Flip Flappers

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THIS IS COCONA

WTF

>>151192691
It's not Cocona. Did you only start watching yesterday?

>>151192691
>>151192722
Alright, well, the amount of blue in her hair in that pic seems to suggest it's indeed Papika (because she's got long hair).

>>151192826
It's obviously Sayuri.

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>>151191736
"Very good day, ladies and gentlemen, from my channel, "Jose's [unintelligible] Kitchen". Today, we're going to be talking about the Cocona, this exotic fruit from the portion of the Amazon in my country, Peru. The Cocona is a citrus fruit, found in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest, part of the "Solanaceae" family, and is [unintelligible, possibly "very acidic"] and rich in organic compounds. This is likely due to soil with good drainage properties. It's considered the 'Tomato of the Amazon' and can be prepared as one, as well as mixed with salads. It has high nutritional value and is high in iron, vitamin B5, niacin (B3), as well as calcium, phosphorus, and small quantities of carotene, thiamine, and riboflavin"

Cocona is very nutritious.

>>151192934
I want Yayaka to lick Cocona's feet right now

>>151192722
>It's not Cocona
How do you know?

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Is this the next main thread? Time to dump my Papina/Cocona fanfic.

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Why do people insist on sexualizing this innocent little princess?

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>>151193033

>Cocona has been walking through an empty city for hours, trying to find any sign of Papika.
>"Stupid Papika, where the hell did she go?!"
>Cocona didn't even notice that it got dark, but the downpour of a sudden evening shower (夕立) brought Cocona back to her senses. She needed to find some shelter. The nearby building with a bright neon pink sign saying "HOTEL" looked inviting enough. As expected, there was nobody inside, so Cocona quickly snuck into a random room and hit the bed.

>>151193074
Because of her lewd body and her perverted mind.

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>>151193090

>While Cocona was contemplating her circumstances, the door suddenly swung open. >Standing there was a slender redhead in a school uniform, wearing a pair of devil horns.
>"Sorry for intrusion (お邪魔します). Welcome to our Love Hotel!"
>At this point the girl became flustered and went off script.
>"W-we don't get customers often... In fact, you're my first... so please... be gentle."
>"Customers!? Did you mean, guests!?"
>"Uhh... did I!?"

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>>151193074
I want Cocona to take charge.

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Papika should be more appreciated

>>151193074
She wants to fuck Papika

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>>151193074
>people
You mean Papika, right?

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>>151193124

>The girl entered the room laid on the bed next to Cocona. Cocona was too confused to do anything, so they just laid side by side awkwardly.
>"So, you wanna do something fun, or what?"
>"S-sure!?" Cocona decided to just roll with the flow.
>"Let's change then... By the way, you can call me Papina."
>"Ok, Papi...na. I'm Cocona."
>"Nice to meet you, Cocona"

Flip Burgers should be banned in the United states of America. It is really not good for our audience here.

>>151192934
Does she contain salt?

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>>151193174

>Both girls were now wearing sheer black dresses, which Papina retrieved from the room's wardrobe.
>"This dress really suits you, Cocona"
>"Y-you too, Papina"
>Cocona looked longingly at the window. Despite her lack of experience, Papina knew she had to take the initiative. She embraced Cocona from the back, pushed her on the bed, and started to caress Cocona's thighs. Cocona didn't try to resist even when Papina ran her hand under her dress and started rubbing her budding breasts.

>Papina was glad her first customer was a girl, she already knew how to make her own body feel good, so she fully dedicated herself to making Cocona satisfied. Cocona completely gave in, being overwhelmed with new sensations. A complete stranger having full control over her, fondling and caressing her defenseless body, it was strangely exciting. Soon, involuntary moans started escaping Cocona's mouth. "aah" "mmh" "haah" "feels good" (気持ちいい). However, just as Cocona started really getting into it, Papina got another idea. "Hold on a second".

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>>151193217

>While Cocona was trying to regain composure, Papina took a strange device out of a drawer. It was actually a Magic Wand massager, but Cocona haven't seen such a thing before. "Now the real fun begins!", Papina smirked. She forced herself on top of Cocona, pressed the tool against Cocona's crotch and pushed the button. Only thin fabric of already wet panties separated the vibrating head of the massager from Cocona's sensitive clit. "Iyaaaa", moaned Cocona, "stop it!", but Papina paid no mind to it, exposing Cocona's chest and licking her nipples, which became erect from excitement. "Such a naughty girl, is this your first time?". Cocona could only muster "Mhm", but the question made her think. "First time... with... Papika... Papika! It has to be with Papika!" Meanwhile, Papina was already taking Cocona's panties off, and pushing the vibrating rod against her bare flesh. The pleasure was unbearable and Cocona knew she would climax any second now. "I'll never forgive myself" thought Cocona as she gathered her last strength. "Enough!", Cocona firmly pushed Papina away and rolled to the other side of the bed, trying to catch her breath.

