Why are both seasons so fucking based?

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>Fucking based

The show is entertaining enough to not be a total waste of time but you've gotta be kidding. Two seasons and not a fucking thing of note happens, literal death for a show in the romance genre. Also best girl is Yui.

>>151206796
>nothing of note happens
>death to romance anime
God if Nisekoi gets more seasons this will be hillarious

They all suck, besides Liquid Yukino maybe.

It wasn't. I remembered good threads on /a/ about it so I watched it and it ended up being absolutely mediocre.

I honestly believe it is so liked on /a/ for the sole reason that so many of you can self insert into Hachiman seamlessly.

>>151206492
>Why is SNAFU so goddamn good?

It isn't.

>Also best girl?

Generic love interest #1 is clearly superior to generic love interests #2 and #3.

Except S2 was trash.

>>151209923
S2 Hachiman is gorgeous, this alone is enough to justify s2

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It was great to watch with /a/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0YoUh0SjWc

>>151206492
IROHA OR DEATH

I like Iroha

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Yui is the best girl and will win. She isn't a Hikki hungry slut like Yukiwhore.

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Good Irohasu, everyone!

Iroha doesn't like 8man romantically. She doesn't have feelings for him.

I like how much it pisses off half of /a/. It's a solid bait and switch, going from edgelord hijinks to coming-of-age drama.
It could have been better if the author had had any idea where he was going with it.

Didn't Hachiman ask Yui out in the beginning of vol. 11? What's up with that?

I can't remember if that was in the anime because I wasn't really paying attention when I was watching it.

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Iroha or Death

The girl who 8man chooses is up to him. 8man loves his Yui and only wishes to befriend Yukino.

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>implying the best girl is a girl

>>151214593
>akino sora doing something other than Yuix8man
Fucking traitor. I hope it is IrohaxHayama.

>>151213996
THAT'S AWESOME IROHA

>>151214688
Saika is a girl

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>>151214052
Is this post Yuidelusions or Yukinodelusions?

>>151214770
neither, Iroha is just a bitch lingers for 8inch

>>151206492
Because it is written by a genius who moonlights as a light novel author.

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>>151214866
>the collective buttmad when Iroha wins the Hikkibowl

>>151214190
pls respond

>>151214770
Iroha likes Hayama and Yukino also likes Hayama. Yui loves her Hikki.

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>yfw 8man shows more interest in Iroha than Yui and Yukino

>>151215073
Iroha liked Hayama but actually likes 8man
Hayama likes Yukino
Yukino likes 8man
Yui likes 8man

>>151206492
>Also best girl?
Nagi Yanagi

>>151215091
>Yukino likes 8man
[citation needed]

>Iroha liked Hayama but actually likes 8man
She is just using him. Iroha is a bit fond of 8man but we don;t know if it is romantic in nature.

>>151206492
Binge watched this for the first time a few days ago. I have to say I was disappointed with how nothing happened in the end, none of the drama made any sense, there wasn't a best girl at all, and everyone became friends or developed a crush on the MC despite how unlikeable he is (even to the audience).
The only way I can reason why this show is popular on /a/ is because of the sheer number of autistic virgins who wish they could find a girlfriend without having to improve themselves, and view the MC as some kind of role model.
Garbage show.

>>151215131
>Iroha is a bit fond of 8man but we don;t know if it is romantic in nature.
It's heavily implied.

Also, they're selling merch with her as if she's a third contender

>>151215204
>they're selling merch
There's your reason why she exists.

>>151215204
>Also, they're selling merch with her as if she's a third contender
Jews will always jew.

>It's heavily implied.
Where?

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>>151215240
>Where?
Did you even watch the fucking anime

>>151215111
whose your best girl, seriously

>>151215293
I read the novels which don't give that impression at all. The anime is just marketing her.

>>151215293
The anime is a terrible representation of Iroha's actual character. Iroha's entire character reeks of executive meddling because Studio Feel wanted to turn her into a contender so they can sell merchandise.

>>151215353
>>151215335
Good, considering she's superior to the main girls

>>151215372
No, it's terrible because she's one of many inconsistencies between the LN and the anime adaptation. It's one of the reasons why the second season is such nonsense.

>>151215328
I don't really have one yet, maybe it's either Iroha or Yukino.

>>151215405
she's still better written than the others

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I don't get this imagery
>Yukino and Yui walking away from eachother
>in the anime it was Yukino pushing 8man away at this point

>>151215477
>better written
Yeah, no.

>>151215525
Her getting to like 8man seems more realistic than the other two (maybe not Yui, but Yukino at least). The buildup is much better made.

>>151215525
Better written than Yukino.

>>151215553
>>151215558
Once again, hell no. If you're anime only watchers, please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about. This entire series already has major problems without you guys making it worse.

>>151215594
>You don't get to talk about this show because you didn't read the source material

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>>151215594

>>151215594
>I'm not going to back up my claims but you're still wrong
Classic memeing right here

>>151215594
Yukino's character doesn't make sense at certain points. Like how she kicks 8man out of the club despite the fact that he makes her happy. Iroha is consistent and not poorly written.

>>151215594
Yahari author, is that you?

>>151215717
>why would a person act against their own interests?
>and a girl at that! a teenage girl, that well known bastion of rationality
try again, pls

>>151206796
>a total waste of time
>literal death for a show in the romance genre

Yeah, except that OreGairu is NOT a fucking romance story. It's a drama about a person's struggle, not a romcom. And it has much more to it than you can possibly understand trying to view this as a romance.

I was disappointed of it too when i first watched, cause like you i sought and expected an actual romcom, and from that perspective i found... Uhmm... Literally nothing? Frustrated by the lack of romantic development, i just labeled SNAFU as an another mediocre romcom show and forgot about it, but when the second season came out and i rewatched it, i was struck by how i totally missed the whole concept of the series when watched it at first. Hell, OreGairu has actually one of the deepest stories in anime/ln world. Rewatched it like 5 times already and read the original twice, and what's impressing that is while i've done this, every time now and then i discovered something new, something that i missed before. Thanks mostly to the Watari's ambiguous writing style, but it really exceeds everything what you might expect from a light novel series.

>>151215405
This is why anime should have more original endings

Most LN authors are fucking hacks

>>151215594
Is it theoryfag? The one who pretends that he alone understands the story yet refuses to actually tell us anything.

>>151215645
>>151215653
>>151215708
>>151215717
>>151215742
So, most of the people here are anime only watchers then? Or just people that didn't understand what they were reading in the first place in case you did read the LN? Splendid.

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I don't know who's worse, secondaryfags or Irohafags. Maybe they're even the same thing

>>151215801
No, the light novel is infinitely better than season 2, because season 2 rushed through everything and changed so much shit, that you may as well call season 2 something entirely different than what the author's original vision was.

