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Merry Witchmas, /a/
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Erika is mai waifu.

Man I haven't played Umineko in over 3 years, I should play it again.
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>tfw finished first 4 arcs
>can't choose between S;0 and Chiru
Chiru is longer right?
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>>151406721
Chiru is long as fuck, but the pacing is a lot faster than in ep 1-2 usually so I found it easier to read.It's been a while since I played it so I may be understating it.
Also I hope you're playing with the original sprite, the ps3 sprites just aren't as good.
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>>151406447
Posting best Seacat.

Merry Christmas.
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>>151406667
>>151406905
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>>151406935
>hating erika
What are you a fag anon?
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I want to deito Lucifer.
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>>151406935
Nigga I'll fight you
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Who else is hype for S2?
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>>151407190
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>>151406447
>tfw I can't find the scum battle theory I posted over 5 years ago through the /jp/ archive
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>tfw no murder mystery family get together for christmas
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>>151407520
I'd hate to be the detective in my family.
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>>151407520
Nah fuck that, I'd rather go back to the days of inane shitposting about stupid theories like moontrice, ghodatrice, shkannon.
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>You'll never have the chance to fuck Rosa, Eva or Natsushi.
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>>151407520
Seacats truly has the best memes
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https://youtu.be/ZB01uKJbl0I
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>>151407802
Evatrice was just so good
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>>151407645
>you'll never have a chance to fuck Jessica
>you'll never have the chance to let her be raped by multiple guys at her school for fun
>you'll never marry Rosa and fuck Maria as she sleeps
>you'll never impregnate Natsuhi and convince her that Krauss is the father
>you'll never fuck Kinzo's burned corpse
>you'll never burn Maria diary one page at a time in from of Ange
>you'll never kill Tohya in front of Ange
>you'll never rape Ange on Tohya's body
>you'll never kill Bernkastel
>you'll never chain Beatrice to your bed
>you'll never convince Rudolf that Kyrie is not worth fucking and that he can do better
>you'll never watch Krauss rape Eva every night
>you'll never fuck Shannon in front of George
>you'll never fuck Jessica in front of Jessica
So many thing lost.
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>>151407888
>you'll never fuck Jessica in front of Jessica
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should i give umineko a chance? I tried getting a copy and getting it all working a few days ago but I didnt want to jump through the endless loops.
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HOW CAN OTHER SEACATS EVEN COMPETE?
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>>151408122
>not cutting her in half and fucking her lower body in front of her
But anyways, I meant
>you'll never fuck Jessica in front of Kanon
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>>151408309
Read Higurashi first.

>>151408333
By existing.
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>>151408333
They simply cannot.
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WHO <SMUG> HERE?
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>>151408664
I hate her and her stupid hat.
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>>151408714
That's not a hat, it's her head.
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>>151408714
wow dude, that's kinda harsh.
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>>151407888
You forgot
>You'll never verbally raped by Erika
>You'll never be intellectually raped by Erika
>You'll never be raped on your wedding night by Erika
>You'll never go on pirate adventures with Erika
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I want to fuck this squirrel.
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>>151408827
I purposefully avoided Erika because she died when she jumped off the cruise ship.
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>a 1000 years old witch will never murder your entire family with magic
Fuck this life
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>>151408664
The smuggest.
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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.
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Guys, I'm on chapter 4 and I've finally solved it.
The culprit is Gohda. Everything can be explained through hallucinogenic food. Beatrice is someone that Gohda had an affair with who is mad at him.
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>>151408901
How could Godha have killed everyone in Ep 1-3 and 4 if he dies early?
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>>151409581
Krauss' nightly rapes.
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>>151408888
Fuck off goat, Erika is the witch of truth. She exist outside the gameboard and reality, she's alive forever faggot.
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>>151409209
Nah it's Jessica, moontrice is real.
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>>151410542
Seems that someone can't accept the truth.
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>>151406447
New WTC when?
Come on, R07.
I'm dying for a new mystery.
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>>151411475
Nigga I'll fight you
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>>151411742
But can you fight the truth?
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>>151408309
It's worth it when you manage to get it working. You'll also need to get Chiru on top of it.
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>>151411530
Whatever happened to that Space Marine Visual Novel that he announced?
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>>151406667
The art style for this is crappy
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Merry Christmas and remenber, magic is real.
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Read up to ep 5 but I can't be assed to continue any more, please spoil me.
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>>151412986
Gohda did it all
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Umineko was boring
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>>151411805
I'll fight it with my dick fag
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>>151413403
You are a huge faggot, senpai. It was the best time I ever had on /a/.
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>>151408664
I love Erika!
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Seacats threads were always the best.
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>>151413826
I was not aware, thanks for the info anon.
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>>151408714
In case people weren't aware, in the recently translated Majikoi A-2, the robot Aisu is voiced by Kuwatani Natsuko, who also provided Erika's voice in the Umineko VN. It's only the second time she's done h-scenes in a visual novel, so if you liked her voice for Erika you might enjoy some of these h-scenes.
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Merry Christmas fellow seacats!
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>>151414726
All I want for Christmas is Rosa or Lucifer. Lucifer is highly prefered.
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>>151408333
You tell me
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>>151415702
No sorry, senpai. Not even close.
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>>151415740
You're not helping your case any
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>people playing seacats without R07 sprites
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>>151415893
You know, it's kind of funny. We used to argue over whether R07's poorly drawn sprites were better than the PS3 souless ones, but I think we can all universally agree that the Pachislot sprites are objectively the worst.
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>>151416101
I hope sysadmin is having a comfy Christmas.
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>>151415893
I can understand higu, the art is horrendous. But umineko art is great
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>>151406667
>>151406905
>>151408664
>>151408714
>>151408948
No, best detective coming through.
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>>151412986
Shannon Kanon and Beatrice are the same person. They are the child of Kinzo and his daughter Beatrice, who is the child of the original Beatrice, who was an Italian who arrived on Rokkenjima (where Kinzo was based in the war) with gold from fascist Italy. Beatrice, the child Kinzo had with his own daughter, was offered to Natsuhi as a kid since she and Krauss couldn't conceive. Under stress, she pushed a servant who was carrying the kid off of a cliff, killing the servant. Genji, Nanjo, and Kumasawa hid the fact that the kid survived from Kinzo, afraid he would try and have relations with them like his previous child. Turns out, the kid was a boy and had his genitals smashed by the cliff incident and was raised as a girl until he found out the truth after solving the epitaph, which was meant for him to solve so that Kinzo could apologize for his sin. This, combined with Beatrice's love for Battler, who left the Ushiromiya family and came back at a time when she was still on the fence between loving him and George, drove her to plan the murders. In the real world, all the adults solved the epitaph and stopped Beatrice from carrying out her plan, but had a scuffle over dividing the gold. Beatrice reveals to them that Kinzo made a device from war explosives that would blow up the island at midnight if set to the on position.

