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Get into Pure Illusion, Cocona
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>>151271215
Weak episode this week, and the animation quality is slipping.

Are we going full Gunbuster black and white for 13?
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>>151271215
At least we all agree that Flip Flappers is not AOTS anymore. Because damn, these last few episodes.
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>>151271215
fourth for writer change
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>>151271336
Best episode since episode 9 full of cool shit happening. Nothing wrong with the animation besides the bit that literally wasn't animated that seemed unfinished.
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>>151271336
>Pure Audio
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>>151271360
11 was great, 10 was a fine flashback episode. But this one really fucked up.
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>>151271215
Is Flip Flappers about to save anime forever?
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>>151271336
>Animation wasn't fantastic
>Gunbuster was black and white because of budget and time constraints
Well, at least that definitively proves that people that are complaining about the animation don't actually know shit about animation.
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>>151271360
Quite easily AOTS probably AOTY.
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>Pure audio

I... I wrote a song for Cocona
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>>151271405
No but /u/ is about to be rekt again. Poor guys I wish they actually could win for once.
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>>151271398
>>151271336
I think the cuts are the more glaring issues than the animation. They're so confusing.
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>>151271404
Yayaka henshin is still the best thing I've seen in this show. It just happened to be in the worst episode.
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>>151271405
It already did with this episode.
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>>151271427
>Animation wasn't fantastic
Oh yeah, gotta love that PowerPoint presentation that was Nyunyu's encounter with Salt and Sayuri.

Really feeling that animation.
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>>151271427
thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>151271465
Already won multiple times, and you don't wish for anything because you hate it.
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This episode was a mess
Rushed as hell, seemed like they had plenty ideas and decided to put all of them in one episode.

>we need to bring back the old PIs!
>do it, let Yayaka transform too
>also mindbreak Papika
>let Bu transform too
>k
>they should defeat Mimi in this episode
>are you sure, boss?
>yea let Cocona and Papika have like 20 seconds of calling each others names and transforming because everyone loves transformations
>brilliant. What are we going to do in the final episode?
>I don't know yet
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The only thing I can positively say about this show is the animation. It's been too notch since the beginning.
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>>151271493
Yeah, that was pretty insulting to the show.
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>>151271474
Agreed, too bad it didn't amount to much because Papika and Cocona upgraded again.
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What is it with yurihaters purposely coming to threads that are yuri-friendly? I mean, what's up with that? Are these gay men in real life or landwhales?
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>>151271360
Nah. The worst episodes were still a 7 or 7.5 for me, and are outnumbered by 9s and 10s.

At the very least I know I will be rewatching this in the future more than the other 30-40 shows I watched this year.
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>>151271516
I think I read this post already. What is this felling?
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>me after watching Flip Flappers
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>>151271499
We really don't need more pretending to be retarded.
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I... I wrote a song for Nyunyu.

Nyu nyu nyu nyunyunyu nyu, nyunyunyu nyu, hey Jude
Nyu nyu nyu nyunyunyu nyu, nyunyunyu nyu, hey Jude
Nyu nyu nyu nyunyunyu nyu, nyunyunyu nyu, hey Jude
Nyu nyu nyu nyunyunyu nyu, nyunyunyu nyu, hey Jude

I hope she'll like it.
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>>151271516
Pretty much my reaction as well. Plus, as >>151271472 noted, the cuts were weird and jaggy. No idea how they're going to fille 23 minutes next week with denouement.
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>>151271451
>>151271550
>having standards this low
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>>151271493
>There was a 12 second cut that didn't get finished
>That means the fight animation was bad

>>151271499
Listen to this guy
>>151271567
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>>151271550
I'll still gladly rewatch this show if the finale is worth it. Otherwise, the destination is not worth the journey if knowing that everything amounted to nothing.
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>Flip Flappers saved Christmas and will save New Year's Eve
They actually did it, the madman.
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>>151271516
>having tons of cool shot happen is bad
Ok if you hate cool things.
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>>151271516
Fucking this. Fuck the circlejerk, FliFla isn't even top 3 this season.
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>final episode preview is just the storyboards
Oh fuck
FUCK.
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY
THIS ISN'T WHAT WE MEANT BY AN EVA REFERENCE
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>>151271625
>>151271567
For the record, we don't need samefagging either.
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Do you think it's time for them to reaaally feel that career change?
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>>151271637
They're just messing with us.
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Have faith, next weeks episode will be the greatest ending to an anime ever and will redeem everything wrong with the show and this episode.
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>>151271575
Was this outfit really necessary?
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This was great.
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>>151271597
You think it's over? Salt is going to go into the machine to save Mimi and it's going to be a clusterfuck.
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>>151271612
>having standards this shit
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>Good Mimi shows up out of nowhere and solves everything while evil Mimi is ranting
Okay.
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>>151271637
Are you ready for the the recap in 2017, followed by the ending movie?
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>>151271675
Really feeling that desperation.

Accept it, Flip Flappers sucks now.
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>>151271675
There wasn't anything wrong with this episode to be honest.
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The director asks you for the last episode twist that will place this anime forever in the anime hall of fame

What's your master plan?
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The can is spinach.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482419219309.webm
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>>151271691
I want to fuck drooling retard Papika's unresisting body.
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>>151271725
The final episode is live action
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>>151271725
Even with the age gap, Cocona and Papika still kiss romantically.
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>>151271725
Yayaka kisu Cocona

I don't even want it but I bet that would do it.
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>>151271707
She did it already last episode when bad Mimi was on salt and she cried a tear. I assume it takes effort for evil Mimi to keep the good one surpressed.
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>>151271663
That's what I thought at first, but now on second thought given the state of their fucked up schedule and tired animators, hilariously, they might have actually run out of time and decided to pass off their storyboards as a surprise 2deep4u experimental preview. It's very possible.
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>>151271676
Nyu.
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>>151271725
The final episode is just a black screen with the sound on top of it. Pure Audio.
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>>151271675
The only way for the final episode to redeem this show, is if they go full artfag and make a 22 montage of kino animation. Even more than Texhnolyze episode 1. Anything less than that is a failure.

Or maybe Inferno Cop style.
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>>151271725
Have Nyu Nyu matter.

>>151271750
Been there, done that.
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>>151271718
N-no stop that

>>151271722
It was a poorly paced episode that did very little to develop the story in a meaningful way and had one of the cheesiest final 30 seconds in any show I have ever seen. But sure it was okay I guess.
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We're almost there, just one more episode.

Another milestone, we broke 40 Cocona's per episode, didn't really think we'd manage break recrods 2 episodes back to back.

Totals:
>C: 285+1(inaudible)+4(previews) = 290
>P: 148+1(preview) = 149

Will we break 300 Coconuts? Find out next week!
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Are you feeling that writer change?
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>>151271746
No.
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>>151271794
>22 montage
*22 minutes montage
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>>151271725
Link dead Cocona from episode 1 to the ending.
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>>151271651
Swing and a miss, champ.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>151271725
Cocona kisses Yayaka on the lips.
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Didn't they finish scripts and storyboards early? What the fuck happened?
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>>151271836
I sure am.
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>>151271876
They went for the Eva aesthetics
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>>151271876
The animator slept on the sheets now they have to draw the final episode again.
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>>151271876
They didn't have any producers telling them to cut the shit and get to the plot already. And obviously, the director wasn't good enough to manage that on his own.
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>>151271810
It was great, fast paced, had tons of action and fun ideas happen. Yayakas transformation was emotionally impactful and so was good Mimis reappearance to reassure Cocona especially and Papika. Took major steps forward in resolving the two major issues of Cocona's indecisiveness and directionlessness and her relationship with Papika. I couldn't have asked for more.
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I'LL KILL YOU OSHIYAMA, I'LL KILL YOU OSHIYAMA
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>>151271820
Right I forgot to ask, would anyone actually want me to scan the page once it's complete or will that just be a waste of time?
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They should've at least held hands instead of fucking finger-tapping and fist-bumping. And as some people have already said, the cuts were horrendous at points. Like when Salt suddenly tosses the motorcycle into the sky after skidding on a white background for a few seconds. Jesus.

Also, the whole "I've loved you ever since you were born" bit reeked of Twilight's imprinting shit. Can't give FliFla a pass just because it was so amazing for its first 9 episodes.

STILL no Papika explanations. They can't just gloss over it with a Yayahenshin and some new outfits.
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>>151271725
Papika and Yayaka were the same person all along and Cocona has to choose between them.
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This show ended at episode 7, right before the Mimi flashback. Perfect ending.
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>>151271722
There really wasn't. People are just meme-ing at this point.
>End the show on the final fight
>People complain there was no epilogue
>Use a whole episode for final fight + epilogue
>People complain the episode will be full of filler
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>>151271946
He has a twitter? We need to ask him, why. Just why.
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>>151271959
Do it.
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EVA is garbage though.
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>>151271933
>didn't have any producers
>literally 10 different companies on production committee and a separate production company managing the show

Why do you just make things up when you've no idea what you are talking about?
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>>151271876
I got the impression that the storyboards for 11 and 12 were over-sized, hence why in the tv broadcast they ended up being cut too quickly and with an awkward distribution of animator effort.