>>151215845
>>151215851
>>151215708

>>151206492
I'm on the last ep of S2 and I can't help but feel all this drama with Haruno is just really retarded.

>>151215932
Just focus on how cute Iroha is

>>151215876
What do you want backed up? No one here understands the story anyway. Every time someone tries explaining something you guys immediately jump down that person's throat. 4chan is not the place for any type of meaningful discussion, which is why these threads need to get purged indefinitely.

>>151215948
I want to kill this cunt

The OVA proved that Iroha and Yui care about 8man and Yukino doesn't. Yukino at no point has gone the extra mile for him and probably doesn't care about his well being or development into being a functional person.

>>151215946
She's sickeningly cute. Really cute. Super cute, even. But whenever she goes away and the drama with Hachiman et al ensues I keep wondering what even is the point of this if they already established that Haruno is a shitty person who enjoys toying with people for her own amusement.

Also everyone falling for Hachiman feels kinda poorly written I feel like I'm missing a massive piece of information for why these girls are falling for him or why anyone other than Yukino is giving a shit about Haruno.

>>151216003
>Also everyone falling for Hachiman feels kinda poorly written
That's why I like 8man and Iroha's relationship since the buildup is decent and seems plausible

>>151206492
What's up with the pacing of this show? I just finished the first episode and was having trouble keeping up

>>151215875
True, without a proper context you might even be tricked to think that Yahari actually is a romance story. Season two alone just doesn't make much sense. But after reading the LN it really starts to shine. And also S2 works well as a bait to hook up viewer to an actual LN, so it's not bad, i'll say. At least it brought me to read the original, for what i'm really thankful to it.

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>>151206492
Iroha killed these threads. People should really stop making them already

>>151215996
Yukino did tried to stay by 8man side during their visit to bra shop so that 8man is not seen as horny teenager

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>>151206492
>Also best girl?

Yukino is shit. Yukinofags make these threads unbearable with their delusions and their crying that people don't worship her. They barely understand the story and they refuse to see her for what she really is.

>>151216141
If we could all report them until volume 12 comes out, that would be great.

>>151215996
I hope this is bait

>>151216183
I am not gay but i enjoy looking at soft white thighs of Saika

The death of these threads were Irohafags. Literally just take one glance at this thread and its clear. S1 threads were great. Ever wonder why they went to shit after S2?

>>151216292
Yuipollfag killed them.

>>151216187
>>151216292

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>>151216234

>>151216141
It's not Iroha who killed these threads. It's retarded waifuspergs. Without Iroha they'd be all rooting for Yui and Yukino and shitting on each other's waifu without a proper discussion. Nothing would've been changed, be sure of that.

>>151216313
Yuipolfag stays in his own little world and only retards still argue with him.

>>151216320
I'm not gay but I'd fuck Saika til I pass out desu

>>151215774
lel

>>151216320
This is disgusting.

>>151216370
Stop being gay.

>>151216054

Enjoy your 8 LN volumes being packed into a 13 series of anime

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Watari abandoned you all for a shitty seiyuu moe series. How does that make you feel?

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>>151206492

>Series goes out of it's way to provide excuses that too much kindness is a weakness
>Hachiman is constantly indulging everyone around him of their own problems

What a silly self-defeating story, no wonder it never got a third season.

>>151216342
Yes but Iroha brought them in waves. These threads weren't so bad before she was introduced.

>>151216473
Just report the thread.

>>151216343
He constantly tries to steer conversations into whatever he wants. Right now he is trying to make it seem like Yui is justified for ditching Yukino as a friend.

>>151216473
There's a reason why the term Irohacancer exists. It's not a meme or something.

>>151216350
I'm not gay but I'd suck Saika til I pass out desu

ftfy

>tfw I saw Nagi Yanagi two months ago and she sang Yukitoki and Harumodoki
Damn no-photos policy though, even during the meet-and-greet, which was odd since it was allowed with ELISA and May'n.

>>151216772
Well ELISA and May'n are whores so it makes sense.

>>151216473
Well, you might be right.
Ah, i remember these good times having an actual discussion on SNAFU on a small russian board's /a/. Even after S2 and Iroha's introduction they did not went downhill, like those on 4chan. Discussing a characters' personalities, motivations; expressing thoughts on the future possibilities and hidden meanings of words - all of that stuff was genuinely almost as best experience as the actual reading of an LN. And here it's just disappointing to see how the actually good and discussion-worthy story got only a waifu-wars.

>>151216473
All Irohafags did was bring the mentality that they have to shit on other girls and think of any reason as to why she would win. Yuifags and Yukinofags existed but they were still under the umbrella of "people who enjoy the series" whereas Irohafgas will straight up say they only like Iroha and don't care about the rest of the characters or the story. Waifufags don't bother me, the extreme waifufags who don't even like the the story bother me.

>>151216909
Dude, I would love to be able to go back to those days, but the threads are full of cancer. No one here cares about the story or the characters. That won't change anytime soon. Irohafags have certainly made it much, much worse. Just look at any given thread. You literally can not discuss anything meaningful here anymore. That's exactly why these threads need to die.

>>151213731
I've never watched the show but it's obvious she will, the lighter the girl's hair the more likely they are to win

no exceptions

>>151217256
The light haired one is voiced by Touyama Nao and the dark haired one is voiced by Hayami Saori. It was never a contest really.

>>151217256
Saika will win then

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>>151217409
Good.

>>151206492
Turned into a generic harem. Tragedy

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harem shit

>>151217503
>>151217517
>only one, maybe two girls likes the MC
>haremshit
I hate you fags.

>>151217503
i agree

>>151217503
Blame all these shitty side characters and Watari catering to the people that like them.

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at least sensei got her car

the rest can fight for the 8dick but it will be a friendship ending or someone other then these 3 bitch like kawasaki

>>151217599
>muh side characters
5% of the fanbase.

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>not harem

>>151217930
Yea I always argued it wasn't a harem but that new VN is just too much. People are just gonna reply and say it's not related to the actual story, but it's clearly being sold as harem at this point.

>>151217930
Yeah, like some shitty spinoff VN does define an original series in any way. Hell, the whole purpose of it and ANOTHER volumes is exactly to put harem out of original series.

>>151217930
>taking 8man's chose your wet hole adventure seriously
Not written by WW and everyone is out of character.

>>151218056
Who cares how it is sold? Jews are just trying to siphon shekels. He wrote ANOTHER and will write vol 12. ANOTHER wasn't nearly as happy as the VN and there wasn't any harem elements in it.

>>151217930
How's Saika's route in the new one? And where can I get the CG?

>>151217930
wheres hayama?

>>151217930
Truly a low point in this series. I hate Watari for this.

>>151218311
He didn't write it and he doesn't own the source material so it isn't as if he can say no to it. He didn't market it on his twitter.

