It's really hilarious, a single character, just one ruined an entire series that was in the making for years as the top dog of manga.
How does she do it?
>>151162930
She's like trump, only a sign of a systemic issue
in this case it's a sign of the fact that the author is a 50yo batchelor
Sounds like a scapegoat for edgelords The things people complain about in Berserk were in force before she showed up.
>>151162930
WHO CARES SHE IS CUTE
Ruined?
She is the only reason to read this edgy crap
>>151162930
>crap
I'm sure you are just as famous and loved by the world as Miura.
Why do people hate her so much? She never seemed that bad to me
She is best girl and I hope she wins the gatsbowl
>>151164566
Too cute and moe for Berserk, and unlike the rest of gut's party, she actualy get some spot light
>>151164566
I always appreciated her. Unlike Isidro or that feather swinging faggot, but then again Berserk went to utter shit the moment Miura decided to make femto a hax0ring, omnipotent god who can bend space and time at his will.
>>151164566
Manimefags have an aversion to any moe and cute and think it automatically ruins their grimdark, sweaty male fantasies.
>>151164566
Series kind of began its decline when she came around and she's actually gotten the most focus out of the cast outside of Guts. Hell even now during the big Guts battles she has to have some form of presence.
I wouldn't say it's her fault and I wouldn't even say she's a bad character.
It's all on Miura really. Only thing on her is that she's a magnet for gigantic plebs. But that's kinda the direction the series is going.
>>151165351
It's always the authors fault anon the drawings can't choose to be shit.
>>151162930
Series has been in decline ever since he started this super team or whatever the shit it is where nobody does anything and just stare as Guts kills everything but tries to make you give a shit about them. The first arcs had characters that were basically just fodder or sexing.
I want to give her headpats
>>151162930
>How does she do it?
She has a butt that won't quit.
>>151162930
Waifufaggotry ruins everything it touches.
The more waifus a story has the worse it is.
>>151165351
Miura needs to man up and massacre half the cast again. Personally I think he needs to start with Casca.
>>151165143
>Berserk went to utter shit the moment Miura decided to make femto a hax0ring, omnipotent god who can bend space and time at his will.
So the second volume? Guts was helpless before them when they came for the count.
>>151162930
Magic.
>tfw re-reading Berserk
>tfw get to the Rosine fight
>tfw it's so fucking cool to see Guts back in his original state
>tfw we'll never see Guts go truly berserk again, setting himself on fire and taking a spear through the cheeks just to win, nearly murdering Jill
>tfw no Berserk fight will ever be as cool as this one, we'll never get to see Guts go this crazy again
>tfw all we have now is lifeless Guts, just chopping things up with no emotion, no real purpose
Hold me please.
>>151162930
>>151165143
I liked Shierke far more than chibi Puck and Isidro.
The only issue I really have about her character is that the WMD-tier magic she brought to the group mitigates the weight that fighting used to have. Now it's just a matter of waiting for her to charge up a spell and they can mow down entire armies without much effort.
But I guess upping their powers was inevitable if they were ever going to take on the Godhand in any feasible way.
>>151167426
> Personally I think he needs to start with Casca.
I don't think I could keep going if this whole journey was just built up to kill off Casca.
The party is huge though. They should ditch a few of the comic relief characters if they want to bring back the tension.
>>151162930
incredibly angry
>>151169526
>tfw all we have now is lifeless Guts, just chopping things up with no emotion, no real purpose
So basically how Guts was since the beginning.
>>151167613
Guts is only human.
If a dimensonal cutting sword can't even touch a godhand, there's a problem.
>>151169526
>>151162930
Her old is she supposed to be?
>>151170105
old enough
>>151169526
>tfw all we have now is lifeless Guts
I wouldn't say that he's lifeless, but he's been fighting for enough screen-time to get a word in.
Bring back Casca. That'd revitalize his dynamic in the group.
>>151162930
Holy shit she is cute. Maybe I should start reading Berserk.
>>151170066
>If a dimensonal cutting sword can't even touch a godhand, there's a problem.
youre retarded, guts isnt going to just cut up godhand in the end. the manga is going to end with griffith trying to take out god hand and failing dooming his kingdom in the fallout because it was all fated to happen again just like it did with skullking. but guts who is out side of causality will show up and do some small thing that will change everything
everything fucking foreshadows it going this
>>151162930
What's her name? Need to Google her for research.
>>151170141
She has a fat sexy ass too
>>151170024
Not at all.
Guts went through a myriad of emotions in the first few arcs alone. He cried when he ruined that one girl's life, threw up when he had to kill that other one. He displays extreme rage when fighting, but has a soft spot for kids, especially abused ones, so long as they keep out of his way. He's a brewing cesspool of hatred, self-loathing, anger and sorrow. His purpose is to kill every demon son of a bitch he comes across, and he'll do anything to kill every one of them. He experiences fear in combat at times, and hesitates to kill Rosine because she a little girl.
Now we have this absolutely life less Guts, who's supposedly "healed". I read Berserk in part to see Guts going berserk, and when he tamed the Beast of Darkness he symbolically tamed his own insane nature, ridding himself of that desperate urge to survive. It's boring now.
>>151162930
Go back /v/
>>151164566
Children hate anything not action packed.
Shierke at least plays an important role in what's going on.
What's Manifico do? When's the last time Puck or Isidro have been plot-integral?
>>151170216
No pics = Hoax
>Berserk is for waifufags
>HxH is for fujofags
Pottery.
Wait there came something after golden age?
>>151170237
Fucking this
>>151170651
I actually like Serpico, it was cool to see that there's still humans who have a chance of going toe to toe with Guts if they do it the right way, despite Guts being superhuman.
>>151170701
I think Serpico and Farnese are great.
They're the only ones in the new group that I'd say have character arcs that can compete with the backstories of the Golden Age.
>>151170791
I really like them, but I think they're a little too bland for that. I could definitely see them having a back story arc together like they did, I think putting them together would fill in any gaps that had in actual character.