continued
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>>151406447
Merry christmas, umineko friends! Why do you think he's so best?
Moontrice best theory
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>>151417862
Eva and Hideyoshi accidentally killed Natsuhi and Krauss when the fighting led to grabbing Beatrice's guns that she had layed out, and amidst arguments over hiding their corpses and escaping criminal punishment, Kyrie shoots Rosa, Hideyoshi, and Eva, and together with Rudolf decides to massacre everyone else and take the money for themselves, hiding the evidence with the bomb. Eva survives and kills both Rudolf and Kyrie. She never told Ange the truth so she would be spared from knowing that her parents killed everyone. Battler survived as well and escaped with Beatrice on a motor boat, but she commits suicide and Battler loses his memories jumping in after her. He is found by a woman named Ikuko and writes forgeries together with her (EPs 3 - 6) in an attempt to resolve the truth of what happened that day. He later meets with Ange (who is now a children's author suffering from cancer) and reveals to her that he has no memory of himself as Battler.
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>>151412986
>Read up to ep 5 but I can't be assed to continue any more, please spoil me.
Me too. What made you give up on it?
Personally I just found it drags on way too much. The Ushiromiya's felt more and more irrelevant yet kept getting countless scenes you had to sit through
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>ywn snuggle up to Lambdadelta next to a fireplace on Christmas and eat candy out of her hair while discussing the merits of hard work and the practical steps necessary to achieving lofty ambitions
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>>151421158
We truly live in the worst kakera
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>>151421158
>ywn go with Erika to a major mall at Christmas, loudly proclaim that Santa Claus doesn't exist, and then get into a meta-level battle of logic as the store Santa feebly tries to defend the fragile dreams of the nearby children.
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Don't leave me alone, /a/. This kakera is too dark and lonesome. There's no one to argue with here.
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>>151424811
I'm here, although I have never read seacats.
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>>151424811
Erika I'm always here for you.
Erika is olev
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>He thinks this thread will die
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>>151424811
Might as well face it. You need a new hobby. Seacats won't cut it anymore.
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I just finished reading a minute ago
Loved every second
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>>151428689
Trick or nothing.
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>>151428689
Did you pick the right ending?
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>You will never go to Krauss's moon hotel
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Lamba>Bern
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>>151418446
The funny thing for me here is that I was coming very close to dropping it through ep 4, but ep 5 brought it back for me and remains my favorite chapter by far. I don't think I completely finished ep 8, but it didn't seem to bring much to the table anyway. Suppose I should get it done for Christmas.
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>>151430343
Someday anon. Someday.
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>>151430476
Wrong.
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DESU
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Rose Guns Days anime by DEEN when.

2nd season of Umineko was of better quality 2bh
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Did your opinion on Kyrie change after the reveal?
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>>151431169
Why are they bullying Battler's mom who did nothing wrong and dies every single time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yNGRsLlb3A
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>>151431011
Honestly I think Rose Guns Days would make a decent anime, and DEEN wouldn't be able to fuck it up too badly since it's so straight forward.
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>>151431169
I liked her more. I also liked Battler and his family even more after that reveal.
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>>151424811
Post Erica porn and I will save you.
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>>151431169
I'm convinced her words to Eva were a mind game to make her miss. EP7's tea party was the cold truth without love after all, peppered with mustache twirling evil.
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What the FUCK was that ending?
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>>151431553
You will never get high quality Erika porn
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>>151431804
It's not fair.
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>>151431721
You probably picked the goat ending instead of the GOAT ending.
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>>151431931
>>151431553
I DESIRE FULL IMAGES
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>>151431804
>>151431931
To fill the void, suggestive or regular art can be just as good with imagination. And written stuff is <very good> as well.
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>>151432018
Same. He should link on /h/ and paste the links here.
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Erika's <good> makes me hard
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>>151431984
>tfw you will never travel the world on a boat with Erika
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It's been so many years now and I still haven't played episode 8. It was shannon, right? Shannon was the witch.
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>>151431553
>>151431931
Did you commission a moonman to do these and you're withholding the goods? If so, I must commend you, because I've never seen those images
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>>151432018
>>151432034
Merry Christmas fags
>>>/h/4483578
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>>151432322
I have the full image >>151432332
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>>151432332
B-Bruh
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>>151432332
Merry Witchmas goat
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What if umineko remake by Ufotable?
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This is now a lewd Erika thread.
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>>151432609
ufotable is pretty shitty with dialogue so even though it would look good I don't think it would work.
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Let us all fap to Erika together. She deserves to get gangbanged
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>>151432671
Post a lewder Erika.
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>>151432687
We can all agree that Umineko, Ufotable, and a competent writer would be the ideal match up, though. The glowy shiny digital effects that they are known for would be perfect for umineko's magical battles.
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OH DESIRE
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ok so i decided to give this a shot, where can I get a copy of seacats?
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>>151435856
you can buy the first 4 chapters on steam. I think erogedownload has the whole thing
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>>151417862
>>151417893
Thanks. The twists and increased complexity and absurdity were fun for a while, but this sounds pretty fucking retarded.
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>>151435856
>>151438345
Do not buy them on steam
http://lambdadeltosblog7thuniverse.tumblr.com/#UMIQ
this is pretty handy if yo uever want to read higurashi or RGD too
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>being able to draw good = souless art
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Elica is stupid
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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!
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Erika tiddies
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>>151441911
/jp/ claims that Erika is bustier than the Stakes.
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>>151441911
>tfw hated Erika at first but after finishing the VN changed my view on her
I want to ravage her tiny pussy
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>>151442100
It was cirstal clear that Erika was the best within the first few hours of episode 5.
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>TFW all the erikabros come out after I go to bed
Wew, I was getting scared that I was the only one left.
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>>151443474
>Wew, I was getting scared that I was the only one left.
You'd be the last bastion of taste left on this planet.
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>During gameplay liked Kyrie and Bern
>After completing realized Eva, Natsuhi and Lambda are superior.
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>>151443508
She's been my waifu for over 4 years. I'll never stop, I ain't no seasonal waifu fag.
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>There are people in this thread preferring Erika and other used goods over /k/ bunny girls

I'll never understand this
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>>151443665
>Wanting to fuck a buncha toys
They're so bland and generic
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>>151443665
If anything they're /g/
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>>151406447
Merry Christmas, Anon!
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>>151407605
Moontrice?

