Why are you guys so obessed with JoJo? So far it's not living

>>151397006
Xd

>>151397006
Part 1-2 are very different compared to 3-8. When you finish 2 test the waters with 3 and if you dont like it then it isnt for you. 3 is very slow though. 4 has more going on.

Don't confuse a bunch of annoying ass underage faggots with the rest of /a/. Jojo is the /v/ of anime.

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>>151397154
Yes these children don't understand the deep and refined palate of a professional cartoon watcher such as myself. They couldn't possibly measure up to my level of children's show expertise.

>>151397154
confirmed for not watching past part 3
jojo is a prime example of an author progressively getting better as he writes
every part is more and more complex and arguably mature
part 1 is so bad it's good castlevania rip off
part 7 is a sandman tier graphic novel

>>151397006
But we're not obsessed, you're the one who keeps making threads about it

>>151397154
This is the type of poster who exclusively watches SOL and makes "This is your _____ tonight" threads.

>>151397228
>rofl you don't love eating shit? get a load of this guy he thinks he's a 3 michelin star chef lmaoooo

>>151397281
Please, part 4 which just finished recently was mostly mediocre. inb4 "it gets good after part 5 seriously!"

>>151397281
>part 1 is so bad it's good castlevania rip off
Part 1 is good though its just by far the worst in the series

>>151397320
He said, on the board with jojo generals and where despite this people make other jojo threads anyway.

>>151397345
You watched around a 100 episodes of something you consider shit just to complain about it. Please go get tested.

>>151397410
You'd rather I complain about something I haven't watched? Besides, 20 minutes a week isn't a big investment.

>>151397475
I just don't understand your logic
I understand wanting to give something a fair chance and I think its good that you did this instead of being one of the many people who bitch without watching

But jfc after about 4 episodes of each part you pretty much know what you're in for and whether you'll like it or not. Unless you've absolutely exhausted your backlog and the season is dead I just don't get it.

>>151397531
I suppose I fell for the "it gets good later on" meme. And don't misunderstand, I'm not saying it's a steaming pile of unwatchable shit, just that's it's mediocre and you're all retarded faggots for lauding it as actually good.

>>151397345
>part 4 which just finished recently was mostly mediocre
sounds like you have a case of SHIT TASTE

>>151397591
Honestly its just great shonen fun cool twists and memorable moments. If that's not your thing that's fair but watching it makes me feel like a kid getting hype over whatever was airing on Toonami back then.

In fact I'm kind of envious of the kids who are growing up with the dub version right now, they're going to have some fond memories of it very similar to how a lot of people look back on Dragon Ball.

it doesn't get much more complex than that until part 6 I'd say

>>151397664
Literally only the Kira parts were engaging, and even they had problems. The rest was poorly written inconsistent trash.

>>151397591
If you're up to part 4 the "It gets good later" isn't a meme...

I only care about Master Dio

>>151397708
The twists are part of the problem though since there are quite a few which are poorly done, and many memorable moments ruined because of bad writing creating plot holes. Why does Crazy Diamond bring back Okuyasu when he's being taken away by Chili Pepper to the arm he left behind, but Kira's left behind hand chases him instead of bringing him back to the gang? Then during the epilogue Joseph's wallet is brought back to Josuke via the ripped photograph. Seems like a good amount of events happen (or don't happen) solely for convenience/plot's sake, rather than being backed up by logic, which strikes me as incredibly lazy.

>>151397861
Worst villain, all he's good for is setting up the overarching theme of fate

>>151397006
Don't watch it anon. I'm the same as you, fell for the meme which is JoJo. I watched 20 episodes of it expecting it to be good, what I got are a bunch of faggots punching each other and proving they have the bigger dick

>>151397896
so much as lazy as Araki kinda forgets how his own powers work (or I guess leaves them open is a nicer way of putting it)

in fact this happens at the start of part v but its understandable because the OP already has stupidly strong powers.

Honestly if this bothers you in part 4 don't get excited for part 5 although the fight choreography is amazing

>>151397006
>You guys
I wouldn't know. You should ask on >>>/v/

>>151398050
>the author is retarded but that's a good thing
Why not just watch a comedy?

>>151397709
cool shit opinions my man
I understand not liking shit, but you should understand by part 4 that the show has a really open and unique set up.

In fact by the end of part 1 you should have seen it's value in that the generational format gives them a lot of leeway as far as bad endings go.

>>151398265
Why does Cheap Trick pressure Rohan to burn the photos when his stand user was some neutral party who didn't know shit about anything?

