This is Buchou, cheer her up because Hibike is about to end
At least whatever fuckups inevitably occur next year won't be your fault.
I just rewatched the Mizore arc. It was worse second time around all in one go.
Even if we discount Mizore being a weirdo autistic snowflake:
>her extreme reaction to anything Nozomi
>her failure to realise Yuuko is her friend because of her low self-esteem...
there are so many other things I have difficulty wrapping my head around:
>how do they not simply bump into each other at school?
>why did Nozomi not simply say "I'm quitting the band, you should stay though, you're good at this" rather than just saying nothing and somehow disappearing forever
>if she went to the performance doesn't she want to support Mizore? You can't do that without letting her know you were even there. Her apparent avoidance implies guilt for how she treated Mizore, yet the plot hinges on her being oblivious to how Mizore feels
>Why don't they tell Natsuki that they're holding Nozomi back because of how it'd affect Mizore? Yuuko just handwaves it away as "Natsuki wouldn't know what to do". If you don't tell her, she'll keep pushing.
>and why don't they just tell Nozomi? There's no point made about her reacting badly to this information. She accepts she'd likely not get into the competition, and Asuka says she was planning to wait until after the competition to deal with it. Why not just tell her? She's not a snowflake like Mizore. She kinda gets a free pass tootoo, even when the arc resolves, she doesn't claim any responsibility or guilt
>These two points annoy me particularly, because under Taki's tutelage, hasn't the whole band taken on a sort of do or die mentality? I'd almost expect them to be straight up blunt about it rather than stall out of fear of how delicate it all is
>Lastly, I know Asuka's supposed to be this weird sort of infallible wunderkind, but I have a tough time believing she'd have that much insight into how Mizore views the situation
The whole thing's so FUCKING CONTRIVED
What did Kyoani mean by this?
I AM BUCHOU
WE ARE OKYAKU-SAN
ENSOU - SHIMASEN
I... love... sushi?
Mizore and Nozomi arc was entire book. KyoAni cut alot of the inner monlogue and subplot about the competition. Ot explains a lot why Nozomi didn't tell Mizore and talks more about what hapoened the year prior
Anime failed to show that Asuka already knew aboutnher dad being a judge and how stopping Nozomi was bevause of aelfish reasons rather than practical one's. Anime failed to show how good Nozomi actually was as a flutist. Anime failed to show how Kitauji won Kansai was sheer luck.
Not him but that doesn't excuse the shitty arc. Even if Nozomi's reasons were more clear in the novel, she still becomes irrelevant in the overarching plot. If you remove that arc, nothing would be lost aside from more fletched out characterization on Natsuki, Asuka and Yuko, and at that point there are better ways to go about revealing/strengthening their character traits.
>Anime failed to show that Asuka already knew aboutnher dad being a judge and how stopping Nozomi was bevause of aelfish reasons
No it didn't. Asuka herself explains that in the anime
>Anime failed to show how good Nozomi actually was as a flutist.
I thought she was pretty good regardless, I mean one thing the anime has over the novels is that you can listen to her play.
>Anime failed to show how Kitauji won Kansai was sheer luck
Need book citations to compare
One of the big three eho always ein Golds in Kansai had a change of adviser. That was the reason they didnt proceed to Nationals. It showed that Judges have biases that hammered the point of the whole Competition deal in that arc. Tge anime dropped the ball in that subplot.
Why is Reina so hot? That damn pretty face and beautiful hair.
So according to Taki, Kitauji during his wife's time as a student only won bronze at locals but apparently made the Nationals (ep 6, in the car during a typhoon). Can anyone confirm if that was a translation error?
Who can even compete with best girl
Everyone got blueballed this season. KyoAni eliminated any Shuu development and they reinforced Reina's Taki addiction.
KumiRei has the kyoani art, KumiShuu has the novel and manga.
How do you know who's been more correct if you haven't read the novels? And Ultimatebetamax is biased since he's a yurifag. The interviews we have with the author say that Kumiko sees Reina as a soulmate beyond romanticism.
