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Flip Flappers

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This is an Asclepius thread, only cool girls are allowed in here. Only two days left until the finale.
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nyunyu is a cool girl
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There will be no preview tomorrow, I guarantee it.
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>>151468030
>>151469720
Any translation yet?
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>only cool girls
All I see are bad girls with foul mouths that need to be punished.
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I want to engage in sexual intercourse with Yuyu and impregnate her. Is this normal?
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>>151470995
Pick your poison.

>>151471848
I love how everyone has given up on today having a PV.

>>151472052
Just use Google translator like everyone else.
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>>151471542
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Shamelessly posting my ms paint crayon tool card submission again.
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I don't even know what I'm going to do with myself once this shit is all over.
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>>151472326
Buy the BDs.
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>>151472326
You go adventuring with me
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>>151472315
it's cute!
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>>151471855
See, I really like this one, but
>all current partaking female's breasts are no larger than A cups
has yet to be corrected.
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>>151472326
Me neither.
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>>151472366
Emphasis on the
>current partaking
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>>151472355
c-can i join in too? not like i want to or anything
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>>151472326
Talk shit about this show.
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>>151472355
Where to? Pure Pretend?
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Decided to search for Flip Flappers on CDJapan and found this shit. Are these niggas serious? I've never seen the limited edition sell out before the release date. Amazon and other stores seem to still have it. I was wondering whether to buy from Amazon or Infinite set based on the last episode, but if there's a chance that limited edition sells out, I may need to buy it ASAP.
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>>151472349
and where exactly can i buy those BDs friend
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>>151472404
Papika is still partaking in the events of the show.
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>>151472440
But she's not exactly the cowtits Mimi's best buddy Papika, is she?
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>>151472460
>cowtits

papidyke's aren't even that big
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>>151472197
>using font
>not drawing by hand and scanning
are subbers even trying
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I think I'm in love
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Make a card as you wait for the final episode

We're making a thank you image! The card will be a collection of images into one big image sent to them via Twitter using imgur. The due date for submissions is 12/30/16 at 9:00 am pst. Send all images to [email protected]

>Dimensions
600 by 600 pixels
>Why not here? it's an imageboard after all. we'd just have to reply your post.
Its hard trying to shitpost 24/7 to have to go around collecting images
>Why not real postcards? I want to send one. But there needs to be a campaign for it to mean something.
I'm not sure how this would be accomplished so I'm limiting it to digital.
>Who are we sending it to?
@binobinobi the directors twitter
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>>151472429
Cdjapans first press vol.1's sold out way before any of the other distributors, i was lucky enough to get AmiAmi's one though, i think they're also out as well now.
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https://nizista.com/views/article2?id=9c882220c7f211e6acc5c58a6329f4a5
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>>151472326
I'm gonna bitch and shitpost about it for about 2 weeks, usually that's how long my post show depression lasts.
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any new cards come in cardfag?
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>>151472501
Quickly, have your way with her.
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>>151472501
Could be Sayuris daughter.
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>>151472543

So she's basically a real-life Cocona?
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>>151472615
Sayuri isn't that old.
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>>151472625
>she even has the hair hook
Perfection.
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>>151472625
>性格は正反対
Did you even read the title?
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>>151472697
Translate it, weebs.
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>spend 12 weeks counting the days until the next episode in excitement
>now I'm spending the last one counting the days in fear because the last episode killed most of hope for a satisfying finale but not enough for me to stop caring
Great.
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Why do people like this show again?
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>>151472786
who knows
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>>151472783
Are you me?
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>>151472783
I know right? Specially aggregating because it wasn't just good or great, it's extraordinarily wonderful and engaging. A good series having a weak ending is bad, but when something you thought would be that one special title turns to be a letdown, that's entirely different.
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>>151471542
>only two days
>only
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>people are literally working themselves to death so ~80 anons can watch their chinese cartoons
>no one will buy the BD's, because the ending will inevitably suck
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>>151472783
>>151472825
>>151472880
Not really sure what kind of ending you think you should be getting at this point that wont satisfy you. Out of the 2-3 most plausible endings it could take i'd be satisfied with any..
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>>151472902
Lets make a suicide pact and enter PI together.
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>>151472933
BDs are literally selling out everywhere, where have you been?
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>Cockona
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>>151472933
I'd have legitimately bought the first 9 episodes if it weren't for medical bills, what shitty timing.
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>>151472940
I'd be satisfied with neither. But that really depends on execution.
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>>151472940
>Not really sure what kind of ending you think you should be getting at this point
A well executed one. Something the last episode was not.
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>>151472959
What?
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>>151472940
The pacing is going to be horrible, we will get Papikana deaging explained (this can be good) and then we'll have a dramatic goodbye between Cocona and Papika only for any dramatic tension to shatter when Papika returns at the end because muh power of love. Nyunyu won't do anything useful, Toto and Yuyu are literal whos and we won't get a montage of the cast members future. And no kissu either but who is surprised at this point. Iroha won't contribute to the ending either.
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>>151472940
It's not about the kind of ending, it's about if it can wrap up all the loose ends.
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>>151472959
Is there a reason not to buy from infinite?
Looks like they're still available there.
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>>151472952
As if you won't just pussy out at the last second.
I know I will
I mean, what if there's a second season?
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>>151473090
they only ship withing japan, need to use a proxy which costs extra
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I don't know what to do for the card.
What if I accidentally copy someone?
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>>151473023
>>151473068
>>151473071
I suppose earlier episodes raised expectations a little too high for some people then i guess? At least i'm still confident i'll be a Yayaka level smug by the end though.
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>>151473131
draw less popular characters like salto
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>>151473182
It's like watching the Titanic be on its majestic way and then suddenly writer change and iceberg sinks it.
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>>151473104
It's been a while since I ordered anything from japan, but I'm pretty sure there are proxy services that charge a low flat fee. can't be more than a few hundred yen.

But there are probably people that download anime from burger king's free wifi because internet 'costs extra'
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>>151473218
really feeling that iceberg
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>>151472429
is there anything different between the first press edition and the regular one? does it have extra content or something
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>>151473131
Take a picture of the sodium vapor lamps outside your window.

If someone else submits a picture of the same lamps, then find them. it's true love.
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>>151473218
The Titanic is remembered today because of it's tragic end. Flip Flappers won't be remembered tomorrow, because of it's poor ending.
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>>151473330
>it's true love.
Alternatively, ask your mom if she has a friend of the same age who is unmarried and has strikingly canine features.
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>>151473330
Just responding to say, this comment made me laugh pretty hard.

Thanks anon.
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>>151473330
We use LEDs around here. I'll never find true love.
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Who the fuck names their son Salt?
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Reminder the final episode will be a masterpiece cementing this as GOAT. The sales will boom in japan following the amazing final episode as people realize how much they love the story and characters.

This will lead to a Flipflappers movie that focuses on the year Mimi and Papika spend on the run.\

All you need to do is believe anons.
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>>151473394
This totally not insane gentleman.
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>>151473453
He was sane when Salt was born.
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>>151473416
Fucking hell, anon.
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>>151473470
I'm going to delete it.
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>>151473452
Reminder that as of december 21st, they didn't even know how to end the story.
>There are plenty of alternatives for 13's story.
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>>151473453
He was sane until Mimi and Papikana went into his mind and scrambled stuff around.
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>>151473520
>Reminder that as of december 21st, they didn't even know how to end the story
What?
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>>151473520
That's impossible. Storyboards are finished weeks before airing of the episode, if Shirobako is to be believed.
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>>151473467
>>151473527
>experimenting on orphans killing most of them in the process and using himself as a test subject for a totally new technology
>sane
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>>151473452
>All you need to do is believe anons.
No.
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>>151473498
4chanx and inspect element have immortalized you.
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>>151473563
He was "evil", but he wasn't insane. He was perfectly solid.
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>>151473743
I guess you could say he had a sound mind.
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>>151473768
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>>151473743
>all Mami and Papika did was removing societal conditioning, which tormented him every night as he thought of the test subjects who died
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>>151473743
>He was perfectly solid.
But was he amorphous?
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>>151473416
>>151473768
>>151473936
This is as bad as that one fuck quest thread.
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>>151473863
I don't know, I read it as a more fundamental change.

I'd say that he probably had to have been pretty amoral and empty before, but his perceptions and judgements usually lined up with reality pretty well. After the change he was caught up in delusional thinking and really nonsensical stuff.

