For those of you who didn't understand what Toyo meant when

Sauce?

Is the autist going to be retarded in this thread too?

>>151284625
If not him, then someone else. You know where you are.

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>>151284625
More than likely.

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>Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P10.5-8, P11.1-3
Piccolo: “Goku…There’s something I want to ask you while I’ve got the chance…[ ] …That Super Saiyan 3 thing earlier…if you had gone all-out, wouldn’t you have been able to defeat Majin Boo?...How about it, am I wrong?”
Goku: “Nah, I don’t know…When it comes to Majin Boo’s strength, it’s like a lie…I think that I probably couldn’t have won…”
Piccolo: “…Probably? Knowing you, why didn’t you try until the very end?...Does it have to do with that energy…?”
Goku: “No…I’m no longer a human who’s particularly even supposed to be here…I shouldn’t be the one to do it. It’d be better for these young guys to solve things somehow or another…After all, some other outrageous guy might show up eventually, right? …It's a nasty gamble, but…Seeing those two super-gifted squirts, it made me want to take this gamble…”

>Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”


Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu
Goku was stronger than Gohan at full power

Fat buu, aka the fat kaioshin, was hindering him the whole time. As long as fat buu was part of him he never reached his full potential.

Once fat buu was removed he reverted to his original, child like state and finally reached his full power.

Thats DB 101 dubfag, it was accepted long before DB was even in english.

>>151284620
We're still in the future trunks arc but they showed Toyotaro's art in the trailer for the universe survival arc

Does any anon happen to have the webm of the recent trailer saved?

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>tfw the mangafags and animefags will never stop fighthing about which one is canon even after this
Just let it end please

The Daishinkan is manipulating the Zenos because of their child-like innocence and Whis and Vados are in on it to preserve the Daishinkan's intended order of the universe.
Beerus will have to betray Whis to help Goku and co.

>>151284698
>Super Buu

What? Super Buu isn't even mentioned there

>>151284698
Honestly, who even cares if Goku was stronger than Gohan? Goku was dead and couldn't fight Buu, so Gohan had to become mystic.

Super Buu was still stronger than Kid Buu, retard. Kid Buu did not have any of the absorptions that made him incredibly powerful.

>>151284827
They're both canon, but as it's confirmed that the anime will always be ahead, and is viewed by more people, it goes anime > manga

>>151284827
Have you been reading this thread and the last? That's not a thing anymore. Now we have the Pure Boo/Super Boo arguments.

>>151284849
No he wasn't you idiot. Fat Buu was hindering Super Buu from reaching full power. When he became Kid, he was no longer held back, and unleashed his full power.

Kid Buu was the strongest. That's why he whipped everyone's ass, and it's why they didn't call in Gotenks and Gohan to help. It's the entire point of Kid Buu. The heroes think they fixed everything, but they made it much worse

>>151284883
>Pure Boo/Super Boo arguments.

Isn't it obvious that Super Buu is stronger but Kid Buu more dangerous?

>people trying to argue that Kid Buu is the strongest Buu form in the CURRENT YEAR TWENTY SIXTEEN even though his entire premise is that he's the weakest Buu but makes up for it with his unpredictable behavior
/a/ has really gone downhill.

>>151284827
It's just an autist who thinks Kid Buu was the strongest Buu (he wasn't).

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>>151284982
Not to these autists, anon. Not to these autists..

>>151284806

>>151261112
>>151261152
>>151261190

>>151284568
I wonder if we'll get more episodes like the baseball one, the driving one from Z was also top tier filler, god damn

>>151284960
Kid Buu's *strength* was that he had no sense of reason, he just wanted to destroy everything in his path. Vegeta and Goku wanted to fight him alone and even planned to take turns to fight him. Goku didn't try and almost died because of it.

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>>151284698
>Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu


Then why does Goku not hesitate to fight Kid Buu, but is afraid to fight Super Buu

Seriously, answer me you fucking faggot.

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>>151285123
Goku and Vegeta were wrong about his power. Vegeta got curbstomped and Goku got beat up to the point he was regretting destroying the potara.

>>151284998
Wouldn't Super Buu be the stongest since he's fat buu + skinny/evil buu together? fat buu and by extension evil buu are apparently gimped but multiply their gimpedness by 2 and it has to be at better right?

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>>151285243
>That scan
>left to right
Holy shit, anon. Let me help you out.

>>151285225
>But anon he's saying "like this" xD he's obviously talking about their size, b-because they're tiny at that point

>>151285225
Read
>>151285243

>>151284960
>Fat Buu was hindering Super Buu from reaching full power. When he became Kid, he was no longer held back, and unleashed his full power.

Fat Buu wasn't preventing Super Buu from reaching his full power, he was preventing Buu from becoming totally fucking insane. Goku lost to Kid Buu not because Kid Buu is so much stronger, but rather because Kid Buu fights like an unpredictable lunatic.

>>151285251
Super Buu (Gohan absorption) would be his strongest form, but shh they can't understand.

>>151285243
>He became more controllable
Because Fat Buu just wanted chocolate, retard. He didn't care about fighting.

>>151285054
>implying its not everyone else vs you

Just got to this thread, and people already copied my posts from the last thread.

Kid buu was the strongest, always has been, always will be.

This was an arguement back when people were bootlegging fansubs on vhs and watching small .gifs on 28mb dailup, and this was always the answer.

Dubfags need to gtfo, go back to gaia or leddit or whereever the fuck else you faggots go to be faggots.

>>151285419
>everyone else vs you
>irony
At least some of the manga vs anime posts were actually hilarious and creative, but this is just plain autism.

>>151285358
And Goku didn't really try because he wanted Vegeta to get his chance. Goku underestimated Vegeta's strength and that Vegeta couldn't finish the job.

>>151285419
>dubfags
>you faggots go to be faggots
Are you fucking retarded? The actual manga was used against you, proving you wrong.

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>Gohan can handle you now

Huh? Why doesn't Goku just beat Buu himself if he is stronger than Gohan!

>>151285419
Your samefagness is astonishing.

>>151285419
>dubfags

That's funny because it's the amerifat dub the one that sucked Kid Buu's dick so much to the point where retards think he was the stronger Buu

>>151285529
Goku is a retard.

Also he want Gohan to be dependable on.

>>151285529
Goku's retarded? Goku wanted Gohan to continue to be the protector of Earth?

