The six years before Madoka had several shows that were better

>>151435875
Ping pong the animation
The rolling girls
Flip flappers

There's a lot of them but you smell a little bit of new anon.
Also i guess your taste is hard to please as well

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>>151435875
>madoka
>good

>>151436066
better than your animu fag

>>151436009
> The rolling girls
> Flip flappers
Are you kidding?

>>151435875
Your taste simply imploded in 2011, I guess.

>>151436009
>The rolling girls
Thinking man's K-on stopped being interesting like two episodes in.

>>151436250
Flip Flappers is the Madoka of Eva

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Madoka still remains my personal favorite show.

>>151435875

This is something I've been thinking about. I think the 2006-2011 period was WAY better than any other period. Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Steins;Gate, FMA:B, Death Note are some of the big ones, and then there's many others like Clannad, ef, Ano Hana, Usagi Drop, Penguindrum, probably lots others, and even comedies like Lucky Star, etc. etc.

I think it might have to do with how digital animation was only getting common in the early 2000s. Digital is of course much more efficient than cel painted, but it'd also probably have taken a few years for studios to make the transition and get used to the process and adapt fully to it. So that might bring us to around 2005 ish. Maybe it's thanks to them being able to animate easier that led them to wanting to adapt some existing materials, and so they started adapting a lot of things that already existed (as in they have a lot of good material to pick)? And also to have more ambitious goals in general.

Either way, I really liked Ping Pong, Parasyte was pretty good, heck even Attack on Titan... but those shows still don't compare to 2006-2011 for me.

>>151436729

Deep

>>151437037
Watch more anime, nigger.

Flip flappers is good but it's not madoka good.
It needed to be more coherent to have that kind of prestige. Cocona and her struggles lacked the kind of overall thread that tied the madoka characters together.

>>151437067
Not him but he might be really focused on that period and won't watch the anime of today though.

Y'know like those people that belive they're still on their best time of their lifes but are pretty outdated

>>151437120
I didn't watch Flip Flappers, but I don't really get what makes Madoka "prestigious," frankly. The characters didn't seem particularly great to me, I'd take something like Bokurano over it any day in terms of engaging with similar themes.

>>151437166
>but I don't really get what makes Madoka "prestigious," frankly.
I'll tell you
>Memebucher
>Edge
>Suffering
>"Deep themes"
>Fodder for pretentious over thinkers
Fact is, Madoka is just a basic show with 1 note characters and simple narrative. The way it's presented makes it engaging to most people, meaning people are blindsided by Shaft visuals and plot twist.

>>151437166
I found Mami rather flat, but that's because she was only in 4 episodes. Kyouko was uninteresting to me. The other 3 were great fun, though.

It wasn't even the best show of the year. Hyouge Mono, Pengindrum, Steins Gate and Anohana were all better.

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>>151437316
>shaft visuals

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>>151437380
>the show that took over /a/ wasn't the best thing of the year

>>151437464
SEED Destiny confirmed AOTY 2004.

>>151437464
>It's popular so it's better
You must like Reddit:Zero then. I like the discussion threads and shitposting but that doesn't factor in my personal rating of a series.

>>151437380
The only thing that holds water there is Steins Gate

>>151437067
>>151437124

Just to clarify, I obviously named the more popular ones because they are more widely agreed upon to be the good shows. Hence the etcs.

I do like newer anime, but I still haven't seen a show (except for Ping Pong) that really resonated deeply with me.

>>151437380
>A pretentious, grimdark "deconstruction" of a genre that is normally relegated to being kids' stuff is more fondly remembered than the better made, more thoughtful, and actually deep Kunihiko Ikuhara production that came out the same year.

It was bullshit in 1997 and it was bullshit in 2011

>>151437380

I feel like I would have to agree and say Steins;Gate for sure is an overall better show than Madoka, but personally Madoka (and Penguindrum is really close too) is my favorite of them. Especially when you include Rebellion (which I love for everything that it did manage to do despite flaws).