Like there's a difference between a politically motivated terrorist group or organized crime group and the cult that killed themselves to send their souls up onto a comet, even though both are operating far outside the bounds of acceptable moral behavior.
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>>151473993
His connection to reality may well have always been as weak as the sense of guilt, because otherwise it's not clear how Mimi and Papika did this much damage to his sanity. Though it's impossible to tell so far.
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>>151472512
How much will they get shrinked?
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>>151474330
Why would they? The link will have the full sized image
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AND SO HAVE I
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>>151474679
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>>151474451
Oh, I thought they were all being squished into a big picture.
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>>151472512
Would he know what PPK means?
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>>151475020
It's not that hard to infer..
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>>151474679
NO IT HASN'T, YOU PIECE OF SHIT. I WILL CUT YOU.
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>>151475020
>tl note: PPK means papika
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>>151475020
Wasn't she sometimes called Papica?
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Apparently no PV today. Not that anyone was still expecting it.
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How much QUALITY and stills are you expecting for the final episode?
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>>151475202
We'll be lucky to get an episode on time
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>>151475202
There hasn't been a Tuesday PV for two weeks, I think we've learned out lesson, 36 IPs and no hype.
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>>151475219
It will be pure audio.
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>>151475219
Pure audio.
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>>151475202
source on that?

>>151475220
Its going to be a master piece, they have been animating this episode around the clock. Have faith anon.
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>>151475220
>Oshiyama and studio 3hz would like to apologize but due to budget and schedule issues the final episode can't be aired, hopefully they can get a slot somewhere in April
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>>151475258
>source on that?
flipflappers.com used to release one around this time.
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>>151475258
>source on that?
it's 5:30 and there's no PV you mong
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>>151475280
ah true, I assumed there had been something said on twitter
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Hopefully they've finished animating the storyboards in time for tomorrow's preview.
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>>151472512
Sent mine.

Please everyone else get involved. Even two minutes in paint will make all the difference.
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>>151471542
We've had some good discussions in these threads
>freud's psychological analysis of sexuality
>symbolism 101: fetility rites

Will miss you guys
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>100+ replies
>37 IPs

we're basically a small group of close friends by now, r-right?
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>>151475817
No. I hate all of you.
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>>151475817
Do you know that one guy that stays until 5 am even though the party is long over? That's who we are.
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>>151475817
I have a smaller closer group of friends.
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>>151475853
You saved my reaction image, that means we're friends now.
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>>151475817
you've always been my friend anon
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>>151475817
The word you are looking for is circlejerk. Luckily we aren't at "I want to fuck X" levels yet
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>>151475971
what can I say, it's a good anime, and it's dense enough that there's a lot of stuff that most viewers won't pick up on, so you gain a lot by sharing your observations.
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>>151475971
I've been saying I want Mimi to fuck me for weeks, though.
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>>151475971
Cockona is just as bad if not worse.
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>>151476018
yeah I'm personally here for discussion with actual content rather than that shit. but this is /a/, so it's not like I'm gonna be surprised that that shit's here too.
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I want to
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Please stop putting Papika faces on /v/'s catalog.
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Does anyone have the tongue template for reference?
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>>151475971
>>151476073
It doesn't matter, it's all gonna be over in 2 days.
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>>151476080
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>>151476067
BE Cocona?
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>>151476067
self-insert as Cocona and fap to Papika.
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>>151476095
Thanks
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>>151476089
I get a feeling we'll be getting these reaction faces for a while to come.
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>>151476067
fall asleep until Thursday arrives.
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>>151476067
I want to push my finger into Cocona's puckering butthole.
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>>151476108
There are here to stay, anon. At least Papika acquired meme-tier status, like Chaika.
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>>151471601
>will never have doujins
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>>151476173
It looks like she's sitting on a pink ball.
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>>151476207
It's a butt plug
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>>151472429
>Series is flopping
>First press sold out

??????????
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>>151476277
>mfw I was going to post this same response
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>>151476173
Nyunyu is important. IMPORTANT.
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>>151472430
Amazon. Get it shipped.
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>>151476289
It's not too late to cancel preorders.
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Discuss

** 1,833 of / ** 1,630 of (***, 621 pt) [*, * 13 Reserved] 2017/01/06 Flip Flapper's 1 [Blu-ray]
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>>151472512
Just sent mine which was made in 15 minutes. Hopefully it went through.
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1-12 stream poll results.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11944672/r

Decision was for a 4PM EST / 9PM GMT time.

Stream will take place on a ustream channel. I'll try to create the new thread closest to the time of the stream. Channel will be linked there.

Here's a countdown to the time of the stream:
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20161228T21&p0=%3A&msg=Flip+Flappers+1-12+%2Fa%2F+stream&font=slab

Won't be here for the next few hours but feel free to reply to this post. I'll be around later to discuss any suggestions and other details such as bathroom breaks if people want to have them, etc.
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>>151476448
Thanks anon.
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>>151476485
Gods work, anon.

>>151476434
You should only watch popular shows made by big studios, because those are clearly superior to what we got here. The masses always know best.
And I still don't understand what these numbers mean. I know what they say, but what does it MEAN?
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>>151476532
Ranking 1833 at Amazon. Only 621 preorder.
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>>151476485
Great, I will actually be able to watch it. Starts at 0 o'clock in my time zone, so it will finish in about time I'll want to go to sleep. I suggest 15 minutes break in the middle.
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>>151476485
>Dead middle of the night
Tch.
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>>151476588
Don't most sales come from other sources though?

Also, don't shows only need to sell something like 2000 units to be considered a success
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>>151476485
>starts at 5am
geh
Just make the damn ustream already. And I'd recommend a break every three or four episodes, just a short 10-15 minute one
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>>151476485
I'm just curious if you'll stream HS or GJM subs.
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>>151476931
>starts at 5am
You're not alone. It has to be the worst timezone on earth.
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>>151476318
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>>151477023
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>>151477001
>>151476931

I mean you will miss a few episodes but you can still catch everyone's favourite episodes, 9/10/11/12 if you get up at like 7am
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>>151477019
That must be a big cock.
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>>151477047
Too dumb for timezones.
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>>151477052
>get up at 7am
I'll just stock up on chemicals and pull an all-nighter.
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>>151477052
9 was actually among the best episodes of the FliFla
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>>151477090
COCONA!
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>>151477090
It was.
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>>151477090
Damn right.
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can someone scan the 6 page interview of oshiyama and kojima of the latest megami magazine?
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>>151477001
At least we get Mogra at a reasonable time every month, but every other stream either requires me to wake up at some ungodly hour or stay up way too late
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>>151477090

Thief Yayaka is most probably the strongest Flip Flap. Only Mimi has the chance to defeat her.
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>>151477256
>Thief Yayaka is most probably the strongest Flip Flap.
you mean Nyunyu
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>>151477256
>Thief Yayaka
>Papika steals her girlfriend
Pottery.
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>>151476808
3500 ish something is the break even point called the "Manabi Line" from that one anime that said they broke even with that amount of sales.
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>>151477382
If only we had a Peter Pan ending where Yayaka wins the Coconabowl in the long run, I'd never ask God for anything else.
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>>151477361
You can't prove that, Nyu hasn't done anything yet.
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>>151477395
As much as I love her hot loli asscrack I really don't understand why they even added her
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>>151477386
>Manabi line
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>>151477391
Pretty sure that's one of the 3 plausible endings
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Pv when?
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ustream is such a clunky site. I feel like my grandma trying to operate her digital TV.
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>>151477424
>PreVIEW
>Pure Audio
They have nothing to show, we have nothing to see.
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>>151477409
No way we aren't that old yet. We can't be reminiscing about the term.

Stalker threads still use them right?
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>>151477414
I don't see even 1% chance of the Peter Pan ending sticking. Papika will just reappear at the very last minute.
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>>151477440
>Eva still did it first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgY7wdR66k0#t=3m46s
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>>151477483
I know. It wouldn't be a complete rip-off without that.
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>>151475971
I read everything but dont post
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>>151477361

>literally 3 seconds in
>Nyunyu gets immediately disarmed by Punished Yayaka

What's she gonna do, fight with a life preserver?
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>>151477715
If she ever meets Cocona, Cocona will like her more than Yayaka.
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>>151477715
She looks chuu2 as fuck.
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>everyone thought there was going to be Made in Abyss levels of horror and suffering down the line
>turns out she's just an angsty little bitch
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>>151477799
Looks more like Harlock.
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>>151477847
I'm a bit disappointed desu.
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>>151477874
No one in this series is remotely cool enough to be Harlock. Retard chuuni with a fat butt is a far more reasonable goal.
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Since episode 12 and episode 13 are the ones where Cocona burns the witch/Mimi, isn't it possible that Bu-chan will be the swan who brings Cocona and Papika back to the real world? He's depicted with duck features right as the final shot of the ED scrolls by. And we've seen in the preview that MUSCLE Bu-chan will show up inside PI.
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>>151477930
Don't forget Uex, he's shown rescuing Yayaka.
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>>151472783
You're a faggot because Ep 12 was great
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>>151477917
Thank you for reminding me
Jesus christ Rikka's butt was absolutely legendary
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>>151473520
You shouldn't rely on google translate to understand what people are saying
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>>151477984
woop woop
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>>151475817
That is what happens if retards need continuous threads because they can't exist outside of generals.
At this point there's nothing to discuss, the pv is one day and the episode two days away.
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I ditched my childhood friend who comes to my city on 29th (he does it twice a year) because FliFla airing finale will happen only once. Also, childhood friend never wins. It's all his fault
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>>151478311
Great decision.
Chances are that you will hate Flip Flappers forever.
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>>151478311
I'm in a similar situation, my mother comes to visit the home country first time in a year. I guess I'll have to not see her in at least a day.
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Interview with Cocona's VA

https://nizista.com/views/article2?id=9c882220c7f211e6acc5c58a6329f4a5

This one is mostly about how the VA relates to Cocona's character and what she thinks of her. She basically says she isn't like Cocona at all. At the bottom though it says in part 2 of the interview they will talk about the final episode so might get something interesting there.
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>>151478311

I'd be a little mad if I were that childhood friend anon. Hopefully you told them why in a nice manner.
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>>151478311
>I'm sorry Yayaka, I'm really busy today. Let's meet some other time, okay?
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Is there something wrong with Megami magazine? People seem to be embarrassed to buy it.
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>>151471542
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>>151478311
You've got a correct answer out.

