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Yeah, Goku. Are you really dead?
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When does the episode air? I always watch it on Sunday.
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>>151369693
Goku was really dead since he blown up by Cell, nothing rare.
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>>151369693
>Zamasu used the Super Dragon Balls, just to switch minds with Goku
Wouldn't it just be far easier for him to use the Namekian or some other dragon balls from some other universe? Pretty sure switching minds isn't a difficult wish, because Ginyu can do that. At least when he wished for immortality, the Super Dragon Ball gave him that and more.
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>>151369693
RIP in Pepper Town
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>>151369918
Zamasu was only told about the Super Dragon Balls by Zuno, not the other ones from Earth and Namek.
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>>151369918
He could have wished for the dragon to kill all ningens. That saga makes no sense
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Dende is cute! CUTE!
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>>151370131
He could have also wished to be the strongest being in existence. Why go for Goku? Because he fought him once and saw him fight?
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>>151370131
His hatred was so strong and deep that I supposed he wanted to PERSONALLY massacre all mortals instead of taking the easy way out even though it could've saved him the trouble.

>>151370215
It's funny that he was so obsessed with Goku when he isn't even the strongest fighter.
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>>151369920
Eh, a quick trip to the dragon ball store will fix him right up

Seriously why even bother with death now when they have access to infinite res?
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>>151370131
It's a children's cartoon we're talking about here
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>>151370059
Yeah, but he could have asked Zuno about the existence of other dragon balls. In fact, when he wished for all the Dragon Balls to be destroyed, I was assuming they were aware of the fact that it included all the Dragon Balls from that reality. Otherwise Gowasu and the rest of the cast wouldn't have been so despaired that they couldn't bring back all the lives killed by Zamasu and Black.
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>>151370265
Everything has to be about Goku.
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When's the episode on and is there any links available for watching the new one?
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>>151370380
>>151369879
45 minutes
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>>151370596
>>151370380
DOES ZAMASU COME BACK?
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>>151370278
>Seriously why even bother with death now when they have access to infinite res?
Not anymore, wait for the Zeno-sama tournament.

>>151369918
Black and Zamasu literally told Trunks & co they wanted to destroy the humans personally.

Pretty sure switching minds is a difficult wish considering that Shenron wasn't even able to turn 18 and 17 into humans and Porunga couldn't even teleport Goku to Earth against his own will.
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>>151370596
Got a link bud?
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>>151370640
No, unless Gowasu thinks about going to another timeline and revive Zamasu to fight on the multiversal tournament.
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Please have a moment in the new arc where Gowasu introduces his new apprentice and Goku, Beerus, Whis, and co. being curious about.

>Goku: Hey. What do you think about mortals?
>Apprentice: Mortals? W-well, they're an interesting bunch.
>Goku: Phew.
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>>151370682
www.(you)tube.com
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>>151370168
It saddens me he became irrelevant in Buu Saga. Toriyama really dropped the ball on a lot of shit in Buu Saga:
>most of the Z-fighters stop fighting
>Piccolo is suddenly several tiers below the saiyans
>Kaioushin is introduced as someone on a different dimension of power, but then it's shown he's very weak, fucking up the dynamic with gods. The introduction of gods of destruction just patched this up
>Trunks and Goten are ridiculously retarded, Vegeta would never have let his son become that little shit. Goten is there only because of fusions
>Dabura, who could even have been a villain on his own, does nothing and gets killed effortlessly
>Majin Vegeta makes no sense, Vegeta undid his character development because.
>SSJ3, while looking great, is shitty writing. SSJ2 had barely even been introduced, and for some reason the numbering didn't include the other SSJ forms, which were just as different as 2. At the same time, Goku and Vegeta achieve 2 without explanation, just so they can remain relevant.
>Most fights amount to nothing, nothing important comes from the result of a fight (Super Buu came from that dog being killed, he absorbed his way to Buutenks only to be "defeated" from inside, Kid Buu is defeated by Spirit Bomb). Fights are really only filler, thanks to Buu's regenerative capabilities and overwhelming power from the start.
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>>151370831
Very good.
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But where is Monaka? Why is Beerus leaving behind the ace?
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>>151370928
Bringing Monaka would be cheating
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>>151370869
Pretty much the same thing happened with Cell.
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>>151370668
As hyped as I am about that if just to see 17 again, I'm expecting any multi-universal destroying shenanigans to be undone by the end of it
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>>151370668
Dragon ball wishes don't make sense at all. Shenron can revive all 7 billion or more people back from the dead with their entire bodies entirely intact, grant eternal life/youth, cure any illness, restore entire planets, and have access to information of dead civilizations and their secret rituals. But restoring 17 and 18 back to human is impossible for him? Really? I mean, Bulma or some other scientist can probably do that by cloning their natural bodies from these cyborgs and transferring their brains into it, if they couldn't replace their mechanical parts with human ones.
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>>151370869
>It saddens me he became irrelevant in Buu Saga
What saddens me is that Toriyama gave Dende a teenager/adult design during the Boo arc then completely forgot about it during the last part of the arc and made him tiny again.
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>>151370869
>Majin Vegeta makes no sense, Vegeta undid his character development because.
Disagree. Vegeta was never "good" before this point. I feel like Majin Vegeta is a logical progression of his character, a logical rebound before fully accepting peace on Earth.
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>>151371112
Toriyama's ability to forgot such things never ceases to amaze me.
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>>151371028
>Z-fighter were still a thing
>Piccolo was the strongest one at a point, and kept training for the Cell Games (Toriyama still fucked up, even with training he did nothing)
>no gods
>no kids
>no Dabura
>no Majin Vegeta
>SSJ became the norm, but it came about naturally (at least more so than SSJ3)
>fights share the problem, but not nearly on the same scale.
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>>151371111
I never even understood why he couldn't. It sounds like a simple wish.
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>>151371112
>>151371210

Goddam, someone teach this man how to take notes for his shit
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>>151371210
He has said that he intentionally forgets about things in his stories.
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>>151370869
>Implying it isn't depressing as fuck knowing you can't be stronger than a saiyan because "muh alien genes"
>Implying he wasn't since Cell saga
>Implying Vegeta actually raised Trunks and not only spent all the time in the training room fapping
>Implying Dabura was ever interesting
>Implying Vegeta ever had any character development besides becoming more goofy
>Implying 7 years isn't enough to attain a form Gohan had already achieved (And Babidi's power made Vegeta go SSJ2)
>Implying Dragon Ball isn't like this since Frieza

I agree that Buu arc was unnecessary tho
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>>151371111
They do make sense, it's just some of the rules are a bit arbitrary at times.

Basically, Shenron can't affect the body of anyone stronger than his creator. So he can't change people's races, he can't teleport people against their own will, he can't kill people stronger than Kami/Dende, that stuff.

Why he can revive people stronger than Kami/Dende, I assume is because they're souls who don't really have a will (or if they do have a will, of course they'd want to be revived).

Not being able to turn 17 and 18 into humans is one of the more dumber limitations, though. Since they'd obviously wouldn't be against the wish and he was able to remove their bomb just fine, so what's stopping him from affecting the rest of their body?
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>>151371170
During the Cell Saga he turned around. He was incredibly mad when Cell killed Trunks, he had a kid with Bulma, he settled down just training. If there were any evil desires left in him, he'd have done something during those seven years, his rematch with Goku was supposed to be friendly and he never showed any malice before getting in Babidi's ship.

