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According to Japanese fans I've spoken to, Diamond is Unbreakable

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According to Japanese fans I've spoken to, Diamond is Unbreakable is the worst JoJo part and Part 5 is infinitely superior to it.
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>>151536319
No you haven't
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>worst Jojo Part
>AOTY 2016
0/10 Bait harder
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>>151536411
Just goes to show how fucking shit most anime this year is.
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>>151536319
Nips have shit taste.
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>>151536319
Part 4 is not the worst but it's seriously overrated. Part 5 is great and some people and having a change of heart because of the new translations.
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>>151536319
That's the common Japanese perspective. Worst Jojo is between DiU and SO though
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>>151536319
I've heard from nip-speaking gaijin that part 5 has very literature-savvy dialogues with deep vocabs and stuff that adds to the experience. In scanlation, there are couple of things that are lost in translation.
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>>151536319
I've heard they like parts 4 and 5, and hate 6.
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3 > 5 > 7 > 4 > 2 > 6 > 8 > 1
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http://votecloud.jp/polls/view/97

Seems like they enjoyed 3, 4 and 5 the most.
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>>151538656
>1 vote for Stone Ocean
I knew nips hate it but goddamn.
At least JJL seems to be really well liked.
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>>151536319
それはどうかな。:-)
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does 5 have good scans and translations yet? i don't give a fuck about pizza gangster jojo and just want to get to jolyne, but the last time i checked scans were shit
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>>151536864
>>151537459
Nah 4 is pretty well liked in Nipland, and 6 isn't hated it's just where the series started dropping in popularity because Araki decided to write to a slightly older audience but still publish in WSJ so no one read it because his target audience didn't read WSJ. Same with 7 but it switched magazines and wasn't named JoJo for six months so even less people read it. Part 8 is reviewing a lot better than either 6 or 7 though, and thanks to the anime the series is getting popular again so 8 is selling well in addition to reviewing well.
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>>151539201
There's like 30 chapters left to retranslate which isn't bad out of a 155 chapter Part. Unfortunately those are the chapters where things get batshit and the bad translations completely butchered.
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>>151539201
There's 3 volumes left that haven't been retranslated.
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What are the best scans? Where to read em?
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>>151539422
JoJo's Coloured Adventure scans on Batoto. They're the first to do a good BW translation of 5 despite the name, but they have another 30 chapters left which is basically just the end of the second last fight then the finale left to translate.
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>>151536319
Well, for something with Bizarre Adventure in the title, part 4 definitively doesn't have much adventuring
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>>151539520
it was pretty bizarre though
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Honestly my favorite JoJo parts go somewhat like 1>3>7>2>8(so far)>6>4>5


I feel as though I am one of the three people who likes part 1 the most and part 5 the least, but still.

>>151539703
Faggotry and a shit animation style compared to SC doesn't equal bizarre anon
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>>151539733
oh you're that 1 dude who thinks Jonathan is the best JoJo, Sup dumbass.
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what's wrong with jonathan
he's a nice guy who fights for justice. a bit vanilla but that's not a problem
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>>151539989
The problem is he's too vanilla.
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>>151539989
No one hates him they just like the others more because they have more to offer.
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okay but what about jotaro
he doesn't communicate much and just gives occasional 1 liners. if it weren't for the fact that part 3 introduced stands he wouldn't be so popular
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>>151540475
He's edgy, that gets him a few fans
His Stand is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful
Straight up looks interesting, design-wise, I mean
He killed DIO, who not even Jonathan could kill

He's my least favorite Jojo, only tied with Jolyne, but he does have some good points.
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>>151539989
>>151540475
I think the answer is that the only choice for best JoJo is Joseph.
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Are you people really that stupid? Part 4 is the worst so far!
Hey let's take everything interesting in parts 2 and 3 like motives for the henchmen, a great and interesting main cast, great stands, great fights, epic final battle, and great and atmospheric scenery, and throw them out the fucking window!
Koichi is the most boring, and most shitbag character in jojo so far, and okuyasu and josuke have little to no character at all!
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>>151542362
Kira > Dio
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>>151542362
That bait is embarrassing, friend.
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>>151541671
Jolyne's pretty great too. She's like a mix of Joseph and Jotaro that starts off naive.
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>>151537620
1 > 2 > 5 > 7 > 4 > 6 > 8 probably > 3
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>>151542644
Them's fighting words. Part 1 best part because of Dio and Jonathan.
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7 > 4 > 5 > 8 > 2 > 3 > 1
This is the objectively correct tier list of Jojo parts.
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>>151544626
6 is so garbage it doesn't get included.
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>>151539989
Literally all JoJo's fight for justice
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>>151544626
>cripple>engrish>espangrish>4balls>OHNO>yareyare>bestpart