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>>151193136

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>>151193255

>"What's the matter, Cocona?"
>"Papika! I'm looking for Papika! I can't betray my friend like this!"
>"Oh well, I tried my best. Sorry if you didn't enjoy the service"
>"No, no, it was nice. It's just that..."
>"All right. So, um, pay up?"
>"... Huh?"
>"It's usually 10000 yen per hour, but since you're not from here it's 50000 yen. Oops, I wasn't supposed to tell this."
>"Actually... I don't have any money..."
>"Well, in that case... they told me to push this button"

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>>151193291

>A few seconds later the door was smashed open and a shady-looking thug, covered in tattoos and fully shaved except for one strand of red hair, barged in.
>"You gonna pay or what, Kisama!?"
>"I'm sorry, I didn't know! Please forgive me!" Cocona was in tears.
>"If you can't pay, then work it off! Come with me!"
>Cocona was led to another room. "Service one customer, and you're free". Cocona laid on the bed, her face buried in a pillow, dreading the next knock on the door.
>"How could I be so stupid to end up like this? Now I'll lose my virginity to some stranger for sure!"
>However, nobody came that day. And the day after that. Guess Papina was right that there weren't that many customers. The wait was unbearable, and as the days went by, Cocona almost wished somebody would knock. "I just want to see Papika again, no matter what it takes!"

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>>151193335

>Finally, on the seventh day, she heard the knock. Cocona gathered her resolve and bowed to the customer.
>"Please treat me well!" (よろしくお願いします) Cocona was smiling, through the tears.
>"Cocona!", the familiar voice greeted her. "I found my lost Cocona!"
>"Papika!" Cocona couldn't believe her luck. "Papika! I'm so glad you came!"
>"I love-love-love Cocona, so of course I did!"
>"Let's run away from here! Let's go home, Papika!"
>"I'd like to, but..."
>"What, Papika!?"
>"They take money upfront now, and I sure hope I didn't spend a week selling onigiri on the street for nothing."

END.

>>151193180
Nothing I find brings up the amount of Salt in Cocona.
>Corona whitham

>>151193381
>END
About time.

>>151193381
2/10 made me reply

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>>151193381
So is Papika going to get serviced or not?

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>>151193621
No.

>>151193621
She's gonna get Skippy back for all those nights with the peanut butter jar

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>>151193074
I have no idea.

>>151193666
Her voice in that sign was next level cute

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>>151193642

Yes.

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>>151193642
Get on your knees, slut.

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>>151193140
Has Papika ever used a comb? Her hair is very unkempt

>>151193829
She doesn't even know what a comb is.

>>151193829
Messy hair is the best.

Reposting from last thread.

If you haven't yet, vote for your preferred time/way to stream episodes 1-12.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11917951/
http://www.strawpoll.me/11917951/

>>151194011
Oh we're actually gonna do a marathon? Neato

http://is.4chan.org/a/1482196564839.png
Are there updated statistics somewhere?

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>>151194710
It has some neat symbolism, but please stop posting this shit.

I'm GAR for Yayaka.

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>>151194831
Now there's a word I haven't seen in a while.

>>151194899
Ded meme. Just like how Papika is going to be ded soon.

>>151194011
Hope you the correct subs.

>>151194607
No, it's results from a thread where you could pick your top 3.

>>151194710
Fuck off with that shit.

>>151194923
Yayaka still has the more deathflags and Papika has ED plot armor.

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>>151192274
Who else still recovering from episode 11?

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I... I wrote a song for Cocona.

You are my Cocona
My only Cocona
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Please don't take my Cocona away

I hope she'll like it.

>>151195105
>Hope you the correct subs.
By that do you mean GJM-DDY? I'll likely just use HS unless there's a very strong demand to use those instead or someone shows me a couple of instances of corrected mistakes for that release.

>>151195205
Ep 11 was healing compared to 10 thanks to how it ended. I was devastated after 10, but now I'm ready for PapiYaya to kick ass.

>>151195205
nigger I haven't gotten over episode 10 yet

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>>151195205
Really liked this flashback and how it ties directly to the confrontation afterwards. Episode 1 prepared me for some dark shit to come and I'm enjoying this ride.

>>151195266
Don't worry, she'll like it

>>151193168
dat. ass.

>>151195266
daikirai

>>151195429
INFJ-san

I haven't seen any kind of review or analysis about this show yet, what am I getting myself into?

Anything it can be compared to?

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>>151195306
>>151195293
>>151195295
It just had so many hearthbreaking moments
>Salt wailing that Mimi didnt told him she was pregnant
>Cocona being taken away
>Cocona crying when she met Mimi
> Salt kneeling imploring for yayaka to save Papika because he basically has lost everything
They have been through so much, I hope they are happy in the end

>>151195489
It's the evangelion of rolling girls.

>>151195489
Imagina if Madoka and Eva had a baby but it ddint sold as nearly as many BDs as both of then

>>151195504
I didn't expect to like Salt as a character at all, but now I love the SOB and want them all to be happy.