It'd make sense if Babidi's power had worked, but it didn't, and Vegeta still held grudges.
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>>151371385
>so what's stopping him from affecting the rest of their body?
I'd guess it's because he'd be unable to turn them into full humans while keeping their current power.
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Can a human ever catch up to the sayians?
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>F. Trunks is aware that the Namekian Dragon Balls exist, but he doesn't search for them to revive the Z Warriors
With the knowledge of the Super Dragon Balls, F. Trunks now knows two types of Dragon Balls that exist that are better than Shenron because there's no limit of how many times he can revive them, nor is there any known time-limit for how long a person can remain dead before they are unable to be revived.
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>>151371614
Fucking no pls
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>>151371385
>Since they'd obviously wouldn't be against the wish

Says who? Why wouldn't they want to be super -powered androids who can't age?
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>>151371389
>He was incredibly mad when Cell killed Trunks,
Only thing he ever did that could qualify as him having a heart.

> he had a kid with Bulma
Yes, and gave no shits when Gero tried to kill her and baby Trunks. Future Trunks even calls him out on this shit and Vegeta tells it to his face that he didn't give a shit,

>he settled down just training
Because Goku died. Goku was his sole objective, that was the point of his "I'll never fight again" line, it's pointless if he'll never prove himself to Goku.

Vegeta developed prior to the Boo arc, but he never developed into a good person, that's the main point. And again, a rebound is something that happens. It'd be character regression if Vegeta turned evil and stayed that way, or he developed to the same level he was before he turned. But he didn't, Vegeta turned "evil" then developed even further than he had before this point.
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>>151371658
Even if Trunks didn't know, Goku being at King Kai's place knows and can talk to Namek and Trunks.
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>>151371389
It was less evil and more of an obsession to best Goku. It died down when Goku blew up but came back in full force when he came back and he finally had the chance to beat his rival


>>151371658
Universe is a big place. He wouldn't even know where to look
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>>151371658
>F. Trunks is aware that the Namekian Dragon Balls exist, but he doesn't search for them to revive the Z Warriors
Says who?

Nobody knows where New Namek is. Goku was the one who found it and Goku is dead.

Trunks would have to travel to U6 to gather all Super DBs, how the fuck would he do that when Beerus and Whis are dead and he can't teleport like Zamasu/Kaioshin?

I know they're Deus Ex Machina and shit, but they have limitations. You people act like they can just gather the dragon balls whenever they want.
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>>151371614
That was the point of Uub. Goku goes out of his way to explain to Vegeta that Uub, the future protector of Earth, is 100% human, not an android, alien, or magical, only inheriting Kid Buu's mighty power level and ki, apparently. Unfortunately, Uub isn't that special anymore and the power scaling leaves him as stronger than most of the Dragon Ball team, but weaker than most of the threats Goku and Vegeta face.
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ningens get out!
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>>151371736
>>151371787
The only way it would make sense is if Namek and Cell Saga didn't exist. Vegeta's dying speech to Goku makes no sense when you see what he thinks during Buu Saga. It could have been handled a LOT better if their intention was to just show that he wanted to fight.
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Wat
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alright lads
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>>151371895
F. Goku still has his body and presumably still trains on King Kai's planet. You're telling me that he couldn't contact Trunks and won't tell him the location? Even if Trunks doesn't know, he had Bulma, along with Krillin and Gohan, who did locate Namek when they had no idea where it was either. Trunks can simply just go space exploring like what his mentor and mother did and find New Namek.
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>>151371956
Needs a no ningens allowed one.
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>>151372132
>F. Goku still has his body and presumably still trains on King Kai's planet. You're telling me that he couldn't contact Trunks and won't tell him the location?
If he hasn't done so until now, then yes.

>ven if Trunks doesn't know, he had Bulma, along with Krillin and Gohan, who did locate Namek when they had no idea where it was either.
New Namek and Namek aren't the same planet. That's the reason why Goku had to find it in the Cell arc.

And yes, they did know where Namek was. Kami's spaceship, which is what Kuririn, Gohan and Bulma used, had the coordinates to Namek.
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>>151371658
>this stupid shit again
Read the manga dumbass
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>>151369920
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>>151372281
Goku could have used King Kai to speak to somebody on New Namek to gather the dragon balls.
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>>151372286
What was that wish? I forget. Wishing everybody killed by Frieza back?
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Stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlW3rSjVNkg

np
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santa isn't real
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>>151372457
noooo faggot
plebbit will delete it
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>>151372539
Delete this
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>>151372539
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>>151372449
yep
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>>151372342
>Goku could have used King Kai to speak to somebody on New Namek to gather the dragon balls.
If he didn't, it's because he couldn't. Maybe Kaio forbid him, or Goku didn't give a shit.
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>>151372631
Or lack of writing.
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>>151372281
>If he hasn't done so until now, then yes.
Which is a plothole. Why does Goku no longer care what happens to Earth and its people? As this anon pointed out >>151372342 he could either contact Trunks and tell him the location of New Namek or he can contact New Namek and ask the Namekians for a few favors to revive the people killed by the androids.

Even then, Trunks should still risk it. If it took him years of traveling, it would still mean that he could have at least Gohan back and Piccolo, and have Earth's dragon balls in case.
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>>151372670
a lil bit of both
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>>151372715
>Which is a plothole.
Never denied it. Trunks' timeline can't work unless you choose to ignore plot holes or make everyone useless/a dickhead.

Why didn't Popo tell everyone in the future about the RoSaT, while we're at it?

The Cell arc is poorly written in general. But you were blaming it on Trunks, I just said Trunks couldn't avoid anything.

>If it took him years of traveling,
By the time he returned to Earth, Black and Zamasu would have killed everyone.
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>>151372715
It's not a plothole since we don't know if Goku was allowed to go back to King Kai's again in that timeline to begin with.
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>>151372715
>Which is a plothole
Nope, we see in the Majin arc, Goku isn't watching Earth 24/7.
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is it me or bra's hair seems to be a darker blue than bulma's
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>>151369693

IT'S STARTING
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How did Cell arrive before trunks if he never changed the settings
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Almost forgot Super was on, was too busy having some nice Christmas Eve sex
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>>151372972
why is trunks hair blue
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>>151373036
They can't decide
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>>151373036
He dyed it
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>>151373097
TOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI
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>Everybody here talking about how the Future Dragonball Team is either uncaring or unable to help Future Trunks' timeline
I'm still annoyed that no one that has died has made a goddamn appearance. All we see is F. Trunks. We don't get one single scene of what's going on in the afterlife that causes Goku and the rest to just completely ignore Earth's problems. It's honestly jarring. At the very least, I would expect Gohan to contact Trunks through King Kai at least once. But nope. It almost seems like the afterlife doesn't exist at all in F. Trunks universe. Heck, we don't even get to see Bulma travel to heaven.
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When do the subs come out?
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>A break AFTER the intro

the fuck
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>>151373097
Dont forget the Ftrunks Trunks Fusion which has 2 toned hair
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>>151373182
It's all your fault jew
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>>151373160
They are souls in paradise/hell. They are not "ignoring" anything.
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Damn it Goku you just got lucky
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WHAT WAS THAT BULLSHIT
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I don't know WHAT the fuck is going on
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QUALITY INCOMING
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>>151373097
He just ran out of purple hair dye after he went back after cell
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>>151373409

Wasn't it the blast hit stopped earlier which shocked him back to life with god ki maybe since it was his
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>Goku says Hit can create "fakes" of his own ki. That's how he snuck up on Goku last ep.
>Goku can sense Hit's ki all over the place. It's like th ki version of the afterimage attack
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>>151373330
Not F. Goku. He still has his body in the afterlife, as shown in the manga. F. Piccolo, too, given that we see his reaction when the Dragon Balls die out.
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>>151370869
I agree with most of this except

>Majin Vegeta makes no sense, Vegeta undid his character development because.

