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De-aging confirmed next episode. Are you ready?

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>>151276143
Well thanks for the spoiler, asshat.
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>>151276143
Well at least we get an explanation.

You probably shouldn't have started a thread with that and should have probably spoilered it when you posted it though.
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I lost hope with this episode
Really dpn't care, both Papika and Cocona are dull

I can't believe Yayaka is the character with the best arc and motivation
And I'm saying that as someone that didn't like her character and the shitty Yayakafags in these threads. Forgive me, I didn't know it would be this awful.
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>>151276697
This episode was great. Had some much fun and cool stuff and some great emotional and relationship progress for Cocona too.
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Fuck you OP
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>>151276697
Don't blame Yayakafags, blame the rest of the cast for not even trying.
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>>151276743
They did nothing this episode
Cocona stilll needs handholding to make the simplest decisions
Papika got mind fucked and then says she loved Cocona from the moment she was born (instant killer)
The henshin wasn't earned

Zero progress for both of them
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>>151276920
>They did nothing this episode
You sound pretty delusional to me. Sorry if you favourite ship didn't work out.
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>>151276697
It's not your fault the director couldn't even make the supposedly main characters worth jack shit.
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I can't wait for next week but I don't want the ride to be over
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>>151276979
>>151276842
>responding to yourself.
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>>151276612
It's from the PV, how is that a spoiler?
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>>151276974
Not even shipping anymore. I wanted to see them grow as characters. They didn't, Yayaka did.
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Will it explain why the KKK just let Papi go after capturing her in EP1?
Why didn't Grandma Bot tell Cocona to stay away from Papika?
What about the Corpse that was a bust?
How was there an Iro Gate if she was never in the Elpis and why was she painting Pure Illusion, actually: What was the point of that Character at all?
What was the point of the Brown Haired Girl? She did nothing.
Why did Mimi let Yaya Henshin in the first place?
What was Salts plan in going full Gendo on Cocona?
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>>151276143
Episode was good, the one thing I didn't like was that good mimi was the catalyst instead of Cocona's own personal growth.

The whole "I loved you ever since you were born" was a bit of a downer too.
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Can we all agree now that this anime is a piece of shit?
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>>151277030
>they didn't
wrong. watch the series again
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>>151277057
>the KKK just let Papi go after capturing her in EP1?
So that they could track her and Coconuts as they ran around gathering shards, that was literally explicitly explained
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>>151277030
They grew plenty as characters. Cocona has clearly moved forward with her life from being anxious and reserved.
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https://twitter.com/y50rashi/status/811964041086136321
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Finally!

>>>/wsg/1457417
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482416904634.webm
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>Het pair is going to happen while the yuri pair is going down in flames
GET FLAPPED
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>>151277173
I love how we joked about Salt and Sayuri getting together like 5 weeks ago and now suddenly the director has decided it's important enough to steal screentime away from Cocona/Papika/Mimi resolving the show's actual plot.
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>>151276143
Going by the shadows, Papika is first thrown into prison, then she de-ages. Looks like it happens in a PI.
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>>151277117
translation?
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Loving all this bait every week on airing day.
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>>151277220
No amount of screen time will salvage Cocona/Papika/Mimi. Yayaka is truly the only redeemable thing at this point.
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This is the first week where I'm not even excited for next week. I just don't even care anymore. The show has gotten completely hijacked by PLOT and forgotten what made it good.
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>>151277173
PV clearly shows that Salt won't last for long
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This episode was a mess.
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>>151276920
Cocona needs ENCOURAGEMENT not handholding. Feeling like she has no agency then realizing how lucky she is to have even a little in comparison to what her mother was given is like the crux of her whole character. Fuck right off.

Jesus you pseudo critics are retards.
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>>151277030
How come
>it was originally just a mission, but over time I grew to really like her, please forgive me Cocona, I want to be your friend
counts as growth, but
>I can't make any decisions -> I just need a little bit of courage and not be afraid to fail
doesn't? Seems like a weird double standard.
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>Making a side character infinitely better and more compelling than your two protagonists
What is 3Hz's endgame?
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What if Flip flappers had been directed by Rie Matsumoto. How good could it have been /a/
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>>151277295
I wish I could not care right about now.

>Couldn't fall asleep yesterday because hype
>Won't be able to fall asleep tonight because so mad
Fuck my life.
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>>151277355
This. I really feel like all the shitposters every week shitting on each episode don't actually understand anything about the characters. There are people actually complaining Mimi was defeated when we know for a fact she wasn't.

That and cancerous shipping/anti-shipping shitposts. Fuck off.
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>>151277403
>>151277426
>IP count diodn't go up at all
You really are samefagging this hard. Pathetic.
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Some pros and cons for episode 12 from me, for reference, I actually really liked episodes 10 and 11, a lot.

Episode Pros:

>Bush Rush is fun.
>Yayaka Henshin
>Bu-chan power up
>Salt being a badass
>That tense as fuck 10 seconds where Mimi rewrote Papika's memories

Episode Cons:
>"I have loved you since you were born!"
>Animation quality is getting more sporadic. Some clips are solid as fuck others are noticeably weaker
>Good Mimi Deus Ex Machina save. I actually wouldn't mind this at all if we had a couple more episodes to stew over Cocona and Papika mindbreaks, and some Cocona personal development and introspection that triggers the Good Mimi. But as it is it feels forced to make the ending fit within the next episode. Feels like they had to make the plot move faster than it was designed to be, which is unfortunate, because I feel like this good have been a really powerful moment.
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>>151277382
Apparently I'm in the minority when I thought this episode was subpar, but that the Yaya/Coco development was actually alright.
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I just want Salt to be happy.
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>>151277403
>Flip Flappers 1.1 You Can (Not) Direct Drive
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>>151277466
Salt doesn't deserve happiness.

Completely serious.
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>>151277458
>Apparently I'm in the minority when I thought this episode was subpar
Don't think so, same here.
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>>151277493
2
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>>151277505
Why not?
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>>151277539
3
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>>151277542
>they animate the OP every week from scratch

Now that's dedication
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>>151277577
Is Uexkull saving Yayaka?
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>>151277577
>Best boy and best girl team up
There might actually be something salvageable here.
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>>151277439
>implying
Don't take your frustration out on me anon, I'm just stating the facts.
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>>151277568
Terrible father. Not even that good of a person. If anything, he should be allowed to find redemption moments before he dies.
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How does Yayakas weapon work?
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>>151277577
>cocona sweetie, why does your bunny look like your father when it enters Pure Illusion?
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If this would've just been PapiCoco going on a new Adventure every Episode playing out like a short story with new creative worlds while the Characters develop over the course of the Series I would've liked it a lot more.
The last 3 Episodes really made me realize how much I liked 1-5 and how much I dislike this "conclusion".
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I've been feeling sluggish after the last couple airing days. The thought of having to wait another week to see if FliFla can pull itself together is maddening.
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>>151277686
The cables are explosive and detonate when she strums them.
For some reason this doesn't destroy the cables and she can re-use them to explode things seemingly without limit.

They also have a rocket-propelled tip with a sharp point so they can be launched considerable distance, be guided after launching and puncture their target to anchor on.
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A FIST BUMP ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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So Papika was imprisoned in that tree prison until GoodMimi released her right?
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>Senpai will never show up again
This is the biggest crime.
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>>151277080
Because her mother told her to. How can anyone justify this?

No, really. Why did she need another approval, another push, to do the most basic thing, after seeing her friends getting assblasted?
BadMimi is right for being overprotective of her. I think the scene could've been better if Cocona made that decision on her own, proving BadMimi she's able to stand on her own, making GoodMimi proud of her girl for doing so. The conversation didn't need to happen, Mimi could've been simply smiling in the distance the moment Cocona made her choice.
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>>151277577
I mean, surely this scene wasn't for no reason.
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>>151277766
She met Cocona and they Flip Flapped the fuck out of there
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>>151277766
I think the prevailing theory is that Papika and Cocona reached stable impedance while in Mimi's PI, and their amorphous stones (Papi's in her anklet, Cocona's in her thigh) reacted and they portal'd out by accident.
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>>151277784
>told her to
Are you retarded? She encouraged her to make the choice she knew she wanted to and helped her to find the courage she has been struggling to gather for the entire series. Perfect resolution considering it was her real mother who she wanted to see and speak to so badly. Absolutely perfect that it was her advice and guidance that helped her to move forward in her life. The fact that you don't see that shows how shallow you are.
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>>151277766
We shakespeare now? Surely this must be a reference to the Tempest
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While rewatching the episode I realized I forgot a stitch earlier.
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>flip flap creators unironically believe they made a show good enough to justify a bad end
The only reason people watch this show is for Papika and Cocona, and they're gonna fuck it
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>>151277907
I love those reverse Papika colors.
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>>151277449
I agree with this almost 100%.

2 small changes would have made this episode really good for me- replace "I have loved you since you were born" with something else, and replace the Deus Ex Machina with something more personal.
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>>151277775
Truly.

TRULY.
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>>151277766
It looks like adult Papikana was locked in the PI dicktree, and then de-aged by Mimi
After being de-aged, she remained trapped in the dicktree and re-aged to the point of being the Papika we know, and then somehow found herself freed/escaped.

The preview has shots of 14-year-old (looking) Papika in the dicktree, so she must have spent a very long time in there.

Speculah time:
Mimi threw Papika in the dicktree and reverted her to Cocona's age
Mimi stayed with Cocona in PI with Papika abandoned in the dicktree for years
Young Cocona discovered young Papika in the dicktree and resolved to free her
The two of them escaped PI together, resulting in both of them losing their memories and returning to the real world
KKK caught Cocona while Flip Flap found Papika, and the two groups raised their respective child of PI into the 14 year old girls we know.
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>>151277938
>Picked up the show for lesbians
>Stayed for wonderful episodic stories
>Endured the godawful last third because based Yayaka
I guess I can at least say it was quite the ride.
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>>151277845
Again, having her make that choice on her own would be better for Mimi and Cocona. It would destroy EvilMimi reason to exist.