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>>151195306

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>>151195266

The KKK took my baby away
They took her away
Away from me
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away
Away from me

Hey - ho
Hey - ho

I don't know where my baby can be
They took her from me
They took her from me
I don't know where my baby can be
They took her from me
They took her from me

>>151195489
You happy now?

>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/flip-flappers/episodes-1-2/.107685

>>151195560
I also love Sayuri and Hidaka. I expected them to be background characters that got zero development but I'm they've all had awesome moments.

Flip Flappers is my chosen opiate.

Just so bummed this ride is almost through

>>151195606
delete this

>>151195489
Watch it and find out.

>>151195489
Flip Flappers is the Evangelion of Space Dandy, the FLCL of Madoka, an avant-garde post-modern helter-skelter aggregation of, more or less, discordant phantasmagorical acid trips laced with yuri fanservice in which all current partaking female's breasts are no larger than A cups.

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>>151195591
The KKK took our baby away.

>>151195699
>Flip Flappers is the Evangelion of Space Dandy
More like the Space Dandy of Evangelion, but accurate.

>>151195591
Why do you all know this old music? I only know it because of my uncle. I never see people even close to my own age who likes anything from the 70s or 80s, or even early 90s.

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>>151195489

It's like Madoka but with lesbians

>>151195699
>tiddies
papicake tho

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>>151195699
>no larger than A cups

>>151195606
I remember when I had hope for this show too

>>151195704
Oh sure now you want to be a father.

>>151195951
>current

>>151195927
It's like lesbians but with Papika

>>151195927
So, normal Madoka?

>>151195927
It's like lesbians but with girls.

>>151196045
Madoka is het end. The only het pair in FLFL got BTFO.

>>151196065
Well to be fair there's only like two male characters, and one of them's a rabbit, and the other one is happily married to science

>>151195951
>>151196001
Don't forget that that was originally written long before Papicake showed up.

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>>151195927
It's like top but not even 3

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>>151196065
Not so fast.

>>151196029
so, lesbians?

>>151196139
I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEM.

>>151196147
Lesbians.

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>>151196126
We, he is a great R E S E A R C H E R

>>151196139
If Yuyu had black hair she'd be the best femdom mistress design of all time.

>>151196147
Papika is too dumb to be a lesbian.

>>151196169
He plumbed her deepest depths.

>>151196191
she'd basically fuck anything smelled nice.

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>>151195754
D-did I just got compared to normalfags?

>>151195754
People on /a/ are like Papika. They're 40 years old and get flashbacks once in a while but they act like little girls.

>>151196224
and named Cocona

>>151196224
But the only thing that smells nice for her is Cocona

>>151196334
And mimi

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This is accurate

>>151196351
And she never even got to fuck Mimi

>>151196358
Well there's still time

>>151196334
You mean the amorphous in Coconas thigh, right?

>>151196228
No. You got compared to aging hipsters.

>>151196356
This is awful, go back to /v/

>>151196356
It's shit, fuck off

>>151196402
I'll do a proper one

>>151196402
I dont even play games

>>151196356
>muh feels
>shittiest eva lake scene shop ever
3rd frame is utter shite

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>>151196139
>>151196163
>>151196182
Cocona should be glad that Toto and Bu-chan were locked in with them in episode 9, otherwise Yuyu would have tied her up and spanked her among other things before stealing her shard.

>>151196536
Yuyu a big poop

>>151196536
Will they change sides?

>>151196536
Yuyu's the one who should be spanked. Her ass is made for it.

>>151196615
Well, most of Flip Flap still exists.

KKK is pretty much gone so...

>>151196631
I want to spank Yuyu. With my dick.

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>>151196556
Do you want to settle this with an arm wrestling match?

>>151196615
They will. Bleeding Toto foreshadowed this. Not sure if they will survive though.

>>151196718
I say we use our non-dominant hands.

>>151196800
>>151196615
Holy shit what if they're actually made of amorphous? As in, they ARE shards of Mimi? Will they fuse back together with her at the end?

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>>151196718
Naked wrestling match while covered in oil are my terms

>>151196800
>They sent a hurt kid to fight a mortal battle
I liked the KKK more when they hanged black people

>>151196846
Nobody can beat the Cockona.

>>151196718
How about a bout of Keijo?

>>151196908
something ain't right about those kids

How do you feel knowing Yuri on Ice will win the best animation award over Flip Flappers and Mob Psycho?
https://theanimeawards.com/best_animation.html

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>>151196846
>getting bullied by your junior on multiple occasions
Cocona is a dork and a loser.

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>>151196908
They should've never gotten involved with the IRA

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Eh, gave it a try.

>>151196953
>Crunchyroll awards mattering
>the abhorrent selection of nominees in most areas

literally who cares

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>>151196921
Bad choice. Her ass is even tighter than her grip

>>151196956
So Mimi's Irish?! Oh my god it all makes sense! the fairy tale world, the potatoes, the leap straight to fighting rather than negotiation....

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>>151195927
>It's like Madoka but with lesbians

>>151197126
What so you can't give your life for a friend's happiness without being gay?