>>151170791
i think they were all great until they got magic power ups, guts golden age gang didnt need any special powers to be memorable and useful
what a disaster that power up shit was
>>151170898
I think it made sense that they'd get some sort of upgrade if they were going to be in the thick of fighting apostles on a regular basis, but yeah, I miss the grounded tactics they had to work with before that.
And I miss Corkus.
>>151171016
I miss good Casca.
>>151171083
Dude, that scene has always given me a boner. It's just so fucking smooth looking and idk, the murder feels so good.
>>151171083
Wherever this series go, however long it takes to actually end, just let me see Casca healed..
We're so close.
>>151171152
>we finally get to the healing shit
>lolno hiatus for another year
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK
>>151170898
>Serpico gets a sword and cloak that summon the wind and defy gravity
>Isidro gets a blade that burns everything it touches
>Farnese gets a silver dagger
I like that her magic is taking on a different type of usefulness from Shierke's, but Farn got gypped in the gift department.
>>151171119
It's ruined for me by the fact that it's not right. How does her sword pass through the staff of the mace? It's clearly too close for her to go under it, so she had to have cut through, but there's no slice marks.
>>151171152
I want to see her reaction to the new Guts, if she even recognizes him. Guts was always a prick, but Guts nowadays is much closer to an actual monster than he is to his Golden Age arc personality.
>>151171210
>reading latest chapters
>only so many pages left until hiatus
>still had to make room for Puck's comedy bits
>>151171016
>I think it made sense that they'd get some sort of upgrade if they were going to be in the thick of fighting apostles on a regular basis
they didnt have to be, in the 1st 3 arcs guts wasn't just cutting people up real good he was also cunning as fuck, scirpico challenging guts x2 was his best performances in the manga and he didnt even need power ups to do it
>>151171274
>How does her sword pass through the staff of the mace?
Pretty sure her swing went above the guy's weapon, not through it.
>>151171274
? she uses the resistance from the mace to increase the speed / force of her sword when it finally springs loose
>>151171403
Oh shit, I see it now.
Casca is now officially even fucking cooler.
>>151171403
>female knight
How unrealistic.
>>151171274
>I want to see her reaction to the new Guts
I think seeing his scars and missing arm/eye will be a jarring wake up call to just how much time has passed.
His general demeanor has mellowed out during his time with the new group, but seeing the Berserker armor in action will probably bring up monster comparisons.
>>151171083
>>151171152
>>151171475
Adon please go.
I can't wait for another 10 just to see how Guts' party to level up and team up with Rickert's faction to battle against Griffith. It's not a hard job for Miura at this point now that most of pieces have been together.
>>151171560
read >>151170147
they wont ever fight griffith
>>151171274
I want Isidro to realise Guts is the 100 man slayer already. They keep cucking me with this shit.
>>151165143
>feather swinging faggot
Don't talk shit about Serpico.
>>151171302
Guts and Serpico's mind battles were some of my favorite moments, but I guess that a lot of the situations they end up in now are so over-the-top catastrophic that regular swordplay tactics can only take them so far.
>>151171274
>>151171692
~~~~SCREEN CAP THIS~~~~
while the flowerking and party is in dream land some apostles show up and try to destroy the wizard village so guts has to go ham and when casca comes too she sees guts going pure rage without wizkid to calm him down
>>151171727
>feather swinging
He hasn't lost a single tickle fight with Farny since the upgrade.
>>151171119
You can feel the weight of the swing too. The weight of everything in the shot.
>>151171739
ok, but all these situations weren't really necessary at all, and Serpico usefulness to the party doesn't have to be "i can kill stuff too"
he could have easily been the "brains" character, the berserker armour was a mistake
>>151171826
I agree, in that I preferred things when the group had to struggle without magic.
But I'm also not sure how Guts and company would come close to going up against Femto and any of his league of Extraordinary Gentlemen if they didn't have some kind of magical assistance.
>>151171233
What? It's not like Farnese can do things Shierke can't. Her magic isn't any different, it's just shittier.
>>151162930
>Edgefag
Fuck off.
>>151171083
>>151171812
Lord I miss the 97 version's style. And pacing. And atmosphere. And music.
>>151171152
>just let me see Casca healed..
She was raped by a demonic god cock.
Miura already foreshadowed the curve ball with Skull Knight asking Guts if Casca really wants to get fixed.
Casca is not going to be fully healed and more feels are coming for Guts so keep that pic ready.
>>151171980
I know, but she has little personalized familiars now, and will probably take on the shield-bearer role now that Shierke's helping Guts with the armor.
Narratively, I prefer her style of assistance to Shierke's summoning magic, which is basically a go-to win button.
>>151171890
they wont, femto will try to kill god hand. guts and friends will play a small part that will impact heavily and griffith will probably redeem himself in ozymandias fashion, skullking says at the eclipse is the time some small unpredictable thing in causality can fuck god hand up and even the god hand members say how you "cant account for everything"
>>151172141
what are you pointing out with that pic?
>>151172061
I take it as foreshadowing of how the healing process won't simply be an easy transition into how things used to be.
But I refuse to believe that the time on the boat was all for absolutely nothing.
>>151172179
gesric was the 5th godhand, grifiths mirror. just like guts is suppose to be void and become the 1st member of the new god hand, thats why he is carrying around a belith.
i dont know how versed you are in the lore / plot so i dont know where to start
>>151172283
>gesric was the 5th godhand, grifiths mirror.
what?
the wiseman that gaiseric tortured is the 5th godhand/void.
gaiseric is skull knight.
>>151172319
no, void is the 1st god hand, he cant be the 5th that doesnt make sense
the 4 angels who came to fight skull knight (the 5th member IE: griffith) who was already on earth are an already formed god hand with 5 members, how can he be the 1st and last member?
>>151162930
Farnese?
Her tagging along killed he manga, she and Serpico and even Isidro did fucking nothing till they got magic weapons. Farnese still is the only super useless one.
>>151172422
Different anon, but did they ever say Void was the first?
I assumed he was the fourth.