I understand what you're saying but Mimi wasn't part of Cocona's life for a very long time, there's a reason she hasn't fucked off for good yet
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What would Salt do when got all the amorphous? What was he planning to do? Free Mimi and try to save her good side?
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>>151277493
>>151277539
>>151277577
You can probably the whole storyboard for episode 13 if you try hard enough.
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>>151277987
His goal was probably to try and revive the good Mimi in a way that didn't involve using her daughter as a vessel.
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>>151277775
She really was Studio Pablo's self-insert all along.
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3Hz is so out of money
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>>151277775
they confirmed this weeks ago.
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>>151277984
She was literally her entire motivation for going along with the adventures and Pure Illusions from the moment she heard it was a wish. Did you ever think the reason Cocona might have lacked direction and courage was because she didn't have her family to give her guidance and encouragement? Her mother didn't make her do anything. She gave her encouragement that she needed to do it herself.
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>>151278035
You didn't buy the BDs
Why didn't you buy the BDs?
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What if the main conflict really is already over and Episode 13 is just a 20-minute epilogue?
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>>151278049
/a/ is so out of money
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>>151278028
Broken by the director and discarded?
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At least Yayaka was a badass.
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>>151278049
If the ending is as shitty as the plot episodes, the director isn't even getting my rare Uexkull.
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>>151278035
They aren't even part of the production comittee.
They didn't spend single cent of their own capital.
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I really don't think Cocona's development is at all problematic, and if anyone is in fact bothered by it, it's really the least of the show's problems.
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>>151278035
This is not how it works, though. 3Hz didn't pay for this anime. They might have misused their budget, there could be all kinds of stuff happening in the background that result in a poorer drawn episode.
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At least tanu is amazing as always
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>>151277577
Top is a storyboard panel
Bottom is a keyframe

They included a couple random keyframes in the preview. That's super alarming.
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>>151278105
10 and 11 are good. Most of the 12 is also tolerable, it is its end that was shit.
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Regardless of the money situation someone fucked up, what was that random panning and fading when Nyunyu went out into the snow? Are they purposefully trying to go for trainwreck appeal?
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>>151277995
That's what I have pretty much been doing. I'm putting together frames that seem like they are connected and when most of them have been sorted I'm planning to try and put them in order.
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>>151278115
They're an animation studio, anon. They don't have their own capital.
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And another.
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>>151278177
Sayuri is my girlfriend
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>>151278127
Why would that be alarming?
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2ch comments

>Wonderful yuri wedding, double wedding dress was justice.
>White dresses and fist bump, the last scene was infact a marriage ceremony.
>Looked like a wedding after the final transformation.
>Reminds me of Saint Seya.
>Glad to see the ED again.
>I want to drink Papika's drool directly.
>Yayaka is cute. Best girl.
>Yayaka looked cool after transformation.
>Yayaka Flip Flapping happening was enough to make episode 12 great alone but the rest of it was great too.
>Because Yayaka shouted Flip Flapping! I was satisfied.
>I think Yayaka's transformation design is the best.
>Even when she transforms Yayaka is cute and cool.
>Yayaka is cool.
>NyuNyu's stock is steadily rising, hopefully Yayaka's does not fall.
>Would be nice if the twins could stay relevant.
>Does Cocona know Papika is a hag the same age as her mother?
>NyuNyu sang Funiculi such small references are the attraction of this anime.
>Uexkull final boss.
>If Salt just used a condom this never would have happened.
>Even though Bu-Chan transformed he still got defeated. Such terrible luck he has.
>The twins changed their expressions for the first time and defied orders.
>I wonder if Sayuri has fallen in love with Salt too?
>Sayuri was cute in her winter outfit.
>So Cocona and Papika had met when she was little.
>Yayaka was actually the second childhood friend.
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>>151278177
It's not even a portative portal to PI, it's just A FLOATING PLATFORM
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>>151278164
Awesome. Good luck, anon
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>>151278169
Studios that are part of the production comittee actually do have some capital
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>>151277493
Is that Mimi or Sayuri?
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>>151278073
episode 13 is going to wrap up the last of the backstory, deal with pure illusion, and capstone the series.

We gonna find out about Papika de-aging, we gonna see Salt use the machine, we gonna reseal the barrier between PI and the real world, and the last bit of ambiguity between Papika and Cocona's relationship will be shattered, one way or the other, either het or yuri will be confirmed.

Also, I like this:>>151278044 explanation, but I do feel that even with that explanation, it felt rushed- like, Papika mind rape undone in the very next scene? it was too quick for the mind rape shit to even settle in.
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>>151278177
>people still doubt that the Ep 2 dress came from Sayuri
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>>151278220
I still think you make up this
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>>151278220
>>I want to drink Papika's drool directly.
Classy Japanese anons. I do too.
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>>151278220
>Wonderful yuri wedding
Confirmed.
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>>151278220
>If Salt just used a condom this never would have happened.
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>>151277907
Thanks anon
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>>151278212
Did she do anything integral to the plot yet?
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>>151278244
Mimi.
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>>151278220
>no comments on that mimi-ex-machina
Elevens truly have shit taste
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>>151278216
Considering that each was on-screen for a single frame, there'd have been no reason to have 3 keyframes and 117 storyboard panels unless they either didn't have enough stoyboard panels to fill it completely (storyboards unfinished) or they intended to have as many keyframes as possible in the pv and that was all they could muster.

Either way it's a bad sign.
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>>151278220
>All this Yayaka love
She may have lost the Coconabowl to a girl who got family zoned but she won our hearts.
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YAYAKA KAKKOII
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>>151278044
Papika and Yayaka didn't have parents either
Cocona made the choice to go with Papika t o PI because she liked her
Cocona was fighting because she wanted to meet her parents, another choice no one told her to make

I don't think that encouragement scene was necessary, or at least, I don't think it was handled well. Mimi pushing her AFTER she made a choice would've been better. I know you disagree, we just have different opinions.
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>>151278322
She did something integral to my dick
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>>151278273
I literally had to google Funiculi to find out what the fuck it was.
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Could a critic give a criticism of the episode that isn't based on a misunderstanding, shipper rage or nothing?

All last week everyone wanted confession, Yayaka henshin, PI boss rush, explanations for how Papika de-aged, Salt doing something, and Bust-chan explanation. All but the last one has happened or is confirmed to happen. Cocona also finished her character arc by accepting herself and making her own wishes come true. Papika chose to be Cocona's protector and enabler over anything else. Yayaka grew too.

So what is actually bad about this episode?

>>151278220
I cannot believe the dumbfuck nips appreciated this episode more than /a/. They actually are correct.
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>>151278245
The mind rape wasn't supposed to be some big important plot point, it was just another one of Mimi's attacks to prevent them from getting through to Cocona.
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>>151278220
>all that praise for Yayaka
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>>151278340
Will they get to henshin?
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>>151278220
>>If Salt just used a condom this never would have happened.
Salt, why didn't you?
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>>151278365
The whole dark mimi being the bad guy is terrible.
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>>151278220
>If Salt just used a condom this never would have happened.
But Cocona wouldn't exist either, so go fuck yourself you slant-eyed faggot.
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>>151278366
yeah, but there was no time for it to sink in. Like there should have at least been a yayaka fight between the mind rape and the reversal.

Cocona putting in a little more initiative into her development would have gone a long way as well.
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>>151278365
Why do people still want an explanation on the dead girl in the first episode? Episode 10 told us how it works, when someone tries to go to PI with one who's able to and their impedance is too high, they die. It could already be inferred in episode 1 itself when Papika was surprised that Cocona was still alive. We don't need to know who that girl was specifically.
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>>151278346
But she had even less development than Iro and that character was dumpstered.
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>>151278220
>NyuNyu sang Funiculi such small references are the attraction of this anime.

That is a nice spot that is what her and Bu-Chan are doing at 13:05 in the episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW0W7j04iRQ
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>>151278365
The episode itself was poorly paced, with important sequences happening in rapid-fire while unimportant ones dragged their feet.

The quality was oddly inconsistent, to the point of being jarring at times. It was clear that the episode had been rushed and that the struggled to meet the production deadline, and this clearly affected the way the episode was cut and edited. It had a notable impact on the presentation

There's also the issue that the Papika/Cocona reunion was almost nothing, and that Cocona's primary issue was solved by good Mimi magically appearing and telling her the words she needed to hear. The 180 happened so fast it gave me whiplash.

The episode contained the things I wanted to see, but didn't present them as well as I wanted them to be presented. Screentime was distributed awkwardly and pacing was all over the place, while the actual speed and style of cuts were equally eclectic. Many of these issues were present in episode 11, but have each and all been exacerbated here, which naturally provokes misgivings about the forthcoming conclusion.
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>next episode titled pure audio
>pv shows only drawings

I'm getting an Evangelion PTSD here
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>>151278444
But the idea of dark personalities being unleashed by DPI has been central to the drama the entire second half of the season. Since Mimi is so central to the plot I think her dark side is a fitting antagonist.
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Couldn't they, you know, take a delay? A lot of shows do it nowadays
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>>151278365
>two mimis
>good mimi solving both Cocona's and Papika's problems instead of them overcoming it through character development
>that done in an extremely rushed way
>bad mimi is "muh Cocona", which stops being interesting very fast
>all the drama-related speeches (of Cocona not needing to make the decisions and so on) are so predictable it's a chore to listen to them
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>>151278498
>there was literally a scene of Iroha dumping her paintings to symbolize her lapse into irrelevance

Fuck this show
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One for this episode yet?
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I'm so glad best girl got to make a cameo
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>>151278604
>give yourself more work over the holidays
>be lazy and pretend your being deep and artistic
Pick 1
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>>151278539
Well said. Here's hoping they make a better effort with 13.
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>>151278365
>I cannot believe the dumbfuck nips appreciated this episode more than /a/. They actually are correct.