Vegeta undoes his character development because he was devastated at Goku dying. When Goku came back to fight in the tournament, he sees one last chance to beat him.

Vegeta's not really a protagonist until the fight with Super Buu, though he's getting there somewhat at the beginning of the Buu Arc.
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Did Goku just try to confuse him by slapping in front of his face?
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>have to wait through three more weeks of Cuckhan filler until the real arc starts
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Hasn't SSB hit it's limit long ago

Give us a new form already
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>>151373330
>They are souls in paradise/hell
This, Upper world=Heaven
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>>151373649
>Give us a new form already
Send a mail to Toriyama
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Anyone else really confused?
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>>151373620
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SUBS WHERE

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>Goku's scared.
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is it possible for them to make Hit any more edgier?
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why is dragonball gaiden yamcha nowhere to be found on any of the manga sites after all this time?

makes me wonder how many other shit I'm missing out that are already translated anyways, not even raws.
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>>151373793
Between 1 or 2 hours, but that will be for spic subs.
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>Vados explains Hit's moving through parallel worlds so he can move without being seen. Or something.
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>>151373760
fuck off maiposter

there's only one person that trunks truly loves
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>>151373831
we get english subs just an hour after airing, who cares about spic subs
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>>151372980
W-was it good?
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>>151370869
>>most of the Z-fighters stop fighting
Toriyama at any time can make up some BS power up that can keep the Z-fighters relevant, he simply chooses not to. Instead, we get Saiyans literally obtaining godlike power through a retarded ritual that requires nothing other standing around the target and powering up. It's complete garbage. And yet we're supposed to buy it, but Piccolo, Tien, and Krillin still can't be above Super Perfect Cell, even though that really isn't that great anymore.
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BLUSHING WHIS SCREENCAP WHEN?!?!?!?!
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>>151373894
Yeah, PAN
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>>151373870
w-what
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>>151373870
So they are just making up shit at complete random at this point?
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Goddamnit Goku can you win for once?
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Todd Blankenship ‏@Herms98 48s48 seconds ago Vados explains Hit's moving through parallel worlds so he can move without being seen. Or something.
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>worst cat and vados
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>>151372457
Is it just me or is Hit confronting Goku reminding anyone else of Younger Toguro showing up in front of Yusuke before the Dark Tournament?
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>>151373999
>worst cat
Yes, we did see Beerus
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what the fuck
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that was the lamest fight in DB history
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>>151374106
Worse then Goku vs Botamo?
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>goku hired hit himself

POTTERY
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i don't know what the fuck is going on but everything looks like shit
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>>151373870
>Hit is literally just a gimmick warrior
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>>151374139

At least that one was animated somewhat well.

This is Korea tier drawing
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>>151374139
at least it was shorter
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>>151373962
do you think pan can already transform into a super saiyan by the end of Z. goku did get worried when she got pissed that her icecream dropped
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What the fuck was happening in that fight?
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>>151373182
Aren't you that trip from /arse/?
Wouldn't be surprised to find your autism in Dragon Ball threads desu
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Where the fuck is the Gowasu gets a qt apprentice boy arc?
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I didn't understand almost anything in this episode, I really need the subs to make sense of this
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they should just stick to SoL filler until February
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>>151374145
MADMAN
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>>151374214

>no vegeta cock outline

Trash
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SAIYAMAN KEK
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>>151374244
>implying Zamasu isn't going to be revived as a cute innocent loli
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How can anyone defend this QUALITY?
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>>151374215
Probably when she first experiences anal.
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>>151374344
Zamasu would never allow that shit
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>Vegeta completely outclassed again
Why even bother
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>>151374145

why would you place a hit on yourself
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>>151374344
>implying Zamasu isn't going to be revived as a cute innocent loli secretly out for the ningen dick
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>>151374344
>loli
Girls don't have the sort of wisdom, the intelligence, to get the top Kaioshin job. They get a sector if they're lucky.
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>vegeta getting cucked by hit as gokus rival
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who was that cute girl in the preview though
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I am nuts or was this episode just 10 minutes long
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Episode 5-level QUALITY right here
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>>151372286
That got retconned since they revived Freeza who had been dead for years.
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>>151374398
>Vegeta says the word "baka" at Beerus and Beerus says "Hakai" and Beerus is on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness
Pathetic.
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>people shitting on based naoki tate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGASNhwAH2w

sure his drawings are ugly as fuck but he animates some of the most dynamic and intense scenes in DBS
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i-is Videl going to get cucked next episode?
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>>151374379
How would you hire someone that lives in a different universe?
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>it's a Gohan episode
Goddamnit Toei, you started the 2017 year like shit
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>tfw Videl's going to get cucked by that qt in the preview

There's not enough lube in the world
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was that Gohan's classmate from Buu arc?
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>>151374403
The actress playing Videl in the Saiyaman movie. Blonde Saiyachad is going to bone her
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>>151374496
yeh thought so
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>yfw the last arc of Super is a GT crossover
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>>151374425
Well, in that case it was Dende's dragonballs, which are the strongest (can survive multiple people and more than one time so basically namek+kami)
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Why is Super so fucking bad?
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>>151374526

Wow it might actually have a chance of not being shit then
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>>151374425
It wasn't retconned, Dende upgraded the balls
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>>151374425
>That got retconned
Nope. Shenlong couldn't revive Freeza completely and even mentioned how the wish was pointless.
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>>151374496
>Blonde Saiyachad

I think it's that guy from the magazine that Fat Buu copied, when he tried to get that random bitch on the street to give him a kiss.
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>>151374244

They should loan him U6's Supreme Kai to train, not like he's gonna turn evil.
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>>151373620
Two. No episode first week of January
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Do you think they'll bring Arale to the tournament?
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>>151374344
>yfw Zamasu is reincarnated as Time Kai
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>it's a Gohan gets cucked in front of his wife and kid episode
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>next week is a Gohan episode

D R O P P E D

But seriously, I'm going to skip it.
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>>151374888
But the art looked decent anon!
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>>151374888
>>next week
should we tell him?
>>
DOKKAN BROTHERS

31 STONES FOR LOGGING IN TODAY

DON'T

FORGET
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>>151374586
To be fair though, originally that's how everyone was supposed to be revived. Then when they revived Kuririn after Namek Porunga mentioned that he'd restore his body too as a free service, and after that it seemed like the "free service" was assumed with every resurrection.
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>>151372972
People assume that Cell's timeline is just like Trunks' just because the time machine exists, but it could be completely different, considering how there was a Trunks killing king Cold in the past.
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>>151374942
Two weeks from now. You know what I mean.
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>>151374971
pulled 2 frosts and a pan

Don't even know why I pulled I don't really need SSBKK Goku, should have just saved them for Buuhan
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I thought Kanzenshuu was supposed to be the best forum? There are people there saying anyone who says the animation and art of this week is bad is factually wrong because Naoto Tate is just not bad
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As of the newest episode, even in the anime, SSB by itself is enough to break Hit's time/dimension abilities, no need for Kaioken. So he's basically confirmed to be losing in the tournament, since whoever beats him won't need to be 10 times stronger than Goku in SSB.
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>>151375443
>any forums
>good

lol
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>>151374975
>To be fair though, originally that's how everyone was supposed to be revived
Then why wasn't Vegeta revived with a hole in his chest? Same with Goku for the Raditz.fight.