And you'd go down as hell on 29th, because you'll find yourself that there's no chance of the next episode.
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>>151478543
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>>151478564
>This will never be animated
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>>151476599
>>151476931
Would you guys prefer two 10 minutes breaks (every 4 episodes) or three 5 minutes breaks (every 3 episodes). Or is 5 minutes too little?

For the second anon, is there any reason you want the channel right now? It is done and has been for a few days for testing purposes. The only reason I haven't been sharing the link is that while I know from browsing the archives that ustream seems to be a mostly safe options, I don't wanna risk anything.

>>151476629
>>151477001
>>151476931
Sorry to hear that. No time can be the best for everyone.

>>151476960
Unsure if you're the same anon that asked this last time, but having downloaded and watched episode 1 from GJM/DDY, I still decided to go for HS. Personally prefer their script and, while there's something to be said about timing, typesetting is serviceable and the show isn't heavy on elements where it would make a difference. (i.e. signs)
I reckon it's also the version most people here have been using to watch the episodes so far.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30207350
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>>151478543
please take a picture of the director/character designer interview pages
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>>151478617
>two 10 minutes breaks
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>>151478617
Regarding the subs, I'm not the same anon. I was just wondering because GJM's version has a higher video quality but I'm not sure if that matters over ustream.
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>>151478564
is there a character reference sheet for what she's wearing in this poster? i want to see what her outfit looks like
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>>151478681
>>151478715
They're images from 2ch not my magazine.
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>>151478543
i can see part of the interview at the bottom mentioning the gradient on their legs
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>>151478617
I think you should split it not in equal time, but thematically.
1-5, 10 minute break, 6-9, 5 minute break, 10-12
So you'll have wackiness, then shit gets real, then Mimi arc. Each new section will get progressively shorter which thematically works for building up the feeling of urgency.
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>>151478543
maybe because she's on the cover?
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>>151478709
I kind of doubt the difference would be significant, yes.

>>151478696
>>151478772
Sounds like a good idea to split them up thematically. Anyone who would prefer the 5 minutes break to be larger?
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>>151478772
>>151478881
I just want to have a piss and make some tea. No need to go full autism about it.
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>>151478564
YAYAKAT
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>>151478867
she's horny hot tho.
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KKK runes meant nothing in the end
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>>151478894
>No need to go full autism about it.
Where do you think you are?
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>>151478976
Why would they even mean something?
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>>151479025
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>>151478681
There was this part of the director interview posted in the previous thread by the way if you didn't see it.
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>>151478311
You're a faggot. You could watch it a few hours late and it'd be the same.
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>>151478453
>She basically says she isn't like Cocona at all.
Disgusting
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>>151478032
But it's perfect to get (You)'s from the anxious crowd.
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>>151478311
You should've watched it together with your childhood friend.
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>>151478453
>VA isn't actually the character
Shocking truth
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How do I even handle a girl this cute?
I can't tell if I want to adopt, fuck or be Cocona.
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>>151479183
Mimi can do all three.
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>>151479183
protect, caress, befriend
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>>151479197
Mimi is a pure heterosexual girl that just wants to protect her daughter from the sinfull influence of Papika and Yayaka
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>>151479149
nah, nevertheless friends are precious, but you know, some pieces should be appreciated when you alone. especially they would be touching and you don't want to be seen your bursting into tears to your friends.
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>>151479183
I want to be her and to marry her.
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>>151479285
>Steve, I'm really feeling that writer change...
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>>151472052
>>151479082
>「"I don't get what its appeal is, but I end up >watching" are the highest words of praise.」
>Director Oshiyama Kiyotaka
>Interview
>A challenge toward hard to understand topics
>A tentative directorial debut

>----First, could you tell us the details of how you got involved in this project?
>Oshiyama: It started with my meeting with 3HZ's current company director Matsuka (Yuichirou) san and [can't read the name], who is currently serving as a producer. The two of them said, when we were on Kinema Citrus, "Let's work together", but the plans from that time never came to fruition, and afterwards they left Kinema Citrus and [cut]

>we were wondering if [cut] isn't done, then the viewers's desire for more wouldn't continue. For the first half, we tried to bring each episode to a close with a happy end, then create a hook in the C part, connecting it to the next episode. The talks about having that sort of structure were had at the very first stages.

>-----There's also a lot of effort put into the battles and action parts
>Oshiyama: Since I'm an unknown name, I wanted to make a work that stood out even if just a little from the many works out there (laugh). My career has been mostly as an animator, and I'm almost an amateur when it comes to directing so "with animation [cut]

>>151478894
Well, I'll do it as that anon suggested then. Guess the autism can't be helped and I did like the suggestion.
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>>151479183
>Adopt Papika
>Become Cocona
>Fuck Yayaka
That's my plan personally.
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>>151479183
I want to be boo-chan and watch them over forever. They would think I'm a perv-bot but I'd be happy because I'm the only one who doesn't mess all of relationships but can be watching them even in PI all along.
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>>151479356
That middle sentence seems like it could be much more interesting in context. I mean it is interesting already to know that they stuck all the connecting plot in the C-part on purpose in the first half because you can very much see that is the case. There was cliffhanger after cliffhanger.
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>>151479356
guess someone else already tried translating it

>"'I don't know what's so interesting about this but I end up watching it anyway' is the highest form of praise"
> director oshiyama kiyotaka interview
> a first-time director challenging a difficult to understand theme
> Q: first of all give us the story on how you were first engaged in this work.
> Oshiyama: my first motive was when I met 3Hz's representative director Matsuka (Yuichiro) and current production desk, Kubo (Hideaki). When the two left Kinema Citrus they had a project plan and said to me "lets work together," but eventually that didn't work out.
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>>151479511
I checked. Before Papika calling Cocona "Mimi", there were only two episodes with an actual real C part. Ep1 had the robot capture and ep3 had Cocona coming home late.
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>>151478237
PULL OVER
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>>151475817
some of the Previous threads had about ~150.

Most people likely are gone now until the next episode airs.
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>>151479664
Episode 6 had one too.
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>>151479372
patrician taste.
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>>151479356
>I'm almost an amateur when it comes to directing
You don't say
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>>151479692
Depends on the definiton I guess. Iroha showing off her nails was before the ED. And after that it went straight to the PV.
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>>151479735
Oh. Its structure was so like what I would expect of a C part that I actually thought it had been after the ED.
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>>151478311
Heh, my friend's birthday is on Thursday
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>>151479702
The image you're referencing is actually the fault of the writer. The director didn't have the cultural acumen of it being controversial in western audiences.
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>>151479831
I don't think cradle robbing is an exclusively western more, man. Even Japan has age of consent
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>>151479857
It's not cradle robbing though.
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>>151479702
This has literally nothing to do with directing though
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>>151479876
More like womb-robbing, really.
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>>151479857
Yes 14. How old is Cocona again?
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>>151479831
I can't find any problem on that pic related. why people are having issues with it?
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>>151479888
Sounds like a fairly purest form of love to me.
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>>151479918
Because yurifags still believe that it's romantic love
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>>151479926
Cute yuri brood parasites doing cute things
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>>151479918

People are struggling to figure out Papika's love either takes multiple forms or is not romantic.

