurts and is slower but it never is brought up again or plays any role after the Narancia sees Giorno suck Mista off gag.
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>>151541527

HOLY SHIT PART 4 TOOK PLACE IN JAPAN ALL ALONG!
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>>151565902
Both Giorno and Bruno were the MCs. Everyone else in the crew were in the dark about what they wanted to accomplish.
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>>151566009
When people talk about the group, they mean Gio, Narancia, Bruno and Mista because Aba and Mr. "Ran away from the plot" are so fucking forgettable people don't even remember they exist when criticizing Gio for being forgettable.
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>>151566174
Abbacchio is great though
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>>151565960
He does though.
He starts off being unable to make his own choices and relies on his brother.
Then, he learns to make his own choices after RHCP.
And he finally comes to terms with his brothers death at the end of the part.
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>>151566218
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>>151566009
>Trish
>part of the group
>not just the magical plot artifact: tits edition
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>>151563836
You've never actually read Phantom Blood have you?
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Jolyne is clearly the worst. At least Giorno has some fun moments.
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>>151566388
Jonathan changed Physically through Hamon, thats about all.
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>>151563836
>hardly changed throughout his part
>whatdidhemeanbythis?????????????.flac
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>>151566492
>Jolyne
That's not Jonathan though.
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>>151565876
Wouldn't his random character development be what leads to those powerups, technically, with how Stands work? I agree they were pretty jarring and sudden though, was disappointed when it happened again to get him his third Stand.
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>>151565961
Gio's battles were either pretty weak or he was being overshadowed by Mista. Only his battle against crazy clown doctor had me amazed. His """battle""" against Diavolo was so offensively bad it almost makes me think Araki was just dead tired of part 5 and wanted to end it right there, but I know that's incorrect since many of Araki's favorite characters are from part 5.
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>>151550611
>Jotaro that far down
Son, are you some kind of gay?
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>>151566218
>angry mean faggot
>ugly
>boring underutilized stand
>dies early
Shit
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>>151550611
Giorno > Johnny > Gappy > Josuke > Joseph > Jotaro > Jonathan > Jolyne
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>>151566656
Hi Giorno
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>>151566656

>>angry mean faggot
He's only mean to Giorno though

>>ugly
Ur mom

>>boring underutilized stand
Moody Blues wasn't a combat stand

>>dies early
Not even the first one to die or leave

>Shit
No u
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>>151566528
I literally can't recall a single cool Jolyne moment besides the mobius strip. People talk about Gio being boring or forgettable in his part, but Jolyne is outclassed by literally every member of her group. F.F. and Hermes are way better girls and Annasui and Weather are way better characters.

Jonathan, while being pretty much a giant wad of meat with little personality, had some pretty awesome fights and a beautiful end.
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>>151550611
Nope here's what they are

Gappy>Johnny>Jolyne>Joseph>Josuke>Giorno>Jotaro>Jonathan
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>>151566589
Bruno vs Diavolo was more memorable than Giorno vs Diavolo.
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Can we stop figthing?
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>>151566780
There are no good part 1 fights past Jonathan vs Dio at the burning Joestar mansion.
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>>151566831
We are not fighting.
Be happy that we are discussing something instead of shitposting.
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>>151566803
>la la la bruno gets some help from giorno and then gets donuted by diavolo
Sure thing bud.
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>>151566499
A simple "yes" would do
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>>151566780
What? Pretty much every one of Jolyne's fights had her at the helm making smart decisions, and plus to boot she's got some of the most iconic scenes like the whole "fuck you from around the world" one in Planet Waves.
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>>151566656
>dies early
Not as early as Bruno
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>>151566924
Not that anon but you're pretty much conceding if you're saying that, at least tell that anon why he's wrong unless you don't have anything to support your point.
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>>151564113
Yukako
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>post yfw Great Days plays at the end of part 5
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>>151566889
>la la la Diavolo just loses with no fight
Sure thing bud
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>>151566997
Not conceding, just pointing out that anon is shitposting about a part he either hasn't read, or speedread years ago and clearly can't remember any of the first few chapters.
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>>151566889
You forgot that Bruno knew that Diavolo knew that he knew.
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>>151565561
There's a big difference thougj: Jotaro is a delinquent, while Josuke thought delinquents were cool and took after them but is essentially a momma's boy
>Not my Gucci shoes!
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>>151564113
Kosaku Kira
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>>151567081
Why not educate him on why he's "speedread" then? This thread's got some healthy discussion going after all, you might be able to educate some people on why Jonathan isn't as bad as people think he is.
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>>151567137
Because this is funnier.
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>>151567054
>yfw Vento Aureo's OP is a gachimuchi version of Sono Chi no Sadame
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>>151543850
nah, Johnny is
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>>151567231
Jesus Christ yes

