In the end it was nothing more than yaoibait. Kubo played you all like fiddle.
>Threads were full of " this is not a bait like the rest of them, they aren't doing this just to get that fujomoney"
It was a shitty show from the start. Only fujos and faggots were blind, thinking this show wasn't just a fujobait like the rest of them. In the end just a shitty show with lots of fujobait.
>victorfags praise him as the most attractive male character ever
>fujos think the characters in this show were well written and take it too seriously
Western fujos are the worst, I'm never reading their threads again.
>all those fujoshits mad because it didn't end with some hamfisted confession scene
These tears taste delicious.
For fuck's sake, sage this bait. That pair skate was the gayest thing to ever happen on this planet and they're moving in together with their pair rings.
It's not HD anon-kun, it was ripped pretty quickly from the raws afaik.
Oh, but skating quality has been worse before. This is actually an improvement.
They gave us enough, people got spoiled. In fact I thought they were moving way too fast. I'm glad they'll be living together first and probably take it slower now.
No one got "spoiled". All the information all the set up, this anime was aiming to be a really canon gay show. It set itself up, and then did not follow through. They didn't give us enough, they promised more.
The no. 6 anime has a slightly better excuse becuase the author has made it clear in the books and on her own that the two boys are gay. YOI doesn't even have that goign for it.
The pair-skate was beautiful. Yurio winning gold by a sliver was lame, but I'm glad both Yuris placed. I am a leaf so I'm happy for JJ, even though I think his placement makes absolutely no sense. Never expected the gay to get full confirmation so I'm not buttblasted like all of you about the no-kissu.
>Oh, but skating quality has been worse before. This is actually an improvement.
That just confuses me even more. Do people just close their eyes when the characters start skating and imagine boys fucking or something? How can you put up with that level of quality?
At least they could have talk about there feelings for each other rather than skating. All they talked about was skating and winning. I understand that's the anime, but a "I want to stay together with victor b/c I like victor" is canon, "I want to stay together with victor b/c i love skaiting" is stupid.
It makes it clear in the show they're already in love with each other, anon. "Ai", eros, their monologues, etc. People are being too dramatic.
Stop replying to this shit thread
I am one angry fag right now. Kubo why? Yamamoto why?
Also why are people actually happy with this ending? Are they deluded?
W-we were not watching the same show anon. Animation went to shit circa ep. 2
Reminder that the "kiss" never got confirmed and that the director said it's up to your interpretation.
Does the show make it clear? What about Yurio skating to the song other eros song? Is he also gay? No? I'm sorry, I just cannot take half assed animes and people praise it b/c if you squitn it looks gay.
There are a few skates that have good quality. It's usually the irrelavant/minor characters who have the worst quality in the skating.
Also MAPPA is a modest studio and they have been suffering under time constraints. It's hard to animate that much movement in a small amount of time.
>YOI fags spend all season taunting yurifags about how they don't have a REAL gay show.
>Turns out they were getting baited too, in a much more extreme way because it's actually dragged out all the way to the last episode.
Poetry. Now you fucking know how it feels fujos.
I don't know why the west society needs to CONFIRM everything
Because it was just bait and you try to glorify this anime as having an actual canon homo relationship.
Other ancient authors have used forms of the word to denote love of a spouse or family, or affection for a particular activity, in contrast to philia (an affection that could denote friendship, brotherhood or generally non-sexual affection) and eros, an affection of a sexual nature.
In Christianity agape is considered to be the love originating from God or Christ for humankind.
the thing is regardless of if it's gay or not the anime is still awful. If there was no fujo bait backing it everyone would be bored. There was little character development, awful quailty and the whole thing seemed out of tune.
Fujos and yurifags should be working together now. We need to pressure the anime industry into making true queer anime. We need to make them understand that all this bait shit is unacceptable.
>Also MAPPA is a modest studio and they have been suffering under time constraints. It's hard to animate that much movement in a small amount of time.
That's not an excuse. That just says Yamamoto and Kubo didn't consider the realities of TV anime production when planning the series. I can admire the ambition in there, but that doesn't mean a sub-par result is acceptable.
>mfw called Yurio wiping out on the ice during his last performance
>it didn't even affect his score
This is honestly the only thing that bothers me about the finale.
Why are people saying this? Because they didn't kiss? That was still pretty fucking gay regardless. Or I don't know, do you gaze tenderly in your straight male friends eyes while holding them? Because I have some news for you.