This is what happens when you work on the same story since the fucking 90s
>>151172485
Farnese is probably second to Guts in looking out for Casca. The emotional focal point of this whole expedition.
serpico and/or isidro need to die asap
>>151172493
they say he is the "oldest" god hand
>>151172422
void wasn't the 1st godhand.
the wiseman that gaiseric tortured called upon the 'angels' for the sacrifice and became a godhand in the process. (that's why void has a mutilated face)
it hasn't been shown how gaiseric became the skull knight but that's why there's a rivalry between the two.
i may be very wrong in assuming he was the 5th godhand but:
- void wasn't the first godhand
- femto is the last godhand
>>151162930
Shierke is cute.
What pisses me off is that stupid brat. Literally adds nothing to the series except terrible "comic relief".
I absolutely hate Miura's new art style
fuck all of y'all
>>151172526
Its cause its her literal ONE job.
>>151172555
skull knight mentions there is ONE other (possibly not talking about other god hands IE: the idea of evil itself) older then void
void is the 1st or 2nd god hand and it doesn't make sense then for their to be 4/5 angels when the old capital was destroyed
>>151172593
Still a more necessary role than what half of the group has been up to for a while.
>>151172642
>>151172555
but yes, void is probably the wise man who was tortured, but in my opinion void is actually the guts of skull kings timeline
>>151172642
>it doesn't make sense then for their to be 4/5 angels when the old capital was destroyed
it was most likely 3.
if it was 4 or 5, there's a major problem with the story.
>>151172556
Isidro is energetic and funny.
What pisses me off is the black swordsman. Literally adds nothing to the series except terrible gore. I'm not an edgy teen. Grow up.
>>151172593
She's got wards down. Kind of.
>>151172577
i agree, what the fuck happened
>>151172698
>if it was 4 or 5, there's a major problem with the story.
where? if you accept as skull knight being the 5th member and history repeating itself it all lines up. skullknight / grifith show up out of nowhere during a time of great strife and unite all the nations under one banner in a massive capitol city, void / guts who has a massive hate boner show up and fuck everything up with a sacrifice to get their revenge and start a new god hand
where are you getting 3 from?
>>151172778
>if you accept as skull knight being the 5th member
he can't be the 5th member.
slan referred to him as 'king' when they met which means she knows he used to be gaiseric. she would have mentioned something if he used to be a godhand.
zodd being the skull knight's rival hints him being another apostle.
>where are you getting 3 from?
because that would mean that 3 angels (slan, ubik, conrad) came and when void was created they became 4. with femto that makes them 5.
>>151162930
She is Lisa Simpson of Berserk.
>>151162930
That's not retard Casca.
>>151172928
>slan referred to him as 'king' when they met which means she knows he used to be gaiseric. she would have mentioned something if he used to be a godhand.
reminder that griffith is called the "king of longing" and gaiseric is an actual king ontop of that. she wouldn't have to mention him being god hand at all, in real life and well writen literature people don't call their siblings 'bro/sis' on the phone so the audience can understand who the characters are. especially if you are setting up a surprise reveal
>because that would mean that 3 angels (slan, ubik, conrad) came and when void was created they became 4. with femto that makes them 5.
that would also mean the old capitol was destroyed 200 years ago during the last eclipse that doesn't make any sense since you can direct quote shit happening WAY long before that. the midland war has been happening for 100 years even
nothing in your head cannon lines up m8, try not speed reading. thanks for the soap box i guess but im out
>>151172577
>>151173119
>>151172577
thats not strange at all for him to say that shit honestly, guts still loves grifith even after the sacrifice. the purest rage can only be caused by something you truly deeply care about. there is unfortunately no English word for hating and loving something at the same time
>>151162930
Schierke and the mermaid girl are literally the only worthwhile things in this manga right now and that won't change until the point where Guts fights the final bosses.
>>151173079
>gaiseric is an actual king ontop of that
which is why slan called the skull knight 'king'.
zodd knew of the skull knight's past as well when he asked if he intended guts to follow his
path.
this also means that gaiseric/skull knight wore the berserker armor at some point which pretty much takes away from him being a godhand.
neither zodd, slan, or flora (who also traveled with the skull knight) have hinted anything at him being a godhand which is pretty damn important information for guts.
>nothing in your head cannon lines up m8, try not speed reading.
everything about the godhand's past is basically head cannon at this point.
what isn't headcanon here is that major hints for gaiseric being the skullknight and wiseman being void.
people know that there are 5 'angels'.
we don't know why that is and what happened to the previous godhand members but hopefully miura will explain all that.
>>151162930
dont bully she didn't do shit
>>151162930
>shrieke has a nice butt
>is pure
>desperately wants the berserker D
yet there are no doujins of her being fucked by guts who is a large handsome muscular man
theres always doujins of lolis getting slammed by big faceless males so why not her?
Maybe there's been several god hands?
>>151173552
>shrieke has a nice butt
WHERE IS THE PIC?
>>151172141
>Femto will try to kill god hand
That's stupid and incorrect.
>>151172283
>gesric was the 5th godhand, grifiths mirror
Hahahahahaha
>no, void is the 1st god hand, he cant be the 5th that doesnt make sense
Here, I made a video for you explaining it.
https://youtu.be/Qzf1lp-DSbs
>>151162930
>that apron dress
Hnnggh she's just like a WMT loli.
>>151174966
Obviously. How could there have been a 1st God Hand but also a new 1st God Hand with Void?
>>151173301
>this also means that gaiseric/skull knight wore the berserker armor at some point which pretty much takes away from him being a godhand.
Exactly, why would a God Hand member wear a suit that enhances your physical abilities?
>we don't know why that is and what happened to the previous godhand members but hopefully miura will explain all that.
They were all killed by Gaiseric and some other person 1000 years ago seeking to destroy the 1st God Hand member.
>>151172555
Void was the 5th God Hand member 1000 years ago. After surviving the battle 1000 years ago and destroying Gaiseric's Empire, he became the 1st God Hand member.
>it hasn't been shown how gaiseric became the skull knight
The last wearer of the Berserker armor died of blood loss. Skull Knight's soul and body was likely transfered to a new shell where he could survive. When Guts meets Skull Knight before the Conviction arc, Puck mentions that he felt some elf magic. This is likely how he survived.