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>>151285529
>a-anon, goku wanted to give the victory to gohan!

>>151285517
He's obviously baiting, nobody can be fucking stupid enough to think that ignoring this much proof is going to convince anyone. Everyone just stop responding to him and he'll fuck off, sperging out and arguing with him is what he wants.

>>151285529
>I-IT'S BECAUSE HE'S SAYING THAT S-SUPER BUU IS SO WEAK THAT EVEN GOHAN CAN BEAT HIM!!

>>151285622
This argument isn't even able Goku or Gohan being stronger it's about you retards thinking Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.

>canon
>Mr Boo < Evil Boo < Kid Boo < Super Boo < Boo-Piccolo < Ultra Boo < Boo-Gotenks < Boo-Gohan

If you are disagree, you are wrong.

>>151285678
What about Majin Buu (first meeting Buu)?

>>151285556
Kid Buu was stronger for the same reason Goku is stronger then Vegeta.

He's more then likely a living elemental of fighting and battle.
He litterally picked up every single attack and skill and fighting ability that he saw the others use and used it as good as they did.
And he did it for shits and giggles
His invulnerability, stamina are also increased and made infinite and instantaneous.

He's more powerful then buuhan in all the ways that would matter in a fight. I am of the mind that the only way Veggerott would have been able to beat Kid Buu is if he convinced Kid Buu to stand still long enough to take a full power energy blast.

>>151285678
>Ultra Boo
What?

>>151285724
The buff Buu, the form after he absorbed Southern Supreme Kai

>>151285724
I think he's stronger then Buuhan if I'm not mistaken. His absorption powers are just a clusterfuck.

>>151285517
Except it wasnt, ever. I hope english isnt your first language cuz you need to brush up on your reading skills.

>>151285535
That was my first post itt, this is my second. Try harder.

>>151285556
I never even watched the buu saga dub.

>>151285723
>Goku and Vegeta couldn't fight Super Buu alone
>Goku fought Kid Buu alone
>Kid Buu was stronger XD

Retard

>>151285678
>canon
>Boo

Pick one.

>>151285667
>it's about you retards thinking Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu
>Kid Buu
>Stronger than Super Buu

But he's not

>>151284985
He was stronger than fat buu but weaker than super buu

>>151285855
That's what we're trying to tell this one autist, he won't listen.

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>>151285867
Which Fat Buu? When we first meet Majin Buu, he could rekt Kid Buu, after him and Evil Buu separate, Kid Buu would rekt him.

>>151285808
Goku was barely able to keep up with Kid Buu and he was using the most powerful normal super saiyajin form ever.
AND it was probably tearing him apart.

Goku talked Kid Buu into fighting him normally because Kid Buu and Goku are just alike.

Willing to hold back tremendously to fight a fun opponent.

>>151285891
>projecting this hard

>>151285723
>He's more powerful then buuhan in all the ways that would matter in a fight.

Fuck, it was bait. You got me anon, I'll give a 6/10

>>151285942
Granted I only watched the anime, but in the manga doesn't Goku say he held back in order to let Vegeta get his turn? Goku is retarded like usual and almost always the universe to be destroyed.

>>151285941
No, just no.

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>>151286008
No. The exact opposite, actually.

>>151286019
Prove me wrong. SSJ3 could do no damage to Majin Buu when they first fought.

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>>151285845
>http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/campaign/img/icon/04boo.png
>dragon_s/campaign/img/icon/04boo.png
>icon/04boo.png
>BOO

>>151286074
Didn't know that was changed in the anime, thanks.

>>151285942
>Goku talked Kid Buu into fighting him normally because Kid Buu and Goku are just alike.
No he didn't. Kid Boo probably doesn't even understand language.

>>151286138
Goku literally says that he could've destroyed fat buu when they first fought, but he didn't because it wasn't his job as a dead man to solve the problems of the living.

>>151286321
Have the panel? I honestly don't remember that ever happening.

>>151285983
Never ever tires, buuhan got tired as fuck
Injury means less then nothing, buuhan got hurt and it looked like it was lasting a long time
He doesn't use his unique skill of picking up the skill anyone else uses almost instantly
He doesn't fight cleverly and recklessly

He's in fact weaker as a fighter.
YES he picked up Gohan's raw power and mutant ability to get nigh infinitely stronger with pure rage(something vegerott noticed during the battle, and stopped him from tearing a hole in reality with his impotent childish anger) but that has a hard ceiling and is useless if they can get bumrushed instantly.
And his south kai absorbed form was even stronger then that.

Kid Buu is a fucking monster and we have no actual idea of his real power levels at all.

We do know that Kid buu got sick of fighting with Goku because he could no longer fight at a decent level and was getting sloppy. So he basically said "I'm sick of this shit everyone is going to die in the god realm/realm of the dead".

Even Fat Buu only managed to annoy the shit out of him.

I see people in other threads talking about bringing Cell back into play for Super somehow, but this thread makes me say fuck that.

Bring Buu back. Theres gotta be a universe somewhere someTIME where Buu went unchecked or is just still laying dormant.

Wouldnt even have to power him up artificially or anything, cuz its fucking Buu. Imagine a Buu that managed to absorb a fucking a whole fucking universe... so strong even zeno couldnt erase it!

Fund it.

>>151284698
>Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu
I agree
>Goku was stronger than Gohan at full power
Don't be stupid. Kid Buu is stronger than super buu, but Gohan could curbstomp super buu whereas goku was likely evenly matched with it.
Also, I don't think Goku would have been able to beat even fat Buu as SS3.
He ate up at least 12 hours of his time on earth in that 5 minute battle, so much he only had about 30 minutes or so left when he got back.

Meaning he probably only had less than a minute before his time ran out and whatever happens to ghosts who run out of time happened.

>>151286229
Talking isn't just about using words dumbfuck.
The hell is wrong with you.
This is something infants and animals understand.

>>151286019
Fat Buu is the result of Kid Buu absorbing the Supreme Kais
How the fuck is he weaker?

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>>151286445
Sorry that I was retarded then. I take back Fat Buu being able to defeat Kid Buu then.

Also reminder that Kid Buu blasted the earth so hard Goku couldn't even think of trying to deflect it. He could have turned into SS3 instantly (as we see he does earlier when he's looking for a potara partner), but chose not to because he knew he was outmatched.
Kid Buu was quite a bit stronger than SS3, he was pretty much fooling around most of the fight.