This. Hibike was never gay and was never going to be gay, anyone who thought Kumiko and Reina were going to be more than friends were beyond redemption. If anything, at least the YoI boys have literally zero females to pair them with.
It did affect his scoring but keep in mind his short program was leagues better than Yuri's, taking both programs into account, they both flubbed a single jump and were otherwise breaking world records.
No people are saying this b/c not only was is a bad relationship based off fujo bait. But everything else about this anime was subpar. No wonder everyone's mad. They couldn't even deliver on the one thing this anime had going for it.
FINALLY, I JUST WATCHED THE SUBBED EPISODE. IT WAS SO POETIC. PERFECT. I ALMOST CRIED MORE THAN ONCE. IT WAS SO EMOTIONAL. I DON'T GET PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT. YOU ARE HEARTLESS. IF YOU WANT TO SEE SEX WATCH PORN. YURI ON ICE HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD SERIES ABOUT SKATING. AND VICTOR AND YUURI LOVE IS CLEAR EVEN IF YOU DIDNT GET A KISS IN THE FINAL EPISODE.
They also teased/flirted with each other. People are just pulling this "no homo" bait because they're shitposters or literally expected a whole fucking wedding. They still have their rings.
Them not like "ACTUALLY" sealing the deal was a big letdown but it's still leagues beyond "Yaoi baiting".
I wonder how much of it is corporate/societal pressure and how much of it is the writers preferring to not go ham.
A straight anime for straight people.
Can't wait to watch this with my grandparent for Christmas!
>Hibike was never gay
>they literally confessed to each other with their faces an inch apart
You're confusing media with real life.
On TV, in books, in films; Doing gay shit =\= Actually gay. Without confirmation, the writers can play it off as whatever they like without suffering consequences.
Think Faberry from Glee.
People are being whinny and entitled but what can we do about it and haters are taking it as a chance to bait. But what can we do about it?
Best to do is avoid these threads while they fling shit from both sides.
Okay, okay, ya'll. I'm not saying it wasn't gay. It was. I'm saying that even though it was gay it was shitty. You can't call soemthing good just b/c there is some ambigious gay.
>fujos getting this butthurt and defensive
It's not about how homo or not homo it was, it's about how the entire season you people were saying that this anime has a canon homosexual relationship when it was just flirting and bait. It's not about how they feel about each other, it's about them not kissing on screen, telling the other directly that they love him or doing other explicitly romantic stuff that confirms a relationship. Instead we got Yuuri and Victor being flirty and baity and a joke about marriage.
It's bait if you want it to be bait and it's real if you want it to be real. Because any kind of 'love' confession was wrapped in weird skating metaphors ('be my coach', etc.), and even the kiss scene wasn't explicitly shown, there's an air of deniability about it.
I don't really know why this was kept up. I'm not really into shipping but I think the show would have been better if it truly acknowledged that Victor and Yuri were in a romantic relationship. It went too far to be a regular fujobait show and not far enough to be a real romance.
Are you retarded?
In the show, Yuuri and Victor both mention that they know love because of each other, this among other things like them wanting to seduce the other. It's not about interpretation, it's in the fucking show.
You are not able to be subtle uh? Clearly in this episode Victor hinted Yuuri must win a gold medal before their relation can go further. But this doesn't make their relation less real. You are only too much childish and you need blatant dialogues to get the stuff.
They kissed: Haha I was just doing it to surprise you!
Rings: Good Luck(TM) rings.
Pair skating: They like skating or something who knows.
It's not an uncommon thing in bait. You have to rely on 'context' and 'subtext' to see the relationship as irrevocably gay. That makes it bait.
>heheheheh here have show its about music
>girls only no boyz allowed xd
>everyone is ambiguously gay!!!
>we ruined the main character's relationship from the original for yuribait heheheh
>heheheheh here have show about sports
>buoys only no gulls xd
>everyone is gay (but we wont show them kissing!!!!)
>no confession so save up ur bux for next season
>buy the BDs!!!!!
Yes you do have to rely on context because Japan is always fucking like this. Even shoujo shit and canon het pairings in anime beat around the bush all the time. Hell, they don't even get as intimate as much as Yuuri and Victor do, with all the cuddling and hugging.
Can you not read? I never denied their feelings for each other, but fans need to stop praising their relationship when the writer never had courage to make it actually happen and have an anime that isn't primarily BL but has 2 men in a romantic relationship.
Yes, we saw them being close to each other and flirting but the writer dodged the main thing.
