Did you like it? Or did you find it pretentious?
>>151171539
Pretentious shit with bad animation and art.
Not as good as the manga.
>>151171539
It started out ok and had potential, but wasted it all as it went.
Ping Pong Girls are better ping pong show this season, and Ping Pong despite its animation efforts didnt even had the best ping pong scene in anime ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZSItugYMJg
loved it. happy holidays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VIAU6FqpP0
>>151171539
I thought it was flawless, 10/10.
>>151171539
Fun show with a ridiculously good OST and an amusing art style. I should give it a rewatch one day.
>>151171539
literally one of the goats only people with no taste like
>>151171557
>>151171604
do not like it
>>151171539
The show isn't that terrible, it's pretty mediocre. The fanbase for the show though is terrible, say anything about it negatively and people flip shit.
>>151171675
yeah it because rarely something so unique and great appears but i guess its time to hate on it cause its being normified
>>151171693
Thanks for proving my point.
The overall story isn't anything special, and once you look past the "animation quality" there's not much into the plot
>>151171693
Unique? Maybe, also highly arguable. Great? It was not. Only the first part about the chinese sportsman could be called so. The show went downhill fast and failed to achieve whatever it tried to do.
>>151171722
>>151171731
nobody really can explain why they though it was shit. i can thoroughly explain why PPA is one of the greats
>>151171769
I can explain why Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume beats Ping Pong in all aspect as objectively better ping pong show and anime overall.
>>151171769
I just explained it. The story is very bland, the characters forgettable, and the animation style is either something you like or don't care for.
This is literally the problem with people who like PPA. Any objection to not liking it and people stone wall behind "not a real complaint about the series".
>>151171799
go lets hear it. But i doubt it
>>151171799
>Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume
10/10, if you are a lolicon
literal gold and a breath of fresh air.
I'm getting pretty tired of seeing the word pretentious thrown around on every fucking series though. I guess that happens when /v/ keeps migrating in with less than 300 shows under their belt.
>>151171539
No, it was trash.
>>151171822
you see here's the deal you think the story is bland because PPA was the pionner of the redemption hero best friend dark horse trope its just as with evangelion, where the series defines the trope and people go on to say that the characters are bland and all because of subsequent manga that piggy back on it.
I liked it. Thought it was pretty deep.
>>151171822
characters forgettable? name me another series that does a character similar to peco/smile
>>151171902
That doesn't doesn't change the fact that the story and characters came off bland in the anime
>>151171539
its a bit artsy with its unusual and everything, which i guess is why people call it pretentious? but in its artsy genre its probably one of the least pretentious things around.
it has deeper meaning but on the end of the day its just a story about two dudes playing ping pong, and it never pretends to be anything more.
>>151171928
if you say the story is cliche it would be a debatable point but the characters being bland is really unsubstantiated just think are there any characters with similar qualities to smile/peco
>>151171829
For one Ping Pong Girls is actually about Ping Pong - about characters loving it or finding their love for it over the mechanical play and ambition. Awakening feeling of joy PLAYING it, making their hearts throb.
Meanwhile Ping Pong was all about ambition - no one there actually even cared about Ping Pong itself. It was all about Ego`s, recognition and projecting.
Secondary Shakunetsu is better and more interesting show for actual Ping Pong players - aside from as mentioned above, displaying joy of playing a game, showing correctly the technichical aspect and focusing on actual Ping Pong elements. Mean while Ping Pong was not for ping pong players, but for those who watch Ping Pong tournaments on TV rooting so that "at least someone plz beat that chinese autists team!" and their nationals. The visual style kiled actual Ping Pong and made Dragonball Z out of it, and technical details, training were largely irrelevant - everything focusing exclusively on personalities and god given autism.
And last but not least:
Shakunetsu is great without trying to be pretentious and mature
It has far better soundtrack
It has far better direction making the matches truly engaging
It has better animation of ping pong and sakuga, since they dont look like acidic dreams of overdosed person
and most importantly - it has cute girls, and cute is justice.
>>151171953
this.
>>151171924
Watch more anime you newfag.
The unique art style of the original was used as an excuse for A LOT of unnecessary/lazy off-model animation and the additions to the plot and characters were hit or miss, but it still is a very good series; nothing unexpected considering the source material.
>>151171924
Tatamy Galaxy
>>151171822
>The story is very bland
True, but not how it is told and the characters aren't either bland.
>the characters forgettable
Why do you lie to yourself?
>the animation style is either something you like or don't care for.