>>151286408
>I agree
Then you're retarded and must have a hard-on for ignoring evidence.

>>151286408
>goku was likely evenly matched with it.
That's the thing. He wasn't.
Kid buu was literally toying with him.
Goku couldn't do shit.

>>151286442
Reading the whole thread helps
>>151285303

>>151286531
And you have a hard-on for ignoring the outright statement that Super Buu's ki grew when he transformed into kid Buu.

>>151286532
I mean with Super Buu. But the three Buu forms (fat, super and kid) are pretty close in power, Mystic Gohan was a big leap beyond any of those, and Buutenks/Buuhan was even more, and Vegeto was way way more.

>>151286531
>shit posting this hard

There are multiple pics in this very thread that counter any evidence you might think you have, but we all know you really dont.

>>151286445
God this is the shittiest retcon.

Just proves that buu saga is the worst.

>>151286442
You tell me.
His power apparently isn't cumulative. It simply picks the best things about whatever he absorbs and adds it too his current form.

It's why buu transformed into piccubuu after the gotenks fusion ran out.

The overwhelming good in the weak as fuck fat supreme kai overwhelmed his evil and made him relatively innocent and gave him a sweet tooth. That supereme kai made the ultimate sacrifice to save the universe.
Because, let's face it. Beerus would have had to wake up and take him out and beerus probably would have been absorbed.

>>151286627
His only evidence is still "b-but goku didn't want to fight him when they were on earth" despite the mountain of examples that show goku misjudged the Buu's power pretty hard many times.

>>151286646
The fuck?
That's not a fucking retcon. That's motherfucking canon.

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>>151286408
>goku was likely evenly matched with it
No, he says that him and Vegeta both wouldn't stand a chance against that form.

>>151286620
>>151286627
Samefagging baiting retards. Just stop.

>>151286744
Why is Vegeta so shit? He broke the whole potara

>>151286646
How is that even close to a retcon?

Goku has a history of doing this at this point, he just loves to fight, he doesnt give a fuck whos actually stronger.

>>151286744
Don't bother, anon. That has been used against him before.
>B-BUT GOKU MEANT THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE A-ABLE TO FIGHT IN THEIR SMALL HEIGHT

>>151286744
Goku says a lot of shit that arc and is wrong many, many times.
He couldn't have even beaten fat Buu since he had like 30 seconds of earth time left in SS3.

>>151286770
>tfw no argument left so I must call names

>>151286782
MUH Saiyan pride.

>>151286537
All that proves is that although Fat Buu is stronger, he's less dangerous. I'm talking raw power and ki.

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>>151286646
>This is the shittiest retcon

Anon please

>>151286620
They aren't. Fat Buu is demonstrably weaker then Super Buu and Kid Buu is objectively and canon stronger and has more feats period.

The Kais made him weaker.

>>151286744
Goku also laughs when he sees Kid Buu the first time, then literally has to beg him to not destroy the earth because he knew he couldn't stop his attacks.

In other words, Goku is wrong, stupid.

>>151286799
>tfw I've been repeatedly proved wrong but have a compulsion to keep arguing using no points and headcanon

>>151286782
Toriyama loathed the entire idea of veggetto.

>>151286799
>He couldn't have even beaten fat Buu since he had like 30 seconds of earth time left in SS3.

He fought fat boo for longer than 30 seconds. If he went all-out from the start he could've destroyed him with probably a kamehameha.

>>151286871
He's weaker, yes. But not by much. Super Buu's only a little stronger, mostly because he's more aggressive and has a better body to fight (outright stated).
Kid Buu is also only a little stronger than Super Buu. The big gap in powerlevel comes when he absorbed Gotenks/Gohan, that was a huge difference.

>>151286907
Reposting the same page over and over isn't proving shit. You don't seem to understand the difference between what characters say and know, and what the truth is or can be.

>>151286871
NO THEY FUCKING DIDN'T!
The kais made him more "good", fat, and just want candy. Because of that, Babadi could bribe him with candy instead of just wrecking shit for fun.

>>151286866
>literally admitting to be a powerlvlfag

well theres the problem right there.

>>151286928
Source? He wanted to use fusion, but didn't want to use Vegetto because the movie was doing Gogeta.

What about the concept of the Potara?
That was simply, since Fusion was a plot point that was already taken by one of the movies, I was wondering what I should do; I had always been drawing earrings [on Kaiōshin], so I thought, “perhaps I can use these”…

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-6-akira-toriyama-super-interview/

>>151286951
He fought fat Buu for like 5 minutes and ate more than 12 hours of earth time. He had 30 minutes or so left of earth time.
He couldn't have maintained SS3 for more than 30 seconds after that, and I seriously doubt he could have truly erased fat Buu even going all out from the start.

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>goku
>not retarded

>>151286981
Didn't want to use Gogeta because the movie was doing Gogeta*
My autism kicked in.

>>151286958
He's weaker period.
The fight between fat buu and kid buu was an outright stomp.
Super buu is also only slightly stronger because he absorbed stronger opponents who added their strength and unique ability to his.
Kid buu however, is the better fighter plus we have no idea of his actual natural abilities.

Hell his kid form might not even be his true form. Just some form the Bibbidi put him in.

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>b-but muh guku is really smart you guys i swear at muh mum

>>151286958
Just admit you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and drop it so we can all move on. You have to be either one of the stupidest people or one of the most successful trolls I've seen in these threads.

>>151286974
Kid buu slapped his shit all fucking day.
ALL FUCKING DAY
Want me to post pages from the manga and anime?

The kais made him fucking weaker.
The only one that was a cumulative positive was south kai and he was objectively stronger then buuhan and thus he was just tiers above fat buu.
So his absorbtion thing is just... all over the fucking place.

Fat buu is weaker then kid buu. Period.
The kais(outside of south kai)made him weaker.

>>151286991
>more than 30 seconds after that
Obviously he wouldn't have enough time after playing around with Majin Boo all that time. That's why I said he could've done it if he went all out from the beginning, not after wasting his time with that little bout they had.

>>151286981
He pulled the potara out of his ass because Toei told him "look bitch we're going to put gogeta in a movie" and he couldn't do a fucking thing about it.
So he pulled the potaro retcon out of his ass at the last second.

