Dungeon Meshi is OBJECTIVELY the best "RPG World" manga

>>151349030
Its because its one of the few Japan does that isn't actually a video game or uses a ruleset from video games

I haven't read enough RPG manga to dispute it, but I doubt you have read enough to make the claim.

Either way, it's a good manga.

>>151349030
You just hate 2D pretty women, tumblr whale.

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>>151349030
>RPG World
>the best

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>>151349030
>RPG World
But it isn't. It's a standard fantasy world.

Its a fucking fantasy setting, not a fucking MMO video game you fucking cancer stick.

It's fucking fantasy nigga hwat

What makes it good is that it doesn't have stupid ass rpg rules.

Only thing bad about DM is how it started the whole "cooking as filler" shit

>>151349367
>it started
No, it did not.

>>151349262
>>151349301
>>151349305
>>151349290
The reason I call it RPG World is mainly the dungeon part of the world setting. Sure, it's nothing as blatant as leveling up or skills, but the way they explain how the dungeon works, as well as the way they handle death, is very RPG like. Note, I didn't say MMO, or even video game.

>>151349096
I'm not sure why you called me that.

>>151349064
You're right.

plz don't bully OP for saying 'RPG,' he clearly meant in a D&D sense, not the MMO WoW shit that most anime fantasy draws from

t. fa/tg/uy neckbeard

>>151349435
Shoo shoo newfag,dungeons predate rpgs by miles.

>>151349030
It was the best one until they killed the Red Dragon, now it's shit.

>>151349487
>dungeons predate rpgs

>>151349530
they do

>>151349050
Dungeon Meshi is literally Wizardry, bro.

>>151349480
Most anime fantasy draws from D&D

>>151349552
Historical dungeons did not look the way that DnD dungeons do.
Equating them is silly.
And RPGs are older either way.

>>151349560
Actually, it draws from Wizardry, which itself draws from Dungeons & Dragons.

The Blade Cuisinart is a good weapon.

>>151349030
I gave it the 3 episode rule, looked like shit.

>>151349530
Yes,most popular example in fiction would be hobbit although its not the only one.

Then there are real life dungeons on which fantasy dungeons based

>>151349050
there is another one that's pretty decent too.
Don't rememer the name, but it's some fat neet who dies and is reborn in a fantasy universe with his memories intact, and starts out being the typical lewd little shit that he was, fantasizing about his "mom" and about having a little sister, but has to learn to become a better person and avoid the errors that led him to become a piece of shit in his Earth life, and there seem to be a moderately interesting plot developing.

>>151349600
Also tolkiens works in general feature Dungeons which are similar to the modern ones. Given how big effect Tlkien had on western fantasy, its no wonder that rpgs copy the world he created

poor OP should've started a normal meshi thread

It's called fantasy world you tard. Not everything you read is a RPG world/isekai.

What a niwaka.

>>151349681
Nah bruh

tabletop RPGs owe a lot more to Swords and Sorcery types like Michael Moorcock and Fritz Lieber than Tolkein

>>151349783
Sure they do but were talking about dungeons here. You could make an argument that Greek mythos&Dantes Inferno are the earliest works featuring dungeons.

Its ignorant to think that rpg elements like dungeons and elves were created in last 50 years

>>151349487
Well, of course. If we're talking about dungeons of the real world. But we aren't.

Not sure why I'm getting flak about using the term RPG World. It has many features consistently in line with game such as Dungeons and Dragons. And I'm not it's isekai, either.

>>151349965
Greeks had plenty of dungeons in their literature. Minotaurs labyrinth is a dungeon instance in many modern RPGs and the original version predates those by thousand years.

Dungeons arent novel nor are they anything new

It's true that DM has a lot of RPG influences. For starter, the whole setting is called a dungeon even though, technically, it's more of an underground kingdom. The dungeon itself is separated into levels with clearly defined depths and characteristics. Then there's how magic is handled, particularly with how ressurection is accomplished and how often it is done (compared to other fantasies settings).