Also make the outro something good like Gansta's Paradise
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>>151566042
Gio's healing is essentially just crudely patching people up, while Josuke has perfect instant healing. Its limitations could've played a bigger role like how Josuke not being able to heal himself was a constant problem, but I'm not too bothered.
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Narancia just got done giving me a rim job.
Jealous fuckers?
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>>151567652
Hope he washed Fugo's shit off his tongue first.
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I swear not a single person in the world is anywhere near as cute as Narancia is.
He is just so perfect makes my heart flutter and my dick hard.
>>151567713
Mane fuck you fucker.
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I want to do lewd things to Jotaro
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Is Mista bald? What hides under that ugly hat?
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>>151567825
he has short black hair i believe
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>>151567825
>>151567865
We have never seen him without the hat.
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>>151567825
>what hides under that ugly hat?
Nigga you never noticed?
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Narancia's making cum right now!
Nothing you can do about it.
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>>151568004
Nobody cares Fugo
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>>151567825
Most fanartists draw him with short black hair because we saw it stick out on the sides from under his beanie in his flashback. But other than that we've never seen his head, he could be horseshoe bald for all we know.
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>>151568023
I'm not that bitch ass fugo fucker.
I'm Naranciafag motherfucker I fuck Narancia for days on end.
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>>151568066
Fugo chill the fuck out, narancia is gonna melt if you pound her ass with PH too hard.
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>>151553565
Dr. Giorno, I'm passione
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>>151568106
Fuck HIS ass and I'm not that bitch ass pussy mother fucker Fugo.
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Do y'all think AC/DC will let them use Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap or will they just call it Filthy Acts Done At A Reasonable Price
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>>151541527
if by worst you mean best, yeah
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Jolyne throwing 1000 baseballs was her only good scene.
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>>151568122
How big is Mista's penis?
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>>151568194
About 3.50
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I'm jerking off to Narancia right now and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
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>>151567296
nah, YOU are
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>>151568170
Narancia probably has cancer by now.
Can Purple Haze spread diseases or he only fucks narancia's gap with virus?
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>>151568174
They might just use D4C and call it that alone, without an explanation of why its called that lmao
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>>151568194
The coating of smegma makes it really thick
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>>151568194
4 inches.
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>>151568245
Fuck you I am not fugo and Narancia is disease free.
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why does everyone want the kono dio cock so much
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>>151568325
You sure about that?
Do I have to remind you that she was a hobo that you had to feed?
She probably has more deformed dick than those motherfuckers in Emergence.
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Is this impossible?
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>>151568234
Whatever fugo. Everyone has their hobbies and fetishes
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>>151568194
Giorno: 12"
Fugo: 2"
Mista: 4"
Narancia: 1"
Abbacchio: 7"
Blono: 7"
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>>151568487
I AM NTO FUGO FUDCK YOU
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>>151568374
Charisma and the fact that Johnathan dick must be proportional to the size of his body
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>>151568505
>Giorno
>having a big dick
He has a feminine boypenis
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>>151568569
I'm pretty sure he can use gold experience to make himself a horsecock
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>>151568466
That's an especially adorable image, how about we chill and just post another one?
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>>151568569
He got Jonathan's big dick.
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Why do you niggas hate Fugo?
>Badass stand
>elder God tier style
>helps people in need
>attemped to teach a faggot retard math
>follows orders
Literally 10/10 gangster
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>>151541527
DON'T OPEN THE SPOILER BEYOND THIS POINT
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>>151568505
Fugo: 2" with microscopic balls
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>>151568619
Fuck off K-box
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>>151568615
Fugo's alright, getting shafted hurt him though.
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>>151568610
He got fucking nothing fom Jonathan. Jonathan was a mountain at the age of 10, Gio is a prettyboy twink.
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>>151568615
I agree,except his fashion sense is a joke. >two piece Swiss cheese meme suit
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>>151542507
Yeah i agree completely. Girogio it's the least interesting one.
>>151543850
It's the only one i don't mind having impure thoughts about. But in detriment her part was pure and unfiltered bullshit.
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>>151568689
t.sandals and socks
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>>151568615
You know that fucking ugly retarded guy that flirted with every girl in school and them unconformable.
That's fugo.
>>151568603
Ok.
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>>151568615
Araki realizing how OP he was midway through shafted his potential
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>>151566780

Not really Jolynes fault that her crew was mostly filled with forgettable characters.