Besides the "that being's body was cut to pieces long ago" implies that time is a factor.here.
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>>151375443

I mean, it's the most well informed forum, but of course in a place like that you'll get fans of specific animators.
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>>151374586
Nice find. Was that in the anime remake as well?
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>>151375496

That was right before the rule was officially broken, so I guess Toriyama was already getting loose with it.
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>>151375476
>applying logic to dbs
nigger what the fuck are you doing
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>>151374445
You're acting like he can't have bad work. Even the best have both good and bad. Just because he has good episodes sure as fuck doesn't mean he doesn't have bad ones. This episode was terrible
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Vegeta once again being a bitch. He insulted Beerus then immediately bowed down and apologized, and got jealous that Goku has more fun fighting Hit than fighting him
Super is just emasculating Vegeta. At least the manga gets him right i guess
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>>151373760
Hi anon
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>>151374971
thank fuck
time to roll for a SSBKK Goku
GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY PLS I REALLY NEED IT
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>>151375767

Even with knowledge of Hit, I feel Vegeta wouldve been trashed again like in the U6 tournament.
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>>151375647
It's not a matter of in-story logic, it's because the only reason they'd do this would be to make the manga and anime line up closer together.

They supposedly will start adapting the manga with the next arc, so a change like this will allow them to adapt Hit's defeat more easily.
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>>151374971
What is this?
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>>151375439
>>151375838

tfw you have one of the best possible TEQ teams in global and are only just missing Godtenks, some rebirths, and one awakening

and I suppose I could sub any of these cards for LR Goku if I quit being a lazy fuck
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>>151375767
They throw him a bone every now and then but it's pretty obvious the writers have fun cucking him all the time, it's 100% intentional.
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>>151375838
Faggot
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>>151375938
DURAGON BARRU DOKKAN BATTEL!!!
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>>151375838
Fuck i didn't get him lads
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>>151376050
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>>151375999
I don't understand why the writing between the anime and manga are so different. Don't they have the same script?

Anime treats the protagonists like retards but makes the villains strong and great
Manga keeps the protags in character but makes the villains boring wimps
This whole series is a mishandled trainwreck, doesn't DBZ deserve more credit? It's Toei's biggest cashcow
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>>151376081
Kill yourself gohan
don't make me take you out of my AGL team
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>>151376050
>he pulled instead of waiting for buuhan
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>Hakai
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who do you think has a bigger dick

beerus or champa
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>>151376165
Vados
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>>151376141
I'm not going to be bothering spending money to get more than one mono team, and since AGL is the strongest i picked that
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>>151375443
The animation itself was not that bad the worst part was the drawing
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>>151376105
Toriyama's outline isn't very detailed, so Toei and Toyotaro fill the blanks themselves and the anime and manga end up very different.
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>>151375790
Anonn
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>>151376105
>Don't they have the same script?
They get an outline and fill in the rest
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>>151376196
but the best team now if JPN is any indication is actually an extreme team with double Super Saiyan Rose Goku leads

and Buuhan is vital for an extreme team
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>>151376279
Well shit
AGL will still be viable though, right?
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>>151376165
Cats have very small dicks
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>>151376211
The animation was nice, the QUALITY? Not so much.
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>>151375443
Very few people there are well informed.
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>>151376223
WTF. Why doesn't the 2 teams work together then to put out a quality series instead of this mishandled contradicting rushed mess?
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>>151376307
yeah cause Rose himself is AGL

but its by far the best team in the game currently

>leader skill gives 3 ki
>passive gives 3 ki
>take a friend rose
>turn where both roses show up they give 6 ki each
>all three characters get 12 ki and a free super that turn

its beyond overpowered
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>>151371325
>I was just pretending to be retarded
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>>151376239
I missed you anon.
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>>151376349

Well, supposedly starting from the next arc the anime will adapt and add to Toyotaro's storyboards, rather than Toriyama's outline directly.
>>
Daily reminder that you're a retard if you think Black can't at least power up to SSJ2 tier.
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Can someone explain the MaiXTrunks pairing? It seems so out of left field and makes no logical sense given Mai should be older than Bulma in the future time line.
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>Vegeta still scared of Beerus
>T-they surpassed him I swear

Hahahahaha

>Great Saiyaman vs Mr satan next episode

Hype
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>>151376318
The quality of the drawing is not up 2 the animator though
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>>151376424
It was the last wish made to the Dragonballs, right before Piccolo was killed. Pillaf's gang turned into babies at the time. It was only shown in the manga though, in a special chapter.
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>>151376349
That's their plan for the next arc
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>>151376408
Goddamn that does seem broken as fuck
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>>151376422
daily reminder that literally EVERYTHING past cell is non canon so your shitty theory is irrelevant
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>>151371385
because androids are hot.
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Chapters 12-14 rips when?
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>Geekdom101
>"This episode looked fine."
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>>151376686
What?

We are currently at chapter 19.
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>>151376416
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>>151376756
>le famous youtubers xD

Fuck off
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>>151376840
(You)
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>What did you say Vegeta, want me to destroy you
>I-I'm sorry B-beerus-sama!

Oh wow hahahahahaha
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>>151376422
Daily reminder
SS2 tier =/= SS2
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SUBS WHERE
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>>151369918
>>151370131
>yfw Super Buu's human genocide attack could have gotten Zamasu's goal accomplished
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>>151376650
I feel sorry for you. Enjoy living in the past.
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>>151375496
Yeah I know if shenglong can stitch a hole why can't he glue together all the atoms in frieza body scattered across the universE? It sure is pretty similar
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>>151377228
http://www.masterani.me/anime/watch/1429-dragon-ball-super/72
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>>151377280
Thank you based anon

Here, have a Cocona
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>>151377274
>why can't he glue together all the atoms in frieza body scattered across the universE?
>atoms
>scattered across the universE
???
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>>151376823
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>>151377411
Retards trying to find plotholes to feel superior.
Nothing new.
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>Goku: Gohan, Piccolo, can you let me be selfish?