It's a common mistake for new directors to misjudge how much screentime any particular cut might take, and end up these sorts of issues. Too many big ideas to fit into 24 minutes and no clear idea of what can afford to be cut down to fit it all.
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>>151271978
Papika had a flashback of being in a tree prison at the start of the ep, that will be explained in the end.
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>>151271936
Yayaka was the highlight of the episode. Issue I have mainly is I think they blew their load too early. Should have ended this episode of a cliff hanger and had it resolve next episode.

The only option I see available to them now is making shit go down in the final episode before resolving it. Otherwise there is no tension and the atmosphere of the show is ruined.
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>>151271959
I say do it. Maybe then we will be able to tell how hard were we supposed to feel that writer change.
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>>151271992
It's not even about the ideas. Everyone's complaining about the poor execution which is what matters in the end.
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>>151272018
Do you not understand English grammar? "Telling them to cut the shit" is qualifying "producers" in that sentence.
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>>151271959
Obviously it is a waste of time. Your existence is a waste of oxygen.
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>>151271978
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>>151271725
The ending to this episode was just Papika's dream and she's still mindbroken. Mimi goes full edgelord, and the series ends with a cliffhanger hinting at Yayaka / Nyunyu adventures in Pure Illusion next season.
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>>151271978
I think where there were awkward cuts was unfinished animation.
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>Yuyu and Toto showed back up just to be cheerleaders for Yayaka henshin
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>>151271707
They were on the clover field PI, where Mimi first found her "evil" self.
The evil Mimi even told Papika "Why did you come to this place?!" after they arrived there because she knew both Mimis have power here.
If they were elsewhere this wouldn't have happened.
Please pay attention to the show before shitposting.
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>>151271989
>not at episode 9, right before the drama set in
Not a perfect ending, but I wouldn't want to miss out on COCONAAA
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>>151271978
>like when Salt suddenly tosses the motorcycle into the sky after skidding on a white background

That is why you do not ride a bike on snow. Not only was he riding on snow he was leaning into the turn and he had a pillion. If anything they should have come off sooner.
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>>151272049
So you didn't answer the question. Why do you make shit up when you've no idea what you are talking about?
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>>151272055
>TO BE CONTINUED IN NEXT SEASON
>meanwhile, 3Hz goes bankrupt

Now why does this sound familiar?
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>>151272100
This whole sequence was the highlight of the episode
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>>151271978
Yeah, it was a pretty bad episode overall. Not good news at all considering we're at end game.
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>tfw this was easily my fav thing this season until episode 9
>not sure now
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>>151272100
I'm saving this as "DYEL.webm"
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>>151272036
You didn't notice that Salt going into the machine was unresolved? That wasn't the final ending climax.
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>>151271992
For me it's kind of a mix of >>151271936 and >>151271810. Not god awful, but could have been done better.

Yayaka transformation scene was awesome though.
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>>151271989
Speaking of episode seven, we still don't know what this was about.
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>>151271725
Pretty much >>151271793, except the sounds are Cocona and Papika tribbing while Yayaka gently sobs in the background.
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>>151272119
No, again, you evidently don't fucking speak English. It's not that they don't have producers; they have a shit-ton. It's that they clearly don't have producers that are telling them to cut the crap. You can't just lop off nouns without their modifiers.
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>exciting and creative original that's AOTY shoe-in fumbles in the last 3 episodes
Every fucking time
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>>151272129
>going bankrupt when you aren't even on the production committee for a show

Haha no.
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>>151272185
The shields he activated when he meet Mimi.
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>>151272100
Really feeling those gains.
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>>151272185
>we

No. I'm not that dumb.
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>>151272034
"It will be explained in the end" and "the ending will be good" have been the only notions keeping me on board since last episode.
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>>151271844
This, actually.
>half the "real life" parts were actually imaginary/PI
>the role of Mimi's daughter was projected on a random girl (Cocona) for whatever reason
>it didn't work
>in the end she was just another bust
>Cocona is dead, Yayaka, who was just her childhood friend before getting twisted by the PI, is also dead as a collateral
>KKK is intact
>Papika is looking for a new candidate
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>>151272169
Yeah I noticed that, and I think that will be what causes the shit to go down in the final episode. He will drag them all in to deep PI some how and will create a massive mess.

P sure salto and PPK die.
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>>151272185
He was setting up that ring of speaker things to confront Mimi.

They just failed spectacularly
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>>151272195
You still aren't answering the question. Why do you make shit up when you've no idea what you are talking about?
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>>151272130
>Bu-chan is useless even with its trump card
Poor Bu-chan.
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why the fuck is that loli almost naked?
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Meanwhile at 3hz
https://twitter.com/kyon_130/status/811914478430265344
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>>151272236
I think they are going to try rescue the actual Mimi from PI.
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>>151272274
Gotta get sales up somehow.
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Reminder that Flip Flappers will not have a happy ending
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>>151272274
For your viewing pleasure
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>>151272316
It better not, after how corny this episode's ending was.
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>>151272147
This show should have been the AOTS. They fucked everything up.
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Was it really necessary?
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Daddy's long legs.
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>>151272316
Maybe this is just following the scene they have in the OP, with Cocona meeting Papika back at the pipe for the ending.
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>>151272353
This show is AOTS.
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>>151272367
Holy shit that Nyubutt
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>>151272356
>3.31 MB

I will answer in 15 minutes.
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Episode was great, ya'll are fags.
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>Taking both capability AND agency from your MCs
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>151272274
Because that's how lolis are at their best.
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>>151272439
Agreed
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What's the chance of this happening next week?
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>>151272196
I almost don't want to see episode 13. I just know it's going to ruin things even further.
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>>151272367
Daddy's inexplicably large thigh gap, you mean.
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When it comes down to it, I'm glad that they at least did justice to Yayaka's henshin, though it was really short-lived.

I'm half-expecting Cocona to give Yayaka an upgrade for the climax so that all three of them can combo Darth Mimi to death or something.
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Judging from the PV at the end, we might be getting an EVA ending.
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>>151272461
too high
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>>151272476
That's shadow
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>>151272461
Judging from the PV, no, sad end with lost Papika.
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>>151272353
This, they fucked up.
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>>151272484
meant to reply to >>151272461
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>>151272461
We're entering extremely likely territory
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>>151272461
>>151272484
If they're going to shit the bed with the writing then the least we can get is an ending that will be remembered and shitstormed about.
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What is your top 3 AOTS now after this episode? Does it still include Flip Flappers?
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>>151272439
This reaction image is so useful.
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Episode was trash, ya'll are fags.
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>>151272558
You too.
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>>151272483
>I'm half-expecting Cocona to give Yayaka an upgrade for the climax

You're only half-expecting that? The real betting is on whether we're getting an End-style Giant Naked Mimi or some shit.
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>>151272558
Disagreed
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>>151272556
I only watched 3 shows this season
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>>151272461
Something even better than the best ending in all of anime?
Sasuga Flip Flappers.
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>>151272540
>dat salute

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a fucking properly drawn military salute in anime. Why can't they do a bit of research on this?
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>>151272556
Definitely, because this entire season was shit
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>>151272558
Agreed
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>>151272556
Given that I'm only watching two shows this season, yes.

>>151272585
Now I want someone to draw a half of a giant Mimi head sitting in a field of clovers
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What did they mean by this
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>>151272439
Also agreed.
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Salt is pretty dead
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1. FlipFlap
2. Keijo.
3. Drifters.

Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku would be in Keijo's place if not for the ending.
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>>151272603
Because they are not in a fucking military.
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>>151272651
They are just baiting us. Right?
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>>151272651
Cocona's getting back inside Mimi, one way or another.
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>>151272556
I'll reserve judgement until the finale, but if it maintains the trend of 11 and 12, Flip Flappers will end up being one of those shows that always carries the caveat "It was amazing BUT the ending was kinda crap"

I don't think anything this season comes close in competition, though, even if the ending ends up shitty. Most of the major contenders had too many problems or flaws prevalent all throughout, while in flifla they were mostly concentrated in the ending.
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>>151272556
Flip Flappers quite easily AOTS with an episode this great.
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>>151272603
If a Japanese animator doesn't know, why would a test tube clone baby raised by the KKK in an underground research facility know?
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>>151272671
meant for >>151272556
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>>151272651
Jesus
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>>151272256
Not him, but they had to assemble 11 different animation directors this episode and obviously manage to have this kind of poor clusterfuck quality. How is that not a production blunder?
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>>151272671
Even with best girl dead, it was still great.
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>>151272690
Wow mother, what big teeth you have
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>>151272100
Anyone done a webm of the muscle henshin yet or am I going to have to do it myself?
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I really reconsider sending them a card at this point.
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>>151272725
If you want to see a real production blunder look at the multiple shows that don't have to postpone episodes or look at yuri on ices recent staff list because that's even worse.
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>>151272756
Its been done, look for it
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>>151272651
>Mimi touches an apple to access evil Mimi
>evil Mimi takes the form of a snake
It means that Oshiyama has run out of ideas and is officially creatively bankrupt.

