Today's the day a whole bunch of shows go on sale, so let's

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>>151243102
>flip flappers still flip flopping

>>151243102
Let's not fucking care about R2 disc sales we have little to no influence over and reason to care about and claim we did. Sounds like time far better spent

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>>151243102
>>Udon no Kuni - 1038

>>151243102
IBO though. Thats rough.

>>151243617
It doesn't come out until 2/24/2017.

>>151243835
Oh. That makes sense then. I'm autistic and thought these were predictions.

>>151243102
>>Utapri - 5240

Wow

>>151244737
You know it'll easily make 30k

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>>151243102
Love wins.

Well, I am glad to see AOTS get a worthy position. Very said about Bernard though. I guess they need less sales to break even with it, but it still deserves more love.

How do fujos have so much disposable income?

>SB69 flopped that hard
I was disappointed too, but these numbers don't bode well for another season to try again.

Maybe a Shiganz spin-off will happen.

>>151245248
Its a recent phenomena thats probably just the population of nip fujos is growing.

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Drifters actually sold okay? I'm pleasantly surprised.

>>151245327
Drifters looks like its going to sell great! Dont let YoI and Hanbru fool you, 10k is amazing.

Will we see Yuri on Ice season two before Re: Zero season two?

>>151245403
Probably.

>>151245403
Sayo Yamaoto takes four years between each of her series, YoI 2 won't come out until 2020

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>>151247716
Highly unlikely since YOI went from idea to anime in less than a year.

>>151245327
>>151245365

Drifters is expected to sell around 15k. A pretty good number indeed. Sadly s2 never cause Hirano's laziness.

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Imagine how great anime would be if shows like Flip Flappers were commercially viable

>>151243102
I hope Vivid Strike does well.

>>151248657
this.

>>151248284
Drifters is definately not expected to sell 15k. Its at 9k, not in the top 100, and is a week away from release.

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>>151243102
>>All out - 338

>>151243102
>Long Riders - 1571
It did better than I thought.

>>151243102
I can't believe that YOI is saved anime.

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>>151250897
It's definitely opened up some more doors.

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>>151243102
I finish Idol Memories today, i'm surprised it sold more than 10 copies

>Flip Flappers
>It actually Flops

>>151243102
>Flip Flappers - 1136
JUST

>>151243102
Stalker threads get better closer to release because there is less dumb speculation though its almost pointless to have them because we'll just have sales in a week.

I'm not watching anything in the top 12.
What a coincidence.

>>151252467
I said nothing of western fujos. Its nip fujos that are growing. (Western fujos could also be growing. No way to track that either way.)

YOI is going to do what K-ON did.

The industry is learning that men don't have any money.

>Yuri on Ice - 24595

I know it's a dead horse at this point, but can we just reiterate that Nips have the worst taste in anime?

Hows that 5k YoI average looking now? Dumbasses. I'm glad to see Drifters doing well at least. Girlish number doesn't deserve the flop though.

>>151252664
Sure ESL-kun

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>>151243102
>>Yuri on Ice - 24595
oh christ this is going to cause a flood of fujoshit isn't it

>>151252700
faggots on ice is overestimated, will struggle to sell 10k

>>151252791
>fujoshit which almost always has a 25-100% underestimation will be massively overestimated
Can you imagine being this retarded?

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>>151252791

>>151252526
someone sounds mad their favorite shows are flopping. YOI was decent enough to me but it's been pretty impactful both with anime and outside of it so i give respect where it's due

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>>151252526
Stay angry anon, it's delicious.
I didn't say it 'saved anime', I said it opened doors, which it did in droves. People who've never look twice at an anime that wasn't a Ghibli movie were willing to give this series a chance. Demographics are shifting whether you want to believe it or not.

>>151252764
Not anymore than the most homo of past seasons. Fujos enjoy sports and shounen anime as much as the kiddies do so it's not like they need to do anything different to cater to them.

>>151252791
YOI is an anomaly. Say it'll be one way and it will prove you wrong.

I can't wait to see the real numbers.

>>151252910
Stop samefagging for fucks sake we know you're upset about the fujos.

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>>151252631
Do you know what happened when straight white males got poorer? They voted in Donald Trump. I fear what will happen when the straight Japanese males start to feel threatened when their income significantly drops.

>>151253152
They didn't get poorer, they turned into idolfags.

>>151253232
Stop fucking samefagging its embarrassing.

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>>151253111
>>151253232

>>151253152
They should lobby some fujos into funding their anime.
I know some fujos like yuri and much as yaoi so it shouldn't be too hard.