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>>151196991
should've used this one

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>>151197031

The card will be a collection of images into one big image sent to them via Twitter using imgur. The due date for submissions is 12/30/16 at 9:00 am pst. Send all images to [email protected]

>Dimensions
600 by 600 pixels
>Why not here? it's an imageboard after all. we'd just have to reply your post.
Its hard trying to shitpost 24/7 to have to go around collecting images
>Why not real postcards? I want to send one. But there needs to be a campaign for it to mean something.
I'm not sure how this would be accomplished so I'm limiting it to digital.
>Who are we sending it to?
@binobinobi the directors twitter

>>151197145
>caring about friend's happiness
That's pretty gay, Anon.

>>151196953
>Flip Flap isn't a choice for best ED

I've entered the negative hecks to give zone because the choices in all the categories are garbage or don't even fit.

>>151197332
Wait. There are categories? Why is YoI even nominated for best animation?

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>Cockona

>>151197546
when are you going to stop posting that anon?

>>151197563
Never, I hope.

>>151197563
Every day until you like it.

>>151196953
>Boku dake's Satoru and Kayo nominated for best couple

holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck these awards are one huge shitpost

>>151197627
But I already like it

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>>151196991

>>151197381
Nevermore. Gays and Mob are nominated for everything.

>>151197669
I can understand Mob but YoI is atrocious

>>151197774
It's clickbait. They just picked the shows with the biggest fanbases.
I regret falling for shit like this every time.

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>>151197661

>>151198016
Was rolling girls any good?

>>151198085
Watch it and find out.

>>151197016
Girls with giant robot arms make my heart go doki doki.

It's not even a sexual thing, they're just really fucking cool

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>>151198486
Put it in 600x600 submission format

I-I wrote a song for Cocona

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>>151198410
I love cyborg girls in general.

>>151198588
No you didn't.

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I'd let her use me as a stepping stool to reach Cocana to kissu!

>>151198577
Thanks.
Not really sure where this submission thing is happening though.

>>151198623
She was so hot until she started losing limbs as weapons.

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>>151198016
This one is contingent on the ending

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>>151198653

>>151198749
Madoka is a good show. Comparing every single semi-serious magical girl to it is fucking stupid. Flip Flappers shares nothing but genre with it.

>>151198800
If you're so smart, why don't you make one

>>151198815
OK.

>>151198800
>Flip Flappers shares nothing but genre with it.

It does share a few attributes with it, but genre isn't one. Flip Flappers isn't much of a magical girl show.

>>151198853
I sincerely don't know what definition of Magical Girl you could be using that wouldn't apply here. What's the missing criteria?

>>151198853
>>151198800
I've made three already and it's hard to capture all of FLFL with a single image. This Madoka one is meant to capture the yuri and tragic elements. If you have better idea just make one.

>>151198853
It has a lot of mahou shoujo elements even if it is structurally different from the norm

>>151198896
That's because these aren't about capturing the entire show, they're about creating a punchline. That's why the massive WEGs filled with every individual aspect are stupid.

>>151198800
>this anon hasn't realized Papika is stuck in a time loop yet

>>151198887
>>151198938
If you have to classify Flip Flappers as anything I guess you could go with magical girl more than anything else, but I wouldn't normally call it "a magical girl show" and really it doesn't fit neatly into one genre.

>>151198947
I ain't making giant WEGs and distilling the theme of the show in one image is always superior than a random punchline.

>>151198887
There's a difference between a show that has girls and magic in it and a Magical Girl show. FF has a few of the genre trappings (henshin etc), but it doesn't really lean on them any more than it does on a ton of other things, so I wouldn't put it firmly in the genre.

Like, is LWA magical girl? Luluco? Kyousougiga?

>>151198947
>That's why the massive WEGs filled with every individual aspect are stupid.
The only one that ever worked was the first one, which was that one big one for Madoka. That's because that was part of the joke. Everything that's tried to copy it since completely misses the point of why it was made in the first place.

>>151198991
Based on what definition? I just want to know what you consider to be necessary and sufficient for a show to be a Magical Girl. I would call any show with young girls magically transforming and gaining powers to fight against their foes a Magical Girl show.

>>151199069
>tfw people copy your post almost word for word months later

What an odd feeling

>>151199069
I think the best WEG right now would be one that JUST had the EoE/Mimi 'shop in the last panel and no feels/image macro shit - if that 'shop wasn't so fucking terrible, that is.

>>151199067
yes yes and yes

>>151199084
The difference is that Flip Flappers isn't focused on the magical girl aspect. It's more concerned with Cocona and Papika's relationship and the adventures that they go on for most of it.

Collecting the fragments, transforming and fighting, etc. are all just accessory to that.

In most other magical girl shows a big part of the plot is BEING a magical girl, and what that entails. Cocona and Papika aren't traditional magical girls.

So yeah, Flip Flappers has some (even a lot) of magical girl elements in it, but that doesn't mean the whole package can easily just be labeled as magical girl.