If it is romantic then loving someone since their birth is weird.
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>>151479702
It's platonic love, not romantic/sexual so it's completely fine. Yurifags please leave, the only canon relationship in the series is a hetero one.
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>>151476485
Wait a minute, we're watching it after ep 13? I thought it would be before that.
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>>151479949
Stream is tomorrow, finale is thursday
We're rewatching it all one day before it ends.
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>>151479949
Final episode is on the 29th anon
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>>151479927
>>151479943
even It was romantic love, why shouldn't Papi love her from when she's born? It isn't incest or something, biologically.
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>>151479974
Because toddler-con is very weird
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>>151479974
Something about a lesbian toddlercon Hikaru Genji strikes me as a little odd.
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>>151479857
stop protecting your baka gaijin puritan morals
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>>151480017
>>151480021
Maybe Papi's first love was some kindo maternity, but affection itself is variable nature. to top it off, Papika said (when talking with Salto), she's Papika, not Papikana.
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>>151480160
Needs a tongue edit.
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>>151480160
>Papika said (when talking with Salto), she's Papika, not Papikana.
Papika isn't significantly different from Papikana.
It's only a change in name
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>>151480214
Papika self-identifies as Papika and rejects the Papikana identity. Check your privilege and respect her choice.
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>>151480234
Same Ousia
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Nori wrap on nori wrap, Mimi think I stank
I got a low cut mahou shoujo suit, my homies think it's dank
I miss my Co-co-co-na kisses
I miss my Co-co-co-na kisses
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WHO'S THE OTHER HALF OF DIRECT DRIVE
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>>151480278
Yayaka's mom.
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>>151480160
That pic related reminds me of Marie x Samson in Nadia.
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>>151480234
Same Ousia, same hypostasis
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>>151480278
Mimi
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>>151480278
Nyunyu, just wait and see, she will be useful.
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Why could Cocona enter PI? Was it the shard which should be gone now or is it inherited?
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>>151480321
Did Marie x Samson have a issue like PapiCoco?
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>>151480353
She's Mimi's father.
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>>151480353
Given the way she was able to Henshin without the shard, it's pretty safe to assume it's inherited.
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>>151471542
Last night I had a dream about Cocona and Papika kissing, what does that mean?
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>>151480368
Marie was 5 and Samson was 28 during the series, they got married in the epilogue about 12 years later no problem.
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>>151480433
It meas your brain already made a better ending than we will get.
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>>151480433
You are into bestiality.
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>>151480395
She always had the shard inside her.
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>>151480234
How many fucking times have we had this argument?
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>>151480508
I mean when CocoPaps had a shotgun wedding after Mimi de-activated their shards.
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>>151480535
1?
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>>151480160
>Papika said (when talking with Salto), she's Papika, not Papikana.
Isn't the same as "I'm not Papikana". If a Chinese person goes to Japan, and starts to speak language and live there. And he says "I am (now) Japanese". But even if he lives as Japanese, it doesn't make him Japanese. He just wants to be something that's more convenient to him.

>>151480234
>rejects the Papikana identity.
If she did that, she wouldn't have been able to say she loved Cocona since she was born, because that would mean she doesn't relate to things that happened when she was an adult.
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>>151480395
Either that or it's some power dependent on Cocona and Papika. Maybe even that Direct Drive thing that the show seems to have forgotten about, something independent of Mimi's control over PI.
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>>151480535
Every other thread since episode 10.
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So, when do we get papicoco yuri doujins? after C91 I guess?
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>>151480575
I bet Mimi and Papika were named Direct Drive back in the research center
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>>151480540
I think that's what reaching zero impedance means, Papika doesn't have Mimi genes, but she did it together with Cocona.
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F
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>>151480658
F
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>>151480658
Forgotten by almost everyone including the plot.

F
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>>151480617
That's most likely it, considering Mimi was number 33 and Papikana was number 45.
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>>151480718
Saltdad was into music too it seems.
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Reminder >>151472512

Show some love to a staff that havn't had a good night's sleep in a long while
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Newfag here, did I miss anything by not preordering the Bluray before the 1st printing sold out? And is there a difference between the Bluray and DVD other than the type of disc?

Also why is it only two episodes per disc, surely many more can fit.
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>>151480574
We agreed to disagree but here is the opposite argument:
>wants to be something that's more convenient
This line would serve no plot purpose if it only appeals to convenience and is later shown to be of no consequences.

>wouldn't have been able to say she loved Cocona since she was born
First, focusing on the time when she was born was a misrepresentation by the writer. Second, acknowledging prior identity doesn't mean she adopts the prior identity.
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>>151480826
This argument wouldn't even exist in the first place if Papika got a tiny bit more development/focus.

I'm a total dogfag, but I admit she needed at least half an episode of focusing on how the hell her brain works or something. I'm not saying they had to tell us. The can show us. And they showed plenty! But her mindset is still a little distant to the average viewer.
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Eight episodes in. This show kind of reminds me of Kingdom Hearts except instead of Disney movies it's with anime genres.
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>>151480753
The ELPIS stuff is all reel-to-reel and cassette tape.
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I hope they remember to tell us about Papika's wish she kept secret in ep. 4.
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>>151480690
This is probably one of the things Oshi will talk about at the event after ep 13.
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>>151480917
You still have time to get off that ride.
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>>151480802
The same reason clickbait websites only have two funny pictures per page.
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>>151480802
DVD is probably not in HD.
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>>151480887
I am a fellow dogfag.

I think if they are indeed saving it for ep 13, then its gonna be some big pay off stuff. What I am saying is- stuff like that is usually used to build up a character so that we can have a big pay off later based on that build up. The only reason I can see them holding off on that is if they want to make the reveal of her stuff a "pay off" itself, and everything we were shown so far was just build up to this ultimate "pay off" reveal about what she thinks and how she feels.

The question is, what kind of stuff does she need to be thinking and feeling about to make the reveal of that alone a satisfying payoff?
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>>151481061
I'm thinking of something like Quiet in MSGV
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>>151481008
No, anon doesn't. Anyone who's still watching after 8 eps is here forever, whether they like it or not.
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>>151481061
>The question is, what kind of stuff does she need to be thinking and feeling about to make the reveal of that alone a satisfying payoff?
A reminder that the big twist in Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde's last chapter is that they're the same person
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>>151480924
>vinyl audiophile ruined by casette
Sounds about right
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if they don't release a preview today I say we nuke Japan again
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>>151481061
I don't really see it happening as much as I would like it to. Not enough time to cram everything that needs to happen into a 20 minutes episode (~23 if they hold off the OP and ED I guess).

I'm lowering my expectations for the finale. That's not to say I think it will be bad, but I do think there's a good chance of them not explaining things like AB-chan, or Papika's mindset or whatever.

Most of all I just want Papika and Cocona to stay together at the end since there's absolutely no fucking chance of a sequel, ever, and I can't have them just letting two characters I've completely fallen in love with get fucked over like that.

Yayaka is at least safe and I'm glad for that. I was worried ever since 9 that she would die.
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>>151481186
I'd rather them stay working on the episode and deliver a more finished product instead.
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>>151481168
I actually thought that was what was being revealed episode 6 first watch. I thought Papika and Cocona were just 1 person named Iro.

But then I figured out Iro was just senpai.
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>>151481186
They haven't released a pv tuesday for 3 weeks now
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>>151481209
I dont think AB-chan will be explained, but we will see something about Papika, at the very least her time in the dick tree.
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>>151481186
You should be grateful to get any PV this week.
>inb4 PV is just the same series of story board pics, but with proper colors
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>>151481209
I don't see what has to be explained about AB and Papika's mindset
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>>151481168
Fiction progressed in the last 100 years. Most of the mystery/horror novels of the beginning of the XX century are built around the same "twist" structure, but the twist is usually dull. Among Lovecraft's stories I can recall one or two that weren't completely predictable in that respect.
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>>151481293
>Papika's mindset
What is her wish?
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>>151481265
>colouring a storyboard
>the pv was a bunch of storyboards because of time constraints and not as a stylistic choice
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>>151481265
More like inb4 the actual episode is nothing but the storyboard pics
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>>151477847
>>151477877
That was episode 5. The spooky episode just about right near the middle of the ending theme as well.
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>>151481301
right, at this point in time fiction seems to focused on character interactions and changes over time.

>>151481311

To regain her memories probably.
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>>151481311
That Cocona has a happy and fulfilling life living with her parents. She basically sacrifices herself to alter the world so that Salt and Mimi raises Cocona.
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>>151481186
previews spoil and are cancer
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>>151481311
To save Mimi and be with her and Cocona forever.

It's going to be revealed the reason she didn't say her wish was because she forgot what it actually was until she met Cocona again
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>>151481367
>previews spoil
No anon, you are the cancer.
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>>151481365
>altering the world
Worst type of endings. The absolute trash.
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>>151480718
> The direct-drive engine provides playback for both 33 1/3rd & 45 RPM records with a cast aluminium platter and thick damping mat housed together in a structure that has been engineered for minimum chassis resonance, while skilfully retaining the discreet look that complements today’s listening environments.

heh
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>>151481355
The focus on personal development and progress is probably a good one.

Less so for the obsession with violence, but oh well. Fun things are fun.
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>>151481453
Basically they are each half of a key that allows easy transportation to and from PI?
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>>151481453
>33 and 1/3
>333
>Mimimi
>MeMeMe
Oh fuck I think I cracked the code
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>>151481395
No u.

Previews are for anime with manga/LN originals.

Watching previews for anime originals, before the last episode, no less, is just FUCKING STUPID, like yourself.
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>>151481367
They should be used to moderate expectations without spoiling too much imo. I don't think FF succeeded at this.
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>>151481539
In a show were literally every second of screen time is dense enough to show or hint at the bigger picture, A PV can do nothing but spoil.
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>>151472697
>>性格は正反対
I wonder if this is intentional. Cocona is cold on the outside with her true thirsty feelings suppressed inside. Papika is cheerful on the outside but something is broken in her.
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>>151481367
But they did a pretty goo job with not revealing what's actually important. Except episode 7 when they spoilered most of Papikas.

