How did this manga make you feel?

Despair but also erection

>>151147565

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>>151147565

Actually pretty good Freudian self-analysis. Interesting to read and easy to draw the parallel with myself even considering gender and culture differences.
Can't read it as my usual yuri manga or consider the material as hot though. 3dpd is leaking.

>>151147469
Bummed out mostly. Was a good read, and from what I understand the author is in a better place now. So that's good, but it's did pretty depressing stuff.

>>151147469
Sad.

Not just because of the subject matter, but because it's just a taste of the niche work that will never even be scanned, let alone translated.

Chapter 5 fucking when

I'm incapable of feeling empathy for l*sbians

>>151147469
I heard it's going to get translated and published in english. I like the drawing style, can't wait to own a copy of it

I hope the author is getting at least SOME money.

While I understand her train of thought (from experience), I think she justifies her actions too much.
All the freudian self-analysis the other anon mentioned is incredibly frustrating and infuriating even. Maybe because I relate to her in some ways, mostly how she FEELS, but not how she shifts or perceives the "guilt" or "responsibility" of the situation and actions. But I guess that's why she's a cutter and not an alcoholic like I was.
Also, what happened with the scanlations, no new chapters and I'd love to see the conclussion.

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>>151147565

Like I'm on tumblr. Or rather that's what I imagine tumblr to be like. Closest I ever got to tumblr was /u/.

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Fuck

>>151148383
This. I also felt that the self-effacement was disingenuous at times and there were hints of genuine narcissism colouring the account of events.

Some of it was genuinely insightful, though. The mental gymnastics and justifications involved in self-harm were in particular quite interesting, even though I doubt she was completely honest in her explanation.

>>151147469
She want to fuck her mother... it's fucked.

>>151149316
I know, but it is pretty interesting right?

>>151150022
I can honestly say without a doubt sexual act with my mother in my mind is absolutely a revolting thought. I love my mother, but have absolutely 0 sexual attraction to her.

Now my step-sisters is a completely separate story.

>>151152578
You sick fuck

>>151147565
>>151152643

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>>151147469
She is literally me.

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>>151149260
Damn it

Miserable

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The part about gender expectations after entering relationship made me wonder if I'm afraid of it because it would be like admitting that I've really been wishing for a partner these past several years and not as happy and fulfilled as I've tried to appear.

>>151158549
Let's face it, you've just convinced yourself you don't want a partner because of the preconceived notions everyone has about what a partner is, when deep down you know what you want you're just afraid no one else will want to be with you in the way you want so instead of acting on these emotions you repress them and compartmentalize them to make it a-okay and even if you realize this you become paralyzed with fear so that you never do anything about it

>>151159718
I admit it to myself that I really want someone and there are mental barriers holding me back, but the nods and validation I'd get from parents and peers because of it makes me feel worse about the current me who wouldn't want it to show to anyone else.

Disgust.

>>151150022
Imagine chris chan just going to town on barb.
Imagine the disgusting sounds as their sagging bellies slap against eachother.

>>151150022
Chris is still alive?

>>151161295
Not really
Not truly

>>151147469
Is it finished? Its a good story and I want to read it all

I don't consider lesbians people so I didn't feel anything.

>>151148776
Never

>>151161295
>>151161474

Was he ever?

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>>151147469
Probably the most relatable manga I've read after Onani Master Kurosawa.

>>151149262
How did any of the manga strike you as dishonest? If anything it was too frank.

>>151150022
>It's just like the gays.

Inspirational stuff

>>151147469
Sad

>>151147469
It's an incredible manga. So brutally honest.
At times it felt like I was laughing at myself.

Makes me question japanese education system or parenting.
How do live in selibacy till youre 28, not masturbating ever?

>>151147469
Glad that i sorted my shit out over the course of a little over two years, with little permanent damage. And somewhat uncomfortable, thinking back.

>>151147469
So, the manga is over isn't it?
I can't see more chapters of it.

>>151166884
Same. Sure, I still don't have a permanent residence and 25% of my paychecks go to rent. But I'm certainly way better than a few years ago.

>>151166880
Because women

>>151166880
>questions japanese education system
>can't even spell celibacy

>>151166880
>How do live in selibacy till youre 28
Easy
>not masturbating ever?
Less easy. Completely fucked maslow hierarchy.

>>151167159
This was the best possible post you could make.

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>>151147469
Makes me wanna hug her for 2 minutes without any of us saying anything.

>>151166880
Women surprisingly do it more often than you think

I remember 10% of women claiming they never masturbate which is pretty scary

>>151167762
She's mental. Not a good idea.

>>151166665
I find it hard to relate because even as struggling as I am with real life, I have never been as damaged as she is.

It is endearing though because of her brutal honesty as another anon mentioned.

>>151147469
All I feel is despair.

>>151167787
Most women regularly get dicked, tho. The problem is keeping a lifelong nofap while being an incel. Even if she didn't know how to (which I've always found pretty silly, what's so hard about rubbing a clit?), the urge is still there. She probably have some hormonal problems causing low libido.

>>151168170
But that's the reason I want to hug her, and touch her bald spot to make her embarrassed.

>>151147469
FUCK. It ends so abruptly.

>>151168170
But all she wanted was a hug, what's the worse that could happen?

>>151167787
I recall my sister telling me about how baffled she was that my brother-in-law bought her a vibrating dildo. Why she felt the need to tell me, and the story of my then two year old nephew finding it. And turning it on. Then waking her up and proudly showing her what he had done.