It's like the difference between 'a yuri show' and 'a show with yuri in it'. Kannazuki no Miko is a yuri show. Madoka, despite a huge point of the plot being Homura is in love with Madoka, is just a show with yuri in it.

>>151199067
I don't recall LWA or Kyousougiga have a repeated transformation sequence. Luluco is an odd case since it's more sci-fi than fantasy, and a parody on top of that. I'd have to think more on that one.

>>151199251
And FF only did its transformation once in full, and I think like two times more in extremely abbreviated form. In 11 episodes so far.

That's a pretty bad argument.

If you had to summarize what this show is about, how would you do it?

>>151199209
Come on anon, you don't have to be retarded, it's just ruining your credibility.

>>151199322
That's more of a time constraint than anything. They're obviously magical girls transforming into their magical girl forms.

>>151199238
This is very vague. Ignore all the specific contexts, and just lay out how you define a Magical Girl show in a vacuum.

>>151199375
See:
>>151195489

Before the thread gets spammed wth the same shit over and over again.

>>151199375
coming of age story with a syfy setting that allows for episodic riffs on genres or concepts

>>151199193
That EoE shop is only funny but massively wrong. Papika is gonna die and PapiYaya is not a thing.

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>>151199395
thankfully i don't have any

>>151199375
Two girls, Cocona and Papika, go on adventures through fantastic worlds (every episode a different setting) to collect these things called fragments. The first 2/3rds are primarily about Cocona and Papika's relationship, especially exploring Cocona's feelings towards Papika, with several other mystery elements going on in the background. In the final 3rd more and more things about these mystery elements come to light and shit gets real.

>>151199401
>just lay out how you define a Magical Girl show in a vacuum
but that's useless

a genre classification only matters inasmuch as it has specific elements and tropes associated with it. this show borrows elements from the magical girl genre just like it borrows elements from all over the place

How do you all feel for an end where Cocona, Papika and Papika all end up staying in PI, leaving Cocona's body still possessed by her mom, just not so utterly bitchy anymore?

>>151199375
A loser and an autist go on magical adventures.

>>151199532
meant to say Cocona, Yayaka and Papika.

>>151199548
Only loser here is Yayaka though.

>>151199528
>defining your terms is useless

Anon, pls. If you can't come up with a neutral definition to use, then all you've got is a feeling that you don't agree.

Which is actually useless.

I only care about NyuNyu getting a decent ending.
Love that little shit eater. She's supposed to be the nutjob, but instead she's the most sane person, what with everyone else being an emotional disaster.

Any one have the stitch of Nyunyu?

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>>151199605
Yayaka is a winner because she is cool

>>151199621
>Male and female sign U+26A5 ⚥ Transgender, hermaphrodite (in entomology)
What does it even mean

>>151199421
I'm not wholly convinced it's a coming of age story. It doesn't seem to be really focusing on the transition from youth to adulthood. Some of the things it focuses on, like Cocona's indecision, can be used in those stories, but without the specific focus on the internal conflict that comes with confronting your age, I don't think it fits.

>>151199670
cockona

>>151199676
the climax has literally become about independence from your mother

Do you appreciate this show as a whole even more upon rewatching, or does it become bland to you?

>>151199630
The most neutral definition that doesn't involve useless stuff like "show about girls who use magic" is "anything that's based on Sailor Moon".

>>151199670
He likes traps.

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>>151199676
>series starts with Cocona being indecisive about her future
>series concerns Cocona learning grow up and accept change
>last episodes are about Cocona running away to her mom because change is too scary
>not a coming of age story

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>>151199716
>the climax

anon, you have a dirty mind

>>151199752
all or all but 1 protagonist being female is actually one of the few cornerstones of mahou shoujo

>>151199752
except the genre predates sailor moon

the traditional magical girl show is "a girl who uses magic after a transformation sequence in order to help solve people's problems"; the whole sentai action crap is what sailor moon popularized

>>151199744
I watch each episode superficially then again to look for subtext. Both times are enjoyable.

>>151199744
I've rewatched every episode three times and I've sat down and rewatched every episode in one sitting once so far. It's good shit every time. There's lots of subtle things you usually don't pick up your first time watching, and it works really well altogether.

>>151199752
You can craft a specific definition, it doesn't have to be a six word sentence. You can even lay out a list of things that must or must not be present. Also, those definitions are trash even on their own, the first being obviously too broad, and the second being completely wrong.

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>>151199634

>>151199652
PUNISHED YAYAKA!

I'm glad I started this meme

>>151199847
Oshiyama is a master in hiding plot in plain sight. I've done it three times on frame by frame basis and am still finding new things.

>>151199831
The genre was dead for a decade until Sailor Moon brought it back, and pretty much all modern Mahou Shoujo is directly based on either Sailor Moon, CCS or both.

Yes, I know that Sally the Witch and Creamy Mami are older. But they're irrelevant apart from making smartass remarks.

>>151199793
>because change is too scary

The conflict that drove her to her mother was not about change. Where the fuck did you even get that? Her conflicts have been based on a feeling of betrayal by those closest to her.

