Perfect animation studios don't exi-

st.

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>kyoanus can never taken phantom world back

Munto is proof that KyoAni isn't perfect.

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>>151468859

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Name 1 studio better than KyoAni.

>>151468859
This meme is really ba-

>>151469496
Bones, but only when the have funding, which is hardly ever.

>>151469536
Which studio?

>>151469555
All they make is normal westernized trash, normalfag.

>>151469496
Literally Madhouse.

Or literally any other studio that has 30+ years of existence.

>>151469555
>>151469608

Wrong on all counts.

>>151469496
deen desu baka senpai

>>151469496
>>151469555
>>151469608


On equal grounds no one is better than KyoAni, literally no one. Only industry wide projects are better, like most recently Bone's Mob Psycho or Madhouse's One Punchline Man

>>151469496
Studio Chizu (Hosoda's studio)

>>151469496
Studio Ghibli
Toei Doga
Gainax

>>151468859
Hah hah Tamako Market exists

>>151469645
I don't understand how you can call KyoAni the greatest, when it's only been around for 15 or so years.
Hardly influential at all.

>>151469496
Comix Wave

>>151469689
They defined moe slice of life anime.

>>151469711
I really doubt we will look back 20 years from now and call anything KyoAni has done significantly influential in the industry.
"Moe" has been around forever, you just haven't watched enough anime.

>>151469689
They make the best anime, so they're the best.

>>151469744
I didn't say they created moe, old moe is shit. They made it better.

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Find a flaw

You can't

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perfect albums don't exi-

>>151469496
Dogakobo>White Fox>>>>Shaft>>>>>>garbage>Trigger>KyoAni>Silver Link>JC Staff>Sunrise>Bones>MAPPA>Go Hands>Shuca>A1>Madhouse>feel>Actas>DEEN>>>>>>>>shit>Brains Base>Lerche>diomedia>Xebec>Pierrot>Toei

>>151469830
How could you miss ufotable while having that much autism?

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Love the detailed backgrounds.

>>151469860
Because they're worse than shit not worth mentioning.

>>151469875
>3DPD background with an obvious filter over it
Disgusting.

>>151469823
I prefer Nico

>>151469900
But shit is on that list and there are things below shit. Explain

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>>151469901
Well you're in luck because next season with Maid dragon will be watercolor backgrounds.

>>151469901
>>151469875
Hey, it's a good way to cut costs while still retaining some quality in it. Maybe.

>>151469744
>I really doubt we will look back 20 years from now and call anything KyoAni has done significantly influential in the industry
Keion and Haruhi have already proven you wrong

>>151469932
Shame it wouldn't probably sell as well as Hibikek.

>>151469952
>Haruhi and Kei-On!
>20 years ago
I don't think anybody looking back at those live on Mercury.

>>151469926
OK you got me I just forgot about them.

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>>151469901
That looks more like matte painting. It's obvious when backgrounds are straight up filtered photographs with no major modifications. They're probably using techniques similar to this:

http://www.mclelun.com/2015/10/anime-background-tutorial.html

>>151469496
Kyoto Animation
It's the only one.

>>151469901
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/148242574/
This thread contains proof that Hibike does NOT use filtered photos for backgrounds.

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>white bois can't coo-

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>>151469901
>>151470289
>IRC filter meme getting rekt hard

>>151469952
CGDCT as KyoAni does it has zero staying power. How memorable is Lucky Star/Clannad today after nearly 10 years? That's what K-ON and Haruhi will be in a few more years. Then add 10 more years.

You might disagree with me, but anime that actually is 20 years old that has immense staying power - such as Eva, GitS, Akira, and Lain - would show a completely different story as to what lasts the test of time and what doesn't.

>>151470403
Lain has staying power? The other three, sure, but Lain?

>>151470403
>How memorable is Lucky Star/Clannad today after nearly 10 years?
Lucky Star aged poorly because of dated reference humor. Clannad Afterstory is still revered by MAL. K-ON will be discussed as a masterpiece 100 years from now.

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>>151470289
>>151470360
It's common knowledge Hibike uses filters over 3DPD backgrounds. There's no proof in that thread, only shitposting and hugboxing. I did enjoy the poll that had 40% of the posters in Hibike threads being regulars on /u/ though. Disgusting.