>>151168352
But its ongoing?

>>151168672
It is? Oh, ok then.

>>151168352
>>151168672
>>151168701
Well she just released a second volume a few weeks ago

>>151168848
Is it translated?

>>151147469
Puts my minor anxiety issues into perspective

I dropped it because it was gay
wanna pick it back up tho, but forget the name

>>151149260

>I was happy when she looked at or touched my butt.

Hot.

>>151168900
They're releasing the translated version sometime next year, so no not yet

This is the kind of story that would only make sense to publish as a book, not in episodic format.
Kinda shame.
I think theres many western publications with similar themes done like that.

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>>151149260

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>>151161295
Sure he is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEDbxJ2utTw

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>>151169358
>the cringe
Just when you think he can't sink any lower, he finds another hole/
Don't tell me he's going to attempt to assassinate Trump. God, I hope not.

>>>/r9k/

>>151147469
It made me feel like i needed to buy several copies of it, which i did, 2nd volume too. Also empathy, lots and lots of empathy.

no joke: suicidal

>>151147469
it makes me want to prey on weak willed woman and also self insert as one at the same time and revel in the ecstasy of her kinda shallow but she's do dumb to get out of it despair

I know that >I know that feel is meme bullshit, but it put into words a ton of stuff I've been feeling. Only difference is that I already work at a facility that employs people with mental illness, so I haven't been fired for my absences.

I feel a desire to help people who feel like me.

>>151169610
>very autistic man shoots himself in assassination attempt
>refuses to stop talking backwards to police as if it were a code

>>151147469
It actually helped me a bit. I feel like a better person and have some direction in life now.

>>151169975
More like
>Man shoots self in bathromm
>claims he was "testing its effectiveness"
>Police are reviewing videos on his youtube account
>Charges may be pending
>FBI involved

>>151170075
>man pleads the fifth before telling the court his plan
>court unsure is man knows what pleading the fifth means

>>151169873

We're here for ya bud.

Not a whole lot of empathy here.
I just read the whole thing and I can only think to myself, "You don't really need sex. You need a hobby."

>>151170357
She should at least try to masturbate once in a while, though.

>>151170357
>You don't really need sex. You need a hobby
Thats a typical "not a lot of empathy" response. If you're fucked up after living your life 28 years what the fuck do you do with those kind of advices? You're not going to magically change lifetimes worth of brain connections into something a normal happy person has.

>>151149316
I wonder if she knows

>>151170511
You know it's not a bad thing to tell someone who is obsessed that there are other outlets other than their obsession

another feels- and blogging-thread?

>>151170537
Her parents know, that's why she moved out and got an apartment after they confronted her about it.

>>151170668
Try reading said thread before shitposting about things that dont exist.

>>151147469
It was cute, I enjoyed her story. I wonder if she'll do anything else.

>>151147469
IN A PHRASE: satisfied in my own levels of inadequacy never reaching this level ever

>>151170693
You got access to raws no one knows about?

>>151170934
I own both books, plus i've been stalking her twitter for about a year now.

>>151147469
reminds me of a shitty tumblr comic

>>151164041
>masturbating pervert and depressed incestuous lesbian
>relateable

Get help, anon.

>>151170985
Dang, I kinda feel bad for her, but I don't really know what she expected to happen. Anyone else find this level of depression and self-loathing, coupled with feelings of inadequacy and directionless wistfulness cute and or endearing?

>>151147469
She's just a type of human. It was pretty pathetic, but I also thought that she's normal (in line mine at least) at last. She was a kind of person who had not agreed with a life of normies because she probably had thought it was meaningless. Perhaps that was the reason why she has a suicidal tendency. However, she compromised with the normie life and sorta grew up into an adult. I won't blame or praise her decision to be grown-up, but It is kinda sad thing that such peculiar paranoic mental state went away only to choose procrastinated normie life. I just wish that she had been to go out of mind or found another way of life being different than average ones.

P.S. A peculiar turn of events like she bought a prostitute and had a sexual intercourse is kindo funny, but I think It wasn't necessarily needed to become a grown-up.

>>151171192
Japan has the best people don't they

>>151171209
How old are you?

>>151171283
I wonder why you want to know that.

>>151171335
I'm just wondering. Don't worry, I'm not trying to insult you or anything.

>>151171361
Around the author's age.

>>151169358
Why is he holding the cat?

>>151171402
Alright, thanks for the answer. Be well.

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I want to cum on her bald spot

>>151171651
Tweet that to her mr. amor.

>>151171685
DOCTOR DOCTOR LOVE

>>151164041
That was a good read, but I so wanted to self insert myself when he stood by her bedroom door, and just bust the door open and hug her, instead he went for "that" girl...
I love you, little squirrel. ;_;

>>151162912
Why?

>>151149260
>self diagnosis
this is a thing I didn't like about this manga
>>151147469
alas, it's a lure for shitposters

>>151147469
She reminds me of my ex

>>151147469
Is she insane or something? I feel like I'm reading ramblings of a meth addict. Bitch needs to chill out and get a hobby.

It was really enjoyable to read. I wish that there were more manga and anime that realistically dealt with mental illness. I feel like I can't watch any serious anime recently due to the way the characters feel so inhuman. Its strange that this is the case due to the nature of anime fans, I would think all of those fucking losers would love this sorta shit.