>>151481365
How can Papika do it? She doesn't have superpowers like Mimi. She also talked about the wish before remembering who Cocona is.

>>151481397
Just like in fucking Evangelion manga.
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>>151481395
Few are as bad as the Magician didn't return, but they are still shit for anything that has a plot. SoL preview is ok.
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>>151480802
>Also why is it only two episodes per disc, surely many more can fit.

One is rental culture. Keeps everybody in business when you have to shuffle through six discs of a series rather than give em a Blu-Ray and peace out for a week. Of course, this standard dates back to more primitive forms of media when you were fucking lucky to fit two episodes of whatever on VHS or Laserdisc or vinyl or whatever.

The other half of it is that the part of the anime fanbase that actually spends money on shit is small and growing smaller. Late night anime airs at fuck-you-o-clock, the fuck kind of money you think they're getting just airing the bitch? So merchandising(and Pachinko) is really where the money is.

And to that end, you ever notice that the median is usually in the 2000-4000 range? With some rare outliers pulling away from the pack into the 10k+ range? You're looking at an industry that cranks out money sinks, with every studio hoping they get that one hit with a voracious fanbase that subsidizes everything that left them in the red.
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I imagine Pure Illusion being the thing an audiophile inagines ehen they close their eyes while listening to some really, really high quality sound equipment. Like the kind where you put a rock on your vinyl gramophone and hear the textured soubd of a pure black emperor or whatever it was.

It's like the synesthetic experience of nearly pure sound.
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>>151481558
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>>151481558
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>>151481601
Go home, Salt, everything is over soon
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>>151481621
I never knew I needed cheshire Yayacat until now
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>>151472625
Oh wow, they even gave her the hair-hook. That's nice work.
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>>151481558
Those mature clothes only reminds me that Papika is an old lady, and cocona not looking back at her only reminds me Papika is gonna die
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I hate how the human brain works. I hate it that I know that at the very best they are going to put out an okay ending and yet I can't just not give a fuck about it, just go about my merry way and enjoy other stuff. No, I just have to be obsessed with this show to unhealthy levels knowing I shouldn't.
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So it's like this?

Surface Self --------------------- Subconscious (Pure Illusion) ----------- Deep PI -------------- Shadow Self
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>>151481582
That makes a lot of sense, money drives everything. Sadly it ends up being bad for the consumer (me) since I can't buy all the episodes legitimately without spending close to 400 USD, including shipping from Japan. I want to support Studio 3hz, but there can't be many fans willing to spend that much.
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>>151481582
>money sinks
Anime is dirt cheap to produce, which is its niche as a medium. It's often cheaper to make an entire cours than to produce a 30 second live action tv commercial. This is why the manfa and LN industries gravitate to anime production as their main resource for television promotion.

There's a reason the manabi line is only like 3k. Many anime can break even just on BD sales alone, but there are countless other merchandizing and licensing income streams that extend the profit margin. It's easy to turn a profit when your expenses are so low, the entire tv series of one piece collectively cost less to produce than the average superbowl commercial.
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>>151481697
Flip Flappers will end with Papika falling into a wormhole, becoming a retarded alien loli.
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>>151481570
>Except episode 7 when they spoilered most of Papikas
You could spin this in their favor by noting that Ep7 is a character study of Cocona, so spoiling the Papikas in advance helps the audience to give some thought about what Cocona is going through instead of just being disoriented by an overdose of Papika.
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>>151481792
>Flip Flappers was a prequel to Sora no Method
Ending salvaged.
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>Lostorage is getting a second season

UGH JUST MAKE A FLIP FLAPPERS TCG ALREADY
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>>151481792
>becoming a retarded alien loli.
So, nothing changes?
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>>151481533
I agree
Want to avoid as many spoilers as possible, it's the final episode after all. Stream anon make sure to open a thread with a link
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>>151481823
I love WIXOSS but I couldn't give less of a shit. Lostorage was a mistake.
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>>151481693
It's just megami and their cancerous insistence that cute girls must always focus on Otaku-kun.
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>>151481823
That should have been obvious from the getgo. Lostorage was set up mainly as a franchise reboot so it was inevitably going to get undeserved sequels. The TCG just needs a commercial, they don't care about BDs or ratings.

If only Ange Vierge could've been so lucky
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>>151481825
To be fair, Papika isn't an alien.
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>>151481621
Did they only photograph the pictures?
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>>151481909
Episode 12 hasn't aired yet anon.
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>>151481909
Maybe.
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>>151481901
didn't the TCG come out after the anime did?
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>>151481749
I think its supposed to go like this:
Welt (the world we all share)---Umwelt (our individual world that's the product of what perceive with our senses and process with our minds)--- Subconcious (Deep PI)
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>>151481558
Sweet jesus, Cocona is a lucky girl
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>>151481923
Yeah, and what a great job they did.
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>>151472197
both are awful, they should have used a single color, like yellow or green, and placed it at the top of the frame for maximum readability.

I fucking hate it when groups get cute with their subs
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>>151482018
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It just occured to me that episode 7 wasn't included in the bossrush, which all but confirms the myriad Papikas weren't a defense trap.
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>>151482052
Yeah I was just hoping to get more of the interviews.
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>>151482052
Puppy eyes are too big. Now I'll feel even sader when she dies in two days.
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>>151482110
5 wasn't either, its probably just that there is nothing to really fight in those ones more than meaning anything.
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>>151482136
>Papika dying
Please don't try to make me hope, we both know she'll be reunited with Cocona five seconds before the episode ends.
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>>151482110
We called it a boss rush, but there were really only 3 defense traps to fight. The bell tower and the room weren't there either.
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>>151482110
>Papika and Yayaka get separated
>but both of them have to deal with like 8 different Coconas
>all of Yayaka's Coconas want her girldick, and it makes Yayaka sweaty as fuck
>all of Papika's Coconas also want her girldick, but she's a lot more innocent and so is just happy LOCing (Loving Every Cocona)
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>>151482188
Vegetable end.
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>>151482188
>episode is nearing its last minute
>Cocona goes to the pipe
>fake out where Cocona thinks she sees Papika, but nobody is there
>Cocona smiles sadly to herself and looks up at the sky
>"We'll meet again, Papika"
>end
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>>151482273
>"We'll meet again, Papika"
Season 2 confirmed.
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>>151482273
Except Papika will do her signature greeting just the scene cuts to black. God, that fucking gimmick pretty much guarantees she lives.
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>>151482195
Welwitschia used the defense trap of 9.
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>>151482304
>season 2 confirmed
>if only there were more sales
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I want to fuck Yayaka sexually!
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Most likely this show will end with all of the budget being used up on a great fight scene plus Puppycock or Yoyocock dying.
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>>151482469
Budget is not even the issue. Schedule is.
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How many AD's? My bet is on at least 16 to top last weeks.
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>>151482463
I want to fuck Yayaka ironically!
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I think I am alone in thining we wont have much of a final fight and that Mimi will just be defeated very quickly and easily by the wedding henshin and that this final episode will mainly be a feeling episode as PI comes tumbling down.

>>151482493
Budget = schedule. You think having more money magically makes a better anime? Its that more money means more animators (AKA- more animation in shorter period of time) and/or more months of pay before due date (AKA- longer schedule).
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>>151482578
That's mean!
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>>151482587
>I think I am alone in thining we wont have much of a final fight
That's literally why episode 12 is mostly fighting, to get it out of the way for a feeling episode.
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I bet Yayaka smells!
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>>151482702
The storyboard seems to hint at a healthy dose of action still.
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>>151482702
yeah, thats exactly how I feel, but a lot of posts seem to be expecting a big fight, hell, even that one poll from yesterday had the Gurren Lagann hype ending as the most voted for ending.

I think if we do get a fight, it will be no longer than 4 minutes, and the rest of the episode will be dedicated to feeling and wrapping stuff up.
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>>151482763
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>>151482702
That thing won't go down without a fight.
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>>151482781
Only one monster remains
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>>151482827
>IBO
No way.
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>>151482885
its gonna be defeated with emotions and a talk down.
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>>151482885
She turned into two gaint skullheads and that's the last boss before DPI third impact
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>>151482963
>salt will have to kiss lizard mimi
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Episode 13 ends with a concert, yay or nay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKRhG7yI28w
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>get PV tommorrow
>Its just a 30 second still image of the pipe house
>no noise except for birds and cicadas
>slowly, a Piano rendition of the OP comes into the audio mix
>cuts out right before the hype sounding portion of the OP
>Cut to white on black title drop
>PURE AUDIO

How would you react?
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>>151483172
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>>151483225
>10000x10000
Was this necessary?
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>>151483172
This kind of panic is pretty amusing
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So, I don't get it. Did they just confirm a generic sad ending or a generic happy ending?
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>>151483304
Generic happy ending.
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>>151483304
They didnt confirm anything. We have no idea how it will end.
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>>151483304
The ending you like the least
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>>151483325
Oh.