Kyoani is unironically THE most influential studio for the past decade. You cannot name a single that can make a similar claim. This is a proven indisputable fact .

>>151470551
>>151470403
K-On is literally the golden standard for cute girls doing cute things shows.

>>151470588
Damn, the last decade of anime has really been that shitty, huh?

>>151469952
Ain't it funny how those two aren't even KyoAni's own IP?

It could've been any studio.

>>151470638
Nice opinion. We are literally in the golden age of anime and here you are casting a blind eye to true greatness. I pity you to be frank...

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>>151470578
>There's no proof in that thread
There's photos of real life locations posted directly above the drawn, Hibike versions of those locations which are very clearly not filtered photographs or even traced when you compare the photos with the anime screenshots. That's objective proof.

>>151470578
>straight males
>not enjoying the viewing of cute/hot lesbians
>>>/y/
>>>/hm/

>>151470751
"no"

I don't know how you can make that claim, when literally all the "golden era" directors are dead.

>>151470588
Proven how? That's likely true, but I wouldn't be able to back it up myself.

>>151470751
>golden age of anime
What the fuck have you been watching?

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>>151470863
Not him. We are in the golden age of anime because KyoAni is active and making anime. This much should be obvious to any true anime connoisseur.

>>151470776
Proof that those specific scenes aren't filtered 3DPD, but what of the obvious ones such as the one in this thread? Deflecting to obviously drawn scenes as being "objective proof" that the filtered scenes can't be filtered is just a logical fallacy and naivety.

>>151470833
Who are you quoting? 95% of the lesbian couplings aren't canon so you are just enjoying fanfiction. Sad.

>>151469901
Prove it with photographic evidence. If you cannot, >>151470289 presents an objectively more convincing argument than yours.

>>151468859
They would be perfect if they fire Ishidate and Takemoto, promote Oogawa and Fujita to series directors and get Horiguchi back. I still want another Yamada/Horiguchi/Yoshida project. Also that archery boys anime needs to happen ASAP.
>>151470403
You know Haruhi is older than Clannad and LS! right? Also Death Note,Haruhi, Clannad and Geass defined the anime scene for the 00s and half of those are KyoAni. You can't deny their worth when every other studio is trying to imitate them.

>>151471124
Champloo, TTGL, Baccano, FMA, Princess Tutu, Paprika, FMP, NHK, Paranoid Agent, Monster, FLCL, Haibane Renmai and of course Ghibli films would make a complete list. The 2000s were shaped by Satoshi Kon, not KyoAni. Good attempt at cherry picking though.

>>151471379
More than half in that list were irrelevant flops.

>>151471425
Yet they were good enough for the 2000s. Really makes you think about Haruhi and Clannad being "good."

>>151471502
Keep in mind that we are not talking about good shows, but relevant shows that defined the 00's / had major influence in the industry during that era.

Out of all the shows you mentioned, the only ones that managed to become largely influential are FMA and TTGL.

Ghibli films have been a thing since the 80's and Ghibli is honestly kinda independent from the rest of the industry because they only focus on films and they don't usually follow the tendencies that other studios do in their works. The most influential one from that era would be Spirited Away, so the list would still be pretty narrow.

>>151471502
The fuck? Haruhi and Clannad were some of the most popular shows in the 00s as well.

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Old Gainax a best.

>>151468859
>XXX doesn't exi-
Fuck off.

>>151471379
>Champloo, TTGL, Baccano, FMA, Princess Tutu, Paprika, FMP, NHK, Paranoid Agent, Monster, FLCL, Haibane Renmai
Except for TTGL all of those are niche. Hardly influential and nobody even knows them anymore. More than half of them are Fedora-tier.

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Kyoto Animation is the greatest studio of all time.

>>151469496
Toei.

>>151468859
I'm a KyoAnifag and even I know that's false; no studio is perfect and KyoAni makes mistakes too (like Phantom World).

>>151469496
J.C.Staff is close I guess.

Phantom World wasn't a mistake. Why do people keep pushing that shit here?

>>151473599
>generalizing statement
>no opinion to back it up
There are no points for participation, Kevin.