I don't think you mean animation style but rather the art style of the show. The director did a great job, the animators too, Yuasa's animation is god tier. Though you are right that you either love it or hate it.
>>151171982
you clearly have not watched PPA kek
>>151171539
>no cute girls
0/10
Shakunetsu is better.
>>151172058
Nice projection.
>>151171982
Genuinely one of the worst opinions I've ever seen
>>151171982
Ping Pong Girls is better than Ping Pong the Animation because the story is about the superficial sport itself rather than greater-reaching themes and messages?
I feel like you went in to PPA expecting a typical sports show and everything it did more than that you brush off as pretentious, while only focusing on its surface layers through the lens of a sports shounen series.
Were you one of the people mad at the final episode because we didn't see Peco and Smile's match?
Also
>better animation
Just because the show makes a good picture most of the time when you pause it outside of action/movement scenes doesn't mean it's well animated. Ping Pong the Animation on the other hand is constantly moving and making use of screen space, and is a treat to see in motion.
>it has cute girls, and cute is justice
Oh, this wasn't a serious argument then.
>>151172073
no im serious, theres no point in replying to you. be it or not i cant accurately tell but im very sure you havent watch PPA. pro tip PPA was never about ambition it was about talent and passion go rewatch it
>>151172051
>True, but not how it is told and the characters aren't either bland.
It really is, no real twists, the series climax is pretty meh and you can see it coming pretty far away, and overall isn't engaging unless this was your first "sports" anime. Yes I know it was more about the friendship but even that was bleh.
>Why do you lie to yourself?
because if you had to ask me anything that made them unique for the show they were apart of I couldn't think of anything. Nothing made anyone stand out aside from the robot.
>Art shit
Not a fan of the style, it just looks ugly to me. I understand people do enjoy it, but I didn't care for it.
>>151172140
It is you are the one who didnt watch it apparently. No one in the cast played ping pong since they had "passion" for it.
But either way, no other reply to expect from Ping Pong fag.
>>151172160
source: someone who thinks you should turn your brain off for anime
>>151171849
/v/ main here with ~100 completed shows
I loved Ping Pong. It might even be in my top 10
>>151172217
Again see >>151171822
Just proving my point
>>151171982
>It has better animation of ping pong and sakuga
Yes, about 10 seconds every 3 episodes.
The Ping Pong fags that defend the shows nowadays are delusional.
It was once thing of big hype, attracting a low of attention and viewership on /a/ as it aired and nowadays you find only few people defending it and a lot shitting on it not because of /a/ liking to be contrarian - but because the spell of the show was dispelled as it aired, and most became disappointed and desilusioned as it went.
Take this seasons Yuri on Ice - compared to Ping Pong it is pretty much perfect show, the only people who`ll seriously dispute its greatness are trolls playing the "homo" card like others play "pretentious shit" with Ping Pong.
The difference in quality, direction and enjoyment of watching the shows is immense. Ping Pong is just not good enougth show to be called Great, it faded away exact and only for that reason.
Tatami Galaxy still recognized as great show now, meanwhile Ping Pong is largely forgotten only recommendable for non-standard animation.
>>151171539
How is that pretentious? All the animations are functional. If anything, it's too tight for my own liking.
>>151172192
>No one in the cast played ping pong since they had "passion" for it.
Literally Peco's entire character, are you retarded?
China and Dragon also, although not so directly as Peco. They had passion and the drive for success and honing their skills, with Ping Pong being their chosen sport. Even though those 3 are the only ones I'd say were passion-driven people, literally every other significant character's arc was about tackling the issue of working hard and coping with whether or not they were passionate for the sport, or whether or not their passion was worth it when they have to stack up against players born with true skill. Smile's entire arc is about being insanely skilled at Ping Pong but holding no passion for it, and what he should do with that: be successful because it's what he's good at, or find something that he's not good at but happy and passionate about?
>>151172263
It seems like everything the show was about and was trying to tell you just flew over your head, is that better? My comment was giving you the benefit of the doubt and suggesting it was a fault of your actions rather a fault of mental capacity.
>>151171982
I've never wathed ping pong girls but I'll definitely say that the focus of PPA was not ping pong. Yuasa needed a sports backdrop to present his themes and shit and the sport provided that. Trying to compare PPA on that front to any other show for a reason other than the projection of themes is no doubt a bad way to go, as it's made pretty obvious that the sport is not a huge focus.
The show was made to pick at the idea of devotion and enjoyment, which is why peco won at the end. It's the typical 'the guy having the most fun is the winner' theme, but presented in a way I thought was really well done. I thought the matches were made engaging because of this - it was more about the emotional involvement of the players and the ideologies behind each character clashing rather than an actual sport being played.