"DUDE PARADISE LOST" is the last resort of a creator who has completely run out of things to reference in order to try and synthesize meaningful symbolism, and so just retreads the ground of every other uncreative hack for the past 300 years.
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>>151271404
the rest of the show>12>shit>11>10
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>shit penultimate episode that ruined the show
>masterpiece of a finale that artfully concludes the show in an unexpected way

How would you feel?
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>>151272651
FORESHADOWING
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>>151272556
1. Pokemon
2. Fune wo Amu
3. Flip Flappers (number one for the first 9 episodes)
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Their dresses gets lewder from mahou shoujo to mahou shoujo. Papika's outfit was already revealing, but Yayaka wears basically two stripes of clothing belted with a single string.
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>>151272744
I found the ending to be very underwhelming. It was still fun as hell though.
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>>151272756
I might as well qoute it. Its this one right?
>>151271733
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>>151272770
Send them a two-sided card. One should contain thanks and the other should contain bullying. They love meta things so they'd understand.
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>>151272556
>Does it still include Flip Flappers?
Not even.
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>>151272812
Pretty good, I'll barely remember next week what happened in today's episode anyway.
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>>151272830
It's a corset, anon.
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>>151272812
I'd flipflap my shit.
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>>151272556
Flip Flappers remains in my top 3.

Not because it's good, but because most of the other shows I've watched this season are worse.
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>>151272812
It would atone for this episode.
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>>151272795
What? This show has been pretty straight forward references to other works since the beginning.
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>>151272812
The show would be redeemed.
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>>151271820
>>151271959
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>>151272556
nope
flifla isn't even top 3 this season
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I'm still enjoying this a lot.
Even if people are shitting on how the show has handled its last stretch of episodes, Flip Flappers is still going to become a modern classic.

Look at Kaiba, pretty much everyone agrees that the best part is the episodic adventures part at the start of the show and that the ending is a mess, it's still remembered today.
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>>151271725

It was all a video game
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>>151272812
well it return from 9/10 to full 10
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>>151272100
This pleases my pectorials.
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>>151272725
This is a real production disaster:

Yuri on Ice finale credits: 5 storyboarders, 3+1+1 directors, 13 animation directors, 6 assistant designers, 66 explicitly named key animators (39+27 2nd) plus key animators from 13 companies who weren't properly credited

This is a real production disaster:

>Takashi Murakami's magical girl anime 6hp (six hearts princess). It is set to air on the 30th December as a 1 hour special on Tokyo MX but looks like it has been a production disaster.

>Murakami made a post on social media recently detailing that the show isn't finished at all and won't be finished in time, apologising to the staff involved. 140 cuts have no backgrounds, and there is unfinished animation and CG work to be done with a delivery date of 25th December. Apparently they will air it as just background layouts and line drawings.
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>>151272962
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>>151272812
I'd be conflicted.

Happy that it got a good ending? Yes.
Still upset about the last 3 eps ranging in quality from mediocre to garbage? Also yes.

Then I would pre-order the Papika figure and maybe even the BDs
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>>151272812
>shit penultimate episode that ruined the show
10 and 11 ruined the show. Also judging by the PV it's going to be a generic showdown. That's hardly a masterpiece.
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>>151272934
>ep 7
>C=P
>M emerges
>harmony is lost
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>>151272903
>do you treasure me cocona?
>as like friend yeah, a really good friend
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>>151272356
>>151272414
Yes, yes it was.
>>
But really the animation quality of the action scenes were far below what this show has done in the past.
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>>151272812
Once you jump the shark you're fucked.
I more than gladly will eat my words if I'm wrong, but I'm not expecting anything decent for the final episode.
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>>151272870
To be fair, it IS good. These past few episodes have been a let down but they don't stop the show overall from being exceptional.

I'd rate this season as a whole well above average. Most of the things I watched through to the end were the best shows I've watched all year, but none of them still really stand up in comparison to Flip Flappers. It was just too good, which is probably, inevitably why it simply couldn't sustain the transition from episodic format to concluding arc gracefully. It's a stumbling block that's compromised countless shows before and the worst part about seeing it happen again here is the fact that all of the misgivings I've had since episode 2 about the show being undermined in its final act ended up being true.
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>>151272834
I really loved the ending, for some reason. Magical Girl Kerry being trained by her one armed one eyed ninja sensei was just super fucking cool to me. My favorite ending this season so far, somehow.
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>>151271864
I was grinning like an idiot the whole way through, Yayaka's flip flapping is all i wanted. Everything after that was kind of a let down, the other two upgraded and now what? Super anticlimactic.
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>>151271215
Prime example as why you should never fucking ever pre-order original shows.
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>>151273024
Good job anon
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Guys, I fixed Yayaka's transformation sequence.
https://my.mixtape.moe/liaqfb.webm
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>>151272556
1. Bubuki Buranki
2. Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume
3. Shuumatsu no Izetta
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>>151272962
Flip Flappers action adventure game when?

Or fighting game?
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>>151272556
Unironic answer:
It's easily, by far number 1 this season. In fact it's top 3 this year along with Rakugo and Luluco.
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>>151273066
Good choices.
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>>151273065
Now do Popeye soundtrack on Buu.>>151271733
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>>151273066
>3. Shuumatsu no Izetta
And you were doing so well too.
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>>151273066
>Izetta

Fine, pls.
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>>151271725
Nyunyu and Bu-chan grow up to be best friends forever
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>>151273024
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>>151272812
What this guy >>151273039 said.

I'll be setting my bar low for the finale. And man, I wasn't expecting to say something like that a few weeks back.
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>>151272556
It was never in my top 3
Natsume
Time Bokan
Nyanbo!
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>>151271516
Really feeling that repost.
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>>151271733
>Bu gets some amazing new hardware
>suddenly UPDATES
Made me laugh.
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>>151273060
There just wasn't much buildup to snow white and ripples relationship up to that point, so it kinda felt somewhat hollow.
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>>151273180
>not the broomstick date

What the fuck are you doing, anon?
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The animation was only so rushed this episode because they needed to focus on the last episode instead... right?

>Preview is storyboards because last episode isn't even finished yet

Oh fuck, they really don't even have the last episode finished
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>>151272603
KanColle does it. In before
>Japanese naval salute isn't a proper salute
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>>151273171
>And man, I wasn't expecting to say something like that a few weeks back.

I know that feeling. They were doing so well for so long.
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>>151271807
>Been there, done that

What?! Where?
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>>151273180
Izetta died?
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>>151273065
>>151273061
She's the audience self insert, right?
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>>151273263
She got better
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>>151272356
Drawing Yayaka's leg completely would have been necessary indeed.
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>>151272556
>FliFlifa ep1-9
>Ping Pong Lesbians
>Mahou Shoujo Battle Royale
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>>151273079

Probably in 2018 on Mobile only.
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>yfw The time has come
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>>151273066
>sweaty cunt lesbian ping pong
Eh, no.
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>>151273136
>>151273142
>>151273222

>>151273263
Cripple in a wheel chair

I didn't care for that. I liked the soundtrack more.

>>>/wsg/1449919
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1481996016424.webm
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>>151272285
>Fire at Itoigawa, Niigata Prefecture, on Thursday after a Chinese restaurant caught fire
>spread to 140 homes/businesses
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>One side of Mimi wants to protect the daughter from all the danger and damage she always knew
>The other wants to give her the freedom she never had
You are all fucking fags this was great
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>>151272556
>Flip Flap
>MahoIku
>Yaoi on Ice
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>>151273312
And so have I
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>>151273066
End yourself.
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>>151273360
How's it feel having no standards, shit eater?
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>>151273333
I dropped Izetta somewhere around the halfway point, but I guess I'll pick it up again.
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This show should have been about Yayaka from the start. She's infinitely more interesting than the rest of the cast.
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>>151273408
You're the one pretending it's shit when you can't justify it.
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>>151273360
Nobody is bothered by that, but the execution.
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>>151273363
How can straight men actually enjoy Yuri On Ice?
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>>151271215
Well this has to be the disappointment of the year. Thanks for hyping this up for me, faggots.
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>>151273360
That idea is great. It was it's excecution that was a mess.
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Post your face when Salt breaks out a guitar and starts singing his song for Mimi
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Physician, heal thyself!

ahahahahahahaha
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>>151273394
Okay rate me now I updated my list
1. Bubuki Buranki
2. Heybot!
3. Soushin Shoujo Matoi
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These episodes were definitely weaker than the first 9 but I don't think it's catastrophic like some of you guys are making it out to be. It'll still be my top show since nothing else was this enjoyable this season.