Well, I still had a little hype left from all the other shit so this is perfect. Now I get to enjoy the episode without anything clouding me.
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>>151482885
I kind of hate this thing they did with Welwitschia and now Mimi.
>she turns in to an inhuman monster so we can kill her without feeling guilty
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>>151483370
Pure innocence.
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>>151483304
Its gonna be a masterpiece Anon. An ending of the likes we haven't seen since Disappearance. Please look forward to it. Oshiyama will succeed where Yutaka Yamamoto failed- Oshiyama is gonna save anime.
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>>151483225
Is this yours?
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>>151483408
Nah, it's 'the monster inside myself'
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>>151483149
I choose to believe
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>>151483445
>this entire post
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>>151483445
>Oshiyama will succeed where Yutaka Yamamoto failed
So we're definitely not getting one of those, "your waifu died, oh wait no she's alive again" endings.
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I don't know why you guys hate Mimi so much. I kind of relate to her to be honest. We all have some darkness lurking inside, after all...
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>>151483445
>Oshiyama
He already burned down Christmas, next is New Year's Eve, the madman is unstoppable.
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>>151483482
What was disappearance's ending like anyway? Haruhi S1 was the last straight anime I watched before going full yurifag.
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>>151482587
>Budget = schedule. You think having more money magically makes a better anime? Its that more money means more animators (AKA- more animation in shorter period of time) and/or more months of pay before due date (AKA- longer schedule).

This is bullshit. Most animators are paid by the number of drawings they do not by the hour or whatever you are thinking. More animators is more often than not an indication of a project in trouble not one that will be good.
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>>151483531
So you watch maybe three shows a year?
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>>151483523
He saved Christmas though
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Has anyone made a collage of Cocona's hands movements?
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>>151473023
?? But it was.

/a/'s irrational complaints don't even faze me anymore. What are you guys even mad about this time? Cocona didn't find her resolve out of herself? There's nothing wrong with getting a loving parental push. Mimi didn't even convince her to do anything, all she said is that the fear, the hesitancy, the doubt she feels. That's normal. All people feel that way. The choice has always been up to Cocona, she only had to grab the courage to make her decision. Essentially what Mimi said is "I'm there for you, no matter what you choose" which is what every parent says to their child, and what Cocona didn't get the chance to hear before.


P.S. I called it. >>150090243
>Mystery always gets backlash when it unveils itself though. See Kyousougiga, Shingeki no Bahamut, even Danganronpa. I doubt it's going to be different for Flip Flappers.

P.P.S The same will happen for the next original adventure-y/fantastical/mystery anime that /a/ will praise to the heavens for the first 6-7 episodes but then as the story resolves itself. Oh no! Their headcanon they've been masturbating over for weeks didn't come true. Now the show is bad because they're not the director.
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>>151483531
Kyon literally kicks himself for being tsundere, then Yuki gets BTFO.
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>>151483531
Let me put it this way, Disappearance was so fucking good that it made Endless 8 worth putting up with.

It also gave us one of the best introspection scenes in all of anime.

For me, Haruhi is like a 7/10 show. Endless 8 being 5/10. But disappearance is a perfect 10/10. Unfortunately to get the full impact of Disappearance, you have to watch s1 and s2 of haruhi (in chronological order preferably).
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>>151483408
I think they're not going to go that route. Welwitschia was an unsympathetic monster even in her cute form-- Mimi will still be Papika's friend, Cocona's mother, and Salt's lover even in her monster form. Her final defeat will come by someone demonstrating their love for her no matter how fucked up she gets.

How pissed will you be if Salt turns out to be the big hero of the show, who earns everyone a happy end? Me? Not at all.
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>>151475817
It was the middle of the night. There are about 84 IPs now.
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>>151483550
Started with nine this season that promised acceptable subtext levels. Only two held my attention till the end but I plan to catch up on the others. Except Vivid.
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>>151483561
This anon is correct. I still remember the Umineko shit storms despite there literally being nothing wrong with the resolution given.
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>>151483628
>endless 8 worth putting up with
>Haruhi is like a 7/10 show
>Endless 8 being 5/10
>chronological
Keep going anon, I'm sure you can fit more shit taste into one post.
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>>151483550
I'm not that guy but at this point the number of shows that command my attention to watch them all the way through barely reaches 10 annually.
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>>151483561
>Mimi didn't even convince her to do anything
>if Mimi hadn't been there, Cocona wouldn't have done anything
Checkmate.

Stop being such an apologist for this terrible writing.
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>>151483561
Most of the "its complete shit" now because of Mimi talking to Cocona is just one guy. We established that yesterday. The legitimate criticism surrounding this is mostly in that for what was essentially one of the most emotionally important parts of the series the whole scene with Mimi and the reconciliation with Papika felt rather glossed over and rushed. They could have omitted plenty of less important material elsewhere in the episode to give more time to that scene and given it more impact emotionally I think.
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>>151483740
Hi asspull-kun
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>>151483755
>is just one guy. We established that yesterday.
No, you guys pretend it's just one person because that's convenient for you.

And this comes from the person that was actually complaining about it.

>>151483774
Hi.
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NYUNYU
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>>151483755
>We established that yesterda
Not everyone reads all threads
Especially over Christmas
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Tell me, when will Cocona get her glasses back?
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>>151483795
Yeah I was just letting him know in case he thought it was something a lot of people genuinely have a problem with.
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>>151483807
After she marries and settles down with Papika and Yayaka.
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>>151483755
>there was literally an almost equivalent of amount of screentime in Episode 12 devoted to Yayakafagging, as Cocona's resolution, Cocona and Papika's reconciliation and their takedown of the kaiju combined altogether
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>>151483834
It is something a lot of people genuinely have a problem with. Conflating everyone into a single person for the sake of brushing it off doesn't change anything.
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>>151483837
Gee Cocona, how come your mom lets you have two waifus
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>>151483849
The Yayaka stuff was good but the other characters stuff could have been cut down massively and still did its job.

>>151483867
The only potentially different person I have seen criticising that specific aspect in these threads is the guy that talks about "agency" all of the time.
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>>151483849
Add the ep9, almost entirely dedicated to Yayaka, as well as parts of eps 10 and 11
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>>151483878
MIMI DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>151483807
you misunderstood the symbolism anon.

Episode 1 established the glasses as a character trait. She hid behind them whenever she had to make decisions. When she lost her glasses, she made her choices and reacted with the world directly for the first time, and after the experience in PI, she got her glasses back, but they were broken and crooked- she can't hide behind them in the same way again.

Its sort of like Flip Flappers version of getting a hair cut.
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>>151483899
>Conflating everyone into a single person [or two people] for the sake of brushing it off doesn't change anything.
It just makes you look dishonest. Which you are.
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>>151483914
>letting her best friend win half a coconabowl
>letting worst girl win the other half
This angers me more than anything really.
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>>151483930
Fucking crypto-Nisio.
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>>151483902
Jesus she should've just died in episode 9.
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>>151483955
>worst girl
I don't think Mimi won any part of the Cocobowl.
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>>151483981
Maybe that was the plan but they decided against it at the last minute because of Yayaka's popularity.

I mean we already know they making it up as they go along so why not.
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>>151483899
>The only potentially different person I have seen criticising that specific aspect in these threads is the guy that talks about "agency" all of the time.
Weird. I'm not that guy because I've only criticized that scene once in a post, but that sounds like the argument I used.
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>>151483981
No, she should have just stabbed cocona and stole her fragment.
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>>151483509
Absolutely have to have dark in order to have light.
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>>151483981
But she became best girl in ep10. Dying before redemption is truly the worst fate.
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>>151483981
>being this upset that best girl is getting a large amount of screen time

ahaha
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>>151484036
I used the agency argument a few times in legit criticism too
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>tfw flop flappers
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COCONA A SHIT
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>>151483981
Yayaka is the best thing going for Flip Flap, you shut your whore mouth.
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>>151484036
>>151484090
B-b-but it's totally one guy guise

P-please ignore this t-totally legitimate a-argument, Flip F-floppers has n-no flaws at all

O-one guy
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>>151484038
would have been really interesting but it wouldn't have fit the shows themes as much to have her as a villain especially not the main villain. Were the show stretched out to another 4 or so episodes they probably could have given her a midboss roll but it probably wouldn't have worked out that well.
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>>151484123
I still can't decide if I want Cocona or Yuyu to win the Yayakabowl.
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>>151484149
>responding to yourself.
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>>151481753
$400 is just out of the question for me.
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>>151484213
Prove all those posts are mine.
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>>151484194
At this point Sayuri and Nyunyu are the only competitors.
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>>151484179
I was thinking more along the lines of her regretting it almost instantly and starting a redemption arc the very next episode. Meanwhile Papika goes on a revenge Arc. Cocona's "I hate you" arc replaced with "I can't do anything, I am literally cripple now" arc.