That Shoe scene in ep 12 was a total asspull though. Kumiko loathes the dude and she's out there in the middle of the night having casual convo with him? ffs KyoAni sacrifices character consistency to set-up a shitty movie/OVA again.
Wow are you so biased that you cant analyze character interactions? Kumiko does not loathe Shuichi. Where are you even getting this? Shuichi is not an asshole that his childhood friend would hate. Its like yurifags want to make Shuichi some horrible person. It makea more sense that she is butting up a wall between them so she doesnt get emotionally invested just as Asuka says.
You do know that, in Japan, the LGBT fanbase is not connected to the yuri fanbase whatsoever, right? If someone likes yuri, it's because they like the genre, not because of 'muh representation'.
She doesn't loathe him. Learn to read between the lines. Anime Kumiko KNOWS Shoe likes her, so she distances herself from him to avoid any further romantic approaches. That time in episode 12 was different since she needed someone to talk to, same with episode 13 of S1, she was vulnerable. Hibike is no ordinary anime, characters have more depth. When discerning Hibike characters you should ask yourself not only what do they want but what do they actually need, they can be two completely different things.
Kumiko also avoids him because shes scared to know if she likes Shuichi more than a friend. She's afraid of hurting him and being hurt. It's like no one paid attention to Asuka's breakdown of her character.
Most yuri mangaka are female; some of them are even lesbians themselves. They make yuri because they find it cute/like drama, not because they want to whine about how oppressed they feel.
In the novel Shuichi consoles Kumiko about Mamiko. It seems KyoAni made it so they cut the middleman and have Shuichi go to Mamiko. Why is KyoAni so scared of making theae two interact in meaningful ways.
>KyoAni so scared of making theae two interact
Because the romantic subplot must be avoided. So you have this character that stands up like a sore thumb with seemingly no direction.
At least they didn't make Kumiko know that it was Shuu who told Mamiko. bless KyoAni for that at least. Also his smug smile in Ep 12 is absolutely worthless now.
Even in S1. Playing accross the river? Just randomly passing by the bridge for umakunaritai? Shoe should've been cut out of Kumiko's life the moment he threatened to ruin her friendship with Hazuki.
Read the interviews. They're not scared, they just don't want Kumiko to have a romantic subplot in the anime.
If you retards hadn't read the novels spoilers you'd just think Shoe was an ordinary background character who happens to be Kumiko's childhood friend. You guys are using the novels events to complain about the anime, it's illogical.
>don't want Kumiko to have a romantic subplot in the anime
Kumiko has one though. There's the confession of love between Kumiko and Reina. The central point of the whole first season.
Because those moments didn't have any romantic implications, in the anime they're just friends, Kumiko knows he likes her but it's obvious she doesn't feel the same, hence why she usually acts cold towards him ever since she realized his feelings back in S1.
Kumiko already rejected him, they should have just made them friends at the start of the season to avoid this farce. Instead we have this awkward unnecessary scenes between them.
Why the fuck was that made if Reina still confessed to Taki and Kumiko told her that she would support her?
They're only friends even after Kumiko confessed in the novels, I swear.
Also, why the fuck does KyoAni insist on putting Kumiko and Shuu in the same frame when they are playing in the band? It's the most pathetic attempt at baiting that I've ever seen
Novel 2 was better than novel 1 because novel 1 was garbage. The first season is so much better than its source material that it's not even funny.
inb4 nice blog
For many Hibike! Euphonium fans, the dominant ship of the series is Kumiko x Reina. There are a smaller amount of people who insist on shipping Kumiko and Shuuichi together, and though they are a minority, I have seen a decent amount of posts complaining about Kumiko/Reina shippers hating Shuuichi for no good reason and general pleas for others to respect all ships, no matter how much they don’t agree. I’m going to go into detail in this post about how that kind of discourse is counterproductive and comes from a place of heterosexual privilege.