On another note, are you all expecting a happy or bittersweet ending? It's definitely not going to be totally happy since Salt is about to pull some shit.
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>>151273363
You are the epitome of cancer
>>
GUESS WHO'S FUCKING BACK
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>>151273458
Who was this guy? Am I supposed to know who he was? Was he important? What's his name? Was he /ourguy/?
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All this yuri-fag butthurt and I'm just mad Cocona's raider harem didn't show up to save their bossu.
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>>151272812
The problem is that you can't do that. The finale cannot retroactively make the rushed, undeveloped plot suddenly become good. Sure, they could theoretically make the last episode 23 minutes of hot lesbian secks between all the girls in the cast and it would forever secure its place in the hall of fame, but that wouldn't redeem ep 10-12.
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>>151273474
Now I'm going to kill you.
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If the last episode isn't better I won't even bother buying the last BD and will just order the first 5
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>>151273424
You would just end up with Darker Than Black again.
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>>151273481
Expecting the bittersweet.
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>>151273495
He's one of the red dudes
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>>151272556
Yaoi on Fire
Sweaty Ping Pong Dykes
Izetta
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>>151273495
Salt's dad.
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>>151273481
Every sentiment, positive or negative is always more pronounced over time in these threads as they slowly become the "main" opinion of the fanbase.

That said I thought they definitely shit the bed in a lot of respects, but it's not nonredeemable if next week is really really good.
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>>151273508
Wait give me another chance!

1. WWW.Working (better than orginal)
2. All Out!!
3. Trickster
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>>151273529
Darker than Black was fantastic. I'd gladly take it.
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>>151273502
But it would redeem the show overall.
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>>151273543
Salt's dad was the guy in white.
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>>151273529
That's a ridiculously apt comparison.
It would indeed be kind of like that but with recurring characters.
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>>151273543
Salt's dad exploded near the end of episode 11. This guy was just a regular KKK member who didn't get entirely clover'd.
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This week's episode was all over the place, especially the sound design/sound direction. I still have hope for the finale but the series right now is easily the weakest it has ever been.
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>>151273424
I'll never not be mad they developed and made a side character more badass than either of the MCs. Sasuga Japan, ruiners of potential.
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>>151273495
He's literally a KKK red shirt
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>>151272055
Aside from the stupid sentence after mindbroken. That's a really great idea and would justify the shitty sudden saint seiya transformation resolution they had.
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>>151273563
Did you turn gay or something?
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What if the next episode previews were just rejected storyboard panels?
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I'M REALLY FEELING IT
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>>151273625
No. There are some good moments.
>>>/wsg/1446827
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>>151273590
The robots would be the equivalent of redshirts though
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>>151271336
Gunbuster's last episode was actually animated in color and converted to black and white, it was an intentional directorial choice in order to emphasize the scale and scope of the black hole bomb.
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>>151273563
>1. WWW.Working (better than orginal)

Eeeeeh? It was definitely good, and a pleasant departure from the sluggish pace of the first series, but I wouldn't say it's better. I thought they were about even. They've really learned how to actually draw in their audience a lot better with this one, though.
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>>151273541
THE Red Dude?
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>>151272671
>2. Keijo.
>3. Drifters.

This season was truly shit

Glad this is behind us now
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>>151273654
There were exactly 120 of them. I seriously doubt they were rejected.

They were deliberately played out of order, though. There's a few shots of clearly epilogue frames played early on and battle ones mixed throughout. There's even a few that are obviously meant to be shown sequentially, but are spread out in the preview sequence. Most of the storyboards are only onscreen for a single frame, too.

I'm working on compiling them all into a single image now. Of note is the fact that we see Papika de-age back to being a baby.
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>>151273723
No there were multiple red dudes
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>>151273731
Next season is worse.
>>
Flip Flappers is a shining example of the crass commercialization of television prohibiting the individuality of animators and artistic expression. The mechanical forcefed narrative and decided focus on character drama specifically has opened up the show's flaws more than ever. The characters are blank slates with little to no expressions or personality beyond being caricatures from the Precure franchise. The fantastical setting let the show shine through the effects/action animation while covering up the lacking character acting but that's been gone now since episode 10. The flow of events is so amateur, there is no impact or emotional weight behind anything that is happening right now but the creators aren't even aware of this. They actually believe they are exploring meaningful coming of age themes with these skeletal characters while in reality this is just a trite and generic sci-fi story, possibly the biggest disappointment of the year and an eternal mark of scorn on Oshiyama's career.
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>>151273711
Aho was the best. The original did drag on.
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>>151271215
The fast pace of this episode is just right after the increasingly moving build up of the previous episodes.

Also
>yayaka henshin
>PURE SPEED

Went on hyperdrive of roller-coasters and ended in a funny moment of pure impedance between cocona and papika vaulting the big monster away like a cartoon.

Pretty fucking hyped now for the next episode!
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>>151273723
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>>151273754
But he's the top Red Dude and probably the most important

He may be the final boss
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>>151273691
No.
The usual practice was to animate in color and convert to black and white.
What they did was to animate in full black and white as a choice, which turned out to cost a lot more than a regular episode would because of all the black ink they ended up needing.
So it was literally the opposite of "Gunbuster budget finale" people tend to cite.
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>>151273761
Not with LWA
>>
ONII-CHAN!
>>
Do you guys ever get tired and need a break at the end of a full season criticizing and bitching about minor things you feel 'ruin' an episode or show?
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>>151273785
He's dead anon
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>>151272185
>always considered salt's hand amorphous as an asspull
>rewatch this scene
Well shit.
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>>151273798
>reboot
>second OVA was mediocre at best
>shitposting galore
Okay.
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>>151273804
That's actually how we get energy. The time between seasons before there's anything to really have a meltdown over is essentially a famine.
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>>151273495
He was just a random KKK goon.

I find it annoying how completely irrelevant and pointless the KKK turned out to be. They play the antagonist role for most of the show, but they just seem to be a thin excuse for Yayaka to be a "bad guy" and then turn good. They achieved nothing, had no real motives for their actions and their boss was literally just a brain-damaged retard.
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>>151273812
He's only resting to build up his unlimited power
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>>151273789
Oh, I knew it was actually more expensive and not a budget cut thing, but I didn't know that was the reason why. I thought converting would be more expensive.
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>>151273836
Reboot here literally means that they're going spend the first three episodes showing the OVAs with fixes, so not really a reboot at all.
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>>151273804
Nope
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>>151273874
It's called red herring.
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>>151273887
>OVAs with fixes
But the first one is perfect, and it should never have had a sequel.
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>>151273731
Summer was worse. The only show that I enjoyed was Amanchu. At least now there's a few.
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>>151273874
I kinda like it. I've always been a fan of the "villainous organization summons an ancient evil and loses control, then the ancient evil is the new antagonist" thing.
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>>151273663
>he's still posting this webm everywhere he goes
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>>151273762
The weirdest thing is, in eps 1-9 characterisation was great, subtle yet pleasant. Even in the latest episode Yuyu and Toto's interaction is infinitely better made than that of main characters.
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>>151273798
Prepare to be massively disappointed. Flip Flappers episode 12 is nothing in comparison.
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>>151273804
the only way to get approval for n ending on /a/ is the way Yuri on Ice did it:

start good, then suck for 8 episodes, then have have an ending that is a bit better than the middle crap

people don't want good anime, they just want to feel that the ending's better than what they have gotten used to.
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>>151273770
Agreed
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>>151273933
Well at least it isn't Asuka drinking /u/ tears
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>>151272812
You can tell what the next ep is going to be like from the storyboards. There's no redemption in sight.
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>>151273920
I'm talking about shit like fixing animation errors and possibly re-ordering scenes to fit the TV series format better, not completely remaking them.
>>
PUNISHED YAYAKA
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>>151273983
>implying these aren't discarded storyboards from the early production stages
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>>151273874
What reason did they have to add in the Mimi garbage when they had perfectly fine final boss material with the KKK?
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>>151273958
>here, take this!
Good job Mimi. Mother of the fucking year.
>>
Anybody got stitches of SS Cocona from episode 1?
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>>151274001
Not him, but they did something like that with the final episode of Gatchaman CROWDS. The BD/DVD sets all had a director's cut with new material that actually explained what happened in the end.
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>>151274001
>animation errors
Are you one of those guys who gets autistic over the skirt mechanics?
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>>151273762
I bet this is a copypaste from off-site.

I still agree with it.
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>>151274025
>KKK
>perfectly fine final boss material
Anon please. The Mimi stuff wasn't "added" in, it was there since day 1.
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The ultimate henshin costumes aren't lewd enough at all.
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>>151273802
I wanted the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT so badly

https://comfy.moe/hnsepc.webm
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>Yayaka didn't name her henshin ability like Papika and Cocona did
Somewhat disappointed
I was so sure about Pure Breaker
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>>151273492
GUESS WHO MOTHERFUCKER BEST BOY HIDAKA STEP OVER
>>
>mutual love confession
>Cocona chose her own path
>Yayaka transformed
>Yayaka was cute
>explanation of how Papika de-aged is confirmed for the next episode

I don't get it. This is all that was wanted leading up to this episode, why are you shitposting about it?
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>>151274118
It's their wedding dress' anon. You don't get lewd at the wedding
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>>151274127
Still an awesome scene.
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>>151274127
Pure Bind would have been good too given her grappling hooks.