>>151473530
>J.C.Staff
Literally what? The only thing they've made of value was Utena, and that was 20 years ago, and mostly thanks to Ikuhara.

>>151473632
Not him but PW was fun as fuck. The real mistake were Kyokai no Kanata and Munto. It also had the best episode of the first half of the year.

>>151473662
It wasn't even a proper adaptation. The interesting parts of the LN were cut completely for slice of life. Not to mention the terrible anime only characters that added nothing to the story. As a KyoAnifag, do you even read the source material? Disgraceful.

>>151468859
>kyoani
>shitty LN adaptations
>photoshop filters everywhere
Such a bland studio one trick pony surfing on the cute girls doing cute things meme.
Come again when they have as much masterpieces as badhouse

>>151473728
The LN is underage as fuck and I'm glad it was shaved out.

>>151473662
The only mistake was Munto and early Keyshit.

>>151473766
What specifically made it feel "underage as fuck" to you?

>>151473728
The source material isn't KyoAni.

Haruhi S2 was a mistake.

>>151473829
Right. The source is better because it retains the continuity of the story. While KyoAni hamfists characters like the elementary schoolgirl and fairybutt in favor of fanservice. Which failed miserably to appease otaku.

>>151473821
The it's all a dream book. Fuck that shit. The final two episodes of the anime had better conclusion.
>>151473829
The source material is KyoAni LN publishing.
>>151473749
>one trick pony
>meme
>>>/v/

>>151473891
The story is garbage.

>>151473728
>interesting parts
You mean the edgy chuuni nonsense? I'm glad KyoAni lessened that aspect a lot.

>>151473895
Just publishing.

>>151473918
What specific parts of the story are "garbage?"

>>151473919
KyoAni are the kings of chunnishit, friend.

>>151473991
is this bait.png

>>151473991
You can't even get your studio memes straight, KyoAni are the moeshit experts if anything.

>>151473999
>I haven't read anything he is talking about, so while I am uninformed, I can just say he's baiting to deflect


>>151474007
Literal anime based on chuunishit that did extremely well in Japan and the west. Kings of chuunishit stands.

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>>151474142

>>151469496
Arguably Madhouse. Maybe White Fox. Maybe Trigger.

I like all of them anyways.

>>151470551
This
K-on is the best a slice of life show will ever get

>>151474670
Fuck you. Aria is the greatest SoL over made by the hands of man. Not K-On. Aria's ending wasn't even sad but it made me cry because we of the sudden realization I could never watch Aria for the first time ever again.

>>151474747
That's just the opinion of contrarian /a/. It's expected that a namefag like you has that faggot opinion. Fuck off.

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K-on is the best anime, nothing even comes close to it's perfection. For this reason Kyoani is the best studio even though the rest of their stuff is shit compared to K-on.
Maybe Violet Evergarden can achieve at least 0.99 % of K-on greatness.

>>151471124
>fire Ishidate and Takemoto
Kill yourself.

>>151475685
They're so bad it isn't even funny. You know something is wrong when a rookie director always directs better episodes and your name is in the directors board of the company. Takemoto and Ishidate are both way past their expiration date.

>>151469381
But I liked it.

>>151475685
Ishihara should be fired instead.
At least the others are bringing something unique to the studio while Ishihara just keeps shitting out endless romcoms.

>>151471124
>Also that archery boys anime needs to happen ASAP.
Nah kys

>>151476262
Say what you like about how Ishidate handled KnK, but he's still one of the studio's top episode directors.

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ITT : Kyoani cirlejerk
Comeback when your shitty studio as rich as Sunrise and Toei and shaped anime industry

>>151476522
>Kyoanifag will counter this argument with an example of McDonalds franchise Vs Literally who restaurant.

>>151476522
>what is Lucky Star
>what is Haruhi
>what is K-On!

>>151468859
>HetAni
>good

>>151468859
Kyoani would be a perfect animation studio if they wouldn't make their characters so moe and retarded. Overall the animation is great and the writing isn't all that bad either with some exceptions of course.