Anon...
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>>151539989
His character is entirely reactionary.
He never really does anything himself, pretty much all of his actions are responses to Dio's actions.
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>>151536319
Bait thread to attract newfags.
now this is neo-/a/
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>>151537620
7>8 so far>3>2>5>4>1>6
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>>151544722
>mfw i saw a jojo video and you are literally saying what they said word for word

I forgot the video but god damn anon stop being a fucking sheep, form your own opinions
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>>151539989
Jonathan isn't a bad jojo, it's just that he's plain in comparison to newer jojos that have more complexities and depth to them. It largely has to do with the fact that Araki's writing has improved vastly since Part 1.
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HE
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I really want to love part 5 but the b&w scans are hard to follow visually and the color scans are full of obnoxious wordart-tier bubble text

Also Narancia's kind of a bitch, does he ever get more likable?
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>>151544859
>HE
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I just think it's such a wasted opportunity each part not having flashbacks and more direct references to the previous parts. DIO's World could be full of Part 1 references for instance, though I'm a sucker for that kind of things
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>>151544766
?
I got that from Araki's own writing about Jonathan.

"Jonathan is passive, reacting to Dio's various attacks, and this leads to him discovering his way of life." -Araki (Vol. 1 of JoJonium)
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>>151544894
pls stop my dick can only handle so much
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>>151544892
>b&w scans are hard to follow visually
they're not
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>>151544967
Ohhhh nvm I remember now it was a character analysis or something and they quoted it I think.

Sorry anon, haven't slept in a while
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>>151540475

Jotaro's crappy one liners are my favorite thing about him. You can tell he wants desperately to be seen as edgy and cool. I'm willing to bet half the shit he told Kakyoin he did was exaggerated.

"Yeah, I totally beat up that teacher for talking smack. Everyone in the class cheered for me too."
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>>151538920
To be fair its pretty damn great. Stand powers for the Rock People are also really cool, especially Vitamin C.
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>>151540475
I fucking love his design in 4 with the white coat.
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>>151537620
literally
7>5>4>6>2>8>3>1 or GTFO
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>>151545024
This. Jotaro is that the equivalent of a kid irl who moved to a new school, and was bullied so hard at his old one that he resolves to make a new image for himself simply by acting the part. It's sad, but it's also kind of cool when he starts living up to it.
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>>151540475
He's bad ass I suppose. He's cool, calm, and rational and the rational part of his personality gets more emphasis in later parts as he's aged. He's great in Part 4, for example.

He grows on you.
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>>151545055
>8 that low
>6 that high

Death upon you and your descendants.
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>>151545127
7>5>4>8(so far)>6>2>3>1

Probe me wrong
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>>151540475
When I first got to part 3, Jotaro was my least favorite JoJo all the way up to nearly the end of part 6. (that's saying something, I fucking hate Giorno as a character, he's bland as shit and has little to no development) However, from parts 3, 4, and 6, you can see an actual change. Jotaro does get more rational and more cold, seemingly, but he lets down his wall gradually.

In part 3, Jotaro barely talks, only saying "Yare yare daze" or talking to the enemy about how he forsaw a trap and made another one or something. The most emotion we get out of him in that part is when he finally loses his cool when he sees Joseph die, and when he smiles on the plane at the picture of the Crusaders. Given, those are both very emotional moments, I honestly teared up at the photo and felt some of Jotaro's rage; I honestly do identify with the guy, I keep most of my emotions inside of me, but sometimes things get too intense and I can't manage that anymore, and that's what happened with him.

In part 4, we see Jotaro actually talk more, actively seeking conversation in some instances, even a little less intimidating in some aspects. In part 6, however, is when this all gets really noticeable.

In part 3, at the beginning at least, Jotaro seems just as, if not more, reactionary than even Jonathan; he sees that his mother is in trouble so he decides "whelp I'm just gonna follow these guys to Egypt." In part 6, he is the opposite, actively trying to help his daughter, and even completely letting go of the emotional barrier at the end of his life and telling Jolyne that he "always cherished her".

That's why I and many people like Jotaro, in my view.
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Just finished part 5, already started reading part 6

4>3>2>5>1 for me right now
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>>151545024
>>151545083
Jotaro's bio actually explains that he isn't really cool, just autistic.
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My personal ranking goes 5>7>4>1>6>2>3. I love 8 so far but it doesn't feel fair to rank it.