>>151398109
Jojo has comedic moments as well as bad ass moments though
Honestly I think its some weird form of talent that Araki can craft such engaging stories (at least to me) while having flaws like that

Plus as another anon already mentioned its cool to see his progression as a writer.

>>151397006
finish season 1

if you don't like it by then, just kill yourself

>>151398303
Some people are strong enough to get stands but not strong enough to really control them. This happens with Superfly too

There's a guy who's stand only activates when he dies and then goes automatic in the same way that Cheap Trick does

>>151398312
So basically you're the type of person who values style over substance. Got it.

>>151398346
But why does Cheap Trick have that agenda? How does it even know about the photos? Somehow every stand born from the arrow is instantly anti-jojo? What's even in it for him?

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>>151398303
oh there are problems and plot holes abounding in part 4

not trying to say that

to me it's excusable because of what is gained from the uniqueness of the show

you should really understand why people fucking love it by part 4

Part 7 is legitimately fucking amazing though, you can read it stand alone as well. Religous themes everywhere, incredible villians, everybody has a sympathetic backstory, a multi-layered plot, and crazy good artwork.

>>151397281
>>151397345

It doesn't REALLY get good until part 7.

Part of the charm of Jojo is watching Araki progress, both artwise and writing-wise, and watching him falter, too.

Vento Aureo has extremely charming character interactions(It's essentially Stardust Crusaders: Italian Road Trip) with intense stand battles and a villain that makes NO SENSE, and a godawful fucking ending.

Stone Ocean is mostly a shonen battle manga that starts off very charming, and has some great slice of prison life scenes, before it goes completely off the fucking rails. You also get some very touching Jotaro moments, and some comedy gold.

Steel Ball Run is just amazing all the way through. It's so good, and I can't think of anything bad to say about it.

Jojolion is an interesting REBUILD OF JOJO story that plays with the reader's expectations, assuming they read previous jojos, but is a very engaging mystery story all on its own, with cute romance.

>>151397345
Oh no I was agreeing with you. Only the finest of children's cartoons for me please, anybody who doesn't understand my sophisticated anime taste honed from hundreds of hours of watching toons obviously has shit taste and should fuck of this board.

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>>151398440
>it gets good after 50 hours trust me

>>151398453
You jest, but jojo generaltards really should fuck off.

>>151398378
>So basically you're the type of person who values style over substance. Got it.

I don't get why people treat this as such a bad thing and why you can never prefer one over the other depending on the media but yeah sure.

As for Cheap Trick's agenda thats a good question. If I had to guess I would assume that since Kira's father's will was stronger than the guy he shot it influenced the stand's desire.

>>151398440
Personally I think that everything regarding the Devil's Palm and the Holy Corpse was retarded. It's like Araki never really decided how that stuff worked until the last chapter.

>>151398488
>>it gets good after 50 hours trust me

You've had no issue burning all of this time already on a series you find mediocre so you shouldn't take any issue with this prospect, right?

>>151398488

But the previous parts were still fun, even if they weren't what I'd call good.

And I really like seeing Araki progress as he writes.

>>151398517
To be fair he only found it mediocre after he watched the episodes. If he still thinks it's mediocre by Part 2 than Jojo I just not for him, there are other shows out there to watch.

>>151398517
Guess you have a point there. Well at least I'll be maintaining my opinion until part 7 then.

>>151398550
Go watch some people livestream their lives on niconico or something then. I'd rather follow the progress of a good story by a good author rather than follow a series for the author himself.

>>151398488
>it gets good after 50 hours
part 7 can stand alone though
I mean I don't give a shit, if you obsess so much over plot holes it sounds like you care more about story than you do characters and themes in which case you won't like part 7 anyway because while it has a good plot it's characters are what make it shine.

>>151398620

Why don't you tell us what's good, then?

How could Kira manually activate Bites the Dust when he was holding the woman hostage?

>>151398640
For comparison's sake, I'd say HxH is a good example of what I consider good when it comes to adventure/battle series. The power system is structured well and mostly consistent (Togashi better have a good explanation for Alluka) and the plot flows in a logical, plausible manner, including the twists.

Jojo is literally the new pleb test.

>lol why so obsessed with jojo i watched it and etc etc
>watched
>watched

lol ora ora it was me dio read the fucking manga

>>151398746
The anime is good tho

But seriously read the fucking manga instead of continuously watching a show you find average since part seven probably won't even be out this decade

Was anyone else disheartened by how elderly Joseph didn't do any ruses like his younger self

I really want to believe that theory that he's taking senility to dodge blame for Josuke but I don't know

>>151398827
He was relatively lucid after his first appearances.