All that given. link me to some of that sound track, cause I find it hard to believe that ping pong's sound track could be beat so definitely. Oh yeah ps I'm a new guy in thread
>>151172302
It wasn't that popular when it aired, even on /a/. It gained notoriety because of course there will be backlash against so many of the show's viewers claiming Ping Pong to be 10/10 and anime of the year, but even still it wasn't that big. Most people heard about it and formed a negative opinion of the fanbase, but few people were watching it. Threads for Ping Pong on episode days more often hit bump limit due to a handful of posters bickering back and forth because a troll said the show was shit, rather than actually being a popular thread with lots of traffic.
>>151172308
And you are wrong again.
Neither of them had passion for Ping Pong. Peco used ping pong because it gave him feeling of success and self fulfilment, he had "passion" not for Ping Pog, but to be praised, thus why the whole conflict with Smile happened whn Peco discovered he`s not as good.
Chinese had "passion" not for ping pong - but for sport success to fulfil expectaions of his mother, trainer and country.
So in the end - it was all about Ambition, for which Ping Pong was just a tool.
>>151172338
It could be that you are just looking too much into the show and blindly throwing out anything I say with the excuse "too deep for you".
I got what ping pong was about, I'm saying there wasn't really much to get from it. The overall show, story and characters were pretty mediocre at best and at the worst if was forgettable. I've seen the show twice, there isn't much there.
>>151171539
So is talent real?
>>151171539
>pretentious
>>151172397
Peso literally says to Kazuma 'Ping pong is a freaking blast.' I'd say rewatch the show but you're a retard.
>>151172396
Pretty much, I remember when it was airing. Threads were mostly shitposting about people who tried it because the fanbase kept screaming out it was 10/10 saved anime.
The fanbase attempting to reinforce the fact that it is perfect is the only reason the show hasn't been completely forgotten
>>151172389
>All that given. link me to some of that sound track, cause I find it hard to believe that ping pong's sound track could be beat so definitely.
You should educate yourself who Monaca is and whe she is the best anime composer currently
Soundtrack is the best thing abotu Shakunetsu and what really elevates it above most other sports show
>>151172397
>Peco used ping pong because it gave him feeling of success and self fulfilment, he had "passion" not for Ping Pog, but to be praised, thus why the whole conflict with Smile happened whn Peco discovered he`s not as good.
That was the beginning of his character arc, but ultimately at the climax of the story and throughout his training regimine leading up to it he acknowledges his love of the sport and how much fun he has with it, and that's what gives him the drive to train so hard. Comparitively, Smile also trained his ass off due to the pressure of the older characters and his peers, and had much more natural talent than Peco but still lost the final match against an injured Peco because he realised he didn't enjoy or feel passion about ping pong. His heart wasn't in it like Peco's; he lacked the passion.
>Chinese had "passion" not for ping pong - but for sport success to fulfil expectaions of his mother, trainer and country.
That's what I said.
And it's starting to feel like this is headed toward splitting hairs on the definitions of ambition and passion.
>>151172486
Peco *
Why not both?
https://a.pomf.cat/zhjwue.webm
>>151172572
Man, that is a visually bland OP
Manga is better.
its a rare 10/10 and a national treasure.
>>151171539
I liked it. It was a nice change of pace and the opening theme is hype. Would recommend
It's a great show.
I would seriously have to question the taste of any anon who thinks it's straight up bad, but I guess cute girls is a must for some anons in their shows.
>>151171731
>failed to achieve whatever it tried to do
I love this particular brand of vague catch all criticism especially when anyone else could tell you what the show was getting at.
>>151171539
masterpiece and great pleb filter.
When someone doesn't like it you can assume that he is a shitter with under 1000 watched
>>151172843
Why would anyone subject themselves to the pain of watching so much shit is beyond me.
>>151172923
hi pleb
>>151171822
>the characters forgettable
I can see every point you've been trying to make (even though I think your viewpoint is stupid) but I can't understand this. Peco, Smile, and Kong are some of the most memorable characters and character dynamics to come out in the past few years of anime for me.
>>151171982
I get where you're coming from for the most part, but I don't think anything you're saying is about Shakunetsu being "objectively" better. It sounds like you simply prefer the sort of show it is over the sort of show Ping Pong is. One is a straight-forward sports drama with the focus being on the sport and achieving results therein, while the other is a character drama with table tennis as the impetus. The obvious differences are obviously going to divide opinions.