>Clearly in this episode Victor hinted Yuuri must win a gold medal before their relation can go further
I'm pretty sure that was Victor's flirting. He teased Yuuri about a kiss too.
I am not even a fujo, but his flirt was real. Of course he didn't mean they can't date. But career before marriage. Their love is blatant. If you need a kiss to see it you are only childish.
Not always. But people know they're romantic when they do romantic things because they're a girl and boy. So it seems "clear", but many times I've seen canon het pairings not even kiss.
>no confession so save up ur bux for next season
That's a preety clever move actually
The fact that it's Japan is no excuse.
There are plenty of legit LGBT-inclusive shows with confirmed relationships like Wandering Son, Aoi Hana, even No. 6, but they just happen to have really mediocre writing.
And it's not just a Japan exclusive thing either. It's how Western bait works as well, forcing people to use 'context' to justify what the writers dodges around.
Often het pairings don't kiss. This is true. I wouldn't care if victor and yuri never kissed. But het pairings are always clear b/c they say things that make it clear they are together. Yuri and Victor never said anything and ever gay action was played off as a joke. I cannot call that canon.
>ever gay action was played off as a joke
Nope. It's a comedy so a lot of scenes are supposed to be either cute or funny. But there are also many genuine and even dramatic scenes between them, like while Yuuri is thinking about him while skating his FS, the carpark scene, the airport scene, etc. It's not a joke.
Then in that case it's not actually canon until the end. But if you want to say the victor yuri is canon it has to have the same level of canon as end game harem or any other het pairing, which is does not. There is ovbious bait and chemistry between them but it is not canon.
Frankly I'm happy with what we got.
I want them to kissu less for my satisfaction, but for the threads. I'm fucking tired of post after post about no homo already.
>Lol, as a fujo, this is nothing but bait.
What the fuck does bait even mean.
The character are clearly in love with each other, kissed, exchanged promise ring, filtrs, don't have wedding rings, the author supports it, but somehow it's "bait"?
Are people shitposting or are legitimately retarded?
"Woah, they didn't kiss again I guess every other interaction is now meaningless. "
Exactly. This is the point I wanted to make.
Kubo/Yamamoto set up the whole show to do a whole 'appear as bait but subverted at last minute' thing but they didn't follow through. This makes it bait.
I don't know what else to tell you. Some people just have to believe in "their perfect show". When they kissed it was "a surprise", when they exchanged rings it was a "good luck charm". When sales drop b/c fujos are broke it's going to be "Just kidding they were never gay, thats gross".
This is why I never understood why people always beg for additional seasons when they could have had just one satisfying season and leave it at that.
The longer shit gets prolonged the more they have to stretch it out to keep people wanting more. You only have yourself to blame for your high expectations. In the end they just want your money and that's all.
Frankly, I think I've seen it all now. "Bait" now means anything less than explicit onscreen sex and a marriage ceremony. People still try to say Kawoshin or Nezumi/Shion aren't romantic when they had a confession and onscreen kiss respectively so whatever.
But see, kawoshin and nezushi are not bait. Becuase they TALK to each other and explicitly say things like "I love you". Victori and Yuri's interactions were mostly monologues in there heads and fake out kisses.
Then why do people still try to argue to this day about if they're REALLY canon or not, hm? Shouldn't it be conclusive evidence that everyone can understand? This isn't my first rodeo with the hetfags.
It's not a joke. They were especially serious about the kiss scene. You don't hold a gaze like that afterwards if it's not romantic. It being a "surprise" doesn't make it less romantic.
>There will be a kiss they said
>There will be onscreen marriage they said
Good goyim, buy the BD and look forward to season 2
Sorry that's just my opnion? I don't think victor yuri is canon, b/c relationships should be talked about between the two people in a relationship and feeling should be exchanged. if you think so otherwise be my guest.
>No wonder everyone's mad.
I think it's funny that /a/ is the only place actually angry about the ending. I don't have a tumblr, but my friend showed me her enormous feed and we saw no huge complaints and rants like /a/.
I'm just saying, YoI is nice. Don't be so analytical over it and enjoy it for what it is: a feel-good figure skating anime with two canonically gay guys.
Man I'm actually so fucking mad. Atleast Free drew a fucking line between actual yaoi and manservice shit. But this is just too gay to be a fanservice yaoibait. LIKE NORMAL MALE FRIENDS SKATE TOGETHER LIKE THAT AND SHARE SUCH INTENSE HUGS AND STARES BETWEEN EACH OTHER. If those two aren't in a canon relationship next season, that would be just absolute bullshitting with us.