BUT he got rid of it/didn't use it too it's full potential very quickly and even casually threw it away and had both goku and vegetta say how much the fucking loathed the very idea of fusing.

He hated the potaro and the idea of them becoming vegetto.

>>151286976
This isn't even about being a power level fag this is about fucking math
If Kid Buu = 5 and the Supreme Kais together = 2, then obviously when he absorbs them Fat Buu = 7
This argument is so completely stupid.

>>151286974
>being this literal

Holy shit you really might be on the spectrum...

Like idk what else to tell you, we have evidence, you have provided nothing. Balls in your court kid.

>>151287157
Why, because Goku said he could? Name one time Goku wasn't a complete retard in this series.

>>151287250
And yet, Kid Buu stomped on Fat Buu

The anime is literally horseshit.

The manga is acceptable, especially the most recent chapter.
Way better than the anime.


But as usual, /a/-tards have no taste at all.

>>151287250
>being this autistic
Please stop trying to use math to explain things since you clearly have no idea how the fuck it works. I bet you also think SSB Vegito should be far above Whis because of the 6, 10, and 15 numbers Toriyama gave.

>>151286716
It's a retcon because before he says this shit, it's pretty obvious he's outmatched by buu.

>doesn't want to end it on mystic gohan
>just has goku say he was pretending to be retarded all along

Yeah, it's retarded and it's shit.

>>151287281
>Goku said he could win XD
Then why didn't SSJ3 beat Super Buu (Gohan absorption) if Super Buu is weaker than Kid Buu?

>>151287349
Most people are appearing to be mangafags in these threads now. You get the occasional fag who says he prefers the anime but I think most of those are just bored retards trying to stir up more pointless shitflinging wars. The bottom line is it really doesn't fucking matter which one people prefer.

>>151287250
Have you even read the fucking manga?

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b-but guku wasn't like this at the saiyan saga i swear!

>>151286321
That retarded mentality is what got F. Trunks' entire reality destroyed. F. Goku, like his mainline counterpart, is an idiot for just watching Black and Zam destroy everything.

>>151287341
The Fat Buu at the end of the Buu arc and the Fat Buu at the beginning of the arc are quite clearly not the same in regards to power.
Fat Buu lost half of his power when he split the first time.

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>>151284568

Manga confirmed canon and Toriyama confirmed loving the manga over the filler anime.

Unfortunately, Superpadre's can't see that.

Friendly reminder that the names for the different forms of Buu were invented by video games and thus aren't canon.

>>151287412
ssj3 didnt defeat kid buu either, the fuck are you even talking about?

>>151287475
Ya and if Krillin had killed Vegeta, Trunks would've never been born so Goku would've died from the heart virus and Cell would've wiped out humanity.

>>151287506
There are already enough retarded arguments in this thread you autistic spergbag, stop trying to start more or fuck off.

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>>151287401
This anon speaks the truth.

>>151287565
>left to right
what the FUCK is this shit?

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>>151286994
Goku is a complete retard. He didn't even told Gohan about his plan on the cell games.
No wonder Vegeta has defeated Goku every single time they have fought.

>>151287565
>posts left to right dogshit translations as "proof"

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>>151287548

not an argument

>>151287588
dubfags

not even once

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>>151287565
Holy shit this scan is garbage.

>>151287635
You're lucky I don't know where you are or I'd beat the fucking shit out of you, you shitflinging simian piece of trash. Don't fucking post again.

>>151287565
Maybe Toriyama was being consistent with Goku lying. He told Vegeta he wanted to end the fight quick and go woth everything and still keep the ssj3 transformation in secret. He was sweating and looking nervous.

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>h-he wasn't like this when fighting his brother thou hahaha

>>151287668
>posts cowboy goku translation

"hey piccolo, our papa always taught us not t' be ashamed of our dicks 'specially since they're such a mighty size 'n all."

>>151287505
Explain how he lost the power up from south kai?
Or how Kid Buu didn't go down in power after Fat Buu was expelled.
Or how Kid Buu was able to destroy Fat buu, even though, by your logic, he should be stronger because he's the form that still has the fat supreme kai in him.

>>151287703
Oooh, you're sooo scary.

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>>151287760

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>>151287703

posting again

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>>151287134
To be fair, thanks to that we got one of the best characters of the franchise

>>151287760
Goku's speech mannerisms are treated that way even in the original Japanese anime you subhuman fucking moron.

Jesus Christ, why is everyone in this fucking thread an autist? Where the fuck am I tonight?

>>151287760
>mighty size
And not
>super size

You had one job.

>>151287802
This is a Dragon Ball thread on /a/, anon. Did you expect anything less?

>>151287792
I will kill you faggot, post your address

>>151287760
He talks like a hick in the original version, too.

>>151287802
>Where the fuck am I tonight?
You're on /a/, what did you expect?

>>151287766
Supreme Kai is completely absorbed by then, the Fat buu he expels is nothing more than a husk of bubblegum.

>>151287709
Whats consistant with goku is that he just loves fighting. He doesnt care whos stronger really, and hell do whatever it takes to get a good fight, even if it means holding back.

Thats always been his character, hes not the jp superman, hes a dumb country bumpkin who loves to brawl, like really loves it, so much so that hell put himself and his friends and family in harms way to do it.

>>151285529
>Huh? Why doesn't Goku just beat Buu himself if he is stronger than Gohan!
Mistyc Gohan was canon the strongest character at that time. Only weaker than Super Buu fusions

>>151287836
I always expect autism, but not these levels of autism. It's like autism has been transcended somehow.

wtf is this thread

>>151287901
It's a Dragon Ball thread

>>151287901
i will explain to u if u say hi to me

>>151286716
>>151286785
It probably is. Toriyama was getting so tired of Dragon Ball by the end that his ability to wing-it suffered. Toriyama bullshitted a lot. He was just good at it until he was tired of it.

>>151287802
It was a joke, calm down pedro, you're gonna develop a goiter at this rate.

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>>151285529
>It's kinda dissapointing
>kinda dissapointing
What? Goku and Gohan were getting their asses kicked and just when Buu gets weaker he says he is dissapointed? Why? Did Goku wanted to fuse forever with Gohan or what.