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She released a sequel. Apparently, she got girlfriend or something, I guess.

>>151173584
>serious anime
this is your problem
try the non-serious stuff.
Some, like Horimiya or Chio Tsuugakurou, get it down to a T.

>>151173691
Yeah don't worry, I watch plenty of fun stuff. I just really wish that we where able to see more creative variety and innovation in the industry. If it weren't for fun shows I doubt I would watch more than 1 or 2 shows a season.

Just read the 4 chapters that are out and this is 99% me.
It's hitting too close to home for me right now and seeing it layed out like this is really suffering.

>>151174607
Damn I was going to read this but I'm already super depressed I don't know if I should even bother then

>>151147469
why aren't the last two chapters translated?

>>151177148
Half the translators got depressed and quit
The other half were disgusted and quit

Kind of curious about this but judging from the thread it will hurt to read and I'm not in a good place right now for that. Maybe some other time.

>>151177234
Fucking pussies.

>>151177234
It's only one person doing the whole thing though.

>>151173611
If this is true, I'm happy for her now. ;_;

>>151177514
He must be a conflicted guy then

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It was surprisingly relatable.

This was the page that hit me the most.

>>151147469
Disgusted.

>>151177872
I seriously have no idea what she means here.

>>151178096
Something like she was unable to enjoy life or find any measure of satisfaction or felt any progress because she put all her effort on pleasing her parents desires for the sake of their approval rather do things for herself. Or something like that.

>>151178096
Instead of doing what her parents want or what she wants, she did what she thought her parents wanted but never bothered to think about if it was, which led to no approval from her parents but also no happiness for her because she never did what she herself wnated

>>151178096
She did things to pleass her parents instead of doing things for her own sake.
She hasn't done anything for her own sake, so she has no idea what she wants, even though she knows she wants to do what she wants.
Think Rei 2.

>>151178210
>>151178231
>>151178239
Doesn't she realize that if she just "did what she wants", then she would be even worse off than if she just followed her parents advice?

>>151147469
It is disgusting.

>>151147469
It made me realize that I do what I do to please my parents, so they don't think of me as a failure.
I don't even want to do what I'm currently doing.

>>151178306
And why would that be?

>>151178306
Kinda sorta. She'd be worse off in the short term, better off in the long term, though in her situation that's debatable. That breakoff point should come much sooner.
If she ended up this way though, i wonder what her parents were like when she was a child.

>>151178425
Parents typically try to guide you towards a working, normal adult life.

If I only ever did what I wanted I would surely be homeless or dead.

>>151178507
Well, clearly her parents did something wrong considering she's nearly 30 and she's like that. Parents are not all-knowing always-infallible beings.

>>151178507
That has to do with maturity, by which i mean being able to function on your own as a human being. That's what parents are supposed to teach you, and if they do, you can do whatever you want from there.
I hate the meme that maturity involves not doing what you want. It just means putting what you have to do first.

>>151178549
It's pointed out quite a bit already through the book that her parent are rather traditional, in the be an OL or get married kind of sense, i guess their daughter being an anxious chronically depressed bulimic lesbian simply didnt compute for them

>>151178507
>Parents typically try to guide you towards a working, normal adult life.
>tfw your "parents" didn't do any of this and your life went off the rails as soon as you got out of high school, irreversibly turning you into a nervous wreck

>>151178507
Normal adult life? You do realize we live in the 21st century, right?
Her parents sound awful. All that lesbian 'Electra' complex shit suggests her mom turned cold and distant at some point in her youth. They don't realize she's already a failure and they think devaluing her small achievements will somehow set her straight or even encourage her to be more responsible.

>>151178723
>i guess their daughter being an anxious chronically depressed bulimic lesbian simply didnt compute for them
Then again this is Japan. Her parents would rather pretend that there's nothing wrong than actually try to help their daughter.

Hell, the mother reaction to reading her daughter's manga was to tell her to be careful of those awful AIDS she read about in books. That alone says everything.

/a/-parental advice

>>151178507
Some parents choose the way that their son must do the things without the son want that. I hate this to be honest. They try to control his actions thinking that is "good" for him most of the times, but this is wrong in my way of thinking, because the son never will mature in this way. Only sometimes and a bit (giving advices) of it isn't so wrong, but when they try to do this with offen then is totally bad.

>>151178943
>Hell, the mother reaction to reading her daughter's manga was to tell her to be careful of those awful AIDS she read about in books

At least she seems to acknowledge the idea her daughter would be having gay sex and thinks highly enough of her daughter to think she would be having sex

>>151147469
Like I actually read something written by, and for, actual adults.

>>151179071
If she read the manga, she knew her daughter went to a prostitute. Prostitutes may carry STDs.

>>151177872
I really liked this concept of what means to love one self. This abstract notion that you exist as a separe entity and you are often too lazy to sacrifice enough time and energy to improve your own life like you would for a loved one, which means you don't appreciate yourself as much as you think.

>>151173611
translation when

>>151179079
Dysfunctional adults, but yes.

>>151179027
>p/a/rental advice
FTFY. You had one job, anon!

>>151178507
This, to me, seems like a really unhealthy post.

>>151180890
I don't think posts have health

>>151172336
That's how depression works

>>151180949
Good point.

>>151179501
Fucking never

The hymen thing and clinging to her mother made me scared that she was sexually abused and doen't remember it.