You are right, they are straight.
Can't wait to watch episode 7 with my grandpa on Christmas.
Don't worry Grandpa, the author hasn't seen they are gay so they are actually straight!
Eh. I guess my only complaint is that I felt that yoi/ the yoi fandom promissed and expected more than just a cute anime.
The way it developed in first half of the season it made it seem like it would be really good and the best. I'm just underwhelmed it didn't become the "perfect anime" like it promissed. End the fact is, it sort of promissed an explicitly gay ending and the was more ambigious.
If it just marketed itself as a cute anime I'd have so many less problems.
They canonically have feelings for each other. You can't choose to ignore their thoughts about each other and their actions.
I don't know why I'm still replying to this shit thread.
Exactly. Official statements have confirmed Kawoshin and you STILL have people arguing otherwise like their lives depend on it.
There's no winning. Period. So it's best to just enjoy what's there regardless of what others say.
To be fair, there was nothing ambiguous about OnS's sucking scene. Flesh was penetrated, blood was drunk, Yuu came in his pants, Shinoafags filled mass graves with their fat-thighed deluded selves. It was a masterpiece compared to the "interpretation" dance most common in fujobait shows.
The reason people are hypercritical is because this shitty fanbase spent weeks making threads about how you WERE GOING TO GET MARRIAGE and laughing about how you TRIGGERED /A/ OH SO BAD!!.
But in the end you didn't. You got flirting and hugging. You didn't get sex. You didn't get marriage. You didn't even get a kiss. Naruto had a gay kiss.
I saw no lips touching each other
Show me a screencap of the wedding and Yuuri saying "I do"
>gay pair skating
Why is pair skating gay?
>gay move into together
That's your delusion.
>But see, kawoshin and nezushi are not bait
kek, someone wasn't here when No.6 and discussed Eva around 2000.
It's just a midnight kiiiisssssssss.
>You didn't get sex.
>Implying Hotel sequence didn't end in sex
They kissed, Yuuri's reaction and Victor's sentence wouldn't make any sense in context if they didn't. It's obvious as fuck.
No they're not married (yet).
>the last two
Yeah, this is bait. Confirmed for not watching the show.
Yes. I'm only seeing this level of reaching and circlejerking on /a/, surprisingly.
how's the burning going wedding-invitation-anon?
I don't even care about proving it's canon, they kissed in episode 7 and that did it already. I'm just mad that they fucking wasted the perfect opportunity for another kiss that would've made the episode so much more satisfying. I got so blue balled it's not even funny.
Kaworu is just an angeeelllll Shinji loves his like a mooooootheeerrer
In europe you kiss on the mouth all the timeeeee
Why the fuck do I even bother. Congratulation, bait basically became a buzzword.
Good thing those are a string of phrases and not a complete sentence, then.
The context of this is that she was getting swamped by tweets and probably harassment, she did that to shut up both sides. Maybe not the most satisfying move, but whatever. She already confirmed on her twitter beforehand.
That aside, I thought hetfags were all about the show "speaking for itself". And the whole context of the scene can only mean it was a kiss.
I watched it for the cute guys. Not everyone who likes guys is into shipping faggots.
I don't know about other places, but I know the /a/ threads had high expectations of an actual marriage or implied sex scene for weeks. Then every week it doesn't happen they whine about it.
The problem isn't that YOI wasn't gay, more like fujoshits are fucking greedy and horny.
>Kubo says it's up to my interpretation, fujo.
No, she didn't. She said "I'm not going to force my interpretation of that scene on anyone" which it's probably a nice way to tell you to stop getting triggered by homolust. How the fuck do you even read that scene as a hug unless everyone in that world was hit with mass amnesia. SURPRISE HUG.
Not that it fucks matter, there are like other 100 romantic scenes but it doesn't matter because it's just baiiit. I'm not even sure what bait means at this point.
>actual marriage or implied sex scene for weeks
thats wayyy too gay
I mean I'd understand a fullscreen kiss on the lips but why would they get married? that so strange from a directing standpoint
But actual canon homo relationships in non-BL anime are extremely rare, that's why just implications and "show, don't tell" aren't enough to confirm. Also I should note that I don't care whether they are in a relationship or not, I believe they love each other, but my point is that the writer/director pussied out.
>high expectations of an actual marriage or implied sex scene for weeks
This always the most retarded thing, mostly the marriage one. Now people are denying that it's gay because they didn't get hitched right away. Not even many het couples get that. Holy fuck.