Just happens when you get old, even to guys like Joseph.

>>151398663
It was shown in the anime specifically where Josuke and co. exploded that KQ seems to manually activate it to make it explode.KQ appearing outside of that though I have no idea but in all honesty it probably wouldn't have made the difference since Act 3 would still hit Kira's arm which then would affect KQ's own arm and Jotaro can just attack Kira's body to end it the same way so it's probably just for the rule of cool.

>>151398896
I meant more what would be the trigger. Hayato had to reveal his identity in some way or be in danger for it to activate when he had it, but the woman wasn't going to say his name and she wasn't in any danger.

>>151398663
Either Kira doesn't have any idea how his own ability works or it's a plothole.

Bites the dust is shown to activate when the person Kira gives KQ to divulges something about his identity. This makes sense so far because Kira told the nurse his name, and then KQ appeared in her eyes. From there he should've tried to make her say his name to Josuke and co but instead Araki went for the cool "WHY CAN'T I PRESS THE SWITCH" moment.

>>151398967
Everyone already knew who Kira was at that time so if he had activated the trigger he would've most likely won since BTD erases anyone who knows his true identity and if he chose to stay away from everyone in the next time loop they'll drop like flies.

Kira was actually that close to winning that fight.

>>151399003
I think Killer Queen's Bites the Dusto ability explodes anyone who tries to pursue Kira's identity and is in range of the host. Since the gang were all going to pursue Kira, if Kira was able to establish Bites za dusto, it woulda killed the gang.

>>151399279
The ability has never worked like that. When the gang were with Hayato in one of the loops they only got exploded once they started asking questions.

The only time the ability has worked differently is when he first got it and went back in time to stop himself from killing Hayato in the bath. He must've been going for that kind of effect.

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>>151397006
>tfw if I didn't watch part 3 first I probably wouldn't be a fan of jojo

>>151397709
>inconsistent
Explain

>>151399374
I think it would've actually already killed everyone since during the loops they were already "marked" by BTD to explode and if Kira were to use BTD again everyone would explode since they were already "marked" but we most likely just got to see nurse since it was to show Kira's reaction on it working or him just hallucinating everything.

>>151399406
Considering the OVA and the fighting game, I wonder how many people really did start with Stardust Crusaders.

>>151399506
If I'd have started with Phantom Blood I definitely would've dropped the series, and I doubt I would've watched more if I started with Battle Tendency.
Jojo is pretty shit until stands are introduced.

>>151399466
They were "marked" to explode at around 8:30 that morning. They wouldn't have exploded.

>>151399549
I'm actually under the impression that they still will since everyone should've died by that time but was only stopped since Kira disarmed BTD and if he were to use it again it will finish the job.

>>151399576
If that was true he could've re activated it at any time to kill all 5 of them instantly. It doesn't make sense.

>not reading the manga

>>151399542
No Anon.
Stands ruined JoJo.

How BtD works:
>kira presses the detonator and the bomb is set inside someone after he tells them his identity
>time goes back 1 hour, and only Kira remembers (this is how Hayato was brought back to life, Kira just knew not to kill him)
>if the bomb person tries to tell anyone Kira's true identity, the person explodes and time goes back one hour
>if the next loop, the person explodes regardless of whether or not they meet the bomb and time continues as normal
>if the bomb tries to tell someone else, the person explodes and time is set back an hour
>this continues until Kira withdraws Bites the Dust, any deaths that happen before he withdraws it are permanent, but if he withdraws it before the deaths they don't happen, which is how the gang survived

>>151399607
This anon has shit taste or is baiting hard. Do NOT give him (You)s

>>151399617
>time goes back 1 hour, and only Kira remembers
except he doesn't, Hayato is the only one who remembers

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I feel glee at the sight of the man of the sea
Christ, what an awful thread. At least we won't see anymore of these until VA is announced

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXEX_VUI-E0

>>151399600
Yeah it really doesn't make sense why Kira didn't use it mid-fight but the only explaination could possibly that it will only work on people without stands since Kira is giving you the stand albeit not have complete control over it and would probably not work like let's say on Okuyasu that has The Hand.

Stands = asspulls galore

>>151399617
So Kira told Hayato his identity while he was a corpse on the bathroom floor? Just accept BTD is slightly inconsistent.