As a preface, I’d like to state that I am not Japanese, and therefore am not versed in Japanese social norms and cultures. I am, however, a lesbian who has been watching anime since I was in middle school. I’m familiar with popular tropes and I’d say I’m fairly capable of making informed, critical analysis, especially from a perspective of a queer woman. I’d also like to clarify that in this post I am only speaking on the issue of female/female pairings in anime. Erasure of legitimate male/male ships, the pandering of male bodies to largely female populations, and the absence of genderqueer characters in anime are all related issues, but they only tangentially affect the problem I’d like to address in this particular moment. That’s not to say they are not as important, they’re just not what I want to tackle at this time. Finally, I’d like to mention that I haven’t read the Hibike! Euphonium novels, but this is an issue that expands far beyond this single example and should be treated as such.
First off, my stance on the Kumiko/Shuuichi pair is that it just doesn’t work. Here are the facts: Shuuichi is Kumiko’s childhood friend, Kumiko barely acknowledges Shuuichi’s existence, and Shuuichi has a crush on her. Kumiko doesn’t even entertain the idea that she could ever date him. In episode 8, for example, she responds to him asking her out with a blatantly surprised, “Huh? Why?” From what I’ve seen, the only reasons why people do think the ship can sail is because they have a history of being friends that isn’t shown in the anime, and that Shuuichi is “a good guy.” If anyone honestly has any other evidence, please, please let me know because I’m just not seeing it. Now, I’m not saying these aren’t legitimate reasons for a relationship to happen. I’m sure there are plenty of people who have dated others for exactly those reasons. This, however, brings me to my next point.
Shuuichi is shipped with Kumiko for the sole reason that he’s a guy. You can argue against that all you want, but when it comes down to it, that’s the cold truth. He is a male character with more interaction with Kumiko than any other male character; that isn’t saying much, considering Goto is already in a relationship and Taki never has a one-on-one interaction with Kumiko. Shuuichi is the only male character who can be shipped with Kumiko, so by default, that’s the ship straight people go for. By shipping Shuuichi with Kumiko over Kumiko and Reina, though, you are basically saying that Shuuichi’s potential to be a partner for Kumiko trumps the chemistry Reina has with her.
This is extraordinarily frustrating.
There is no denying that Kumiko and Reina have a complicated but intense relationship. Whether you think they work out as a couple is ultimately irrelevant, because in anyone’s eyes, they have more chemistry and a stronger basis for a relationship than Shuuichi and Kumiko. To have this continually denied in the canon and by fellow fans is discouraging beyond belief. It’s not just a matter of having your ship get validated. It goes way beyond that. This isn’t the same as shipping one girl with one male character over another male character and getting disappointed when your ship isn’t made canon.
Queer people are continually told that, no matter how much more valid their ships may be, they will always be struck down by conventional straight pairings regardless of how much chemistry that ship has. This doesn’t just apply to anime. This applies to almost every single instance of media not specifically designated for queer people. Pitch Perfect is a great example; Beca and Chloe have great chemistry and build each other up in significant ways, but that is bypassed for a straight pairing involving a male character utterly unimportant to the plot of the movie. There are dozens of other examples, but I’m not going to bother looking for more.
This is why Kumiko and Reina shippers hate Shuuichi. It isn’t because he’s necessarily a bad character – although some would disagree and have plenty of evidence to back up their opinions – but because he reinforces a heteronormative standard. It is heartbreaking to have the little representation you can hope for continually end up denied to you. It isn’t that yuri fans “make everything about yuri” or “have their yuri goggles on too tight,” it’s that we’re fucking tired of having our identity belittled and made insignificant.
The reality is that, in the choice between two girls who have a complex, deeply emotional relationship with each other and a normal, completely unoriginal male character succeeding with one of those girls, the latter wins out just about 100% of the time. The only examples I can come up with off the top of my head that don’t follow that formula are Legend of Korra and The 100. I definitely can’t think of a single instance in anime where this doesn’t apply. Tamako Market and Cross Agne, along with dozens of other titles, bait lesbian relationships hard, then give the girl to a boring dude without bothering to give substantial reason for the relationship to build up. Many Shuuichi and Kumiko shippers complain that Reina x Kumiko is forced, but in comparison to Shuuichi x Kumiko, it is as natural as any pairing could possibly be.