Essentially, what happened is that Gaiseric killed the past 5 God Hand members, including Void, and then died. Void survived by becoming the 1st God Hand member and Gaiseric survived by entrapping his body or spirit to a shell.
This is likely what will happen to Guts and Griffith.
Any other questions?
>>151164477
Listen to this guy OP.
Maybe she will marry guts and live happy life.
>>151170651
I actually would like Puck a lot more if he still had his connection with Guts going on.
I would say he was always kind of an underwhelming character in comparison to Guts from the very beginning, but his connection with him and his lighthearted attitude in a dark world did make him stand out.
He made a lot more sense in dark Berserk, since he was such a big contrast to every other magical creature we saw. He was a reminder of "there is good and innocent in this world too", both to Guts and to the audience. There is no need of such a remainder in lighter Berserk.
And also, I loved these moments when nobody from Guts' companions understands some internal conflict Guts is going through, except for Puck. I dunno, there was something really cool about that, how his role in the party was basically the one who gets Guts the most, despite being such a frivolous and unrealistic character. I also kinda liked the implication he was growing because of it too.
I think the fact Schierke is the one looking sad about Guts' past now was kind of a downgrade comparatively.
She plain doesn't have the connection with Guts Puck has. She hasn't seen him during his worst time and stuck to him anyway. I understand why she starts to get him, but she saw the Beast through magic, not through Guts' actions, so it just means less, I think.
She plays this role worse than Puck because of that. And because it was about the only serious role Puck had, he had to devolve into comic relief, which I kinda resent.
>>151171779
It may happen, but at the same time it sounds contrived and lazy.
Why would they appear during this exact time? This just screams "we want to make Guts fight".
>>151172191
Casca was a perfect 10/10 during the second half of the Golden Age Arc. I hope she cuts her hair again once she recovers.
>>151163083
Do you think maybe Miura thinks of her as a daughteru since he's, you know, a 50yo batchelor? Would explain a lot
>>151162930
Magic.
>>151170651
Farnese is cute!
CUTE!
Just one word - Idolmaster.
>>151164566
She made Guts and her group much more secure? It's almost like nothing bad can happen to them anymore.
>>151167426
>Casca
This madman literally turned best girl into worst girl.
>>151172577
At least his art quality is still good
By the way, I always wondered, what the hell is up with this thing?
If it requires a lot of sacrifices to make, where did they take them and how did they justify it to themselves?
Furthermore, the other witches call it "forbidden magic", but is this one witch really capable of gathering so many souls in a short time period? Or were they, like, souls of rabbits and birds?
The thing I thought when I first read this was that they kinda had one wicker man gotten through god-knows-what means, and they kinda saved him up for a theoretical invasion, so they were pissed that the other witch used it for something less than an army (and they kinda resented having this wicker man at all). But on the other hand, Guts basically defeated him without breaking a sweat, even if he is a ridiculous monster, this things just seems too weak for the effort spent.
In any case, what was up with these thing? Do witches secretly kidnap "mainland barbarians" for magic experiments or something?
And honestly, it's just wasteful. Griffith became a freaking king of everything with these many sacrifices, and yet these cunts are wasting all these lives to make a bigger scarecrow. Fucking wizards.
>>151164477
>only reason to read this edgy crap
>anything can be justified as long as it's not "edgy"
>in a dark fantasy
Post-Millenials were a mistake.
>>151164566
I love her. Much better than that retarded cumdumpster Casca. Loli witch is the girl that Guts deserves.
>>151177818
It's a Wickerman. It's a very old pagan ritualistic sacrifice where you burn a person a large wooden statue. There's only been one actual report of this from Caesar in his travels and everything else is hearsay.
In Berserk, it was most likely a combination of people being sacrificed and a execution tool. Considering that it's an old sacrificial item and that the island is protected by stones, it's likely that the witches don't use such a tool anymore.
>>151178511
Well, when where did this one come from?
>>151176561
I would imagine. I'm a weak from being a wizard, yet prefer being alone, and even I think about kids sometimes. I can only imagine what it's like for 50 yr old sage. What a trifling existence.
>>151178571
From paganistic rituals?
Want to know my view?It's the inhabitants of the island before the witches sacrificed all of them and took over.
>>151171794
He lost against Guts afterwards, dude hasn't had a big fight since. Dude has been regulated into the background scenes and the occasional mob killer scenes ever since.
Isidro also has the potential to be some real protege level of a fighter himself, we could also witness him mature as a person as he reflects and is effected by the fucking carnage around him. But no, he just regulated into Pucks and Schrikes gag partner. The potential is there for these two, he just shoves them into regulated roles inorder to shove out the witch and other sluts.
Berserk isn't ruined at all. It is obviously something like an eclipse 2.0 is going to happen. I think Farnese and Serpico will both die.
And some other stuff once they get off the island with casca having regained her memory.
Gute will unlock 1 more power-up so he can fight the neo band of hawk all alone with schierke clinging onto him to keep him sane.
>>151178759
>with schierke clinging onto him to keep him sane.
Is this Miura's fetish?
>>151178695
Yeah, just...
Witches might be allies, but this gives a big hint, that not just the bitchy witch, but most of them are not as benevolent and good-natured as Flora. Elves are probably benevolent, though. Which just seems weird.
Guts probably doesn't care as long as Casca is healed, but I wonder why Schierke didn't question it.
The thing is, the only explanation I can think of that makes them have this thing and yet not be terrible people is "we have it left from a long time ago, and we changed". Or the bitchy witch literally killing hundreds of people in a short period of time, and everybody ignoring it. Maybe you can gather the wayward souls of the damned into the doll, or something?
I really hope this is addressed somehow. This just would feel weird if it's forgotten.
>>151178759
I still think that Schierke's adventures are foreshadowing for something big. My personal theory is one of the big toss ups might be her going into the armor, but the Beast that's been biding it's time outright attacks and kills her spirit. Alternatively, her physical body might be killed while she's in the armor, and she could end up having to stay in it, meaning eithe Guts could use the armor without worrying about the Beast because she'll always be in it, and/or have angst where when he uses the armor in addition to degrading his own body exposure to the Beast degrades her soul as well for extra edge.