Put her with the Vento Aureo crew, and she wouldve the best Jojo by far.

I liked her interactions with Bruno in that 1 shot.
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>>151568673
Jonathan was when Araki's art style was shit. Giorno still has a big horsecock.
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>>151568721
Yo post all these sadistic narancia images on imgur or some shit.
I want to see your collection
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>>151568618
YATTAZO!
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>>151568721
Were you the butthurt white Knight getting cucked by Fugo
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The train fight in part 5 was fucking retarded.

literally everything about it
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>>151567015

Worst girl in Jojo along with Hermes.
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>>151568809
Name three (3) reasons why
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>>151568618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuD7jbLJEE
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>>151568809
It and White Album were the only good fights though.
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>>151566953

Planet Waves was her only good fight, the rest were overrated or bad.

The likes of Narancia had better fights than Jolyne.
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reminder the only part that benefits from color scans is 4
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>>151568190

Beating the shit out of Gwess was miles better, most satisfying moment in SO.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxlZLr25LQ&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=23O99tOpMRc-6
>What is a stand user?
HE HAS GONE FUCKING MAD
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Part 5 when
Reading is for losers
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>>151568802
No it was just creepy as fuck to watch.
>>151568796
Here's a lot of my narancia images.
I haven't updated this in a long time and only a couple are sadistic but if you want to look here.
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>>151568505
>Fugo
>not an average dick while being a quickshot
>naranchia
>not haveing a 3 inch hard
the rest are fine though
>>151568615
Fugo is aight, just wished he fought Notorious BIG or some other bozo
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>Fugo: Hey Narancia what are you-
>Narancia: *BBBRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP*
What did he mean by this?
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>>151551836
Araki is cute!
CUTE!
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>>151568973
FUCK YOU Fucker
Narancia isn't in to that sick shit.
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>>151568932
>xforts
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Narancia is a mistake
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>>151569081
You're a mistake.
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What fight in Part 5 would benefit the most from being animated?

I say Kraftwerk. Give it a good sound-effect and show the bullets slowing to a stop in mid-air, and it'd be way more interesting than "oh he got shot but I guess it didn't work, oh now there's a bullet just sitting there in every panel".

That, and Sale throwing pebbles into the air, freezing them, and walking on them. That shit'd be way cool IF ARAKI BOTHERED DRAWING IT.
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>>151569041
I cannot get him the fuck out of my recomended videos.
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>>151568936
>>
Who has the largest penis in part 5
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>>151541527
>muh hiar
>muh money

yes
that's the depth of this """character"""
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>>151569028
>Narancia: Aerosmith!!!
>*prrrrrtbrbtrrtt*
>Narancia: woops that was me
What did he mean by this?
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>>151569142
Carne
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>>151569116
Damn that sucks.
>mfw jojos bizarre crack and jojo funny moments wont leave my recommendations
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>>151568618
holy shit
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>>151568880
Really i read part 5 like three years ago with the bad translation and leave it like that. But then i heard that there was this color project. But does the translation improve in with this? because i'm about to re read it.
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>>151568466
That is exactly something Fugo would say
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>>151569229
Wew Narancia needs to shower he smells like ass
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>>151569142
Doppio, Diavolo gets all his girth from Doppio's fat dragon cock.
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>>151569237
The team's called Jojo's Colored Adventure but ironically it's all about the translation and barely any of the colored stuff is out.

But yeah, the new translation is vastly better. They need to use spellcheck, but there's all kinds of character moments (VENEZIA) that the old translation fucking butchered and ruined whole characters.
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Why isn't this autist range banned?
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What would the World Be Called if it was based off of a song?

"Caught Somewhere in Time" Would work
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>>151569146

I don't see it such as a terrible thing, because as matter of fact he's a pretty big guy, he's still is in highschool. Which made him kinda belivable in the established setting.
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>>151569374
Don't you find his pathetic flails about getting a man that already belongs to fugo cute
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>>151569411
Holy Diver, obviously.
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>>151569411
HOLY
DIVER
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>>151569374
I've been banned over 25 times now.
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>>151565551
I thought Kira was the self insert.
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Have a smol cat
>>
*BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP*
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>>151569653
FUCK YOU FUCKER I"LL END YOU cvfdi[xsp
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What's your favorite Stand?