You mean act as you've always been, Goku?
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>>151376756
>geekdom
>the youtuber that will throw a big hissy fit on twitter if you dare correct him on his videos

I remember when he was at like 5k and he said something wrong in one of his videos, I corrected him in the comments and he blocked me and went over to Twitter saying shit like "Don't you DARE try to correct me if you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!"
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>>151377411
Well for starters all the water he had evaporated. The wind and rain separated a some pieces which nature took care of. Then buu destroyed the planet and it got revived. Considering Frieza was a Alien whatever remained of him probably became space dust and didn't return with the earth
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>>151377411
He has a point, actually. Frieza wasn't only sliced to pieces by Trunks, he was vaporized
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Are Beerus and Whis the best Toriyama characters since Vegeta?
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>>151377637
Shenron restored Freeza's body to the state he was prior to death.

Freeza apparently was still alive after Trunks sliced him to pieces and before he vaporized him. That's what the movie wants you to believe.
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Post your QUALITY.
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>>151374971
Goku SSBKK on my 4th single. I usually have bad luck too. My AGL team is looking decent

Double TUR Super Vegito Lead SA 10
TUR SSBKK Goku SA 6
TUR Ultimate Gohan SA 3
SR Murasaki
TUR SS3 Goku SA 3
UR AGL Whis SA 1
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>>151377769
Only his eye and a piece of the torse. Eveything else probably got blasted
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So why did nobody bring up the mafuba against buu?
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>>151378002
toei filler
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>>151377827
Meant to add to my post, when is Buuhan coming out?
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>>151378035
So when is Super Kai?
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>>151378022
>atoms
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>An energy blast revives Goku

Fucking dropped! This series already had lots of bullshit but this went to far.
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>>151378002
Why doesn't Goku train with Whis instead of wasting time getting Hit? Why haven't Vegeta and Goku surpassed the God's yet? Why did Goku acts like he didnt know who was hunting him when nobody else was around?
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>>151378114
Yeah man, how dare it.
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>Granny's Secret Sauce

Vegeta always hilarious
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>>151378160
Why did Cell's time machine take everyone to Future Trunks' timeline?
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>>151378114
>Dropped a show because of a filler episode

Anon.
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>>151378160
Beerus, Whis, Champa, and Vados's abilities are a continuously rising ceiling.
At this point Beerus was probably only fighting SSG Goku at 10%
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>>151374586
What about all the people blown to shit by the saiyans and sucked dry by cell?
fucking lying dragon piece of shit.
>>
Am I the only one who prefers cuckgeta over the edgelord in Z?
>>
what was said about Beerus and gag characters a few episodes ago?
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>>151378270
Where else would it take them?
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>>151370700
>tfw all of the best fighters are either on the Z-team or were evil villains who had to be stopped
g-guess it's off to traveling the multiverse...
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>>151378336
cuckgeta is actually entertaining
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>>151378336
I definitely don't. DB characters get really boring once their character arcs end. At least he had some kind of closure instead of going out in the air like Piccolo and Tien.
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>>151377598
What was the mistake and correction?
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>>151377773
I forgot that Piccolo stretching was a thing for a second.

Didn't know Goku could do it too!
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>>151378336
Vegeta aside from the Android-Cell saga is always entertaining
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>>151374526
That would be fun though.
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>>151377773
Has Piccolo always been that tall?
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>Piccolo snitched on Goku to Chi Chi

Why is he so whipped? He truly is the family butler at this point. Though seeing Chi Chi and Goten worry about Goku so much was nice. And Chi Chi really dislikes Frost doesn't she?
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>>151378797
Something about Vegeta having a 20k powerlevel in the original release being corrected to 30k in the Kanzenban. I told him that even though that was true, the first edition of the Kanzenban didn't include the correction, so Vegeta was still at 20k. Didn't even come off as snarky, was only supposed to be a minor tidbit.

He blocked me and sperged out on Twitter.
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>>151373870

Hit is coolest guy.
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>>151370869
Piccolo is underrated in the Buu arc. The only reason you think he's weak is because he doesn't fight at all. You forget that he was 100% ready to fight Dabura, and Piccolo isn't the kind of guy to underestimate enemies
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>>151369693
>normal SSBlue can break Hit's TimeSkip pocket dimension ability
>phasing SSBxKK out of their canon because they have to stay truer to TA's plot outlines from now on starting next arc
Bravo Toei
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>>151378501
To the timeline where Cell killed Trunks. Where that time machine came from
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>>151377777
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>>151378959
>Kakarot you seem to enjoy fighting Hit more than me!
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>>151378959
Prepare for Vegeta fighting to gain Goku attention from Hit antics
>>
why do people still watch this? OPM already deconstructed it
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Non Canon ≠ Filler

Learn the difference. Filler can be canon. Just say non canon filler.
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>>151376791
He's talking about Viz's official translation dipshit
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>>151379035
Goku got stronger since the tournament you know.
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>>151378959
>That level of animation for an entire scene
Jesus Christ that was bad, the hell is the budget for this show again?
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>>151379069
>deconstruction meme
fuck off
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>>151379039
Where does it say that time machines are kinked to the time line they come from?
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>>151379160
Trunks was only ever to return to the timeline he came from in his machine no matter how much he fucked with the past
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>>151378904
Dude, Piccolo is like the biggest guy on the team. He's 6'10 IIRC
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>>151379154
1000 yen
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>>151379119
He didn't get 10X stronger and he also mentioned Hit got much stronger.
The point is Toei shot themselves in the foot and this is them back pedalling.
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>>151378959
someone screencap that QUALITY Hit sitting up next to fucku and name the file shitto
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>>151378968
That's like saying Yamcha and Tien were ready to fight Cell because they went to the Cell Games, doesn't make their characters more developed. Piccolo was wasted, he is the most interesting character in early DBZ, but for some reason Toriyama didn't want him to keep up with the Saiyans. The whole Super Namek thing isn't ever mentioned again, the way he trains Goten and Trunks is completely out of character, even if he had become a good guy.

If he wasn't weak he'd have fought Buu at least once.
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>>151379272
7'3 actually

Piccolo is fucking huge compared to Goku(who's 5'10)
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So, let me get this straight
>whenever Hit time skips, he keeps the extra time
>he can use this extra time to phase into an alternate dimension
>people can still see him while he's in this alternate dimension, they just can't attack him

Is this correct?
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>>151379154
If you hadn't noticed by now, Toei doesn't give a shit. They only bother with good animation for a select few moments like Vegito vs Zamasu. That and their tight schedule.
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>>151379342
He's not an idiot. He thought he stood a chance against Dabura and Buu proved to be leagues above. Yamcha and Tien stated that they didn't go into the HBTC because they wouldn't stand a chance against Cell. They only did in the end because it was all or nothing at that point.
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>>151379392
Yes. It's best not to think too hard on it considering it's filler tier.
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>>151379392
Yes, that is what the official subs say.
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>>151378959
Goku hires a hit on himself. Ugh.
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>>151379392
That post gave me death.
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>>151379392
Wow
100% retarded, does Toriyama still write this shit?
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>>151379392
I believe the common terminology is 'out of phase'.
for every second he has skipped he gets a second he can later spend de-synch'd from realtime
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>>151378923
>Chi Chi will now start blame Frost for everything

It's an improvement I guess. And Christ was the animation this episode bad. I know it's 72 episodes in and complaining at this point is like beating a dead horse, but this one was noticeably sloppy.
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>>151379392
lmfao
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>>151379514
He doesn't write filler. Never has never will.
The only TA related filler is like telling Toei that Yamcha is a baseball player or when's they take cover art and expand upon it like the driving lesson ep.
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>>151379567
This makes more sense.