>>151178782
Yes.
Also is it just me that misses old puck? Like puck used to be sensitive and was really kind towards Jill and the counts daughter. But nowdays he is a meme character for comedy purposes and cosplaying like yoda and other old manga's.
I know he made jokes in the beginning too. But it is diff now
>>151178910
I can see this happen yeah.
>>151178926
I wrote about this not long ago.
>>151176491
>>151178926
>Yes
>>151163083
>in this case it's a sign of the fact that the author is a 50yo batchelor
Yep, sounds about right. Old grumpy man wants a cute daughteru.
>Elfland is moeshit
So that's why they're called the beautiful race.
>>151178949
You're totally right about puck and schierke
>>151170679
>Berserk starts off dark as shit
>HxH starts off light as shit
>both now heading into the opposite direction as the series go along
Pottery.
>>151179080
Huh, when did HxH start out "light" ?
Even the first chapters of the hunter test had that guy picked up and devoured by birds, people eaten alive or getting killed during the trials, Killua plucking a dude's hearts from his chest etc. etc.
>>151179134
The very very start where folks would think it was just like Naruto and its Chuunin Exam.
>>151178926
>Also is it just me that misses old puck?
No you're not.
I really liked Lost Children especially.
Puck felt more like the representation of innocence in that, yea he was still comedic but he was honestly effected by the things going on there. Now he's not really responsive and just sucks in Ishidro into his gags while tossing out the occasional cultural reference.
>>151162930
>It's really hilarious, a single character, just one saved an entire series that was in the decline for years.
>How does she do it?
ftfy
>>151173552
Have you never read that one doujin by Studio Tar?
what went wrong?
has he lost his skills?
can miura still draw but doesn't he just bother to?
does someone else entirely draw it now?
>>151179466
He's being Togashi
Glad the BD properly shows her cuteness.
>>151179669
Jesus, the right looks like some CGI zombie. What the fuck, animator-kun?
>>151179669
What's her name? Want to search for her pics.
>>151171016
>Corkus
he was too good for this world
>>151178188
ivalera pls
>>151162930
But Puck isn't a female...
What do you mean OP ?
>>151176947
>>Casca
>This madman literally turned best girl into worst girl.
that's a very weird way to spell Farneze
>>151179957
Remember when Farnese was sexually aroused by burning people to death?
Casca is going to die.
Guts will end up with Schierke in the end.
>>151180101
That's honestly the best case scenario. But Casca will probably play a role in Griffith's downfall. Not to mention Guts is still 100% devoted to Casca and would never move on unless she dies.
>>151179983
shit was the bee's knees
>>151179713
erica
>>151180153
>muh older man
This is why I'm glad Togashi has a wife.
>>151180159
Thanks anon.
>>151180194
Because he is an emasculated fag?
>>151180228
At least he doesn't self-insert.
>>151180159
You know that most women and especially young ones are attracted to older men? It makes sense since the only other options for her are literally a snot nosed kid and a moody siscon.
>>151180259
Besides, Guts is handsome as fuck. Combined with everything else, it's no wonder Farnese and Schierke want to take his dragonslayer inside them.
>>151180384
dat detail
>>151180228
It's impossible not to be a fag if you marry Sailor Moon's author.
>It's another /v/ crossboarders complain about "moeshit" in Berserk thread
Keep crying shitters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3kpzmylhg
Wow, this reminds me of Aku no Hana.
>>151180384
He's ridiculously handsome when his hair is wet and laid down like a normal human.
>>151178856
it is going to be forgotten.
Miura drew it simply because it looked cool.
that's the kind of manga he makes nowadays.
pulpy fantasy where nothing feels "heavy" anymore.
>>151180686
>that cameltoe
Literally impossible for a little girl.
>>151180101
>Guts will end up with Schierke in the end.
You misspelled Farnese.
>>151177818
OH GOD THE BEES NOT THE BEES
>>151180733
Magic
>>151180101
More likely Guts will marry Casca and officially adopts Schierke as their daughter.
>>151180716
Guts looked super cute when he had a bucket of water splashed on him by Griffith
I just want to see Puck be actually relevant again.
Feels like so long ago that we got to see him in his "trap" form.
>>151180708
Honestly, while I was ok with the 2016 anime, the most disappointing thing for me were the stills like this that showed what it could've been had the whole thing been regularly animated, but only for brief moments before it reverts to the QUALITY CGI.
>>151180861
>trap
it's called shota.
Im just reading so I can see the stupid face all the humans will have when griffitfh sacrifices them all.
Specially the stupid bitches that actually like him.
Fucking dumb bitches
>>151181282
Chad will always be the best anon. Stop projecting on the manga
>>151181317
Who?
Maybe you are the one that should stop projecting, 3D is PD.
>>151180686
Moeshit is cancer though
>>151181282
calm down elliot
>>151176491
>>151179170
>Puck in Lost Children
>he was still comedic but he was honestly effected by the things going on there
That's what I miss. Corkus and Judeau weren't above making a few jokes, but they were still developed characters with a range of emotions.
But now that Guts has lost a need for a moral foil, and has more of a dynamic with the rest of the group, Puck feels completely disconnected from anything that's halfway serious.
>>151180708
>>151180901
Yeah, it's a shame, because it feels like Farnese's actress is really acting the Hell out of that scene.
But the CGI stiffness is barely able to convey the emotion of it.
Is it wrong to read Berserk for the cute grills? I find them better than the girls in supposedly moeshit shows like Re: Zero.
>>151180708
So Miura's fetish also includes being whipped by a loli.
>>151182270
>Farnese
>loli
>>151162930
Retard Casca is bad, but she's not that bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2esZJFKDBkc
Miura is such a dirty old man.
>>151183007
>those lips
What happened?
>>151183037
moe
>>151183087
Don't think that shit is moe though.