Freakin' Twitter loved it
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>>151278365
>misunderstanding, shipper rage or nothing?
Read the thread? I feel like people just ignore opinions they don't like and label them as stupid. But some anons bring out valid, non-bait points. This episode was a rushed mess, and the conclusion to this arc, at the moment is simply unsatisfying.
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GO WATCH FLIP FLAPPERS
At the very beginning, /a/ was the only one to hate. Now it's the opposite?
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>>151278609
>good mimi solving both Cocona's and Papika's problems instead of them overcoming it through character development
That's not what happened you fucking retard
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>>151278639
best girl is toyosaki aki as per usual
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>>151278747
>/a/ is one person
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>>151278220
>NyuNyu sang Funiculi
i fucking knew it
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Why is she blushing?
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I dont want this show to end....
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>>151278365
>I cannot believe the dumbfuck nips appreciated this episode more than /a/. They actually are correct.

They don't lose their shit over "yuribait" and shipping in their threads and a fair few of them seem to actually prefer the direction the story took recently and said it probably would have been more successful if they had changed over earlier.
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>>151278823
It's cold outside.
Your cheeks flush in a chill breeze, have you never been outside in winter before?
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>>151278823
She wants the salt shaker.
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>>151278855
>have you never been outside
N-not really.
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>>151278846
>they don't lose their shit over "yuribait"
>>151278220
>Wonderful yuri wedding, double wedding dress was justice.
>White dresses and fist bump, the last scene was infact a marriage ceremony.
>Looked like a wedding after the final transformation.
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>>151278823
She's very close to Salt.
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>>151278539
There's also the issue that the Papika/Cocona reunion was almost nothing, and that Cocona's primary issue was solved by good Mimi magically appearing and telling her the words she needed to hear. The 180 happened so fast it gave me whiplash.
>>151278609
>good mimi solving both Cocona's and Papika's problems instead of them overcoming it through character development

Mimi just gave Cocona encouragement to solve everything herself. It was their love for each other that overpowered evil Mimi's mindrape. This is what I mean about misunderstanding, there was no Mimi ex machina, it was all about Cocona and Papika's feelings.

>>151278721
Explain what was rushed other than the animation quality drop.
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>>151277964
Exceptional speculah
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>>151278811
Holy shit, seriously?
How many voices can this bitch do? I can't recognize her. With Yoko Hikasa I could tell from the second her characters say a word.
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>>151276143
it's flip flappening
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>>151278539
>The quality was oddly inconsistent, to the point of being jarring at times. It was clear that the episode had been rushed and that the struggled to meet the production deadline, and this clearly affected the way the episode was cut and edited. It had a notable impact on the presentation

Well this clearly shows you don't know anything, since Flip Flappers production wrapped up before the first episode aired, as with all Studio 3hz series.
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>>151278823
Why did she go come with him?
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>>151278884
I mean there isn't back and forth arguing in their threads or people posting about how shit the show is because their ship isn't winning or "Yayacuck" and whatever. People will literally ruin a thread here arguing over if a glance means more than just friends.
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Not enough Yayaka in this thread!
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This show is a mess but it's still fun to watch. Most anime in general seems to get messy towards the end

Is writing endings that difficult or it is just poor use of previous episodes
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>>151278946
She's looking to get on a high sodium diet
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>>151278946
It looks like she operates the ELPIS while Salt goes inside it in the next episode.
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This was really necessary.
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>>151278823
Why did Salt take her?
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>>151278964
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>>151278964
This whole sequence really blew all of my expectations away
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>>151278910
I can always tell my beloved Toyosaki when I hear her
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>>151278897
>Mimi just gave Cocona encouragement to solve everything herself. It was their love for each other that overpowered evil Mimi's mindrape. This is what I mean about misunderstanding, there was no Mimi ex machina, it was all about Cocona and Papika's feelings.
It would've been great if they spent more than 20 seconds on that whole sequence, so the viewers could actually see and appreciate their feelings.
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>>151278937
Why are you making up lies?

https://twitter.com/binobinobi/status/811604021207105536
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>>151278992
She's wearing stockings so there's nothing particularly special about that shot.
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>>151278955
I want you to pay close attention to this thread, notice that the only ones mentioning shippings are those that don't see anything wrong with this episode, assuming the shipperfags have gone mad, but no one is even talking about pairings anymore -- just he fucking rushed clusterfuck of a plot.
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>>151278966
First halves and set ups are always easier than the 2nd half and conclusion. The 2nd half is where writers and directors are really tested on their abilities.
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>>151279007
>>151279010
Perfect
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>>151278539
I wish more people could articulate themselves this well. Everyone's so quick to broadcast their opinions that they just end up spewing shit on the wall in frustration. I agree with you, but I'd like to add that I thought this episode was hilarious. Nyunyu's continued uselessness, Bu-chan's and Yayaka henshins, the boss rush with Papika and Yayaka, and the twins' interactions all gave me a huge stupid grin on my face for the whole episode. Admittedly the Mimi conflict and Papika age shit is weaker but that was well within my expectations. The ability to pull of a satisfying, somewhat complicated plot is not a very common gift and I never expect anime of all things to deliver that consistently. Flip Flappers will no doubt remain my favorite, regardless of it's hiccups and less enjoyable parts.
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>>151278985
Uh-oh
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What made Cocona forgive Papika? It can't be the effort to try and save her, she has always shown that.
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Someone is arguing Bu-chan's henshin resulting in failure is a rejection of toxic masculinity
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>>151278604
That probably wouldn't be very good for sales
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>Cockona
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>>151278966
simply put, animators are not given enough time to finish animating all the episodes, so they hit a "crunch" near the end where they have wrap shit up and put out episodes in less than half the time it takes to make them.
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I feel so empty

How is episode 13 supposed to salvage this mess?
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>>151279170
What?
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>>151278220
>>Even though Bu-Chan transformed he still got defeated. Such terrible luck he has.

Poor boo-chan will he ever win? Tragically comic.
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>>151279170
You either fuck off from tumblr or fuck off to it. Just don't do this crap here.
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Is yayaka the only worth thing in this show?
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>tfw flip flappers really flip flopped

dropping to avoid another disappointment
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>>151279170
who cares
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>>151276992
Who the hell do you think we are?
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EWWWWWWWWWW
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>>151279246
>writers thought this was romantic
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>>151279184
kiss
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>>151277686
Kunai and chain+ detonation cords
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>>151279184
by giving yayaka super henshin 2
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>>151278946
She's a helper
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>>151279037
What are you even talking about? There's always people trying to bait yurifags in these threads.
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>>151279246
I can't decide if it was this line, or Good Mimi that killed this episode to me.

There was some other fuck ups but they were all comparatively minor ones.
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>>151279246
>/a/ being disgusted at something that's considered taboo

when did you all turn into moralfags
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>>151278340
Yuyu is great, even when she's basically doing nothing.

Although once again there was a beat from Evangelion when she betrayed her boss just like Rei in EoE betrays Gendo

>>151278177
In her winter outfit I couldn't help but be reminded of Mio from K-On!, what with having the same VA
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Either I'm empty inside or I've just been watching anime way longer than the people who are freaking out right now and have reached a state of zen.

Ya'll need to calm down.
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>>151279246
Agape, not Eros.
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>>151279313
Sure but discussion in the last few hours was filled with the writer change meme and plenty of anonymous being disappointed. Almost no Yayacuck or Pedopapi or whatever the shit they usually say. Barely any pairing "talk", just sadness over the last turn of events.
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>>151279363
No

I wish to be in a constant state of worry about the finale throughout the holidays
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>Yyaka henshn
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>>151279363
You're just not a shitposter or an idiot.
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>>151279370
Oh she wants to see Cocona's eros agape alright
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>>151279363
I lost any kind of investment at an anime promising a lot and going to complete shit earlier this year. Not that I think that this is the case for Flip Flappers, I still like it just as much as I did at the start, but that mindset would definitely help the people who are disappointed right now.
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>>151279337
>the same VA
And the same bullying
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>>151279393
HAYAYAKA
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>>151279403
Really feeling that writer change
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>>151279414
It was Haifuri wasn't it.
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>>151278985
So next episode is Salt's PI?
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>>151279393
i didn't even notice her super boots had knee spikes until now
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I had a dream recently where I visited the twins at home

Their house was middway through a slope, with bamboo growing on either side. It wasn't big, a living room, a kitchen and a bedroom for the kids. Their mom was very caring, but it turned out that she was a robot similar to Cocona's Grandma and they didn't have a father. We went into their room and they played with trucks while their mom was cooking.

I just imagine this to be their backstory, makes the characters more interesting
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>>151279442
*teleports behind you*
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>>151279363
Watching it a second time now and think it's not as bad anymore. Probably I was just overhyped due to the PV. Though it still could be better. Especially pic related, not even a yurifag, but a fist bump is just strange.
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>>151279414
People saying the whole show is ruined make me think they're kind of young and immature or something.
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>>151279007
>>151279010
>Yayakamind
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>>151279451
I'm kinda embarassed to admit what it was, but oh well.

Pokémon XY&Z. The fucking league loss after three years of buildup to victory. At least it allowed me to finally drop the piece of filth that is the Pokémon anime for good.
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>>151279478
Yeah, couldn't they have at least hugged or something?