Can't you just share opinions and argue like decent people instead of simply putting shit like "probe me wrong xD" and "this is objective" in the end of your post and acting high and mighty about it? Shit posting is fun but this is just retarded.
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>>151545477
>The most emotion we get out of him in that part is when he finally loses his cool when he sees Joseph die, and when he smiles on the plane at the picture of the Crusaders.
I suggest going back and rewatching/rereading SDC and tallying how many times Jotaro smiles or shows emotion.
I did it as a joke and was surprised when realizing he does it about once or twice per episode.
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>>151545513
>Hates women who dont shut up
The best part of his character
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5 and 7 interchangeable >8>4>6>3>2>1
i really wanted to love 6 but some of those battles, jfc they were extreme low parts where even 2 or 1 outshone them
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>>151545612
I said the MOST emotion, not including that kind of thing. Surprise doesn't count as a a major emotion in my opinion, that's the one he shows the most of. Also, most of his smiles are sarcastic or taunting, if you pay attention to the context.
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>>151536319
Poor bait. Japan loves Part 4.

Pretty much Parts 3-4-5 is their holy Jojo trinity.
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>>151545703
Do they not like part 7?
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can someone please explain to me the extreme abundance of jojo bird artwork
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>>151537620
7 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 2
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>>151545702
>"He never shows emotion"
>"Those times where he shows emotion doesn't count"
Besides, even with those rules, there's still a lot of moments where he shows emotion that people don't mention.
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>>151540475
His 'silent and cool' approach comes off as snarky and lame. Part 4 shows that he shines as a support. He also got one of the most powerful stands in the series that eventually becomes bland compared to the later stands, Star Platinum aged like milk. But nothing can be worse than Giorno, who's barely got spotlight in his own Part and acts like a plank of wood in character interactions after the beginning arcs.
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>>151545887
You're right, but you have to admit these kinds of things are rare with him in part 3.
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>>151536319
>most Japanese JoJo part
>Japan hates it
>one of the least Japanese JoJo parts
>Japan loves it

Even Japan hates Japan.
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>>151537306
I'm going to assume Part 5 hits you over the head with its message about playing the shit hand fate deals you regardless of what language you read it in. Nothing like a good old fashioned prosing shonen speech about fate, friendship and willpower.
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>>151545942
Yeah, he shows the least positive emotion out of all the JoJos (except maybe Early-Mid SBR Johnny). That i'll agree with.
But as I said, you'd be surprised how much he does show emotion if you pay close attention.
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>>151536319
pic related on my response
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>>151544722
Well.... Yeah? Dio does something bad and Jonathan checks him. The part would've been infinitely worse if for example, Jonathan was trying to get Dio kicked out from the ages of 15-18 or whatever the graduation/mask scene age was.
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>>151546158
Eh, the major point of my post was that he develops a lot more emotionally throughout the parts than most people think
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>>151546158
Johnny's was kinda more reasonable aside from the same face since he had lived a very shitty life and that caused him to be the negative person that he was during the start of SBR unlike Jotaro whom we didn't know about why he is like that that much.Although I still like Jotaro as much as I love every jojo.
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>>151546424
I know.
I was just pointing out that he isn't actually cold in SDC. He just has trouble expressing himself (See >>151545513)
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>>151546158
Jotaro and Kakyoin definitely fucked after they got done beating that stand user
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>>151546158
>he shows the least positive emotion out of all the JoJos
Giorno only smiles once or twice after he joins the gang. The OP image is the last time he smiles for a while.
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>>151546810
You don't have to smile to show positive emotion.
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>>151537620
>putting 3 anywhere near the top
What the fuck, man? Did you drink the hype koolaid?
It's the goddamn DBZ Namek arc with more midboss villains.
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>>151546958
I'm sorry you autistically compare everything to DBZ
must be a tough life
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>>151536319
>japan has shit taste
>learning this only now
What are you, new?
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>>151536319
They appreciate 1 and 3 as classics, 2 got a new surge of popularity with the anime, 4 is well liked, 5 is the favourite by far, 6 is kind of lukewarm.

I don't know how they feel about 7 and 8 but since they're the two best parts so far I'd hope they like them.
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>>151547006
>you must be autistic to not like the neverending stream of bullshit that happens so that one dude can save his mother

Part three suffers immensely under its pacing. It is popular and is the poster boy for Jojo but really it's not anywhere near the overall series' best.
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>>151547058
SBR is pretty well liked but it was less popular than any other part, including SO.
It's mainly due to it 1. Not originally being a JoJo part, and 2. Transferring from Shonen Jump to Ultra Jump in the middle of publication.