However, DM is leagues above the isekai crap and other Ainz Fag-Ghoul shit that comes out for a few reasons:
- It takes its setting very seriously with coherent worldbuilding
- The characters / monsters / weapons aren't defined by their levels, the damages they do isn't defined in numeral value (for exemple, no shit like "Kensuke - B Class Sword - 25-29 damages on successful hit - 15% chance of detecting threats")

Some chapters in particulars feel very /tg/-like in how the characters takes a third option to solve a situation, like the frogsuit chapter, so I guess that's what I was getting at, it's like a tabletop RPG campaign narrated by a proper GM.

>>151349030
oops
forgot to add /objectively/i to my filters
won't be seeing your shitposting again, but I will still wish you a merry christmas

>>151349965
>Not sure why I'm getting flak about using the term RPG World.

It's because "RPG world" implies that there exist "skills" and exp and other things that feel blatantly gamey instead of incorporating these mechanics naturally into the world. The only situation where game mechanics get a free pass is when there's an actual game involved like in SAO or Log Horizon. Otherwise they really degrade the authenticity of the setting.

It's not like game mechanics actually exist in a D&D campaign, they're just there for representation. Well, unless your DM is running some kind of metagame.

>>151350053
You think Greeks didn't play RPGs?
The only reason why we can't find their rule books to Mazes and Minotaurs is because their embarrassed parents burned them.

RPGs are old as fuck.

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>>151349030
Not while this exist.

Also,

>Meshi
>isn't actually a video game or uses a ruleset from video games

You have to be joking

>>151350053
I see what you're saying, but I feel like you're looking at the concept similarities. I was looking at it from a more literal point a view. Like, RPGs have dungeons, and the dungeon in DM is literally that. But, I feel that you're correct in saying that the idea of a dungeon is very old.

>>151350186
I'm not shitposting, I just really like Dungeon Meshi. You have a merry Christmas, too.

>>151350209
I guess using RPG World is automatically associated with "videogame world" ? I guess I should have worded it better, but I don't think I'm entirely wrong, either. As >>151350159
said, I still see a lot of RPG influence.

>>151350624
>>Meshi
>>isn't actually a video game or uses a ruleset from video games

I'm not sure what you mean here.

>>151350669
>I'm not sure what you mean here.
People think RPG is shorthand for MMORPG.

>>151350624
stravaganza is good, but dungeon meshi is way better

>>151350669
>I'm not sure what you mean here.

That meshi is obviously game based too. And I love Meshi, but saying that is not like a videogame is pure denial.

ITs basically Wizardry, You crawl the dungeon of a mad sorcerer, resurrecting the fallen ones. If oyu don't want to check the games there is an old Wizardy ova, check it, and you'll see.

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>>151350857
Stravaganza has nudity and yuri.

Checkmate meshifags

>>151351107
Dumb frogposter.

>>151351109
I see it doesn't have a yuri tag on mangaupdates.

>>151351109
And better world building too. The giants were already good but the new town with the beast niggers is amazing.

Also, arguable best story too, or may be "best" is not the work, but is nice to see a fantasy story that tries to be its own thing without any sort of game mechanics.

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>>151351185
Theyre gonna fug soon anon, I know it

>>151351068
Wizardy gets that from old pen and paper RPGs, though. I feel DM is more akin to those old RPGs than to an RPG video game.

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>>151351208
All we know that maid can't end well, she is either gonna die or become evil or happen to be evil all along.

>>151351208
Black hair is an evil treacherous witch. calling for it now.

>>151351109
>has nudity and yuri
you must be 18+ to be here

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>>151351286
>>151351422
Dont you dare to jinx my OTP
>>151351561
I am

>>151351561
so you have to be a kid to like titties?

>>151351712
Age gap is the best tag.