It’s really insensitive to tell Reina x Kumiko shippers to stop hating Shuuichi, or to not put so much emphasis on a yuri pairing in a non-yuri anime, and so on. It comes from a place of privilege, where you don’t have your ships denied to you 100% of the time, where you do have shows that appeal to your sexual preference without also specifically catering to those who share that preference. Keep in mind that a large number of those who ship yuri pairings over straight pairings are more often than not queer themselves.
This is not about liking one ship over another, it’s about representation that should be there, and could easily be there, but isn’t. It is hurtful. It is erasure. To dismiss it and think that people are overreacting and disrespecting your ships indicates an incredibly narrow-minded view of the world.
Novelanon keeps getting wrong about the anime.
But at least he's succeeded in shitting up Hibike threads by trying to frame the anime as a "wrong" version of the novels. Fuck that guy
>Novelanon keeps getting wrong about the anime.
Well he didn't claim thats how the anime would happen. All he did was gave us what happened in the novels which the anime followed mostly.
How is this 'luck'? This is of course normal bullshit that happens with any judged competition. Of course the same schools tend to win these things on reputation year after year, that would have made for a pretty boring story, 'and then they finished second to the usual 3 schools that always go to Nationals.'
>Just started watching season 2 because I didn't have time before.
>Drop in to see what the discussion is.
>Exact same arguing as last season.
Christ, people seem so emotionally invested in this shit. Why? It's not even a romance anime.
He did no such thing. He never gave opinions. It was the readers who did thathemselves. Don't blame him for what the hus readership are doing. The same way Indon't blame Takeda for yurifag behavior
Tamako Market was fine. Midori lost but her feelings were always treated seriously and Mochi was a perfectly acceptable character.
Shuuichi's problem is that unlike Mochi who could stand on his own, he really is just the definition of a bland romantic stand-in who's the love interest solely because that's what he was written in to be, dammit. I think episode 8 was what clinched that for a lot of people; he's the generic nice guy who'd have taken Kumiko on a generic festival date to do generic festival things and eat generic festival food, contrasted with the mysterious girl who takes her up a mountain to watch the nighttime city and play love songs together. Whatever the genders involved are, it's hardly surprising that lots of people are less excited about the former than the latter.
It gave the silly self-inserts and hetshitters some semblance of hope which always turns out quite beautifully based on the previous hibikek threads, right?
I expect it won't be address at all.
But oh god the threads if that did happen. I kind of want it, just to be able to say I was there.
I can still remember how they said Reina would give Shoe and Kumiko the tickets for her haunted house. Shoefags wouldn't stop talking about that eventual scene. Turns out there was no such thing.
Its always the yurishitters starting stuff making bold claims on how Kumiko acts the way she does and telling everyone that their interpretation is correct when its just a very shallow reading of her character. People try to discuss with them but are always labels as hetfags. The /ourguy/fags dont really care they do it to mock yurifags who are so invested.
Reina is a raging heterosexual. Shuu does nothing.
by what metric is this a yuri/hetero victory at all? It's basically "Everyone dies, and so our piece ends."
>it’s about representation that should be there
Why the fuck do you even want Kumiko and Reina to be representation gay people in the first place? One of them is an emotionally distant ice queen and the other naively thinks that they're this super special person. They're emotionally immature teenagers; is that how you want people to see lesbians?
Not exactly a win, just a ridiculous shitstorm.
It'd be worse than usual because it'd be compounded by the yurifags trying to outdo the hetfag crowing after the previous episode.
KyoAni goes to absurd lengths just to remind us all how straight Reina is. It's hilarious how people still expect her to somehow magically turn into a bisexual by the end of this.
>Yurifags are insane.
I've said it before, these aren't yurifags. Yurifags on other threads can't shut up about other yuri series they like. Yet, the yurifags in these threads never bring up those same series.
My favorite at the moment is Kase-san. I have all of the tanks. I wanted to get Yuzumori-san for Christmas, but it was sold out. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the more popular manga currently being serialized like YagaKimi or Citrus, but I still like them enough to look forward to the English releases. Pandora is great and I love Nene.