Why a goddamn fistbump?
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>>151279469
Did Yuyu fist you?
It's cute, I really like when my dreams project anime
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>>151279502
Anon...
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>>151279478
Not enough time for a frenchkiss when EvilMimi is still around.
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>>151279508
Because they just punched out a mecha, why not
They have all of next episode to be lovey
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3=5 > 4=6=7 > 1=2=8=9 > 12 > 10=11

Prove me wrong.
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>>151279540
What? Have you not seen the multiple anons who unironically answered "Pokémon" at the "What is your AOTS?" in these threads?
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>>151279540
What is it?
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>>151278220
>>Does Cocona know Papika is a hag the same age as her mother?
Is it still age-gap, when Papika's age was reversed?
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Still far away from disappointment that Zankyou no Terror was
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>>151279479
>Young immature kids on 4chan...
That could never happen anon, you have to be 18 to post here by internet law
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>>151279478
are the hearts jewels/emblems or boobwindows? the shine makes it look weird to me
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>>151279478
Because they're extremely close? If I just had a mutual confession with my girlfriend and used that love power to blow a giant robot to smithereens, I'd fistbump her too. I am completely perplexed by how people did not love this moment.
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>>151279602
It's not like Papika became any more mature as a cake.
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>>151279618
They just have shiny skin, why would there be skin-colored emblems
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What does it mean?
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>>151279363
I haven't liked a show this much in years, this is why I'm still here now, trying to laugh.

Thursday threads are usually funnier. Crap.
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>>151279577
12>11>10>9>8>7>6>5>4>3>2>1
It's pretty simple math anon
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FAST
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>>151279650
Why does she sit like that?
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>>151279632
They have never had any kind of close relationship with someone anon
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>>151278220
>>Yayaka was actually the second childhood friend
DOUBLE KEKED
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>>151279632
A hug seems more natural.
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>>151279577
3=8 > 1=2=5=9 > 10=11 > 12 > 4=6=7

QED
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Does anyone have a good picture of Nyunyu?
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>>151279689
They are in the middle of a boss fight, you don't hug during boss fights. This is simple math anon
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>>151279714
Just for you
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>>151279689
I think they should've laced their fingers together.

Deviant, I know.
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>>151279383
Plenty of people think the episode was good too. The winning opinion in the straw poll was that the direction the show has gone in has been good but it could've perhaps been better.
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>>151279671
Maybe her butt hurts
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>>151278220
>>Does Cocona know Papika is a hag the same age as her mother?
kek, I love these nips
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>>151279714
Hi
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>>151279714
no because all pictures of nyunyu have nyunyu in them
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>>151278049
The price is ridiculous and buying 7 bds for a 13 episode series is a waste of shelf space
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>>151279725
Was this character really necessary?
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>>151279714
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>>151279577
1>3=5>8>6>10>4>9>7>12=11=2
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>>151279606
ZnT was shit from the start though (literal babby shit mysteries), I pushed myself to watch it thinking it would get better but it got worse with every single episode. Anons disappointed by it have only themselves to blame.
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>>151279734
if the show was 15 episodes long instead of 13, solely that they could space stuff out just a bit more, it would have been perfect. I think most of the issues are simply due to trying to cram too much into such a small period of time.
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Hair-down green Yayaka is best Yayaka.

Also her henshin reminds me of a ballerina. I wonder if she'll take up dancing in the epilogue
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>>151276143
CRASHING THIS COMPUTER
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>>151278823
Because this isn't her first ride on the salt shaker
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>>151279577
6 > powergap > 5 > 3 > 8 > 12 > 1 > 2 > 11 > 7 >10 >4
And only the last 3 were things I wasn't completly satisfied with.
Though I still enjoyed all of them
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>>151279772
my dick says yes
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>>151279794
Her henshin reminds me of a slut, I wonder if she'll take up sucking dicks in the epilogue
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>>151279794
I don't know if you noticed but all the Henshins are ballet inspired, particularly the poses they do at the end.
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>>151279772
Here's a question for you anon. Did you enjoy the character? If yes, then sure she was "necessary" to you. If no, then she wasn't "necessary" to you. See how this works yet?
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>>151279714
>>151279725
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>>151279723
It's just so tame compared to how close they were before.
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>>151279835
Oh.
Yeah I guess that should have been obvious.
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They could have resolved this in two episodes instead of four. Maybe three if you include one that's a backstory.

Ideally you could have had a Pure Illusion used as the narrative vehicle for Papika's backstory, kind of like Episode 6.
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>>151279469
>Dream
Anon they were in your PI stealing fragments

They might have subtly changed you and you don't even know it
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>>151279794
No this is the best Yayaka.
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Is Cocona taller than Mimi? She appears to be really small, not as mature as in the flashback of episode 11. I think she deaged.
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>>151279927
they're all 4 feet really

Even Salt maxes out at 5'6''
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I want to bang them both while they keep that expressionless face.
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>daidaidaikirai
This part was great. In fact, the whole conversation with Mimi was excellent. This is exactly how I wanted to see their verbal confrontation play out. You can really tell that Mimi is an angsty womanchild playing God and that Papika and her used to be really close from how they speak to one another.
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>>151279927
A lot of Japanese women are really short.
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>>151279577
3 > 6 > 5 > first half of 12 > 8 > 1 > 9 = 7 > 2 > 4 > 11 > 10 > dogshit > second half of 12
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>>151279957
So "daidaidaikirai" proves that Papika must have said "daidaidaisuki" to Mimi at some point, right? Otherwise it would just be a coincidence.
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>>151279999
Papika said the "daidaidaisuki" earlier in this episode, when confronting Mimi in the desert.
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>>151279999
Or she's been watching Cocona the entire time and has her memories.
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>>151279952
but anon, one of them is a girl
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>>151279999
Mimi knows everything
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>>151279999
No.
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>>151279927
A general equation to get the size of a girl is
Size of Father + Size of Mother / 2 -6.5cm
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>>151279952
Mimi would have this face the whole time.
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>>151279952
The twins are getting set up as Yayaka's consolation prize, provided that Papika doesn't vanish next episode.
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>>151280083
I mean Yuyu fuck
Too many repetitive names
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>>151280042
so
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>all of the phallic imagery all along was just an abstract representation of Mimi's silhouette foreshadowing Cocona's inevitable confrontation with her mother
Wow
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>>151278955
Come on man, people say Yayacuck in the name of good fun

>People will literally ruin a thread here arguing over if a glance means more than just friends.

Yurifags are not the ones who intiate this kind of discussion
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>>151280083
What face would her brother have?
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>>151280127
that's gay
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>>151280127
Wanting to have sex with a girl in 2016. Disgusting
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>>151280139
It doesn't matter who initiates it if both sides participate. Point is, shipperfags are way too high-strung in general.
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>>151280134
You'll get yourself hurt trying to analyze this show, believe me

It's all meaningless. No Freud, no Umwelt, no Jung.
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>>151280066
Fucking parenthesis
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>>151279999
Mimi lived inside Cocona for a long time
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So we can all agree that Flip Flappers is a lot worse now than it used to be some weeks ago, right?
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>>151280134
>it was her mother's dick all along
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>>151280228
No. Slight dip in quality but it's still fun.
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>>151280184
>It doesn't matter who initiates

Of course it matters
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>>151280228
I agree, I know others won't.

I just want it to end so I could get it over with.
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>>151280198
oh god it's straight left to right order
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I thought this episode was kinda a mess but Cocona saying she daidaidaisukis Papika made me well up instantly

I hate how my body so easily betrays my mind like this. I can be sat there watching something thinking "this is kinda badly put together" but some cliched pivotal moment comes with highly emotive music and I'll still get goosebumps.
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>>151280210
don't do it mang
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Is Papika a paedo?
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>>151280263
I disagree.
"He started it" is never a good excuse past 6 years old.
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>>151280311
No she's 14
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>>151280263
Nigger have you ever been to a Hibike thread? It's 24/7 shitposting from both sides.
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>>151280228
No
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I just want to say that at the end of the day that, while the last few eps have been a bit disappointing to me, I fucking love this show. While we disagree on a lot of aspects of the show, I think it's beautiful, and I only ever wanted it to succeed.

Here's hoping that it does, you colossal faggots.
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>>151279642
You're saying that as if it were a bad thing.
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>>151280322
didn't hibikek end in het
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>>151280370
It's not over
But yes
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>>151280228
I much preferred the episodic format but I don't hate what it's doing right now. I'm very happy to finally see some development between Cocona and Papika, and Mimi has been a great villain.

It's just impossible to judge a multi-episode arc on an episode-by-episode basis. I leave every week feeling like I didn't get the complete story because, of course, next week will continue it. That makes it hard to pass judgement at this stage. I felt the same way about episode 7, you couldn't really parse it as a standalone which made it difficult to really judge as a standalone. I'll have a better idea of how much I really liked the ending arc when I have the last piece of it and can see the big picture all together.
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>>151280370
Most likely.

Doesn't stop every single thread from being pure, unfiltered shipping shitposting.
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>>151280322
Hibike threads are a fucking disaster zone. Try to discuss the fucking show and they won't let you. Try to express an opinion about any aspect of the show and they purposefully misconstrue it as you belonging to the enemy side of the damned shitstorm they themselves have caused, try to get them to understand or to shut up and they just double down
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>>151280321
She's at least 35.