>>151199716
She's never known her mother before. We'll have to wait to see what the solution ends up being, but it's not necessarily "I"m grown up, so I can think for myself now"

>>151199927
that doesn't make your previous post any less wrong

>>151199927
Cutey Honey

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I want to fuck a cat!

>>151199978
Coming of age or accepting change is likely a trivialization of what the show is trying to convey. Probably because the show is making it too subtle but if you pay close attention you can observe severe psychological issues with Cocona even in ep 1. After ep 6 its psychological theme became more apparent. If anything this show started from a similar setting of traumatized children as in NGE but instead traversed a positive healing path.

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>>151199634

>>151200125
I've been continuing with the Umwelt theory since Uexkull was named, and it's working out pretty well. It also fits into the relatively common Japanese theme of overcoming our individual boundaries to understand each other better.

>>151200126
I don't remember her being this clothed.

>>151199744
The early episodes are a lot more enjoyable in restrospect, since I've become a bit lukewarm on the show after the last few ones.

>>151200125
but none of the main characters are traumatized children

Flip Flap's ending being about getting away from your parents would be pretty silly. Cocona never met her parents. Even worse, her only family turned out to be a robot spy.
It should, or at least I'd like it to, be about what family is, and how family supports you as you grow up. Clearly Mimi and Salt have as much to learn about parenthood as Cocona has to learn about becoming an adult.

>>151200126
i like this version better

the thong is just crass

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>>151200126
She has glassy blank eyes, like a goose.

>>151199858
>You can craft a specific definition, it doesn't have to be a six word sentence. You can even lay out a list of things that must or must not be present.

But that's not how genres work. You don't start with a checklist and then the Genre Definition Committee gives your show the Genre Seal of Approval. Things belong in genres if they feel like they belong in that genre, and that's not something you can "prove", only debate. And just by looking at this thread, you can see that Flip Flappers being a mahou shoujo anime is at least debatable because it's one in some aspects but doesn't fully fit the formula as laid out by the standard bearers of the genre.

Is it more of a mahou shoujo than not at all, e.g. Fune wo Amu? Yes.
Is it less of a mahou shoujo than Matoi (which itself isn't exactly standard)? Also yes.

>>151200220
I think it's about communicating your true feelings to each other.

>>151199716
Does it really work for a protagonist who's never had a mother figure to begin with and whose struggles never really reflected a dire need or longing for one either?

>>151200205
>this is what KKK's internal ethics board literally believes

>>151199866
I wouldn't let go of this perfect little almost-human.

>>151200220
i'm not sure what you're understanding by 'getting away from your parents' here

what you said is perfectly compatible with a gaining independence angle and it's blatant how they set it up with mimi's dialogue lines and 'evil' overprotective personality at this point

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Rewatching episode 10
>The twins weren't in the list of people Cocona said she hated
Yuyu end confirmed. I just noticed she's wearing the same choker thing as Mimi too.

>>151200290
Well she told her the truth so

>>151200262
It basically is how genres work, but whatever man. Feel free to continue subjectively feeling your way towards answers.

>>151200280
it doesn't really work but then the show abandoned any pretense of coherent writing with the latest episode

>>151200325
Not him but why don't you try define the genre and then we can poke holes in your definition?

>>151200362
I bet you're really feelin that writer change, huh?

>>151200205
Cocona:
>Neglected children display attachment disorder symptoms and eventually form insecure attachments to their caregivers as a result of caregivers' unresponsive interactions. This disturbed attachment to their primary caregiver alters future relationships with peers by becoming emotional and physically isolated from others reducing the likelihood of forming emotional connections. Moreover, as a result of their past maltreatment, neglected children feel that forming intimate relationships with others loses their control in life and exposes them by increasing their vulnerability.
cf. Cocona's grandma, Cocona's isolation when she needed help with career questionnaire, the fact that she had 12 friends but none to trust.
>Neglected children demonstrate lack of emotional regulation, understanding emotional expressions by others, and difficulty in distinguishing emotions. When posed with problem-solving tasks, neglected children reacted with anger and frustration, and were less enthusiastic with completing a new task. Neglected children often have distressing memories of their past to which they regulate their emotions by suppressing them.
cf. Cocona's frustration about PI jobs, trouble with handling relationship with Papika, emotional outburst without understanding the situtation
Also argubly depression, and anxiety disorders.
>motor, language, and cognitive development significantly lower than non-maltreated children
cf. Cocona being bad at sports, home economics, how she couldn't even make a proper snowman

>>151200290
Oh yeah now that you say she kinda looks like Mimi

>>151200205
>>151200442
I don't think I need to argue for Papika and Yayaka being traumatized children

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>>151200531
Papika is normal child

>>151192274
all memes aside, why does everybody hate FLFL now? I know the writer changed, but what did he do wrong?

>>151200576
She's gay.