>>151253217
Agreed, it's the same think that happened with Reagan and Schwarzenegger. Someone larger than life was made an option.

>>151243102
>IBO us going full upper Manabi line

Jesus fuck.

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>>151253341
>thinking that would be a slur to anyone who would happily call themselves rotten
I don't think they care.

>>151253562
Oh they care when they get mocked

>>151243102
Fujo on trash only 24k
It will not even break 40k kek

>>151253743
>60k they said

tumblr on suicide watch

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welp

>>151253797
60k is a pipe dream but Touken Ranbu, another fujo show, was just estimated last week at 6k and v1w1 was actually 19k so they can be difficult to predict.

>>151253810
love live aired this year :)

>>151253743
Osomatsu did 130k on a 40k estimation last year

Yuri is dead. Long live yuri.

>>151253839
Find me a Jap who doesn't like Ghibli.
That would be like saying you didn't like Disney movies in the 90's, in which case you'd be a liar.

>>151253888
Touken Ranbu is second largest browser game after Kancolle. Before anime it was expected to sell at least 35k 40k first volume. It did poorly. Obviously some of the fujo fanbase are buying Yuri instead.

>>151254018
Its not just Touken though. Haikyuu, Free, Servamp, UtaPri, fucking Super Lovers- they all get massively underestimated. I'm not saying its going to sell 60k vol1, but acting like 27k (or whatever its prediction is now) vol1wk1 is its limit is a little dumb.

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>>151252982
fujos are literally saving anime.

>>151248210
Based Animator Expo.

>>151253936
Osomatsu did 115k.

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>crushing the competition in sales
>made twitter trending every episode
>goods are selling faster than they can make them
>normalfag authors, screenwriters and of course figure skaters are crazy about it

Can YOI be stopped?
This is as delicious as the Free butthurt explosion

>>151254212
Fair enough, I'm probably misremembering some of the exact details. I know it doubled its estimate though. 60k is highly unlikely (and always ways) but not impossible.

>>151254122
No I am saying you are overestimating their purchase power and number of buyer.

>>151254239
How can a normalfag/fujoshi pandering show be considered good by anime faggots?
Specially on /a/?

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>>151252791

>>151254239
Yeah come January.

>>151243102
Is this all the sell for one anime ?

>>151254284
It's not.

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>>151254284
I may or may not be homo

>>151253969
That doesn't mean fag on ice getting any new fanbase than older fujoshit does.

>>151254239
>Can YOI be stopped?
When next season's FOTM fujoshit hits, sure.

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>>151254453
t. increasingly nervous man says for the third time today.

Is Yuri on Ice actually good good, or is it good as in "I like yaoi" good?

>>151254514
He is right though.

>>151254453
There's nothing that looks like it'll be big with fujos next season, and with people buzzing about the non-ending and upcoming S2, prepare yourself for another 3 months of seeing it fucking everywhere.

>>151254531
Later one

>>151254531
It's amazingly average on all levels, just fujobait really

>>151254531
It's "I like sappy shojo" good

>>151254531
Good as in "I like to suck dicks and climb a wall of dicks"

>>151254531
A little bit of both. If you like Yamamoto Sayo's other stuff, you'd probably enjoy parts of this, but the relationship between the main characters is the driving force of its popularity for sure as it's a bit of a refreshing take for BL fans.

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>>151252730
That not me.

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>>151254596
>>151254602
>>151254603
>>151254620
Give me more tears.

>>151254531
Literally gay romantikku on ice.

>>151254552
>YOI will never be this season's top seller
>YOI will never be this year's top seller
>YOI will never have a canon homo end

Wow, I feel like I've seen this pattern somewhere.

>>151254577
>fucking everywhere
Tumblr circlejerk isn't everywhere

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>>151254531
Pretty good. I gave a chance since Cheer Boys impressed me.

>>151254718
Last two didn't happen.

>>151254282
Oso literally did 115k this year.

>>151254685
Garbage will be called garbage sadly

>>151245248
I don't know about japanese fujo but we just work a ton and don't really spend much on else besides cute clothes and makeup. A lot of my fujo friends also either live at home still or have spouses income to use.

I'm the last one but I'm holding out on figures over BDs

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>>151254762
Just like how Donald Trump hasn't built a wall.

>>151254725
>constant trending on twitter in multiple countries
>tweeted by and talked about by world record breaking figure skaters
>dominating merch sites
It's not just tumblr my dude.