Also when did Shkannon first become popular.
I didn't figure it out till the 6th, but I already had feelings about 5th.
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>>151409277
Merely Pretending to be dead
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>>151446862
Moontrice was the theory that Jessica was Beatrice, based on her tarot card (the moon, which indicates deception apparently), and other odd things about her situation throughout the games. Shkannon was a thing very very early. 2008 was probably when it started gaining popularity.
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FACT: A giant incestuous orgy would have solved all the problems.
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>>151438974
And also maybe just maybe actual genre breaking magic is real, but that's irrelevant.
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>>151447023
this guy gets it
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>>151441650
>good

You can draw with all the talent in the world but still fuck up when you load the game with generic psycho anime-girl faces and slice the tits off of Bern.
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>>151432711
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2CDlfKJnA
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Anyone have the
>I fucked ur Onii-chan
>I fucked ur Cat
pic?
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>>151448066
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>>151447023
I'm sure there's a kakera like that as well. AND STILL THERE IS NO MIRACLE, EVERYONE DIES.
Bern's probably seen some shit.
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>>151416769
I did - my sister and her wife to visit so the five of us had a nice time, I cooked christmas dinner for them all and we exchanged lots of nice pressies.
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>>151443698
>wanting to fuck a corpse
Witch fags are no better
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>>151448528
I wanna fuck her and yank those ears
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>>151448480
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What would sex with Rosa be like?
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Do you think Kinzo masturbates with Beatrice together?
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>>151448588
Yanking is mean. You're supposed to flop them around playfully.
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>>151448961
>Lousy rabbits
>Not into dom
Come on anon
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what the fuck does it mean that yasu was "mutilated"?
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>>151449008
Dick was permanently damaged because Natsuhi had a bad day.
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>>151449041
So it was a dick after all. And yet most people and Yasu himself treat this as if he had a vagina.
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>>151449000
We are not lousy. They are cute, smart, and useful.
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>>151416769
Damn, he really needs to lose weight.
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>>151412841
you are crappy, yesterday-kun
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>>151449106
Sure you are, you dirty rabbit
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>>151450735
Best Siesta. I want to force a restart on her.
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>>151451456
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>>151445047
Who's the guy on the left?
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>>151417862
>>151417893
So can someone explain to me what the magic shit was all about?

Did witches ever really exist? Where does Bern and Beato and Maria and all of the chessboard shit fit into things? Furniture? Demons? All of that nonsense?

Was it all symbolism or does any of it actually happen?
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>>151452865
Without love, it cannot be seen.
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>>151454130
Indeed
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>>151451997
MC from something something shounen

IIRC is just Conan but with actual plot progression
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>>151452865
The way I see it, magic exists yet it doesn't.
All the meta stuff that was shown in each game didn't happen. So Beatrice the Thousand year old witch and her servants and friends are just Yasu's delusions.
On the other hand Bern and Lamba does exist, yet they can't interfere with the real world, so no one knows they exists for real. Kind of like gods watching over the world.
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>no one posted best girl yet.

What has this world come to?
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>Psst, hey kid. Open the window. I'm not a witch. You don't believe in witches do you?
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Can you guys explain to me how no one figured out that Yasu was dressing up as Kanon and Shannon ?
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>>151449000
Literally worst rabbit. She wouldn't hesitate to toss your ass to the side the moment you became a liability and then go find someone new.
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>>151456318
Because magic is real and witches did it.
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>>151456318
Define no one. Servants knew all about it.
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>>151456318
can you explain battlers locked room in ep5?
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>>151456318
Lots of servants were coming and going before Oct 4 1986 that Krauss and Natsuhi didn't necessarily pay that much attention to. The gameboards are a different and acceptable case because they aren't reality and are constructed purposely. Nanjo, Kumasawa, and Genji knew. Jessica definitely should have known though. We could guess that maybe Jessica and Kanon's relationship was exaggerated in the message bottle game to illustrate a point. If Shannon or Kanon is one of the first to die in his plans, it becomes a piece of cake in a high tension situation. It's a weird scenario for sure, so all we can do is guess about the logistics. Unless one of them does die the first twilight, there's way too little room for him to keep the two separate and out of the eyes of everyone else.
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>>151457166
Also, remember that there are accomplices in all the gameboards that are outside of the three that knew (i.e. Eva and Hideyoshi), so we can assume that in the real world if his plans were to go into action, those accomplices would know as well, reducing the number of people that have to be in the dark about it.
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>>151457083
The man known as Battler went into the room and died. Then the man called Black Battler walked out of the room.
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Can Umineko be considered a piece of literature?
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>>151459549
One of the greatest stories ever told.
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>>151459549
Only the manga, VN is trash
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>>151460542
you want to fight my dude
the music is about half the experience
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>>151448480
No I won't believe it. Surely just as Leon could survive I will believe in the power of incest!!!!!!!!!
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>>151447023
Didn't incest basically cause all the problems in the first place? How would more incest fix them?
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Only wolrdend,answer,happiness of marionette,far,ressurrected player and alive among few others are good.

Just blow em from your loudspeakers while reading anon.
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>>151449082
>>151449082
Strictly speaking Yasu could have been a girl.
It would explain why Genji thought Kinzo would still fuck them, and the mutilation could mean collapse of the vaginal cavity.
Granted unless some form of Trauma to the abdomen (ovaries?) can explain not getting a period Yasu is a dude.
Granted maybe some really obscure and unlikely condition can solve it.
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>>151461798
>>151461998
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>>151461998
>only wolrdend,answer,happiness of marionette,far,ressurrected player and alive among few others are good

The wrongest person on 4chan everybody
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>>151455597
I'm pretty sure the meta stuff does happen, but not in the "real world" it happens in the afterlife. Basically a grand scheme to just make everyone forgive each other for when they die.
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>>151461998
next your going to say you don't think magic isn't real
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>>151445047

Crimes disguised as supernatural shit? Bern should have called these guys.
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>>151456318
All the servants knew and helped.
Krauss and Natsuhi treat all of them as furniture. I actually doubt they even knew that Shannon was close friends with the cousins.
Jessica honestly probably suspected it but pretended not to know or rather wouldn't allow herself to realize the truth.
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>>151462038
But its true. Only other tracks worth mentioning are organ shorts,discolor and birth of the GW

>>151462203
No such thing anon. Everything was ust fatherly, non platonic love and a wine gone bad
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>>151461938
The adults were all secretly down to fuck each other. Blame Kinzo's genes.

Yasu fucking all the cousins in a giant orgy would have maybe cause some tension between Battler and George but really they'd probably just duel for "her" honor with jetpacks or something.
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I'm seriously considering hypnosis to forget spoilers about Umineko. I got into it in 2010 I think, thanks to the anime, and when I see how great were the old threads in 4chan about the visual novels, I hate to think I missed that. Also, I got spoiled hard about Yasu and I don't think there are much more mysteries left so I didn't even read the last 2 episodes.

I can't have good Umineko threads and insane theories in 4chan anymore, but at least I would like to read the novels unspoiled and see what would I come up with.
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>>151461998
Sorry, but around 80% of Umineko's songs were good to top tier and they're all worth listening to. Furthermore the way the music was set in conjunction with the text is completely lost if you're just playing random songs with the manga. You are clearly someone with no appreciation for art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2Sso-JoO4
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>>151461998

I love Usan no Kaori and The Great Detective Knows and still listen to them occassionally.
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>>151462260
>Hey guys are those some Japs?
>It's cool guys Shaggy and Scoob are Weabs.
>Wow fuck you Velma you speak Nihongo too.

But how can you say magic isn't real when you have a talking dog?
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>>151462321
piano tracks like thanks for being born are also good anon. but its not just the music but its placement with the scene. also magic is totally real
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>>151456318
>>151462295

Ussually the servants weren't all together in the mansion. Shannon and Kanon didn't have any reason to be together except special occassions like the family gathering, and no one had any reason to be suspicious of them never being together. Since Genji and Kumasawa knew about them, and they were probably the ones to arrange the servants' shifts, they would have covered them.