>>151280430
Like any KyoAni show thread.
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>>151280228
Fuck no. 9 and 11 were arguably the best episodes. This one was fun too. Worst episode was 2.
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>>151278823
its very cold
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>>151280289
That's a good thing, though.
I wish I could enjoy enjoyable things without getting caught up on nitpicks and minor details
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loved this series since the beginning but i found the two last episodes disappointing honestly.
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>>151280396
I feel like it'll hold up much better in a rewatch where there's minimal delays between each episode.
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So /a/, did you think this got better or worse once the plot kicked in? Opinions seem very divided.
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You have 10 seconds to explain to me why that hag Papika deserves to end up with Cocona more than Yayaka.
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>>151280487
>Worst episode was 2
Fight me.
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>>151280364
I didn't mean it in a bad way at all.
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even if flip flappers doesn't end in girl on girl flipping flaps that's not going to stop any doujins

i await the yayapapicoco threesome
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>>151280353
Yeah even if the story might be not satisfactory this is still better than most of the stuff this season, it's my AOTS no doubt
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>>151280546
>doujins

This will get like 5 doujins. but yeah it will be like 3 yuri 1 futa and 1 rape
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>>151280509
It does.
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>>151280487
Best episode was 8, objectively.
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>>151279791
I was saying it would be better as a 24 episode series a while back too actually. Does feel like there are a lot of good ideas that they wanted to put in but there wasn't really time for and perhaps packing that stuff in given that it's maybe too much wasn't done too well. Probably should have either simplified the story or transitioned from the more light episodes sooner assuming 13 episodes was the only option though. That said I've still greatly enjoyed the show and it's definitely one of my favourites this year. Just a bit disappointing that it could have been better. I preferred this episode to 10 and 11 though. It felt much more like flip flappers to me with the fast pace and I personally think that Cocona getting her courage and decisiveness was handled well and Yayakas transformation had emotional impact and so did Papika and Cocona's reconciliation even if that was a bit rapid.
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>>151280546
This show will get exactly five doujins
Two of which will be scanned
One of which will be translated
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Fuck this, I'm out.
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>>151280134
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>>151280513
>>151280513
http://www.strawpoll.me/11934308/
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>>151279478
Hated this fist bump, it should had been double interconnected finger locking meeting
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>>151280518
Because Papika can smell Cocona. That's how much she loves her. Can Yayaka smell Cocona? Didn't think so.
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>>151280630
What were they thinking when they put everything in the preview?
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Who wants to be this series will end without Cocona ever knowing Papika is 30~ years old
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>>151280636
>0 for new direction
wew lad
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>>151280685
I told you it would. No one will find out.
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>>151280684
What if what they're putting in the PV is all of the discarded ideas and we're getting ruse cruised like that time with salto's preview
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>>151280611
my dick is a great translator so raws are fine
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13/2 is 6.5

Flip Flappers was good for 9 episodes.

9 > 6.5, therefore Flip Flappers is a good show.

Simple right?
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>>151280685
Papika doesn't seem very good at keeping the secret. One of these days another of her "since you were born" lines will catch Cocona's attention and the cat will be out of the bag.

Also Cocona must know Papika is older because Papika told her that she was Mimi's partner and knew Mimi when Mimi was a kid.
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>>151280717
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>151280757
Maybe Cocona will just be blissfully ignorant
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>>151280685
Cocona already knows and doesn't care. She loves her all the same.
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>>151280757
By the time she figures it out it will be too late, they'll be married with two kids
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Is it just me or does Papika's henshin 2.0 look suspiciously like adult Papika?
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>>151280757
You should've noticed by now, asking questions is not Cocona's forte
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Flip Flappers is a very good material for rewatching
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>>151280684
They didn't expect us to go frame by frame and thought it would make for another great Eva reference.
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>>151280751
I believe you but i still like all the episodes.
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>>151280868
Oh the ironing
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>>151280684
They probably didn't expect some autist to screencap all 120 frames, colour invert them and compile them into a chart
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>>151280868
Fuck I forgot.
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>>151280868
Well shit.
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>>151280868
Finally this thread makes me laugh
About time
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>>151280868
c u c k e d
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Rewatch stream when?
Or did streamfag abandon the sinking ship?
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Please stop bullying Yayaka.
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>>151280973
I think he was planning for wednesday next week
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>>151280973
i'd be up for this
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Papicoco theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmX8bruEfiw
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>>151280973
Wednesday at 8.
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>>151280868
You can't make this shit up
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>>151280630
Cocona was trapped inside her mother penis which represents a return to the womb. So she is going to break free of the penis like an ejaculate into a vagina by exploding into the arms of a women.

So becoming a adult, a women and making your own decisions, is a rejection of her mother and of the penis. Makes perfect sense

Yuri ending confirmed
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well, one sub-par episode out of 12 isn't so bad. I even loved episodes 10 and 11. I think the big issue with this episode is that it feels rushed. It really feels like there is 2 episodes worth of content here, but its crammed into 1 episode. The only things I genuinely disliked about episode 12 aside from the pacing was Deus Ex Machina Mimi being the catalyst for character development, and Papika's "I have loved you since you were born" really, really missing the mark big time.

the thing is, its really just wording on that second part. If she had said, "I love you with all my heart!" or "I love you regardless of the circumstances" or really any other variation of "I love you!" it really would have worked. The problem is that the "since you were born" really draws a bunch of attention to the most nonsensical and dysfunctional part of the relationship, and its really not good to do that at this point.

That said, I have faith that episode 13 will retroactively fix this misgiving somewhat. It is clear to see how: Papika was stuck in the dick tree. All signs point towards the fact that she was trapped in the dick tree and de-aged/was reborn, possibly by evil Mimi, probably for the purpose of being a potential friend/playmate of Cocona. Then, when they were small children, they had their first adventure together: An adventure to another world, the real world. Somehow, in the process of this, Mimi was split into shards, and Papika/Cocona lost their memories. Salt obtained and raised toddler memory-less Papika, while KKK did the same for Cocona.

There is no denying, their relationship up until episode 10 was genuine. At episode 10, Papika regained her memories and was clearly conflicted- she had the memories of two lives inside her after all. While I personally hoped for her to deny or reject her past life, she seems to be embracing both as genuine. Its interesting, but difficult to reconcile for me.
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>>151280981
She can take it since she's best girl.
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Tragic end right?
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What kind of name is Uekulxyu any way?
Sounds like some eldritch horror
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>>151281044
>I have faith
How? Teach me, I need to regain my hope
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>>151281118
Papika, go kiss your girlfriend.
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>>151281120
Rewatch episode 12.

5 bucks says you'll like it much more than the first watchthrough and realize it wasn't actually all that bad at all and still hit all the highnotes you were hoping.
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>>151281049
I was hoping she'd apologize to Papika at some point for treating her like a cunt for weeks and kicking her with a force that could have broken her back several times, but what she's been doing since the end of ep 11 is actually fine, too.
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I can't stop thinking about Yayaka and how cool she is.
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This episode felt very rushed, some character interactions were superficial and unconvincing plus there were clearly some problems with producrion.
But goddamn, Yayaka's apology and henshin, Cocona dai dai dai suki for Papika and wedding armor henshin make up for everything. So despite obvious glaring flaws I really enjoeyd this episode.
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>>151281044
>Deus Ex Machina Mimi being the catalyst for character development
I don't really think that was the case though, we knew she could still exert some control from the previous episode when she made evil Mimi cry on salt. So I think it is implied that when the evil Mimi is under strain she can't also suppress the good Mimi as well. I also think that having Mimi herself being the one to encourage Cocona to follow her heart and giving her a real parental advice talk was a really good move. She has spent the whole show wanting a real family and needing advice, just wanting to talk to her mother even once. I think it was really good and compelling to tie those two things together in a way that resolves the conflict within Cocona but it did feel like it went by a little quickly and there could have been more emotional impact if the conversation was allowed to be a little longer.
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>>151281167
This. /a/'s called every episode since 7 shit on release day.
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>>151281118
Pretty sure he was named after the German biologist Jakob von Uexküll.
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>>151281162
But she could be my daughter.
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>>151281191
she's just too cool, even the twins agree
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>>151281120
The hints are there that

>Papika was stuck in the dick tree. All signs point towards the fact that she was trapped in the dick tree and de-aged/was reborn, possibly by evil Mimi, probably for the purpose of being a potential friend/playmate of Cocona. Then, when they were small children, they had their first adventure together: An adventure to another world, the real world. Somehow, in the process of this, Mimi was split into shards, and Papika/Cocona lost their memories. Salt obtained and raised toddler memory-less Papika, while KKK did the same for Cocona.

Is true.

and if it is true, it means Cocona and Papika have a genuine relationship. It is a genuine relationship, but Papika only suddenly got the memories of a past life flooding back in episode 10.
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>>151280868
>Yayakuck.
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>cocona!
>cocona!
>cocona!
>papika!
>papika!
Dropped.
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>>151281246
>getting cucked so hard that you have to go after your friend's daughter
More like Papicuck.
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>>151281228
I think that reaction is partly genuine but with a good helping of shitposters. I don't doubt some people are disappointed to some extent though. When strawpolls are done the popular vote tends towards when given the option "The show/episode was good/enjoyable but the show/episode could have been better".
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Yayacock
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>>151281224
>I also think that having Mimi herself being the one to encourage Cocona to follow her heart and giving her a real parental advice talk was a really good move. She has spent the whole show wanting a real family and needing advice, just wanting to talk to her mother even once. I think it was really good and compelling to tie those two things together in a way that resolves the conflict within Cocona but it did feel like it went by a little quickly and there could have been more emotional impact if the conversation was allowed to be a little longer.


I understand this point of view, but I really think I would have enjoyed it way more if Cocona reached that conclusion on her own, rejected her mother outright, good or evil, and then upon evil mimi's defeat, the good mimi shows up while fading away like Nia from gurren lagann congratulating her daughter and thanking her for being smart enough to make her own choices and not be ruled by others.

I do agree that I would have enjoyed the way they ended up doing things more if it wasn't so rushed.
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>>151279894
>Ideally you could have had a Pure Illusion used as the narrative vehicle for Papika's backstory, kind of like Episode 6.