>>151254752
Cheer Boys was underrated as fuck.

>>151254795
Yeah because Osomatsu was a popular mainstream daytime anime from 80.

>>151254859
The wall's not going to happen, but he's not even president yet.

>>151254832
Why do women love seeing men in homosexual relationships? As a guy I find yuri pointless, I can't empathize with women on this at all.

>>151254859
Still last two didn't happen

>>151254898
>mainstream audience buying blu rays
Okay.

Free! also did 40k.

>>151254453
Except the Free OVA continuation or the new Swords project I don't see anything outdoing YOI in 2017. Monogatari doesn't do those sales anymore and LL can't go on every year without a pause. Geass won't be coming until 2018.

>>151254982
YoI S2 isn't coming in 2017. 2018 at the earliest.

>>151245176
What these straight boys doing?

>>151254910
More dicks?

Don't worry about it, most women can't empathize with fujos either.

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>>151254664
Watashi ga Motete need to fucking die. That anime try to steel the name watamote and steel the jokes from the real watamote.

>>151254891
Figure skaters aren't that popular. Who don't love free advertisement? Anime trends on twitter all the time.

>>151254910
I like cute relationships personally. It can be yuri, yaoi or straight but typically it's because when you see a gay romance they are more flamboyant and sexual undertones where as strait is just a whole lot of misunderstandings or yuri is just fanservice. There's good and bad in each genre.

Most girls just like that forbidden romance garbage but for some reason hate incest or any other "forbidden" fetish.

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>>151255009
Affirming and reaffirming their friendship.

>>151255000
If they're smart about it they'll do it in 2017. Might even ditch Sayo like they did to Rie and Kekkai Sensen(the other fujo hit). They should follow the Free example and do a project every year.

>>151255061
Ended up liking Michiko to Hatchin and Fujiko Mine way better than YoI to be desu senpai
Too bad nobody cared who Sayo Yamamoto was until she made a homoerotic anime about male figure skaters. Hope People get interested in her previous work after it

>>151254973
AOT caught mainstream audience. Sometimes it happens.

>>151255144
Not sure how AoT is related but I'd say YoI is just as mainstream as fucking Free.

>>151255132
I honestly don't understand the hardon people have for Sayo. She managed to make Lupin boring. That's a hard feat.

>>151255184
I think YOI will outsell free by at least 10k. But both are not mainstream. Kimi no Na wa is mainstream. Late night anime isn't.

>>151255185
I've always found her stuff quite entertaining to watch at the very least actually, though I can't give full opinion on her take on Lupin since my only experience with the series is watching Castle of Cagliostro as a kid

>>151255219
I agree. I was using the term loosely because the person I was replying to did. Though when late night anime start selling 20k+ there usually is some portion of non anime fans contributing though not enough to call "mainstream".

>>151255037
Still a broader audience than just "tumblr circlejerk"

>>151243102
>>Takkyuu Musume - 1378

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>151254910
Male characters and their dynamics tend to be objectively the best in anime. Take any given series with a mixed cast, including ones aimed at men, and chances are the most interesting relationship will be between two guys. They aren't held back by gender roles or expectations for how they should behave in a relationship, because they're automatically assumed to be platonic from the start. The way female characters are written, especially in het romance, can be very underwhelming for a female audience. They tend to be watered down and inoffensive, so they lack the tension and drama that comes from a male dynamic.

Luckily, gay sex is similar enough to het sex that girls can stay thoroughly entertained by doujins etc without self inserting. Yuri seems boring as fuck with no real mutually stimulating penetration.

>>151254284
/y/ and /u/ have always been around. YOI is one of the very few times where a homo pairing happened outside the BL/yaoi/yuri genre.

There are thousands of waifu and hetero anime out there but the next legit homo anime will not appear until another 5 years. So just let them have this small thing.

>>151254531
It was decent but if you are intensely uncomfortable with the idea of two men together then just skip it. It's nothing explicit or anything, it's all very vanilla, but I know some people would get triggered by two guys standing close to each other.

>>151254910
In most cases because friendship or bromances are much more endearing than typical love interests tend to be. Also helps if you find both characters attractive. It's just a fetish of putting two things you are attracted to together. Goes for both yaoi and yuri.

YOI is a weird exception because it's not a bromance and lots of people say it reminds them of a shoujo couple.

>>151254910
Only fujos do, there are a shitton of otomefags but they don't browse /a/ and there are women who just like BL for the porn but don't ship characters or care about their relationship.