Mine has to be Tusk, specifically Act 4. I love how fucking scary it is.
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Part 2 is the best JoJo anime
Prove me wrong
You cant
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>>151568932
Less than a minute in the video he's already talking shit, how the fuck do people what this guy's video?
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Chances of this scene being recreated at the end of JJL with Tsurugi and Mitsuba?
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>>151569688
Whitesnake and his every evolution.
The first time I saw this bad motherfucker take a disc from Jotaro I almost shat myself.
>>
I figured it out.

P6 will have 3 special openings;

First one = White Snake swaps out OP for SONO CHI NO SADAME
Second One = Song Plays sideways
Third one = Sped up
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>>151569787
Nah, that's stupid. Only Made in Heaven will get one. KQ and SHA didn't get anything special, why would Whitesnake and C-Moon?
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>>151569677
Fucking fuck off you fucking fuck fucker
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>>151569851
Because the first is abilities for one stand of the good guy
The other is different stands for the good guy.
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>>151568615
Ikr? Fugo is great, Araki fucked him over and people dismissed everything about him. Unfair, desu.
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>yfw
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>>151569677
What happened here? Did Narancia get pinkeye from his scat fetish?
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>>151570060
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>>151570060
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>>151570115
D-DID HIS EYES MOVE?!? NANDATO?!?
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>>151569768
>Tsurugi made Gappy promise not to hurt Jobin
>If a fusion happens and Gappy has to kill the mess off and can't save Jobin even if he was a bad guy
>Tsurugi watches his father die but doesn't seem Gappy trying to help him
>We get this scene recreated in part 8 to close it
>Even if the joestar curse is fixed, most of the Higashikata family has been wiped out in return
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>>151565376
Do people actually cry about Polnareff's Bizarre Adventure though?

Pretty much everyone I talk to likes him more than Jotaro. It's Koichi who people tend to get mad over.
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>>151566656
>angry mean faggot
He's the only one who doesn't immediately think the sun shines out of Giorno's ass. He cares about his teammates and shows it.
>ugly
Lol
>boring underutilized stand
Underutilized sure, but it wasn't boring in the least.
>dies early
He dies literally two fights (Secco/Cioccolata and SCR since the final Diavolo fight wasn't a 'fight' at all) before the end, the story was at least 80 - 90% over.
>>
The reason part 6 is so disliked is because Araki was transitioning from a simple but unique and interesting writing style to a more complex one, however he had not gotten used to it until early part 7 and it shows (poorer pacing with less interesting things going on, awkward plot progression).
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>>151570569
>The reason part 6 is so disliked
Is it? It's my 3rd favourite part, I think Jolyne and Pucci alone are some of the best-written characters in the entire series and the 2nd half is JoJo at its prime before SBR/JJL.
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>>151568874
>This is what speedreaders actually believe
>Whitesnake
>Jumpin' Jack Flash
>Foo Fighters
>Sky High
>Underworld
>C-Moon
NEVER go full retard.
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>>151569851
Well because KQ is one stand with 3 abilities
Pucci has 3 stands to his name.
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>>151570612
>She crashed a fucking plane into a plane
I'll never forget that fight, Joseph would have been proud.
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>>151568874
>naranchia had better fights than jolyne
LMAO
Planet waves, whitesnake, C-moon and UNderworld are miles better than babys first shrinking adventures
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>>151570569
The reason 6 is so disliked by a vocal few seems to largely be because of speedreading. Like you said, it has a slower pace than 5, which (while being very fun and having endearing characters) was much more simple and mindless.

Nearly all the part 6 hate I've seen has been people who clearly don't know what they're talking about, going on about how characters like Pucci are mindless DIOdrones, or that Jolyne is useless and shallow, or that they missed details like why Annasui and Jolyne didn't just kill Yo Yo Ma.

A bunch of people I've seen praising 6 are people who reread it and enjoyed it a lot more the second time because they actually had time to figure out and appreciate what was going on.
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>season 1 is still Davids peak
Why isnt post Season 1 jojo so good? Poor plot progression? Stands? Music? Less /fit/ mayan vampires?