>>151147469
There are legitimately a lot of dykes on /a/ aren't there?
Now I understand why yurishit is so popular here

>>151183817
When you're a faggot, you want to watch more faggot shit.

>>151178507
Motivation is a very important part to getting anywhere in life, and your parents don't know what motivates you.

>>151147565
This minus errection

>>151180949
Then it is a post made by an unhealthy anon.
>>151184305
Perspective, motivation and discipline, in that order. Though under perspective i mostly mean knowing and (more importantly) understanding how everything works.

>>151173282
Japan doesn't have psychiatrists or psychologists. They don't believe in that stuff. If you're feeling down, it's because you're a piece of shit. Go home, get some rest, quietly work harder and respect your authorities harder. Then you'll magically feel better and live a more fulfilling life. If that doesn't work, go stick some needles in your flesh or beat yourself with a stick, your chakra has simply been tainted by your shitty NEETness and the toxins need to bleed out. Stress and mental illness aren't real, they're an invention of the Western pigs to trick the modern nippon youths into leading a lazy and shallow lifestyle.

>>151185126
But in this very manga she said that she went to a psychiatrist

>>151173611
Where do you get raws for this kind of thing?

>>151185153
And how did that turn out? Also, just as the other anon said, the doctors in the manga told her to just get some rest instead of directing her to a psychiatrist.

Just read the whole thing, i'm just sad now, thanks.

>>151185797
>And how did that turn out?

Exactly how it turns out in the rest of the world for the most part.

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>>151183817
>There are legitimately a lot of dykes on /a/ aren't there?

>just now realizing

>>151185153
She went to a hospital, it's different. You got to the hospital for everything in most east-asian countries. Most of the time, if you don't have explicit physical symptoms, they just chalk it up to "stress" and tell you to go home and get some sleep, or send you off with a loot bag of pills. It's either that or you go to some seedy traditional-meds "specialist" who'll cram incense up your ass and hit you with a hammer to stimulate your byakugan or some shit like that.

Mental illness is simply not taken seriously. There might be two actual psychiatrists in a whole city, and they are very niche. Whenever you deal with a social problem in Japan, or east-asia in general, you have to consider two things:

1) Mind over matter is some serious shit
2) Shame and saving face runs deep as fuck

The belief is that if you have physical symptoms, then fine, you're kinda let off the hook. Take some drugs and go to work, as usual. Recovery time is for weak faggots who need an excuse to be unproductive. If your condition is mental, or emotional, you're fucked. You're obviously just trying to gain sympathy or have an excuse to laze around.

If you actually do go visit a psychiatrist, you're basically admitting you're a freak who can't control their own emotions. Prepare to be ostracized by your family and entire social circle as you know it, because that shit's supposed to be hush hush, don't you know?! Can't let everyone know you're related/ acquainted with an emotional deviant!

>>151185923
>She went to a hospital, it's different

That's the only place where you can go to a psychiatrist. That's where they work: hospitals or clinics.
This is true in any part of the world.

You are probably thinking of psychotherapists.

>>151185126
>Japan doesn't have psychiatrists or psychologists

They do but they're not very popular

I'm sure they're mostly limited to Tokyo but that's half of Japan anyways

>>151185854
Well that's just untrue.

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>>151147469
Now the importante question: would you stick in this crazy if she wasn't lesbian? If lesbian, would you scissor with her?

I would.

I really like the art and I can relate to the author in many ways, but I don't really like autobio. It always seems so egocentric and subtly deceitful.

>>151186336

I would be her roommate if given the opportunity.

>>151186336
It would be extremely awkward.

>>151186429
for you

>>151186336
Crazy sticking it in crazy seems like a recipe for disaster.

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It's very good, and I love how she visually split apart in the manga as to show her internal struggles.
This part really got to me, though funny in a dark way.

>>151187243
The bloody noodles are hardcore, it's hard to imagine how fucked you need to be to pull that kind of shit. I feel really sorry for her.

>>151186336
Well really it all depends on what she's actually like in person but generally lezzing out with a depressed person doesn't work very well

>>151185126
T. Psycholojewist

Just finished what's released
That was damn depressing, especially near the end

>>151187243
She's an idiot, every child realized you can smash up dehydrated noodles and eat them like chips and crackers. She tries to approach things is such an earnest and straightforward manner it makes me sad that true idiots like her have to navigate this cruel and uncaring world.

>>151187243
I might actually feel bad for her if she wasn't gay.

>>151189580
Does being gay makes less of a human??

>>151147469
Is this like Watamote but cranked up to 11 and mixed with generous amounts of /u/?

>>151189768
Yes.

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>>151189826
>implying Tomoko doesn't basically have a yuri harem at this point

>>151190101
Tomoko isn't a faggot though.

>>151190212
Well, obviously. She's a dyke.

>>151190212
She's the kind of person who wouldn't give a damn if it meant companionship.

>>151152241
Yes, but is a uncomfortable reading.

>>151168900
http://dynasty-scans.com/series/the_private_report_on_my_lesbian_experience_with_loneliness

>>151185126
protip: they are right

Reminded me of my lesbian ism and loneliness

>>151192627
Fuck off, L. Ron

>>151189826
It's nothing like Watamote, which is a fictional comedy about a narcissistic misfit.

This one is a confessional based on the real life of the author. No comedy, just severe mental illness and suffering. It builds up to this one /u/-"incident", where the author decided to see a lesbian prostitute.