Or Pure Bomb.
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>>151274127
What was the name of today's episode?
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>>151274068
When you watch a show for its animation it makes sense to get upset when it gets subpar.
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>>151274127
Her weapon is her boots. It's probably Pure Speed.
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>>151273066
>1. Bubuki Buranki
Proof that a show can be somewhat "eh" at times, but can redeem itself with a really good ending.
Given the fact that BBK was never going to do well in sales or popularity, I'm pleasantly surprised by how they decided to go for the bittersweet /ss/ end.
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>Cocona's mom snaps her out of her funk for her

This is literally worse than if she broke out from the generic scenario of her two friends being tortured by the eldritch abomination.

>>151274127
needs a BD fix this shit is low detail
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>>151274190
Pure Disappointment.
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>>151274162
Chances of a romance end have dropped significantly. I still love it.
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>>151274190
Pure Howling
>>
Who here /pure tears/ about how bad this last episode was?
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Papika dies right? Or at least stays in PI.
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>>151274190
Pure Shit.
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>>151274206
>Yayakick wasn't just a meme
I love it
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>>151272997
Episodes 10 and 11 are pretty good though. Just a different flavor from the previous episodes. Man, you fags sometimes. Episode 12 is still shitty
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>>151274284
More like Pure Feeling.
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>>151274190
Purely Pointless Nyu
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>>151272934
>Cocona drinking game
Jesus.
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>>151274336
>Pointless Nyu
Oh she has a purpose alright.
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If this happens next week, would you approve it?
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>>151274244
There's absolutely nothing standing in the way of it. It's been made clear Papika loves Cocona for Cocona.
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>>151274320
Ep.12 was indeed shitty but it's still around twelve million times better than 10 and 11.

>pretty good
More like pretty fuck off.
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>>151274214
It was one of the worst in stalker. It was sad seeing it sunk all the way down there. Guess killing off characters on the last half was a bad move.
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>>151274320
How do you like 10 and 11 but hate 12? Is this some form of advanced retardation?
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>>151274379
>There's absolutely nothing standing in the way of it.
You can't fall in love with babies. It's silly.
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>>151274320
>episode 10 and 11
>good
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Wait, if EvilMimi was defeated what is Salt going to do with the giant cassette player now?
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>>151274427
14 year old amnesiac Papika fell in love with 14 year old Cocona.
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>>151274393
>Guess killing off characters on the last half was a bad move.
Truth be told, I don't think it was ever meant to be a best-seller. There was very little going for it in terms of being acceptable to a general audience. But I have a soft spot in my heart of cheesy mecha shows, and the animation style, while a bit jarring at first, actually grew on me. It wasn't great, mind you, but it was enjoyable.
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>>151271516
>mfw someone reposted my post for the sake of shitposting
What should I be feeling right now?
You should at least change the Mimi line because she wasn't defeated but at the time I made that post I only watched the raw on a blurry stream to make sense of what was happening in that scene
Watching with subs made it better slightly better but it's still a mess

Hoping for "it was all an illusion" bullshit, might save the ending
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>>151274378
Any ending involving Papicake would be a copout at best.
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>>151274378
It's better than the generic happy ending we are going to get regardless, so yes. But this is basically preferring shit to bloody diarrhea.
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>>151274400
Not him and I'm not really hating episode 12, but there wasn't much wrong with episode 10, it was just a calm flashback episode. Episode 11 had Mimi going nuts and the more dramatic flashback was linked well to the confrontation between Salt and Mimi. This episodes Mimi was pretty bland to be honest, they set her up as a villain pretty well in 11 but didn't go very far with it.
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H-HAYAI!
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>>151274506
She wasn't defeated you moron
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>>151274506
Sacrifice himself to destroy Pure Illusion once and for all.
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>>151274507
And then she remembered everything. Everything.
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>>151274506
Evil Mimi hasn't been defeated yet, you can see her in the preview.
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>>151274190
Pure Disillusionment
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All of the characters got a highlight this episode.

Good episode overall.
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>>151274378
Why would they suddenly lolis
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>>151274427
Papika fell in love with Cocona when she had no memories of Papikana. Cocona clearly doesn't care that Papika is older than she appears.
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>>151273836
The problem with LWA2 is that it's an awkward add-on to a finished and tightly expressed story and it is very obvious about it. LWA1 didn't need or ask for a sequel. By starting again, they can reconfigure things so that the series holds a sense of cohesiveness that the two OVAs don't have when considered together.

>>151273887
As far as I've heard, there's no reused footage from the OVAs in LWA TV. The first three episodes are totally different.

>>151274206
More like Pure Sex.
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>>151274590
That doesn't mean the love is undone
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Can any Nip-speaking Anon confirm that "howling" is a loanword for feedback in Japanese?
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>>151274590
So what? She isn't Papikana anymore, even if she remembers, she's Papika.
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>>151274427
As much as I would love to root for a yuri ending between them, Papi's line about "I've loved you ever since you were born" was indeed concerning.
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Sayuri kind of looks like Cocona and Mimi
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>>151274635
Maybe but it gives you a different point of view when you remember your past experiences. Would you honestly feel fine loving a person while remembering how she kicked in her mother's stomach? It's not romantic anymore.

>>151274711
Yeah, pretty much. This won't go anywhere.
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>>151274400
I don't hate it but it's shitty. The Yayaka henshin, her overall parts, and Salt's travel to the box was pretty great. I also love the new henshin designs. But the animation, good!mimi's sudden appearance, the way Cocona's character issues were resolved, and sudden resolution out of nowhere from hand holding were horrible. I felt like episodes 10 and 11 buildup may please a select few people but some of those people were not pleased with episode 12 results. I still like the show overall though from the mysterious episodic plot to the concluding arc. It helps that I like Salt a lot after all the shit he had to put up with. I just hope a good ending comes out of this.
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>>151274752
If I was a manic pixie dream dog girl with ADHD, maybe
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>don't think, just feel

Never trust any storyteller that says this.
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>>151274752
Papika new memories override her old ones, she's too simple minded to care about that, if she's in romantic love, she'll stay like that.
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>>151274790
Oshiyama is a hackfraud!
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Episode 10 got people mad because of plot developments, but it still mantained a certain standard of quality the show had been keeping (it was nowhere near the best stuf, but at least around 4 or 7 levels).

11 and 12 just have all the telltale signs of being rushed to hell I'd say.
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Spin-off about these two going on adventures when?
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Dude
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What's Japan's reaction to this ep?
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>>151274553
You don't understand, every episode had to be an adventure in pure illusion otherwise it was shit. Also this show was supposed to super edgy and deep but now it's like the writters were trying to tell a story about two girls who DAI DAI DAISUKE each other. FUCK THE WRITER CHANGE. Also I hate yuri, It reminds me of how insecure I am about my own sexuality.
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>>151274851
Someone usually posts 2ch reactions. In due time, anon.
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>>151274815
True enough. I didn't like the direction of episode 10, but I still believed they could someone pull the plot together to have a satisfying ending to the story they wanted to tell. Now it's pretty much confirmed we are getting a rushed as hell generic happy ending. I bet they'll be so short on time the ED has to play over the characters having a conversation.
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>>151274803
>Papika new memories override her old ones
Not when the memory of her promise to Mimi was so important to her she became a husk when Mimi rewrote it, webm related. >>151271691

Also her "loving Cocona from the day she was born" shows that it's not romantic. Again, you can't seriously love babies in that way.
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>>151273924
>>151273914
That sort of thing doesn't work as well when we barely see or know anything about the KKK. Them getting rekt is borderline meaningless because they're just "there" all of the time.. And Mimi being boring as fuck doesn't help.
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>>151274553
>This episodes Mimi was pretty bland to be honest
How so? I feel like they did the spooky overprotective mother thing pretty well.
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>>151274911
You don't understand that Cocona has no idea of old Papika, and they transformed at the end when the zero impedance happened, because both feel the same. In Cocona's eyes, Papika's love is romantic, so it is because the transformation worked.
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>>151274818
Only with the twins as villains.
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>>151274970
It's not even Mimi. It's her shitty dark side plot convenient persona.
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>>151273958
>I have a baby now!?
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>>151274842
Balls deep
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>>151274911
I'm hoping against hope that the little scene with Papika in the tree cage will be expanded upon with something interesting. Like, what if Mimi de-aged and memory-wiped Papika when Papika jumped into PI with Mimi and baby Cocona, and then CocoPapi grew up together in PI until they were removed (potentially by KKK and/or Flip Flap). Still wouldn't explain bust-chan, but a man can dream.
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>>151275007
damn...papika and loli cocona...
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>>151274982
She didn't felt as powerful as I imagined her. Could be an effect of her summoning the PI monsters, not being the one they fight against. Maybe next episode will change that.
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>>151275085
>Still wouldn't explain bust-chan
She was a failed attempt at a PI partner, what is there to explain
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>>151275007
Looks like the scene from the OP. Is that Mimi or Cocona?
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>>151275125
cocona. the girl has short hair.
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>>151272316
Well if you saw all the preview frames thats the whole episode.
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>>151274378
I'll be okay with that, but will Papika just remain single until she become a crazy cat lady?
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>take evangelion
>shove it into the same format as madoka
>make /a/ explode
>????
>don't profit because western viewers don't buy BDs
what did they mean by this
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>>151275220
Why are you here again?
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>>151275220
They wanted to see if we could feel the writer change.
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>>151274613
They can fix the timeline with the doors inside Pure Illusion. If they didn't then it'd just end up being a huge red herring.
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>>151275187
Where's this from? Twitter?
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>>151275220
>>don't profit because western viewers don't buy BDs
B-But I'm buying them
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>>151275187
this is the kind of flashback that would work much better BEFORE the super ultra final form zero impedance henshin rather than telling us in retrospect
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>>151275308
Are you feeling it yet?
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>>151275281
Can someone explain this to me? I just caught up yesterday.
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>>151275305
From the end of the episode preview.
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Yayaka is going to be a great best man at the wedding
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>>151275380
It's a shitty meme some retard pushed in a thread after the writer changed.
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Why did Mimi allow Yayaka and Papika to transform?
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>>151275441
Because the plot demanded it.
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Why are the magical girl outfits in this show so shitty? The background visuals are great but the character and clothing designs are just so mediocre and don't really correlate.
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***,732位/***,733位 (***,588 pt) [*,*12予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [Blu-ray]