>>151399660
read it again
he only remembers if he's just set the bomb

>>151399674
When Josuke and Hayato ran away he could've literally told someone on the street "my name is Yoshikage Kira", shoved the bomb in them and killed the entire gang. That's what you're implying.

>151399677 (You)
>Star Platinum is all the stands I know
>Hamon

>>151399724
Yeah pretty much,Kira possibly tunnel-visioned too hard to think of other ways to beat them.

>>151399690
It is inconsistent, I was just trying to explain it the best I could, maybe it's different if the person is dead.

>>151399779
You know it's possible that the first time Kira got hit by the arrow and got BTD could possibly be a one time free use activation so it could explain why everything was normal on the next day.In the manga it wasn't clear that it did that but in the anime it was implied to have been that

>>151399769
Well honestly it's more likely that's simply not how BTD works.

We're all working on uncomplete info but if reactivating BTD would've exploded everyone marked regardless of the time, there's no way Kira would've missed it.

>>151399824
I think this is the most likely explanation. Either getting the ability caused it to activate then and there or Araki still wasn't 100% on what BTD would do.

>>151397006
>"Thank you, Koichi. You've been a truly reliable friend since I've come here. This truly has been a Diamond is Unbreakable...."

what the fuck? seriously, araki?

>>151400080
"I feel a strange kinship with you Dio, a kind of bizarre friendship. As if our fates were intertwined by a ghostly force. Phantom Blood, if you will."

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>first encounter with jojo was briefly seeing battle tendency op while skimming youtube in 2013
>thought it was the gayest looking anime I've ever seen
>Forget about it and end up watching it 1 year later
>become jojo fag and read the last half of part 3 to part 8
>every flamboyant thing in jojo no longer comes off as gay to me
>sometimes think of random band songs and think of stands for them
>whenever I jack to women online, if I see them doing a somewhat unorthodox pose I think of jojo and stop jacking
>don't go a single day without thinking about jojo
How did I get so compelled by this particular Japanese story? How do I lost interest?

>>151397006
Jojo is an important piece of culture

Not only is it heavily referenced across anime, it represents a resistant to jewish driven genocide.

Jojo tells your average fag that being super manly is okay.
Without jojo, more transgender dick cutters would be born and infest the earth with their toxin
It's why jewish led organizations are trying to force the "Oh shit is that a jojo reference"
DON'T BUY IT, heck, never buy what a jew is selling

Jojo's Bizzare Adventure represents a dangerous weapon against their interests to destroy civilization for their own profit.

Jojo gives people hope
It gives people something they don't have
It's why jews want to destroy it, because they don't want anything given for free

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>>151397154
Yeah, these plebs can't understand the art of good anime like Code Geass.

It's okay but fanbase is obnoxious.

Favorite track on Nightwalk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEhJSggXTSg

It's too groovy for me to handle.

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>>151400151
I know it's bait but

>>151400266
To be honest, it's been trying to be less obnoxious that other fanbases. The most obnoxious meme so far (IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE?) is actually poking fun at fanbase obnoxiousness, so I guess we're just one step above shit like pre-2013 MLP

>>151400603
Nothing will ever be close to pre-2013 MLP.

>>151400628
I mean, the fanbase was already kind of obnoxious, just not a cesspool of neckbeards and fetishes

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>>151400666
You know it was bad when Satan himself points it out.

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>>151400151
>Jojo tells your average fag that being super manly is okay.

I really, really like this bait.

>>151398827
I was heartbroken at part 3 Joseph by part 4 I have already moved on. i cri evrytim

Are the silhouettes that the characters leave in the Great Days OP are a reference to Diavolo's stand power?

>>151401238
No

It's all BtD references, not sure why people try to scan for King Crimson references in Great Days

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So, what really happened here? What's the true story? Was it really just an accident? Sounds like the work of an enemy stand to me.

>>151401238
It's either a reference to Enigma or BTD.

>>151401350
Nope. Jotaro time stop moved kira into the path of the ambulance, causing kira to unexpectually die

wow when you think about it Josuke vs Kira has the least asspulls of any other JoJo final fight

>>151401350
The ambulance was already moving backward when Kira fell down so the driver didn't see him there or the more easier explanation fate fucked with Kira since he heard him talking shit how he's always lucky.

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How did do?

>>151401469
Wasn't Bites the Dust an asspull? It came out of nowhere.