I tried watching Shakunetsu, but couldn't get past ep 3. It felt like a slog to get through (maybe in part because it covered so little of the manga in that time). Didn't really care for the characters besides Agari and so little was going on, just Koyori beating the others in repetitive matches. I think the manga has cool art and I was excited for it before it aired, so I want to give it another shot. Does it get better or change much?
pic related was better
It was really good, I preferred Peco and his upcoming self though, He was way more enjoyable in how he went from fatso to hero.
It's amazing.
If you dislike it you're a faggot.
>>151172923
>anime board
>why would you watch anime??
Get out.
It's kind of over rated here on /a/, but it's a good show. At least better than most of the garbage that is being aired every season.
>>151171539
It was good, but not the best from Yuasa
>>151171539
The live action was better.
Pingpong is absolute shipheap with shit-eating fanbase.
Any person would see the "climax" of Peco and Smile's battle as shitty animation but the fanbase would make the most ridiculous mental gymnastics describing it as skillful and artful sakuga.
It's shit, the animation is shit with lots of choppy animation that ends with a still while the audience is supposed to move their attention to the "panel" next to it, why'd they use panels as if it's an animated manga? because if they didn't people would realize how shitty the animation really is.
>>151171539
One of the few 10/10 anime that truly deserves it
>>151171539
9/10. Art was shit, but everything else was amazing. Love the OST.
>>151172192
Classic post from a person who has never pursued something they enjoy to their God given limit. When you take shit that seriously any passion you have towards it will be called into question and you could lose that passion. That was a major conflict in the show and each character had to deal with that a different way. If you didn't pick up on that look no further than the traveling ping pong player and what he realizes at the end, his journey represents the general story.
Ping pong is an anime for people who understand realistic ambition, honing a skill or a compulsion and all the doubt that comes with it. I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Almost didn't make it past the first episode because of that fucking animation style.
But I guess I'm a sucker for simpler, atmospheric, more philosophical shows after all and the style ended up suiting the overall feel of the show. I don't really like rating shows, but it's definitely one that stood out to me. I enjoyed it.
It was hysterical. One of the great anime comedies.
>>151171642
this. ping pong was tight af. one of the only anime i've seen that doesn't drag on and on and fucking on.
>>151171539
I really enjoyed it, the story was pretty average sports anime though and the spacing was pretty weird, sometimes really slow and then really fast (the part where peco went away and tried to kill himself was way to fast for example).
The artstyle is pretty unique and the main characters and "villains" were pretty well developed.
>>151171539
It was a couple of kids playing ping pong. Nothing really pretentious about it. I liked it.
>>151171539
It was awesome 9/10
>>151171539
Am I the only one who doesn't like Hoshi win in the end of the tournament?
There's no way Hoshi with his painful & severe injury can possibly beat 'the also genius' Tsuki in his 100%.
I don't buy it.
>>151177520
Peco was really talented, he just let his skills rust during the start but improved his game after the training montage (He beat Kazama with an injured knee after all)
>>151177653
>Peco was really talented, he just let his skills rust during the start but improved his game after the training montage
I'm not denying it.
>He beat Kazama with an injured knee after all
Yes.
But current Tsuki > Kazama.
Also, Peco already lost a lot of his stamina & his injury got worse right before the game with Tsuki began.
>>151177778
We don't really know for sure whether Smile was stronger than Kazama and I'm pretty sure that during the first serve Smile was surprised at how fast Peco reacted to his blows, showing that Peco wasn't that strained or that he's tougher than it looks.
That said I don't think it mattered who was the strongest or who would have won in that moment. The point was that Smile and Peco finally got that intense match they wanted. We didn't even get any scenes showing the point differences between the two, so I think the show is trying to say that the victor of that match doesn't really matter.
>>151171539
The show was excellent, the pacing was fucking phenomenal. I imagine a hell of a lot more people would've watched and enjoyed it if it had a more 'normal' art style. Much like Kaiba.
ping pong is a good barometer for how much of a faggot someone is, anyone who shits on it or can't handle it being shat on is a total ape
ping pong is good for several reasons and has something to offer most people, if the art style isn't your thing you can still be drawn to the soundtrack and characters, if the story isn't your thing you can enjoy the show for how it looks
if there isn't something about ping pong that you can enjoy and watch it for I don't really see how you watch any show
also anyone who uses the words pretentious to refer to anything should be shot
also the fact that the show isn't really about ping pong isn't a good criticism, the show never sells itself as being some technically fantastic breakdown of the sport that is true to its spirit or technical realities
you may as well hate on nearly every sport anime because most sports related anime are about the characters and their ambition or neuroses along with their rivalries and lives in general. even some of the more celebrated sport anime like Hajime no Ippo have characters that aren't particularly sold on boxing being the greatest thing ever and their entire passion in life, the sport is a means to their ends
>Hating Ping Pong
>Muh pretentious
That's why everybody hates you faggots.