I think Natsuhi maybe knew about them, but since she was hiding her own shit (Kinzo's death) maybe they struck a bargain?
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>>151462321
Anon, you are wholly and completely ignorant. Allow me to correct your mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6YgNtJNr6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV0OnZtHHz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJCObVmVr7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A44lG8CJfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBdrlg2zVH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQK2QbMW-Qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxliVmx39OI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHOh9tTNfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLSAv8vhgsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGI1XWx1szM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4GGsj39H8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O18lICr-5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpwgLtnWJgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZddhshK0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7f2vPCSwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8uODRkXEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--vdeq-zTgA
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>>151462499
>But how can you say magic isn't real when you have a talking dog?

Scooby is Shaggy's furniture, he's just hallucinating a talking dog because he's drugged all the time and lonely as fuck.
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>>151462583
Like, zoinks Scoob, how are we gonna get out of this web of red truth?
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>>151462572
I think I have slogged through the tracks but I could give those a shot.
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>>151462705
DELETE THIS
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>>151462756
But she has such a punchable face and personality, anon

I'd punch her,you would punch her,we would all punch her
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Quick question. I've been thinking of a sidestory unrelated to Umineko but with the same rules of the Red and Blue Truth. Would you consider counting a pregnant woman's child as a person a valid answer to create some mysteries? Like, a closed room where the witch says "there are two corpses/dead people inside this room" and the detective can see two dead people, but one is actually playing dead and the second corpse is the spoiler.
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>>151462652
>>151462583
>In the 1960s the American government was performing experiments on allowing animals to talk
>By the way to preempt you this does not violate any rules because this isn't mystery this is BACKSTORY
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Your threadly reminder that Umineko is shit and it killed the When they cry series dead
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>>151463171
Only if you hint she's pregnant first.
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>>151463354
Yeah, like have a saucy sex scene flashback.
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>>151463354
>>151463422

She couldn't be overtly pregnant or it would be obvious. To not go into much details, she got knocked up and dumped but the guy doesn't know she got pregnant from their affair.
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>>151463325

Oh c'mon Anon. I didn't have a clue about culprits but even I realized after Beatrice introduced the Red Truth that they could end up in the same side. The Red Truth meant that Beatrice would eventually be cornered, and giving it to Battler meant that she had some interest in the mistery being solved. And the sexual tension between these two could be sniffed miles away.

Anyway I wouldn't be so forgiving of a murderer, be it a witch or a transexual with 3 personalities who got dropped off a cliff when it was a child.
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>>151463318

>The blue and red wedges penetrating Scooby's body dissolved, and he stood up again
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>>151463679
This shit writes itself. Scooby and the gang tag along for the family conference. Gohda is their best friend.
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>>151463626
That image is an example, but the writing in this just went wayyyyyyy downhill.

Ep1 being the pinnacle, it was actually very tight, and a good murder mystery.

Then it gets to a point in ep 5-6 when three separate groups are all using misinformation and the story becomes so fucked that there are multiple total resets in canon to sort this shit out. It's completely fucked and a terrible murder mystery, it can't be solved without outside agency.

That and just fuck the meta and all the 4th wall ironic and post ironic bullshit it entails forever. Even managed to ruin Higurashi by association, which is actually impressive.

Only good thing that came out of it was pic line of comics
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>>151463758
It can be and was solved more or less before EP5 came out. The writing is faulty and lacking, but the point was never truly in the mystery.
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>>151462838
>you would punch her

No, I would drown her in hugs and head pats.
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>>151463171
I woudnt really count a fetus as a person but its really more of a political question.
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>>151463679
>>151463754
The one flaw in the story is you'd need to keep Fred away from Shannon and Beatrice 100% of the time.
He's too specialized in solving cases like hers.
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>>151463835
But everyone laughed it out and assumed it was an asspull.

Take out the writing, then the story is about a girl coming to realize that her whole family is dead as fuck.

Which I actually wouldn't mind in principle, but what punctures my dick is that we spend so much time with character and in scenarios that weren't real, never happened and were essentially meaningless. Think about, for example, all the Rosa and Maria characterization, moments, growth etc. Well that was 100% bullshit because not only did it not happen, but it was a 'whoever ran the game' spin. So it DEFIANTLY didn't happen.

Music's good though. but not for 5-8, that was just passable.
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>>151463171
>>151463902
>>151463506
Or do a double subversion.
Have her be obviously pregnant declare there are two dead people, making them think "Oh its obvious someone is faking" then reveal the pregnancy was a lie.
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>>151463866
Good man.
I want to get drunk with Bern and Lambda and Rika.
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>>151463977
They are not meaningless. They characterize every character effectively and build both their flaws and positive points. Not everything "never happened". Scenes from outside of the game board are not necessarily parts of the forgeries/did not necessarily never happen, and scenes on the game board still always retain consistent character qualities.

>but not for 5-8

Incorrect. Again.
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>>151463977
Well in theory you can could just the various Kakeras are real and you can just assume some version of them did turn out that way.

See the thing is the existence of actual magic real shoot fire from my eyes magic doesn't invalidate the story on the island not having magic.
Like the entire meta thing can be 100% real, but have nothing to do with the island.

Also all the backstory taking place off the island is basically 100% real.
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>>151463758

I consider the fact that, as >>151463835 said, most of the mystery could be solved with the first fourth episodes, as evidence that it wasn't that shitty. When you read it again, you have moments like EVA and Battler's final showdown, when she never denied the multiple personality option, that shows that there really were hints to solve the mistery if that's what you care about (but most details about the backstory couldn't be deduced). Also, I'm pretty sure the first episode can't be solved by itself because you lack evidence to discard a lot of suspects. The point was never the mistery (again, as >>151463835 said), if you only care about the mistery and nothing else you got a warning with Erika that you're not supposed to look at it through these lenses.
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>>151463754
And tonight for dinner we have a luscious cut of beef, basted in a broth filled with local herbs and spices. Accompanying it is a series of four different types of sauce, each based around a different ingredient found in the cities to which each of the Ushiromiya's live. For the appetizer we have a simple fish dish, baked on top of a traditional Japanese brazier and accompanied by a light salad with a olive-vinaigrette dressing. For desert we have a pumpkin and apple spice souffle topped by a dash of homemade vanilla gelato.

And no, I did not forget Mr. Shaggy and Mr. Scooby. For the two of you we have a frozen cheese pizza and hot dogs with plenty of katchup and mustard. Bon appetit
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>>151464133
Uu Uu! <Scooby Doo!>

Uu Uu! <Scooby Doo!>
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>>151464119
>>They are not meaningless. They characterize every character effectively and build both their flaws and positive point
Untrue; this is in parallel with the writing, the amount of half-truths and false narratives destroy this because it gets so reductionist the actual facts of what physically happened is lost. In the end I'm fairly certain not even the writer could tell you exactly what happened. And the best character moments happened in 'magic' scenarios anyway, so discount those as you have and already the game is worthless.