>>151192627
The longer I live, the more I feel like the problem is people are just stupid and don't like to face themselves. Excuses are easier to deal with.

>>151147469
Annoyed.

An utterly vapid and boring MC with a meme illness.

>>151192390
I read up to that point, i thought there was more. Thanks anyway.

>>151193188
The thing to keep in mind is that mental health issues do exist. The difference between someone pinning their character flaws with a mental illness label and a schizophrenic not being able to sleep because he hears voices in his head is obvious. They both have issues, but one of them needs to get their shit together, the other needs actual professional help. The author here is a severe case of the former, and while the issue at its root isn't necessarily an actual illness, she needs help badly.

>>151149260
weak

>>151193562
>just snap your fingers and get your shit together dude come on

That's not how it works.

>>151178096
She'd been "helping" her parents not out of any sort of compassion for them, but because she felt obligated to. It's a way to sort of excuse yourself for all of your failures and subtly shift the blame to your parents, all the while convincing yourself that you're a good daughter in order to fuel those self-pitying, narcissistic bouts of depression that she has by telling herself that she sacrificed everything for her loved ones but never took herself into account.

Really scummy, actually.

>>151193653
Why didn't she just choose to be a better person?

>>151193708
Because it's easier to lock yourself in your room.

>>151193708
Where do you think you are?

>>151193649
I didn't say that nor did i imply that. I wrote that they need to get their shit together, not that it's easy. It ain't fucking easy, especially if you're alone in it. I even fucking wrote that she needs help getting her shit together, which if you weren't a mongrel you would understand to mean that you cannot fucking snap your fingers and make it go away, and that if she were to try to salve her issues only on her own it would take amounts of time and effort she probably can't afford going into her thirties. Thankfully, according to raws, she seems to be in a better spot now.

>>151193708
Some people are just born scum. It's technically possible for one of those people to become a "good person" but it's much harder than for a regular person.

another fucking story about me
thanks /a/ to reminder me about I'm 28 sickness NEET and kissless virgin

>>151193708
Why didn't you just choose to finish MIT with a 4.0 GPA?

>>151193790
>>151193965
>>151193989
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>>151193708
Stop bullying her you fucking retards. Depression isn't the victim's fault.

>>151147469
how long is this?

>>151194081
Medicalizing mental states doesn't absolve someone of the burden of responsibility.

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>>151194081
I didn't say that.

>>151194193
I agree, she should just fix her situation.

>>151194081
it is, actually

i despise depressed people more than actual criminals and felons. absolute leeches, the lot of them

>>151194193
it worked for that one lady that killed all 5 of her kids.

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>>151194148

>>151183817
I can guarantee you there are more gay men here than there are women

>>151194275
thats too long

>>151194227
I'm diagnosed with Assholeism and the current medication my doctor has me on doesn't seem to be working very well so it's not my fault if I call you a fucking faggot. Please be tolerant of my very serious and very real condition while I continue to call you a faggot and make no effort to stop calling you a faggot, faggot. Maybe one day medical science will have advanced to the point where victims of assholeism, like myself, can be cured and live normal lives not disadvantaged by our very real conditions. Until then, people who are privileged with not having this illness should appreciate just how good they have it that they were born capable of not being assholes, because it's totally out of their control.

>>151194061
Video games are more fun.

>>151194342
My condolences.

>>151194342
...but you're not only attacking a strawman, you're replying to an anon who shares your views
Unless he was being sarcastic which i honestly can't tell

But is the author anywhere near as cute as she draws herself? She did say she was bulimic but at the same time she doesn't draw herself fat.

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>>151186336
She may be Prison Gay.

>>151194652
>She did say she was bulimic but at the same time she doesn't draw herself fat.
Bulimic people aren't usually fat

>>151194580
The guy he replied to here, I was being sarcastic because NTs actually believe it's that easy to just "fix" yourself.

They have zero empathy despite supposedly being the mentally healthy group.

>>151194652
Nips don't get fat, they eat tiny-sized child portions for every meal.

>>151194702
So either way he's a mongrel, he's just slightly less of a mongrel.
>They have zero empathy despite supposedly being the mentally healthy group.
Not despite, because. It takes quite a real human bean to empathise with someone if you don't share their experiences.

>>151194702
>NTs
What does that stand for?

>>151194833
Neurotypical. It's just a term for people who don't have a mental illness.

>>151194970
By that definition, the author of the manga in question is NT or close to it. She has massive developmental issues that need work, but no illnesses.
Mental health != a checklist of mental illnesses.

>>151194970
Sounds like a really scientific way to call someone a normalfag.

What does gogatsubyyyo even mean?

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Couldn't really relate so I didn't bother keeping up with translations after chapter 2. The MC felt too desperate but did so little to take change.

>>151195080
Eating disorders are classified as mental illnesses these days, there is strong evidence that they are genetically inherited.

The author's explanation of self-harm as being a way to create a physical and "expressible" form of pain actually made me sympathize with cutters. Even as a severely depressed person it never really made sense to me, but her explanation really makes it understandable.

>>151195080
Actual depression is a mental illness though.

>>151195184
In fiction, you don't need to convey the fact that characters take amounts of time and effort to change. Character arcs are strings of dots connecting point A and point B, the distance between the dots themselves is pretty irrelevant in storytelling. Hence such things are ommitted.
In reality, getting to point B from point A takes time and effort, and requires logistics to muster those up. Logistics which are ignored in fiction, because the vast majority of people don't care about the logistics in fiction.
Tl;dr you don't like it because it's realistic (obviously, being an autobio). That's a matter of taste, and that's fine.

