Is Yuri on Ice the most overrated anime of the year?

>>151014906
No. It is AOTY.

It's honestly shit. Why do fujos have no taste?

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>>151016432
That's not Flip Flappers

>>151016432
Yup, it is amazing. Nothing came close.

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>>151016457
Funny way to spell Hibike 2

>>151016457
That's not Izetta.

>>151014906
>overrated
Not even close

No, it's Flip Flappers.

Random side characters in Yuri on Ice have more development than either of the main characters in Flip Flappers.

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I cannot go anywhere on twitter without spoilers. G r e a t

>>151014906
>Is Yuri on Ice the most overrated anime of the year?

No, that's FlipFlappers.

YOI is pretty good.

Haven't watched it yet, why is it called yuri on ice? it looks like yaoi to me

>>151017667
Because MCs name is Yuri and he's on ice

>>151014906
It's the gayest thing I've ever seen and it's basically impossible to escape so yeah

>>151017695
His name is yuri and he's also yaoi?

>>151014906
sorta, the opening is overrated as fuck

>>151014906
It's good but not great.
The first ep was great and ep 2-3 or so are really good but then it spends too much time on showing ice-skating and not enough on developping the characters and relationship.
Aside from Yuri and Victor most characters feel like joke characters.

It's a hit because it's probably the first good anime that focuses on gays without being comedy or too irrealistic. Gays and fujo love it.

>>151017782
>His name is yuri and he's also yaoi?

Yup. There's two characters name Yuri, one who is yaoi and one who is an underaged Russian fuccboi.

All hilarity aside it's actually a pretty good show.

>>151014906
Only yaoifags see it and it gives them exactly what it promises, I wouldn't call it overrated.

>>151014906
I think it delievers on what it promised to do perfectly and exceeded the expectations of its target audience. If you thought it would be anything else, you're probably just retarded.

>>151014906
Underrated, more like it. People will never give it credit for what it does well because they're so triggered by homos and things girls like.

It's natural to not be interested in a aeries aimed so blatantly at a different demographic, but the industry as a whole would be much improved if more series were treated like YOI. That is, with genuine care and passion by creators and collaborators who love the subject matter and are knowledgeable about it. The attention to detail and accuracy is so good that even pro skaters have commented on it. The focus on adults instead of teenagers is refreshing too.

>>151018769
>The attention to detail and accuracy is so good that even pro skaters have commented on it.
not really, the skating animation is the worst part about the show and is full of QUALITY

>>151018832
There's much more to it than animation quality, you know.

>>151018832
They are a small studio and lack the time or budget to polish the animation. The skating is still choreographed by a professional choreographer and referenced with film, so why the fuck would animation quality affect the accuracy?

That's not even what I was referring to. The shit that goes on backstage, the settings, the references to real people etc is researched thoroughly.

>>151014906
Probably yes. It's pretty good but not AOTY like some people claim. AOTY is Rakugo.

>>151016432
funny way of spelling Mob Psycho 100

>>151019125
you can't say that there's attention to detail when the detail isn't there though
>so why the fuck would animation quality affect the accuracy?
i didn't know that the size of figure skaters' legs morph mid-routine like yurio's but ok

>>151019163
>>151019191

>>151018769
I like how the world feels lively in this anime. There's a lot of details put in the backgrounds and the side and background characters. How they handle the smartphone and social media craze adds a lot to realism too.

The skating sequences may be realistically portrayed but they don't strike me as interesting from an animation or story-telling point of view.

But that's not enough to make a good anime. How can you call it underrated when it receive so much praise?

>>151019163
That's pretty normal for a serous-ish sports anime. They aren't really the first ones to research things related to the show they're making.

>>151018769
Are you sure? Because I've seen nothing but people fellating themselves over the quality of the show and how much people well versed in the sport found it accurate.

It's definitely decently above par, but I feel like it's just that. Besides some of the skating segments the show overall felt bland in comparison to the first couple of episodes. But that's all a matter of personal opinion.

>>151019369
I bet it's mostly people that don't watch anime or read manga that are saying such things.
"Oh wow I didn't knew there was an anime on ice-skating, it's very well done. Is it by the same guys who made The Simpsons?"

>>151019369
You seriously underestimate the amount of research being done here. I mean you have world champion skaters saying "Who told them about this?" Its funny that so many people saying that YoI is "just like every other sports anime" don't actually watch many sports anime. The people who are absolutely enamored with YoI are the avid sports anime watchers who will watch every single sports anime every season.

>>151019567

Its funny that so many people saying that YoI is "just like every other sports anime" don't actually watch many sports anime

It's funny that you don't have any facts to back this assumption of yours.

>>151016457
>>151016495
>>151016510
>Look mom, I like shit.

>>151019567
So it's basically fanservice for the ice-skating fans?

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>>151017667
It is yuri, but with boys

Most overrated at least on /a/ is FliFla. Everyone is well aware that YoI is successful because of the yaoi bait and decent skating plot, no one really thinks the show has any artistic merit.

>>151014906
The thing about Yuri isn't so much that its overrated (even diehard fans will admit its problems), but it is absolutely beloved by the people that its made for. This is a problem sports anime have had for a while- they are pandering to boys but are funded by fujos. Even a show like Free! that doubled down on pandering to women, tried to hedge its bets on the Otome crowd. Yuri on Ice has no delusions of being an anime aimed at anyone other than fujos. This allows it to do things to target its audience that other shows can't and sets it apart from the crowd. It was a matter of time too- the idea that a sports anime has to be acessible to men to be successful seems ridiculous now. Men don't buy sports anime anyway anymore, regardless of what its about but it takes time for the industry to react to changes like this.

>>151019369
No, you clearly do not watch this series. I've watched and read plenty of sports, and they research the sport itself thoroughly, but YOI is going above and beyond in referencing real places, events and people. Most sports anime don't leave high school so they don't have the same opportunity.

Johnny Weir (an Olympian) had an interview and commented on it http://thegeekiary.com/johnny-weir-watched-yuri-ice/40241
>There are so many details that pop up that wouldn’t mean anything to a casual skating fan, but to us as skaters who actually lived it, you can see so much respect for our world and what we do through the animations and story lines. Even down to the way certain hotels look. It’s very special.
>The producers definitely took their time to be sure that every detail was right. The fact that there are so many details makes it seem like the entire team was at events with us, backstage, in hotel rooms, at the banquets and so on.

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>>151017667

>>151019711
yes, just like all those bandfags that cream over Hibike and it's realistic drama. YOI is overrated and wouldn't even be half as popular as it is now without the gay couple.

>>151019675
Are you trying to convince me that the diehard sport anime fans are majority fujos- who are the diehard YoI fans? Because I'm going to need a source. Literally every sports anime is labelled fujobait nowadays anyway, regardless of how little it panders to fujo.