Wait until vol 12 is out before making such a claim.

>>151218090
ANOTHER wasn't a harem, it was a Yui end and 8man's/Yukino's bad end.

>>151218639
And it was shit. Don't forget to mention that.

>>151218727
True but I don't really lump it with the VN. I can't ever imagine 8man waking up one day deciding he will fuck Ebina/Yumiko/Meguri etc and there to be no consequences for it. Even him deciding that is too much of a stretch when we don't even know if romance is on his mind.

>>151214190
>>151214960
PLEASE

Why did they cut out the poker scene back in season 1?

GOOD IROHASU!

>>151215774
Memes aside
The romance was always there but the it got more prominent over the time and towards the end it pretty much became the only thing going on. I'd argue that at the beginning it was largely in the background and the main focus of the story was 8man fucking up everyone elses rose-colored high school life and how that affected him.

>>151218056
>People are just gonna reply and say it's not related to the actual story
People should reply and say this because it's correct. It's a game done for fun, nothing more. Seriously feels like Yahari is the first and only LN (or anime) you guys have consumed sometimes, because this shit is standard and no one else gets as triggered by it as some of you guys do.

>>151222329
It isn't all that fun when the author sells out and betrays everything about his series.

>>151222548
He didn't even write the VN.

>>151222329
Most people don't really give a shit, it is just a few autists here that do.

>>151222548
Aside from some of the character dialogue being OOC there he isn't betraying shit though. If you want to get technical about it 8man's arc is pretty much over already and girlfriend-wise he could go after whoever the hell he wants. The main story is blatantly going in one specific direction but the VN's light-hearted what-if scenario is just that, a fun what-if.

>Sells out
LNs only exist to harvest cash. It's why it got an anime adaptation and all that merchendise at all. If Watari wanted to write some sort of respected work he'd do that instead (and probably opt for a different medium altogether), he "sold out" long ago.

>>151222650
If it is just a few then they're very vocal about they're dislike of it.

>>151222744
The point is, at one point you could have said that Oregairu wasn't another one of those generic haremshit series. Now it is. There's nothing fun about any of this when the entire community treats the series as harem. You guys can make all the excuses you want to and defend Watari until you're out of breath, but this was a terrible mistake and it has affected everyone. The people that care about the series have all fucked off ages ago. The only thing that remains is a sea full of waifufag cancer. You have every right to pretend like everything is fine and dandy, but it's not.

>>151223130
>side material and threads on /a/ change the source material
You are really fucking retarded.

>>151223722
It's not just threads on /a/, but comments on youtube, reddit, mal, gamefaqs, twitter. This shit is affecting everyone and it's making everything about the series less special. People on other sites that once had a high opinion on this were disappointed when they heard that this series was getting a vn and another. They said shit like: that's too bad, I expected more out of this series. And that wasn't on /a/. On reddit everyone only cares about what girl 8man ends up with, no one is talking about anything about the series. The anime was an absolute botched adaptation, so even that's a failure. This entire series is simply falling apart day by day. You can notice it everywhere. But you're right, I'm just stupid.

>>151224004
Seeing how 2ch is reacting to it no one cares too much but a few waifufags and the rest are just mad that vol 12 is taking forever. The actual audience that the author and show runners consider, ie not you, reddit, 4chan, MAL etc., don't care as deeply about this. The reaction to the game was fine and expected, nothing out of the ordinary.

>>151224734
The people that bought volume 7 of the bd, that came along with volume r, left behind a lot of negative comments about how they're upset with the delays and out of character writing from his side novels. Are those people also not his target audience? Watari is upsetting more people than he's pleasing by doing this.

>>151224856
Show me the link. I can read moon just fine.

>left behind a lot of negative comments about how they're upset with the delays
That is the common sentiment and I don't deny that. Everyone is mad that vol 12 has been delayed for so long.

>out of character writing from his side novels.
I haven't seen this one before, I have only heard only complaints that Iroha, Sensei, and Haruno not interacting with 8man much in it or people making jokes about how this romcom is not wrong as expected.

>>151225066
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%84%E3%81%AF%E3%82%8A%E4%BF%BA%E3%81%AE%E9%9D%92%E6%98%A5%E3%83%A9%E3%83%96%E3%82%B3%E3%83%A1%E3%81%AF%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A1%E3%81%8C%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B%E3%80%82%E7%B6%9A-%E7%AC%AC7%E5%B7%BB-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%89%88-%E8%88%AA%E6%9B%B8%E3%81%8D%E4%B8%8B%E3%82%8D%E3%81%97%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB%E5%B0%8F%E8%AA%AC%E5%90%8C%E6%A2%B1-Blu-ray/dp/B00VPHB13M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Does this link work? I may have screwed up somewhere.

>>151225127
I have seen multiple complaints that the last episode was hard to understand, that the anime adaptation was shit, bitching about ANOTHER being copypasta and that it is only fun for Yuifags etc.

I will admit there is a comment in there that expresses sentiment that yahari has changed for the worst and is cheap, he feels that 8man wouldn't be so kind to girls that have feelings for him. There is another person who thinks 8man+romance is straight up bad.

I am not seeing ANOTHER cheapening the show, just people are upset with WW and what direction he took the show in. Most of the complaints are from before he delayed vol 12 for a year.

>>151225777
Also to add to this I didn't read any comments with 4 to 5 stars so if there is something that I missed I am sorry.

>>151222329
>The romance was always there but the it got more prominent over the time and towards the end it pretty much became the only thing going on
Let me ask straight: secondary-kun or just a retard? I understand why an anime-only might think that way, but if you actually read the LNs then you wouldn't be telling bullshit like this.
While i can agree that romance actually established its presence in a latter half of the story with Yui being all into 8man (and still questionable, but a love triangle is forming within the main trio, even though 8man didn't really show any of a love interest in neither Yui or Yukino), romance even now remains secondary to the main plot and i hardly doubt that this fact will ever changes. That whole "genuine" thing wasn't created to be just a plot device to return 8man to the club and pair him with some girl. If you can't even understand that, well, then i've got nothing to talk to you about, it'll be just a waste of time.

>>151227350
Yui's thing has always been romance. From day one the third most important character in the series was all about romance. I agree that it isn't the main point even now but it is there.

That being said there is nothing left to develop with 8man, he is on a good trajectory.

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>>151206492
It's because it has an actual quality writer, unlike most anime, which are written by fatass manchild nerds.
Anything that Wataru Watari does is basically gold by the normal standards.

>>151228213
Quality code was ass. Girlish number is at least entertaining.

Yukino is shit too and she is his main heroine.