Pic related, 3 most popular Jojo videos
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>>151570687
I wonder how long before the anime brings us Formaggio vore
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>>151570687
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>>151570791
Post season 1 JoJo's better though, it's just that people who only watched the show for the
>LE MANLY MEN AND EBIC POSING XDDD KONO DIO DA!
memes have left, and thank God they have. Every part from part 4 onwards blows parts 1-3 out the water.
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>>151570685
Jolyne's basically young Joseph in terms of personality but without the obnoxious asspulling. Wish they could've met, it would've been great.

They totally would've fucked if they didn't know they were related though
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>>151570623
It'd be stupid for Pucci and his Stands to hog so much screentime like that. The "special" OPs are special because they're climactic. If it happened all three times it would be super boring.
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>>151570762
Fucking this, the amount of people who shit on part 6 for Pucci being Vanilla Ice 2.0 or for Jolyne being Jotaro 2.0 are just plain speedreaders.

It's the same for people who unironically think Yo-Yo-Ma and Dragon's Dream are bad enough to bring the part down to anything below parts 1-3.
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>>151570869
>>151570687
While I agree with you didn't Jolyne get shrunk too? Twice?

Gwess and Formaggio should make Jolyne and Narancia kiss and play house with them.
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>>151570870
This.
>>151570894
What if Joseph visited Jolyne instead of Jotaro and this the prison break happened early?
>>151570921
Of course, the first 2 openings are not gonna have The time stop etc treatment to them but their presence should be apparent in the OPS
>>
I can't wait to reread parts 5-6-7.
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>ywn see Jotaro treat little Jolyne like this
>>
But, what about shizuka Joestar in later parts?
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>>151541527
I can't remember Josuke for shit.
Like, I can put myself in the place of other JoJos and try to think what they'd feel like in a certain situation. I can try to look at them and guess what they must be thinking when something happens because of their personalities. Even Giorno.
I can't do that with Josuke. I feel like I never got to properly see his personality. He felt more like a side character that got forgotten by the story, up till the very end.
>>
If there's ever another female jojo what do you want her to be like?
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>>151570997
>Joseph attempts to break Jolyne out of prison
>Fucks up, gets arrested and imprisoned
>Now Jolyne has to break him out as well as herself
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>>151571033
It's a ride, I tell you. Part 5 and 6 grew so much more on me on the re-read. 5 is basically part 3 but legitimately much better, and 6 has some of Araki's best writing in the series.
>>
>>151541527
>>151571118
I assumed the hair flashback was foreshadowing something, but nothing happened.
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>>151551836
>literally me
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>>151571129
positive, upbeat, stupidly strong, but incredibly dumb. thinks with fists and loves to pull pranks. has lots of heart.
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How did they made Stray Cat so cute?
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>>151571157
>Jolyne has to break out her great grandfather outta prison
>Joseph completely owns the male prison ward despite being 91 years old
>everyone makes rumors about what got him into prison scaling from robbing a convenience store to driving a tank into a Mcdonalds
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>>151569237

The translation and coloring are good but it's full of this wordart-tier bubble text that makes it a chore to read.
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>>151571203
On most images it looks like something is fucking him.
Especially first 5
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>>151571262
Do not lewd the Plant Cat
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>>151571129
Kind of a bummed out, melancholic but still hopeful chick, prone to anger, when she feels like a female Giorno, but with more charisma.
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>>151571129
Honestly I don't know. Jolyne's by far my favorite because of her crass charm, ferocity and genuine heroism and I always love those traits in characters, but another JoJo (male or female) being too similar to her would make her feel less special.

Maybe a really sardonic and world-weary sort of girl who's reluctantly heroic in spite of herself could be cool as a contrast to all of the extroverted and idealistic JoJos. It'd also be cool if she was less impulsive and more of a thinker, there hasn't really been a JoJo like that since Giorno and I'd like to see it done better than him.
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>>151571290
I don't want it either
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>>151571301
sounds decent anon, I don't think we had a Jojo quite like that yet
>>151571242
kek
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>>151569217
>different BEST JOJO VINES or MEMES keep polluting my recs
>watch one
>it just a jojo character flapping his mouth badly synced to some unfunny sitcom line
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>>151571166
My theory is that Josuke was supposed to get sent back in time by Bite the Dust, save his past self--as in, he was the delinquent who helped Josuke's mother get to the hospital-- and develop a new stand ability that would have allowed him to reverse the effects of stand abilities, thus allowing him to go back to the present to defeat Kira.
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>>151571242
>Joseph gets mad at Jolyne for busting him out just when he was starting to like it
>Insists on saying goodbye to all the friends (read: people he scared and/or beat the shit out of with his cane and trickery) he made
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>>151571129
I'd like to see a scared but heroic JoJo
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>>151570870
Theres also the fact that David fixed all the fucks up with P1/2 art, made pacing very good, fantastic usage of effects still, best VA/Music. The only thing they obviously didnt do is fix side characters screen time. P1/2 when properly paced can still have lots of appeal to them due to being reduced to 26 episodes, as it flows really nicely that way.