>>151287874
That doesn't actually answer my question.
Kid Buu should have still had the South Kai form.
Fat Buu should have also been stronger then Kid Buu
And Kid Buu should have gone down in power after he released Fat Buu

None of those things happened.

Kid Buu is stronger then Fat Buu.

>>151287952
>pedro
>implying spic
>implying spic is bad
fucking queer

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>>151287990
>picture
>looking forward to saturday

>>151287930
It's not.
It's consistent with everything we've seen and what has been posted.

>>151287881
>He doesnt care whos stronger really
He wanted to avoid fighting Super Buu and his subsequent fused forms, though, because he recognized that he'd easily get killed.

>>151288021
theres no need to imply being a spic is bad

we all know

>>151288065
>hehe look at my le kewl edgy racist comments xD

>>151288057
>goku
>wanting to avoid fighting

>>151287891
They were holding back their autism the whole time.

>>151286074
People always ignore this panel. Proof that Kid Buu was just toying with Goku. It's why he was strong enough to resist the Spirit Bomb, he was really THAT strong.

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>>151288136
Yeah? Well unfortunately for them, I've also been holding back my autism. Witness my true form

>>151284568
Still at it

>>151284620
His ass. We've been over this for several threads already and the Toyo autist never gives up.

>>151287990
>le inbetween is le bad animation xD

>>151288204
Please save us and start the anime vs manga argument. This Boo one is too autistic.

>>151288189
(You)

>>151288148
The really fucked up thing?
He didn't really have to absorb any of the people he did.
He did it for the same reason he picked up the kamehawave and all of goku's fighting skills.
For fun.

That's why the fat supreme kai was able to stop him.

>>151288243
Bait or Toeishill, either way kill yourself.

>>151288372
hi<3

>>151288433
Hi, faganon.

>>151288148
>Proof that Kid Buu was just toying with Goku.

And that´s the fucking problem. Goku can´t deal with Kid Buu's way of fighting. That doesn´t mean that Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan in terms of raw power.

>It's why he was strong enough to resist the Spirit Bomb, he was really THAT strong.

Kid Buu only resisted the Spirit Bomb when Goku was completely out of strength. He was instantly wiped out when Goku's strength was restored with the wish.

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>>151288412
>Look at this le bad inbetween xD
>Z-zoom? N-no I didn't use it but fuuuck look at this le bad animation xD

>>151288148
>>151288403
Actual discussion between people who get the subject matter? On MY /a/???

>/pol/fags calling everyone a shill or cuck slows down
>now super buu vs kid buu fags show up
An unexpected turn in the autistic world of dragon ball "fans"

>>151288498
He still resisted a fucking Spirit Bomb made from everyone on Earth and was able to push it back. Being out of energy doesn't mean shit with a Spirit Bomb, Goku formed the thing when he was weakened.

>>151288021
>mfw you literally gave free (You)s to another pedro

Laughing at ya life, senpai. Learn to understand jokes before giving your 3rd world spanish psychoanalysis on autism.

>>151287842
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20500

cum at me

>>151288519
Are you actually defending this shit you dumb fucking bastard?

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Who's hyped for Mr. Satan v Great Saiyaman: Dawn of Justice?

>>151288576
Enjoy the cheeseless sauceless pizza you sperglord

>>151288538
>Being out of energy doesn't mean shit with a Spirit Bomb
Obviously it does. Because as soon as Goku regained his energy he destroyed Kid Buu.

>>151288588
Not hyped, not only because waiting 15 days, but because it's a Gohan episode.

>>151288551
shut up stupid bitch

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>>151288651
How's your first day on /a/?

>>151288623
Because he was able to power up and push against it with his ki. Are you really this stupid? His strength doesn't affect the strength of the Spirit Bomb.

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>>151288577
>Fuuuuuck look at this le bad animation xDDD
>I know it's not moving but damn this animation is le bad xD

>>151288665
better than fucking your mother pointless bitch.

>DBZ animator complains about DBS anime power scaling

http://comicbook.com/2016/12/22/dragon-ball-z-animator-reveals-what-disappoints-him-about-dragon/

>>151288708
Alright, anon, you got me, I fell for the bait. 6/10. Run along, now.

>>151288498
I never said he's stronger than Buuhan. I'm pretty sure when people say he's stronger than Super Buu, they mean the one without the absorbed Saiyans. He's a better fighter than Buuhan though. And he has far better stamina and regen. Kid Buu is the only Buu to have instant regen. He was also great at hiding his power, since everyone kept underestimating him

>Goku and Vegeta thought he was a weakling, he replied by nuking the planet
>Goku and Vegeta then thought he was still manageable, he replied by BTFO of SSJ3 Goku and toyed with him

He's the strongest base Buu. Only reason Goku fought Kid Buu while being scared of Super Buu is because Kid Buu had his power suppressed until he fought

What an absolutely fucking awful thread.
You guys are cancer.

>>151288204
>He didn't see the latest arc trailer using Toyo's manga.

Toyo also confirmed it via interview that he'll be sending his manga scans to Toei

>>151288690
>His strength doesn't affect the strength of the Spirit Bomb.

I never said that was the case. I said that you need energy in order to even use the fucking move. Kid Buu didn't resist the Genki Dama because he was that strong, he resisted it because Goku didn't have the energy to push it.

>>151288850
We've already discussed the trailer. It does not mean he's ahead in any way.

>Toyo also confirmed it via interview that he'll be sending his manga scans to Toei
And now you're going full delusional again

>>151288850
Not him, but sauce? I'm not being a dick, I just want to be sure.

I never understood this shit. When "Evil Boo" comes out of Fat Boo, why does Evil Boo look like Super Boo but grey?
He goes on to absorb Fat Boo and turns into Super Boo, but once he loses Fat Boo again, he turns into Kid Boo.
So therefore... Evil Boo = Kid Boo?

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I finally caught up on the Super anime. Can someone explain to me why the choreography is so fucking shit for most of these episodes? I'm not even going to come at the animation/art anymore, since that's practically a meme at this point. Seriously. The blasts look like shit, the sound effects have little to no impact, the reused shots are incredibly obvious and tiresome.

I haven't read the manga since I wanted to be reasonable with the anime, but at this point, it seems like a better alternative.

>>151288814
>I never said he's stronger than Buuhan
Right, in that case I apologize for being a retard. I've seen plenty of discussions where people claim that Kid Buu is the strongest out of all the Buu forms and assumed that this was the same.