>>151228213
If he's so good, then how come the best character is apparently made so by the animators

>>151217517
>yui's shorts
muh dicc

SAIKA WIN

>>151228081
While Yui's love was always here, actually it was kinda irrelevant for the whole majority of the series, it was never brought up directly, it never was something that drove the story or even significantly affected it in any ways, and it was only shown to us during hints throughout the story (even if those hints were blanantly obvious, especially in anime).

I said that romance established itself only in a latter half because before it was not even secondary, it was really almost nonexistent and irrelevant to the plot. And now things have changed a little bit - Yui's love actually became relevant to the plot. Now, plotwise her love is used for the sake of pushing Yukinoshita to make her own decisions. It's a main key to Yukino's character development and growth now. The last conversation within the main trio wasn't really about a cookies or some shit about who gets 8man. It was about how Yukino should confront her problems by herself, how Yui is actually fine with superficial, how 8man is hardly opposed to the idea of superficial relationships, and also that was a (yet another) lesson to 8man to not delude himself with an images of others in himself.

This conversation had contraposed Yui's and 8man's ideologies, we clearly see a conflict here between the two. That's why 8man rejects Yui's way to solve the problem even though Yukino was about to accept it. He just can't accept it. If he'd accept it, he'd betray himself, he will be forced in superficial relationships within the club members and will lose a chance to find his "genuine". If he'd accept it, there would be a lie, there would be things left unsaid, forming a wall between them. So he declines it. Even knowing he'll never reach what he want, he chose to pursue what he really wants.

That whole scene may appear to be romance, but... You see the main thing - romance isn't actually a focus point here, it's more of a plot device to be utilized to show the viewer something other, something more.

>>151230112
>That whole scene may appear to be romance
It didn't to me. Yui's side was mostly motivated by it but I never thought that was what was on 8man's or Yukino's mind. The scene where she talks in front of the fish tank is mostly what I thought was on Yukino's mind.

Yukino isn't part of the romance so romance will never be the main thing.

>>151206796

Yeah around the middle portion of the second season I noticed goddamn is this show slow as fuck and plodding with confusing teen melodrama and not a whole lot really going on. At least the first season injected enough personality and satire into the characters conversations to give it some personality, the second was just straight boring teen melodrama for the most part.

>>151216141

Is she some sort of shitposters favorite or something? Like I very VERY vaguely remember her character from the snoozefest second season of the show as that stumbling bumbling student council president character but literally why else would people be so obsessed with her one way or another since she barely stood out to me as a character at all?

>>151231200
She's shit in general. Her fans are a cancerous bunch. You're not missing out on anything.

>>151216342

People that fling shit at one another all day about shipping regardless of where the discussion is headed and then blame the other party when it's the very act of being retarded shippers that derails threads period killed a good chunk of not only /a/ threads but discussion on anime. Now this is pretty much what it's all about always and everything else that happens in a show gets completely sidelined as discussion points. It's fucking stupid but then this is what the fandom has chosen and seems to enjoy engaging in now as what it means to "not be a normalfag". I don't even think 2ch believes in this whole act like a degenerate shitposter who claims to have a waifu or elsebe labelled to close to a socially respectable human being (Oh the horror of such accusations!) thing as hard as /a/ does.

TL;DR: /a/ and the greater anime fandom is a fucking joke in 2016 and Saekano, Yahari, Fate, Buyfag, Seiyuu and assorted circlejerk threads are a symptom not a direct cause.

>>151230784
Glad you understand it properly. I'm just so sick of people thinking OreGairu is an actual romance story or even worse - a fucking harem, and people not even comprehending the gist of what's going on, the motivations of the characters and the meaning of words they say; i ended up in result by being triggered by anyone who says something about a romance in SNAFU.

>>151231408
Then what was in Yukino's bag and why was she keen on giving it to 8man?

>>151216425

And Qualidea Code, don't forget that masterpiece in the making with the holy trinity of light novel authors whose writing styles don't go together well and glorious A-1 consistency in animation.

Seriously though he really should have just stuck with his one surprise hit in retrospect instead of getting ahead of himself as LN authors have a tendency too a lot of the time. Most of them are one hit wonders at best for a reason.

>>151231488
Just because Yukino has a crush on 8man that doesn't mean oregairu is about romance.

>>151231497
He should have just finished it a year ago and then moved on. None of this ANOTHER shit, none of this visual novel shit. People would have remembered his series fondly.

>Iroha will never be your kouhai

>>151231590
Thank god.

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>>151206492
IROHA OR DEATH

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Its still an anime, but it had some really natural chemistry between the characters some times, it was very refreshing.
On a side not, the characters were quite relatable and likeable as well, very interesting show.

>>151216909

Honestly small communities that anime's dedicated English speaking shitposters don't know about and where you have to register and immediately have moderators eyes on you is your last sole remaining bet for halfway decent anime discussion about literally any topic nowadays. The discussion will be way slower but your chance at quality banter and no histrionics is way higher. MAL, /a/, ANN, Crunchyroll or anything with a high population and dedicated shitposters is pretty much a guaranteed lost cause no matter what it's about cause they're too full with idiots that have the run of the place now. It'd be nice if moderators in these places actually started doing their jobs more and took care of the obvious shitposting accounts that you shouldn't even really need a trip to detect but no can do I suppose.

>>151231692
Except Yukino

>>151231783
No Yukino is great as well. The problem is she's been stuck in her lowest point for a year and a half.

>>151216909

That's just the discussion now as it were. Some series get their own mind numbingly stupid sub topics based on I guess memes that get cycled and take over literally every thread about a show but the default conversation that most modern anime fans seem capable of and are willing to have is over waifufagging and shipping. I think it just gives them the best outlet for shitposting, falseflagging and stupid arguing, kind of like Console Wars tripe with /v/ that it can't help but start with even the slightest opening. Like 4chan especially really fucking loves having the same discussions and arguments thread after thread for some reason that eludes me. There could even be a new novel for this and I bet the threads just stay completely static or are about shitposters fishing for any angle or fodder they can use to kick it up to the next level.

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>>151217930
Tough choice between Komachi and Saika route desu

>>151217930
>Only 2 girls involves kisses
And this is how we know who the best girls are

>>151231488
Yeah, i know what you're trying to say, but as i said before, even if Yukino starts to fall in love with 8man, that doesn't change the fact that romance is still a secondary tool used to express the primary ideas. You should pay more attention not to the content of her bag, and not to the fact that she prepared it for 8man, but to the reason she didn't gave it to him in the end. It's because her indecisiveness she couldn't, and THAT is what really matters here. Even Haruno pointed it out for her. You just don't seem to focus on right things, which is crucial to this series.

>>151231916
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A3mwvdBzKHPnk4ZRKuM4dhloWJX-9HCY0aXzeFpGWjU/edit#gid=0

So being cynical about it makes it better than all the other shit like this?