>>151351740
its hard to find good stuff with that and yuri though,
thought I found a good artist that did, but then I found out the rest of what he does is futa on loli.

>>151351805
Name?

>>151351827
if you are into into futaXloli you probably already know the artist.

>>151351862
Good point.

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>>151349512
They will kill red dragon imouto next, then kill dark elf. I expect good things out of these.

>>151352040
>red dragon imouto

I knew some shit like that was going to happen, but it still made me upset. A least we got a cute orc girl out of it.

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>>151352119

I'm sort of interested in picking this up but I don't know if I can be bothered committing to another monthly updated manga. Is it nice?

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>>151349030
I'm enjoying cute spider girl adventures just as much t.b.h.

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>>151349030
I love Dungeon Meshi but I still prefer the world of Guru Guru as a RPG world.

>>151352312
She doesn't actually say this, does she? I don't remember it.

>>151352412
I think it's nice, yeah.

>>151352431
Get your reincarnation shit out of my Meshi thread, cancerfag.

>>151352558
I'll give this a whirl, my friend.

>>151351109
>dude author drawing shoujo-ish manga
Interesting.

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>>151352926
Im more intrigued about the art style. It feels old although that might be because current anime art is trash made by incompetent mangakas.

>>151349030
While I personally agree with your choice, the idea of any kind of objective "best" existing within any form of art is ludicrous.

>>151354110
But Anon, art is only the pale imitation of the ideal form. Therefore, the piece that is closest to the ideal has obtained the firm resemblance of perfection. Thus, it is "best".

>>151354436
But no one can agree on the ideal form.

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>>151354436

>>151353255
His advanced stuff really reminds me of Mori-sensei.

>>151349030
well

yes

>>151354455
>>151354728
Ideal forms are beyond matters of opinion. They transcend human difference and are entirely independent and immutable.

>>151355190
>Ideal forms are beyond matters of opinion.
If the ideal isn't about taste, then what does it matter?

>>151355190
Show 1 example of an ideal form that we can all agree on with no one preferring anything else.

>>151349030
tRPGs > cRPGs

tRPG manga > cRPG manga

Simple as that.

>>151355520
What about tcRPGs, where you have a real GM creating and manipulating the world for you in real time, but you get the benefit of pretty graphics?

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>>151355458

>>151355564
The prettiest graphics are always the ones in your mind.

Does even a game like that exist?

>>151355577
I disagree.

>>151349609
This sounds interesting, sure you don't remember the name?

>>151355591
It's a theoretical possibility and people are aiming for it..
I haven't really gotten into DnD, but from what I heard it has a program now that allows you to follow your battles on the computer.

Also, I heard something about Neverwinter Nights multiplayer, though I never played that game.

I should really expand my horizon.

Helck is best.
Although I'm not even sure if it can be called RPG world, it has "levels" which are meaningless buzzword, you could just say characters are strong-weak and "heroes" - guys that "level up" really fast and have special abilities (but other people have them too so whatever).
Doesn't use any RPG elements otherwise and is just fantasy otherwise.

>>151355458
That's the thing about ideal forms. We can try to grasp it all we want, but as humans it's next to impossible for us to produce it. That's what art is, the pursuit of the ideal form.

>>151350669

>I guess using RPG World is automatically associated with "videogame world" ?

Yep, that seems to be the case.

/tg/ has your back here, by the way, this whole manga has played out like a DM's creative campaign idea - you can practically see the players roleplaying behind each character. The interchangeability of the party makeups is also extremely PnP RPGesque, hell the party wipe into new adventure is a classic adventure hook used by GMs for groups that have experienced a sudden shakeup in the group like several members leaving at once or not being available to play at a good time anymore.

>>151355740
>Helck
>Best than anything

Well how about you stick to its threads then?

>>151355918
Very well constructed point there, Anon. I didn't make some of those parallels in my mind until now, thank you.

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>>151352558
The best thing coming out of this show:

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I always wondered, why there are not HIGH fantasy manga that use Japan as reference?