>>151288988
Well they're retards. Probably been here too long, it gets to you

>>151288873
This has got to be a troll

Or are newfags this ignorant of the source material really so carefree about posting on here now? If thats the case you all need to step your games up cuz this is pathetic.

>>151288977
Toei doesn't care because they know that it'll sell anyway. That's why they put less experienced (and likely cheaper) animators on their popular shit like Dragon Ball Super and One Piece.

>>151288988
But he is, i thought we were passed this?

Jesus fuck did you even read the fucking thread?

>>151288926
No... not even close

>>151288873
You legitimately have no idea what you're talking about, i.e. you only watched the originally-dubbed anime, or you're trolling. You don't need a damn bit of energy to use the Spirit Bomb. The whole fucking point of the move is to collect energy from others to accomplish feats you couldn't yourself. Needing energy to use it would make it borderline worthless.

Fucking autists.

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>>151285303
>Toriyama can't into screentones or backgrounds

>>151289138
>passed this
Don't try to argue when you're a mongoloid.

>>151288873
If that's the case, then why couldn't Freeza resist it back when Goku used it on him? Goku was even more drained when he used it on Freeza after all.

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>>151289125
That's a shame, really. If Toei doesn't care, then I find no reason as to why I should. Why do people defend this? Why? It's shit.

>>151289348
Because only plebs watch the anime for DBZ and OP. They are blissfully ignorant that they are being fed slop.

>>151289348
I can't understand how people here can like the Black arc when its full of shit like this

>>151289208
>you only watched the originally-dubbed anime
>Spirit Bomb
0/10

>You don't need a damn bit of energy to use the Spirit Bomb. The whole fucking point of the move is to collect energy from others to accomplish feats you couldn't yourself.

You don't need ki to make the genki dama, but obviously you DO need it to push the fucking thing. If ki isn't a factor in using the genki dama, then why was Goku recovering his ki the deciding factor during his clash with Buu? Did you even read the fucking Buu arc?

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>>151289209
He just doesn't waste time using them, considering it's a weekly schedule and all.

He used them frequently in early DB and on cover pages and shit.

>>151289348
Because it has Dragon Ball in the name

>>151289432
>but obviously you DO need it to push the fucking thing
This is literally what we've been saying this entire time

>>151289209
AT's a maximum-reward-for-minimum-effort kind of artist, and he's damn good at it.

>>151289348
Seriously?

Do we really hate Toei this much that we're gonna bash the Future Trunks arc when it had standard animation for most of its episodes and some pretty good animation during the major scenes?

>>151289348
>Why do people defend this?
Because it's Dragon Ball and plebs eat that shit up no matter how bad it looks. You should stop watching the anime and read the manga, which at least consistently looks decent.

>>151289348
Because it's an interesting new direction for the series and expands the lore, even if the animation is mediocre sometimes.

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>>151289480
>considering it's a weekly schedule and all.
The majority of weekly series use screentones and draw backgrounds. I think he kind of paved the way for the lazy style of skipping backgrounds and screentones in popular manga. One Piece, Bleach and Naruto all took after his example.

>>151289556
>This is literally what we've been saying this entire time
>You don't need a damn bit of energy to use the Spirit Bomb.
>Being out of energy doesn't mean shit with a Spirit Bomb

Get the fuck out of here.

>>151289600
I'm sorry, but even their decisions in the story
were absolute shit. Like GT, concepts were nice, executions were shit.

>>151289582
You mean it had shit animation for most of its episodes and pretty good for major scenes.

>>151289615
kek'd.

>>151289646
>I said that you need energy in order to even use the fucking move.
>b-but I was always arguing that you need energy to push the Spirit Bomb

Dribbling autist, get BTFO already.

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>>151289616
The majority of weekly series aren't over 500 chapters long.

Toriyama's art is great because of the simplicity of the artstyle allowing for great fluidity between the transition from panel to panel, the dynamism and perspective applied to each fight scene and the impact lines that allowed us to see the force behind each blow. He was a master of choreography, not of detailed artwork.

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>>151288774
>Fuuuuck this is le too much, this bad animation is out of control xDDD

>>151289591
I've seen panels of the manga and I'd have to agree. People complain about "tracing" obviously don't know what tracing is.

>>151289616
Oda doesn't really skip backgrounds, and to be fair neither did Kishimoto and Kubo early on.

>>151288926
Yeah, that is pretty stupid. I wish Evil Boo got more screentime than what he got.

>>151289754
>The majority of weekly series aren't over 500 chapters long.
So? Manga artists up until the 90s generally had 2 to 3 ongoing weekly series if they were prolific and never stopped creating series. There were also quite a few that contained many volumes.

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>>151289209
Stop quoting so many posts at once.

>Goku and Vegeta are so OP, only literal gods, copies of themselves, characters with the OP power to control space and time, and divine angels can give them a challenge.
>Meanwhile, barring Buu, who was the last villain of Z, all the other non-fusion Z Warriors are below Cell.
Most of the Z Warriors aren't even SS2 Gohan tier, a power level that's already outdated in Super. Yet, Toriyama will introduce random new transformations for the Saiyans any chance he gets that can compete with literal gods, regardless how it contrived and nonsensical all of it is

>>151284568
>What gets released isn't where Toyo's at. Toyo is ahead of the anime, but the publication of the manga will stay behind.
That's a pretty stupid way to release a manga.

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Post your favorite panels from the franchise.

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>>151289852
>So? Manga artists up until the 90s generally had 2 to 3 ongoing weekly series if they were prolific and never stopped creating series. There were also quite a few that contained many volumes.
I don't see your point, anon. We all know that Toriyama is the laziest man alive. He literally said that Super Saiyan had blonde hair because he didn't want to ink in Goku's hair all the time.

Doesn't mean that he can't be a great artist when he wants to. Choreography, character design (well, with aliens and robots), face expressions, you name it. Nigga was even a master at shading even if he didn't use screentones.

>>151289742
Obviously pushing the Genki Dama is part of using the move, and you need Ki for that as was shown during the fight with Kid Buu.

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>>151289976
You posted it.

Fucking cunt, why did you have do it.

Well, here's second best.