>>151401620
good job anon
"pats head"

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I haven't rewatched the same episode of an anime 3 times in a row since Gatchaman Crowds started or Gurren Lagann ended. 10/10 ending

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>>151401620

>>151401656
Not BtD, the final fight starts when Josuke finds out Kira's identity

So, can we all admit now that the series starts its gradual downhill decline with 4 over and it's just never as cool and fun as before?

>>151401764
Nah, but I feel as if Araki's writing remains a constant after 4, as in all of the parts after 4 are only able to be as good as 4 in terms of writing and are never able to surpass it. We shall see with 8, however.

>>151401764
No
>>151401821
False

It's hard for many to get into because the beginning parts are so shit. No one's gonna believe someone who says it gets better halfway through, especially considering how hated the god awful most of the fanbase is.
JoJo's not perfect but it delivers great moments and is very fun to keep up with. The manga is much better than the anime, but I still wouldn't call the anime bad at all.
I also think that while JoJo is really great for what it is, it's overrated as fuck. People jump in to part 1 expecting a 10/10 and are severely underwhelmed and end up quitting at around part 3. I can't blame them.

>>151398663

He couldn't, he was delusional and desperate

The whole piece of dialogue with him rambling on about "muh boner" suggests he had completely lost it after getting dora'd

JJBA has always been poorly written up until SBR (and even then sometimes) because Araki's main focus is making a series exciting and cool with lots of tension. He is essentially trying to make a horror movie in the medium of a shounen fighting manga. He openly doesn't give a fuck about continuity and thinks more about how he can excite himself and the reader on a week to week to basis.

The only reason the series took off is because stands were a very novel concept and let Araki write very cool fights, and even as they were being introduced and having their flaws ironed out, JJBA was never considered WSJ flagship or top tier series at any point in it's run. It did always do well in Tankobon sales though, which is one of the reasons they didn't cancel it.

>>151401764
I agree the manga becomes less cool and fun after Part 4 (Parts 5 and 6 is my least favourite Part) but the fights improve a lot. I might not like Part 5 so much but it had some proper good fights in it and desu even at it's worst points, JJBA is still better than an average modern shounen fighting manga.

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What artists are similar to the artist of jojo?

>>151397395
Like every other series on this board that get threads made every day. When are you going to make a "Why are people so obsessed with Kancolle" thread?

>>151401620
Nice one

>>151401842
Part 4-5 handled minor characters well while the main JoJo's development got shafted a bit (mostly Giorno, much less for Josuke) meanwhile Part 6-7 handled the main characters well (Jolyne is a great JoJo and Johnny and Gyro are a great duo) but the minor cast got shafted hard.

I am not accounting for setting, but JoJo never felt like a plot driven series to me and more of a character driven series, so no matter in which setting a peculiar part is set, the characters won't change or come off as good just because of that setting.

In terms of writing they are equal.

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>>151401923
Tom of Finland

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>>151401727
WOOOOHH OAH! OAH!!!!

>NICE!!!!

>>151397896
Because Josuke can control how objects reform. It's also why he can fuck up that guys face in the very first chapter or part 4....

>>151401476
>Fate fucked Kira because he always claim he's lucky.

This is a more believable explanation considering that the ambulance is not moving and Kira has a chance to talk when suddenly the ambulance suddenly hit him.

>>151402172
Then why not bring Kira back to his hand instead of having the hand go to him?

>>151397006
>hype
>1988
You literally can't be this new

Part 1-3 are very very bad. Only reason people like it is because it's so well directed and hits all the notes animation wise.
I doubt 99% people read or could stomach reading the manga.

>>151402197
This actually a huge plot hole.

>>151402197
>>151402414
Someone said some shit about how the smaller fragment of whatever Josuke fixes goes back to the bigger one, but I'm sure there's stuff in the manga where that rule doesn't always apply.

The real reason is Araki can't write it that way because then the story would end.

>>151402197
Josuke realised that Kira was the one who saved him in the past and wanted to give him a chance to stop the hand bussiness

>>151402456
They're wrong, otherwise Okuyasu would have been killed by RHCP.

>>151402058
Giorno had more development than Josuke.

>>151402456
Which is patently false because Okuyasu is brought back to his arm and Joseph's wallet flies to Josuke.

>The real reason is Araki can't write it that way because then the story would end.
This is correct, and bad writing for writing himself into such a scenario where he has to escape via a plot hole.

>>151402376
I read the Part 1-3 manga

Part 1 is actually pretty underrated. The early chapters are really BAD, but during the midpoint Araki gets used to that weird FotNS homage artstyle and draws some amazing panels and spreads in it that are honestly amazing for weekly.