Explaining it like that actually sounds pretty cool.
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Wait, didn't Zamasu and Gowasu travel 1000 into the future?

Doesn't this mean that U10 won't get blown up by Zeno?
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>>151379664
Drawing looks pretty good here
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>>151379664
This doesn't even look bad, what are people whining about?
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>>151379392
Like Obito then, considering this was filler it was not that bad at least it was entertaining
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>>151379678
That was before Future Zeno came to the past. Maybe there being two Zenos caused the tournament.
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>>151379736
It did have a better explanation than "Magic eye" for his Power though
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>>151379809
I thought no matter what you did, it won't change the outcome of the future they traveled into.
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>>151376823
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>>151371111
But 18 became human.
WTF are you smoking?
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>>151374151
>Implying 83748742 variations of the Super Saiyan transformation isn't a gimmick
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>tfw the real trunks will never come back
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>>151371111
Assuming DBZ has 7Bil because real Earth does must be a fallacy
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>>151379303
This.
They probably saw the new arc outline and realized they made Hit too powerful for it to make any sense in the upcoming arc.
>>
Damn, Goku was actually on character this episode.

What has Toei done?
>>
Is it me or did this fight feel suspiciously like the manga version of Goku vs Hit? Right up to SSB just overpowering his ability with a Kamehameha
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>>151379896
No she didn't. Do you people even pay attention?
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>>151379896
18 was always human.
She's a cyborg, not an android.
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>Next Episode: Videl gets cucked
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>>151378160
>Why did Goku acts like he didnt know who was hunting him when nobody else was around?
This never happened though, he knew from the start Hit was after him and told Gohan that. He just didn't know when he'd be coming for him.
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>Cuckgeta jealous of Goku

He'll never sink too low, will he?
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>>151380130
>against their will
what did the next page say lad?

too lazy to look it up
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>>151380031
If by "On character" you mean "Not a COMPLETE retard" then what they've done is not make him a complete retard.
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>>151380212
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>>151380267
thanks lad
>>
what would saiyan saga vegeta think about current vegeta
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>>151380159
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What does Goku even think of Goten? It occurs to me that we barely see them interact, especially in Super.
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>>151379392
And none of it fucking mattered because Goku beat it by simply powering up
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>>151380347
i'll tell u if u say hi to me
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>>151380443
hi
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>>151380359
Thinks of him as a failure, just like Gohan.
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>>151380347
>So... nothing changed
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>>151380347
Kudaran.
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What did Goten mean by this?
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>>151380422
This actually looks nice, why is people crying about it?
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>>151380497
>Old Bulma trying to copy Whis hairstyle
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>>151380410
>Goku powering up breaks through other dimensions.
I guess we shouldn't be surprised considering Buu, Piccolo, and Gotenks screaming broke them out of the Space and Time Chamber.
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>>151380582
Second part of the episode looked hideous.

First part was okay and good at points, that clip is from the first part.
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>>151380581
Will we finally see Gotten development next saga? Imagine if seeing Goku dead made him go SSJ2 and he tried to attack Hit
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>>151380582
Because the rest of the episode looked like shit.
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>>151380130

So how did 18 became human?
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>>151369693
>Hit is now a joke oponent
BRAVO TOEI
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>>151380830
She always was.
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>>151380730
I thought Goten and Trunks can already go Super Saiyan 3?

That's how Gotenks turns into it.
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>>151380830
She didn't. She's been an Android ever since Gero modified her.
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>>151380830
She didn't. She's still an android.

What's hard to get here?
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What does it taste like?
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>>151380899
Nope, just SSJ. Don't think it's explained how a 6 and 7 year old fused can go up two forms.
>>
>>151380861
>literally the same fight he had against Goku in the manga
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>>151380965
Now that I think about it, How the fuck did Gotenks achieve SSJ3?

Wasn't it stated by Goku that SSJ3 can only be obtained in the after-life?
>>
>>151380956
Childhood and hard candy.
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>>151380965
It was basically explained as fusion is so powerful it can just do that
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>>151380581
He'll become his timeline's Goku Black
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>>151380581
>Goten would actually train and be the best he can if Goku were to permanently die
I hope that fucker dies one day

>>151381009
I think Goku said that you have to reach a certain state of mind to go ssj3
>>
>>151379159
hes right though
>>
>>151381063
Then by that logic Fusion Dance should be a stronger fusion than Potara. If two SSJ's turn into SSJ3, a SSJ2 and SSJ3 should at least go to SSJ4 if not SSJ5.
>>
>>151381009
He said SSJ3 takes such immense power to pull off that Goku could only do it when he was dead and didn't have a body to crap out in the middle of it.
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>>151381065
QUALITY
>>
>Got killed in one hit last episode
>Now they're already equal in power

DBS is shit
>>
>>151381153
You're implying those states exist though
SSJ3 without GT is the limit
God is like a limit breaker
>>
>>151381077
>>151381165
What state of mind? So why couldn't Vegeta so SSJ3?
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>>151381208
Hit is so powerful because of his techniques. Goku has a high fight IQ and learnt
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>>151381153
>SSJ4 if not SSJ5.

How can they transform into something that doesn't exist?
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>>151381225
Vegeta said the SSJ3 transformation was pointless because it used up too much energy to be useful in a fight while alive.
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>>151381225
Vegeta isnt pure of heart
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>>151380422
BASED Higashide.
>>
>>151381208
Blame Toei for introducing SSBKx10.
Goku shouldn't even be putting up a fight against Hit without it.
>>
>>151381225
>What state of mind?
He never went into detail with it
>>
>>151381277
Bulma and Vegeta mention SS5 during GT.
>>
>>151369693
Zombie Goku confirmed
>>
>>151381337
Well we know that Vegeta SSJ2 is stronger than Goku SSJ3

All it took was rage though. So why couldn't Goku SSJ2 surpass Goku SSJ3? Man this is confusing.
>>
>>151381065
I love Tate
>>
>>151381208
Zenkai man
>>
>>151381493
SSJ2 Vegeta didn't surpass SSJ3 Goku
>>
>>151378959
That quality for just dialogue
>>
>>151381565
It was stated in BoG by Roshi.
>>
>>151381493
The rageboost is the biggest asspull in DBZ.
>>
Could Champa beat hit even if he doesn't understand his technique?
>>
>>151381472
>GT

GT got retconned out of existence. It's basically fanfiction at this point. SS4 and SS5 don't exist, and using GT as a basis that they do is fucking retarded.
>>
>>151381596
Screenshots it then
>>
>>151373804
They could give him a nose ring.
>>
>>151377260
That would have been fine on earth but he wanted to rid the multiverse of them, which he almost acomplished when his body was destroyed. The only reason he didn't nuke earth was to punish Goku's planet and get stronger by fighting Trunks.
>>
>>151381678
It was surpassing SSJ3 Goku for a moment. This is a fact regarding the movie but not mentioned in the anime or manga.
>>
>>151376756
Jesus almighty I read the comments on his latest video and there's a bunch of little dork fags calling each other names over not know the difference between art and animation. My God. How much of a goddamned loser do you have to be? It gives me physical pain to know things as worthless as them exist. Such literal cancer.
>>
>Dragon Ball always had good animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRyoCM6xI40
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>>151381678
>https://youtu.be/pvLPx1rFsZg?t=8m
8:00 mark
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>>151381818
Funny how you say that yet the video you just posting is much more appealing to look watch than DBShit
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>>151381493
>Vegeta SSJ2 is stronger than Goku SSJ3