>>151019982
*aren't majority fujos

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>>151019711
Yes, it's for skatefags, fujos/homos and Russiaboos.

YoI is good, but the fandom with their "so refreshing, never been done before" and "its not icky like bl, welcome to the true gay world" bullshit is downright revolting.

>>151019968
>a romcom sports anime would be less popular without the romance subplot the entire storyline hinges on
No shit. That's like saying Toradora wouldn't be popular without the love story- of course it wouldn't, it's a major part of the plot.

>>151014906
It's watchable, so for fujoshi it's the best thing they've ever watched

>>151020112
Its a lot better than any seasonal BL and you have to be retarded to be arguing against that.

>>151020148
Thats because it doesn't have the delusion of being for boys that so many sports anime do. (And pretty much have to as most are shounen manga adaptations)

>>151020139
>without the gay couple
get it, now?

>>151019466
>>151019905

>>151020277
Sure, gay is all it takes for a series to sell. That's why BL adaptions are such huge Hits, right?

Moron. Gay anime is plentiful, fujos still won't buy it if it's garbage.

>>151020277
Maybe not with the Western fujos but it would probably still be pretty big in Japan as figure skating is huge over there.

Generally, the only people that love YoI are the people its specifically made for. This is what the industry is built on. Knowing who its audience is, and ignoring everyone else. And YoI is the first of its genre since the fujo sports boom to actually follow through.

>>151014906
garbage yaoi bait show. not overrated though. if you're there for yaoi you'll get it.

>>151019905
I get what you're saying now, and I guess you're right on that one. I don't remember a sports anime that dwelves that much into the life of a professional athlete like that, even showing them using social networks and all. You're wrong with one thing, I do watch this show and I'm a sports fan, currently have as many /sp/tabs open as /a/ ones. The thing is that those elements YoI shows are mostly for fangirls. Sport's fans don't really follow nor care that much for an athlete's personal life, Caring what kind of breakfast picture they post on instagram is what a fangirl would do.

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I love how some famous people have commented on it.

Even South Park made a reference to YoI recently.

>>151019854
>no one really thinks the show has any artistic merit
I wish this was true.

>>151020540
Yeah but the "artistic praise" it gets is mainly fujos hoping it shifts both the BL and sports genre.

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One thing that is sure is that my enjoyment of the show is doubled by the delicious tears and triggering it causes on /a/.

>>151017951
>It's a hit because it's probably the first good anime that focuses on gays without being comedy or too irrealistic. Gays and fujo love it.
This. One of the reasons why it became a breakout hit is because it actually shows romance between the 2 main dudes without baiting or teasing, and without shifting the focus from skating, so it's not like it's forcing the gay relationship in front of viewers. For fujos and gays it's one of the first anime series that depicts it, so of course they're going to hail it. Even nowadays we barely get confirmed romantic relationships between male MCs and girl love interests (because nips are pussies), so it's something different that people like.
Also, real figure skating champions have started watching it and they talk about it on their social media which helps for advertising the series.
But also it's a good show because it rarely relies on anime tropes and gets rid of stupid writing right away.

>>151020536
>Even South Park made a reference to YoI recently.
seriously? What episode?

>>151020290
The comments are about the portrayal of the profession being accurate, not some ambiguous praise for the animation. There is a difference.

>>151020633
I wouldnt say it gets rid of stupid anime tropes in general. It just gets rid of the ones that don't pander to its audience- something sports shows have great difficulty doing due to the way sports manga and anime demographics differ.

>>151019691
(You)

>>151020645
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/12/09/south-park-name-checks-crunchyroll-and-yuri-on-ice

>>151020633
>because it actually shows romance between the 2 main dudes without baiting or teasing
Are you kidding me, the whole thing is bait and teasing since neither of them ever say they're in an actual relationship. The "engagement ring" thing that Viktor said could easily be just sarcasm on his part. I think showing a gay couple in such a positive light would be a great thing but so far their whole relationship has revolved around nothing but vagueness that could easily be no-homo'd in the ending. If Kubo had any guts whatsoever she'd stop making vague tweets about "love" when people start bashing Yuri for potentially being gay and just outright say that they're 2 gay dudes.

>>151020742
The whole conversation you were replying to was about portrayal of the profession and not the animation. As >>151019163 very clearly said.

>>151020633
>>151020789
It has quite a lot of anime tropes to be honest, just not ones common in sports anime like spending 10 episodes on a match. There are plenty of narrative tropes like the 3 little girls breaking the fourth wall and explaining things to the audience. And shitty character tropes like panning to sky and cue "Ehhhh?!"

>>151020633
>But also it's a good show because it rarely relies on anime tropes and gets rid of stupid writing right away.
It sure adds a lot of appeal to normalfags, but I dunno if it's a good thing or not.

>>151020887
This is a show specifically handcrafted for fujos- there will be no "no homo" girlfriend scene. Anyone who believes that is delusional. Doubt that we'll get a kiss or confession though. Feels kind of stupid arguing about it 5 days before the finale though.

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>>151020887
>buying wedding rings worth 800 EUR and putting them on another man's finger in front of a church
>pic related
No homo bro.

>>151019905
all i got from this is that they draw hotel rooms and banquet halls correctly. how revolutionary, i guess.

>>151020937
What does that last one have to do with character?

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>>151020645
Not sure exactly since I don't watch it much, but here's the reference apparently, you can look it up

>>151020887
Don't bother, seriously. These people don't care, they already decided it isn't bait and absolutely nothing you say will change their mind.
Just wait for Victor to go back to Russia so the whole "engagement" turns to what it always was, nothing.

>>151020992
>didn't read the interview because he doesn't care but likes shitting on things anyway
sasuga /a/. The power of hate is incredible.

>>151021025
They'll still find a way to claim it isn't bait.

>>151020937
It also gets rid of a lot of the wish fufillment sports anime stuff like rivals and being the greatest ever. And it changes the art style to one thats actually attractive to women. Fujos love sports anime, but if youre making one specifically for them, a lot can get cut out.

>>151020354
gay isn't the focus, which helps. Which is why I'm saying the inclusion of gay romance brings in more fans. Also, their gay romance is so idealized that all the fangirls and 'gay representation' people have their new favourite show.

>>151017580
It can't be overrated if less than 10 people watch it

>>151020887
Maybe stop bothering him (her?) and watch the show to its end, you stupid yaoifag.
The staff probably wants it to remain ambiguous and responding to those tweets would be equal to a spoiler.

>>151021049
Anon, just accept that you're going full autist trying to defend your fave show. The level of research put in isn't anything unique or praiseworthy.

>>151021059
Really? Because I'm pretty sure there would be a massive meltdown of people canceling BD pre-orders, not blind acceptance.

>>151021059
I'm waiting for that. But at some point everybody will simply realize how delusional they are and ignore anything they say.