>>151183007
I liked it before it turned into literally batman
>>151183037
The first thing that witches in training learn is cosmetic magic. However they don't always have good tastes.
>>151183037
same thing that happened to the rest. thicker lines
>>151162930
fucking lolis, ruin everything they touch
Man, this shit is just gorgeous. It looks like something out of a fairytale book.
>>151183356
Well, Berserk is a fairy tale, albeit a dark one.
>>151162930
I don't think she's the problem. The problem is Miura and his discovery of IDOLM@STER. He did a complete 180 with the story after he contracted incurable stage 4 loliconitis.
Before Shrieke was introduced Gut's seemed to be more goal driven and intense. Now he's got his nakama's and doesn't seem to know what he wants to do post-Caska becoming unretarded. I feel the story has lost it's focus but I don't think it's unsalvagable. I miss what Berserk use to be. Not the edgyness, because that's still there. The struggle, Guts fighting to survive against impossible odds mostly by himself with just sheer will power. No magical Batman power, no retarded Spirit Magic, no harem of waifu's and plethora of comic relief characters (Puck was always more than enough), no shitty Robin sidekick.
Sidenote, Farneese's character development has been unrealistic as fuck. She was actually a pretty great character up until she started learning magic. She went the same way as Caska. Which is another character that was completely fucking ruined for no good reason. Only interesting people left in Berserk are Serpico and Rickert & company.
>>151183337
>ruin
I think you mean 'improve' everything.
There's nothing that lolis can't improve.
>>151162930
>blaming schierke
>when casca is worse and only useful in one arc
>>151164566
She ruined the would-be dynamic of Guts and pic related and opened the floodgates for the current group as of the recent chapter. In addition to that, she's overpowered, but can't protect herself, so everyone else has to get slapped and stabbed while she can simply stay in Guts' subconscious and stay safe. Plus, characters like her ALWAYS attract roneryfags who would have never picked up the damn series in the first place.
I want my Batman & Robin duo.
>>151183438
>The problem is Miura and his discovery of IDOLM@STER. He did a complete 180 with the story after he contracted incurable stage 4 loliconitis.
At least Miura's lolis are good unlike idolshit's lolis.
>>151183491
Yeah, I clicked on this thread because of her pic.
Considering picking up Berserk now.
>>151183451
Casca was a great character who was completely shat on for absolutely no reason and remained this way for the majority of the manga. I don't think it's a problem with the character but the author. Schierke always felt shoehorned hard. At least when she was originally introduced. She's not a bad character either. She'd be better in her own series as the main character.
>>151183373
>Berserk is a fairy tale
With rape?
>>151183549
>he doesn't know
>>151183496
>At least Miura's lolis are good unlike idolshit's lolis.
I think that was part of the reason he got into it. He wanted to make better loli's than the shit tier ones in IDOLM@STER. He's a loli connoisseur of the highest degree.
Any loli service in this shitshow?
Besides that dumb witch?
>>151183491
Ishidro is because a good fighter in his own right though.
>>151183529
Should have killed casca outright really.
>>151183529
Mahou Shoujo Schierke anime when?
inb4 it ends up more successful than the actual series like Ilya's spinoff.
>>151183569
Based Miura.
Fuck those garbage bargain bin lolis.
>>151183570
Griffith has his own superior loli.
>>151183644
>dem forehead
Yep, Miura is a true loli connoisseur
>>151183608
Maria the Virgin Witch is probably the closest thing we could get to this. I would definitely watch it.
>>151183677
Sonia a best and she knows it.
>>151183725
Okay, she looks like an adult in the upper pic and then she turns into a loli at the bottom. What the fuck Miura?
>>151183725
Cant wait for griffith to kill her
>>151179466
He's just jaded and probably has chronic wrist pain like every half decent mangaka.
Will their ever be that maintains high quality all the way through?
Almost every long running series that's artistically demanding goes to shit.
>>151183725
>>151183644
I really hope she dies a horrible death.
>>151183787
>chronic wrist pain
inb4 back pain too
>>151183529
Well, until the Millenium Falcon arc, while she was more of a plot device than a character, she was a great plot device.
Her turning into a retard brought a lot of anguish to Guts and forced him to confront the Beast inside him, reevaluate his life decisions, made the whole Conviction arc happen, and the whole sequence of Guts protecting her while growing continually more annoyed with her not being able to understand anything.
She was his shackles and actively detrimental to what he wanted to do, but that was the point. And she was a really active pair of shackles, putting him into different kinds of conflict.
Post-Millenium Arc, though, she basically stopped being relevant besides showing up and doing something dumb once in a while only to be calmed down by Farnese and others. She also stopped being a source of conflict and started actively preventing interesting conflict for Guts, since he can't move far away from her, and this whole arc is "moving to another place with her", instead of doing something more interesting. Her healing arc took too much time for little reason. It's not like healing her should have been easy, but it should have been hard for the character, not on the reader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMh3XuB784
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>>151183931
Miura also has a ryona fetish, it seems.
>>151183836
>Well, until the Millenium Falcon arc, while she was more of a plot device than a character, she was a great plot device.
I disagree, she had a lot of personality and character development during that arc. She wasn't just a plot device to advance the story & Gut's character development. She changed a lot throughout the arc. Always conflicted about her role in the army, her admiration/love of Griffith, her feelings for Guts and her future in the utopia Griffith was working towards. I found her backstory pretty interesting and well done. Also, her relationship with Guts was interesting in that it grew them both as characters. Guts had given up on ever thinking about anyone else but himself. She had given up on thinking about anyone else but Griffith. Through cooperating with each other during all the campaigns in Midland they both changed one another. She was also one of the few people who understood Guts.
Of course all of this was thrown out the window almost immediately after Guts decides to rescue Griffith. From that point on she was rape bait and a complete liability. It was almost like she died as a character the moment she lost her virginity....
>>151183931
Fuck I hated that chick and her stupid fucking hair. I hope rape horse caught up with her and her shitty boyfriend.
>>151183586
This. Keeping her alive has done nothing but provided misery for everyone.