>>151464122
Ah, your missing ANOTHER layer of bullshit; the author introduces another false narrator into the backstory of the gold. So NO we actually don't have a 100% on the events leading to the island. Because nothing is certain write your own story 5deep10U

>>151464124
Erika feels like a character that was put in there to remind fans not to question THAT much.

I also feel like retroactively you can say it can be solved, but that's just things he left in the background. Like he never planned for the servants to do it, but he left in certain pieces which he could later link back to and say LOOK PLANNED THE WHOLE TIME when really they were just put there in the 'figure something out later' category.
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>>151463977

I think you didn't got the meaning of the "magic" scenes. They were fake but they represented something.

Eva becoming the Golden Witch in Episode 3 represents the fact that, inside the board, she learnt the truth (even if it was because the murdered revealed after her, and she also found the gold). In Episode 5 Battler solves the mistery and because of that he becomes the Golden Witch, which establishes that solving the mistery == being the Golden Witch.

All the meta plot in Ep 6 was Battler showing off what's going on inside Beato's head (and in a certain way flaunting it in front of Erika, who probably just dismissed all the metaplot as bs), the real explanation is that they all faked their deaths to prank Erika but that doesn't mean the metaplot has no meaning or bears no clues.

The meta plot in Episode 4 has Kinzo appearing and being recognized by the family despite him being dead hints at another person being a possible heir of Kinzo, Battler goes as far as stating it with Blue and Beato doesn't contradict him.

In Episode 2 Beatrice appears before Rosa and Maria, hinting at her being a real person.
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>>151464444
>even if it was because the murdered revealed after her

I meant "even if it was because the murderer revealed before her"
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>>151464376
It was pretty clear even in the first game that the servants had to be in on the murders in some form - you wouldn't be able to pull it off without them.

And even in the first game there were some serious oddities, like Kanon getting killed during his face off with the witch, and then having his body disappear, being the only victim whose body they didn't find (they even found Kinzo's body).
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>>151464133
>Gohda ends up getting so angry at Shaggy and Scooby for making him cook shitty food he decides to kill them, but they keep getting lucky and Gohda ends up slowly killing everyone else off by accident.
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>>151464376

It boils down to most scenes being fake. But based on the premise from Ep1 that magic is not real, if Battler were to win you would have to expect a lot of things being fake. I kinda expected everything to be happening inside his head and I knew the author would have to pull a lot of bullshit to make it make sense.

I think you might be right about your last spoiler, when I read about Will Wright in the 7th episode I felt he would include his 20 rules, like Knox's rules, but he couldn't pass the "servants shouldn't be culprits" rule and thus dropped it.
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>>151464444
Good fucking God Umineko has got to be the most obtuse, convoluted, pretentious shit I've read through.

That's why I like it.
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>>151464376
>the actual facts of what physically happened is lost

No it's not, because the character qualities are consistent.

>And the best character moments happened in 'magic' scenarios anyway

This is subjective and you're completely ignoring much of the other subtle and extended character interactions throughout the story. Your insistence on assuming every narrator is a false narrator lines up perfectly with your insistence that this story is all about the mystery, which it is not. You've been deluded into not trusting anything that you're shown in the story, meaning you can't see any of the character qualities for what they are. Blame the writing or not, that does not overshadow the actual positive qualities of this story that you are blatantly choosing to ignore. The writing and the narrative structure does not poison the character qualities, and not everything you are shown is a delusion. We DO know what happened on Rokkenjima and what led to the tragedy, even if we accept the meta entanglement exacerbated by the manga.

>I also feel like retroactively you can say it can be solved, but that's just things he left in the background.

I think you should try actually rereading the series knowing the truth.
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>>151464553

When you reread the first four episodes you realize Kanon's deaths are always incredibly shady.
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>>151407817
The best followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymBixP5rQU
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>>151464721
When you reread episode 2 you feel like a retard for not instantly solving the mystery, but that's just how these things go.
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>>151463907
>He confronts George in mostly broken Japanese saying they must be men of similar taste
>George has no idea what Fred means
>Ah "In the closet" I see its cool one day you'll be able to admit it
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>>151464685
>literally calling me deluded
Kek, check the seacat over here

>your deluded therefore my point stands
No it bloody doesn't. The writer fucked up, the amount of false narrators gets the point that facts are unverifiable, literal meaning and metaphor are just fucked and everything is meaningless. Do you remember where the "series" ends? Giant pirate ships attacking the golden land in the Meta. This from ep1 being just solidly written murder mystery. It just illustrates how convoluted everything became near the end.

>We DO know what happened on Rokkenjima
No we don't. The game flat out encourage you to accept your own truth, write your own shit etc. The upside being the writer can get out of writing a piece of shit because now he can pass it on to YOU to finish instead.
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>>151464674

I wouldn't call it "pretentious". I have friends who refused to watch it because they couldn't even accept the premise of Battler discussing that magic doesn't exist in front of a witch who appeared in front of him, and I can't blame them or call them idiots because they have a point.

The author stated, from the moment Beatrice appeared and the goal changed from solving the mistery to prove magic wasn't involved (while time is reset again and again with no explanation), that this was going to be a freaky trip. You can like it or not, but if you don't accept those premises you can't enjoy Umineko. You can't even solve it because, just like Erika, you would be stuck ignoring all the magic subplot (if you don't ragequit when it's revealed that any scene not witnessed by Battler can be fake).
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>>151464870
No the truth that was given is the answer. Ange just chooses to believe in the best.
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>>151464947
Ange literally can't handle the truth and dies. Then comes back for reasons I can't remember.

Jesus christ let's not even touch Ange shall we? What a mistake of a direction to take things.
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>>151464762

To be fair, at Episode 02 the rules haven't been completely established so you can't think of Kinzo being dead because he was actually shown alive. The mistery might be simpler if the author hadn't used Kubo-like levels of trolling to hide it, but at the same time, if we accept that Battler as the main character is right and magic doesn't exist, it means we could imagine that magic scenes (and therefore, any scene) could be fake.

But to reach that conclusion by Ep 02 you don't need to think outside the box, you need to burn the box and inhale the smoke to damage your brain.
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Why does this happen every Umineko thread on /a/? They're never convinced so there's no reason to continue this.
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>>151465048
Because you fuckers have a containment board, go to it.
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>>151465067
Why don't you go back to your endless waifu threads?
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I dropped Umineko after Ep8 spoilers came out. But it wasn't until I came back years later when EP8 manga came out that I finally finished Umineko VN after reading it.

Without the manga, I don't think Umineko had a complete ending or at least one that left a good aftertaste.

This is my favorite and the most poignant scene of the series and its manga only.
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>>151464870

>The upside being the writer can get out of writing a piece of shit because now he can pass it on to YOU to finish instead

I'm pretty sure the real truth was given. But a point of the series was that absolute truth is impossible to totally grasp for humans, so even if there's a perfect explanation for what has happened in the end you can believe in something else.