The broad character strokes and development would still be the same, it would just be more exciting and tense.
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>>151481753
3hz aren't even on the production committee anyway.
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>>151484225
You don't have to buy all. You can buy just the first four volumes, so everything up to 8.
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>>151484194
I want Nyunyu and Yayaka to live together with Sayuri and be her wives/sex toys.
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>>151484241
you could prove us all wrong easily by screen capping and letting us see the lack of (you)s
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According to this, Flip Flappers has an average of 43.5 key animators per episode (only 2nd to Yuri on Ice) and an average of 4.75 animation directors per episode
https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2016/12/27/anime-craft-weekly-25-decrypting-anime-production/
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>>151484304
Yeah, this was already posted about an hour ago.
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>>151484194
>Salt sacrifices himself
>PapiCoco happily ever after
>Sayuri takes in Yayaka
>S2 is a spin-off about Yayaka going to college and entering into a relationship with Sayuri
Cucks should stick together.
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>>151484296
Now we wait for the inevitable "but it was EDITED!" posts.
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>>151484276
>leaving out 10 and 11 with Cocomimi
Jesus no.
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>>151484368
Nice edit.
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>>151484368
nah, I believe you.

Doesn't mean I dont think you are dick. But I don't believe you are the only one shitting up the threads. The census poll showed that there are at least 10 shitposters here.
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>>151483740
I know your English comprehension is terrible but bear with me.

>She didn't convince her to take a certain path, like go towards Papika.
>She gave her reassuring words, to ease her mind. Something a child hungers for.

These don't contradict. Kids can grow emotionally and mentally when their parents have given them a good foundation that they can draw strength from. When you know you have your parents behind you you will gain a lot of strength to do things by yourself.
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>>151484418
official thread census

http://www.strawpoll.me/11945170
http://www.strawpoll.me/11945170
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>>151484035
>I mean we already know they making it up as they go along so why not.
You're a god damned retard
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>>151484368
>blaming yourself for responding to yourself to kick up more drama

Well, you didn't cover it up. what was your intent?
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>>151484262
I agree that it would be exciting, but I don't think revenge works for Papika and Cocona loosing her agency by Yayaka taking it away wouldn't fit her character arc very well either. I feel that you really would be sacrificing the other two's character arcs to make Yayaka's more interesting by going that route.
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>>151481753
Just buy the American release
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>starting this census shit AGAIN
welp guys, I'm out. Seems like Americans came back from school.
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>>151484462
Fuck off with your retarded polls
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>>151484149
Who are you even trying to imitate there? This post says "Most of the "its complete shit" now" type of posts related to this critcism are one guy and the other says "The only potentially different person I have seen". Nobody said only one poster has a problem with it.
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>>151484494
Will they release in America?
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>>151484559
Already confirmed before the show started airing iirc.
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>>151484418
You have a strange definition of "shitting up the thread" but sure, whatever.

>>151484474
What? Do you know how (You)s work?
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>>151483740
Stop being an egocentric amerifat.

Most cultures don't take the hyper-individualistic "one man against the world" mentality you're displaying here. It's perfectly ok to recognise that there is a balance between individualism and community. In reality we influence and are influenced by the people around us and that is as it should be since it allows each person to benefit from the insight and experience of many others.

I'd say Flip Flappers is pushing Cocona more towards the individual end of that spectrum then is the norm for Japanese culture.
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>>151484559
Sentai licensed it before the beginning of the season. Without a dub, expect it to be out sometime next year.
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>>151484492
I think the revenge arc would give Papika much needed focus and allow us an opportunity to explore how she thinks internally. Cocona's arc would remain pretty much the same regardless, either way she is essentially handicapped and making no choices or has her "agency" taken away as some put it. The only difference is that if she is cripped, it still allows her to communicate and have effective drama introspection. Meanwhile Mimi mindrape/brainwash/"I make all the decisions and possess you now" doesn't allow for that.

Now for the reveal: Episode 11 is my favorite Flip Flappers episode. I feel like I am the minority who loves the shit gets real feeling combined with Mimi drama and reveals and Salt showdowns.

I was basically suggesting a path I think would have been more satisfying to more people besides me- because I actually really like and love love LOVE the direction the show has been heading, the only reservation I have is that the last couple minutes of episode 12 were a bit too rushed for my taste.
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>>151478032
Google translate kind of gives you all the ideas they expressed (sometimes) but it gets absolutely wrong how they fit together.
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>>151484514
>holiday
>not even the time that classes go out
Stay retarded and envious, third worlder.
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>>151484447
That's fine, but what you said earlier was "Mimi didn't even convince her to do anything" when it's factual that had Mimi not been there, we would have hit the bad end dead on.

>>151484600
Holy bat, Strawman.
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>>151484658
Where is this statement even supposed to have been made?

Twitter?
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>>151484597
>What? Do you know how (You)s work?

Yep. A (you) means the linked post is.....you. You greentexted your own posted, shitposting the idea that you were "responding to yourself".

You also responded to that greentext shitpost claiming "Prove all those posts are mine."

Meaning you responded to yourself at least 2 confirmed times, inciting unnecessary drama to give the appearance of conflict where there would have been none.
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>>151483981
Agreed. Normally I wouldn't wish for that, and I appreciate the message of having to balance friends and lovers which they are showing with both generations, but with the way things have turned out Flipflappers would have been a better story if Yayaka had disappeared.
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>>151484716
Those two things don't conflict at all. Mimi didn't convince her to do anything and she wouldn't have done anything had Mimi not been there. Those are perfectly compatible.
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What kind of ending would Flip Flappers have to pull off to create the single biggest shitstorm in anime history?
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>>151484756
>Flipflappers would have been a better story if Yayaka had disappeared.
No, it would've been worse.
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>Nyunyu is going to end her existence being less relevant than the unused character in Kill me Baby.
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>>151484780
It's not popular enough to do that.
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>>151484080
Getting the most screen time is what made her the best girl not the other way around
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>>151484780
Yayaka dies, Papika dies, Cocona does care and hooks up with a boyfriend and has 12 children before graduating high school.
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>>151484780
Everyone dies.
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>>151484780
But somehow dragging AB-chan into this and making Papika the evil girl all along.
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>>151484780
>Get sucked into portal
>Cocona dead on the ground, sprawled out.
>Its the start of episode 1 again, plays out exactly the same as episode one
>Its another bust!
>Nothing we want explained or revealed gets explained or revealed in the episode either.
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>>151484780
Nyunyu suddenly remembers her KKK mission and shoots Papika.
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>>151484740
>Yep. A (you) means the linked post is.....you.
Yes.
>You greentexted your own posted, shitposting the idea that you were "responding to yourself".
No, you messed up. Look back to the pic, my post is the one at the top (obviously) - notice how the reply (next to the post number) says simply the post number that replied to that post, instead of "post number + (You)".
>You also responded to that greentext shitpost claiming "Prove all those posts are mine."
That I did. Notice that that one post DOES have "post number + (You)" in the replies next to the post number.
>Meaning you responded to yourself at least 2 confirmed times, inciting unnecessary drama to give the appearance of conflict where there would have been none.
Not really, you seem to have misread the pic. It happens.
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>>151484772
>>
>ass-pull kun shows up here >>151483482
>thread turns to shitposting shortly thereafter

All according to plan.
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>responding to yourself with >responding to yourself
>people still take it seriously
I love Flip Flappers, but some people here aren't the brightest bulbs in the pack.
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>>151484950
It is sad really, to have nothing better to do than go on the internet to spew hatred about a show you supposedly think is shit but still watch every week.
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>>151484950
I'm not asspull-kun though. Also you act like that was my first post in the thread.
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>>151485046
nothing to talk about besides asspull, sadly
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>>151484880
Nah, What I am saying is that the greentext reply is you (which you just agreed with) and that the reply to that greentext reply (which isn't in your pick, but makes no sense otherwise) is also you. You responded to yourself, then responded to yourself again, in order to create the illusion of conflict.


Pic related. I am claiming this response to your >responding to yourself

Post is also you!

You argued with yourself to create Drama! And I took the bait! At least admit it after you hooked me on your bait for this long!
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>>151484780
A kissu desu. It would be a huge shitstorm, no doubt about it.
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>>151485147
>kissu
>shitstorm
You'd need on-screen scissoring for that.
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>>151485225
Nah, we haven't gotten a non-joke yuri kiss between the main two characters in a series that wasn't branded as yuri, like, ever.

It would make history.
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>>151485060
I got you confused because he started posting just after. You were the guy that thinks people shouldn't be able to like things more than you right?
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>>151483807
Post more 10000x10000 Coconas please.
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>>151484780
>cocona wakes up
>sayuri at her bedside
>"were you dreaming about mom and dad again"
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>>151485332
>Cocona wakes up
>Sayuri next to her
fixed
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>>151485128
I'm going to assume you're not shitposting me and that I suck at explaining myself and do this the economical way.