Should have killed her during the Eclipse when she was in her prime. I genuinely dislike her now. Even if she comes back in some way or form, it's going to take alot of time and development to rebound her character form the retarded cunt who treats the man who does anything for her like shit. Since this is Miura we are talking about, I doubt it will happen.
I think you mean saving a series. She is the only thing making Beshierke worth reading.
>>151184067
Not the guy you responded to, but I believe he's referring specifically to post-retardation Casca. The Millennium Falcon arc is the one after Tower of Conviction. I don't think anyone would seriously try to argue that Casca wasn't a character during the Golden Age.
>>151184139
This is the saddest part about it. I really liked her back in the Golden Age arc. I hate to say it but she was better off dying during the Eclipse or killing herself shortly after. What she has become is a fate worse than death.
>>151184067
Characters don't have to develop continuously. Maybe saving Griffith was of more immediate importance for everybody than Caska's woman issues.
>>151183582
Also true, and if anything, he'll be his own man. So in hindsight, the mary sue was a good thing, only because it forced him to step his game up. Plus, dude's arms really jacked up AND he's got a fucktoy. My point still stands about Schierke attracting plebs.
>>151184135
But it's cute swirls, anon. It's almost like drill hair.
>>151184207
Not even on the same league as drill hair....
>>151172577
>>151173119
I think he just fucked up on that panel. He should've drawn Guts looking more angry and determined or something
>>151184139
>Those PS2 abominations in the background...
Take a manga that is renowned for it's art as much as it's story. Make a trilogy movie with some of the shittiest low budget CGI in the industry. It's almost like they were taking a piss on the franchise....
>>151183787
Jojo's art has been steadily getting better
>>151184195
>So in hindsight, the mary sue was a good thing, only because it forced him to step his game up.
Exactly. Remember when loli witch was introduced? He felt unimportant and that's when he got his new sword and kept training. He's becoming his own man and is becoming less silly as he used to be.
>>151184303
Jojo has been getting less manly and more gay as time goes along.
>>151184135
I honestly hate her more than any other character in Berserk. And not just the typical anime, "I don't like this character", I actually fucking hate her. Letting her survive the Conviction arc was worse than the Eclipse.
>>151162930
>How does she do it?
Because of this.
>>151184326
I know Miura was trying to write a pathetic character that his readers would hate but I think he underestimated just how much we would hate her. She's easily one of the most infuriating characters in the series. Reminds me of the MC of Gantz during the beginning.
>>151184341
So true.
>>151181608
I want to do very, very lewd things with Puck
Just started reading this a week or so ago. Just got to the part where he lost his eye and his arm while he watched whats her name getting raped by his "friend", then the skull knight guy rescues them.
Goddamn this has been a pretty great read so far.
When does he get that black armor? Am I getting close?
>>151184371
The biggest thing that made me really hate her was how at the end of the arc her cuck boyfriend still took her back like nothing had happened. My only hope is they both died either from the Kushans or in the new fantasy world.
>>151184740
They probably died of aids that bitch had every std in the planet
>>151184291
>>151184067
>>151184164 was exactly my point. And yes, she died as a character after the rape, and I think it was a conscious decision. I'm arguing she still was a great plot device until Millennium Falcon arc.
>>151183725
Jesus fuck I absolutely love Miura's style the most around the 30-37 volumes (Guts VS Serpico until the Sea God arc), it definitely was the peak of the series' artwork.
It really fucking sucks that he's resorting to digital now since everything looks too flat now (thicker lines, no variation in brush/pen size, no more cross-hatching, simple shading). But it's for the benefit of the publication schedule I guess.
I imagine he's still getting used to it all, I mean Shinichi Sakamoto (the Innocence/Kokou no Hito mangaka) draws digitally and his works look fucking beautiful.
>>151184323
sure, but that's just style. it isn't objectively worse at all.
>>151162930
>tfw you have to wear a dress to cover guts' cum driping down your leg
>>151172061
But befor the demonic bird cock, she had a full meal of apostle weiner
>>151184139
A part of me is worried what Casca is going to become after her little mind trip. Given Skullkight's warning, she's not going to just simply return to normal. Guts doesn't deserve all this fucking suffering, give the guy a break for once.
>>151185085
Digital is pure cancer and Miura needs to get cancer and die as well because Berserk has been dead for a long time, this is just the final nail.
>>151183777
That's Miura's super deformed style.
>>151183777
what is changing style for a funny scene?
have you read literally one manga?
>>151184323
>less manly and more gay
oh how wrong you are
>>151164773
DevilDogs chapters were worse / more trite / more boring than her, despite being early in the Manga, and some of the darkest and most graphic chapters. She's pretty shit tho
>>151184135
>tfw there's only a single lewd pic of rapehorse actually raping farnese
>tfw it's not even that good
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3998507
you would think with all the hate we'd have gotten more
Michael Jackson vs Batman the comic
Well it's not like he's not put in lolis before, he's just not using the same mindset he did before.
I think the trials of bachelorhood are definitely what got to him.
>>151183438
>doesn't seem to know what he wants to do post-Caska becoming unretarded
Cure Casca
Kill Griffith
That's what I imagine are the two big things
>>151170147
>guts isnt going to just cut up godhand in the end. the manga is going to end with griffith trying to take out god hand and failing dooming his kingdom in the fallout because it was all fated to happen again just like it did with skullking. but guts who is out side of causality will show up and do some small thing that will change everything
>everything fucking foreshadows it going this
Wrong but also close.
Watch this.
https://youtu.be/Qzf1lp-DSbs
>>151162930
>>151164566
The party is no longer at risk of danger because there's always some magic spell that fixes every situation. Guts becoming angry in the Berserk armor? Let's just save him! Swarmed by monsters? No problem, just get a magic barrier!
Also she is embodies the major flaw of Berserk right now: the characters.
Isidoro: He wants to become a swordsman for reasons unknown (to be badass I guess?). Instead of developing this sly thief into a coherent character, he's mainly used as comic relief around the elf and witch.
Puck: Started off as a counter play to Guts blood-thirst for revenge and offering new insight to situations in the manga, and even explored the environment in a different way than Guts could. Now just subject to terrible comic relief every 4 panels in the manga.