>>151217161

Welcome to virtually every popular anime series threads on /a/ in 2016. It's kind of just over at this point. Anime and it's fanbase really just aren't fun at all to be around anymore and at this point I feel like I'm just finishing out the year and season and then basically just fuck it all for Winter as usual. If the fanbase ever sorts out it's tremendous baggage and shitposting problem and the quality of anime coming out goes up again it'll be worth paying attention to again, but clearly as 2016 is closing out that's still a lot of shit for these people to sort out.

>>151231649
Pretty much what these threads are like. Yui and Yukinofags assdevastated by Iroha's superiority and trying to claim everyone who doesn't choose their shit girl is a shitposter. But they still get beaten back every time.

Iroha or Death

>>151221769

When you think about it the first season came out in 2013 and what a different look for not only anime at the time but the community and it's behavior in general. I don't even think the anime fan in me that has been dying out in the last couple years wants to go back, I just want to go back in general because not even 3 years ago this hobby and things in general sucked so much less

>>151232064
I want to take this purity and innocence and marry it.

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>>151232125
too late anon

>>151232074
No, Irohafags are partially to blame for dragging this series down. It has nothing to do with butthurt. I really do not like how you people conduct yourselves in these threads. I obviously can't stop it, but I can at least express my dislike.

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>>151232046
It's not just /a/ anymore. It's everywhere. Youtube, MAL, Reddit, just fucking everywhere. Humanity is apprently so miserable that they all need to attack something to feel better about themselves. Anime is never going to be great, because the community is incredibly awful.

>>151232214
s1

>>151232249
Is talking to yourself on /a/ that much fun?

>>151232280
I agree with everything that person says. I too notice that there is an actual problem with the anime community as a whole. Stricter rules need to be enforced. Mods really need to do their jobs.

>>151232350
its like video games
only a few ppl played them becouse of fun but then it become mainstream
shit happens to anime too

>>151223130

I'd like to say your preaching to the choir but yeah...I mean I totally get where you're coming from, but the unfortunate problem is you still kind of care whereas most people still here are just underage shitposters that probably don't even watch these shows and just follow discussions and archives and copypasta shit and try to start fights over it. That's all they care about really and probably giving you some smart ass generic greentext reply calling you a retard or "normalfag" or something. Any other forum in any other decade the mod staff would have long since taken care of these shits instead of just letting them run wild and overtake an entire community with a pathetic amount of ease. Now the people that actually give a shit about these shows seem to be in the minority while the shitposters run most of the OP's and can derail a thread at will. It's been pointed out to the mod staff enough that if they gave a shit about dealing with it they would have already.

>>151224004

That's the thing I've noticed too. Despite /a/'s stubborn claims that it's one source and everything would magically be fixed if those people just stuck to one forum it's literally everywhere there's a sizeable anime community now. Like this is just the anime community in 2016 unfortunately, a small collective of people that have been following anime for years and a huge fuck ton of underage shitposters that have suddenly been given the loudest voice of all for at least the past couple years.

I'm not really sure why people are blaming Watari here though. I mean circumstances beyond the source material itself clearly make the community. People don't have to be complete shitheads about this stuff and it's clear that the people that actually care the most about the material aren't the ones shitting up threads so it strikes me as yet more completely misplaced blame and an inability to look inward to see that the current community and it's instincts towards shitposting are.

>>151232350
All communities are shit. Quit whining.

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>>151232461
Anything that gains any kind of popularity only ends up going to shit, because people are shit.

>>151232589
You are part of the problem.

>>151206492
I'm trying to read this shit and can't believe there are 11 volumes. Zeroth Maria was fucking 7, and it seems so much fuller than this. How do they stretch it out?

>>151232280
He's a known samefagger.

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/146509987/#146510300

>>151224734

Well yeah you're talking about actual fans in Japan versus Western shitposters that don't give a fuck about anything else hopping on the most convenient looking waifufag thing to act as fuel. Saekano S2 coming out should pull most of them off of this series next year when it comes out in Spring. In fact I expect /a/ to be dominated by painfully forced shitposting waifu wars topics and dozens of daily generals and baiting OPs about that franchise but by that point I'll be long fucking gone from here anyway. Feel bad for anybody that actually expect things out of /a/ and plan on still being here in Spring 2017 for that guaranteed shit show.

>>151232527
You know it's bad when even sites like MAL and Reddit simply allow people to use words like fag and cancer without doing something about it. Those things have now become part of the anime culture. It's not that I'm sensitive to that (not anymore after spending years here), but it does show what direction the community is going in. There just needs to be better regulation.

>>151232527
>still samefagging your depression on /a/

>>151232280
Yeah, cause ofcourse it's just your only one guy and nobody else is pissed off by this situation and can agree with that point of view.

>>151206492
Season 1 was good, season 2 was mostly garbage that I couldn't even finish and I rarely drop a series. The few scenes that the characters I liked were in wasn't worth it.

>>151232527
So then how do we fix this? Do we go back to being elitist pricks?

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>>151208108
She 's cute but she doesn't get enough time to really have much of a personality outside of "bitch with a heart of gold" and thus inferior to the main ones

Here's hoping she wins her man

>>151232311
Nice tits. Who is she?

>>151232983
A mature Yukino with a massive growth spurt

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>>151232983
After losing the Hikkibowl Yui tried for an image change.

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>>151232350
>Mods really need to do their jobs.
Like deleting all your off topic meta posting so we can go back to discussing how Iroha will win

>>151232527
>I'm not really sure why people are blaming Watari here though. I mean circumstances beyond the source material itself clearly make the community. People don't have to be complete shitheads about this stuff and it's clear that the people that actually care the most about the material aren't the ones shitting up threads so it strikes me as yet more completely misplaced blame and an inability to look inward to see that the current community and it's instincts towards shitposting are.

I agree with everything you say, but Watari should have some sense to know just how immature animeviewers are. And I really don't think this is a Western only type of thing. Watari simply made several mistakes, the biggest one being that he didn't just finish it when the series was at the height of its popularity. Everyone here has had to suffer through these daily threads of people shitposting and that just tires you out. As much as you pretend like it doesn't get to you, after a while everyone simply grows tired.

>>151233350
My Iroha thread yesterday got deleted and I got a warning

>>151232350

Like I've said multiple times in this thread it didn't even used to be this bad arguably even a year ago. The quality of shows has been going downhill since about 2014 but the community just going to complete hell and cycling through these endless shitposts and manufactured wars that really don't need to happen only feels like it started gaining steam towards the end of 2015. The first time I really started to notice just this massive rise in samey shitposting topics overwhelming every other point of discussion was with Sound Euphonium, not because of that show specifically but the whole manufactured fan war between Kyoto Animation the studio that animates that and SHAFT who animated the second Nisekoi series that season.