This would have been cool.
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>>151281243
>Mimi made Papika de-age because she's the best best friend a girl can have
That's fucked up, but I'll take it
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>12 episodes in
>none of the characters have a personality
What the fuck
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>>151281344
So, on episode 1?
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>>151281373
>like x from x

good thing it didn't then because now it stayed original in the sense of at least not pulling a "rebellious/going against parent" trope
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>>151281426
Nyu is a deep and engrossing character, what are you smoking?
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All I want for the last episode is for Papika's character development to become fully fleshed out.
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>>151281426
sometimes having autism can make it hard to read and understand people, it's not your fault anon
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>>151281426
>2016
>anon still anon
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>>151281509
Please tell what wonderful personalities these characters have.
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>>151281373
I wouldn't count Mimi out yet, the purpose of Salt going to the ELPIS machine must be to try to rescue her from PI. Not to mention there is a snakeheaded Mimi in the episode PV for next week. They are definitely fighting bad Mimi again.
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>>151281490
>an 8 year old with trigger discipline
nani?
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>>151281499
She'll remain a brain dead retard shouting Cocona all the fucking time.
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Can't wait for Little Witch Academia
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>>151281582
They trained her good.
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>>151281499
It looks like there is a fair some focus on her from the PV storyboards. We will at least get to see her deage and hopefully with a bit of explanation of it.
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Knowing the Papika is the same cow titty hag that delivered Cocona, and was attracted to her as a toddler, how would you feel about a kiss ending? Do you still want romance between a 14 year old girl and a 30 year old paedophile?
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>>151279469
>played with trucks

That's fucking adorable.
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>>151281344
Are you not entertained
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>>151281648
Fuck no. Fucking yurifags will accept anything though.
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>>151281648
Lesbian pedophiles are the best pedophiles.
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>>151281627
Hand Shakers is the spiritual sequel to Flip Flappers. That's what we should place our hopes in next.
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>>151281648
That isn't how it is at all though.
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>>151281648
Yes, baito-kun

But to be honest I don't expect anything anymore
I won't care if they both die within PI

Characters screaming each other's names repeatedly don't really make for great character/relationship development
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>>151281648
Yes. That is exactly what I want.
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>>151281648
>"I've already named her Cocona."
>"Weird, I've always imagined marrying a girl named Cocona."
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>>151281721
That's exactly how it is. Stop trying to work around it to justify your ship. At least yurifags admit to not caring about age.
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>>151279577
5>6>9>1>7>4>3>2>10>11>8>12

This was actually the episode I was the most hyped for, so the disappointment is up there. I really need to rewatch it. It gave me a lot of the things I wanted but the execution just felt week. Except for the Yayaka henshin. That was nearly perfect.
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>>151281734
This. Papicoco can fuck off to PI and die there for all I give a shit about their characters.

>>151281779
>3 so low
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>>151281635
but anon
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>>151281768
She is clearly talking about different kinds of love.
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>>151281635
For what? She doesn't do anything.
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>>151281717
Hand Shakers looks like shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGogjhnu-U
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Age is just a number you fags.
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>>151281763
The more they add on to it, the funnier it gets.
I know these scenes are supposed to be heartwarming but I just can't stop chuckling at this tenacious cradle-robber playing to her 15-year plan.
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>>151281846
Every time I post my rankings I get that exact same reply.
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>>151281779
>8 that low
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>>151281648
At this point I want it just because it would make it memorable and some people would find it 'problematic'. Well thought out opinions and arguments aside, I find all the bitching amusing.
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I... I wrote a song for Nyunyu


As I walk through Pure Illusion where I harvest my shards
I take a look at my gun and realize I got it hard
'Cause I've been blastin and laughin so long
That even the robots think that my mind is gone
But I ain't never shot a loli that didn't deserve it
Me contributing to the plot? You know that's unheard of
You better watch how you flippin and where you flappin'
Or something involving me might actually happen
I really hate to matter, but I gotta try
As they die, they see my thong flying in the sky
Fool I'm the kinda G the little twins wanna be like
On up my flying saucer being pointless in the street light
I hope she likes it...
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>>151281648
That's exactly what I want and I've been wanting it since episode 1. I just know they won't deliver though.
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>>151281933
Old /a/ would be all over this shit, I don't know what happened. I too would enjoy the shitstorm.
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>>151281191
Me too, anon.
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>>151281877
>that fucking K filter
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>>151281940
Anon you are a star.
Do you have the previous one?
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what did they meant with this
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If you could go back in times and fix Flip Flappers, how would you do it?

>there is just one Mimi
>Papika is just a 14 year old and didn't know Mimi
>14 episode cour to slow the pace a bit
>get rid of infinite Papi crisis episode since it didn't accomplish anything
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>>151281679
>>151281713
kek
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>>151281890

Well, to be completely fair, its looking like Papika has basically lived 3 lives so far.

1. Original Life, besties with Mimi. Ends when she gets thrown into PI with Mimi and Cocona.

2. Stuck inside the dick tree, and is de-aged to become the 'perfect playmate' for Cocona. None of the memories of her past life, she is just a lonely girl stuck in a tree, her only interactions being when Cocona shows up to talk and play. Eventually they escape PI together.

3. Upon escaping PI together, both Cocona and Papika lost all of their memories. This is essentially Papika's third life, third time starting over. She gets picked up by Salt to work in Flip Flap.

The original life, while important to her and still part of her past, is so far removed from who she is now and the life she has lived over the past 9 or so years that it might as well be a different person at this point. Calling them different "lives" is not inaccurate at this point.
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>>151282081
4 2-cours seasons and 3 movies before a reboot and 11 spinoff manga with an LN tie-in.
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>>151281977
because tumblerfags are what make up 90% of /a/ now
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>>151281879
The whole idea that Papika would have loved Cocona in the same way since she was born is just silly anyway. She clearly meant loved in general rather than specifically meaning "Yeah I wanted to fuck you when you was a baby girl and I still do now". Her love changed from motherly in her previous incarnation to romantic as a deaged Papika without memories.
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>>151282081
There's nothing to fix, you faggots!
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>>151282081
They look older in this shot, look at those bodies.
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If Bubuki Buranki could end with a Reoko/Azuma end, there's nothing stopping Papika/Cocona. The only difference is that Papika and Cocona are both girls and Papika was never an antagonist
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>>151282052
I dunno but I was hoping FF was going to be the Mob Psycho of this season. But Mob was consistently good while FF nosedived.
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>>151282081
Spread the story out instead of ham-fisting it into the last few episodes.
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>>151282081
More flips, less flaps
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>>151282136
It's a preview of their wedding ceremony in a few years.
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>>151282107
>2. Stuck inside the dick tree, and is de-aged to become the 'perfect playmate' for Cocona. None of the memories of her past life, she is just a lonely girl stuck in a tree, her only interactions being when Cocona shows up to talk and play. Eventually they escape PI together.
>3. Upon escaping PI together, both Cocona and Papika lost all of their memories. This is essentially Papika's third life, third time starting over. She gets picked up by Salt to work in Flip Flap.
Where are you getting all of this from? one shot of her being inside that tree?
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>>151282081
papika jobs instead of yayaka and yayaka gets super henshin 2 with cocona
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>>151282052
Cocona is asking Mob to use his powers to color the cuts. Mob says he can't draw. Papika says there are tons of cuts over there too.
The text at the bottom is thanking Mob Psycho's character designer for helping with completing episode 12.

In a tweet replying to that one, he says he couldn't draw cute girls so if Yayaka and Papika look off it's his fault. (Please don't blame him, you know nips are just modest as fuck.) He also says he might end up getting involved next week too at this rate.
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>>151282081
Release artbooks
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>>151282021
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/wrote%20a%20song%20for%20nyunyu/
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>>151282198

good shit
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>>151282081
Start the plot slowly in the early episodes instead of having 9 episodes of foreshadowing. Basically this >>151282155
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>>151281977
We're still all over it, it's just that anything seen as supporting a romantic ending between two female characters is inevitably bait for anti-/u/ autists.
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>>151282107
> Stuck inside the dick tree, and is de-aged to become the 'perfect playmate' for Cocona. None of the memories of her past life, she is just a lonely girl stuck in a tree, her only interactions being when Cocona shows up to talk and play. Eventually they escape PI together.

Looks like this.
You have spoiled half of the 13 episode.
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>sakugagays liked the episode
I'm out, I will never understand how thought process of humanity works
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>>151282178
Not him but look at the PV storyboards from the next episode and the ones in OP. A lot of it is unconfirmed extrapolation from them but it is now confirmed that Papika deages whilst trapped in the tree >>151276143 you can see the trees "bars" in the OP picture. In the dream Mimi always says Welcome Back to Cocona so it is safe to assume she was in PI as a child at some point too. The fact that neither her nor Papika remember any of this indicates they probably both lost their memories.
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>>151282178
>Where are you getting all of this from? one shot of her being inside that tree?

It is one of the very few explanations that will work with the information they have already given us.

We know she fell into PI with Cocona and Mimi. We know she was stuck inside the dick tree without memories during that time. We know that at some period of time, (which must be taking place BEFORE the Yayaka hospital shenanigan flashbacks) Papika and Cocona met at the dick tree. We know sometime after this meeting they both ended up in the real world without their memories.

Knowing that Mimi has almost complete control over PI and memory altering abilities, and creates said dick tree at will to imprison Cocona in this same episode, and that Mimi is driven entirely to do things 'for her daughter', and I think it makes perfect sense. The pieces line up.
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>>151279316
It's a nice detail that her umbrella has caged bird images
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>>151282178
The storyboards in the OP contain a bunch of unordered shots of child Cocona and child Papika meeting in the dicktree.