(The girl elf): She's so irrelevant I forgot her name and I'm not even going to look it up. Garbage comic relief that's offered nothing.
Serpico: Has a strong start right now with enough backstory to hold any shape of character development. However, he's said and done nothing since volume 28 except fight monsters and Guts. It's a shame because I wanted to see a real friendship develop between him and Guts, and see him and Farnese discover each-other more as characters. This brings me to the biggest let down.
Farnese: Now here is where you just know Mirua has gone off track. If you talk to anyone who was/is a fan of the Berserk manga, they will tell you that this is their favorite post golden-age arc character. She had it all, a bad past, a troubled personality, and she was looking for something else in life after her adventure with guts. The highest point of the manga after the golden age is when she decides to follow Guts, and her development as a person during her travels before they meet the witches. Somehow things went to shit as Mirua stopped caring for his characters he started after the golden age around volume 25 - 26, now its a bad comedy.
>>151187361
>there's always some magic spell that fixes every situation.
There's a spell that revives the dead? Wow!
It's like you're fucking retarded or something.
>>151180721
You're joking right ?
The tone of this feels exactly like Golden Age before the sacrifice, the Wickerman may point out to the witches fucking Guts over or using Caska for sorcery, or anything really.
>>151187483
Actually there is. I think Guts has been fighting this spell since volume 1. :)
>>151185092
Same logic applies to Berserk.
>>151187483
>>151187680
>samefag
fanboy much? did you just get into berserk and now you're all crazy about it? we've all been there kiddo. when you get older you'll realize to criticize the things that even YOU like.
>>151187774
not an argument
>>151187774
>it's impossible for two people to disagree with me
>resorting to name calling and projecting somehow make me right
Granted the latest chapters have been the worse in the manga, but that doesn't mean anything regarding quality of the next chapters. Miura's been writing this properly for years, he'll notice how he fucked up and fix that for the next chapters.
>>151187680
>The tone of this feels exactly like Golden Age before the sacrifice, the Wickerman may point out to the witches fucking Guts over or using Caska for sorcery, or anything really.
What? The tone is very different between the two.
>>151180101
Hahaha no alot of you degenerate lolishits aactually want this but Guts and Cascara is forever and not even Miura is dumb enough to change that. Shierke infatuation with guts is pure comic relief and will always be daughter zoned.
The romantic triangle is going to be resolved in the next chapter anyways, when the girls see what happened they will leave guts alone.
I don't see how any can hate current Casca when there is nothing to hate. In her current state she has been a plot device than a character because its not her true self. She didn't develop over the course of the series up to this point because its basically just blank nothing until she goes back to her true self and the Casca we know and love will have to confront everything that's happened.
Anyone hoping for a fight between Guts and the Beast of Darkness? That would an awesome fight, as good as the god-tier Rosine fight. They've made it out to seem like Guts has tamed the Beast for now, but I'm sure that thing is just biding his time, getting stronger. I want to see it manifest itself into reality, and have Guts fight it.
>>151189592
How do you expect him to fight a part of himself ?
>>151165143
>decided to make femto a hax0ring, omnipotent god who can bend space and time at his will.
I think that's chapter 14 or something, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>151169741
When will these two fuck?
>>151189803
Well, we've already seen it come into reality before, so im hoping either some sort of spell happens to separate the two, or maybe the Beast gets strong enough to actually separate himself. Manifesting himself outside of Guts isn't the hard part, being powerful enough to exist on his own is the tough bit.
>>151178712
>thinking there's any potential left in side characters for THE BERSERKERM@STER
They're all part of the harem now, anon. Miura is crashing this plane with no survivors
>>151176491
I want her and Farnese to go through some kind of drastic change when they actually witness Guts during the Eclipse, especially how he reacts to Gaston and Pipin
>>151190819
Once Schierke finally realizes that Guts will never take a romantic interest in her.
>>151172191
>yfw the time on the boat was actually for nothing
I think there would be mass suicide
>>151176529
Yeah but the rest of the mango screams "We want the lolicon audience"
>>151187361
>tfw the only character that has actually done anything here lately is Rickert
He fucking bitch-slapped Griffith. More than Guts has accomplished.
>>151179391
Do you mean the one where her and Sonya fuck the war demons because IF YOU DONT LIKE IT WHO CARES ITS 2D LOL or where she gets fucked by faggot-ass monsters and then Guts comes in with a giant dick?
>>151187983
>>151188227
Honestly, even if that doesn't describe you, that's still a good point. I think we've all been at that point where whatever new manga or anime we get into, we think is the coolest shit
>>151191817
No retard the other one. The guy did two.
>>151190858
Its just guts visions dude.
The only way the hellhound makes it out is through the armor, and then its literally Guts, he cant fight himself.
Hey guts remember that time I sacrificed the band of hawk to become a god?
lolis are shit.
People actually dislike Serpico? He has a legit backstory, is a good fighter and has decent character development.
>>151192530
Your memes are weak.
>Guts wasting his life trying to un-retard Casca when he could just have a happy life with Farnese
>>151193158
>Choosing a woman who is literally a fucking tool versus a woman who has actually helped guts develop as a person
Farnese is shit
>>151192385
>gives two stories
>No retard the other one
>the beginnings of attempting to heal casca are literally the last page before a hiatus
FUCK
>>151192599
wrong.
LoliRmoe
>>151193637
we got off the boat only to step onto elf namek
Lets hope that berserk goes back to being 90 percent edge with the start of casca's dreams. Since the mimic eclipse ended it feels like berserk has just been fluctuating between fantasy RPG adventure with comic relief and its old darker/grander/political self. So yeah pretty much once Shierke joins things Berserk feels not so berserk anymore. It's still amazing but it feels very different when the main party is in focus. When things are say shifted to focus elwhere than the main group the old berserk shines through. Rickert slapping the fuck out of griffith was pure gold.
>>151185085
the main difference is in the eyes
from sharp and focused eyes to big moe magical eyes
>>151177972
>Post-Millenials
Since when did this became a meme?