I mean, when we talk about fantasy is always in an original medieval setting based on medieval europe that makes use of western folklore (elves, dwarves, harpys).

Man, there is even high fantasy worlds based on china but that are not china like Saiunkoku monogatari or Yona.

But there is no manga with original settings based on medieval Japan. And the curious part is that there is lot of fantasy stories set on medieval Japan though, but is always actual Japan or some form of alternative history Japan, not original worlds based on Japan.

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Why arent you reading stravaganza anon?

>>151357983
isn't inuyasha that?

>>151355190
Shut the fuck up Plato, you were smart for an Athenian but your ideas are thousands of years out of date.

>>151358156
Inuyasha takes place in past Japan

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>Dungeon Meshi and Stravaganza on the same thread
>Almost Christmas

Today was a good day

>>151357988
because scans are scarce and no hype behind it.

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>>151352779
It's full of "that" outdated humor, but I still feel like the overall story is pretty fun and Kukuri is cute as hell.

Also the finale of the first season is the two going into the final boss' room but istantly quitting and asking him to wait because they want to have a longer journey together

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>There are no doujins about these two semen demons

I cant believe this has been allowed to happen

>>151358229
You got me Anon. I actually don't even agree with Plato.

>>151355663
>>151349609
Mushoku Tensei

>>151358376
what difference does it make if its past japan is all the other things remain the same

>>151351109
just skimmed through it. Only thing I can say is that the combat is good and so is the art but the ecchi stuff is off putting and so is the sexualizing.

>>151349030

They spend more time cooking junk food that clearing the Dumb Dungeon or searching the dragon.

>>151355190
>m-muh forms
>somehow claims to know the ideal form when by their very nature ideal forms are impossible to know

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>>151359017
>junk food
NANI!

>>151349566
>What is the mines of Moria for 500

>>151355740
Helck is mediocre. It's not "Bad" but it's far from great or even very good. It's passable.

>>151350209

DM explain these "skills" only exist inside of dungeons, people that die inside of the dungeon really arent "dead" they revive with healing magic.

I just want to fuck the elf

>>151359087
Much too late to predate roleplaying.

>>151359057
what else would you call eating monsters

>>151355695
DM mode is an option in NWN though. You will be stuck with the game's mechanics though.

>>151359201
Food. Monsters are even better than normal animals because they're all magical and therefore are even better for mages.

>>151359128
Me too.

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>>151359643

>>151355918
Also from /tg/ here
I would argue that the current iteration of "RPG world" stories are more centered around vidya, therefore it's understandable why people don't associate DM with "RPG world"

If this came out in the 80'same with a record or slayers the comparison to rpg's would be easier to make.

>>151359745
Honestly? I really like her character, the way she reacts to the shenanigans of the other party members is priceless. It only helps that's she's a cute.

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>>151359745
>fat ears

>>151359876
>he doesn't like thicc ears.

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>>151359903
thin sharp ears are the elf ideal

>>151358904
None, really, but that's beside the point: it's an odd detail how stories set in Fantasy Japan are always set explicitly IN Japan, whereas stories set in Fantasy Denmark or England or whatever instead take place in Midland or Albion or some other made-up country.

The closest thing to a Japan-flavored fantasy setting I know (as opposed to a fantasy-flavored Japan setting) is Mushishi, and even there the author has AFAIK stated that it's supposed to BE Japan.

Different anon btw.

>>151359974
She's perfect the way she is, I accept her flaws.

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>>151357988

>>151360009
>whereas stories set in Fantasy Denmark or England or whatever instead take place in Midland or Albion or some other made-up country.
well that seems to apply outside of high fantasy stories too,
for instance strike witches never actually using the countries name (calling America liberion or germany Karlsand),
I think they were just afraid to offend other countries.

>>151359164
Dungeons and dragons = 1974
Lord of the rings = 1968
For contemporary role playing, lots was a huge influence.