Meanwhile P3 gets 2 chapters per episode and did nothing to make the "journey" more interesting.

P4 did merge together Enigma/Superfly/Cheap Trick and swap Shigechi dies/cinderella arc which was good.
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>>151571129
A scaredy cat
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Was Annasui someone's prison wife?
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josuke is alright but not the best by any measure. part 4 is still the best part though
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>>151571436
I'd like to add that my theory is made possible by the fact that Araki has been known for dropping plot points. The whole Fugo being a traitor subplot was dropped from part 5, for example.
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>>15157125
That's actually good to know, it would have a let down if the translation was barely understable again.
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>>151571460
They would have been fucking eaten alive for messing with Part 3.

The fact of the matter is that Part 3 just isn't that good, especially compared to later Parts. Everyone just likes it for how iconic it is.
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>>151571499
It was until SBR.
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>>151571129

A depressed shut in who's stand is her only friend that bitches incessantly when she's dragged into the plot against her will.
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>>151571485
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>>151571166
It's just a flashback.
Josuke's savior is the same thing as the gangster who saved Giorno in his childhood. A random figure that exists to be idolized by the protagonist and to shape his character.
It was literally never supposed to be anything else and you would be an ignorant idiot in believing otherwise.
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Where are the official (or "official unofficial") YouTube uploads of the openings? The ones with the Japanese titles?
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>>151566009
I seriously forgot Abbachio was a thing until I started re reading part five honestly.
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>>151571571
On Warner JP's channel.
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>>151571547
Reminds me
>still no JoJo directors arc
Araki wasted his chance with Davids go at the series.
>>151571129
Someone whose personality cannot be described in 1 sentence.
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>>151571610
I didn't appreciate Abbacchio until I reread part 5.
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>>151571394
MODS
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>>151571622
Just about everyone's personality can be (roughly) described in one sentence though, even the more complex ones.
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Post your favorite character designs
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>>151571250
The old scans are much harder to read.
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>>151571669
He suffered the most from lack of good translations, I think. His sass and outbursts got turned into absolutely nothing.

Mista too, I found him painfully forgettable the first time round but I adore him now.
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>>151571301
>>151571330
>>151571459
>>151571483
There seems to be a pattern here for a more introvert type of JoJo.
I like that, especially the post that says
>a really sardonic and world-weary sort of girl who's reluctantly heroic in spite of herself could be cool as a contrast to all of the extroverted and idealistic JoJos. It'd also be cool if she was less impulsive and more of a thinker, there hasn't really been a JoJo like that since Giorno and I'd like to see it done better than him.
>>151571557
Kind of like a female Kakyoin Jojo
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Part IV apologist arguments
>T-the SC anime had no style!
>Style makes up for fugly animation!
>Joseph's Bizarre Adventure!
>Giorno looks gay!
>Giorno is a bad protagonist!
>DiU > SBR!
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>>151571720
>>151571776
Why is this allowed
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>>151570762
Part 6 and 8 are too slow though, this is especially bad for 6 since very few interesting things happen per chapter and I did not find any of the crew (Hermes/Weather Report/Diavolos long lost twin/anyone else) to be that interesting. Also stand designs went to shit after 4.
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>>151571692
There are so many that I don't feel like listing them all.
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>>151571692
His ASB colouring is the best
>Cute blue and white clothing with good contrast
>Red hair to complete his red, white and blue theme
>Simple but striking
>Tummy
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>>151571622
>Araki wasted his chance with Davids go at the series.
He really doesn't seem to care about the anime at all or what is done in it. Going by the interviews in the wiki, even aside from the OVAs he's been approached before by studios wanting to make a JoJo anime, and nothing came out of it (we can assume he turned down the offer).
It's not like he needs the anime either, the manga sales are pretty good.
If anything he's just happy more people acknowledge his work's existence.
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>>151571692
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>>151571827
>Also stand designs went to shit after 4.
False.
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>>151571827
Gold Experience and King Crimson are better designed than everything in part 4.
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>>151571738
I didn't even realize he had a sense of humor in the shit translations, Abbacchio a cute.
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>>151571692
Jobin speaks to me on a spiritual level.
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>>151571862