That fake studio fan war dominated shitposting regimens for several seasons afterward but now the whole forced us vs. them thing just seems to have spread out to dominating any and all anime discussion in general, especially where it's remotely possible to have a shipping war that bloat series viewer and post counts and make them look more popular and cancerous than they are. The studio fan war thing seems to have died off a bit now, but it's arguably lead to even worse shitposting because now it's just a general thing and if it's even remotely possible to have a shipping war with a show good fucking luck discussing literally anything else cause that's the discussion you're going to be forced to have now and enjoy having shit flung at you about your apparent choice in waifus whether you actually give a shit about any of that crap or not.

There's a reason some of the few remaining tolerable anime related forums had banned shipping discussion years ago in anticipation of exactly this gateway to cancerous shitposting and derailment that ruins communities hard and fast.

>>151233374
Your love for Iroha was clearly false

this show huffs its own farts

>>151232626

I think that's my main takeaway from 2016 as a whole. People just kind of suck now, especially those that buy into the internet's crap and increasingly tendencies towards just using it to shitpost 24/7. Maybe people just start needing to give a crap about something that actually matters again instead of just pretending to for the sake of carrying on an argument I don't know. Like actually truly give a shit and not just being one of those self-righteous fuckers that latches onto an emerging controversy or situation that's trending on twitter just so they can say they had an opinion and commented to feel better about themselves.

>>151233452
The problem is that so many of these younger people simply copy the behavior of others not knowing just how much damage they're doing. There are obviously always going to be assholes that shitpost just to ruin the enjoyment of things for others, but if everyone could band together and tell them to fuck off, it would be better. But no one is standing up to anyone and the end result is this cesspool of shitposting and continuous cancer that is simply spreading everywhere. People take the cultural behavior they experience on 4chan and then take it to other sites. And this applies to other things as well. I don't know if you;ve ever seen a twitch stream, but jesus christ, those comments are mind numbingly awful.

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>>151232833

It's fucking hilarious that shitposters will try to paint the situation like this to a predictable fault. It's one of the only tactics they have to continue trying to disrupt and maintain this idea that god forbid more than one person could be just tired of this shit and the lack of anybody with actual power doing anything to make the community less horrible and hostile over absolutely nothing again. That and claiming people just want a "hugbox" when really they'd just like the shitflinging, falseflagging and fake fan wars crap to be given a rest for even a day or two. Anyway thanks for not being a shithead and giving me a rare rational discussion on these boards. If I had a favorite character in this show it'd probably be season 1 Yukino by the way, reason being her bluntness and the VA that plays her made her an easy favorite at least at the time. Her character wasn't nearly as fun in the second season though with all the mopiness that IMO killed the core casts personality and chemistry that made the first season engaging.

>>151233518
Many people like it because the MC reminds them of when they were that age: pretentious, misanthropic, narcissistic and sexually confused. Someone who likes to preform autofellatio in the comfort of his own "safe space" before being slowly dragged out of that life style.

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>>151233922

You know what even I actually had thought I had made more posts in that whole string but apparently only 4. Not only is there no real samefagging going on, but I'm actually participating less in the discussion than even I thought. Either shitposters are just really desperate here or they've clearly forgotten what an actual discussion looks like. Hard as it is to believe with the way /a/ is now but it IS actually possible for two posters that are in fact different people to agree on a matter. Like I know dedicated shitposters love the whole bit where they claim to hold polar opposite extreme positions from one another constantly and that makes for quality not "normalfag" /a/ culture but that's kind of just there problem really if they can't recognize the reality of the situation.

>>151233922
>only discussions that agree with me are rational

You've had many discussions showing how stupid you are, fuck off. This meta shit didn't even belong here, take it to /qa/.

>>151223130
>The point is, at one point you could have said that Oregairu wasn't another one of those generic haremshit series.
What, up until around halfway through Season 1? This series has been "muh deep depresed misunderstood MC who actually has his dick sucked by everyone around him" for ages.

>>151234171
No in season 2 the entire point was that Hachiman's methods were bad. It wasn't properly adapted, but that has never been the case. The LNs really just describe everything better.

>>151233589
>People just kind of suck now

People always sucked. The media and electronic communication obsessed world we're living in now is just giving us a mirror.

>>151233740
Because normal people used to go to Twitch and offer articulate comments before they all discovered 4chan

>>151223130
It always was a generic haremshit series with the twist that the MC is an autistic asshole (though two-three girls lusting after his cock is pretty small as far as harems go.) Nobody is really defending WW, most people hate him because he ruined the series with melodrama and is taking such a long break from the series even Kentaro Miura is jealous

>>151233740

Again I came to the same conclusion myself based on observation throughout 2016. Like you know actually paying attention to what was really going on instead of just jumping in and joining the shitposting like a drone. It'll be the death of the English speaking community before the decades end if it doesn't already have it it on it's deathbed. It's really no wonder the industry seems to be focusing it's efforts less and less on appealing to the West and it's community that is in utter chaos right now and has instead retreated into a Japanese fujo/otaku baiting shell as it's recourse. Those people over there are at least predictable consumers and the things they claim to care about they typically actually do and will spend money on. With Western fans the shitposting culture is just so rampant now it's hard to take any data you are getting from them at face value anymore making them a non-loyal potentially even hostile demographic that at absolute best might make up a tertiary support layer.

IMO the Western community does influence the industries output whether they know it or not simply by making the industry wary of them and taking their interests further and further off it's radar as has clearly happened more and more in the last couple years.

And yes it's just fucking awful looking to any rational minded person not fully committed to the now IMO dominant shitposting culture. I think it's fair to say it's moved beyond an emerging counter-culture without anime fandom and now just is the popular culture of anime related message boards and forums. Sad thing is things like the gaming community are arguably worse still even if the quality of the content is arguably better since it's not stuck catering to niches the same way anime is and can shrug off the antics of communities like /v/ and gamefaqs.

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>>151234119
>implying you aren't almost all of them

>>151234501
Again,

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/146509987/#146510300

his posting style is really obvious. Stop replying and derailing the thread.

>>151234231
Which is exactly why volumes 10 and 11 were expertly written masterworks and not terrible at all, no sir.

>>151234365
Thanks for your clever insight. Thank you for helping out. Oh, you sure love to wisecrack, but at the end of the day all you've said is: it is what it is, why bother trying to make a change, let's just allow things to become even worse.

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>>151234501
No.

>>151234540
>derailing the thread
Because Iroha or death ad nauseum isn't derailing the thread right? Fuck off, we're discussing how awful you people are. You dont have to read it.

>>151234127

>It's another classic twist what people are saying into an easily dismissed strawman reply #1387584

Why this shithole community is never getting any better? No matter what you say or argue to them they think everybody is an extreme full throttle shitposter like them and treat all conversations as such thus inevitably driving the more neutral and open minded people of the community away.