>>151351109

>you will never crawl around a hot giantess' clothes and make her orgasm

>>151360009
But Albion is a real place centurion.

>>151360130
>For contemporary role playing, lots was a huge influence.
No one is denying that.

>>151357832

That's not the best thing to come out of the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRa95E0TdkQ&list=PL7AkP0yitZ37ILbLC8cBWVqPq0Dn1iVkX

>>151360403
That's yogurt.

>>151350249
>greek DM puts together a campaign
>throws his Minoaboo shit in
>even opens a portal to his magical realm with the Minotaur
>roman hack Ovid finds the campaign notes and turns it into a sotry

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>>151360403
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/626780/22be40cb9c/

I was gonna call you a faggot but its christmas so whatever

>>151360009
>Different anon btw.

But you explained it lot better than I did.

>>151360009
>>151360748
Stop pretending to be different people, faggot.

>>151360785
But I am a different person than >>151360009

>>151360242
Someone denied that LOTR dungeons predated tabletop rpg dungeons. Only clarifying the timeline.

>>151360870
Someone denied that LOTR dungeons predate RPGs, and not contemporary ones.

>>151358757
It's absolute fucking garbage

>>151360112
Sure, but consider how even in the West, high fantasy stories set in vaguely-Germanic fantasy countries vastly outnumber those about King Arthur's Britain. Yet Japan is perfectly content to churn out one Sengoku Jidai story with youkai after the other. It's an odd contrast, but the reasons probably aren't that profound: all fantasy imitates that which came before, and Japan has a long history of being isolationist.

>>151360963
What other RPGs are there to compare too?

>>151361617
It's also culture. For Japan, wanking of the Sengoku Jidai and the JSDF is seen as normal not only by themselves, but by others too. They even justify it (notice your own isolationism thesis). If any European country tries to do the same with their own tv shows or cartoons, reactions range from "those arrogant, delusional frogs are at it again" to "German nationalism is on the rise".

>>151362133
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_role-playing_games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_live_action_role-playing_games

Merry Christmas

>>151363441
You will cease your merrymaking and respect our culture of brooding passive-aggression.

>>151351068
>Dungeon Meshi is obviously a Lord of the Rings clone
>Has orcs that are bad
>Team of non-identical fantasy people travel to complete an objective

All music is just a mutation of pachabels canon but people keep wasting time listening to it, good thing smart people like you and me exist to cut through the deception right!

>>151360744
>spoonfeeding
I will call you a faggot instead.

>>151355190
You're using a theory people stopped believing in thousands of years ago.

>>151360014
>perfect
>flaws

>>151349030
>Dungeon Meshi is OBJECTIVELY the best "RPG World" manga out there. You simply cannot dispute this fact.
Actully, I certainly wouldn't mind if they made an actual videogame out of this. It would be like the Atelier series, except instead of making potions or equipment you just cook for everything.

Cooking mechanics are rather common in RPGs these days. But why not make it a major element of the game?

>>151367245
>people keep confusing RPG for cRPG

>>151367276
Just play GURPS dungeon fantasy and as a nutritional value to monset drops.

Boom.

Problem solved

>>151367462
>Recommending GURPS
Found the grognard.

>>151367559
There is literally nothing wrong with GURPS 4E. It has better mechanics than any iterative of D&D, though I suppose that is setting the bar low.

>not playing *World exclusively

>>151349050
What's the deal with this?
Why do they make all these "MMO gone bad" animes instead of just doing fucking straight up the setting?

>>151367895
Maybe to have a plot?

>animes

>>151367895
>Why do they make all these "MMO gone bad" animes instead of just doing fucking straight up the setting?
Because MMO is the main type of fantasy that the modern Japan is familiar with. The environment determine the stories that get told.