You eat literal shit moe garbage and say it tastes good while holding back your vomit.
And when something that actually attempts to be something more, you nitpick every single aspect to make yourselves feel better.
/a/ fucking sucks.
Just finished watching it along with K-On!
Two things kept me from watching it. It looked like shit and the annoying fanbase, but i must admit after giving it a chance it is definitely one of the best shows of 2015 if not from this decade. Almost all characters have depth and arcs they go through, the pacing is just really perfect, the visual direction (this is different from actual visuals) is really clever when it needs to be and the story is simple enough for anyone to get it but still interesting enough make you think about what is shown. Easily one of my favorite sports shows. But some things bothered me, it's not perfect by any means. The show does look like shit for 65% of the time, and it animates like shit, lots of re-used cuts, quality everywhere, thankfully the direction of the visuals makes it bearable, in the hands of a less skilled person it would be unwatchable. I disliked the typical "everyone is related with everyone" the story later reveals and i didn care much for the soundtrack which people told me it was amazing.
Overall an 8/10 show, quite good, but it has it's flaws.
>>151178421
>he doesnt like moeshit
lol what a fag
>>151177520
his knee wasn't 'injured', it was aggravated. he just felt pain in it, athletes compete with knee or ankle pain al the time.
>>151178143
Nah, the vast majority of sports anime are indeed about the superficial spot. Just because the highly regarded ones bother to flesh out the characters doesn't make them about the characters. That's just basic storytelling.
There is literally nothing pretentious about Yuasa. He just enjoys making cartoons. He's not some dude exclusively into high art or complex narratives. He enjoys working on Shin-chan and Adventure Time. He's making a kid's movie right now. He's very creative and expressive but he always aims for accessibility. All you need to understand his work is to be human.
I really liked it. The Christmas scene is GOAT
>>151171539
What part of it do people even call pretentious?
The metaphorical stuff isn't even that wild and pretty easy to get. Is it because it's unusual for sports anime? i don't get it.
>>151172389
>link me to some of that soundtrack
I wish, soundtrack release e.t.a. six months from now. Have this as an example instead.https://my.mixtape.moe/jfvmem.webm
>>151171539
Don't do this to yourself OP, it's imposible. Anything made by Masaaki Yuasa will be always panned and seem as pretentious by this board, there no way around it. It saddens me really, this board has the "pop music mentality" of most teens, if it's different = pretentious/bad with no redeemable qualities.
I'm not saying PPA is good (or bad) or that I have the greatest taste in all /a/ (I don't want to sound pretentious sorry) but most people here just want the same shit, but with glitter and less smelly.
>>151179490
Because anything that looks different to most anime could only be doing it to affect importance and look special.
>>151171539
Unique animation sport theme with humanistic approach. I like it.
Also, Smile is literally me.
Not as good as Tatami Galaxy.
>>151172496
>(Smile) still lost the final match against an injured Peco because he realised he didn't enjoy or feel passion about ping pong. His heart wasn't in it like Peco's; he lacked the passion.
No he didn't, he lost fair and square. Peco reignited his passion for ping pong during the last match, which is what gave Smile his smile back.
>>151171539
Definitely one of the greats. Dynamic and near perfect animation, stunning soundtrack, unique story, perfect execution of the themes it sets out to explore. Would be better than all of the shit that airs nowadays even without relatable characters, but it has those too. I really can't think of a single flaw beyond a superficial dislike of the artstyle (which should stop bothering you after a few episodes).
Ping pong is a good example of finding people who've never seen a sports anime or had ping pong be their first sports anime.
>>151184160
That's because it's not really a sports anime
>>151171539
It's pretentious as shit.
>>151178421
>everybody who doesn't like a terrible, pretentious anime must be one of them there evil moefags
>>>/v/
>>151171539
The show itself isn't pretentious. Some of the fans are.
It has a simple yet engaging story and good characters. The secondary characters in particular were really great, like the chinese guy. The art style is very nice too.
My main gripe against Ping Pong The Animation is that I felt like watching manga frames rather than an actual anime, just with color and sounds. Animation-wise it's very poor.
It fell short of a 8/10 because of this. And I think it could have been better as a live-action series or movie.