>>151195276
Yeah, that little part blew me away.

>>151195080
Mental illness is often caused by developmental issues. Chemical imbalances and neurological pathways are what cause us to behave the way we do, and the way that neurological pathways develop is heavily influenced by our personal development and social experiences.

She's definitely mentally ill. Depression and anxiety alone are significant mental illnesses, not to mention the self-harm and eating disorders.

Which part you sympathized/identified with the most anons?

>>151195440
28 years old kissless virgin.

>>151195440
none because I'm not a narcissistic loser

>>151195440
The parts where she weighs the advantages/disadvantages of suicide against each other.

I always think that everyone would be better off if I killed myself but then I realize that there a lot of people who would be devastated and it'd be better if I could somehow do something significant before I died.

>>151195472
this

in the latest chapters, she finds a girl and cheats on her because they "didn't connect"

she's fucking trash

>>151195440
The entire chapter 4. When I did read for the 1st time I almost cried in the end because did hit too close to home for me. My first sexual experience was very similar.

>>151195571
>finds a girl
dropped

>>151147469
One of the most heartwarming things I've ever read.
The narration makes it clear she's doing better now and the story seems to be one of self-improvement through introspection more so than just wallowing in the long lasting despair. The honesty in the way she explains her own reflections is what makes it perfect.

I'm finally getting my shit together too, don't lose hope.

>>151195368
There is a very blurry line between being depressed because your chemicals are imbalanced, and being depressed because the circumstances you find yourself in are shit. It's more useful to assume the latter because you have more control over that (working to improve your life, no matter how slowly or incrementally, vs popping pills and praying).
That being said, i don't place blame on the depressed, be it chemical or induced depression. Accountability is inseperable from awareness and understanding, if they're in a fucked mental state they likely aren't capable of seeing or accepting the right way out (assuming one, or multiple, exist). Which is another of the many reasons for why they need help, and why there's stigma surrounding medication.

That being said, the author herself does mention taking pills that allow her to focus on reading again. So i'm taking back my rushed statement that she's approximately NT, and saying that there's no conclusive evidence but it points toward disorder.

>author was a filthy NT all along

I've been fooled by normies for the LAST TIME

>>151195678
>NT
?

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>>151195384
I guess. To me, things like chewing on dry ramen noodles until your mouth bleeds is just too strange. As another anon said, even I learned as a kid to smash them so you could eat them like chips.

Being stuck in a rut and not really progressing as a person is fine, we all do that, but throughout reading those two chapters I felt like the person had no real sense of planning. It's been a awhile since I've read it but her methodology was basically "shit sucks, better google the problem and use the first result to solve my problem then repeat when it doesn't work."

Does she ever at least try to talk to another lesbian and figure out what the fug might be going on after chapter 2? That alone could help clear up things.

>>151195678
>>151195697
Newtype?

>>151195741
so it has a dingus?

>>151195697
New Type.

>>151195616
Guys are disgusting though, and her experiences with them proves it.

You know that there's a lot of us here, right? Do you know how annoying it is to go through tens and tens of messages of random assholes just looking for a quick fuck, all the while being unhygienic, having no fashion sense, and being rather unattractive? What else do they have to offer? I'm convinced that they're not really capable of love.

Then again, finding a cool girl is almost an impossible task, so who knows.

>>151195697
NTR. See >>151195571.

>>151195697
>>151195741
Read a few posts above you. Though >>151195678 is just shitposting.

>>151195749
That's newhalf you dummy.

>>151195759
>Guys are disgusting though, and her experiences with them proves it.
missing the point

>>151195759
People are shit regardless of sex and gender, more at eleven. Decent people are a dime dozen, moreso if you are looking for someone to get into a relationship with, specially so because everyone has super duper high standards and thinks of themselves a diamond that the world owes it's existence and revolves around.

>>151195776
whats new type then?

>>151195440
How happy she was about her completely superficial interactions with other people in the earlier chapters.

>>151195478
The irony in this post is tragic.

>>151195861
People whose souls are not bound by gravity.

Watch Gundam.

>>151195678
This actually reminds me of something that bugs me, the distinction of normie vs normalfag
A normie is a member of an out-group
A normalfag is someone like these
>>151195478
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>>151183817
And they are insidious.

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Why am I only just learning about this?

>>151195900
Keep being trash, my friend. I was like you, once.

You might figure it out, eventually.

>>151195876
which gundam is that hippie dippy sounding stuff in?
the only gundam I liked was war in the pocket.

>>151195759
The overwhelming majority of people are trash, different genitals just causes the bullshit to manifest in different ways.
Look at the deeply self absorbed post you just wrote and really try to reflect about what you'd think about the person saying that if it was someone else.

>>151195759
>Do you know how annoying it is to go through tens and tens of messages of random assholes just looking for a quick fuck, all the while being unhygienic, having no fashion sense, and being rather unattractive?
I have no idea, never had someone, disgusting or not, messaging me looking for a quick fuck.

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as someone forced out of neetdom this hit me hard

>>151195718
The thing about mental unhealthiness is that it's very often a negative feedback loop. All of that would help, but it either doesnbt occur to her, or if it does, she rejects the idea. In the manga she says that she'd often tell herself 'you don't desrve to [x thing that you know would help]', or that she'd give up on job interviews if she couldn't find the building easily. I've dealt with this, it almost completely kills your ability to help yourself in the first place. They will make very little progress on their own and they NEED support and help.