>>151367965
You can have a plot without needing to put a layer of video games on it
>>151367895
Tie in mobile games, spin offs, etc

>>151367895
Because jap's only familiarity with fantasy concepts comes from video games

>>151367895
Because the audience immediately groks the setting.

>>151367983
>>151368017
>>151368036
Are you telling me if you present a fantasy setting to an average japanese person, without framing it as a videogame, they wouldn't get it?
This is ridiculous.

>>151368017
>Because jap's only familiarity with fantasy concepts comes from video games
THESE DAYS.
Remember there was a time when D&D campaigns were logged and sold as short novels in Japan. It's just that times have moved on.

>>151368121
They didn't really HAVE a fantasy genre until they got video games.
If they see western swords and armor, they think of /v/.

>>151368121
>Are you telling me if you present a fantasy setting to an average japanese person, without framing it as a videogame, they wouldn't get it?
>This is ridiculous.
No, what we are saying is that you would need to waste more time doing world building otherwise, as modern Japanese have little frame of reference for Tolkien era fantasy. The videogames is used as a narrative shortcut, to dive into the meat of the story without needing to explain how everything works.

>>151367616
Yes, quite low, though I'd still disagree. At least with D&D you actually can ignore all of the superfluous extra supplements. I'd rather not use either though.
I'm not much better though, I use Mutants and Masterminds 2E for everything. Even fantasy.

>>151368197
>record of lodoss war is based on a video game
No anon, it isn't.

>>151367895
Because RPG mechanics are all the Japs remember, and not any of the setting's lore.

>>151368304

Are you actually suggesting he's wrong?

I mean even Hidetaka Miyazaki, who creates literal dark fantasy games, says he was inspired by "write your own story" fantasy novels that weren't translated so he never fully understood them.

Which indicates that whilst fantasy existed in plenty of mediums, only video games made it fully accessible to japanese audiences on a broad scale.

>>151368268
But GURPS does let you ignore all the superfluous extra supplements, that is the point. You aren't going to use tactical shooting in a campaign set in Hyboria, you are explicitly only should use what is needed. M&M is pretty good though, I can't deny that.

>>151368980
>Are you actually suggesting he's wrong?
Yes.
>I mean even Hidetaka Miyazaki
Awesome.
>says he was inspired by "write your own story" fantasy novels
Which aren't video games.
>only video games made it fully accessible to japanese audiences on a broad scale
The first Dragon Quest was released in 1986, the first novel of Record of Lodoss War 1988, which was based on a campaign of some nerds playing DnD prior to this. We could argue which one was more influential, I'm no expert on this, but in my opinion RoLW was more influential initially.

>>151369321
I feel like the two of you are arguing about two different things. You're thinking more on absolute terms, looking at the influence on early fantasy anime. The other person seems to be arguing about the average, modern, Japanese anime watcher.
Lodoss definitely had more influence in the years after its release, but modern audiences are more influenced by video games.

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>>151369791
Well, I joined the argument with
>They didn't really HAVE a fantasy genre until they got video games.
If I got this wrong and he meant todays japanese audience that maybe not know about RoLW, then I will proclaim myself a faggot for not getting what he meant.

But yes, I said "initially" because today I see dragonquest sticking around longer and establishing more tropes in japanese western fantasy.

>>151358757
>>151361328
This. I just finished reading through that hot pile of garbage 2 or 3? days ago. It's a solid 3/10. At best. It's so fucking bad holy fucking shit why did I listen to whichever retard on /a/ recommended that piece of trash god fucking damnit why did I read the whole fucking thing instead of dropping it when he got his first deus ex machina power. So mad.

>>151369791
>>151370141
No, I was talking about it in general.
However, the "really" was meant to be a qualifier, and the term was "genre".
I didn't mean to imply they had no western fantasy titles available to them, but that they never really had them in quantities worth mentioning.
But I will readily admit that I made that statement without much thought. RoLW didn't even cross my mind.

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>tfw modeled my elf druid after Marcille

I'm carrying the rest of my party, 5e is lame.