Why insist on using a no. 6 "implied kiss" scene when in the novels its explicitly said they kissed and had romantic feelings for each other? Its not the same comparison to an implied kiss in YoI
I guess having the rings made them think there would be an eventual wedding. I knew there wasn't going to be implied sex scene when they censored that kiss as hard as they did.
I don't know why anyone expected Yuuri to win gold either. That would mean Fairy would have to fail pretty hard which would have made it a cheap gold anyways.
>Why insist on using a no. 6 "implied kiss" scene when in the novels its explicitly said they kissed and had romantic feelings for each other? Its not the same comparison to an implied kiss in YoI
Because to non-homo fags it didn't matter. They still argued it was a "goodnight kiss".
I'm just showing you how retard people are to homo stuff.
>yfw you are in such a hurry and you use the wrong key animation for an important scene
>unless everyone in that world was hit with mass amnesia
Apparently they were, because nobody even teases Yuuri and Victor about being lovers. There is the scene where Phichit says they're married after he sees the rings, but nobody mentions that "kiss" ever again.
Yes, Kubo excused herself that in the world of YoI there is no homophobia, but the news would still be all over two celebrities getting together.
To be fair not many het pairings get as far as engagement rings either. But of course they wouldn't get married this season since they want to milk it as long as possible now that they know people will buy it.
>Apparently they were, because nobody even teases Yuuri and Victor about being lovers. There is the scene where Phichit says they're married after he sees the rings, but nobody mentions that "kiss" ever again.
Kiss was two weeks ago and what there is to mention?
Seriously, are we still talking anime here?
It was? MY FUCKING SIDES, no wonder miserable, failure Chagen is crying his heart out randomly about yuri in falseflagging blatantly shitty bait threads, when yurifags never even gave a single fuck nor bothered to shitpost back. I just want to see and discuss het and not even that can be possible when you have a nervous dumblrina ledditor like him shitposting anything with two girls, fucking useless nigger.
In his own cancerous, tumblry, pathetic words: "BTFO". What a glorious day to be alive. How does it feel to fail at EVERYTHING in your disgusting and useless life?
It's not, it's sweet karma. I personally don't give a shit about yuri or yaoi, but I sure like my girls without having an eternal newfag cry about everything that doesn't involve two fucking dicks or diapers. Fucking delicious tears.
The only thing i'm mad about is about JJobber getting third place ober Otabek or thai boipussy.
Living together with matching rings and after doing pair skate to a love song is the gayest thing you can get before entering doujin territory.
Let's talk about Yuzuru's cameo.
Why do you people take bait so easily?
Can't we just discuss the show without jumping on every idiot that comes in thread and claims YOI was nothing but fujobait?
The very fact that two male characters actually flirted with one another without pulling the whole 'b-but we're both guys!' schtick should prove that they were *actually* homo and that it wasn't just fujobait, even if their relationship wasn't explicitly stated.
Not to mention that it's a show airing in Japan, of course the writers wouldn't be able to just out and have them make out and have sex in a vat of oil or whatever the fuck it is you faggots wanted.
All of you, stop being retarded.
Let's talk about the source of that image, where every single one of you disgusting faggots come from.
This is your shitposter.
>In the end it was nothing more than yaoibait. Kubo played you all like fiddle.
You can't even bring me down.
This is more than the fujos ever get in a non-yaoi anime.
Which Kubo is worse? Yuri on Ice's Kubo or the more famous Kubo?
Pretty glad they didn't bang. Yuri is still pure.
I was kind of excited for an S2 but then I realized it's going to be Yuri shit stomping everyone because he didn't make it in S1.
Although I'm glad Yurio won because he really deserved it, Far superior to Yuri and probably always will be.
>All my years on /a/ and the Tumblr boogyman still exists. Why would they leave that site to shitpost here?
You never browsed a Yuri on Ice thread? They have a discord where half the people are from tumblr.
There. Not a pixel of JJ left.
Best part of the episode was when childhood JJ shows up wearing Cartman's clothes
They literally outspokenly admit they're from tumblr too. Unsurprisingly, since all they do in other threads is shitpost while blog posting in their own. No wonder everyone hates fujoshits, if they just stayed in their already out-of-context blogposting threads at least we could ignore them.
>yuzu doing #JJStyle
Kubo is such a fucking troll, I love her.
So emotional tears or pain tears. Which is it?
there was no kiss so shittastefags are salty.
there was beautiful pair skating though.