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>new DBS ending song is An Evil Angel and Righteous Devil

it all makes sense now

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>>151286867

To be fair, Goku didn't know Vegeta could reach SSJ2 and was surprised at that fact. Showing him the SSJ3 form would have destroyed the manlet's pride.

>>151289976
Still mad because they ruined it in the anime

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>>151290128
RoF remake kind of fixed it up a bit.

>>151290114
This. Vegeta would have exploded from manlet rage rather than sacrificing himself.

>>151290039
>Damage Control: The Post

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>>151289988
>We all know that Toriyama is the laziest man alive.
Then stop trying to defend him.
>Choreography
Mediocre
>character design
>face expressions
Good morning, Chrono
>master at shading
Don't even try.

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>>151290128
They were pretty faithful in the Goku vs Freeza fight from the RoF Trunks Edition movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N35NrEPdOg

>>151290128
Oh come on don't be a whiny piece of shit

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>>151289976
Every panel with Namek arc Goku is a good panel

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>>151290212
>Then stop trying to defend him.
No.
>Mediocre
Okay anon, go back to your Jojo threads or what have you.
>Good morning, Chrono
I clearly said character designs when it comes to alien and robots to avoid the same-face argument you just made. And Toriyama is literally fantastic at character expressions, I have no idea what you're smoking.

>Don't even try.
This is how you spot someone who has no idea about art, kids.

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>>151290210
Fuck off. Here's more evidence that you can't use Genki Dama if you're completely out of energy.

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>>151289976
>After that Goku changed even further, becoming a Super Saiyan. How did you come up with that design?
>I gave him blonde hair so that it wouldn’t be as much work for my assistant. He spent a lot of time blacking in Goku’s hair, and I had to erase over it. It was a real pain… (laughs)

>His eyes change shape as well.
>With the usual design for his eyes, it was hard to have him look off to one side. It made it hard to tell exactly where he was looking, so I wanted to give him eyes that would make this more clear. His eyes from right after he transforms for the first time and looks up at Freeza… I based those off of Bruce Lee. Since that look of his where he glares right at you is paralyzing! That’s what I wanted to do in the Freeza arc… Once Goku gave that look, as far as I was concerned the story arc was over. I was like, “They have to start fighting now? What a pain!” My goal was just to get to that look. But when it actually came time to draw it, it turned out a bit different than how I had imagined it. I still thought Bruce Lee looked a lot cooler. (laughs)

>>151290420
>I...don't have the strenght...

What Goku didn't have were unbroken bones at that point.

>>151290420
>more damage control
He doesn't have the strength to fucking move. It's been clearly shown that you need your hands in an upraised position to form the thing, Goku literally had to sit and let Frieza beat his shit in because he had to keep his arms up. Stop being willfully retarded and just admit that you are wrong and are just trying to save face.

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>>151290341
Fuck I love that page

Does someone have that picture of the new tournament line up for the next arc?

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>>151290623
Here's the counterpart.

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>>151289976
>>151290353

>>151290679
I don't.

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>>151290577
>It's been clearly shown that you need your hands in an upraised position to form the thing
It's also clearly been shown that you need ki to push the thing against the enemy, but keep ignoring the entire fucking buu arc and the point of the wish to restore Goku's energy, faggot.

>>151284778
That doesn't mean that art is actually in the manga.
And even if it WAS, it just means he was asked to draw that specific part ahead of time.

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>>151290683
The whole Goku vs Freeza fight was god tier

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>>151289976
1/2

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>>151290874
1/2

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>>151290850
Agreed, though my personal favorite in the manga is Goku vs Piccolo due to the sheer brutality of it.

>>151290784
>moving the goalposts again
Your original argument was that you need energy to actually form the Spirit Bomb, you crusty retard. Stop trying to damage control like a mad cunt and admit your folly.

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>>151290922
Agreed, anon.

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>>151289976
Toyotaro will never have such memorable panels/battle sequences like Toriyama.

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>>151290922
Agreed, that shit was brutal

>>151289125
The problem is that the people who are into DB care. And they know that DB has been getting roasted across the net for being utterly embarassing shit.
There is pulled out of their ass 100k budget 12 cour trash that even the animators know is shit that is better choreographed and thought out then this.
I'm more excited for an ep of beyblade burst then I am for this shit.

>>151290956
>Your original argument was that you need energy to actually form the Spirit Bomb,

No you faggot, my original argument was that Kid Buu could only temporarily stop the Genki Dama because Goku didn't have enough energy to push it. And that obviously he couldn't resist the power of the move itself because he was fucking disintegrated by it. You then replied by saying that "being out of energy doesn't mean shit with a Spirit Bomb", even though it obviously does if you want to push the thing against an enemy.

>>151291200
>he couldn't resist the power of the move itself
>even though he was stopping it and actively pushing it back
Why are you so fucking stupid? Goddamn. I really hope you're just successfully trolling me.

>>151291183
Yeah, that is a problem for you and me, but unfortunately not for the general pleb who still eats this shit up. And also not for Toei who's getting their money regardless.

Do yourself a favor and read the manga instead. Even though the art isn't as good as Toriyama's, it still looks way better than that abomination of an anime.

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>>151291079
Truth. I honestly wouldn't be able to remember any of Toyotaro's fights, if they weren't posted here all the time (and most of them are just homages to Toriyama's work).

Here's another personal favorite page from a fight I actually don't care much about.

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what the dickshit is this autism. why is there always some fucking retarded argument happening in this godforsaken threads

>>151289907
Yeah.

Narrator:This is the SUPER DRAGON BALL! A dragon ball that is a large as an entire world. One that is spread throughout the multiverse and has power that is stated to be limitless even by the gods themselves.
The great dragon is thought to be a being of power that dwarfs even the child omnigod Zeno himself.

Audience: HOLY SHIT! WHO CREATED THEM! IS PICCOLO GOING TO GET A DRAGON GOD POWER UP! ARE WE GOING TO SEE DRAGON GODS FIGHTING!?

Narrator: No. Here is the only other interesting character being made into a shitty less interesting knock off of frieza.

Audience: Can we at least see Piccolo getting a power up?

Narrator:No, here are MORE SAIYANS!!!


Audience: Fuck this. I'm out.

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what if the other universes are other works of Toriyama instead of more aliens?

>>151290114
He couldn't go SSJ2. That's why he let himself be taken over by Babidi's magic.