I'm not sure how any of that is relevant to this thread, but does that help?
I think a lot of people would want to see her moving on regardless of the sexualities involved. Kumiko's the most logical target.
tangent offshoots. I still think that it's plausible that Kumiko is a lesbian
Reina has to be emotionally devastated and have years of her feelings gone to waste so she could be turned into a bisexual. How convenient. A totally mentally healthy ship.
I really don't want to be dragged into a stupid argument about yuri or whatever this close to the end of the show, but... giving up on years of obsessive stalking of a much older man you know next to nothing about is the UNHEALTHY choice in your book?
>KyoAni goes to absurd lengths just to remind us all how in love with Taki Reina is
i was saying that the cause for Reina being bisexual being emotional devastation is kinda cheap and is a really bad representation of actual lesbian and bisexual experience.
As for the Taki obsession, yeah it's fucked up.
>Not a problem in Asian countries.
>I'm not sure how any of that is relevant to this thread
That's sort of the point. Just look at Flip Flapper threads. They constantly make references and post images from yuri anime, even occasionally going off on tangents about Yuzumori or YagaKimi or other any other yuri manga. The yurifags in these threads don't talk to each other, they just want to argue with people who don't agree with them.
Okay, here's a cute fan fiction I found in MAL:
Kumiko and Shuuichi were born 4 weeks apart, Kumiko being the first to see the light of this world. As they grew up, they spent an awful lot of time together. Since Shuuichi's both parents were working, at Kumiko's mother's offer, they started to leave Shuuichi at Kumiko's mother's care. Kumiko's mother took care of him as if he was her own son, perhaps because she didn't have a son of her own. Shuuichi's mother on the other hand, was very fond of Mamiko, then an energetic four year old girl, and always hoped to have a daughter like Mamiko as she already had two sons (a ten and an eight years old at that time) before having Shuuichi.
Later on, Mamiko, four years older than the two, started to take care of the two little ones after they turned six years old in place of her mother from time to time. During that time, Shuuichi grew closer to Mamiko, and became more attached to her than his two older brothers who were much older than him and were already in the first and third year of high school.
Shuuichi fell in love with his Maminee-chan (Mamiko) after a while. Although he wouldn't admit, he hated the fact that Kumiko could spend more time with her sister. He became competitive with Kumiko to impress his Maminee-chan when it came to playing wind instruments. Later on, his competitiveness towards Kumiko turned into admiration after he acknowledged her dedication to play with Mamiko. Before long, in one fine day of spring, his admiration turned into crush for the girl he once wouldn't want to lose to.
nigga please, in the og Tamako Market anime Mochizou was irrelevant as fuck and barely developed as a character.
Just wait in 10 years some anime studio will make a 26 episode anime remake of Euphonium that weaves all 4 novels into a cohesive whole and won't have all the bs KyoAnisms like girls drawn like children and no Quartet
Typical filipinos ruining hibike thread.
mga putangina nyo umalis nga kayo dito.
>See Buchou thread.
>Expect quality and lots of praising for Buchou.
>Same good old shipfaggotry war.
Fucking kill me, will the threads of this show get better once its over?
She's set herself up for emotional devastation either way. The least the story can do is address that instead of glorifying it.
Come to think it it, it would have been a nice way of bookending had the sequel been about her instead. The story starts with Kumiko learning how to be special and not put herself down before even trying from Reina, and ends with Reina learning that sometimes you have to abandon something in order to start something new from Kumiko.
Don't worry, I'll praise Buchou and tell her that she did a good job!
>Lastly, I know Asuka's supposed to be this weird sort of infallible wunderkind, but I have a tough time believing she'd have that much insight into how Mizore views the situation
I don't think that's unbelievable. Some people are good at picking up on other people's emotions.
That's what happens when a girl meets another girl and they become best friends. They'll be together forever even after school ends.
>They both played clarinet in the same club together at middle school. They're kindred spirits that light up each other's worlds.