>>151195759
>>151195994
>>151195860
I have a strong feeling that those who thinks everyone else but them is trash or whatever are the worst trash of all. But who cares, stop blogging.

>>151196010
>>151195994
>>151195860
>>151195801
Here comes the defense force. Lack of self-awareness is rather unattractive to women, you know.

>>151196049
I don't know, I always used money as a way to move out of home so I don't have to deal with my parents anymore

>>151196109
That's ironic coming from you

>>151196010
>>151195994
It's a troll. It's in the same ballpark as the way women think, but it's a troll.

>>151196109
>Then again, finding a cool girl is almost an impossible task, so who knows.
>most likely written by a girl

>Lack of self-awareness is rather unattractive to women, you know.
>most likely written by the same person

>>151196119
my issue is people saying this is relatable to kissless virgins and the other anon saying she got with someone anyway, I can;t relate with that shit.
that was the point

>>151196155
Both of those are true though
Girls are shallow as all fuck in terms of taste but they will sniff out weakness like drug hounds

>>151196049
What's it like to have a job and money? That sounds wonderful.

Wanna know the best way to cure "depression?" Get kicked out of the house and be forced to live on the streets.

My parents did that to me because they actually loved me and because I was a worthless, disgusting NEET that did nothing but cry in his room all day long, and after about 6 days of being homeless and starving, I checked myself into a homeless shelter and found work with their help, and that of a temp agency's.

Now I'm happier than ever.

>>151196243
>What's it like to have a job and money?
pic from post you are quoted related

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Abandon this thread before it derails further, nothing good will be posted here.
The manga is real sweet, do give it a read.

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The most interesting part about manga like these is how they get people to discuss (or shitpost) about serious, real-life stuff.

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>>151196268
brainwashed by the moneyed class

sad

>>151196271
So having a job and money is awful, but being trapped at your parents with no escape is also awful.

>>151196268
They didn't raise you properly, so they decided to shift the blame to you and kicked you out. Loved my ass. You dusted yourself off and made your own way.

>>151196283
All it's doing is bring out /r9k/.

>>151196268
>worked for me

>>151196243
It feels good to get paid, but feels bad when most of the money goes to day-to-day maintenance costs.

>>151196283
People will tend to discuss the subject matter depicted. Same shit happens in NGE threads (though the majority of those are shitposting because the show is 20 years old, what the fuck is left to talk about)

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>>151196283
>top panel
Remember when people unironically posted like that?

>>151196393
If something like that doesn't "work" for you, you deserve to die in the streets.

>>151196427
I do. It was great. I want those times back.

>>151196243
Depends on what kind of situation you're in. I had to get a part time job after the second time I dropped out of school and it was awesome at first because I could buy things but then I had to start paying for health insurance, student loan payments, and tuition for my 3rd attempt. Now I have literally negative disposable income and it feels like I'm getting nowhere.

>>151196437
just world fallacy

>>151196411
>It feels good to get paid
maybey for you but not for me,
I don't feel anything during pay day, its just another day where I dread getting up in the morning.

>>151195900
>not liking gays means you're a normalfag

Kill yourself

>>151196283
I miss the middle panel.
This postmodern age of shitposting as a way of life is pretty unpleasant. I really hope whatever comes next is a bit cleaner.

>>151196393
It's like reading a tech support thread for the human brain.

>>151196427
I miss the simpler times when people were just happy to have others to relate to in 4chan and didn't judge each other nearly as much as they do now.

>the world isn't fair
>the world isn't fair
>the world isn't fair

>by the way, you HAVE to play fair or you will be sent to jail and/or fined

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>>151196268
>parents let you turn into a filthy hobbo
>but they actually loved you

>>151196511
PM sent ;)

>>151196516
Most of those people got nice jobs through nepotism so now they can brag on 4chan to all the losers who didn't win the lottery.

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>>151196519
>you HAVE to play fair

only if you're poor

>>151195900
"Normie" is literally just /jp/ cuteposting slang for "newfag." They're the same thing but /jp/ users like to type like that.
They also call janitors "jannies." There's no actual distinction, you just made one up.

>>151196519
Well you don't have to, but you have to be good at not playing fair to get away with it, and I doubt you can be good at that if you can't even be good at regular life

>>151196507
Like everything in this world, as the Internet become more accessible to the average Joe it's overall quality decreased a hundredfold. I blame phones more than anything.

>>151196533
Uhh they didn't "let me." Letting your kids do stuff is how you end up with the absolute slop in this thread. They called the police, filed a restraining order and had the police forcibly extract me from my room.

It was the only way to get me to do anything.

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>>151196605
>Normie
>/jp/ slang
Holy shit. Are you serious? This better be bait.

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>>151196605
>"Normie" is literally just /jp/ cuteposting slang for "newfag."

>>151196455
>>151196271
>>151196268
Parenting in modern times is incredibly bad and the more i hear about people's parents the more glad i am for mine.
Don't have kids until you can support both yourself and someone else with resources to spare (it's not the fucking money, your child ABSOLUTELY UNQUESTIONABLY NEEDS your time and attention, money doesn't fucking matter as long as there's food on the table)

Don't fucking have kids until you're ready. And you are NOT ready by default. Nor does education prepare you. Talk to grandparents, friends' parents, every parent of a well adjusted child you can think of if you ever plan on having a kid. It's the biggest responsibility you could possibly have and even the people who are considered good parents nowadays are largely doing it wrong.
My goddamn soul hurts when reading stuff like this.