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>>151243102
>Yaoi
>Yuri on Ice - 24595
>Drifters - 9763
>Utapri - 5240

>Het
>Hibike S2 - 7682
>Natsume S5 - 5909
>Gundam IBO S2 - 5115

>Yuri
>Brave Witches - 4331
>Vivid Strike - 2920
>Izetta - 2785
>Wixoss S3 - 1634
>Long Riders - 1571
>Takkyuu Musume - 1378
>Flip Flappers - 1136

>>151254018
>Kancolle
>small c

>>151255023
Really?

>>151255132
M&H is objectively a much better show than YoI; the writing in YoI is atrocious and all the QUALITY and poor direction don't help. Fujiko is well-directed, but the script/story is the typical Okada retardation.

>>151253965
My sides.

>>151243102
>Yuri on Ice domination
>All Out fucking flops terribly and gets another cour
Never would I have imagined that Mappa does so well while Madhouse fails so badly in the same season.

>>151257112
Fujos can't into manly men. Madhouse fucked up earlier this year too with Prince of Stride, they really can't pull off a decent sports anime without the help of other studios lately.

>>151243102
Never watch faggot on Ice or have any interest in gaystuff but I'm gotta admit the animation are sublime and really deserves good sell.

>>151257432
>the animation are sublime and really deserves good sell.
What did Anon mean by this?

>>151257112
All Out probably exists to sell its source material and for TV ratings.

It's not a latenight show or is it?

>>151257663
It exists to promote rugby and is funded by Japan rugby association or something like that.

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>>151257262
>Prince of Stride
Meh, I liked it, it was fun.
It would make for an interesting sport.

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>>151257978
>implying it ever had anything like that again
The whole show was bait, including the animation.

>WHERE IS MAI BLOODYVORES?

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>>151245176
I'm gonna marry my best bro friend, because we're bros and that's not gay ...

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>>151260756
Spoken like someone who dropped the series early.

>>151252644
Not this time.

>>151261106
You can dress a turd but at the end of the day it's still a turd.

>>151254910
There are two guys you can love instead of just one.

>>151256699
>Het
>Natsume S5
Fujos are buying it

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>>151253810
>someone took a screenshot of my shitpost
I feel so proud

>>151253895
I just grabbed the first LL related reaction image when I posted that. But you get the point that I was referring to Sunshine

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>>151257262
>manly men
>pic related

???????

The reason why All Out flopped is because the character design is fucking hideous. They are in the some-obscure-hardcore-yaoi-hentai-you-will-only-pick-up-for-quick-porn tier. What about that Rin ripoff with... Was that toilet paper in his head? It looks fucking ridiculous.

Yoi had thousand of flaws but the characters are charming and the main hooking point.

>>151262501
Demographic is shoujo, the manga comes out in Lala

>>151263065
Pic related is best boy and beautiful, him being voiced by one of my favourite seiyuus is a huge bonus.

Anyway, figure skating is more feminine and refreshing and YoI had a great first episode which pulled the audience in, All Out felt more boring to me.

>>151257262
Madhouse, or whoever theyre making sports anime for, really does not understand their audience. (Also I think the rugby association thing was proven false because I don't see them on the production committee but I'm not sure.)

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>>151263288
I didn't watch it but I can guess he is best boy. At least he's objectively beautiful, in a Fairy way The others looks so.... I refer to pic related.

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>>151243102
>Girlish Number - 1291

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>>151243102
>>Flip Flappers - 1136
Not like I wasn't expecting something like this, but it still makes me sad.

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>Teekyuu managed to sell more than quite a few number of shows
I don't if it's Teekyuu being impressive or those shows being pathetic.

>>151264346
Anything in the bottom half is pretty interchangable in terms of actal sales when the actual numbers come out. They could all drop or gain a few hundred. Not that it matters.

>>151243102
>Takkyuu Musume - 1378
>Girlish Number - 1291
>Stella no Mahou - 854
Already expected these numbers but still... This is why we can't have nice things.

>>151264425
I'm honestly stunned at how badly Girlish Number is doing considering it had quite a lot of hype behind it. Stella no Mahou was expected though considering it seemed to lack advertising.

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>>151243102
>>Fune wo Amu - 217
Why do dem Japs even bother

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>>151243102
Best Boys winning at RAIFU and RABU

>>151264477
It seems only fujoshi shows and already-established franchises do well these days. Not a single dark horse despite this being a pretty above average season with stuff you'd expect the average otaku to love.