>>151200442
trauma:
>DSM-IV-TR defines trauma as direct personal experience of an event that involves actual or threatened death or serious injury; threat to one's physical integrity, witnessing an event that involves the above experience, learning about unexpected or violent death, serious harm, or threat of death, or injury experienced by a family member or close associate. Memories associated with trauma are implicit, pre-verbal and cannot be recalled, but can be triggered by stimuli from the in vivo environment. The person's response to aversive details of traumatic event involve intense fear, helplessness or horror. In children it is manifested as disorganized or agitative behaviors.
ie shinji seeing his mom dissolve into a machine, asuka being asked to kill herself before she sees her mom hanging, misato's thing at the antarctica

being depressed is not necessarily related with trauma and neither yayaka nor papika (who is not a child) experienced any trauma in-show to argue that it takes a 'traumatized children' setting

>>151200621
he ripped off phantom world

>>151192274

>Flip Flappers

Throw this anime in the trash, throw that trash in the dumpster, dump that dumpster in a landfill then shoot that landfill to the sun.

>>151200634
that's pretty normal for a girl her age.

>>151200621
Mostly there are people who either

1. wanted the show to stay magical episodic adventure without ramping up in seriousness, despite obvious hints that shit was gonna go done

or 2, thought it was going to get serious but had a certain idea of what it was going to be like and didn't like how it turned out (age gap, etc.)

>>151200651
never saw it. I felt like the show gave an Eva vibe but it was like that from the beginning

>>151200642
>Cocona seeing her mom explode
>Cocona being a human experimentation subject
>Papika getting picked off street from who know where and becoming a test subject
>Yayaka being a child soldier

>>151200732
as i said, all things you assume matter to the show because you externally assume they happened by thinking about logical reality; not things the show actually highlights or focuses on.

this is fiction, anything not inside the fiction is irrelevant despite how relevant it would be in real life

>>151200621
1. trolls
2. concern trolls
3. people who hyped it when it was vague and episodic and were smug that it wasn't like mainstream anime
4. people who only liked it for the ultra sakuga or pretty backgrounds and are now pissed that there's less of that
5. people who only rate anime plot by how completely unlike anything else it is

>>151199871
>you started this meme
you're my fucking phantom, kid.

>>151200816
The show is extremely subtle and if you rely on just looking at the show literally you get nothing.

yo where the pv at

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I made a vector of the Flip Flap logo, because Inkscape is the only graphics software an OCD autist like I am can handle.

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>>151200909
Nowhere.

>>151200923
stallman approves

>>151200909
In about 7 hours.

>>151200923
>flip flap logo is half light and dark
>characters have been flip flapping their light and dark sides all season

>>151200923
Yes but when can I get clothing with this on it?
I'm also extremely annoyed that the top, middle, and lower bars are not the same thickness

>>151200816
>this is fiction, anything not inside the fiction is irrelevant despite how relevant it would be in real life
"there is nothing outside of the text" - Jacques Derrida

Flip Flappers is a deconstruction, deal with it faggot

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>>151200923
Another anon mocked it up like so

I don't know if there's any clear shot of it in the show, but the alignment of the stripes here suits my autism better

>>151199744
I'm pretty certain that if this were a show I marathoned I would enjoy it greatly even now.

>>151193381

Cute end.

>>151201055
>I'm also extremely annoyed that the top, middle, and lower bars are not the same thickness

I didn't know they are supposed to.

>>151200621
>everybody
Oh look it's this meme again.

>>151199744
On rewatch I always end up enjoying it more and more because I'm less focused on catching clever bits of imagery and asking "WHAT DOES IT MEAN" and can just get carried along by the fun.

Episode 8 in particular has become my favourite after rewatching everything.

>>151201152
And you can actually find intentions in most of the shots.

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>>151201088
I think the overlap of the stripes into the other color is right, but it's hard to tell. I based it on pic related.

>>151201152
This.

Usual way of watching Flip Flappers:

>1st time: what the fuck is going on
>2nd time: Oh I get it. Wow, this is great!
>3rd time: I love this episode more than life itself

>>151201111
It's a pair of interlocking Fs, anon.

The thin bars are the space between the block letters.

>>151201224
I think I know what you mean. I'll probably try again tomorrow or so.

>>151201055
>clothing with this on it

If AoJ is still around with his site, you could probably convince him to make nice stuff with it if there's enough demand.

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The last episode was really bad.

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I...I wrote a song for Cocona.

I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I got it for the low low
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)

I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I got it for the low low
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)

Hit my plug, that's my cholo
'Cause he got it for the low low
If you snitchin' I go loco (go crazy)
Hit you with that treinta ocho
Thinkin' that I'm solo
50 Deep, they're like "Oh no" (no no no, please no)
Heard the feds takin' photos
I know nothing, fuck the po' po'

Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda
Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda
Whip it through the glass nigga
I'm blowin' money fast, nigga

I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I got it for the low low
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)

I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I got it for the low low (turn off)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)

36, That's a kilo (aqui)
Need a brick, miss my free throw (stay away)
I'm in love, just like Ne-Yo
Bustin' bustin', now he Neo
Free my homies, fuck the C.O
Fuck the judge, fuck my P.O
All this coke like I'm Nino
Water whip like I'm Nemo

Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda
Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda
Whip it through the glass, nigga
I'm blowin' money fast, nigga

I'm in love with the coco
I'm in love with the coco
I got it for the low low
I'm in love with the coco

I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco)
I got it for the low low (turn off)
I'm in love with the coco (coco, coco, coco, coco)

I hope she likes it.

