How come Muv-Luv is so much better than Gundam?

>>151027727
I know Gundam can barely stand as it currently is, but
>Harem antics + edge
really doesn't make Muv-luv any better.It's also jarring as fuck, they could at least make an attempt at proper juxtaposition

I do like how it's technology progresses though.

>>151027727

BETA make Muv Luv interesting, without it then it would just be another generic mecha trying to cash in on Gundam's fame.

>>151027867
>I know Gundam can barely stand as it currently is
What does that even mean? Last time I checked Bandai was still laughing their way to the bank with all their Gundambucks

>>151028181
He means in quality genius

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It was, maybe.
SM made it obvious age doesn't care about ML at all now, it's just a cash cow.

>>151028171
This desu, Muv-Luv isn't supposed to be about mechs fighting mechs.

>>151027727
>How come Muv-Luv is so much better than Gundam?

Because it is a reinterpretation of modern history, and that is way more fun to delve into, I guess.

>>151027727
Dystopian setting with humans barely scraping through against a hostile alien invasion made up of creatures specifically engineered to overpower advanced civilizations coincidentally leading to the development of rocket-propelled bipedal mecha as they are the only thing fast enough and precise enough to take out the AA aliens

vs

Politics and character drama with robot fights, and sometimes its a space opera. But it does get huge points for being one of the major franchises to kickstart the mecha genre.

>>151027727
yet their plastic models are shittier and more expensive than gunpla

>>151028181
I'm pretty sure he's refering to how they've basically stopped caring about creating decent anime since the franchise is so expansive and people will continue to buy the kits and figs regardless.

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>>151027727
Different themes.
Gundam is "War is awful, we shouldn't do it."
MuvLuv is "War is awful, but we have to do it to prevent more awful things."

Also, MuvLuv realizes that sometimes war is pretty fuckin cool.

>>151027727
Muv-luv is pure political wankery

>>151028796
>Gundam is "War is awful, we shouldn't do it."
IBO and Thunderbolt seem to be changing that sentiment

>>151028923
You just described Gundam.

>>151027727
It isn't.

>>151030241
Nah, it definitely is. Gundam is fucking awful.

>>151030370
But it's not, and unlike muv-luv it's capable of occasionally putting out characters that might actually exist in the real world.

>>151030411
>But it's not
It definitely is, and nothing Gundamidiots like you will change that.

>it's capable of occasionally putting out characters that might actually exist in the real world.
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>this is what tominoshitters actually believe
Moron.

>>151030505
Highly compelling arguments there.

>>151030113
Muv luv is political wankery in the nationalist sense which Gundam doesn't really have since all the factions are made up instead of being real countries
>>151028705
Doesn't Bandai have some kind of proprietary method of manufacturing the kits that contributes to them being so cheap? Although kotobukiya plastic has a strange feel

>>151030579
There's nothing to argue, you just threw in a baseless claim like the idiot you are.

>>151027727
Muv-Luv taught me more about war economics, manufacturing and the industry as a whole than Gundam combined.

>>151030370
>3dcg mechs
>haremshit
>edge out the fucking ass
Victory Gundam makes MubRub look like that fucking no-budget cooking show from several seasons back where it LITERALLY Looked like high-school flash animation.

>>151028995
The theme in Gundam was never 'wars are bad m'ay'. That is a meme. Circumstances in Gundam shows always manage to show that war fucking sucks and ruins goddamn everything but when it happens you need to go at it with everything you've got because everything you hold dear depends on it.

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Space Battleship Yamato 2199 is FAR better than the entire Gundam series combined.

>>151030973
That's because when you do that you have to pick bits of 0083 and SEED out of your mouth to be able to swallow it.

>>151030953
At least Muv-Luv didn't show episode 2 instead of episode 1 to sell more mech toys.

Gundam is no better than pokemon; it's a shitty toy commercial.

>>151031027
It's better than the entire U.C. Series then.

You're an idiot if you disagree.

>>151031065
0079. Argument invalid.

>>151031146
Thank you for confirming your idiocy.

0079 was an elongated, horribly paced toy commercial. Not nearly as good as the original Yamato or 2199.

>>151031032
Better than being an eroge :^)

>>151031177
>liking Japanese nationalist propaganda
>>151031032
>muh porn game is betterment hand your toy commercial
Anime was a mistake

Original VN > Gundam sure

You're an idiot if you think Muv Luv anime is better than Gundam anime, though.

>>151031032
>At least Muv-Luv didn't show episode 2 instead of episode 1 to sell more mech toys.
when was anime not made to shill something?
Even stuff like GiTS was arguably made to advertise the manga and sell merch.
Muv-Luv is arguably doing just as bad as gundam if not worse by propagating the current standards of otaku culture

>>151031348
>liking Japanese nationalist propaganda
Fuck off you stupid reddit marxist.

>>151031452
>GiTS was arguably made to advertise the manga
Idiot.

>>151027727

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