>>151243102
YOI will probably sell over that now that a season 2 has been confirmed/implied.

>>151264745
Wasn't Yuri on Ice a dark horse? I remember it got little-hype before it aired and the inital reactions during the prescreeings were lukewarm.

>>151264837
Never underestimate the fujoshi.

>>151264745
Yuri on Ice is the dark horse of the year /a/non. Everyone was hoping for something in Fall could make up the 15k-25k gap 2016 has had in terms of anime sales and YoI came out of nowhere. 2016 had an okay number or 10k sellers (ReZero, Konosuba ect) but it was really missing some of the bigger hits and we knew UtaPri and Touken Ranbu could do it but there needed to he one more for 2016 to be put on par with say 2014.

>>151264837
It was the dark horse of /a/ that's for sure. In terms of the show itself, the real success in YoI has been how willing non-fujos have been to pick it up, and how many professional skaters are talking about it.

>>151264837
Yeah, it was the dark horse. A small animation studio with a writer who has never done anime before and a tiny budget. YoI deserves all the sales it gets and buttblasted otako deserve to feel bad. It's a decent show, and if they'd had more money initially it would have been top tier.

>>151264854
Thats really easy to say in hindsight but up until last month even /a/ was saying that it was about to hit its "6k limit". We know that /a/ is retarded though, but most reasonable people were expecting a 10k hit.

>>151264854
Fujos aren't the only ones buying YoI though.

>>151264945
*expecting a 10k hit once it started doing well on Animate mid season

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For you all who aren't into the gays on ice, I just want to say no hard feelings? Anime will resume back to normal in the next seasons and who knows. Maybe this show will inspire those who like yuri to create a good yuri anime that isn't just a romance. From a fujo to non-fujos.

>>151265103
>implying Flip Flappers isn't better than the piece of shit that is Yuri on Ice

>>151265169
>implying Flip Flappers is yuri

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>>151265103
Dude, Love Live massacred 16 fujo shows 3 months ago.
We are the ones who should be saying that

At this point, you best pray that Symphogear S4&5 won't air along side your favorite fujoshows. Otherwise, it will be another one-sided slaughter

>>151265285
Love Live isn't a male dominated show you retard.

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>>151265169
Jokes on you, I like both.

>>151265325
Yes, and YoI is not a female dominated show either, your point?

>>151265347
YoI is absolutely a female dominated show.

>>151265376
And so is Love Live, your point?

>>151265376
I can see online though that it has a sizable male fanbase.

>>151265285
That's fine. I'm happy with Yoi and don't watch actual BL shows because it's mostly shit. I only read manga and doujin while watching normal shit throughout the seasons. YoI is enough to hold me for several years, season 2 or not.

>>151265428
The west doesn't matter. In Japan, its only bought by women, mostly fujos.

>>151264477
Yeah I expected 3-4k sales, such a shame.

>>151265285
>Love Live massacred 16 fujo shows 3 months ago.
>implying love live has the same audience has fujo shows
>implying that fujo shows doing well have effect on any show with a male audience or vice versa
Enough.

>>151265636
Well, yeah. LL is so good it drags everyone into its fanbase. Even the fujos
That's the only explanation for having a fanbase that is half women

>>151265789
No its not retard. The female part of Love Lives fanbase doesn't even watch anime. Theyre idolfags.

>>151265789
LL is for normalfags. Families watch that shit.

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>>151265893
Dude, you can't be any fan of anything if you are not going to watch the main franchise

>>151265961
Considering how there were literally reports of women whoring themselves out for a couple of tickets, and die hard fans who bashes anyone who insults the franchise, then I dare say not.
It's PG-13, but so is Animal Farm

>>151266088
Wait, in case you are not a /lit/, Animal Farm is a highly influencial literature that discusses politics and corruption using cartoony animals
It's childfriendly but adults are the main audience

Another example are Lord of the Flies, Don Quixote and Guillivers Travels

I'm going to sleep

>>151266088
Idolfags are crazier than animefags, dont get me wrong. But the idea that fujos are buying shows with female casts in masse is ridiculous. Even otome probably won't bite.

>>151266261
You are aware that girls, even the old ones, tend to love sparkly shit and dresses right? There is such a thing as enjoying both.

>>151266261
Not all female otaku are fujoshi.

>>151266669
I am aware. Thats why Love Live having a big female audience doesn't necessarily mean that it has a big cross over with Yuri on Ices audience, because many female LL fans don't watch anime in general but are more just idolfans, and the ones that do are unlikely to be fujos.