>They can often be found playing with beanbags and whispering things to each other, emitting a strange aura from the corner of the room.
Buchou is an amazing person, she tried her best and put her effort in, doesn't argue all the time plus she's got a great voice. It truly is sad that people would rather argue over sexuality or who's going to be with who then discuss the show itself or character development especially with it being final episode. They should've left all the romance out and got rid of the bait so we wouldn't have these kind of things.
Shippingfags have ruined the threads.
Without shipping, Hibike would have been nothing.
What they should have done was just focus on one of the half a dozen romantic plots they introduced, or at least brought one to fruition. Preferably both.
Or you not paying good enough attention.
Or you're just delusional, here what we have:
>Shoe likes Kumiko, she doesn't reciprocate.
>Reina is craving Taki, He doesn't reciprocate.
>Hazuki likes Shoe, He doesn't reciprocate.
>Gotou and Riko date.
That's all, everything else is just dumb people projecting things.
>Hibike without shipping would be K-ON
>Expect: Hibike shipwar
>Got: Hibike shipwar
I woke up thinking the episode was today.
>ywn have an oboe that follows you around
>ywn join the kitauji band
>ywn be known as that first year who has a thing to the oboe
>ywn approach and chat with her after band practices while looking forward to her cute awkward replies
>ywn experience oboe warming up to you
>ywn get to see that rare smile of her
>ywn court her in college as your previous band bros and her friends tease both of you
>ywn graduate and marry oboe after college
>ywn settle down and live in uji with her
>ywn have a comfy family with good kids with her
>ywn introduce your kids to the same instruments both of you loved
>ywn attend band reunions with her
>ywn see both of your kids reach and win gold in the nationals
>ywn grow old with her as your kids become successful in life
You just reminded me how pathetic my life is
>ywn court her in college as your previous band bros and her friends tease both of you
You'll never be bros with shoe and tease him with Kumiko while he gets back at you with Oboe
Has Reina ever talked with Kumiko's cynical persona before? In the anime it seems like she's only shown that side to Asuka, Mamiko, and Shuu.
I'd pay good money to see Disgusting Persona Kumiko and Tokobetsu Reina have a cat fight
I just had a weird dream where I was competing with Shuuichi for Kumiko's love. I thought I had won but then he gave her the hairpin and she went crazy for it. And then we started laughing and bantering about him winning like we were bros. When I woke up I couldn't remember if I was Reina in the dream or just myself
Funny thing is that this shit's fairly difficult these days even for normies thanks to the never-ending stagflation and ever-widening income gap. It ain't 50s anymore mate
Definitely, fuck Ribbons, Haruka will always be the buchou in my heart.
I wonder how she's gonna maintain that while having to fulfill the companionship needs of her high maintenance autist bestie who's constantly threatening to freak out in public.
Is there Kumiko with party hat thread this year?
Not really. I'm always aware when I'm shipping two characters or just self-inserting as one. For example I never self-inserted as Roy or Riza in FMA and I just shipped them, but I self-inserted as the guy in Kyoukai no Kanata and felt Mirai was my waifu.
Yuuko became best girl this season, and never disappointed.
I, for one, am ready to welcome their new Buchou/Madonna.
must be nice to be a neet
Thus we are in agreement that mizore = shit.
The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am that this show/novel has really dropped the ball on Reina. Don't you think? Regardless of how invested you are in Kumiko and Reina being gay or whatever...
In season one she's pretty much the most compelling character in the show. I mean it's practically a show about how Reina has a firm grip on Kumiko's attention. There's all this stuff about being different and special, then the confirmation that she's in it for Taki-sensei's cock comes in fairly late towards the end, so the progression across the season is how much Kumiko/we learn about her.
Then in season two she's only about Taki-sensei's cock. Reina and our understanding of her doesn't progress, instead what progresses is our understanding of how doomed her ambitions towards Taki are. Kumiko puts off dealing with this the whole show (despite the Mizore arc telling us things like this ought to be dealt with swiftly, if you let it drag on the tension increases), and eventually Reina discovers the truth herself, and that bums her out but doesn't deter her. And she finally confesses, twice, and Taki is either oblivious or avoiding dealing with it, and that doesn't seem to deter her either.