Japan sure liked the episode. It's in its highest position in a long time.
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>>151275441
Because EvilMimi is sadistic and wanted them to think they had a chance.
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>Papika STILL hasn't done anything good to compete with the best girl Yayaka
>mfw next week she permanently disappears along with Pure Illusion
Get those tissues ready, my friends.
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>>151275471
>Japs ignore the show when it's good
>Japs love the show when it's bad
Further proving Japan has shit taste.
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>>151275513
But I liked this episode too.
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Can we all agree Flip Flappers is the trainwreck of Christmas?
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>>151275507
Why are Yayaka fags so mean
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>>151271215
This is one of those cases where the conflicts withing the plot are exposed for the views and not for the characters concerned.
Cocona continues incoherent as ever.
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>>151275438
It is indeed shit. But that's a shame about the writer change, I had no idea but I knew something was off around ep 10.
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>>151272461
They already went full Evangelion.

Flip Flappers #12: Pure Fuck-up.

They could've turn those plot lines to meta-jokes before, but with current amounts of INFODUMP, DRAMA, and CLEAR CONFLICT BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, I doubt there is a talent to pull that off.

Who told them to get to “conclusion” if they never aimed at casual crowd? There was no problem in vagueness, and if they just found some theme to connect everything, that would be enough.

There is 0.01% chance they were consciously parodying regular Mamoru Tasukete The Show, but it looks like we are going to have DRAMATIC almost-sacrifice by Salt, who is stopped, but then explains something, and departs to another life with Mimi, while everyone else is happy together.
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>>151275513
At some point, you should reevaluate your own tastes.
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>>151275547
Absolutely. Holidays ruined.
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>>151275507
>implying she won't turn back to Papicake and give Yayaka her blessing to date her new daughteru
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>>151275547
Yes.
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>>151275471
I don't believe you
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>>151275471
How is that good
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>>151275547
Final episode will be long after Christmas.
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>>151275543
Yeah it was a great episode.
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>>148560127
RING RING
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>>151275547
I cancelled Christmas because of it.
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How do fix this episode in particular?
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>>151275388
So, >>151275085 seems more-or-less on the right track.
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>>151275585
Relative to itself its the best ranking it has had in a long time.
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Would you let your daughter play with Papika? Do you think she'd be a good role model?
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>>151275549
Cocona is basically a non-character. Her conflict is nonexistant unless demanded by the plot. They didn't even bother to put in a coming of age backdrop or something coherent.
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>>151275594
Didn't you get the memo? You can't like the episode because a couple faggots here think it was bad.
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>>151275513
>Japs love the show
Not really.
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Does she want the S?
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>>151275633
Best role model ever.
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>flip-flop is going to flip-fopping
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I got the feels real bad here
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>>151275564
Reminder that this was all planned way before. Even as you were watching those awesome early eps this inevitable "conclusion" was waiting on the shelf, bound in neat volumes titled ten through thirteen.
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>>151275615
>Make it so that Cocona has actual agency when making the decision to save her friends
>Cocona, Papika, Yayaka triple hensin
>Make Nyunyu relevant somehow
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12 episodes and I still don't understand what Pure Illusion is.
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>>151275688
She's a cat person. Salt just made her doki doki because he'd never been that close.
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> baawww!!!! Why would they ruin our happy-go-lucky cute girls doing cute things show with shit like "plot"!!!!! I don't want plot in my animu!!!! Who in the world watch animu for plot????? Animu is for cute girls doing cute things, not plot!!!
Literally this entire thread.
...and people complain that "animu is dead"... I really wonder why...
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I took the liberty of compiling the entirety of the preview, frame by frame, into a single image grid.

There are 120 different frames of storyboard pages. The image is obviously too large to post so I just uploaded it to link here. It's organized in order of appearance horizontally, 10 frames per row for 12 rows. Since the colours were obviously inverted, I also made a second version with the colours de-inerted.

Normal:
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De-inverted:
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>>151275703
They are on the run so that means they are probably outside the small town.

So is this some abandoned factory or remnants of a warzone/catastrophe?
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>>151275688
Want it? She could feel it.
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>>151275713
She did have "actual agency".
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>>151275703
Would you find a decent crack for windows already.
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>>151275615
You make two episodes out of it by shoving 10 and 11 in one big flashback.
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>>151275615
Nothing, it was fine.

I'm convinced by the current state of /a/ this influx of shitposting comes mostly from shippers and anti-shippers trying to blame the show for their asspain.
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>>151275704
There really was no reason to ruin those moments this much anon. I hope you are happy and that your heart shrunk 3 sizes.
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>Salt is definitely dying in the next episode
Who thought it was a good idea to put this screens in the preview? Unless we get a reset and everyone is alive again
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>>151275713
>triple henshin
The point of the henshin is that Cocona and Papika feel the same for each other, Yayaka doesn't fit.
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This frame doesn't look too fun.
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>>151275759
Careful, you are going to upset the man children
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>>151275703
ACTIVATE WINDOWS ALREADY
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>>151275759
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>>151275547
Fool. This was predicted.

Now all that's left is for Flip Flappers to save New Year's.
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>>151275633
having a daughter would require sex, but in the off chance of course. I would want my daughter to experience pure love rather then sleeping with some dirty boy
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>>151275773
Noice. Thanks, anon.
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>>151275703
You said you activated it, LIAR
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>>151275791
I think you hit the nail on the head
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>>151275759
>namefag
>typing like a retard
>...
>also shit opinions
Kill yourself.
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>>151275773
The PV was a mistake.
They probably spoiled the whole episode.
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>>151272934
I really doubt you should use this type of graph for the data. The episodes are discrete, there is nothing in-between them, and there is no predicted value there.
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>>151275615
All the stuff up to the flashback/Papika mindbreak scene was fine, barring that one part with the motorcycle. Just cut out the last third of the episode and replace it with something else. Even a generic flashy fight scene would be better.
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>>151275860
>>151275822
>>151275783
THE MESSAGE DISSAPEARS AND APPEARS ONCE IN A WHILE I NDONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON
>Let me fucking have this onw
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>>151275832
But Papika would be your age. How is that pure? It's predatory if anything.
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>>151275865
Hey guys, look at me! I told someone to kill themselves. HAHAHA! Do I fit in yet??
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Hey, /a/. Remember when people here thought this show is FLCL with lesbians? Or, when people came up with implicit storytelling and all that nonsense to praise the non-existent plot and cookie-cutter characters? Where did this people go? Who's the one laughing now?
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>>151275704
>>151275759
10 and 11 where still good. The animation was certainly lacking compared to earlier episodes, but what happened on screen did have impact.
12 was just "muh power of friendship" vs "bad Mimi is bad" shit. Completely bland and sterile in my book.
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>>151275773
200% hype
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>>151275894
The last part was great it had tons of emotional pay off that was really well executed, felt earned and fulfilled the shows themes perfectly.
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>>151275908
I am pretty sure Papicake is younger then me by a few years. Regardless its cute and innocent not predatory. What is wrong with grooming your daughter and your friend to be lovers?
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The writer change is a meme.
The director still oversees the whole project, a change like that wouldn't ruin the show. This was planned from the beginning.
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>>151274507
Except that’s not what she said, and that makes it retarded.
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>>151275759
As someone who thought this episode was great, you're an idiot.
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>>151275975
>Yuniko:"I literally have no fucking idea what will happen next"
>show starts sucking ass right after that
Meme magic.
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>>151275868
I wouldn't say that. Most of those shots are still just vague sketches.