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>>151200442
I think you're underestimating just how fucked up attachment disorder makes you. Kids with attachment disorder actually don't form attachments at all. They aren't just a little depressed and troubled-- they are full on feral, hide-in-a-box or stab-you-in-your-sleep basket cases.

Besides, does Cocona look she's not attached to Papika here?

Mimi, you might have a point, since we never saw her in depth with Salt and Papi, but Cocona definitely not.

>>151201463
The last episode is not even out yet, anon.

>>151201510
I ment the "latest". Baka.

>>151201484
I'm sure she'll love it.

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>>151201484
>coco

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I-I cooked a meal for Papika. I hope she likes it.

>>151201496
>mimi
I'm still mad.

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>>151201484
Papika holy fuck calm down

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My only regret for this show is that I'm not the main character and Papika's love interest

>>151201557
>she takes it and makes it into a stir fry or pot pie or something along with some shit from the forest
>it's legit delicious

>>151201551
TADA BANRI

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>>151201557
Made it in the 600x600 submission format

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What's a Papika that's inside a Cocona is called?

Surely they are going to sell some kind of good eventually.

>>151201628
>600x600 submission format
what is this for?

>>151201641
unborn daughter
her and her future boyfriend name their first child after her because she dies in episode 12.

>>151201649
Maybe they will sell some goods at C91.

>>151201666
Our thank you images to the director see >>151197222

>>151201649
If the early tweets from the Flip Flappers Twitter are correct and they don't go back on it, there's going to be a transformed Papika figure.

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>>151201697
The Infinite booth has some and there is one guy selling this.

>>151201641
Loco in a Coco.

>>151201668
That works too.

>>151201806
Come on you're supposed to get mad at the implied hetshit. You yurifags aren't even trying anymore.

>>151201649
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/514874

Updates never

>>151201557
>cooked

>>151201859
>yurifags
>reason to get mad about that post
Just because we enjoy yuri, don't confuse us with /u/

>>151201921
You're no fun

>>151201933
What do you want, would I be fun if I told you about having heard there's an unborn fetus Papika inside Cocona made me diamonds right away, as I have a fetish for fucking babies growing inside their mommy's womb?
Just finished fapping to a picture like that too.

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>>151201859
This is the only Salt you'll get here. But you can try again in the Hibike thread.

>>151195283
>>151194011
Why would you not use GJM-DDY?
Please get that release. The typesetting and timing are better, as is the quality of the raw. Theres literally no reason to use HS over them aside from just laziness

>>151192274
The ones that had a plot, so 9-11. Others are rubbish.

>Only 188 entries on danbooru

Why do the japs have such shit taste?

Do US releases of anime force you to watch subtitles if you aren't watching the dub?

>>151195754
Its the Ramones dude. Theyre not exactly obscure or ancient

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>>151202047
Maybe we have the shit taste

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>>151201184
this is from 10

>>151202047
Sadly is not a very good show outside the animation

>>151202108
You saved the crop I made months ago. At least we both share the same shit taste.

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cropped that godhand comic from a while back for the card

>>151198085
It really was, especially if you like old punk music. The ending was pretty lackluster though

>>151201805
Link?

>>151202174
>look at all the funny memes your fans on 4chan.org made Mr. Director!
Is there some way we can ban this faggotry?

>>151202432
https://twitter.com/dacowazu
https://webcatalog-free.circle.ms/Circle/13002503

>>151192934
It's funny because cona is slang for pussy in Portuguese.

>>151202452
have some respect for your history

PV when

>>151202452
I am sure as an artist he loves the fact his work is being appreciated, his tweets demonstrate that. It is very clear, at least to me, he made this series with a very specific vision. It not just some garbage churned out as yuri bait. Does he want everyone to buy BD sure, but if people want to send him cards why not?

>>151202624
No in saying you can't tweet at him or do whatever the fuck you want, but this shit just invites more cancer to /a/ that it certainly does not need.

>>151202488
I dont speak sushi what should I do?

>>151202700
/a/ has always been cancer, let it go. It is not worth the hate or aggravation. Your whole post amounts to stop doing what I don't like. It's pointless to argue

Ignore and hide if it bothers you that much.

>>151201055
>>151201224
Am I blind?
I only see two bars. What are these thin/middle bars you're referring to? Please help

>>151202070
what?

>>151202758
The negative spaces the two bars divide the square into.

>>151202886
Do some releases force the English subs is what I was wondering?

I was just reading 2ch post talking about how foreigners were saying about buying Flip Flappers BDs and then they were talking about how foreign releases are much cheaper but there are no extras or bonuses but that doesn't justify the price difference and someone said about having locked English subs too.