[This is what Vegeta cucks actually believe]
>>
Goku has fighting fetish and just made Hit his prostitute.
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>>151381875
Color =/= Animation
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>>151379392
This is king crimson tier of bullshit
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>>151381830
That's from Bog, not Super. Also he doesn't even say SSJ3 Goku
>>
>>151381889
see
>>151381830

I believe what is LITERALLY said.
>>
>>151379392
Am I the only one who liked this bullshit ability? It's nice for someone other than Goku to have interesting abilities. Hell, I liked the entire premise of the episode since it wasn't an opponennt Goku could just brute force his way out of (until the last scene). Hit's not even that strong, it's that he has a bunch of techniques, Goku now knows how other people feel when fighting him.
>>
>>151379375
Goku's around 5'8-5'9 actually. Yamcha and Tien regularly tower over him.
>>
>>151381910
>BoG
Yeah, a more Toriyama directed movie than BoG in Super.
>Also he doesn't even say SSJ3 Goku
He didn't have to. He just said "Goku" so you're implying he meant Base Goku?
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>>151379392
>whenever Hit time skips, he keeps the extra time
>he can use this extra time to phase into an alternate dimension
>people can still see him while he's in this alternate dimension, they just can't attack him
Is this Araki-san? This is DB speaking
>>
>>151380903
>>151380940
She's a cyborg with intact ladyparts. The fact that she's referred to as an android is confusing but I guess 1-16 were actual androids and the legal department didn't allow dr. Gero name them differently for copyright reasons.
>>
>>151381940
>Hit's not even that strong

Anime Hit managed to keep fighting after getting hit hard by kaiokenx10 Goku multiple times.
>>
>>151382009
It's like some bizarre mix of KC and D4C
>>
>>151382095
>Anime Hit managed to keep fighting after getting hit hard by kaiokenx10 Goku multiple times.

Too bad that he was actually too strong and they had to nerf him. Now he barely took a SSB Kamehameha.
>>
>>151381940
>Hit's not even that strong

He's at least stronger than Vegeta, since he can still make Goku's dick hard
>>
>>151382095
Is the Kaioken in SSBKx10 multiplying his base form or SSB?
>>
>>151370869
>Goten is there only because of fusions
To be fair, Goten was there for replacing Goku because the latter was supposed to stay dead but Japan loves Goku too much. After the real Goku came back, ChibiGoku became useless
>>
>>151382017
I heard the original uses a word that doesn't make a distinction between full or half robot, it's the dubs fault for using "Android."
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>>151374971
I DID IT I'M SO HAPPY
>>
>>151382224
>>151382095
I mean more in the sense that his greatest asset wasn't his raw strength but his techniques.
>>
So is Rose a state above Blue, or is it just Zamasu's version of Blue
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>>151382236
Only Toei knows.
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Goku could barely keep up with Hit using KKx10.
On the rematch, Goku says Hit is much stronger than he was at the tournament. Yet normal SSB Goku breaks his entire time skip thing with pure power and it results in a time

Wtf are power tiers anymore?
>>
>tfw hi
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>>151382350
How is your AGL team? Here is mine. >>151377827
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>>151378959
Is this real? I mean is this what the show looks like?
This looks like what a 14 year old who just learned how to use flash would produce.
Fuck all how do you turbo nerds watch this shit?
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I don't even understand what is Hit powers anymore. Is he a magician or something?
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>>151382236
That's a good question. Stacking multipliers is fucking dumb so this isn't such a bad idea to nerf it to just that.
(Base*KK10) + Blue God Ki.
It's all bullshit by Toei anyways though.
>>
>>151382385
The latter.

>>151382423
Toei backpedaling on their creative decisions.
>>
>>151381973
Super is the retcon of BoG
>>
>>151382519
Because that's only for 1 scene. The 1st part of the episode is actually good and the second part have some good animation and a couple of scenes like that. Like it's much better than the Golden Freeza arc.
>>
>>151382534
>skiphit.jpg
>phit
>hit
>hi
well hi to you too anon!
>>
>>151382423
Toei is backpedalling from going off the plot outlines.
>>
>>151382547
I thought it was his version of SSJ? Not Blue.
>>
>>151378904
He's supposed to be that tall, but DB Super often forgets it. Tenshinhan is (or was, at least) taller than Goku and Piccolo is significantly taller than even Tenshinhan.
>>
>>151382663
Mistranslation by Herms that was popularized by the fact he never goes SSJ and the parroting Youtubers.
This was corrected when's Herms retranslated and corrected himself of the TA concept art that states he can indeed go SSJ.
>>
>>151382663
Nope.
Manga has Black going normal SSJ and Toriyama has a note saying Black can go normal SSJ.
Toei just didn't show it for whatever reason.
>>
>>151382423
If not even Toei is trying anymore why would you?
>>
>>151382423
>Power level cucks still thinks PL is a thing

When will they ever learn?
>>
What did he mean by this?
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>>151374546
The first two storylines work better as movies. Watch them in their movie forms and you get a better experience. The first two arcs anime wise are a slog to get through.

That being said, Battle of Gods has it's problems but is enjoyable. Ressurection F is just weird but it's easy to get it over with rather than sitting through a lackluster 13 episode arc.

Then the Universe 6/7 Tournament Arc is probably the best arc of Super.

Goku Black starts off with potential but fizzles out the moment Zamasu is brought into the picture. Plus it just goes to show that Omni King is more useless and is a plot device in the DB universe. Hell, Bleach's Soul King has more purpose and intrigue than him.

Filler stuff has been consistently funny.
>>
I would love too see the exactly moment when they had the ki blast idea. Just imagine the high quality discussion they had there.
>>
Wow, this episode was pretty good, a lot better than I expected. I hope the Universal Survival arc is like this.
>>
>>151382762
>>151382782

And how can he go SSJB (or Rosé) without the SSG ritual?
>>
>>151382804
PL is still a thing in the manga. It's just that it fluctuates more and less defined by the transformation itself and more by stamina of the user in that moment.
Anime at the moment though is just fan service with Toei not giving a fuck.
Hopefully next arc is good.
>>
>>151382824
everything about this screenshot is hilarious
>>
>>151382350
>>151377827
I hope you enjoy getting BLACKED when Super Saiyan Rose gets released and completely invalidates his use.
>>
>>151382967
>I hope the Universal Survival arc is like this.