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>>151020984
Why do you take Viktor's word over Yuri's and ignore that Yuri explicitly said twice that it was a good luck charm?

Why do you ignore the fact that when they exchange rings they're not talking about their love for each other but they're talking about Yuri doing well in the GPF?

>>151021123
From nips I can definitely see them getting mad, but these retards on /a/ will just claim it changes nothing.

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>>151021145
Because Yuuri is a Nip male who unless inebriated will never let his real feelings known.

>>151021116
The ending doesn't magically negate how everything has been presented up till that point. Are you retarded? How is it a fucking spoiler? It's Kubo being too chicken shit to take an actual stance because she doesn't want to make anyone angry.

>>151021116
>and responding to those tweets would be equal to a spoiler.
Oh it's this retarded logic again.

Confirming a kiss that happened in like episode 5 would not be a spoiler.

Confirming whether they're actually engagement rings isn't a spoiler since Viktor said in episode 10 that they were engagement rings.

>>151021205
See, here we go.

>>151021122
You quite literally didn't read the interview and are still trying to have this argument about it as if you know shit. The levels of retardation are unbelievable.
>"There have been many strange moments watching a fictionalized version of our world, so much so that I’ve had times when I say to myself, “Who told!?” There are so many secrets in in the show that only skaters or people very close to them, would know about."
This from an Olympic skater. That's the level of detail that went into it and you can't refute that without being literally retarded. I'd rather be an autist about it than that.

I'm just hoping the kyoani archery boys isn't fujo. And if it is they should risk it and have two of them be a couple from the start. I think it would be a great experiment to see how fujos and the audience in general react.

>>151014906
That goes for Erased

>>151021198
>who unless inebriated will never let his real feelings known.
The only feeling he let known when he was drunk was that he wanted Viktor to be his coach, not for Viktor to be his boyfriend.

>>151021274
Archery boys won't even get an anime for another year or two, assuming it's even happening. There's no point in talking about it.

>>151021261
>This from an Olympic skater. That's the level of detail that went into it and you can't refute that without being literally retarded.
If only that skater actually went into specifics instead of just referring to vague shit.

Your post proves nothing.

>>151021261
I'm not even the guy you originally replied to, dumbshit, I can just see that you're making a huge deal out of literally nothing and being blinded by your assrage that not everyone worships your show. It's writers' jobs to put research into their work.

>>151021274
Isn't that based on a manga? I think we probably already have the answer there.

>>151021380
It's from an LN that won't be translated for years

Just fucking enjoy the show and stop with this bait/not-bait nonsense. MAPPA don't owe you anything, let them tell the story they want.

>>151021205
>>151021212
They want to live it ambiguous. It's basic storytelling. Seriously you're so deep in your circlejerking that you think the staff has to suck your cock.

>>151021356
>I wonder why this public figure didn't share embarrassing secrets from other public figures

>>151014906
fujoshit garbage

>>151021378
>It's writers' jobs to put research into their work.
I mean seriously, this is nothing new. Every sports show specially has a lot of research put into it.
The only difference is that now you have people pointing out all the details for you.

>>151021406
Remove the for years. Kyoani novels are never tranalated

>>151020112
>implying YOI isn't unique in some form
When's the last time there was a sports anime where the MC develops a romantic relationship with another character without pussying out by the end?
Also, the whole canon gay couple thing has been done before, but what, like, twice in the past decade? It is refreshing because it's something we barely see. Also, usually, when an anime wants to show that there's a homo character (which is pretty non-standard even now), they throw one in that either gropes people, cross-dresses, or does overly flamboyant/feminine things for comedic effect. They never want to show romantic feelings that the gay character feels, only the fact that they lust for dick. Only recent exception was Haruta from HaruChika and we barely saw anything regarding his sexuality apart from "I like the teacher" at the beginning.
TL;DR YOI is refreshing whether you look at it on the sports or romance side.

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/a/ is so unbelievably bitter that this is a good show that people like

>>151021410
>They want to live it ambiguous. It's basic storytelling.
Yeah, they want to leave it ambiguous to bait fujos into thinking that Viktor and Yuri ever had a chance of actually ending up together.

"Basic storytelling" would also necessitate that Viktor and Yuri have clear motivations going into the GPF so that they actually have some stakes. Yuri winning or losing would be much more meaningful if we clearly knew that Viktor ACTUALLY wanted to get married or not.

>>151021410
Of course they want to keep it ambiguous, that's the entire point of this conversation. Why are YOI fans so retarded?

>>151020533
The important thing isn't so much the references themselves, they don't necessarily affect the quality of the show, it's just the most obvious evidence that the creators love what they're writing about. To most of the audience, that is very clearly reflected in the characterization and relationship dynamics, but that's a harder case to argue to people who think the fact that it's gay or fujo means it can't be good. It's just a really heart warming series with a lot of love poured into it, as cheesy as it sounds that's why people are so obsessed.

>>151021485
It's retarded and pathetic. It's one show, they could literally just ignore it and the threads.

I'm not gay or fujo, I just really appreciate how realistic Yuuri and Viktor and their relationship are. The rest of the characters feel shallow, but they're side characters so of course that's going to happen, and the main two are more than complex enough to make up for it.

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>>151021019
>Exclamation marks at the end
Which of the faggot OP's did that

>>151021467
No, as a sports anime it is not refreshing. It's actually very unlike sports anime in general, and not in the good sense.
>When's the last time there was a sports anime where the MC develops a romantic relationship with another character without pussying out by the end?
Never because this is exactly the type of thing you don't want in a sports anime.

>>151021485
I'm bitter that it's a bad show that I wanted to like

>>151021406
I still think that puts it in the doubtful camp, though, since it's not like the LN could have copied YoI and it's not like this kind of plot is common.

I'm guessing Free!-style bait at most.

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>LGBT love story

Yuri on Ice really feels like a show made for girls/gays, and not just because of the gay shit. There's something about the way it's directed and the general atmosphere.

>>151021557
Not possible. Their shitty waifu shows have to be better in every way and YoI is literally Satan for selling well and having lots of viewers.
They literally just ignore any evidence that people enjoy the show or that more effort and love was put into it than average because they don't like it. None of the facts will change their minds. But it doesn't matter, because it A) pays off for us in the form of a fun and engaging show and B) the show is winning in terms of money and ratings anyway.

>>151021558
>I just really appreciate how realistic Yuuri and Viktor and their relationship are.
It's a fun relationship but it's not realistic at all because we have no idea of what their relationship actually is since the writers refuse to tell us.

If they're just coach and student, then all the gay shit is weird.
If they're just best bros, then again all the gay shit is weird.
If they're a gay couple, then why don't they do more gay shit together (we've only seen them potentially kiss ONCE and even then it was censored) or talk about their relationship more?