He was so exhausted at the end it could be either, and they MUST be setting up for an injury in S2. I just don't get putting so much emphasis on his physical issues if they aren't going to follow through.
>much no homo ending!!11!
>this screen shot
the hetfag delusion and the fujos constant need for homovalidation never fail to surprise me
The first few and this week's. The meme has been around forever so it doesn't even matter anymore. Shitposting during a series finale espeically a homo show is to be expected.
OK but can BaldFat shippers stop being so salty over no kissu? Yuuri gave Victor back to the skating world, said he wants to be with Victor forever even as competitors and literally followed Victor all the way to Russia just to be with him. They're still wearing their rings and most probably live together in Victor's apartment. What more do you want?
I am thankful for what we have.
With them sleeping with a pillow between.
>not following through
>ignoring all the other emotional shit constantly thrown in through the series
The good luck charms that don't have to be romantically implied
Kissu that lead to no change in their relationship
>ignoring all the other emotional shit constantly thrown in through the series
Strong bond between a skater and his idol coach
quality to the end
season 2 will be beautiful though
Must be easy to argue when you can declare every scene "gay pandering".
Also it's fun that people think "gay pandering" means the character couldn't be gay. Do people think the author is playing some sort of 4D chess for them? Is there any reason Kubo would trick you?
I don't know what's worse.
A) hetfags who really believe 100% this shit is no homo, or;
B) fujo's complaining they didn't get 'muh kiss' despite all the homo
I hate all of you. I'm glad it's over.
SEE YOU NEXT WINTER FAGGOTS
>Wedding rings that both vas and Yuri's inner monologue considered good luck charms. They are a symbol of their bond, which doesn't have to be romantic.
600€ wedding rings that they exhanged while blushing in front at a church with at their fingers and kiss and exchanged are not romantic, Gotcha. These characters are obviously straight.
Now I now what I'm doing with Christmas for my bro! I hope he'll be OK with it.
as much as I lol'd that JJ got bronze, it was the only part of the episode I'm slightly butthurt about. I'm rationalizing that they did it so as not to undermine how strong JJ's sk8game was up until last episode.
Chris should have got it though, Otabek is still noob in senior division so fourth is fine for him.
More Otabike S2 guaranteed.
Those wedding rings he bought for 'thank you for coaching and good luck'? Literally the definition of bait.
Oh my fuck they're skating in a skating anime.
Victor 'haha just a surprise but let's exchange really intense looks after rather than affirm our love' Nikiforov
>ignoring all the other emotional shit constantly thrown in through the series
Having emotions is gay now.
I agree, why don't you try kissing your straight friend on the mouth?
Tell us how it goes.
I know people don't have good reading comprehension from where you are, but it's pretty hard to ignore the tone of the scenes you're arguing.
The rings were literally a thank you from Yuri to Victor before he splits up with him in the finale. That is the textual explanation and is further back up by their vas.
Of course they're going to fucking wear them. Of course they are going to cherish them. It represents their time together. That is enough 'ambiguity' to declare that they are not canon gay, as in romantically together. As in a couple.
There is no indication they are dating eachother by the end of this show.
WHO WAS THIS MAN
>no georgi in the final episode
WORST EPISODE EVER REEEEEEEEE
>confession scene that'd make them actually official
did this not count?
>It was queerbaiting.
>The term refers to what happens "when people in the media (usually television/movies) add homoerotic tension between two characters to attract more liberal and queer viewers with the indication of them not ever getting together for real in the show/book/movie".
Doesn't even fit YoI. Shit is gay as fuck and most people try to NO HOMO it.
I wish I screencapped the No.6 discussions from back then.
It would have been pretty fun and a good lesson on how some people minds work.
I don't think anyone's denying that this show is still gay as fuck, but baiting a kiss so hard and not even delivering that is a low blow. And before someone brings up 7, a non-obstructed one should've happened.
>The state of this thread over no homo or yes homo
You're all retarded.
On a happier note, Victor's birthday is in like 3 days nip time. Can't wait for all the fanart and birthday cakes the Fujos will deliver.
This. I expected a non-obstructed one to happen, especially since Medo-chan seemed happy when she asked Kubo if there would be a kiss. There were like 5 times in the episode where it looked like they should have kissed but they didn't. I know a kiss doesn't automatically mean confirmation but it's the least they could do when it's obvious they're gay as fuck.
Man, I agree that the no-homo crew is fucking idiot, but the lack of kissing was seriously lame. Even just showing their chins or something.