Part 2 also starts with some pretty weird early chapters, but then as always Araki gradually gets used to that artstyle. I'm not fond of the Part 2 anime (despite liking it) for cutting out some scenes that added to Joseph and Caesar's character and also pacing the Wamuu vs Joseph fight really poorly. It was way more dynamic in the manga.

Part 3 like all other parts starts off with really weird art, but also like all other parts the author masters his craft in the midpoint. People complain about Part 3 being very villain of the week and it sucking until the Egypt arc, but in my opinion all fights after Yellow Temperance are very creative and enjoyable so I didn't mind the overabundance of these entertaining villains.

In general I think that people who complain about the Part 1-3 manga haven't read anything past the early chapters, because all JoJo parts have had really weird art quality and style when they started (Early Part 4 and Part 7 were fucking gross for example). But if they actually gave the manga a chance and kept going, they'd see it gradually improve with time.

Also Araki's backgrounds are super underrated, especially his stuff before Part 7 since he crammed absurd details in certain spreads that are unheard of in weekly manga.

>>151402456
>the smaller fragment of whatever Josuke fixes goes back to the bigger one
okuyasu was transported back to his arm after RHCP wrecked him
the edge of the photo was enough for Josuke to take the entire photo with Jonathan's wallet

Josuke didn't bring Kira back to the hand because Kira released SHA. If he brought Kira back to the hand, SHA wouldn't have returned to the hand and they'd have to deal with that until Kira came back.

>>151402515

I dropped the manga at part 2. This was before the anime. It was just so predictable, tedious and boring to read honestly.
The anime basically elevated it and made it 10 times better. Even the beginning of part 2 was highly enjoyable.
DP deserves every single praise the get. Probably best planning, storyboarding and directing out of any anime this decade.

>>151402197
Okuyasu isn't actively trying to get away so it isn't the same situation. The limits of most powers aren't explicitly stated so it's hardly a plothole if powers are used in a way that isn't expected or hasn't been used before.

>>151402552
That's inconsistent though. Applying Crazy Diamond to the hand made SHA revert back to it, and by that logic (and the logic of every other time we see Crazy Diamond work) it should have brought Kira back as well. Instead what happens is SHA goes back into the hand, and the hand then goes to Kira.

>>151402592
The Part 2 anime is decent but the scenes they cut were important for the characterization of characters in my opinion. I watched the anime before reading the Part 2 manga and honestly if someone found the manga boring and predictable then they should find the anime boring and predictable as well since the anime doesn't really change the plot or overall tone of the part. The animation for Part 2 could have also been a hell lot better (the TV version had a lot of QUALITY) but I definitely enjoyed it for what it was, I just can't see why one would consider the manga inferior though since they're both on the same level to me.

>>151402643
Okuyasu was being whisked away by RHCP at the speed of electricity. As if something like his own personal will itself being enough to negate Crazy Diamond could be an excuse.

>>151402668
It's because SHA went back to the hand that the hand went back to Kira, since SHA and Kira's left hand are connected. Bringing Kira to the hand means that the hand doesn't change its position, so SHA doesn't change its position either, at least that's how I saw it.

>>151402742
Josuke can freely control how much something reforms. At the very least, he should have been able to make SHA return, then hit the hand to make Kira return. Instead he hits SHA, which goes to the hand, which goes to Kira, when it's been shown several times that he has the ability to make things return to what he's applying Crazy Diamond to. It is a plot hole.

>>151402700

Manga is 100% inferior. The story is cliche, the characters are bland, everything is bland. What the anime does is silliness and with great directing, sound effects and music elevate the story to a level that it itself could never achieve. Animation is just one part of making an anime and DP played around that weakness masterfully.

>>151402703
Stands are the manifestations of a person's will so why would that not be relevant? The wallet was being whisked away by the boats engines. Okuyasu was exploded by kira and flying away in every direction but was put back together. Other 'natural' forces are pretty much negated in other instances.

>>151402908
Because if your stand can be negated simply by someone else's will then it's one shitty ass stand. It's a pointless argument anyway because Josuke nullified SHA even though Kira willed it to blow someone up.

>>151400266
Obnoxious and always growing, that's what really matters

Daily reminder that the greatest fight in JoJo was the 5 card poker.

>>151402998
>oh shit he bluffed man jotaro's a total badass!!!