We didn't know what happened to Papika after following Mimi into PI at the end of the last flashback, but know we have a pretty good idea. She was de-aged to the point of being a baby and kept around in the dick cage until Cocona found and freed her. Their escape must be whatever triggered Mimi to explode into shards and ends with them both losing their memories and returning to the real world. This is how Cocona ended up back in KKK hands and how Flip Flap managed to retrieve Papika.
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>>151282081
This:
>>151279894
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>>151282287
I see
Didn't want to open that link because OP spoiled enough by taking a picture of every frame from that PV, but I guess sticking to this thread means I get spoiled anyway

At least it seems like we'll get a decent ending. Maybe
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Maybe the elevens have seen so many shows bungle their finales that yet another one falling into the same trap is not worth noting.
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>>151278855
>Your cheeks flush in a chill breeze, have you never been outside in winter before?

No it doesn't. Then again my skin is black.
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In my opinion, literally all the problems Flip Flappers seems to have is because of pacing problems. It really should have been a 2 cour series, instead of just 13 episodes.

That way we'd have more time for comfy, creative PI adventures, earlier introduction of Mimi, Nyu, and more character development for them, along with Papika development, and would get rid of the shitty cuts in these last episodes.

More time between papika mindrape and resolution, more time for Yayaka's henshin, and better pacing to deliver the emotional shocks and important moments.
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>>151282277
its pretty obvious whats gonna happen at this point. No spoiling needed. I have come to the conclusion that this is a show that is better marathoned than it is to watch syndicated.
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>>151282381
You asked where we were getting the information from. Should have really guessed that was the case if you were already avoiding it.
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>>151282285
Yayaka's battlescene was a sakuga explosion and some of the best animated action in the entire series.

Of course sakugafags like it. Say what you will about them and their stupid opinions, but at least they stick to what they claim is important. The bloggers and pseudointellectuals are still looking for excuses to hate it since it no longer suits their queer narrative.
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>>151282453
I thought there were more hints throughout episodes that I missed, like Mimi telling Cocona welcome back.
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>>151279482
>Yayakami
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>>151282081
2 cours, 2 seasons.
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>>151282467
That ending when Mimi called them bad girls and the mech monster thing came and then they one punched it was pretty good too.
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>>151282467
>The bloggers and pseudointellectuals are still looking for excuses to hate it since it no longer suits their queer narrative.

This really annoys me. What kind of mindset does it take to enjoy media because it confirms your own political/religious/other beliefs? Practically the whole reason I watch anime is because it's so completely cut off from real world shit like that. But Western media and Westerners are so steeped in it that they don't think something can possibly be intellectually engaging without having some kind of message or axe to grind.
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>>151282285
>>sakugagays liked the episode
Is this real? Holy shit. I give up.
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>>151282081
There's nothing wrong with the story. Just needs more budget and marketing.
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>>151282081
change the plot
I don't like evil possessive moms
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>>151282605
i think he is referring to yuyucow saying this was the ep he liked the most since the current arc started, which is pretty faint praise really

while it had some decent animation highlights (not very impressed with anything personally) i think as an episode this was easily worse than 11 which was worse than 10 which was worse than everything before it
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>>151282600
Not everyone sees art as escapism. Also art has a tendency to contain ideas, and those ideas tend to have implications in the real world. That's why people like to look for themes and messages.
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When was the last time an anime you were this hyped over shit the bed this hard?

WIXOSS for me
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>>151282605
There were some really great cuts in the episode. Even if there were a few that were clearly unfinished and had to have awkward cuts and stills.
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>>151282700
do you think the BDs might fix this?
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I'm not completely sure but I think these are all Sayuri.
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>>151282600
You're trying to make sense of people that want black/transgendered/female/asian/whatever people win awards without regards to their talent just for the sake of "equality", them wanting shows to be about LGBTFO'd is really minor.

I admit I loved when some people pointed out the phallic/yonic symbolism, and the bed scene in episode 7 was well made.
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>>151282400
Chocona?
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>>151282750
I think they will and hopefully some of the lower quality stuff from episode 11.

>>151282665
I think this episode was better than both 10 and 11.
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>>151282680
The baffling thing to me is when people go "wow a minority character? this is now higher quality art" as if that mattered at all in any capacity or showed any real sensibility towards said minority
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What's the problem with Papika saying "I've loved you since you were born"?

Is it an issue with the fact she's known her since she was born? In which case take that up with the previous episodes. Once that's established they have to stick with it, they can't just ignore it.

Is it a problem with the fact she said it? In which case I don't understand, I get the impression from the show that Mimi sort of entrusted Cocona to Papika. It sort of switches the implied Yuri to something more familial seeming, but we don't know how Papika's de-aging plays into that yet
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>>151279857
She really is a Thomasson, fuck
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>>151282762
Yep, she's operating Elpis
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>>151282815
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>>151282600
It's a marxism thing.
Marx was really big on fiction and non-fiction being literally the same thing, and fictive ostentation being smoke and chaff used to deceive the proletariat into ingesting a message that would then engineer their view of the world.

A lot of popular european post-structuralists liked that idea and incorporated it into their own works, and western academics in the 21st century is a trend-chasing affair currently enamored with european post-structuralism. Most opinionated american bloggers with bachelors in humanities take the assumption that fiction controls the mind of the plebs as totally granted and rabidly criticize any work which advances a narrative not in the service of their own, because they see it as a competition for control over the minds of the voting public, and therefore a ticket into state-mandated legitimacy. It's a tempting fallacy because everybody would love to believe that by nerding out on their favourite entertainment, they can somehow change the world.
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>>151282822
I think it's more that people find it interesting than that they think it makes it better. Some people think it makes it better as well but I feel those people are in the minority.
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>>151282843
It is kind of awkward to bring it up I think some people find it uncomfortable that attention was drawn to it. I don't really get it though I mean it is clear Papika's love has changed from motherly/care giver love to romantic love when she had become a completely different person for all purposes. It's not as if she was like fuck that is one sexy baby.
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>>151278627
Someone have a DL or imgur of all these?
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>>151282762
Looks like it.
The first couple appear to be her helping Salt with the Elpis, and the last ones kinda look like epilogue material.
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>>151282908
Damn, that makes a lot of sense.
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>>151282843
It's easy to imagine that "I've loved you since you were born" implies that it's always been the same kind of love. It's probably not, but mentioning that you've even known someone since they were born is kind of awkward if you're supposed to be lovers.
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>>151282843
There are two potential problems depending on the direction they take things.

1. She is a cradle bopper.
2. Her previous love is either not genuine or has been over written.

Either she has loved her since she was born and no romantically loves her, or her almost motherly "i loved you since you were born!" has overwritten loli papikana's love love LOVE you!

Both of which are the wrong direction to take things.
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>>151282997
It may also be some kind of 'DESTINY' or promised thing
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>>151283009
Neither of those need to necessarily be the case she could just be using love as a general term covering both types simultaneously. It is true, she has loved her in one way or another since she was born. That doesn't have any impact on the type of love it is now.
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>>151283009
What if her love for Cocona has always been the platonic love of a godmother for her godchild and there never has been any romantic tinge to it whatsoever?
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>>151281167
>>151281228
I personally have watched every episode only once, and have enjoyed just about all of them.
Not this one, though. It just wasn't very good.
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>>151283087
Then Papika is a very lewd and easy girl.
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>>151279671
I'm actually sitting like that right now as I type this...
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>>151283072
yeah, but I think that specific type of love is not what should have been the focus of that particular scene. That scene should have been about their mutual and current love, later during whatever explanation Papika gives cocona, is when the whole "I loved you since you were born" would have came off as something that is possibly endearing. But using that during a scene that almost feels like a confession of sorts just doesnt feel quite right. I am not against the line itself, but rather how and when it was used.
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>>151283041
It is, I think they made it clear by now. Papika doesn't change, Cocona is afraid of change. They both accept each other, they were both made for each other, partners, lovers, friends, family.

>>151283087
This kills the yuri
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>>151283087
What if the moral of the show all along was to show yurifags that they've been projecting their yuri desires so much to the point it made them completely blind to what a pure platonic/motherly love between two girls is?
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>>151283087
That wouldnt work though because Papika didn't get her memories back until episode 10, and she has been LOVE LOVE LOVE since at least episode 3.
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>>151283167
The way it was scripted was awkward I think, would have just been better if the born bit was left out and she said always instead or something.
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I loved this episode. It had everything I was hoping for and more.
And now I'm dumbfounded that so many people find issues with it. Maybe I'm just retarded and easily entertained.
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>>151283241
Yes, I think so too!
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Papika daisuki'd Cocona since she was born
But she daidaidaisuki'd Cocona after going on PI adventures with her
Learn the difference, it could save your ship
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>>151283009
>Both of which are the wrong direction
Aren't they just directions you don't like?

I mean her being a cradle bopper is messed up, I guess I'd agree that's wrong

But the love being overwritten isn't that terrible, sure it means Cocona and Papika won't fuck or anything but I feel like it helps things make more sense. Why did Papika like Cocona so much in the first place? She just sort of popped up out of nowhere and glomped onto her without explanation. This way it makes sense, even if Papika doesn't remember properly and is confused, it's like she's repurposed her love while she's in her new form

Although while writing that paragraph I just remembered earlier Papika seemed to mostly be confusing Cocona with Mimi rather than knowing she's Mimi's kid... this show has been a real mess. Isn't she saying stuff now that contradicts scenes from earlier episodes...?
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>>151283210
Would've made more sense if they didn't wait 10 episodes to add that idea. :^)
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>>151283242
I loved the episode too but I can find issue with the way certain things happened and some of the unfinished bits. To be honest I don't think there has been a single bad unenjoyable episode.
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>>151283242
"I loved you since you were born!" was what you were hoping for?
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>>151283242
I enjoyed the episode itself, but not the plot direction.
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>>151283294
I feel like the last few minutes needed to be extended. The transformation and beating the robot happens way too fast.
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>>151283283
>Isn't she saying stuff now that contradicts scenes from earlier episodes...?
Nothing that I can think of. I don't think either of those 2 options anon presented need to be the case though. It is just awkward and uncomfortable the way she conflated the two types of love in one sentence. It is quite possible that in her previous memories she remembers loving her in a cute baby way and now with her new life and memories she loves her in the romantic way.
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>>151283283
>Why did Papika like Cocona so much in the first place?