Except for Yayaka sitting in DESPAIR
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BUT
BUT WHO WAS THE BUST (ANOTHER)?
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>>151275703
Just install Linux already.
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>>151275977
She said "dai dai daisuki" since ep3, when was amnesiac.
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>>151275939
>implicit storytelling and all that nonsense
That was actually the case. Hence why everybody always says all the reveals were well foreshadowed, the unhappy people just don't like the direction and the execution of the last few episodes.
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>>151276031
Yes, but now she’s suddenly been loving her since she was a toddler.
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>>151273444
By keeping in mind yaoi has very little to do with homosexual relationships, and is actually a metaphor for most traditional heterosexual romance & hardships.

Also, it's still a good spokon.
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>>151275975
Of course it is meme but we are on /a/ where people will genuinely blame this episodes worse looking scenes on budget.
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>>151276054
That's Papikana talking, doesn't change what Papika feels.
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>>151276008
>The director tells the writer just what he needs to write
Wow, how unexpected, right?
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>>151275759
>9 episodes without any overarching exposition
>makes itself out to be arthouse eyecandy that might have a trick ending
>instead spends less than 1/3rd of the show infodumping a huge backstory with dark themes
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>>151275959
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>>151276075
Papika is dead. Long live Papikana.
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>>151276088
>No exposition
Do you seriously believe that?
Do you really think they spent 9 episodes gathering shards just because?
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>>151276088
>without any overarching exposition
False.
>makes itself out to be arthouse
False.
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>hand holding used all season to lower impedance and allow travel between worlds
>even used by Mimi and Papikana
>Mimi knew there was a chance of her daughter becoming close to Papikana, touching hands, and accidentally slipping out of Pure Illusion
>good Mimi age reverses Papikana to make this more likely and give her daughter a gate to freedom
>evil Mimi couldn't bring herself to kill her lolified friend, so locked her away in a tree
Also, the childhood friend will technically win the Coconabowl
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>>151276133
Wait nigger, why is Cocona wearing Mimi's clothes?
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>>151275699
Poor anon. Nobody bites the bait anymore.
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>>151276133
The storyboards show a timelapse of Papika de-aging while the shadows of the dicktree's cage bars are cast over her.

She reverse-aged while trapped inside the tree.
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>>151276128
There was little to no foreshadowing as to any of the events which occured in episode 10 onwards.
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>>151276165
Not him, but Mimi put Cocona in her dress as soon as she got her in the boat again last episode.
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>>151276165
Mimi even tried to dress up teenage Cocona in her frilly dresses.
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>>151275888
Reasons.

I only just remembered that there is a didgeridoo in the soundtrack when they go to PI for the first time. Wonder if it's the same one that Oshiyama used.
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>>151275975
The director overseeing everything does not mean he does everything himself, retard, he doesn’t have the time for that. Work getting delegated to other people inherently has their personal mark on it.
There are good episode directors and bad episode directors, there are good animators and bad animators, there are good writers and there are bad writers. It is noticeable when the staff for an episode or even just a single scene is suddenly much worse than previously. Or better. (The sakuga meme)
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>>151276133
>the childhood friend will technically win the Coconabowl
More like surrogate parent.
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So what was even the purpose of the enemies/KKK regarding the plot? All we know is that they wanted Mimi and that PI shit for whatever reason and that's it. They weren't even a threat or anything, Mimi just wrecked everything as soon as she appeared and that's it. And will we ever learn more about senpai?
The whole thing feels like they had two or three different plots in mind and couldn't decide what they want.
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>>151276183
>This is what people actually believe
No wonder the thread is full of nonsensical posts.
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>>151276183
>There was little to no foreshadowing as to any of the events which occured in episode 10 onwards.
You can't honestly believe that.
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>>151276212
No.
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>>151275773
Good work. Now should I actually look at it or not...
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>>151276211
The thing is though, individual writers might be writing individual lines but they aren't just making up their own story. They are going to be writing the story they agreed with the director and the final script will be approved by the director.
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>>151276219
Salt's dad was running the KKK and gathering shards so he could combine PI and reality to become a god.
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>>151276227
Yes.
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>>151276219
You've got a point regarfing KKK, but in case of Iroha everything is resolved in a good way
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>>151274166
i think you shouldn't look for amateur wedding porn on the internet.
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>>151276183
Oh boy. Nah, everything was foreshadowed, which is why these threads went as far as finding episode 10 predictable.
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A FUCKING FISTBUMP
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>>151275939
The main plot points are being told explicitly in the latter half to leave no child behind. Secondary plots and themes are still being told implicitly, such as Papika's choice.
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>>151275471
It has now moved up into the 600s.

If it keeps going up like this it will break its all time highest rank after this episode.
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>>151276323
>long hair Cocona
uh oh
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>>151276262
No, they are very much involved in the creation of the story. They get to pitch ideas to the director, and since it’s their fucking job to have nice ideas, you definitely can blame the writer when those are missing. Unless you know for sure that the writer did have a ton of amazing ideas and the director just blocked all of them, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.
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>>151276323
Wait, hold the fuck up again nigger. Why is Mimi now wearing Cocona's clothes?
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>>151275816
It's called menstruation.
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>>151272934
>episode 12 is the highest point for Cocona but the curve still goes higher and then goes down
Delete this or face death.
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>>151276311
It foreshadows the fisting in the next episode.
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>>151276311
RIGHT?!
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>>151276311
I'd fistbump my girlfriend after mutually declaring love and blowing up Eva-01 too.
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>>151276323
She is laying in the lake like the painting in the fucking school!

It all comes together.
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>>151276323
We back to being Ophelia now?
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You may like it or not, but some of you overreact for sure. I expected more disastrous things.
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>>151276364
This isn't Vivid Strike anon.
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>>151276352
I think it's supposed to be Papika. Note the leg bracelet in the top image.
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Wow, this ended up being fucking shit. Worst anime of the season for me.
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>>151276296
The Iroha episode brings up the red portals, but the only time that's ever revisited is in the flashback where Salt's dad goes crazy.
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>>151276219
The KKK wanted to use Mimi for their evil plot.
Salt was gathering shards to bring Mimi back in a peaceful manner.
The KKK gathered them but their leader is a nutjob who didn't expect Mimi to wreck their shit up again just like she did last time.
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>>151276410
Shit nigga, good eye.
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>>151276344
>involved
There is the key point. There are script meetings. They are writing the directors story not their own. Case in point the writer that left said her idea for episode 8 got rejected and they did something else instead. Writers don't just "decide" their episodes or stories they are writing to fit into the directors vision and the director decides what if anything they come up with will make it into the show. You can't get around that in any way.
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>>151276165
Because those are the only clothes pre-KKK ever gave her.
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I'm not going to pretend I didn't pop a boner when Mimi skullfucked Papika
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>>151276384
Does someone else have a gun?
This could end up fun.
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>>151276352
I don't think she is. They just put some pleats in her skirt, but otherwise look at the sleeves.
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>>151276406
Could you elaborate on what you expected? I would love to see this episode in a positive light.
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>>151275703
FUCK, THEY WERE INSIDE THE HIDAKA'S COMPUTER THE WHOLE TIME???

Good catch, anon.
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This is my review after episode 5 aired: >>149363540
It's nice not being deluded at the time when everyone else was, including sakuga blogs. Proof that Sakuga community doesn't know what they're talking about outside of basic animating techniques and name-dropping in order to sound elitye.
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Flip Flappers es lo mejor que me pudo pasar en la vida
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>salt is kill
Please, no.
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>>151276518
Your opinion was shit then and its shit now.
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>>151276495
FUCKING DELET THIS
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Daddy-daughter team up?
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>>151276576
That's Mimi you blind rat.
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>>151276423
And this ep where Salt goes looking for Elpis.
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>>151276522
Agustino peregrino
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>>151276408
Of course not, Flip Flappers isn't a complete travesty (yet).
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New OTP, bu-chan and Sayuri
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>>151274506
Play Cocona a song
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>>151276550
But he isnt anon, he has a harem now
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>>151276522
>>151276665
I don't speak Mexican.
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>>151276488
Yeah, that was pretty hot. Too bad they glossed over it in like a second and it didn't have any persisting significance just like half of the shit that happened in this ep.
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Not a very good episode imo, but the preview images look really interesting and might save the ending.
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>>151276677
I'm betting FF won't have a gayer ending than VS.
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>>151276684
Pretty sure that's NyuNyu
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>>151276451
Nigga, you could say the same thing about every fucking person involved in making the anime. Here, look at this.

>The thing is though, individual episode directors might be overseeing individual episodes but they aren't just making up their own episodes. They are going to be creating the episodes they agreed with the director and the final episode will be approved by the director.

>The thing is though, individual animators might be creating individual cuts of animation but they aren't just making up their own animation. They are going to be creating the cuts in the storyboards the director signed off on in the style agreed with with the director and animation director and the final cut will be approved by both.