At least hotel scene was totally implied fucking the way it ended.
There's really no excuse for it. As in, there's not even logical justification. Anyone willing to spend a cent on this series is desperate for more, and will double the money if they get it. I can't fathom the reasoning behind holding back, who are they afraid of offending? Homophobes don't care about regular yaoi, why would they care about this? People on the fence about homo would've dropped it long ago. Everyone left is in love with Baldfat and just want to see them together as a happy couple.
They're so beautiful together and they deserve better. They don't need a kiss to prove that they're canon, but the lack is so conspicuous if you just think of it as a regular romance series. It's jarring as fuck in het romance too, if they don't wrap it up with a kiss or confession.
The whole thing was basically handled like that ambiguous kiss we got. Anyone who expected anything obvious after that was delusional. If they wanted to show, they would have shown. And then it would be a niche shonen-ai show with no chance of ever becoming popular/mainstream. Just what the studio wants, right?
Still, if you want to believe, the show is the gayest thing ever.
If you don't want to believe, it was all just about skating with some fujobait thrown in.
Thank you for watching the Schroedinger's gay anime.
I think it still changed things, just in the sense that bait should be higher quality, more intense and more woven into the narrative than it usually is. I wouldn't even call it bait, it's hard to argue that they didn't kiss unless you desperately want to think they didn't.
Still think it's past bait/subtext, nothing can change the no homo crew. Pair skating to an explicitly romantic song should clue anyone in to their feelings. But it still fell a bit short in some respects, yeah.
> gay as fuck
Yes. That's what homoerotic tension means.
> most people try to NO HOMO it
Kubo gave no indication they're going to be in anything but a kooky coach/athlete relationship despite all the leads.
The writers are the ones no homo-ing it. I'm just an angry baited fag.
The only people who think this isn't bait is fujoshi who give two shits about actual gay people only the bishounen yaoi ships in their heads.
"T-the flaws and weak writing in this show are not flaws because of a potential season 2!"
That doesn't matter. When people critically look at any media, they're going to judge each piece how it stands as it own. Even on going movies need to have a decent ending. If anything this just makes the ending look more rushed and like they changed it last minute for more $$$.
>There's really no excuse for it. As in, there's not even logical justification. Anyone willing to spend a cent on this series is desperate for more, and will double the money if they get it. I can't fathom the reasoning behind holding back, who are they afraid of offending? Homophobes don't care about regular yaoi, why would they care about this? People on the fence about homo would've dropped it long ago. Everyone left is in love with Baldfat and just want to see them together as a happy couple.
To be honest, I feel like Kubo and Mappa didn't expect this level of success and support. Homo still trigger people even if the animu itself it's cleared not anime at them. The fact that they basically kissed in episode 7 pretty much sealed the deal of them not kissing again until season 2 episode 5.
This said, people thinking it's just "Bait" it's fucking idiot.
I'm here arguing it's past simple bait at this point and I'm a fag too. Stop accusing people of this kind of shit if they have a different opinion. I had low expectations for this episode anyway. Especially now that they confirmed s2 at the end, it's ridiculous to think they'll blow their load early when they can drag out the romance longer
People were disappointed? That last pair skate was pretty much an on-screen sex scene. Looking forward to things getting more intense between Yuri and Victor and BikeFairy really coming to fruition next season.
I don't think it's bait either but they could have gone further, it's like they're scared of actually fully confirming it and it ended up looking ambiguous for people who don't want to see the gay.
That's why to me it's still not a game changer, until a show comes where they leave no room open for interpretation in their relationship then it'll still look like fujobait.
>Kubo gave no indication they're going to be in anything but a kooky coach/athlete relationship despite all the leads.
>The writers are the ones no homo-ing it. I'm just an angry baited fag.
Most anime relationships do less stuff than this. Remember when the Clannadmad kissed his waifu in the aniime? Yeah, me neither and those two were married and had a kid.
Remember when Ryuji kissed Taiga and then she left for two years? Who, I guess the author non-hetero'd that one.
Seriously, the double standards and the amount of crazy analysis people go for some homo pandering is fucking exhausting. I'm not even sure why I bother, after No.6.
And there is nothing wrong about framing their relationship as coach/student and future rivals given the much the show ties the character development with the skating numbers and literally puts everything once ice.
I mean, if you actually think these characters are straight and Yuuri is going to end up with female character n.2 then be my guess, but it seems a bit
There were plenty of psychical signs of affection, though. Of course people just dismiss it as "fanservice". As if fanservice can't be part of a relationship.