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I want to do indecent things to the fairy

>>151014906
just because it's some gay shit that only faggots and fujos watch doesn't make it AOTY

>>151021632
They made significant departures from the Hibike LNs, they could end up trying to follow in YOI's footsteps with the archery show if it makes enough waves. I doubt it though. Kyoani always plays safe.

The whole set up reminds me of some ancient classic shoujo manga. It's fun to watch though.

>>151021694
Okay? Is there something wrong with that?>>151021724
Oh, right, of course, they're subhuman.

>>151021467
>Only recent exception was Haruta from HaruChika and we barely saw anything regarding his sexuality apart from "I like the teacher" at the beginning.
In some ways I think stories like this can be even more refreshing because then the story isn't rooting the character's being gay in the relationship itself. Too bad the show was shit.

>>151021625
I'm really bitter about this too. I was so excited for it.
At least I can still download the OST and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

>>151021413
You mean the secrets that Yuri and Ice is supposedly openly talking about in their episodes?

>>151021467
>without pussying out by the end?
Did you not watch the ending of episode 11?

>>151021713
Holy shit are you overreacting. Fujos are hilarious

>>151021764
>Yuri and Ice
Yuri on ice*

>>151021764
Good god you're retarded. You know the skaters in YoI are fictional, right? And it doesn't matter if their secrets get exposed?

>>151021754
I was just making a point that I felt like stating, not really saying anything about there being anything wrong with it. I personally don't find it appealing though.

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>>151021810
>But it doesn't matter, because it A) pays off for us in the form of a fun and engaging show and B) the show is winning in terms of money and ratings anyway.

>>151021717
You have no idea how fucking gay male figure skating is, do you? Literally over half of the men are sucking each other or their coach's dicks behind the scenes. If there is one anime where going all out with the homo is realistic, it's this one.

>>151021618
>It's actually very unlike sports anime in general, and not in the good sense.
Yeah, as if the same type of super dramatic/edgy shounen-style high school rivalries doesn't get stale as fuck. But I guess that's just me. If it's not your thing, don't watch it.

>>151021825
If the only thing a skater can say about this show is some vague statement that can be applied to any other show then it means absolutely nothing.

>Wow, who told Production IG of all the secrets of volleyball teams?

That's basically all he is saying. His words have pretty much no substance, it's just vague shit.

>>151021713
Nobody gives a shit about that. You're on /a/, if people don't like a show and think it's bad you'll hear it. You're not a victim of persecution, this is literally my taste > your taste.

>>151017667
The whole trap thing has rotted their brains, it's Yuri(male) on Ice.

>>151021863
So why are you this upset?

>>151021618
Sports anime is always improved by mixing genres, including romance, what the fuck are you talking about? Have you never read an Adachi manga?

Pure sports anime always turn into garbage as a result of non stop, repetitive matches. Mixing it up with proper character drama is ideal.

>>151021868
I see you don't watch sports anime at all. Thanks for letting me know.

>>151021694
>There's something about the way it's directed and the general atmosphere.
The sounds they use for the transitions really strike me as perfectly encapsulating this. Though I do think there are quite a few straight guys enjoying this show.

>>151021865
Then why not just outright say Yuri and Viktor are gay?

>>151021505
I'm not a YOI fan.
But people are asking for meta comments from the staff while the show is still airing and they get angry because said staff don't want to give them an answer. This is so retarded.

>>151021713
>>151021754
Getting so triggered over nothing.

Dropped after episode 3. The characters seem fun and hilarious. Shame that the plot is a sport tourney shit. It's a huge turnoff for me no matter what.

>>151021868
Just because it's dissimilar to those kinds of shows doesn't automatically make it good. It needs to stand in its own merit.

>>151021914
I actually don't like Adachi at all and I'm glad others didn't follow him.

>>151021879
Let me get this straight. You're saying you'd only accept this if he did something like publicly out a competitor, or reveal some other scandal or indiscretion that could potentially end someone's career? Because that's one of the shittiest things someone could do and I'm glad he didn't. I guess I lose this argument.

>>151021879
But no pro volleyball player ever said that because that isn't the fucking case. On the other hand, it is the case for YOI. Why the fuck would he say it if it wasn't true, he's significantly more famous than the series itself.

I'm being baited aren't I, is it even possible to be this dense?

>>151021684
The no-homod finale will be like a slap in their faces.

>>151022025
>You're saying you'd only accept this if he did something like publicly out a competitor, or reveal some other scandal or indiscretion that could potentially end someone's career?
Why do you think this is the only type of secret in figure skating

>>151014906
It's only celebrated by loud fujoshi/ tumblrites who stray too far away from home.

The show is decent but it isn't at all well written. Just your average comfy fujoshit show that may actually go all the way for once. Maybe.

>>151022128
>hasn't watched it
I'm happy for other examples of secrets you shouldn't share that have featured in the show

>>151021865
You're just proving him right, there's none of that in YoI. The most we've got is a """kiss""" and Victor joking about being engaged.

>>151022139
I hope it does go all the way so maybe there will be more actually good shows that have the balls to go full homo

>>151021089
Another part of this is age. Because its not under shounen delusions, it doesn't need to have a high school aged wish fufillment protagonist with a special gift. Shows based on shounen manga have shounen tropes that do nothing to give favor to its fujo audience- YoI can just cut these out because it knows who it's for.

>>151022188
>none of that
Not him but none of what? Literally sucking each others' dicks? This isn't that kind of show anon

kek, you can really tell in these threads who hasn't actually watched the show

>>151022188
You can't say he was joking because there's no evidence, and everyone took him seriously. That's what he said in text, period. Plus, there's way more than that they've done.

>>151022257
None of a romantic relationship actually being portrayed

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>>151022267
>That's what he said in text, period.
So I guess Yuri's words don't matter then right? You know, the parts where he said it was a good luck charm?

>>151021618
>not in the good sense
Not in the good sense for you, you mean. Sports anime based on shounen manga are going to have a hard time competeting against anime like YoI for the favor of the sports anime audience.

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>>151022286

>>151022267
There are so many people who are perfectly happy to accept that it's the spawn of the devil without actually bothering to watch it themselves.

>>151022305
B-b-but Yuri is Japanese and he can't express his feelings! I'm totally not stereotyping here, and even though Kubo said that YoI universe has no prejudice, it doesn't apply to my headcanon!

>>151022267
You must be honestly autistic if you think the tone of the engagement scene encourages the audience to interpret it as sincere

>>151022305
Did you not pay attention to anything about Yuuri? He bought a wedding ring. It says that on the receipt. He calls it a "good luck charm" because he thinks he can help him in the competition, but it's also supposed to be about their bond. He took him to a church and put them on with Victor, blushing and trembling. He knows what it is, and he wants Victor, but he's scared, and his anxiety makes him overrationalize.

>>151021618
Sports anime are changing to meet the demands of their new audience.