>Johnny and Gyro's EoH colors
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>>151571436
Araki has stated in an interview that he never planned anything with that and was confused when he heard people were expecting somethng out of it. This is the same Araki that admits dropping plotpoints left and right (Fugo's betrayal/being a mole, Kira's mom).
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>>151571776
>dirty cookies
eat a bullet dumb twink
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>>151571615
Can you link the channel? I'm going through the Warner Bros. channels that come up when I search "Warner JP" and I've only seen a video about the Great Days single being on sale.
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>>151571692
D'Arby is the most stylish minor villain.
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>>151571903
except Killer Queen
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>>151571807
>Implying big D gives a shit
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>>151571982
Yes, except Killer Queen. Echoes was also good.
But not Crazy Diamond. It was literally just a gay looking The World.
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>>151572024
>this might be Diavolo's colors for the anime
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>>151572013
Dumb twink.
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>>151572055
Better than pink.
>captcha wanted me to select a sign point to "Cinderella"
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Spiral staircase
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>>151571827
>Also stand designs went to shit after 4
Pffph, no. Parts 5, 7, and 8 have some amazing Stand designs.

>>151571903
Pffph, also no. 4 has great ones, too. KQ, CD, The Hand, and Echoes are all awesome.

I don't see why people like Gold Experience's design so much. It's pretty basic to me. Then again I'm not a huge fan of Gold Experience in general so I'm probably just biased.
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>>151571825
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>>151571921
Which was worse? Swamp-monster Gyro or Santa's Little Helper Johnny?
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>>151571118
He's just a nice, polite guy who worries about friends and family. He isn't as dynamic as the other jojos. They all really stand out but Josuke doesn't. I dont hate him, I love him as a part of the whole Morioj gang but he just isnt that gur8to daze.
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ALL THE SCHOOL KIDS SO SICK OF BOOKS THEY LIKE THE PUNK AND THE METAL BAND
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>>151571903
>Gold Experience
nah
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When will somebody make an Akira/RHCP version of this?
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>>151572115
>clash and talking heads being upstaged by 2 japanese homos
what did araki mean by this
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>>151572115
Purple would be best
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>>151572123
>CD
>just a gay looking The World
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>>151571903
>Gold Experience aka crying gay C3PO
>good
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>>151572179

you mean Italian?
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>>151572125
>Killer Queen has already touched those cookies.
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>>151572115
Why was everyone in that thing fucking green?
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>>151572094
Is Doppio stuck in a cookie-dropping loop?
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>>151572263
>mistas fucking face
WOAH
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>>151572039
>>151572210
You can say this over and over but it won't make it any less false.
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zipper man > all stands
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>>151572310
The face of a man realizing he is the only heterosexual in the room
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>>151572317
Mushy & Soaked > all stands
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How did we go from this redesign
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>>151572183
I'd go with a black, brown, red or an edgy white.
But my favorite would be red.
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>>151572216
I think he's talking about Josuke and Okuyasu
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>>151571692
How is it possible for a character to look good regardless of how stupid his clothes are ?
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>>151571692
both
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>>151572376
It's not a redesign, he changes his clothes in the manga too.
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What is Doppio for?
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>>151568615
Only complaint I have about him is that his flashback outfit and current outfit are switched. Flashback outfit is much better.
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>>151572376
To this redesign
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>>151572404
pure charisma
all of dios outfits post phantom blood are genuinely awful though
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>>151572365
>not Diddly-squat Despot
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>>151572446

Holding hands with.
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>>151572446
dropping all of his freshly-baked cookies like a retard
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>>151572376
He changes his clothes in the manga too.
>his outfit is literally stitched into his skin
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>>151542507
Giorno is definitely worst.
The whole son of DIO thing could have been so good but they go nowhere with it
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>>151572311
Whatever you say.
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>>151572148
they look bad in the games, but in the illustrations those colors work really well
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>>151572094
I liked this sequence a lot.
>>151572263
I don't know Araki was feeling like drawing a green and purple illustration that day.
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>>151572446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi57d50pCUw
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>>151572446
Did Araki hate Doppio?
He just leaves Doppio in the dark and makes him die lonely and sad.
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