Everyone technically just makes what the director wants, from the composer to the lowest inbetweener. If you think that means no one else matters, might as well remove all other names from the credits. But in reality everyone matters, because the director’s role is for the most part to keep the overall quality in check and direct some high level concepts, not much more.
He can reject bad cuts, he might even animate some himself, but he can’t magically produce lots of good animation out of thin air without the necessary talented staff. He can reject bad storyboards, he can do some himself, he can correct others in bits and places, but he cannot storyboard the whole show and is dependent on having good storyboarders. The same goes for writing.
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>>151276757
It will have that while also not being complete fucking garbage.
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>>151276799
Relax nigga we're getting the third movie.
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>>151276770
But Nyunyu has two twintails not one twintail
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>>151276749
I feel the same. If I could give 3Hz my energy for one final spirit bomb of a finale, I would raise my hands or the entire next week.
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>>151275759
You have an enormously shit taste if that's the kind of plot you expect from your anime.
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>>151276841
Talk to me about it when it makes everything after A's non-canon. Otherwise, fuck off to your containment thread.
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>>151272556
Won't mention because fanbase wars are annoying. FlipFlap was actually among my top three till episode 9.
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>>151276870
>muh lolis
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>>151276853
Yeah, but for these skethces it looks like they just draw her with one. There's another sketch of a girl with the same hair carrying Nyu's donut.
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>>151276776
You really are missing the point though. Just like an episode director is animating to storyboards a writer is going to be writing to the directors vision. They aren't literally making up whatever they want to so the story itself wasn't going to change just because of a writer, the idea would have always been there and the plot would have followed the same major points and that was the claim of the post you initially responded to. The texture or execution may very well have changed though. Just like storyboards determine animation, individual animators aren't just animating whatever they want that is already decided for them, although they might get some input on how exactly they do it. Just like how writers may have input on how the story is told but the director is likely to already have an overall vision for it they are working within.
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>>151276904
It has nothing to do with lolis and everything to do with nu-Nanoha being piss.

They should take the time to retcon all of that garbage out of existence and start over with a brand new A's 2.
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>>151272367
>spurdo Salt
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>>151276933
>They aren't literally making up whatever they want to so the story itself wasn't going to change just because of a writer, the idea would have always been there
No it would not. You said yourself that the writer’s proposal for 8 got rejected, that implies that she also made proposals for her previous episodes. Those proposals would have been very different had they come from an entirely different person.

You vastly overestimate director vision. It’s very rarely set in stone and the whole point of the creative process is to improve the final product by taking the best work of a lot of different people.
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>>151271215
These threads are moving way too fast.
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>>151273003
The real meaning of Impedance
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>>151277114
Holy shit, we are arguing over nothing. The writer that did 5 episodes was in the planning meetings up until the end. Of course people are coming up with ideas and giving them to the director but the director is going to know what they want to do with their own series.
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>>151271360
It's the best show this year
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>>151276713
Senior Yayako la seniorita Cocona es mia
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>>151272808
6>5>3=8>12=9>11=2=1> 7>4 >10
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>>151277202
>cake
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>>151277189
Knowing what you want to do does not even remotely mean it will come out well, and that’s what this was about. Some ideas are simply better than others.
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Show should just have ended when deus ex spezial snowflake defence mechanism Mimi casted the ruby shit on them.
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>>151277237
Fucking, where to start even.
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>>151271427

>Gunbuster was black and white because of budget and time constraints

ABSOLUTELY NOT who spreads this shit?

>>151273691
>>151273789
>>151273884

This and no one had done it before.
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What's with some directors being unable to properly end a story?
It's as if, they can do everything well, but by the end they just go "time to go full retard" and series that were once promising ended rather poorly.

This episode felt as if it was directed by Zack Snyder, just with less edge.
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>>151277263
The guy was stating that the outcome of the show was planned from the beginning. He is right, the writer changing wouldn't have changed the whole show. It may have changed how parts were done and the way they felt as parts and the execution, but the major plot points? I would bet anything those were already planned. For example episode 8 was supposed to be Zombies if the writer that left go their way instead of Future Tech city. That really doesn't change a lot but the setting.
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>>151277371
What’s a big change if going from Zombies to SciFi isn’t one? Flip Flappers doesn’t even have a lot of major plot points in the first place. Here be Mimi, here be some NGE stuff, that’s probably it as far as the original plan is concerned.
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>>151277351
I just don't know man, it must be their cultural vision of a climax or something.
I swear, one day I'm going to destroy Japan for that and that alone.
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>>151277351
They're like ants. Because nobody made a satisfying ending nobody tries to achieve it.
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>>151277436
That isn't major in the context of the entire story in a setting that changes sometimes multiple times an episode. A big change would be making Papika actually Salts child or something.
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>>151277484
>Because nobody made a satisfying ending
>Madoka
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>>151277559
>rebellion
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>>151277559
Rebellion was great but anime ending can go ride a sweaty chode.
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>>151277441
>>151277484
I don't think it's cultural, since Japanese movie directors can do a fine job. Even directors of proper TV series can.

This issue is mostly limited to anime.

My guess is most of these guys are probably just amateurs.
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>>151277351
I never understood until I actually started studying Japanese literature. Their heritage is full of this kind of stuff, all the way back to when the novel first emerged as a form for them.

Basically long, drawn out or extended narratives tend to fall apart because they pull on a lot of writing traditions that frankly just suck, but which characterized longer narratives in their culture. Shit like two characters having an incidental meeting, but there being an underlying story that makes the encounter 'fated' because of some metaphysical past relationship neither character is immediately aware, but which overtakes the story at the end to deliver a payoff that seems to completely undermine the story prior, is a major trope.

A lot of the shit that tends to damn japanese writing are tropes from their literature that just don't translate well (and weren't any good in the first place). A lot of time they have buddhist or shinto spiritual allegory or are straight-up adaptations of mythology that really has absolutely no place in the story they're telling. It's like these archetypes get drawn upon by writers without fully understanding what the archetype is doing or where it comes from. It's like when you see a western writer make an apple/snake/eden allegory and completely fuck it up because they've never read Genesis or Paradise Lost and are just parroting iconography they saw on the television.
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>>151277609
Got to love an armchair expert.
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>>151277628
Looks like a girl.
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>>151277499
That’s part of the rather thin original vision, yes. I just don’t think that matters a lot. Just about the only event on that level that I’ve read people complaining about was Papika being essentially Cocona’s aunt. Everything else (muh flashbacks) is rather technical and can indeed be attributed to a writer change.
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>>151277597
>having a completely backwards opinion
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>>151277694
Bite me.
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>>151277646
>It's like when you see a western writer make an apple/snake/eden allegory and completely fuck it up because they've never read Genesis or Paradise Lost and are just parroting iconography they saw on the television.
That sounds familiar enough that this probably isn’t just a Japanese phenomenon.
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>>151277666
No these are the things that actually are the core of the story, the relationships of the characters and feelings etc. Changing those is major. The ideas from individual writers would have been coming in with things like "the PI this week should be cool thing X and we can link it to these plot points that need to go through this episode of the story according to the general plan".
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>>151274118
Now imagine they both age up in the end and those cute heart cutouts are suddenly filled with delicious cleavage
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>>151277774
Now we're talking.
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>>151277774
My dream scenario is Salt and Mimi going in PI, Papika aging up and adopting Coconuts and Yayaka.
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>>151277651
Never claimed any expertise, which is why I never made any definite statements.

But I guess you're too retarded to read properky.
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>>151274790
I trust my feelings though
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>>151277748
I was referring specifically to western writers there.

The problem with Japanese writers isn't that they take an allegory or an image and imitate it poorly, it's that they take an entire narrative form, an entire structure and way of framing their story and misuse it. The 3rd act is consistently a mess because they're pulling from narrative traditions that do things in the 3rd act which simply don't work in what they're now trying to apply them to.
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>>151277832
And my feelings are upset because they changed the writer.
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>>151277755
>No these are the things that actually are the core of the story, the relationships of the characters and feelings etc.
You might think that, and in fact a lot of people do. I don’t. I care much more about the specifics of execution than obvious major events, and that’s precisely my criticism with the last few episodes. Not what is being told, rather how it’s being told. I have no problem with the events, maybe with the exception of Papika being so old, but with the right execution I’d learn to love that too.
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>>151271493
I hope they rework this part for the BD version.
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>>151278058
I hope they release a BD version thay isn't 2 episodes per disc
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YYK deserves happiness.
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>>151278032
I'm not arguing about that just defining terms. You can care about whatever you like, that isn't changing the fact that there was a well defined concept overarching for the plot that all the writers would have had to adhere to and that all of their writing and the staff choice would have been approved by the director.
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>>151277830
Ignore him.
Back to my armchair. I'm not sure if it's not indeed cultural.
Japanese fiction and especially animation is more aimed at a BANG, EPIC MOMENT who even cares about the "garnish" (wish I could make that text smaller), instead of total suspense with all lashes tied up.

Also many of the more revered filmwriters are westaboos or atleast versed in western ways, which is prevalent, art of filmmaking, don't forget that.
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