>>151021717
>It's a fun relationship but it's not realistic at all because we have no idea of what their relationship actually is since the writers refuse to tell us.
Are we watching the same series? It's literally
>Victor is Yuuri's coach
>Victor has romantic feelings for Yuuri
>Yuuri has some too but feels that Victor's respect towards him is more that of a fellow athlete/coach much more so than that of a lover, and so Yuuri has a blurred view of their relationship
That's why they showed Yuuri use the rings for token of a lucky skating charm instead of love charms. He thinks that Victor sees him as his skating student more than as a love partner so Yuuri feels compelled to reciprocate more as a skating peer than a potential love partner. He feels confused so he wants Victor to coach him until he retires.
That's why in the latest episode when he saw Victor enthralled by other skaters he felt defeated because he felt that he totally let Victor down as his student.

>>151022371
I have watched the show and I don't think it's the spawn of the devil, stop being so fucking defensive

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>>151022383
Yeah sorry I think they took those rings pretty seriously, anon.

>>151022469
>kissing your good luck charm for good luck
Yep, they seem to take their GOOD LUCK CHARMS seriously.

>>151022363
A show like Yuri that barely feels like a sport anime isn't going to be competing with the other actual sports anime. It'll take the fujo but that's it, it's not going to take the rest of the demographic.
It's not in the good sense for anybody that likes today's sports anime, ie most sports anime fans.

>>151022412
They don't care. They don't watch the show, they don't come in the threads. They don't follow its development. They're not discussing it because they want to know anything about it. They've already made up their minds, even when we present them with obvious shit like the fact Yuuri literally bought gold wedding bands for over 700 Euro.

>>151022250
>>151022363
I do think that sports anime can take a few lessons from YoI, even if the reason it's abandoning the tropes is due to shift of audience. Surely there's room for shows that break the mold even without the gay subplot.

>>151022502
>They don't watch the show, they don't come in the threads.
How can you say this when the poster the other person replied to had a screenshot from the show?

Fuck off back to your general.

>>151022461
Then I wasn't talking about you, was I?

>>151018769
>People will never give it credit for what it does well because they're so triggered by homos and things girls like.
I agree with this desu

>>151022469
You're being played like fiddle. I can't wait to see the kind of mental gymnastics you'll come up with when the show ends and nothing actually happens.

>>151022502
>even when we present them with obvious shit like the fact Yuuri literally bought gold wedding bands for over 700 Euro.
Even though Yuri said it was a good luck charm.

>>151022469
They took the rings seriously as good luck charms and objects of sentimentality that represent their bond, but the actual "engagement" is still vague bait.

>>151022501
What other demographic? Sports anime without the fujo demographic can't sell and haven't been able to for years. Not when they have female casts or male casts. You're pretty delusional if you think a sports anime can be financially successful without fujo support. Manga, however, is a different story. It'll be interesting to see how the two interact.

>>151022549
The only thing it did well was the music and I salute them for that. I think pretty much everybody agrees on that.

>>151017951
>>151020633
It's a hit because it's miles better than what fujoshi gets on average.

>>151022502
These threads are always pointless and serve as nothing more than a circlejerk for assblasted autists, really.

>>151022546
You literally quoted me.

>>151014906
is this a yaoi?

>>151022583
A popular sports manga will eventually get an anime.
Besides it's not like fujos are going to stop liking it. Their main reason for being attracted to it has always been the large cast of guys. One sports anime with fags isn't going to change that.

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Yuri on Ice
Flip Flappers
Re:Zero
Mob Psycho 100

These are the most overrated anime of the year.

>>151022457
Wow, someone that actually watched the show and paid attention. Cool.
Meanwhile 95% of YOI fans are arguing over if they're gay or not.

>>151022515
You're forgetting who is funding these anime. If a sports anime without gay is competeting against one with gay, the latter would have to be pretty awful for the former to become favored by fujo.

>>151022559
You're still ignoring Yuuri's character. It makes sense for him to say vague shit like that out of fear, but his actions make clear he knows what it means.

>>151014906
Why is the albino grabbing his arm like that.

>>151022685
Saying something is a good luck charm isn't being vague though.

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>>151014906
Yes.
The anime is basically "IM A FAGGOT ON SKATES LOL".
Konosuba is the AOTY. Literally anyone who watched it will think so.

>>151014906
>a show about some fag on skates
>muh competition

Real thrilling.

>>151022699
You know what I mean, you faggot. They can be for good luck, and I have already said why in the thread, but there is a deeper meaning to it and he knows it.

>>151022704
I watched it but Hibike 2 is still the better show. For non-sequel shows I'd go with Rakugo before KonoSuba.

>>151022615
I was showing you webm related, then replied to someone else about something entirely different.

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>>151022695
Because

>>151022733
>but there is a deeper meaning to it and he knows it.
Not really.

Yuri going out of his way to say that they're good luck charms and nothing else can be interpreted as Yuri's way of making it clear that there is no other meaning behind the rings.

>>151014906
It isn't, it's unironically good.

>>151022659
They will keep getting adaptations, but it'll be interesting to see how that changes (specifically how popular a sports manga would need to be) is the average shounen manga sports anime adaptation starts selling less. Its all about profit margins. Haikyuu has an established franchise and its feeling the YoI burn. The point is that anime like YoI have a much higher chance of success than ones like All Out, just because YoI can focus in on the anime buying sports fans. Its a huge disadvantage.

>>151022765
I get Rakugo, but Hibike?
It's basically your average high school Anime with cute girls and instruments. Never seen that before.

>>151022664
I was wondering when this post was coming.

>every popular anime of the season is overrated
>I only watch shows that I find off mal that rate a 6.7 or lower so I can come up with some pseudo-intellectual reasoning as why it's a masterpiece

>>151022659
Its not that fujos will stop liking it, but they'll favor gayer and more character driven shows that can shed all the shounen drivel naturally.

>>151022829
>It's basically your average high school Anime with cute girls and instruments.
On a surface level maybe, but characterization, character development and how they're handling the narrative is some of the best I've seen in years. Not to mention the visuals are amazing when they try.

>>151022501
>implying sports shows can sell without fujo support

>>151022900
>characterization, character development and how they're handling the narrative is some of the best I've seen in years.
Oh yeah, they really did a great job of making me care about drama between 2 characters we'd never seen before and who promptly fucked off after their arc was over. Great storytelling there.

>>151022775
You didn't read what I said at all about Yuuri. He wouldn't drag him out to a fucking church with a choir in the background, blush, and shake when giving the ring.

Throughout the show, Yuuri's anxieties, including about love, are at the forefront. One of the biggest issues of the show is that he's shy and it's hard for him to see Victor's interest in him as real since he still sees himself as a loser.

At the end of ep 9, he already says to Victor what was akin to a traditional Japanese proposal and Victor picks up on that. That was clear.

>>151022829
Are you people still pretending Hibike is a moe anime?