>>151288977
>Can someone explain to me why the choreography is so fucking shit for most of these episodes? I'm
no source material to replicate.

>>151291401
fuck off retard

>>151291303
>even though he was stopping it and actively pushing it back
Yeah, and he was only able to do that because Goku didn't have the energy to push it. The power of the genki dama itself was obviously enough to destroy Buu, because that's exactly what eventually fucking happened.

>>151291319
Dude, the general pleb does not give a fuck about DBZ. And since they don't care about DBZ a horribly cheaply animated and utterly fucking retarded anime set in DB is damned to failure.

Toei is banking nostalgia bucks with this one. The problem is that the people who were into it are not coming back for this cheaply and poorly done and quite frankly INSULTING cash in.

When Super hits the air on Toonami next year. DB is going to become an embarassing laughing stock. There will be fucking articles posted by bored bloggers and people looking for hits across the net that will make this a topic of discussion for YEARS.
DB will receive a public black eye that will basically destroy the IP.

>>151291386
>Narrator: No. Here is the only other interesting character being made into a shitty less interesting knock off of frieza.
Why the hell did Super make Frost evil? The manga only depicts Frost as a cheater in fights. And even then it's completely understandable because Frost hates fighting and would use any method to end them as soon as possible. He was fully aware that he was weak compared to the Saiyans that have godly ki, but he still fought Vegeta without the poison.

>>151291594
lol k anon, chill

DBS is doing fine. Fine is an understatement, it's consistently in the top 10 and it's beating One Piece in terms of merchandise sales.

It's a show for little kids and previous fans and little kids and previous fans are buying it all up.

Nothing will "destroy" Dragon Ball, lol.

>>151291683
For the same reason he was defeated by Vegeta instead of Piccolo.
They needed yet another fucking "Vegeta beats up frieza" fight.
And we've seen that shit in some form almost 4 times now.

Him even cheating is just lame as fuck too. They should have just stuck to heroic freiza and been done with it.

is this /pol/

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>>151291594
Shueisha already publicly addressed quality control for the anime. That's why we're seeing more emphasis on the manga.

>>151291743
>it's consistently in the top 10 and it's beating One Piece in terms of merchandise sales.

Think the merch is going to keep selling once it gets dubbed?

Oh and sauce. I'm genuinely curious.

>>151284568
>Toyo is ahead of the manga, he's sending chapters directly to Toei, and they base the anime off of those.
Toyotarou never said that. OP is a faggot as usual.

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>>151291849
If anything, merch sales should increase considering it's getting more exposure outside of Japan that way. Normies don't really like to watch subbed anime.

Ratings:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30872

Pic related is merchandise sales of Namco Bandai. Rest of the graphs found here:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32665

>>151291591
Keep movin' dem goalposts, faganon.

>>151291849
Think the merch is going to keep selling once it gets dubbed?
Probably. Most of the people who will watch the dub are still most likely going to be plebs who eat that shit up because they can't see how bad it is through their nostalgia glasses.

>>151292029
Actually I'm positive the people who watch the dub will hate it because it's not all action all the time.

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>>151292029
Dude, the people that are watching and shitting on it NOW are the nostalgia goggled plebs you're talking about.

Nothing about the new series has anything for the shounen demo and has fucking NOTHING for the nostalgia fags. It's such indefensible trash that it will actually HURT sales.

>>151288899
All Toyotaro said was that he'll be relaying information to them.

>What is your relationship with the Dragon Ball Super anime?

At this point, I'm not very involved with it. I think going forward, I'll be more involved, but at this point in time, I actually receive more information from the anime team than I give to them. The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. Regardless, we'll continue to support one another as we go forward.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>>151292142
Stop this meme.

Super is boosting sales tremendously. >>151291994

You're entitled not to like it, I don't give a shit. But don't come here with bullshit saying it's hurting sales just because it's not the way you want it when it's doing the exact opposite.

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This is SSJ2 not SSJ1.
His hair and sparks make it definitively SSJ2.
My guess he flaunted the SSJ2 form but as the fight progressed he reverted/powered down into a mere SSJ1 and then also lost his sparks accordingly.

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>>151291594
Reminder that the general pleb is mostly on reddit, where they hail Super as being better than DBZ, for some fucking reason

>people still think its Toei's fault for Super looking like shit
Fuji TV green-lit the production of Super 3 months before airing because they noticed that there was still a lot of people interested in DB thanks to the BoG and RoF movies. Now there was literally 0 chance that the show is going to be good looking when you know that the usual 1 cour anime have its production started 6 months before airing and here we're talking about a series that will have 100 episodes at least.
Sure you can blame Yamamuro for giving those crazy detailed character sheets to animatiors when he knew the schedule would be tight as fuck and the art departement for the shitty looking ki blasts.

>>151291984
Yes he did idiot.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>What is your relationship with the Dragon Ball Super anime?
At this point, I'm not very involved with it. I think going forward, I'll be more involved, but at this point in time, I actually receive more information from the anime team than I give to them. The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. Regardless, we'll continue to support one another as we go forward.

Not to mention the trailer was nothing but manga scans.

>future Android 8 appeared in Super
Why did i learn about this?

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Whatever faggot, you're totally right, what was I thinking? The spirit bomb was obviously not strong enough to kill buu. That's why he survived the move, right?

>>151286445
>all that fucking quality in those panels

toriyama gave up much earlier

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>>151292647
technically he didn't specifically state that he is sending them scans of his panels, but that's what we're assuming after the big Universal Survival arc reveal.

>>151292645
It might be a combination of these factors but Toei is not free from blame. After all, they should've had more time for the BDs but they still look like shit.

>>151292731
He said he'll be sending them information in the future
That means for the Black arc, he was getting info and art from the anime team, which is why the no ningens house looks the same, as well as the area where Black is fighting Vegeta.
The dynamic is really a back and forth thing, whoever is further ahead handles the information

I'm just wondering why they decided he should be ahead again

>>151292647
No, he didn't retard. Informations != a whole manga chapter.

>>151292805
Christ you're an idiot. Scans are information. He's sending the outline and how things are supposed to look, as well as some dialogue, as shown in the goddamn trailer
You're just sticking to OP using one word wrong and going "n-n-no you're making things up!"

>>151284698
>Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu
kek

>>151292847
as long as we're all clear OP did use poor language.

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