>>151196630
Is this some kind of reverse Stockholm Syndrome?

>>151167762
>tfw no NEET gf

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>>151196630
That's even worse, anon...

>>151196674
I heard some other guy say it on there and it seemed legit
>>151196658
dumb neneposter

>>151196675
what the heck does that have to do with my post

>>151196630
that's right, goy, earning your own money is the only way that your life can be meaningful, your parents love you and that's why they threw you out to live on your own like an animal

>>151196427
I do, 4chan was so juvenile back then, when I started lurking 10 years ago. It was all fun and games, really...

>>151196437
>>>/pol/

>>151196630
You are not helping your case at all. They literally threw you like a bag of rotten trash. How the fuck do you still love your parents after that?

Mind you, I "understand" their reasoning, but that's still fucked up dude.

>>151196675
Just have kids then make them homeless when they don't know how to be adults, they will either learn or die.

>>151147469
Not trying whores.

>>151196695
nah, it's textbook case of loving your abuser

>>151196283
I miss 2006 4chan.

>>151173611
>>151179501
Panel 1
"Just once,"
"Is it ok if I receive a kiss from you?"

Panel 2
"...Here is fine?"
"Yes."

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>parents choose to bring you into the world
>everything is now your fault

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>>151196701
Normie is r9k slang for everyone that isn't a robot, aka part of the outgroup. It migrated from there. It originally evolved from a misuse of the term normalfag.
Similarly to how retards think 2d >3d has to do with physical attraction.
Lurk more.

>>151196798
Cute

>>151196807
this pisses me off so much but my mother is a naive and loveable idiot so I can't actually use it as an excuse

>>151196728
Which one was your post
The point is that people being fucked up most often stems from parenting and/or environment they grew up in

>>151196798
Also the sfx on the 3rd panel is "Chu"

>>151196807
You will given all the tools to succeed.

It is your fault.

>>151196735
Earning money in some fashion is a necessity. You cannot blame the inception of currency on the Jews, it was an inevitability to combat what would otherwise be an impossible marketplace where you could only buy with what you produced, and if you needed something but the person didn't want what you produced you were shit out of luck.

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>>151196807
>NUH-UH MOM I'LL JUST THE SHIFT THE BLAME RIGHT BACK AT YOU
poor little you.

>>151196917
Not everyone is born with a silver spoon though. Being born is literally the biggest gacha in the world were a single bad roll fucks you up forever.

>>151196844
I've lurked loads, so how am I supposed to know whether or not to trust you over a half-remembered memory I have of a post from long ago that may have been a dream?

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>>151147469

>Title is: "I was so lonely that I went to see a lesbian prostitute"
>Translated as "The Private Report on My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness"

>>151196675
>money doesn't fucking matter as long as there's food on the table
I disagree. Having extra money is what allows you to give yourself and your children liberties that will make your life easier and better. I don't mean millionaire who buys everything for their children, but not having to worry about money and being able to spend on you and your children at the same time is important. If you don't want to end like one of those parents who regrets having kids, both time and money are necessary.

>>151196969
Blame the universe for that if you want, but you are still going to have to live in it if you want to stay alive.

>>151196972
>I've lurked loads
Yeah totally.

>>151196807
Gonna be honest here, I'm with the people saying that throwing your child out is fucking abusive but if you go too far with this you come to antinatalism which to me is just absurd

>>151196969
Just don't be born an impoverished fuckup, it's that easy.

t. pol

I love all the triggered /r9k/fags are crawling out of the woodworks.

>>151196969
If you have arms and legs, no chromosomal abnormalities, no serious physical deformities, are taller than 5'8" as a guy, and have an IQ of at least 80, you're fine.

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>>151173611

It's in the past.
It mostly deals with her younger self and her relationship with her parents.

There's some present day stuff, but it's mostly past.
The only reason why the raws look happier is because they come from a time when life hadn't completely gone to shit yet.

>>151197022
>If you have arms and legs, no chromosomal abnormalities, no serious physical deformities, are taller than 5'8" as a guy, and have an IQ of at least 80, you're fine.

Work is for losers.

>>151196844
Looking at this picture I feel like something precious has been lost.
I want a replacement.

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>>151197001
>but you are still going to have to live in it if you want to stay alive.

>>151197007
Well, not on /r9k/ I suppose, not recently. That place is a cesspit, an oppression Olypmics. Nevermind the actual existence of obnoxious normal people who do make life for robots harder, those users are just making their own lives worse by going there.

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>and then I told them, "Hard work will be rewarded!"

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>>151196630
Your parents called the cops to get rid of their own child?

>>151197054
Yeah it is, too bad resources are finite and people don't owe to you anything.

>>151197001
Not shit, we all have to play with the cards we were given rather then the ones we wish we had. That's a given. I'm simply disagreeing with your post about how everyone was born with the tools to succeed.

>>151197070
last I time I went there there was also a lot of traps threads too

>>151197100
He was THAT lazy of a neet. It is also 100% his fault, and not his parents fault.

>>151197022
>developmental issues and mental illnesses don't exist
t. /pol/

If you're born to and raised by shitty parents in a shitty area then it's highly unlikely that you actually possess the potential to become successful.