Do you think we'll get this brand new OP just for one arc? Or is the show gonna go past 100 episodes?
>>
>>151382824
this isnt even 5 year old dialogue worthy
its more like new born/fetus dialogue
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>>151369693
>Hit
at this point i am not trying to make sense of this
It was basically
>Goku suffer 80% of the episode in a fight
>suddenly wins
but it was fun
>>
>tfw no subs
>>
>>151382824
He's been cucked by Frieza, Bulma and now is being cucked by Kakarot

He just can't get a break
>>
>>151383079
I don't think Goku won given how it just came off as a tie.
>>
>>151383017
Because he's a god and has some knowledge of God Ki? He even talked like he was superior because he was an actual god, rather than just a moral using god power.

Also, Vegeta didn't go Blue due to the ritual, it was just by receiving training from Whis.
>>
>>151383017
As an apprentice Supreme Kai and a King Kai himself, it's assumed that he already has access to God Ki.
Vegeta never did the ritual either FYI
>>
>>151383059
Super will probably go on until they run out of ideas really. Though I expect this arc to be huge, comparable to the rest of Super altogether.
>>
>>151383059
It certainly will go past 100 episodes. Heck, with the whole 120 fighters premise, I expect the arc to be the longest one in Super so far.
>>
>>151383144
>and a King Kai

There is no such thing, Funifag
>>
>subbing is now dead
dbsuper subs never
>>
>>151383190
>120 fighter premise

Geez, they are really trying to get into Bleach territory of characters without the knowledge of how to do it.
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>>151383144
>>151383143
>manga
>God ki

Pick one.
>>
>>151382534
IT JUST WORKS
>>
>>151383224
A 界王 (KaiOh) is what I meant. Seriously you need to fucking relax. I watch the show raw but o sometime soon use dub terms on 4chan, deal with it.
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>>151383134
>>
SUBS WHEN
>>
I'm still glad is such a fun character. I still remember when he was announced and everyone thought he'd just be the cliche edgelord villain.
>>
>>151382534
Hit's power is basically "I'm Obito Uchiha powered without the Anakin Skywalker tier whining".
>>
>>151383285
"God power" and "God energy" are mentioned in the manga.

Unless you're just saying that Black doesn't have it yet? In that case, yeah, that's right.
>>
>>151383285
I'm assuming there's an art to actually molding that God Ki into a transformation, we'll find out next chapter regardless
>>
>>151383247
That's ok, Kubo didn't have that knowledge either.
>>
>>151381660
>It's basically fanfiction at this point.
Let's be honest. Super is not that much further from fan-fiction itself.
>>
>>151383374
Kubo had a fuck ton more knowledge than the people at Toei Animation.

>Soul Society arc
>Hueco Mundo arc
>1000 Year Blood War

The only time this got really bad was the FKT war and that was due to too much editorial mandating of Arrancars during that time.
>>
>non-god/angel tier characters have time manipulation abilities

I always fucking hated this bullshit in DB

Literally the only thing I despise about it
>>
this confirms that hit is going to job super hard when the multiverse tourney happens.
>>
so when does subs usually come out?
>>
https://youtu.be/lWE8yG9ba78
>>
These powers are going to get dropped in the next arc aren't they?
>>
>>151383224
界王=(界:Kai/Realm) (王:King)
Realm King, literally King Kai.
>>
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>>151383079
Goku is a genius for fighting and a retard for everything else. Through all the interpretations, it has always been a constant that Goku is exceptional at adapting to a rough situation
>>
>>151383449
>>151383233
The subs are already out, retards.
>>
>>151382824
Lol at Beerus
>We know this looks like shit
>>
>>151383431
Whis is the only character able to time travel right. Ningens create timelines and it end in a huge clusterfuck. Who knows, maybe it's an angel thing.
>>
So what's up with the Daishinkan?
>>
>>151383580
SUBS
FUCKING
WHEN?
>>
>>151383613
Vados too.
>>
>>151383632
I am suspecting that he is actually the one above Zeno but noone's allowed to say that
>>
>>151383580
yeah just now retard
>>
>>151383632
Probably pulling the strings and more important than the puppet on the throne Zenchan.
>>
>>151383684
It was posted in the thread 2 hours ago.
>>
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Certainly not Tate's best fight but it's still miles better than the average Super battle.

At least it's not the "repeating the same 2-3 frames really fast for a long time to make it seem like the characters are fighting at superspeed to prolong the battle without adding anything interesting to the fight" technique
>>
Goku x Hit doujins soon.
>>
>>151383681
>>151383690

>Another plot where the assistant of a God tries to backstab him and become God himself afterwards

Wow guise, really original, you should send an e-mail to toei
>>
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What did he mean by this?
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>>151382512
Pretty similar to mine. I just need someone to replace kid buu. His links are ass.
>>
>>151374465
well in Goku's case he begged Whis to do it, Whis asked his sister to hire hit.
>>
>>151383672
Then it's an angel thing. They're above every being on the multiverse
>>
>>151383831
If I don't have Vegito should I use Pikkon or SSBKK Goku as my leader?
>>
>>151383830
Hit's an Evangelionfag, but Dragon Ball is deeper than that.
>>
>>151383690
>>151383681
But Zeno blew up Trunks time line so he is the most powerful right?
>>
>>151382017
8 is a cyborg
>>
>>151383830
Goku is playing 4D chess.
>>
>>151376279
>>151376307
Nah man the best team is still blue

Double Super Vegito
Golden Freeza
LR Androids
Black Rose
Oceanus Shenron
Cat Arale

Enjoy never dying.
>>
>>151384020
greg popovich
>>
>>151382804
Power tiers aren't the same thing as power levels you illiterate idiot
>>
>>151383965
Probably SSBKK but you'll be hurting for ki so make sure you have a lot of good links on your units and bring a super vegetto friend. Also consider bringing tree of might fruit on missions
>>
>>151384053
This.
>>
>>151383995
Yes for now. We're just speculating at the moment.
>>
Goku went Black-mode during this episode.

His serious voice and facial expressions were just like Black's. Just close your eyes and listen to Goku's voice when he's in that forest trying to sense where Hit is, it's like he's Black exactly.
>>
>>151376279
That's false. Super vegetto lead with rose is still the best team by far.
>>
>>151384202
More like he's reverting back to pre flanderization by Toei.
>>
>>151384202
if anything, it's goten who actually sounded like black when he spoke seriously about goku not losing to hit.
>>
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>>151379832
>"Magic eye"
>>
>>151369693

He wasn't dead, just like people whose hearts stop aren't dead until complete cellular death has occurred. Piccolo only RESUSCITATED him, as opposed to REVIVING him. Goku just happens to be so strong that you can literally see his soul explode out of heaven and back into his body after attempting to ascend.

And may I just say: What an absolute man Goku had to be, to hire a fucking TIME-WALKER (see: PAY HIM) to come KILL HIM just so he could improve.
>>
>>151385253
>all these hidden "hi's"
hi there to you too anon!
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>>151383306
>I watch the show raw but o sometime soon use dub terms on 4chan, deal with it.

As soon as you deal with learning how to type English properly instead of getting triggered, kiddo.
>>
>>151385253
>his soul explode out of heaven and back into his body after attempting to ascend
I hope you're shitposting
>>
New thread?
>>
>>151385391
>another hidden hi
damn based anon hi there!
>>
>>151385422
maybe if you say hi to me, anon
>>
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>>151385561
Hi
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>>151385561
hi
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>>151385561
bye
>>
done
>>151385811
>>151385811
>>151385811
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