Either way though, it's crazy how there were so many great shows in 2011. Madoka, Steins;Gate, Penguindrum, Ano Hana? Those are all shows that would have each made an entire year for me, but yet they were put all into one at once. Usagi Drop was good too.

>>151437701
Thanks for your hot opinion, friend.

>>151437707
I don't like Rebellion as much as I did back when I first saw it. I think it's a step back from the anime.

>>151437794
it obviously isnt tho

yeah but madoka has the 3 movies now, not sure if you can name a better anime than that

>>151437701
>Madoka
>Deconstruction
This meme will never end, will it?

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>>151437880
The true deconstruction of the magical girl genre.

>>151437872
Garzey's Wing

>>151435875
literally three months later stein's gate and nichijou came out, two seasons after that mirai nikki and hunter x hunter, one year later psycho-pass and jojo's. should i continue or do you realize maduka is trash yet?


fuck off with your bait

>>151438046
>mirai nikki
Wew lad

>>151438046
Not sure if b8 or not?

>>151435875
Shinsekai Yori, Steins;Gate. That's all I've got.

>>151435875
My favorites list seems to agree there's less good anime after 2011.

But only a little bit. Is it really that bad? Some anime that came out after Madoka:

Steins;gate
Ping Pong
Food Wars
One Punch Man
Re:Zero
Erased
Your Name
A Silent Voice

Maybe exclude S;g since it probably shared one week of airtime with Madoka. And maybe exclude the movies. Still, One Punch Man, Gintama, Log Horizon, Kill la Kill were all worse?

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>>151438046
>Mirai Nikki better than Madoka
How's winter break anon?

>>151438167
Kill la kill was a good ride, not a good anime.

>>151437316
This.

The twenty one years before NGE had plenty of shows that were better than it, but the twenty one years since had none. Is anime in terminal decline?

>>151438046
lmao mirai nikki and steins gate better than madoka.
comparing it to hxh and "jojo"

>>151438167
i mean, not everyone is supposed to get what makes an anime better than the rest, anyone can post in here you know ;)

>>151437979
>mal 4/10
>1996
>3 ep ova

>>151437794

I think that's something you can say; the movie was quite different from the show.

But I think there is a lot that it accomplished, and in any way making a sequel to a complete series is a difficult task.

I love both the series and the movie, but the movie made me like Madoka even more,

This was a particularly interesting analysis that I read recently: http://wrongeverytime.com/2014/07/14/the-rising-tide-madoka-rebellion-and-communal-culture/

It talks about a lot of stuff, but one view point that stood out to me was that you could interpret the beginning of the movie (the "fanservice-y, dragged out, cash grabbing part") as the audience's dream, not just Homura's labyrinth. At least it definitely wasn't Homura's dream, at least in the sense that it would have been different if she made it 100% the way she wanted. And if the movie did end with everyone saving Homura and Madoka saving her with the Law of Cycles (and somehow the Incubators would not be able to observe/steal Madoka, etc.), then that would have been an overly happy ending.

In a way, Homura's selfish desire led to a weird ending, and you could say that selfish desire represents the fans. The fans got the happy world they wanted at the start of the movie, but them wanting an overly happy ending backfired.

Or something like that.

I also love the movie because of how much love they put into the music and animation. It is probably my favorite OST from Kajiura ever, even more so than KnK and PMMM.

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>>151435875
I don't know the exact condition of the anime industry, but it looks like a lot of hope was placed on Madoka. It was something rather unique yet still niche to anime.

It's still pretty much my favorite. Sometimes I look forward to new Madoka doujins more than anything.

>>151438333
>lmao
>>151438423
>;)
>>151438584
>mal
You have to go back.

>>151438634
you sure are proud. so smart answer
i just googled the crap show he mentions and mal's score is like the first thing you see, it's called google.

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>>151438606
Only Homura knew of Madoka's existence, so the experiment to control Madoka won't work on others. And yeah, I can see how rebellion has double meanings, ie commentary on the fandom. The movie has sparked some interesting analysis and reactions.

>>151437330
Mami's the only meguca that isn't flat though.