Also thinking they can track people's posting across forums doesn't help much either. Like I know shitposters really think they are the most clever people on the planet that can recognize anybody based on what they think they know about their posting habits, but the sad reality is you just kind of can't really. Oh well, nothing lost, nothing gained there really.

Lastly nobody is stopping you from flinging your shit over waifu wars. It's not my job to make you not feel threatened by multiple people calling the board out on it's obvious bullshit in a thread where it had been heavily on display

>>151234501

As a conversation drags on and you post a little more in it your share of the posts does tend to go up over time yes. That's the nature of a prolonged exchange.

>>151234667
>if people are discussing something I don't like I get to shitpost in their threads

And you guys claim to be trying to improve /a/. Laughable, you guys are even worse, because at least Yaharifags actually discuss anime.

>>151234772
>if people are discussing something I don't like I get to shitpost in their threads

Motherfucker, you faggots have been doing that for 2 years now to the point where you have driven away other people like me that actually do care. Do not try and play that card, because you do not deserve it.

>>151234772
"Discuss anime"? What the fuck are you talking about? Since when shitposting and waifu-wars are falling into the definition of "discussion"?

>>151234858
>if discussion is about what I don't like it isn't discussion

Waifu wars are related to anime, your meta shit isn't.

>>151234667

This, unfortunately I have other matters to attend to so it's up to other people now. If anything though my last observation is that shitposters just seem anally devastated that instead of getting to fill another thread with their copypasta shitposts about waifu wars they themselves got sidetracked and called out on how horrible they make the modern anime community in 2016. If nothing else I take solace in the fact that it turns out shitposters are a lot more thin skinned and flappable than I thought and they get especially bothered when they don't get to completely have their way with a thread for a change. It's not like the discussion is fantastic or focused on the series nor will it stop shitposters from just engaging in another round of the same old antics the next time there's an Oregairu thread but the change of pace from what could have been waifuwars redux thread #1843155 is a little cathartic all the same.

>>151234772
And don't you dare call yourself a Yaharifag, you're just a waifufag, i'm sure you don't even understand the show and you're the one of those idiots who view Yahari as a fucking harem. Don't you dare call yourself a Yaharifag after that. What you provide is not a discussion, it's a damn cancer. It's just painful to watch how one of my favorite series got the threads full of people like you. Fucking disgrace.

>>151234955
Before you leave, report the thread. I've reported it as well, but apparently the mods don't care.

>>151234580
Better than trying to imagine you can be a community leader and guider of discussion on a fucking anonymous message board you moron.

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>>151235076
Your favorite series got a VN, it's haremshit to most people, deal with it. If you don't like waifu wars so much, then report them, but instead of getting your lazy ass off to do that you'd rather do meta shit in the threads.

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>>151235348
Yui needs to learn the definition of personal space

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Fuck off Yukinofags. Yukino is a fucking whore.

>>151235392
It's like they don't understand that series like this tend to have VNs that are nothing but "fuck the waifu of your choice canon be damned" It comes with the territory

These sort of VNs don't affect the main series and never will but they don't understand that. I'd understand if he kept complaining about the VN because yeah it's shit and poorly written but he seems to be made of salt over "MUH SERIES IS NOW A HAREM FUCK VNS"

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>>151235584

>>151235597
Ignore him. Just ignore him. I don;t like the VN much but this isn't a world ending event.

>>151235597
>canon be damned

Dude Ive seen faggots on video game boards that when given the chance refuse to name the main character anything but the "cannon" manga place holder name

Modern faggots couldn't role play if their life depended on it

>>151206492
Its wish fulfillment for some.

Its the edgelord you wish you were back in those days.

>>151235597
>but they don't understand that
What you don't seem to understand is that it's doing damage to the entire series. That's the point people are trying to make. And that's something you can't refute.

>>151235837
Sorta hard to do that when more than half the thread is dedicated to his hatred of it and how it supposedly ruined the series and how that spiraled into a terrible meta discussion on "wahh things suck now"

>>151235931
It's not a well written role to play. I'm not opposed to the player having the opportunity to romance someone like Yumiko or Saki or any of the others but I am opposed to routes not giving any thought to the territory that such a route would cross and meander through and having it be so sloppy.

>>151236168
>a noncanon cashgrab of a VN
>doing damage to a series

I wouldn't doubt it. Retards like you always let such an obvious and standard issue ploy for money affect your judgement

>>151236367
>standard issue ploy for money affect your judgement
It doesn't affect me. I dislike it for being made, but it affects others because they are using events that happen in the VN as evidence for who Hachiman has feelings for or the best relationship with or *insert some other inane argument*.

>>151236489
And why should you care about what other people think? These people who obviously have the mental consitution of a five year old if they're genuinely using the VN as a source to back up whatever the fuck they are saying?

>>151236755
Because then some other retard chimes in and says: "yeah man you're absolutely right" and then it snowballs from there. People are fucking sheep. All it takes is one retard to spam something and suddenly it becomes a thing.

>>151235076
Are you the shitposter that was in every Yahari thread since the 2nd season?
>>151234844
I guess so

>>151236831
Obviously, someone spammed "the VN turned this series into a harem and it made me feel bad about enjoying Yahari" and now we have people who won't move on and let it die. It's SHIT. Most people here agree with that. If someone from Reddit or MAL uses thinks otherwise, let them. They are entitled to their dumbass opinions and you can ignore them and there's no chance of you waking up to a world where WW decides to write an omnibus ending to the LN.

>>151236168
For me, it damages nothing. I'll never buy it, i'll never read it, i will pretend it had never existed and move on with the origi... Oh, crap, vol.12 is still not yet. Dammit. Guess i'll wait then.

But i personally don't mind any of milking with spinoffs and other shit as long as they don't affect the original series. And i don't understand those who takes these spinoffs too seriously and tries to back up their opinion based on it. That's just ridiculous. Especially when it comes down to shit-tier byproducts like Yahari's VN.

>>151237147
>Iroha a shit. A SHIT.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. Thank you for your wonderful contribution.

>>151237147
I agree.

Also why is the autist butthurt about a harem anime being called what it is?

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>>151237147

>>151237196
>But i personally don't mind any of milking with spinoffs and other shit as long as they don't affect the original series. And i don't understand those who takes these spinoffs too seriously

Have you met Yuipollfag?

>>151237232
Because they think it's some deep treatise on life and the virtues of being a loner when it was always a goofy fun show with a edgelord MC being thrust into the role of a harem protag

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>>151237239
her sister tho

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Iroha's got this in the bag

>>151237382
Iroha has her own dick in the bag? That's some weird shit.

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>>151237382
best part

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>>151237317

>>151237313
The fact that you would even suggest it's about "virtues" of being a loner shows how far you are from understanding it on a basic level. Why am I not surprised that waifushitters are legitimately stupid?