>>151022900
Visuals are amazing, yes, but it's the exact same concept as videogames. It doesn't matter for shit compared to the actual gameplay and story. No fucking story worth even mentioning either, rendering your characterization and character development completely useless.

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>>151022953
Fuck you faggot, I know what you're talking about.

>>151022994
Not a moe anime.
Just ANOTHER high school anime.
With instruments.
Figure the rest out yourself.

>>151022980
>He wouldn't drag him out to a fucking church with a choir in the background, blush, and shake when giving the ring.
It's called fujobaiting

>>151023024
/v/ please

Story in anime = story in games
Animation in anime = gameplay in games

>>151022770
No, you weren't. I'm not the guy you were agreeing with.

>>151022838
But Hibike is an 8.25 on MAL, anon.

>>151023104
>We can disregard part of the work because of genre conventions but not other parts.
Okay man.

>>151023024
>No fucking story worth even mentioning either, rendering your characterization and character development completely useless

People like this will then turn around and try to defend YOI as a masterpiece of writing. Hilarious.

>>151023137
So you were the person who said they weren't portraying a romantic relationship? Then yes, the webm of them slipping wedding bands onto each other's fingers was for you. Surely you already got that.

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>>151023123
hibike season 2's animation has been pretty dreadful

>>151023123
I don't see how animation = gameplay, they're two very different things.

>>151022953
Later episodes made more than make up for that arc. Hell some side characters in Hibike have more depth than most main characters this season.

>>151023163
What 'other parts' are you talking about, because everything in the show is the same vague shit.

>>151023188
I'm the guy who posted this.
>>151022704

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>>151023230
It's funny how you keep posting the same 2 webms.

>>151023071
Yes and Ping Pong is just another sports anime, LOGH is just another space anime, Evangelion is just another mecha anime. Really substantial statement there.

>>151023071
nah, you don't get it, man. some girls have facades and stuff, the characterization is unprecedented in anime

>>151023240
Yeah, animation = graphics and entertainment value = gameplay would make much more sense IMO.

>>151023293
>cinegrids
Back to /tv/ you retard

>>151022953
The climax to that arc was very emotionally powerful.

>>151023163
It's all up to interpretation until we actually get some closure in the finale. But I'm taking Yuri at his word. All I saw was Yuri talking about a good luck charm that was just presented with homoerotic overtones.

>>151023294
Ping Pong isn't just another sports anime, it's the most pretentious, ugly sports anime of all-time. LOGH isn't just another space anime, it's the most boring, gay and pretentious space anime of all-time. Evangelion isn't just another mecha anime, it's the most pretentious mecha anime of all-time.

>>151023240
The medium "Animation" is defined by the concept of animation.
The medium "Videogames" is defined by the concept of gameplay.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.

>>151023308
Maybe if you're a brazilian monkey or were a band geek in high school. Nobody else gave a shit since no one cares about those irrelevant characters.

>>151023247
We can disregard the fact that the rings are 700euros and that they were given in front of a church with wedding bells playing the background. We can also disregard Victor calling them engagment rings. We can't, however, disregard that Yuuri called them good luck charms. At least they can explain "good luck charms" away by Yuuri being an autistic nip, you have no narrative explaination. Not for that, not for Victor saying that Yuuri gave him love, not for Yuuri saying that he was victor taught him eros, and not for any of the skating monologues at all. You have no narrative explaination whatsoever.

>>151023294
Each one of those genres can have very different stories. High school animes basically revolve around the exact same thing we've all seen so many times, unless it's just a scenario in an anime with a bigger, more broad genre that isn't "slice of life" or "romance".

>>151023367
Ep 10 literally establishes Yuuri as an unreliable narrator because his anxiety tends to distort his entire worldview. The show spells it out for you that his word is not to be 100% trusted. Look at his actions.

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>>151018832

The production values of YoI are ridiculous high and you really need to be ignorant about animation to not notice it. there are like 2980238402 motions in every second of skating sequences.

Besides they are redrawing everything as they go. This is a skating program in episode 6 and the same skating program in episode 11, and they are still gonna go back and redraw for the BDs.

>>151023498
>The production values of YoI are ridiculous high and you really need to be ignorant about animation to not notice it. there are like 2980238402 motions in every second of skating sequences.
They aren't high, that's why they look like shit.
And it's not like they're redrawing everything for each episode anyway. Each person's routine is just recycled for the next episode.

>>151023398
>I only care about the main characters in any given story
I haven't seen this level of pleb since the days when ancient Roman men pretended to be you and had buttsecks with each other.

>>151023390
But they're not nearly the exact same thing. Gameplay is interactive, whereas Animation belongs to the visuals. Graphics.

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>>151023304
I go where I please.

>>151014906
Made by faggots for faggots, on ice

>>151023550
I care about side characters I have a reason to care about. Mizori and Nizomi were nobodies who were immediately thrust into a dramatic storyline with no buildup before. That's terrible storytelling.

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>>151023498
>People actually think Yaoi on Ice has good animation.

>>151023568
Perhaps you can head over to r/cinegrid, seems like you'd fit in over there.

>>151014906
It's probably the most overrated of all time.

>>151023602
YoI has good animation. It also has bad animation. Its just very inconsistent.

>>151023612
You heard it here first, folks

>>151023498
Kyoani also has a lot of frames in their competition scenes and they make them look impeccable. That's high production values, not this.

>>151023498
This is just sad.

>>151023584
>That's terrible storytelling.
More like your inability to empathize, which is why you're shitposting on an Indonesian nickelodeon board instead of having fun with real friends.

>>151023712
There's no reason to empathize with characters you know nothing about.

>>151023498
You can try to defend the story, but everyone knows the animation is probably the worst aspect of YoI even with Mappa's 'effort' and budget., anon. Don't waste your time.

>>151023563
The point is they are on the same level of importance to their respective medium. The fact that you can't compare them is why. You won't find the equivalent of animation or gameplay in other mediums.

>>151023712
What's worse, Hibikefags or YOIfags?

I'm having a hard time deciding.

>>151021467
>implying YoI is a sports anime

It's a BL show show pretending to be a sports anime. The sooner you tumblrinas realize that the easier it will be for you. Also fuck out of here with that unique bullshit when we already seen this shit in Samurai Flamenco.

>>151023650
I wouldn't call it good, aside from the first episode and the OP. They recycle and re-use elements a lot, so they have a chance to polish previous performances. It's OK considering they draw full body animation, which is not exactly common in TV anime.

>>151023731
>I can't empathize with fellow humans who just happen to be strangers
I'm now pretty sure you're a sociopath.

>>151023808
Anime characters aren't fellow humans you mongoloid.

Back to your yurifag containment thread now.

>>151023804
You have extremely high standards for original anime not by a major studio.

>>151023802
I wish SamFlam did as well as this show.