Either way, I'm dropping out of this conversation now because this isn't on-topic at all.
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There's a lot of autism going on in this thread.
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>>151485357
>Sayuri next to me
Fixed eternally.
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>>151485318
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>>151485382
I think he was trying to say that you had edited it? I don't know I can't even be bothered to follow it.
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>>151485382
ah fuuuuuuuuuuck

I feel so dumb now. Sorry bro. Damn.

I am just gonna leave now.
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Who's gonna die here?
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Did my own rewatch today since I won't have time to be around tomorrow. There's a couple things I'm not perfectly clear on:
- Did Mimi not need every single one of her fragments to awaken and possess Cocona? The shard from episode 1 that Papika carries in her anklet and uses to transform is never shown getting absorbed into Cocona and in fact isn't, since Papika is still able to transform in episode 12 and she's not using Salt's fragment for that since she's still transformed when Yayaka uses that one to transform. Which leads me to...

- Salt's fragment(s). The one he originally had as a pendant was on him when Mimi destroyed the Asclepius building in the past, it got absorbed into Cocona at the end of episode 10 and he ended up receiving another one (or getting the same one back) from Good Mimi when she shed a tear on him in episode 11, is that how it went?
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>>151485513
>two skullheads Mimi monsters got BTFO into clovers
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>>151485519
>- Salt's fragment(s). The one he originally had as a pendant was on him when Mimi destroyed the Asclepius building in the past, it got absorbed into Cocona at the end of episode 10 and he ended up receiving another one (or getting the same one back) from Good Mimi when she shed a tear on him in episode 11, is that how it went?

Yes, that is how I think how it goes

>- Did Mimi not need every single one of her fragments to awaken and possess Cocona? The shard from episode 1 that Papika carries in her anklet and uses to transform is never shown getting absorbed into Cocona and in fact isn't, since Papika is still able to transform in episode 12 and she's not using Salt's fragment for that since she's still transformed when Yayaka uses that one to transform. Which leads me to...

Mimi was on the boat and talking to Cocona in her dreams since Episode 1. Papika also had the anklet since before Mimi burst into fragments. There is some big secret about Papika still I think.
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>>151485318
Like this?
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>>151485519
>Did Mimi not need every single one of her fragments
Apparently not. Don't theorize too deep into this unless you want to also consider how Mimi "allowed" their shards to function.
>is that how it went?
yes, that's obviously the shard of tear, just like the one from second impact
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>>151485519
>- Did Mimi not need every single one of her fragments to awaken and possess Cocona?

I think it was supposed to be predicated on all of the shards being removed from Pure Illusion rather than being within Cocona? That was my understanding at least.

> is that how it went?
Yes.
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>>151485519
>Did Mimi not need every single one of her fragments to awaken and possess Cocona?
She had all at that time considering one was in Cocona's body, except the one in Papika's anklet. No idea why, might be revealed by 13 or might be a Frodo.

>he ended up receiving another one from Good Mimi when she shed a tear on him in episode 11
Yes, they showed how his younger self got the first one in a short flashback and then it cut back to him looking into his open hand in the same pose. Amazing scene btw.
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>>151485657
>Amazing scene btw.

That entire Salt and Mimi showdown is my favorite sequence in the entire show. Edge of my seat the entire time.
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>>151485582
>Papika also had the anklet since before Mimi burst into fragments.
Well, the anklet was a repainted shackle from when she got caught by Asclepius. I'm assuming Flip Flap just added a compartment to store the fragment they got in episode 1 (or the fragment phases through it and that's where Papika decided to store it).
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>>151485702
It's an allusion to the fact that your girls' happy adventure life is built upon the blood and tears of their last generation.
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Oh fuck. What if we get the bittersweet kissu ending.

Papika literally dying in PI, and as she bleeds out, one final confession as Cocona gives her a Kissu. Papika dies as she barely mutters out "I love love lov-" one final time.
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>>151485807
Not gonna happen, but this is a sad end I could live with.
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>>151485807
I like it.
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>>151485807
I would be dead inside for at least a year, but that scene would also single handedly cement this show as GOAT.
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>>151485807
Looks pretty much so
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>>151485745
>repainted
Still not buying that explanation.
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Was a time for the stream decided on yet?
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>>151485807
So, generic sad ending?
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>>151485892
So, generic shit post?
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>>151485887

Read the thread you faggot >>151476485
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>>151485807
I'm already feeling depressed because the show will end, my feelings can't endure this
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>>151485913
Really feeling that anon change.
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>>151485867
Do you think there will be another big reveal about it? What do you think it is?
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>>151485961
Not even in my top 3 this season.
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>>151485519
Also, random musings:
- I think the show holds up really well upon a rewatch, you notice the heaps of foreshadowing and visual/conversational callbacks and it feels really well constructed in general.

- I don't really feel a disconnect between the two halves of the series. To me it seems like every episode kept building upon the previous ones and gradually explain more and more about the world and characters. Stuff like Iroha's involvement to show Deep Pure Illusion which is eventually revealed to have been the reason why Asclepius does what it does, or Cocona's ever-expanding dream of Mimi gave me a sense of clear continuity and buildup.

- The one thing that feels a little weird is Yayaka's massive and ever-growing relevance. By episode 12 she's the tritagonist, and while she appears in every single episode, she had never received nearly as much focus as Cocona and Papika until 9. Not going to complain because she's best girl.
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>>151486002
Sadly.
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>>151486002
Can I be one of your top 3 anons this season?
>>
On a scale of 1-10, how bad will the production of the last episode be?
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>>151486115
Pure Audio/10
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>>151486115
10/Pure Audio
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>>151486115
10/Pure/Audio
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>>151486115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMuaXIlckU
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>>151486195
>EVA is a Freudian thing
Meme magic is real
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>>151486240
Every boy wants his mom's cock
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>>151486265
Why is Fraud such a meme? Psychologists spend a year learning a literal fucking meme and how to spout it.
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>>151485519
>>151485657
They did not show Papika's leaving her on the hoverboard but we can assume that was a production error since they did show it entering Cocona if you frameskip and count the number of shards that hit her. We also never see Papika's shard again and the way that Salt's is hovering above her after she Flip Flappingus suggests that she used that one instead.

The show never sets a rule that you can't use the same shard to henshin as someone else. It's only implied since Papika and Cocona use separate ones, but it's not like they'd show Papika groping Cocona's inner thigh whenever she wants to flipflap.

Missed opportunity now I think of it. Futaanon?
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>>151486195
>Is Papika my father?
>Am I a lesbian?
>Who does Buu-chan's brain belong to?
>What was the point of Nyunyu?
Flip Flappers would be ripe for a similar rant.
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>>151486327
in the arts he is like symbolism 101, besides everyone does love the penis. men love the penis, women have penis envy. how can you deny these universal truths
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>>151486327
>Fraud
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>>151486376
The fact that he thought he knew the status on penis about everyone pisses me off.
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>>151484780
There wasn't enough build-up for that.
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>>151486395
It's Frued
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>>151486449
relax, his work is interesting but not exactly scientific. besides its way to much fun to ignore. Nothing is more entertaining then going to some art students show, getting drunk, and ranting about your Freudian interpretation of their art.

in real life trolling is fun
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>>151486606
Stop that, Jung. You're going to make Fred mad.
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>>151486635
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>>151486694
Oh watch out, frued's gonna turn us all into dicks
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>>151486880
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>>151486195
>you ran out of ink too, didn't you, you bastards!

Gets me every single fucking time.
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>>151486327
>Psychologists spend a year learning a literal fucking meme and how to spout it.
Because if you actually read his works you start to respect them. Everything about interpretation of dreams is classic as fuck. Also people don't want to admit to their twisted nature so they strongly reject his ideas or trivialize them as "everything is a dick". And that psychological rejection concept is explained in his works too.
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>>151486925
Hidaka is straight you rotten lardwhale.
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>>151486957
No.
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>>151486952
Let's be honest a lot of Freud's writing is justifying his desire to fuck his mother
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>>151487020
Mimi would be proud.
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>>151487020
If his mom looked like Mimi, I can't blame him
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neo thread?
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>>151487096
Why?
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>>151486957
He's clearly sciencesexual. He has no interest in women unless it's for research purposes.
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>>151487132
because it was like that for several weeks
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>>151487096
No, anon. You are not The One.
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>>151487168
It is like that pretty much the whole time the show has aired. It is almost never the case that there is not to be a thread when I check /a/.
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>>151487205
This is true of every popular seasonal show. As long as there's about 40 anons on to talk about it at any given timezone, it'll get constant threads
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>>151487249
Depends what you classify as popular. Hibike would far more regularly not have a thread but then that was much less discussed generally than Flip Flappers.
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>>151487249
>>151487205
>>151487168
>>151487096
>>151487132


New Thread here: >>151487288

It started with dubs, so that must mean its legit.
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>>151487164
Salt was interested in research and see how it turned out
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>>151487324
Fuck off with your general garbage
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>>151472543
>the impedence between Cocona and I started to shrink

Always heartwarming when VAs talk about their characters like their partners.
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