Also Toraradora and Clannad are both romances.
Broadcast television needs metaphors for dicks. There's always going to be subtext for that reason, you can't get much more blatant than what they showed. Kiss, rings, tears, hugs, blushing, "stay with me", dancing, be my coachi. There's enough there that buttsex and "I love you" shouldn't be necessary.
The entire episode felt like a sequel hook, so yeah.
Unfortunately, I kind of saw this coming when I saw that MAPPA was excited about making a second season. Literally no one wraps up a romance conclusively when there's going to be more. That's why romances in ongoing TV shows are always full of will they or won't they shit
I'm going to have mixed feelings about this series and what the intentions of the authors were and how I should interpret it until S2, but episode 10 is honestly one of the most satisfying episodes of fujo anime ever. I could watch just that episode forever and pretend like everything after it never happened.
I'm sort of split on being happy that we'll be getting another season of homo skate, and being disappointed that the ending of this season was shoehorned into being a cliffhanger. Maybe I slightly prefer having no continuation, only a solid one season show.
Does the final scene leave any possibly other than them being 10000% gay for one another?
The ending was weakened by episode 7 a lot more than episode 10. Ep 7 felt like a finale in itself, the kiss and fight were so perfectly done and it could've easily made for an amazing climax to the series.
MAPPA's busy with idolshit next season, but there's nothing stopping them from releasing an OVA of shit we wanted to see but didn't get. Domestic BaldFat, downtime with other skaters, behind-the-scenes shit, Makkachin being the best dog, whatever. They won't sit on their asses until whenever they can fit in a proper second season. This is MAPPA's first big sensation and they're going to capitalize on it.
It's not uncommon for OVAs to basically be fanservice, so calm your tits and wait for it. And for the love of god stop replying to "it was a no-homo ending neener neener!" posts.
>good luck charms that don't have to be romantically implied
goodluck charm you paid 700+euro on the first installment. wew.
what is stammi vicino, non te andare
>Kissu that lead to no change in their relationship
u mean kissu that indicated that they were not bait amirite
>Strong bond between a skater and his idol coach
people cannot have different facets of relationships now with the same person. kek.
Why do people like Victor again? He's annoying, has a five head, is balding, and is settling for some piggy that'll probably lose his shape after he wins the gold. His prime was when he had long hair, and that's long gone.
So what's wrong with that? If she was confirmed bi I'd be all over that, since there aren't many of those. Is she only likes girls then that's great too.
And don't at like fujos aren't above that "s/he could be bi" shit too.
>When did Yuuri and Victor ever say they love each other as people, and see each other as more than just a coach/skater?
Almost as if every relationship in the shows is framed on ice.
I can't wait for Season 2, when they all get girlfriends! A mother would be so proud of the woman who brought home a fine upstanding man like that.
Unlike how disappointed she is in you.
Jesus christ, are we even watching the same show? Every relationship in the show is framed in the ice skating scenes, Michelle literally breaks up and leaves his feeling behind for his sister by SKATING.
Victor monologues about how Yuuri showed him life and love after he left competitive skating. We didn't get too much of Yuuri's POV in the episode, but we got the banquet reveal, which showed how Victor's attraction first happened through drunken dancing and shenanigans.
Anyway much of the episode is just them going on a sightseeing date in Barcelona and generally acting like a couple outside of skating.
But even the background romantic relationships on the show are framed on the ice. It's not exclusive to Baldfat, it's the way the show is.
Will we get another ass this delicious?
I heard animation was good for like one episode. Other than that it seemed like more yaoibait anyway so i never really had my hopes up.Not that I watched it anyway but good to know i can skip it now.
>People just need to admit the show was still ambiguous fujobait. That's it. I don't know why people need to pretend their shows are somehow more highbrow than they really are.
The real question is why some people are so adamant to admit the two leads are fags and in love with each others.
Half of the narrative doesn't work if you don't assume Victor is in love with Victor and Yuuri doesn't have feeling for Victor.
What's going to happen? They already kissed, they are not going to get girlfriends in the end. Do you THINK they could get girlfriends?
Do people even realize what "bait" means anymore?
Hibike is the very definition of bait because the "gay" scenes are completely detached from the characters, these girls talk about love and then spend half of the episode about wanting to fuck their professor.
Yuuri gives Victor a wedding ring and half of his skating sequences are about his sexual awakening tanks to Victor.