>>151023838
It doesn't matter if they're not a major studio though. We're talking objective quality, and Yuri on Ice has subpar animation.

>>151023833
They're representations of fellow humans, and as such non-sociopathic humans should naturally be able to empathize with them as if they are actually humans.

>>151023838
That doesn't change the fact that the animation is objectively decent at best.

>>151023865
Nah, they're shitty uninteresting characters. Nobody gives a fuck about them and that's why Hibike threads are always on life support. Now fuck off.

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>>151023833
>Hibike
>Yuri

>>151023776
People who think their show is the pinnacle of everything are equally terrible.

>>151023856
Your definition of subpar is skewed by the anime you watch, that much is obvious. Try stepping outside of the top 5 most popular anime of the season.

>>151023922
Yuri on Ice would have shit animation in any season in any year. Other shows airing doesn't change the amount of QUALITY that's in the show. Not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp.

>>151023872
Its decent compared to the lower half of the season, and impressive for the circumstances it was made under. (They didnt even have character designs done for ep 9 by late august because of the shoestring budget.)

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>>151023900
>Nobody gives a fuck about them
I do, therefore your statement is objectively incorrect. You were literally and factually wrong.

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>>151023711
>>151023676
>>151023602

>I don't actually watch the show

YoI has animated the skating sequences 100% except some seconds to show the character faces which change every episode. They use zero pannings, no static zooms, etc. It's all motion. And when the skaters change their jumps, fall or flub they need to completely redo the scene.

I haven't seen Kyoani actually pull this. A lot of their "action" is close up to eyes with looped hair and filters. And MAPPA is actually going back and remaking all wonky frames for later episodes and DVD/BD releases.

>>151023957
You don't watch much anime. Its definately not top tier like the first episode, but you haven't seen what bottom tier is.

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>>151023650
Yeah, I think it's a real mixed bag. Hopefully they fix it with cash flowing in for the BDs.

>>151024042
>filters
>autists are still complaining about KyoAni's skillful and artistic use of video editing software

>>151024042
>YoI has animated the skating sequences 100%
They've recycled Yuri's routines for each episode though.

>>151024042
Now post the rest of yurio's scenes where his entire body is elongated and off model

>>151024077
Yurio has only done thst routine once.

>>151024042
That's not the point. The point is that it does not look like something that has high production values.
Having high production values means you can pull all that while making it look constantly good.

>>151024077

Because that's how skating works. Skaters use the same two programs for one or two seasons because they take time to get used to and because a coreography and an outfit came go each up to $10000 USD, and that doesn't include coaching. Yuuri is lucky to have a free coach and coreography this season.

>>151023157
Anon. Faggots will literally defend mal ratings.

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>>151024042
>They use zero pannings, no static zooms
I guess you mean for the skating scenes, right? Because the normal animation outside of that is pretty much all static. Either way you're also wrong. There's panning and zooms in this webm.

>>151023957
I'm watching 1 other shows this season. Besides Gakuen Handsome, Yuri is the one with the worst animation. It's not good by any means.

>>151024151
Fuck I meant 15 not 1.

>>151024124
They could've used different shots.

>>151024130
The point was his post was severely misrepresenting the post he was replying to, probably because not enough people read filenames.

>>151024042
>And MAPPA is actually going back and remaking all wonky frames for later episodes and DVD/BD releases.
Literally every studio and every anime ever does this. Is this your first anime by chance?

>>151023776
YoI because people are defending the animation even though it's common knowledge of the show being a doomed production, have harrassed real life skaters and edited their wikipedia profiles, directly complained to the writer that she should tweet in English. There's probably a lot more I don't know about.

>>151014906
no that would be konosuba

>>151024151
Which ones have attempted anything as ambitious as a skating routine? Let alone 16+ differently choreographed routines?

its a good anime. its got something that most animes do not and its much more sincere then some romances. also you want all the players to win when you hear there storys.

>>151024256
Ambition means nothing when your product looks like shit.

>>151022695
They are good friends.

>>151024202
As someone whose a fan of some unpopular shows, I wish that was true.

>>151024256
Other shows not having heavy animation doesn't suddenly make Yuri's not bad.

>>151024286
Agree to disagree then. And there are definately skating sequences that do not look like shit.

>>151024286
don't you know passion means everything? it's why Redline is the best anime ever

>>151024327
There are bits and pieces of the routines that don't look like shit but I'd say that about 80% of the routines look like a mess.

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>>151021919
>Though I do think there are quite a few straight guys enjoying this show.
I'm straight although I like traps and I really like it, it's a well directed show that doesn't go overboard on the drama like most other sports related anime do, the drama that is there is nice and never gets into cringe territory. I think jj choking last episode is a great example of what makes it good, instead of a bunch of slow shots and some contrived inner monologue that takes up the majority of the episode the action kept flowing and we get a quick scene to tie his character together and then it was on to the next thing without having to show the rest of the cast slowly react just to stretch shit out.

Yuri On Ice's looks like and is animated like shit. For a gay sports anime that does not look like and is not animated like shit, see: Free!

>>151024325
It means its difficult to compare them. What is the industry standard for good skating animation?

>>151024358
Swimming is a lot easier to animate than skating. (Free also had a much bigger budget)

>>151024358
free is also complete shit outside of the animation

>>151024042
You know you can't just keep accusing people of not watching the show every time they disagree with you

>>151024362
No, it isn't difficult. Animation either looks good or it doesn't. It either looks detailed or it doesn't. It either looks fluid or it doesn't. Etc. Yuri's might be ambitious but visually it simply does not look good.

>>151024403
Kyoani has below average budget. Try harder. Ambition alone doesn't equate to good animation

>>151024353
You think Otabeks routine was a mess?

>>151024231
>directly complained to the writer that she should tweet in English.
That didn't happen, some anon totally mistranslated her tweet about Google translate mangling her tweets. She is over the moon about YOI's international popularity, and rightfully so.

Also, pretty sure the Wikipedia article was just a shop.

>>151024405
YOI is complete shit including the animation.
>>151024403
KyoAni's budgets are below-average:
https://twitter.com/erkin_kawabata/status/589384655796731904
>Budget for KyoAni shows is nothing special, in fact is below average.

>>151024358
I'll take good story over good animation.
It's weird, /a/ seems like the only place where the equivalent of big-budget blockbuster movies are lauded over independent successes.

>kyoanifags now shitting up yuri on ice threads

>>151024445
otabek's was ok, it was the least offensive routine i guess.

>>151024436
We obviously see things differently. I appreciate ambition in anime, espeically with such a small studio doing the heavy lifting. A1 pictures is fluid though.

>>151024453
Just look at her twitter and you'll see people complaining that she doesn't tweet in English.

>>151024465
They also have a much larger staff and number of animators than MAPPA.

Even the /yoi/ threads make fun of the animation in them, it's generally agreed upon that YoI has terrible animation. The charm of the anime isn't the animation, it's the characters and their interactions.