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>>151367559
I recommend GURPS because it's very modular system and one that handles a lot of different cases very easily which is something that might come in handy when you can easily add any number of new mechanics as this story progresses. I understand the stigma around the system but it's one that I feel is very adapted to this kind of campaign.

Not to mention that dungeon Meshi really doesn't have static classes so I'd Rather Go point buy on what to give characters

>>151370780
I'm with you on the point buy point, but I feel like GURPS goes about its basic concept as a universal system the wrong way. By trying to make it universal by statting everything the system just becomes bloated. It's better to genericize anything you want to stat, then let the players and GM decide what it represents.
This is why I prefer M&M. Instead of having to be told the stats for whatever specific weapon you want you can just buy "hitting things" or "shooting things" then say if it's a sword or a fist or a gun or a bow. It's much easier on the players, and is less limiting since you don't have to rely on hoping a stat block exists for what you want to do.

>>151371384
Meh, when I first started playing 3e I would have agreed with you on the bloated idea. But I've been running GURPS for maybe half a decade now and I've learned when to use the rules and when not to and it's a surprisingly light system. All you really need is 3d6 and your skill checks everything else is up to you.

Depending on the type of campaign, I tend to either run with very loose cinematic rules or I'll bring in a more crunchy tules for a science fiction or post apocalypse campaign.

At least in this case there really isn't a wrong system to use for Dungeon meshi so long as you allow for the players to play a Dungeon Crawler where you eat stuff.

I usually just rep gurps because it's such a comfortable system once you get past the initial shock. And combat is by far the fastest out of any system I've run aside from FATE

>>151359825
If this came out in the 80s, everyone would know that it's Wizardry.
Heck, the one-shot of Dungeon Meshi even had nekkid ninjas who are depicted as lean mean killing machines as an injoke.

Its old but is still great

http://avxblog.ru/129228-wizardry-xvid-ureshii.html

>>151367895
It has to do with the authors. The real reason for this trend is because most authors writing the isekai genre these days are people writing shit on websites and not real professionals, so they lack the ability to set up a proper and concrete worldview. This will occasionally lead to situations where something they write makes no logical sense and shouldn't really be possible in a well thought up fantasy world. By setting everything in an MMO setting, they can get away with this by saying "it's just a game / based on a game so of course this isn't a plot hole/asspull".

In addition, setting it in a game that's basically an expy of a real-life game even relieves the author of thinking up rules, interactions, and worldview, they can just use what someone else has created.

>>151352606
It's an edit.

>>151372284
The Wizardry OVA is far better than it has any right to be.

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>>151358608
nor these

>>151349050
Goblin Slayer is D&D 3e

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>>151371942
>Wizardry ninjas

>>151352040
>>151352119
Knew it

>>151366995
Ever heard of wabi-sabi?

>>151370561
>druid
>not wizard/sorceror specializing in necromancy

Dunno about any of you, but the Orc Captain Girl is a cute. CUTE!

>>151352412
I like it particularly for its heavy use of cooking, along with being a pretty competent fantasy manga.

>>151349030
I dispute it.

You are therefore wrong.

>>151349435
>The reason I call it RPG World

Oh, so you're giving it a categorization on your own, based on your opinion, then get upset because people don't know exactly what you mean.

Gee, I wonder why people don't immediately understand what a poster means in full when someone uses an arbitrary categorization?

>>151386761
I dispute your disputation, and insist you provide some examples to illustrate why you feel the need to dispute.

>>151357988
I just tried reading this and it was garbage. Entire chapters with no plot, she falls completely out of a dress and corset and is completely nude beneath. Waste of my time

>>151359126
>DM explain these "skills" only exist inside of dungeons
wut

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>>151350624
>>151351109
It's interesting how Stravaganza IS Fantasy but has had no magic yet despite there being lots of non-human races and monsters.

>>151386167
It was a campaign restriction, no arcane stuff.