D'Arby was great but I don't get the high praise, it was just Jotaro bluffing all the way through. D'Arby reaction was great but I preferred the other gambling arcs like Telence D'Arby and RPS kid.

>>151402931
Josuke stand wasn't negated. It just had to send the hand flying instead of bring kira back. Kira still exploded Okuyasu it was just reversed. Kira even mentions crazy diamond is kind of an opposite to his. If it was explicitly stated that smaller objects return to the larger ones then there would be a plothole but it was not.

>>151401476
Koichi went 3 freeze on the gaspedal

>>151402504
No,because Okuyasu got turnes into electricity,which is pretty light.

>>151397281
>>151398440
I am the biggest JoJo fan and i've read all 9 parts of it but even i must admit that this manga is pure shit after part 2

>>151398440
Part 7 fags in full force today.

I love all JoJo parts but Part 7, like all other parts before it, is also heavily flawed.

>>151403196
>i've read all 9 parts of it
Mind lending me your time machine, anon-kun?

>>151397006
Drop this shit right now OP
Don't be like me OP, don't let /a/ trick you into thinking this shit is good because it's not.

All 4 parts of this shit is pure trash

>>151403248
Fuck you

This time machine is MY christmas present

You can't have it

>>151397006
>not liking part 1 or 2
Shit taste, if you're not going to like any of it don't bother coming back
>but part 1 and 2 are shit
If you believe this you're a true retard, part 1 and 2 are the worst by comparison, but they're not bad

>>151398440
>Stone Ocean is mostly a shonen battle manga
Stone Ocean is like 10x more based in horror than any other part

Why are Part 7 fags so obnoxious? They shit on all other parts and claim that their part is a literal masterpiece and go full defense mode once you point out a flaw in it.

Actually why are hatefags so obnoxious in general?

Why the FUCK is there no suit Diavolo in JOJO A-GO!GO!?
Literally only one drawing of Diavolo and he's running off to suck a dick.

Did they confirm part 5 already.

>>151403512
No but it's obvious they're going to do it

>>151403512

They confirmed that they are doing part 5 and 6 as fast as they can and then taking a 10-15 year break to give Araki some time to get to part 9 before even thinking about part 7.

>>151403512
There's a small hint in the great days opening, at the very start when koichi starts walking just to meet yukako, there's a road sign that says Golden Wind 2001.

It's obvious that it's gonna get animated, but the waiting is killing me.

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>>151403743
>waiting is killing me
>two days since DiU Finale
It's gonna be a painful wait, anon

>>151399406
This
>I watched part 3 a couple weeks ago
>It got me hooked
>Binged watched all the jojos
>MFW I'm all caught up and now I"m conflicted on whether or not I should read part 5

>>151404107
if there's new (to you) jojo to be had, you should consume it as soon as possible.

>>151404132
Suggestions on where to read a good translation of part 5?

>>151404253
bato.to is the only online reader groups upload their releases to. if it's not there, it doesn't exist. part 5 is like 3/4 good translation now.

>>151404280
>3/4
More like 90%

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>>151403743
Also if you look closely at the sun clock it is shown to have 5 points with the arrow going from the 4th point to the 5th one and then a 6th appears which basically represents part 4-6. DP really went all out in this op.

>>151405111
DP wanted to make everyone see that they're doing it that they show it move the exact same way for a second time on the sun clock at the end

>>151404831
95%, actually.

>People complaining about inconsistency with Jojo
>People actually giving a shit that people are complaining about inconsistency in Jojo
Our entire show is full of plotholes, asspulls, and our mangaka forgets 50% of what he puts down on paper. It's just a guy writing about cool stuff, it's not meant to be some literary masterpiece. It's just a fun experience. You read Jojo to have fun with the stupid shit in it, not to analyze every fiber of whether it makes sense or is consistent, because it isn't. If it were it wouldn't be Jojo.

>>151403196
>9 parts

Your argument is invalid now.

>>151400136
>don't go a single day without thinking about jojo

I can relate

>>151397006
Dragonball Z and JoJo are the only good anime

Where the fuck is Nightwalk?

>>151402129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rhNdQMUMeg

Does anyone else get depressed when they think of how fucked up Jonathan's life was

He didn't even get to truly rest, a fucking dicklet vampire jacked his body and used it to whore himself out for centuries

life is truly unfair

>>151411474
His life wasn't nearly as bad as Jotaro's or Johnny's.

>>151411539
How was Jotaro's life shit?