>This from ep1 being just solidly written murder mystery

It wasn't solid, Ep1 by itself is impossible to solve just because the lack of clues. And this was stated before, but this isn't a murder mistery, it just uses murder misteries as a narrative mechanism.
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Rifyu dump to cleanse
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>>151465048

What else could we talk about?
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>>151465178
Thread was fine a moment ago
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>>151463907
>>151464766

>He's too specialized in solving cases like hers
>I can feel what you're hiding behind your legs, Miss Shannon

But was she a boy or a girl? I think she must have been a boy because it's easier to hide a penis than hiding Shannon's boobs, but it's not conclussive.
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>>151465237
>>151465204
I liked these.

Shame the artist went on to lose all the edge.

>>151465108
MULTI THREAD POSTING

>>151465138
The real, objective, the writer intended it truth can be solved. But really, even that is delivered in an 'ironic' way with GOD literally asking 'did you like that ending?' And it gets there through tortured logic, asspulls, revisions and generally all the things that make the story read like bad fanfic.

By solid, I mean Ep1 had literally no magic but a good murder mystery premise. Which was then brutally crushed.
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>>151464992
Ange never dies. Tohya believes Ange would die if she ever found out the truth, which is what he writes as happening in his stories, but that's just his own opinion.
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>>151465387
>I tripped up on yet another layer of bullshitery

DOES IT EVER END
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>>151465416
It's not like it's terribly confusing.
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>>151465609
It's time to stop replying to them now
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>>151465339
>The real, objective, the writer intended it truth can be solved. But really, even that is delivered in an 'ironic' way with GOD literally asking 'did you like that ending?' And it gets there through tortured logic, asspulls, revisions and generally all the things that make the story read like bad fanfic.

Well but the fact that you don't like those things doesn't mean they're bad
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>>151465204

Well you can blame this love lacking faggot >>151463325

Just kidding, he has a point, but in the end it's like complaining about a mecha show being bad because robots with human form are uncreative and impractical, while that is one of the premises of the mecha genre that you're supposed to accept to watch the story.
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>>151465795
But I actually like Higurashi. Still hate Umineko though.
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>>151465299
Would Natsuhi get mad at Jessica for getting fashion tips from Daphnie?
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Something something Erika something something see why kids love something something?
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>>151465880

But didn't her wanted Jessica to be more feminine?
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>>151465973
I'm an adult, but even I can see why everyone loves the sight of Erika bound up in duct tape.
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>>151465838

What does Higurashi have to do with my post?
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>>151465838
>Still hate Umineko though

And why do you get into an Umineko thread just to shit on it (and your first post implies you do it on every seacats thread) and then get mad at people for disagreeing and discussing with you? Are you Erika?
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>>151462446
>Discolor
Patrician taste
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>>151466074
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>>151466617
>Higanbana
>not political
You remember that flower makes you into a bully in 2nd night? That was absolutely political.
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>>151465364
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>>151467388

There has gotta be a comic of Yasu or Leon freaking out when playing pokemon and being asked "What are you Boy or Girl"
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>>151448922
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>>151467388
Why do people like girls crying? I never got that. Not cute at all.
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>>151467468
It's a sign of submission and inability to control their ego.
It's the reason why Rena shows more femininity than Mion and why you never saw her as a woman.
This applies as well for Jessica.
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>>151467468
>girls

topkek
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>>151463977
>meaningless

What is magical realism? Holy fuck dude read a book or two; it's not all about what can concretely be set down as "canon".
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>>151467468
I would probably kill myself if Bernkastel did that instead of Beatrice.
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>>151468666
Meant for >>151468538
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>>151467514
I bet Mion cried when her fingernails got ripped off.
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>>151470042
I bet she masturbated with her still-raw fingers, as her pussy juice acid burned her skin.
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I believe in the Rosatrice theory and there is nothing you can do to change my mind.
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>>151467132
>Higanbana

That shit still exists? I thought it was cancelled or something because I never found anything else after the girl who looked like Maria died for the first time
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>>151470135
In front of the entire Sonozaki family including her grandmother.
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>>151470278
What? Are you talking about the manga?
The VN got translated. Read it. It's less edgy and shit than the manga.
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>>151417862
>>151417893
A small correction.
The events on the island are purposely never truly explained. What is said here is just the most likely outcome.

The start of EP7 purposely has a different story and Dine rules in red text in order to show that red can be used on different fragments. At the end Bernkastel shows that scenario as the 'truth' to test if you were paying attention. Which is why to this day many people were tricked into believing Rudolf and Kyrie are confirmed as the culprits.
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>>151470390

I didn't even know it was a VN, I thought this time it was a manga and nothing else, and for a while I didn't found new chapters and thought it was cancelled or something.

Glad to hear there's a VN, I'll look for it.
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>>151470591
Nah, the manga artist died and people stopped translation it. The VN is well worth reading is less over the top and edgy than the manga.
But that was back in 2011 (?) or so.
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I had blocked the Umineko anime from my mind. I didn't remember it was this bad. I still have some love for it, because otherwise I wouldn't have read the novels, but god it was crappy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrXe84wBwo
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>>151470461
If the EP 7 tea party is what really happened then there's nothing I can do about it, but I definitely prefer the idea that pretty much any one of the murder scenarios could have happened. Every member of that family could become ruthless when the gold shows up. I'd rather not have one concrete "this is how it went down."
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>>151470461
Anon.

Rudolph and Kylie are the culprits.

It's the most dramatically appropriate answer. The one that is foreshadowed.

Plus the EP8 Manga confirms it in red.
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>>151471134
Because him being the killer makes a lot more sense than anyone else.
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>>151471444
Uh, no it doesnt.

In fact the entire point of Black Battler is that Battler being the killer makes no sense.
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>>151471407
>>151470461
7 is what happened, but it's not exactly the truth.
Things could have gone a bit differently within reason.
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>>151471467
Amusingly you can actually solve all of the murder puzzles with Battler, Kyrie and Rudolf as the culprits, as long as Battler and Black Battler are treated as separate individuals for the purposes of the red truth, in the same way that people like to treat Kanon and Shanon as two separate people.
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>>151471588
You do realize that Shannon and Kanon being the same person has tons of foreshadowing and support by the Narrative while Black battler does not.
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>>151471467
No him being the killer is possible its only because he's the detective and the red that we discount it.
It's only impossible for him to do it alone.
He and Yasu together could perform every kill quite easily. You actually need less accomplices if he's one of them.
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>>151471622
You do realize that Rosa being the killer with George has tons of foreshadowing and support by the Narrative while Shkannon does not.
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>>151471648
Or the fact that there's no foreshadowing, evidenc, or support for him being the culprit.

We get into Battlers head more then almost any other character. It is obvious that he is incapable of being the culprit.
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>>151471706
> 2016
> nearly 2017
> still posting rosatrice.
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>>151471739
Not him, but it is still the best theory. Prove me wrong.
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>>151471739
>Current year
>not understanding fucking sarcasm
Goddamn autist.
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>>151471709
Yasu wrote chapters 1 and 2. Tohya/Battler wrote the rest. Of course he wouldn't say he was the killer in his own stories. But there were hints scattered here and there that he and his family could have been in on it.
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>>151471774
You can never be sure with Rosatice anon.