Because Papika was trapped in the dick tree for the first several years of her "life" and Cocona was her only friend and human contact during this period.
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>>151282081
>If you could go back in times and fix Flip Flappers
remove Mimi, here, fixed
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>>151283283
>Why did Papika like Cocona so much in the first place?
Girls Meets Girl
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>preview is storyboards
>"pure audio"
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>>151283440
No, that would be dumb.

Mimi existing is fine. It's how her role in the story turned out that's unfortunate.
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>>151283385
I think beating the robot so fast was meant to show what a push over he has become, because the girls powered up so much. But no transformation sequence is a crime.
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>>151282081
Remember when Yayaka almost stabbed Cocona to steal the amorpheous inside her? Make her go through with it, and the rest of the episodes is a mix of Papika revenge, Yayaka redemption and regret, and Cocona recovery and finding inner strength, to stop the evil organization which now has all the shards and unlimited power.
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Pretty sure loving Cocona since the day she was born was Papika trying to be romantic, choosing her over Mimi.
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Even the ANN reviewer says Flip Flap is saved now.
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>>151280134
Mother is a dick, sadly.
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so guys, did Oshiyama save christmas?
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>>151283569
No
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>>151283537
I like to think that, too. Papika just isn't very smart when it comes to choosing the right words.
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>>151283588
>Papika just isn't very smart
end
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>>151283569
Christmas hasn't been ruined to begin with
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>>151283538
and the guy who wrote about Flip Flappers having no expressions the other day and triggered everyone.
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>>151283569
He made Christmas messy and confusing
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>>151283569
I think Oshiyama's storyboard work this ep is subpar. He crammed too much into one ep and made it very difficult for the script to not be awkward.
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>>151283660
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>>151283692
I don't see much wrong with that.
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>>151283242
Yayaka henshin was the greatest thing I've seen in a long time, so I can't exactly hate the episode outright.
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>>151283626
Very much this. The episode was messy and erratic, mostly because it felt as if they were trying to insert every cool thing into this one episode that they'd thought of but have since not yet found time to fit into the show.
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>>151283626
There were two storyboarders. I think a few of the bits that were actually jarring cuts like the bit on the bike and the bit with Salt/Sayuri/NyuNyu flying through the air were legitimately unfinished so had to have those awkward cuts to skip where the animation would have been.
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>>151283538
You must be joking.
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did yayaka save kurisumasu?
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>>151283692
There is absolutely nothing wrong here.
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>>151283692
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>>151281879
Sure thing, old man. Look at that bulging stomach of yours.
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>>151283772
Nope. Consensus opinion among bloggers and twitter people seems to be that Flip Flappers is back to its good old self minus some of the poorer animated scenes.
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>>151283660
QUALITY

>>151283692
Looks fine to me.
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>>151279894
Well the show is incredibly wasteful. Instead of recycling their own storytelling and keeping what they have, they keep borrowing from other works resulting in clusterfuck.
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>>151283788
no, she saved papika. did you watch the episode?
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>>151279246
This isn't much different than trash like Usagi Drop which /a/ loves solely for le ebin anti-normie street cred, but it's yuri so noone cares.
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>>151283158
That was the shoujou-ai gokigenyou world. Doesn't count.
Even Yaya and Coco were getting flustered there. It screwed with their heads.
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>>151279246
>Platonic love
>/u/-fags hate the episode just because of this
As expected of the delusional.
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>>151283626
what if they crammed so much into this episode so that the ending episode can be perfect?

>>151283588
>>151283537


I am starting to hate myself. I love loli, so why would I fault Papika for loving some nice loli too? I find age gap hentai to be great. I enjoy incest doujins and hentai, and one of my deepest darkest secrets which I will take to my grave is the fantasy of having a wife who is into loli and shit like I am, and we would just raise an incest family of raw lust and love.

Yet, I am so harsh and critical of Papikana for basically being this woman that I dream of finding, of having these traits that I myself fantasize about.

I dont know what to think or feel anymore.
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>>151283831
I bet it's because of the wedding dresses. That's the only explanation I can think of.
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>>151282908
You're right.
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>mfw Papika is going to remain in PI along with Mimi and Cocona+Yayaka return to the normal world

I feel it will happen
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>>151283987
I think they pay a lot of attention to what the sakugafags say too and the opinion there seems to be generally positive.
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>>151283242
I loved it too I just feel like it needed to be five or ten minutes longer.
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>>151283831
>twitter people

For some reason it seems to me like all the "Twitter people" also browse /a/. Maybe people are just more forthcoming about their opinions when they're anonymous.
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>>151283525
That would turn it into a completely different show but I think I would actually love it.
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>>151284017
I feel like Papika might get divided into two different people, one stays with Mimi and one goes to the normal world
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>>151283916
Usagi Drop was cute and great until that weird pseudo-incestual shift at the end, I don't think that makes the whole thing trash, just up until that point
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>>151284034
I'm sure quite a number probably do, the sakugafag community started off on 4chan.
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>>151283970
Sounds like you're realizing the difference between fantasy and rality
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>>151283916
/a/ loves Usagi Drop?

I mean if you are using "/a/" to refer to the like 20 people who actually read the whole manga, I guess? I haven't seen a thread for it in ages though
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>>151284050
Usagi drop was weird because the guy raised the girl, they were literally like faughter dan daughter
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>>151284004
>/pol/ sperging about muh marxists even here
Why can't you all fuck off?
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>>151284113
>aughter dan daughter
Anonymous, are you having a stroke?
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>>151283242
I liked it too
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>>151284034
I made a bunch of Twitter friends from this show and they talk about /a/ sometimes.
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>>151283525
I was thinking the exact same thing ever since that episode. If Yayaka would have gone through with it, this show would've been a daring masterpiece.
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>>151284113
>faughter dan daughter
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>>151284208
oh hey anon I didn't notice that your mom was in this episode.
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>>151284208
i spit out my water delet this
>>
>>151284208
I don't care if it is an in-between frame, this shit is unforgivable.
>>
>>151284128
I don't think you understood the comic.
It not /a/ though.
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>>151284241
Not really, the fucking bitch is supposed to be ugly when she turned her real form
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>>151284190
Not him, but that's cute. I always sperg out even when using pseudonym, let alone my real name, so the only thing I can properly do are lurking people's tweets.
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>>151284241
It's not supposed to be pretty.
And I'm decently sure that's a key frame
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>>151284241
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>>151284224
I wish Welwitschia was my mom.

Then things would be different around here.
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>>151284208
>REEEEEEE
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>>151284241
How is that unforgivable? Look at how much detail there is in that frame. It's clearly intended.
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>>151283194
>This kills the yuri
I've been waiting to use this for so long.
>>
Normally, how many key frames do one anime episode have? It's probably flexible, but how many on average for an action-heavy one like this show?
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>>151284435
3000-6000 drawings, the amount of keyframes can be a much more variable number I'd guess.
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>>151284383
It's been posted a dozen times though, and the yuri is confirmed. You anti-shippers are as insufferable as the shippers.
>>
>>151284344
>>151284208
Why is she the most expressive character in the show? Only Hidaka comes close. I wish Cocona, Papika and Yayaka were given this treatment
>>
I want to feel the warm wetness of Cocona's vagina around my throbbing meatstick
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>>151284537
>and the yuri is confirmed.
No it's not.
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>>151284540
You're not very smart.
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>>151284584
You need to get Mimi's placentacles shoved up your dickhole.
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>>151284241
>unforgivable
She is literally in the middle of morphing shapes, how to you expect it to look in the middle?
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>>151284540
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>motherhood ended with Mimi
>Papika is my mom now
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>>151284598
Mutual love confession.
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>>151284208
>>151284344
kek
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>>151284598
They literally had a symbolic wedding ceremony after declaring their love for each other. Just friends though sure.
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>>151284686
I am as big a yurifag as you can get, and I think you're reaching.
White costume power ups are not even a new thing in mahou shoujo.
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>>151284598
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>>151284755
Multiple nips interpreted it the same way.
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>>151284783
the nips are right, they're married and that fistbump symbolized their union
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>>151284783
>Multiple nips
Well my opinion's been changed.

No guarantee that any of those nips weren't only being facetious, either.
>>
>>151284208
It's like that drawing of Pepe sperging out
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>>151284840
See
>>151278220
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>>151284598
Cocona did say daidaidaidaisuki
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>>151284891
I know what you were referring to, genius.
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>I love love love you
>I always loved youuuu
>wedding dresses
>somehow not yuri
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>>151284935
>fist bumps
>yuri
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3, 5, 6, 8 > 1, 4, 9 > 2, 7, 10 > 12 > 11

The magic is lost on me. Still, you guys are just too much fun and there is only 1 episode to go, so I might as well stay. I just don't have confidence in the last episode. Too many plot threads left and only 20 minutes to tie them.
>>
So this show is definitely confirmed for the "Rushed 1-cour that could have been the GOAT anime if it had more time to develop the plot" tag, right?
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>>151285027
>implying girls fisting isn't yuri
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>>151285099
If they didn't stuff the plot with so much extraneous stuff, it would have been fine. Too much, too fast, presented awkwardly.
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>>151285027
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>>151285099
Or alternatively, the "Anime that could have been great if they hadn't changed writers".
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>>151285174
Don't start this. The thread after subs were released was way worse than all FlipFlappers' drawbacks
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>>151285174
The face animation is a more serious problem. They just don't communicate emotions at all.
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>>151282632
This
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