>>151469711
Oh so shit then

>There are /a/nons who choose JC staff as their favorite studio
Seriously?
Their adaptations are mostly shit. Their last good adaptation anime was Joshiraku.
As the studio which also made tons of adaptations every season, at least A1 definitely
have 1 or 2 good series in year unlike JC.

What is the most promising studio in 2016?
I choose Lerche

>>151476670
They would be a perfect animation studio if they adapted better source material or hired decent writers.

>>151476522
>waaahh kyoanus garbage is the reason why studios make nothing but moeshit nowdays ;;;((
>but because I don't watch their shows they aren't relevant amrite xdxd

>>151476522
>lumping Sunrise with Toei
You know Toei is on a level of its own right? Toei nearly generates on its own as much money as the rest of the industry does. IG prod and co are also bigger in capital than Sunrise. Bamco ate Sunrise from the inside and left it a corpse of what once was anon. Sunrise doesn't even have 3x times the number of employees of Kyoani anymore.

>>151477177
You are now aware that Yoshida (a repeat KyoAni writer) is responsible for more than 8 Billion Yen generated.
>>151476505
Ishidate is a good underling. He's a bad supervisor with bad ideas. The gimmicks he used in KnK were atrocious.
>>151476464
>Ishihara
>bad
kys

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no bully pls

>>151469496
Madhouse

>>151477507
but i will bully you

>>151473895
not an argument, kyoani shill

>>151473728
Fuck off, you didn't read it.

>>151469971
Who fucking cares about sales?

>>151478565
The entire industry?

>>151478610
Are you an industry? Industry of shitposting doesn't count

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>>151472809
FMA is the biggest on that list

Are you retarded?

>>>/tv/

I am tired of crossboarders

>>151469496
madhouse films alone destroy everything kyoani has made.

>>151478687
>FMA is the biggest
The manga yes. Anime sold like shit. TTGL on the other hand was a success by all accounts.

>>151478731
>madhouse
>films
You mean the works of a single man who was so starved by madhouse that he couldn't afford health care for himself and died young?

>>151478565
Maybe they won't try that style anymore because it doesn't sell. That's what I was saying. I wasn't trying to be cynical.

>>151478933
>muh KyoAni artstyle
They use whatever they're told to use when they work on commission. They have a preference when they're the ones producing but when they're treating other IP they won't butcher it and they have shown that multiple times. Fuck off.

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>>151468859
>literally hetshit incarnation
>good

>>151469496
>all these badhouse shills

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>>151470289
>>151471028
I don't see any evidence, and I sure as fuck am not reading through all of that. Kill yourself.

>>151470244
>I don't know anything about photoshop
You look more like an idiot painting.

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>>151468859
>KyoAni will never produce an ecchi show with lots of fanservice

>>151479011
I want them to do more manga adaptations, Nishiya absolutely nailed Koe's designs.
Also I just think LNs are a special kind of shit, from Haruhi to Phantom World I don't give a fuck, I hated it all. Gatoh's are alright though.

>>151479240
Not an argument.

>>151479253
I want a ballroom adaptation by them and a new Yoshida original.

>>151479287
You are not an argument.

>>>/v/

>>151479320
Try saying that to my face.

>>151479240
What a cringy post.

>>151479379
r/anime called.

>>151479403
I can't tell what's more cringy. The irony of you asking for evidence, the fact that you're replying to an hours old post, or that 'idiot painting' comeback.

>>151479464
are all kyoanus lickers this retarded?

>>151479464
You know how I can tell you're some retard who came here from MAL or reddit?

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>>151478861
>Anime sold like shit.

Factually wrong

The anime was so popular they actually remade the entire thing when the manga was finished, literally how many series get this opportunity? Every time people ask for a show for a FMAB treatment that's how popular it is and its got movie adaptions, video games and now even a live action in 2017, anyone who thinks TTGL is a more successful series is retarded

>>151478861
>Anime sold like shit.
You've got to be joking. FMA03 is still BONES' biggest hit to this day and FMAB sold well too.

>>151478933
>>151479253
There is nothing wrong with their artstyle.

>>151479506
>>151479523
Extra cringe.

>>151479661
>12k
>well
Nigger that's seasonal hit tier. Even Chu2Koi sold more than that.

>>151480554
b8