This final episode had better tackle it in some way, and if it does, doesn't it need to dedicate a big chunk of time to it? If her character refuses to develop, what's even the point of her being a main character? I'm looking forward to seeing the final episode attempt to deal with it, but I doubt it even has time to do that properly, and really fear it'll just be Reina saying her failed confession hardened her resolve even more.
However pic related are the true main characters so too bad.
I think we can all agree that Ponytail Kumiko > Tentacle Kumiko
She's served her purpose to Kumiko in S1 so that our little fluffer can learn about passion and the frustrations of not being good enough. She's grown too, as Kumi notes in S2E1 how she still continues striving towards being Tokobetsu while being sensitive of others (Kaori et. al).
We do get the reasons why she's aloof and tokobetsu as shown in her childhood scene. That said, we can't really expect more drama from that end because she lives quite a stable and, t.b.h., privileged life. Going to a literally who school like Kitauji is probably the riskiest thing she's ever done in her life and we all know why she did that.
If she just gave up on Taki from a failed confession wouldn't that contradict her headstrong determination towards things? I liked the scene in S2 where Yuuko offers support when she's down and Reina instantly recovers like the Tokobetsu Tensai that she is, cant rememeber what ep tho. That said, Reina openly displays her vulnerable side now to people other than Kumiko (after her second confession when the trumpet section supports her). If we do get further development from Reina I'd like to see her getting along better with the trumpets and slowly realizing that she'll be section leader one day.
Tokobetsu meets Fuuts>> learns Fuutsu ways and understands them better>>becomes a better Tokobetsu
>Hibike will completely over after next 24 hours
>We do get the reasons why she's aloof and tokobetsu as shown in her childhood scene. That said, we can't really expect more drama from that end because she lives quite a stable and, t.b.h., privileged life. Going to a literally who school like Kitauji is probably the riskiest thing she's ever done in her life and we all know why she did that.
Reina reminds me of Kageyama from Haikyuu
Genius autist, no real life drama, clashing with senpais, goes to a shit school (although for different reasons), learns to be better person
>slowly realizing that she'll be section leader one day
Don't worry. qt trumpet will handle the personal relations while Reina leads them with the technical stuff.
We need to see more Reina and qt trumpet interactions.
If you've known your dentist since childhood, do you "know" him? If you've known your neighbour three houses down since childhood, do you "know" him? If you've known your father's work colleague since childhood, do you "know" him?
The fact of the matter is, she didn't know he was even married, let alone that his wife had died. How well can she claim to know him? He's not that old, he was likely still married at times when he had visited her house.
You don't know that. We only for certain know that they ever met twice before she became his student. It's safe to assume they've met more often than that, the progression from loli Reina almost being intimidated by him to middleschool Reina's "you were here?" in the second flashback suggests those scenes aren't the only times they've met, but we can't know from that that they've met frequently. We have no idea.
>If she just gave up on Taki from a failed confession wouldn't that contradict her headstrong determination towards things?
Which would be development of an immature part of her personality. Just like Kumiko leaving her middle school acquaintances and Mamiko quitting school, she learns that letting things go because you grow up and change isn't the same as running away.
He's not a liberal studies major, he's shitposting. He's hoping that with his guidance, the rest of us will infer that the post about how we have no idea how well Taki and Reina know each other is actually somehow pushing a KumiRei agenda. It's such a weak effort, it's laughable.
KyoAni's pacing makes that impossible (rejection, realization, moving forward) since that would demand an entire min-arc. Maybe further down the road, she'll learn that. Open end after all .
At this stage understanding and being sensitive to the feelings of other persons is her most important development. She's grown a lot desu.
She wants a fresh start. You can debate whether it's necessary but there's nothing particularly unhealthy about that. What middleschool friends are we even told she had besides Azusa?