>>151237313
Not to kick open a bag of worms, but like this guy said

>>151237442

That's not the thing that was lost here, more just the meaning of the entire series and growth of Hachiman, Yukino and Yui. But I'm not going to go into it.

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>>151237444
disgusting

>>151237538
Dude, we know Yui is disgusting, but come on. No need to be so mean about it.

>>151237538
>that winning smile
Holy shit. What does Yui want?

>>151237579
dog penis

>>151236998
>Are you the shitposter that was in every Yahari thread since the 2nd season?
No, i wasn't even here during this time. What is going on in 4chan's SNAFU threads is hardly a discussion and gladly i had better places to discuss Yarahi than here. And now i just kinda periodically stumble on these threads here and it's just awful to witness how anons fail to understand what Yahari is really about.

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>>151237420

>>151237442
Well, what is it about? Because for the past three years I thought it was a fun series about a edgelord MC being in the position of a harem protag and having to grow as a person out of his pretentious little spell that he's this deep and brooding character and should just enjoy life.

>>151237518
Oh wow thanks, I didn't know that I couldn't read a post responding to mine unless someone else replies to both mine and the responders post. Thank you

>>151237601
Does she want a dog penis to penetrate her or does she want to have a dog penis?

>>151237637
You're welcome. But it does show that you don't understand the series.

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>>151237444
Yukino is easily the ugliest

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>>151237601
Naw bro, she wants rock hard Hikki cock.

>>151237624
Most of us understand what the series is about, it's just that there is nothing to talk about since we haven't had story progression in a fucking year and a half so the threads are just shitposting.

>>151237708
Well, I've always found Iroha to be a mutt. Her hair color is the ugliest and just her eye color and hair color don;t mesh well.

>>151237730
I thought she wanted to fuck a dog or some shit season 1 was confusing about that

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>>151237730

>>151237693
What's there to understand, it's autistic teenagers trying to deal with their problems and understand the complexities of human interaction

>>151237830
There's a bit more to it than that but sure

GOOD IROHASU!!

the show is fine
the fans are cancer

>>151237624
You sound alot like the shitposter that was in every Yahari LN thread

>>151237896
That's incredibly out of character for everyone involved.>>151237933
C

>>151237853
There's not much more in my view but whatever. Let's agree to disagree

>>151237896
King of manlets.

>>151237444
into the trash it goes

>>151237538
delicious slut

>>151237708
Waifu material

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>>151237957

>>151237954
>There's not much more in my view but whatever
That's kind of the problem

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>>151237957
That sight will break her

>>151237967
trash tier taste buddy

>people actually discuss something, they get called shitposters
>actual shitposters continue shitposting, they are the heroes of this series
Typical. No wonder this fanbase is in such a shithole.

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>>151237993
It's not a problem on my end buddy

>>151238044

>>151234231
>No in season 2 the entire point was that Hachiman's methods were bad
This is been the point since the beginning. Season 1 literally ended with pretty much everyone straight up saying this to Hachiman and the audience even, I dunno how much more blatant they could've been about it.

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>>151238114

>>151238094
It's pretty safe to say that the entire fanbase is cancer.

>>151238135
Yukino wasn't bothered by them until he started throwing too much weight around during the STUCO election arc.

>>151238204
There's an entire missing piece that happens in between season 1 and 2 that would have explained it better.

>>151238135
no in s2 8man from edgy lord became an ordinary japanese male so that the audience can become one with the mc

>>151238094
>People discuss metashit that belongs on /qa/
>Heroes, every last one of them.

At least the shitposters know they are shitposting

>>151238135
Pretty much. The final conversation with Sensei that season springs to mind but everyone was so drenched in Batman memes that none of her words stuck

>>151237708
Is she canonically the ugliest one? She certainly looks that way.

>>151238247
I know what it is, Yukino demonstrates how it affects her by almost going ballistic on Tobe.

>>151238321
No, something different with Sagami in volume 6,5.

>>151237518
>That's not the thing that was lost here, more just the meaning of the entire series and growth of Hachiman, Yukino and Yui.
Hachiman's growth has not been lost, it's straight up finished. He was a socially autistic no-friends loser who kept self-harming himself with his over-analysis of everything, he's since corrected that and has autonomy over his life now.

Yukino and Yui "arcs" revolve around whether or not 8man will pursue them or not, everything else is an extension of that. So nah, that hasn't been "lost", it's there and shallow as ever. Story seems aimless now because 8man was the only character with some sort of depth to him and aside from him picking a girl to nut his story is moreorless done now.

>>151237643
Both simultaneously

>>151238352
Yeah but the incident with Tobe made it seem like the consequences affected her and were quite emotionally charged.

Yeah, she helped clean up his mess but she didn't do it again.

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>>151238305

>>151238387
No, quite a lot has been lost. In the main series Hachiman is constantly struggling with opening up about his feelings. In the VN it seems like it's the easiest thing for him to love someone. It cheapens the entire journey.

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>>151238435

>>151238204
>Yukino wasn't bothered by them
Not relevant.

It's been evident since the beginning that 8man's autistic way of life was self-damaging, to the point where other characters say this to his face. It was fairly evident that 8man was aware that he was digging a hole for himself but was struggling/scared to get out of it too. It's not something that suddenly started in Season 2, that was just where he reached his conclusion.

>>151238418
The incident with Tobe takes place after that. Yukino didn't want to have to go through that again.

>>151238398
The best ones are the ones where he is physically harmed or in danger from fall down stairs or carcinogenic breath

>>151238454
It's almost like the VN was written by a bunch of monkeys given typewritters for the sole purpose of squeezing more money out of waifufags. There was never going to be much of a journey there in the first place

>>151238304
Yes Yukino canonically is. It's why she's a loner

>>151238567
>what did she meme by this?

>>151237742
Welp, then just wishing that when vol.12 will finally come out, there would be an actual discussion rather than... This.
And also you underestimate the number of people taking the series completely wrong. I mean, just look, literally half of the thread is claiming that Yahari is a romantic story or a harem with their opinions based on superficial comprehension of the source and even on a non-canon spinoffs. And other half is just either too busy shitposting or too busy bashing shitposters to give their opinions.

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bump faggots

>>151238503
I know it takes place afterwards. I am just saying her response to Tobe seemed stronger emotionally. The anime does show that Yukino is bothered by it.

8man actually doesn't do it again after confessing to Ebina.

>Yukino didn't want to have to go through that again.
Yet she is willing to be president just to make sure 8man doesn't make an ass of himself.

>>151238609
I was talking about Iroha, but I'm glad that you agree Iroha's ugly. I was worried for a second I may have been the only one with that opinion.

>>151238633
>Yahari isn't a harem
>I know what I'm talking about

the irony