>>151024524
Circumstances don't matter to these people, only product. And thats fine for them.

>>151024475
>YOI
>Good story

I'd be able to forgive the terrible animation if this was true

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>>151024475
>I'll take good story over good animation.
It's a good thing Hibike has both.

>>151024524
Possibly. But the main reason is that KyoAni has simply better performing and talented staff than most studios.

>>151022501
It barely feels like a sports anime because the ones that are so popular are all GROUP SPORTS oriented (basketball, volleyball, rugby, soccer, group competition swimming, biking) whereas single figure ice skating (not pair skating) isn't. So for example in Kuroko no Basuke, Haikyuu, All Out, DAYS, Free!, and Yowamushi Pedal, there's always the cast of characters with the high schooler MC, fellow high schoolers/group members, the coach, and the manager. They're all working together so there's the whole teamwork and power of friendship that comes into play especially when it comes to competitions (there's always the fucking idea where you have to all learn how to collaborate and sync well among all the members (aka BECOME FRIENDS WITH EVERYONE) to be a super strong team).
Meanwhile in YOI the characters are all competing against each other and the character dynamics are either between coach/coaches-student and MC skater VS the other skaters. Even though Yuuri and the skaters are friendly towards each other, there's barely any time to all have them hanging together like in every single other sports show, because the setting doesn't allow for that. Only episode 10 we saw the skaters hang out together in Barcelona, and that's it. Also the characters are adults, they aren't high schoolers like 95% of the time, so they can't just be around each other all the time in a school for example. The characters are also pro-level skaters, not high school newbies, so again, the setting just doesn't allow for it. If you think that "feeling like a sports anime" literally only comprises of "high school setting, high school group sports team, MC is a novice at first but somehow their sports team wins by the end of the sports tournament with the power of friendship" you are seriously retarded. The whole reason why they use group sports is because it's so easy to set up characters and relationships from the setting. Other sports exist outside of that you know.

>>151014906
Yuri on Ice is very average compared to other anime. Compared to fujo anime it's top 3.

>>151024475
This doesn't even make sense. Yuri on Ice is the biggest blockbuster of the season

>>151024505
No, this isn't about seeing things differently. Stop trying to make everything go your way. Th animation is either good or it isn't. You can like your show, you can like the ambition, but you can't lie and try to push this idea when it clearly isn't what you claim it to be.

>>151024557
>hibike
>good story

Nope

>>151024549
Why on earth would I care about the studio's circumstances? It's their fucking job to deliver a project, and if it's shit, then it's shit.

>>151024524
Why would that matter? Mappa outsources to hell and back so they have much more animators at their disposal than KyoAni's.

Yuri on Ice alone has over 3 dozens of companies working on it.

>>151024572
Nigga I already told you I wasn't going to read any of your autistic walls of text. tl;dr.

Yuri on Ice is the anime of the year, will win best anime at anime fest and will forever be remembered in the industry while FlipFlappers will just be forgotten together with Hibiki like the average shits they are.

>>151024606
I disagree.

>>151024475
>independent anime
huh

Shitty Russian propaganda.

>>151024571
Yeah, maybe so. They had no idea in advance they would have needed a large and well-established studio to pull off something they didn't expect to be a success.

>>151024640
Because the most popular shit is always the best, huh
Really made me think

>>151024640
It will change the sports anime genre and likely be one of the most (if not the most) successful sports anime of all time.

>>151024697
Stay salty

Sports anime don't need good animation or intense competition to be successful. Fujos don't give a shit.

>>151024586
No, it's a huge underdog success from a no-name studio that nobody expected to do well. Blockbusters start out by getting established everything and splashing big budget, knowing that the prestige involved will get everyone hyped.
YoI pretty much grew by word of mouth, more so than anyone avidly and religiously following what Kubo or MAPPA put out.

>>151024630
TL;DR YOI doesn't feel like your typical sports anime because it isn't group sports oriented and the characters are already pro-level skaters.

>>151024704
It'll just further the propaganda that all sports anime need to be a sausage fest to succeed financially.

>>151024747
I think you're the one who's salty that there are people who can look at your show objectively without being blinded by emotion, anon

>>151014906
having Re:Zero, the answer is easily no.
But YOI is actually good and it has the success it deserves.

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>>151024662
>Russian propaganda
>gay story

>>151024799
Which they do, because fujos actually spend money.

>>151024799
They do though. Fujos arent buying sports anime with women and no one else is buying sports anime. Even GuP sold like shit at first.

>>151024799
>implying a sports anime can be successful without fujo support

>>151020937
It has romcom tropes and even a couple of shoujo tropes.

>>151024826
>reddit:zero

>>151024826
>out of all 182 2016 anime titles, the self-insert "deconstruction of isekai" light novel adaptation gets AOTY
Really makes you think how uninspired the anime industry is.

>>151024985
I think the fact that it drops a lot of the shounen tropes typical of the sports genre is what makes it so fresh to the fujo sports audience.

>>151025257
I think I'm the only one, but I'll fully admit I would love for it to drag things out more. The tension of sports anime always has me on the edge of the seat and lord knows this show could have done with an extra 12 episodes.

>>151024141
fuck, that's some ugly animation

>>151014906
I enjoy it but it's pretty overrated. Landwhales only think it's a masterpiece because it made their OTP canon and that's literally all they care about.

It's only good in that it's pretty unique for a sports anime and nice to see ice skating in anime, but it was tailor made to attract the rabid fujo's and that is why it became overrated as fuck. The landwhales invaded /a/ from twitter and tumblr, even some here with us in this thread as you can tell.

>>151025316
It doesn't even feel like a sport anime to me. Everything goes way too fast. I find myself not caring about the ice-skating part anymore.

>>151025316
Its less the tension building and more that it drops a lot of shounen wish fufillment shit because fujos could literally care less.

>>151025440
I find that the main relationship progresses too fast as well, so I can't understand how everyone is shitting their pants over it even if they don't care about the skating.

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Not really, It's pretty enjoyable but it's sad that MAPPA let themselves down with QUALITY and giving Yuri two of the most boring dances out of all the characters.

I've really enjoyed it even with all the gay shit going on, Yuri isn't even a factor in enjoyment because he's surrounded by superior characters.

>>151025324
They fix it in ep 7, at least.

>>151019567
They shouldn't get credit for doing research since that is the very least they could do if they want to respect the sport.

YOI is not even the only sports anime this season that puts in that sort of effort. I know for a fact Haikyuu's author played volleyball himself and is passionate about the sport and All Out is supposedly made to raise interest in rugby. So YOI should not get bonus points for research, it's a given.

>>151025627
I agree with this.
It's like it really is a love story but the ice-skating takes so much screen-time that the romance isn't developed enough.

I don't know how to feel about this show, it definitely has qualities but the overall result is meh.