If she's grown a lot, the show's not dedicated much time to showing us that. The OP shows her hanging out with Midori and Hazuki and apparently being friendly. In the show when they're all together she's basically silent until they go off somewhere and she's alone with Kumiko
It's not much, but it's still there. She eats lunch with the trumpets, she's on friendly terms with Kaori, Yuuko supports her now, and the trumpets console her after her rejection. Again, it's Kumiko's show and whatever Reina development that we see is from Kumiko's limited viewpoint. KyoAni does get oversubtle at times tho so we'll have to fill in a lot of the gaps by ourselves
I haven't watched S2 yet, but I wanted to ask if S2 adapted both the 2nd and 3rd book or there is going to be a S3.
That's too bad. At least it's not half adapted like other anime adaptations.
>it's both books. It's been fairly rushed. After this last episode it's all over.
>That's too bad. At least it's not half adapted like other anime adaptations.
There are plenty of new books. It's just that they are not part of the animation rights that KyoAni purchased so if they wanted more, they would have to get out of their way to get it.
Up to now it was guaranteed that KyoAni will animated everything they paid for. It would have been a waste of money to buy the rights and then not milk it. But nw we reached the limbo stage where KyoAni COULD make more, but they would have to cough up a payment for it. And sequels that don't follow the original protagonists tend to make less money.
>There should be an OVA confirmation after the final episode and should take place on a beach.
OR, if they want to go all out, they could make a spinoff on the different school first.
Haven't they adapted scenes from volume 4? I'm trying to wrap my head around a wonky translation of a synopsis but it looks like scenes going into detail about the third year fallout from the previous year, scenes from the school festival, and the loli Reina flashback are from volume 4.
Momiko obviously, not only fug, but also marry, top breeding material and housewife.
>Having your very own Kumiko factory.
This is my fetish.
>If you remove that arc, nothing would be lost aside from more fletched out characterization on Natsuki, Asuka and Yuko, and at that point there are better ways to go about revealing/strengthening their character traits.
16 hours late but the arc also reaffirms the role Kumiko herself subconsciously takes as an simple observer.
Reminder that this time tomorrow it'll all be over forever.
No matter who wins between Hets and Yurifags, in the end, we all lose.
There isn't going to be any movie. Hibike's all done and over with
There are other ways to go about that without including two irrelevant characters she doesn't know and that will be completely forgotten on the next arc. Why not use the characters we already have, center this whole thing on Yuuko or Natsuki or Goto and his girlfriend? Characters we should know and care about at this point and that are already more fletched out than Nozomi and Mizore. That would make the point clearer that she doesn't like getting emotionally involved even with people she knows. The takeaways from the Nozomi/Mizore arc were that Asuka is truly a cynical two faced bitch who likes projecting her issues on to other people, Yuko's sense of justice is unbreakable, but depending on the viewer's perception she can be seen as the good or bad guy, and also that Kumiko doesn't want to get emotionally invested. Hundreds of new events, relevant to the overarching plot, could be made to bring these bits of characterization to light.
Huh? Kyoani announced something?
Eh, people were also saying we're not going to get season two because season one sales didn't pass 10k. Kyoani picked this up because they liked the source material. If they like the spinoff they might adapt it regardless of these sales. And if it's a spinoff and not sequel the season two sales don't really matter as much.
loving parentin a very non-romantic, non-sexualway.
>You make it seem like you know what you're saying but in reality no one knows the deal Kyoani has with the publisher
We know what they told us. If you haven't been up to speed with the interviews then maybe don't pretend other people are wrong?
>Asuka in the background (yet still distinct) for the first two books then directly at the forefront for the third
Was Asuka a main character all this time? She's the only one other than Kumiko that appears on all three books
You're prepping for a big concert when this autist walks up and tries to fistbump you.
>teleport behind her
>kiss her ear
>"nothin personnel kid"
Sales are roughly the same as season 1 and it doesn't matter. Kyoani can do whatever they want. They made Tamako Love Story because they wanted to despite Tamako Market being one of their worst selling shows. They made Tamako Market rather than K-On S3 because they wanted to.
What did you say about my wife?