I've seen some real stupid stuff said.
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>>151471826
I don't know how you didn't pick up the sarcasm when I was literally copying you word for word.
Maybe you're the baka.
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>>151471444

Why does it make sense? We follow Battler basically all the time. I'll be honest, I suspected Battler was the culprit at first. I thought he was the culprit but he had blocked what happened in his head, and the witch was an explanation he made for himself in his mind. She was something irrational like a witch because he couldn't bear what he had done but he knew it was the truth.

But try to explain any murders in the first Episode with Battler as the culprit, we followed him all the time. Even if he had a split personality, there's no way he pulled all that shit in the few moments he was alone and outside the sight of any relatives.
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Jesus fucking Christ, how are you people having this conversation and no one is bringing up the red truth that Battler is not the culprit.

Holy fuck.
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>>151471803
Hints that Kylie and Rudolf did it

Battler was no involved.

This is one of the most irritating parts about talking about Umineko. People saw Battler going on about the "Devils Proof" and thought that was the way to go instead of a sign about how he was doing it wrong and so throw out insane "theories" that do not fit the narrative.
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How is R07's new VN?
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>>151472000
It's shit and short.
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>>151471901
No I mean obviously its not him and can't be him.

But I mean from the perspective of could the murders have taken place in the real world as depicted in the story while having Battler as primary or deutagonist criminal?

I'm not proposing a theory I'm just making a hypothetical. I mean really considering what "really" happened then you'd basically need to change nothing about that physical scenario to make him a badguy.
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>>151471899
I'm not proposing he's the criminal I'm just saying if he was an evil asshole (and he's not, but IF he was) I think just him and Yasu could pull of all the kills without changing his supposed physical actions during the events (obviously you'd need to change basically all the internal monologue, but that's my point)
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>>151471899
nope its specifically hes not the CULPRIT, but he can in fact be an accomplice and one of the assistants in murder. All it means is he was not the mastermind.
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>>151406667
Speaking of play, Is anyone going to play Seacats Fightan?
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>>151475058
You mean OMK?
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>>151471709
>We get into Battlers head more then almost any other character.
Doesn't really apply to a story of "resets" like what Umineko is (not to mention the revelations later on about parts of the story being written by different characters and so on). Fact is that we actually don't know much at all about Battler's past compared to a lot of other characters.
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>>151475346
Yes. Who do you use?
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I really want to fuck Cornelia.
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>>151475495
I would fug every Seacat. Rance Style.
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>>151471444
>>151471467
Isn't Black Battler specifically the version of Battler we see in Chapter 7's Tea Party? He even has a super attack where Kyrie & Rudolph shoot the shit out of the opponent with him standing there laughing.
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>>151475476
I guess I might play a little more when the translation comes for OMK+ from Mangagamer.
I usually play Battler/Erika, sometimes Bern/Erika or Battler/Jessica.

Fucking Erika with her Erikopter and super strong air game, she's just so much fun. And characterwise those are all my favorite characters. I've tried really hard to play as Dlanor but I'm no good with her command grab.
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>>151475715
I usually play Jessica/George or ShKanon. They have a nice contrasting style.
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I can't be the only one who learnt to enjoy bullying and light ryona thanks to Umineko and Erika right?
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>>151475715
>>151475982
Battler/Kanon and Battler/BlackBattler reporting in.

B/K simply rapes the other players by abusing Battler's meta-ult and Kanon's perk. B/BB has similar yet different playstyle between the two characters.

Overall, it's fun as fuck.
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>>151406447
You know, I'm rewatching it, now.
At least an uncensored version's out after the seven years.
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>>151477510
Why would you do that to yourself?
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>>151463171
>Implying a fetus is a human
You're really triggering me senpai
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>>151464376
Shannon was being thrown around early as ep 3 though
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>>151464878
>Watch it
Fucking pleb, your friends won't "watch it" because they have fucking tastes.
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>>151478603
AHA! Alright please state in red when life begins. You can't can you?
Rosa was hiding her secret pregnancy with another baby. That's why she needed money so bad. The child was born on the first night, using mystery trick X to create a closed womb mystery. Before he was born there were eighteen people. After he escapes there are nineteen people.
Motive: not enough motherly love.
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>>151479179
Imagine lawyers trying to use red/blue truths.
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>>151475715
George/Battler. Their passive switch abilities work really well with each other.
Eva/Erika. That mad damage boost they have is really powerful. And the Metasupers they have're just great.
BBattler/Will. Cause fuck your movement and fuck your HP bar.
And if you want to be an asshole, BBattler/Beato and spam ranged meter attacks.
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>>151479179
>using mystery trick X to create a closed womb mystery
Nice
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What would Battler think of her?
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>>151479590
What was her deal again? All I remember about that show was the episode where the lead and that chick's sister spoke english the entire time + the heroine having a cute butt
I guess she and Battler can talk about the joys of incest together or something
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>>151475715
EVA/Dlanor

EVA/410

Reporting in late
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>>151481380
I want to pump and dump Rosa.
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>>151481380
>>151482839
She's a massive cunt
I dunno why I love her so much
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>>151484159
>I dunno why I love her so much
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>>151484159
I hate her and want to bully her.
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>>151484220
Imagine being a guest on the island during the reunion and trying to get in her pants.
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>>151484760
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>>151484760
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>>151484996
Another full sized and de-watermarked lewd merchandise image for my collection. Thank you Anon, here's another in return.
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>>151430476
Someone please post a smug lambda from the game (ps3 sprites) I need it. Right now. Have a smug bern in return.
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>>151484760
But she fucked a lot man. It's already roasted beef sandwich
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>>151485245
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Fuck is a seacat?
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>>151485283
Chicken of the sea
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>>151485283
An うみねこ
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You think Bernkastel already got dicked senseless? She's trying to escape boredom, so I guess she must have had tons of orgies until it just became boring.
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Why is Ange so cute?
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I hate Bernkastel. She's bitch
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>>151485398
God tier Ushiromiya genetics
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>>151485279
too low res gimme good smugs now
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>>151463977
>meaningless
If you truly accepted that magic doesn't exist, you should've guessed that it would all be "meaningless" by EP4 already.
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>>151485546
Ask nicely you shitty goddamn brat
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>>151411919
I thought it was just one piece of art. Nothing really announced.
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>You'll never ravage Ange.
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Is this magic?
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new WTC WHEN
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>>151417862
>>151417893
>Anon telling all this lies and the gullible idiots who never played actually believing it
This is way too funny, well played anon.
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>>151486940
>shading
>actual, non-full-retard Higanbana-tier shading
Yes, this is magic.
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>>151449082
Always thought was a Hemaphrodite who managed to get both genitals fucked up in the fall, making for a true cat box.
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>>151487847
Shut it you pleb. Chiaroscuro shading is fucking great.
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>>151485398
She also has her personal Stake.
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>>151462446
Alright then /a/, why dont you show me the track that you most hated or thought was the worse one in Umineko?
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>>151488418
Nighteyes, Victima Propiciatoria, and that one vocal track that plays when Beato dies in EP5
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Discolor is a shit, alive is the best
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>>151488559
>not fake red shoes
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>>151464124
>When you read it again, you have moments like EVA and Battler's final showdown, when she never denied the multiple personality option, that shows that there really were hints to solve the mistery if that's what you care about (but most details about the backstory couldn't be deduced)
Thats actually how I thought multiple personality was involved and ended up in the Shkannon theory, I just ended up denying it because I thought Jessica wouldnt be dumb enough to have never noticed. Though, I guess her sidestory about getting epic pranked should be hints that she's in denial. Still sounds pretty stupid.
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>>151488418
That music that plays during Jessica's concert
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>>151488665
Wait, there are duwang subs for anime?
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>>151488783
I have no idea.
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>>151488691
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>>151488251
>Chiaroscuro
anon pls
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Where is Rosa ora-ora-ora video? It was deleted from youtube
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>>151471709
Original Battler Might be different than the Battler we saw throught the story though, and the reason is quite simple.
Battler grew to hate the Ushiromiyas during his 6 years of absence, his mother died and no one gave a single fuck, everyone just accepted Kyrie as a substitute.
Personally, I think he used his parents ploy to kill all the family, and then murdered his parents himself, before running away with Yasu, who he might or might not have killed.
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>>151489312
Probably my favorite fringe theory, but it really doesn't work without significant additions to the story.
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>>151489401
It definitely is my favorite one.
Shame most of Battler's past is vague.
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>>151489574
Do you have a link for complete collection of such portrait paintings or something?
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>>151489730
That was part of the box art for Ougon Musou Kyoku if I remember correctly. The other half is Beatrice, but all I have of that is pic related.
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>>151488783
[DameDame!]
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>>151488418
Stupefaction is objectively the worst track in Umineko.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76lu7TCvOg
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>>151489312
>Battler "claimed" he was living with his grandparents for 6 years
>In fact, he had joined Yamainu and was working as a child soldier Okonogi under the codename Amakusa.
>6 years later "Battler" returned to Rokkenjima with the goal of killing everyone, all as part of Okonogi's plan.
>After surviving the explosion, he he created a new identity for himself, "Tohya" and began writing slash-fiction on the internet involving himself, his younger sister and a transvestite.