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>>151401350
Didn't the subtitle say something about him throwing himself underneath? I don't remember that in the manga and it could be a bad translation, but I think it makes sense that Kira would be so overwhelmed by the pain and afraid for his life that he killed himself impulsively.

>>151411656
We only saw a small part of DIO's army in part 3. Jotaro spent his entire life trying to clean up after those fuckers, he probably attracted the attention of some sort of stand mafia in the process.

>>151411666
No satan, a bystander said that in response to Jotaro punching him during stopped time, which caused Yoshikage to fly backwards into the street.

>>151397006
I only liked Jonathan and Joseph's arc. Got five episodes into Jotaro's arc and dropped it.

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>yelling, "nooo" about people they just met dying in front of them...
I mean, some people break down sobbing when they just find a corpse. Actually witnessing human life being extinguished in person is hardly pleasant, not matter who it is.

1-2 are admittedly not representative of the rest of the series. "Stands" become a thing in stardust crusaders, and they take over the series and become one of the coolest aspects of it from there. It's like a "super hero" ordeal, except the "super heroes" all have powers that are rather unique and can be used in interesting ways. Jotaro's Star Platinum is a short range melee machine that protects him from dangers that he is and is not aware of, and can even stop time later one. Josuke's Crazy Diamond is about as strong as Star Platinum in a melee sense, but rather than passive protection (we know he doesn't have this because of his fight with Red Hot Chili Pepper) and time stopping, it can "heal" anything and anyone instantaneously, with the only restriction being that it can't heal Josuke himself.

Kira's Killer Queen is probably the coolest one up to that point. It can turn anything it touches into a bomb.

>>151403248
>>151405821
Not him, but it's a joke in the other threads.

Like the other Anon said, reading JoJo is like watching Araki learn how to write and grow with each part, and half the fun is in re-examining old parts and seeing the potential that was missed or lived up to.

Part 1 is all about Araki writing a villain and how that villain is fought
Part 2 centers on writing a protagonist as a flawed and fun character
Part 3 defines the modern concept of a battle shounen manga, but the human cast suffers as a result
Part 4 solidifies the conventions of battle Part 3 laid out, and is also Araki's first attempt at SoL and emsemble casts
Part 5 has the ensemble cast done much more tightly and with less SoL derping around, finally managing to get character relationships right. Also finalizes the action style that Part 3 and 4 were striving for.
Part 6 probably has the least growth because Araki was running out of ideas but has the most "mature" characters and handles the humorous tone and dark villain match better
Part 7 is arguably the magnum opus as Araki takes elements of all pevious parts and uses them to rewrite the central plot of Part 1 with the main character, emsemble, main villains and battle conventions recieving huge overhauls
Part 8 so far is a fun mystery that seems to be rebuilding Part 4 with less padding, more genuine intrigue and SoL and topping it off with even more weird bullshit, easily the comfiest story and a kind of sendoff for the fans.

>>151397006
>grown muscular men shooting bubbles at each other yelling, "nooo" about people they just met dying in front of them
This sounds awesome. Are you a faggot anon?

>>151412113
SDC is Polnareff's arc, all of Jotaro's development is in the background between parts with the exception of DIO's WORLD. But yeah SDC can be pretty slow now that villain of the week has been done to death. Read the manga.

>>151397896
Stands are projections of your will, they aren't naruto ninja spells and they don't have super specific concrete rules. Don't try to quantify them.
Yes the combination of having a very freeform power and Araki being a typical forgetful mangaka leads to a lot of missed potnetial, but there are only a few times when Stands are truly inconsistent or directly contradictory. JoJo is no worse than any other Shounen manga in that regard

read a better shonen like kinnikuman.

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>>151413800
good taste

>>151397664
Kek. You probably think Jotaro is the pinnacle of well written characters.

>>151401350
Rohan was driving the ambulance

>>151399677
I love how this got no replies.

>>151416192
You've got to fish those (You)s' somehow. We've all been there, right?

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>>151397281
>castlevania rip off

>>151398827
Joseph died after beating Kars. The one we see now is just an Android built by the Germans to replace him.

Not to strike again with the 'it gets better' meme, but as an anime-only, part 4 is the only one I enjoyed. Moreso, I loved it. it's been a long fucking time since I got hyped for an anime, it really surprised me.

>>151399406
Part 7 was my first part

>>151400129
>"Gyro, thank you for being with me during the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: STEEL BALL RUN published by Shueisha race"

I honestly didn't think Araki's writing was this shit.

Part 2 has an awesome end but wait until Part 3 before the series becomes what we all know as JoJo.