JJL is surprisingly popular and well liked.
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>>151546958
There is literally nothing wrong with the Namek arc and neither is there anything objectively wrong with Part 3.
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>>151547236
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>>151547202
Wasn't it also because for the first 6 months of SBR it wasn't confirmed to be part 7? That might explain why it flew under everyone's radar.
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>>151547320
>Wasn't it also because for the first 6 months of SBR it wasn't confirmed to be part 7?
Reread my first point.
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>>151547098
>let me poorly sum up the entire plot of part 3
>let me complain about pacing in a shounen adventure
>a 16 volume shounen adventure

You're just being autistic now. No one here is going to think you're cool.
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>>151545887
>""
It's almost like you have no idea how greentexting works
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>>151548591
It's almost like the jojo fanbase is full of newfags these days.
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>>151536319
Might be the case, but it's still infinitely better than Stardust Crusaders' endless slog.
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>>151544892
Scans are just shit in general. It sounds stupid but actually reading physical printed copies of the manga makes a world of difference.
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>>151545766
They like every Part but 3-4-5 are the most popular. 1 is liked because it's classic though generally agreed to be kind of weak, 2 is pretty well liked, 3 is the most popular and well known and 4 and 5 are just behind 3 in terms of popularity. 6 marked Araki's start at trying to write for an older audience but he thought it was a good idea to keep publishing in Weekly Shonen Jump so after a couple of chapters when people realised it wasn't going to be the same as 3-4-5 a lot of people dropped it and the series started losing popularity because it was being published in a magazine that the people Araki was writing for don't actually buy. Part 7 continued the trend but because it wasn't actually Part 7 to begin with and rather it's own series even less people read it and eventually it got moved to Ultra Jump which is what Araki should have done from the start of 6 but by then the damage was done and most of the series popularity had waned. 6 and 7 are still well liked by the people that read them it's just that a lot less people did read them. Part 8 is back up in sales and readership though, partially due to winning awards and the anime reigniting people's interest in the series.
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>>151537620
2 > 3 > 1 > 4

I'm anime only pleb tho.
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>>151549790
They did a great job adapting 2 tbqh, it was mediocre as fuck in the manga.
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Avdol is the ultimate and best BroJo.
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>>151550965
Mista is better
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>>151546958
part 3 was great if you're not purely looking for plot advancement
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>>151550965
That's Gyro
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>>151550965
All that nigga did was die....twice
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>>151545513
>aquarius
>usual symbol for aquarius is dolphins

jesus
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>>151537620
1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8
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7>8(so far)>4>2>5>6>1>3

How shit is my taste?
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>>151537620
>>151545055
>>151555094
Why the hell are you guys putting 8 so low, hell why are you even rating an finished part.
7>4>5>6>2>1>3
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How can anything be worse than the vapid fight-of-the-week bullshit that Part 3 is?
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>>151537620
4 > 2 > 7 > 5 > 3 > 1

Y'all niggas are gay
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>>151537620
7>1>6>5>3>2=4
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You can instantly dismiss anyone who ranks 2 near the bottom and 1 toward the top. 1 is generic and has just about zero strengths. 2 has Joseph.
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>>151556410
If you Take Joseph away what is part 2
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please can we not make 9 jojo threads shitting up the front page
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>>151539201
Part 5 is infinitely more entertaining than Part 6, only Part 6's ending is even worth reading.
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>>151539989
I'm sure if Jonathan didn't die then and there and we got to see, say, Part 4's length of exposition for him, he would have been much more interesting during the downtime and would have shown a lot more of the nuances we got to see from Jotaro for example (who was also initially very flat).
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1 = 2 = 4 = 5 = 6 = 7 = 8
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>>151545688
I want to hug you
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>>151556410
Part 1 had great character relations and values,unfortunately Araki didn't have the ability at the time to fully explore them.Too many filler battles and cheesy writing,but the potential was there,and some of it showed,which was enough to make it a great part.
Then part 7 happened and was basically everything part 1 did but better,and it became the greatest Jojo part as of yet.
Part 2 was fun, Joseph is a 10/10 protag,a few other great characters too like Wamuu and Stroheim,but the writting was not the best and the story ultimately amounts to very little.It's extremely good,mindless fun,but weak compared to the others.
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>>151549916
What. No.
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>>151550965
Piccolo ass
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>>151554902
>>aquarius
>>usual symbol for aquarius is dolphins
No. The animal that represents Aquarius is the Tardigrade (or water bear).
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>>151537306
So how many poop references, literal poops and poop jokes appear in this one?
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Part 4 was my favorite but i feel like i don't really like it anymore, maybe because of the anime? I don't remember manga being so bad. I hope they don't fuck up part 5 and it will have good budget
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>>151557398
Part 4 was actually pretty slow and dragged on for the majority of it, it's just that you have so much fun experiencing that for the first time that you don't notice the bad pacing until the second or third time. The anime actually fixed that imo.

Part 5 is exciting from start to finish with little to no time wasted, the anime (and subsequent translation coming from it) will definitely accentuate that for western viewers when it starts airing.
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>>151537620
Objective here:
7>3>2>1>vomit>the bible>dogshit>>>>>4
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