Without love it can't be seen.
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Why was Chiru so fucking bad? The original was flawed, but overall good.
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>>151491353
something something the guy who used to help him write died something something
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>>151491353
But Chiru was fucking great.
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>>151492081
I only like the EPS where Erika was in it
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>>151492215
So 75% of Chiru and 0% of the first game.GOOD taste.
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>>151491353
It had it's good bits. Dlanor should've been introduced sooner if anything as a counter to the Devil's Proof stuff. Erika was fun. The closer looks at the aunts were nice. Ange was actually nice and not annoying outside of Chapter 4. Bern's challenge was fun.
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>>151493077
Why Eva married an ugly man such as Hideyoshi?
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>>151494407
Because he had a nice personality.
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Bernkastel best seacat
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holy shit, the superior xmas video is not on youtube anymore for some reason, so I'll have to use this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGcvDmPTbQ
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Who is best girl?
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>>151494407
He's a cool guy though. Eva probably didn't have the self esteem to marry someone attractive anyway.
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>>151496612
Spider girl.
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How good is the VN?
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>>151494793
Dont need any red truth to understand that. Berncutesel is best girl & witch.

>>151499750
Its like Higurashi with x10 the ambition, yet its not quite as good. Very enjoyable, if you don't expect too too much from it. A must read.
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>>151494901
Mirror?
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>>151488418
That fucking one that starts full of engrish and goes on with house shit
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>>151494407

Hideyoshi had humble origins (not poor, but not a businessman either) and he made himself a name. He's similar to Kinzo in that regard, which has been said in the series, and Eva has massive daddy issues. Fucking Hideyoshi was the closest she got to fuck her father.

In fact, given how similar she is to Beatrice, it's a wonder Kinzo hadn't boned her.
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>>151478603

Original anon here, I know it can be triggering, but if multiple personalities in the same body can count as human beings I don't see how much of a stretch it is to count a fetus.
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>>151501956

I remember when I thought Beatrice was Kinzo's children's mother just because they had all European looks and Eva had a similar hair color and hairstyle.
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Who was the most unfortunate Ushiromiya?
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>>151502302
jessica
shes the only one who didnt do anything worng
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>>151502302
Jessica
>Her dad hated her because he wanted a son so she started acting like a boy
>Her mom hated her because she was acting like a tomboy and not a cute girl
>Lived alone on an island without anyone around
>Her only friends were her cousins
>The fun one didn't even show up for 6 years
>Get so lonely you try and befriend the maid
>That just makes parents even more mad
>Servants all play mean pranks on you
>Fall in love with a servant boy because there is literally no one else around
>That boy is actually the maid playing another prank on you
>Finally die in fiery explosion
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>>151502435
The moral of Higurashi was, Believe In Your Friends. Jessica decided to believe in her friend and the person she loved and got killed for it.

The moral of Umineko is, trust no one.
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>>151502608

But she wasn't killed by the person who she loved, she was killed by his insane alter ego. The most fitting moral would be never stick your dick/pussy in crazy.
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>>151488418
monochrome clock because it started playing on my mp3 player right as final call for my flight was broadcast and somehow I'd been waiting around the complete opposite end of the terminal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrlAFmpKPy4

>>151462446
Soar
terminal_entrance
7-weights
lixAxil
Aci-L
Final Answer
liberatedliberater
miragecoordinator
goldenslaughterer
worldenddominator
Yomitsu Hirasaka Corruption
discolor
dead angle
death(from_stupefaction)
ruriair
Patchwork Chimera
The Girl's Witch Hunt
Bizarre Divertimento
fall
the executioner
ridicule
ALIVE
Fake Red Shoes
mortal_stampede
haze
Over_the_sky
dir
Black Lilliana
The_End_Of_The_World
A Single Moment
Answer
Golden Nocturne
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>>151485329
For somebody this far along in learning Japanese, I'm embarrassed as fuck because it took me typing "umineko seacat" into Google before I understood what the deal was.

Seems that not even learning Japanese will cure my stupidity. What do?
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>>151502340
>>151502435
Jessi was unfortunate, but remember:

Battler almost became the catalyst for something he couldn't have possibly understood and came out of it all with brain damage

Maria was repeatedly abused and neglected by Rosa and bullied by her peers at 9 years old

George was forced into rigorous studies and extracurricular activities by Eva

Ange lost everyone in her family but Eva at 6 years old and lived a good chunk of her life in sadness and bitterness. Also, her parents were murderers.

Beatrice II lived her entire life locked away and taken advantage of by her father, only to be killed right after gaining freedom

Yasu lived his early life as a bullied servant despite being the son of Kinzo, and had his genitalia mutilated as a baby
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>>151504043

I think the one who got the worst out of them was Gohda. He wasn't a member of the family or part of the original staff (who were all on board with Yasu and some of them accomplices of what happened to Beatrice II), he just wanted to cook his weird dishes for someone with taste and money.
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>>151504673
Meh, he didn't suffer though. He seems to have had a good life, and just died because he was working for the wrong family at the wrong time. That shit happens every day.
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tfw too terrible to color
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